companions-chat

[maiden hare]

Don’t need stars for campaign

[weak blaze]

Crazy

Youre lower reso than me

Noob

[maiden hare]

Well I copied the teams 1/2 times but didn’t adjust anything, that’s what i meant with it

[weak blaze]

Yh I thought so

[maiden hare]

I have a lot of blue chests

[weak blaze]

Yh me too

[maiden hare]

Noob

[pine sable]

gl with that im a whole chapter ahead of u with 6 levels lower

transcending her is bad

and this guy is supposed to be our lord and savior

[weak blaze]

He isn’t

I personally take advice from eternal star

[sour crag]

Can you test Saitama too please? 🥺✨

[last glacier]

Walker red = reroll

[pine sable]

[tall storm]

No coments

[last glacier]

sorry bro, ur Walker is weak

[hollow flume]

👀 ? like a lot? the difference between A5 and T1? or were you talking about the difference between A1, A3, and A5?

[pine sable]

its ass ong
im not pulling that fucker hes only mythic cos i bought an ascension bundle

[civic rampart]

That’s enough pushing for me

My brain hurt now

[last glacier]

he says that Tatsu killed Ortus with one ult

insane damage

[maiden hare]

Only did it because I was 1 hero short from t2

[lusty acorn]

That’s good to know she only needs ascended

[weak blaze]

She needs as much as possible like any other dps

A1-5 all increase her damage output

[lusty acorn]

i agree, i just saw the info as optimal investment :P, these spirits be limited

[pine sable]

limited?

[hollow river]

When should I take my half year long break from the game

[worldly quiver]

In the afterlife

[hollow river]

[pine sable]

what kiari said

[civic rampart]

You go girl

[hollow river]

Cruel

[civic rampart]

[pine sable]

[worldly quiver]

[civic rampart]

LETS GOOO

[pine sable]

i got mauler agility boots for my kren yesterday from stargazing

[civic rampart]

Pookster won’t get up from bed

[pine sable]

and agility gb boots like the 4th pair from campaign

cam-pai(g)n

[civic rampart]

So I guess I’ll grind Warframe alone

[pine sable]

[civic rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/hmpf-anime-annoyed-grr-ugh-gif-9035032

[pine sable]

sometimes u gotta do what u gotta do

[weak blaze]

Grind him

Till he wakes up

[civic rampart]

👀

[weak blaze]

Or what you guys do

[civic rampart]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[weak blaze]

If a man would do that to a woman that’ll be harassment

But ig man on man is cute?

[pine sable]

i think u meant “ground” him right? RIGHT?

[weak blaze]

Use your advantages goober

[civic rampart]

Considering I’m literally half his size

[weak blaze]

Sure buddy

[pine sable]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-switch-2-nintendo-mario-kart-gif-17057339975222599157

[weak blaze]

Yh

[civic rampart]

[pine sable]

[hollow river]

[hollow flume]

[timid briar]

[weak blaze]

@vale abyss could we maybe also get a hero profile of OPM in companions?

[late spear]

Hey guys I just start, there is a canal with some guides ?
Happy new years to all and have a nice weekend too

[hollow flume]

#companions-questions message

look for this

[hollow river]

W Melchior

[hollow flume]

I'm trying to sleep

[late spear]

Thanks 🙏🏼

[hollow river]

Oh goodnight then

[hollow flume]

[hollow river]

Goated team?

[summer iron]

Really puts things in perspective so thought I'd share.

AFK Companions Wallet Edition (About 1 year into the game)
12 dimensionals (in a year? wtf)
Hypo 9 - 1A
Celest 10 - 1A
LB 17 - 0A
Mauler 16 - 1A
Wilder 14 - 1A
GB 15 - 0A
Beasts (absolute trash ($$$$) addition to the game)
3-4 normal beasts that "actually get used"
2 awakened beasts that are pretty much locked behind $$$$$$ (These can carry a team vs any non paying player, EASILY)

[civic rampart]

Yeah we got a lot of dims last year

[woeful eagle]

due for a wilder cant wait to pull ulmus

best tree

[civic rampart]

I’m hoping a AwGB is added soon

I’m already ready for an a5 Aw

[hollow river]

Either or and I’ll have A5 maxed

[summer iron]

I feel for any non-spender. Unless they're okay with never being remotely competitive lol

[weak blaze]

well hello

from chat to chat

[weak blaze]

wdym

i am and im the goat

[hollow river]

Look at my team cayan

[weak blaze]

insane overkill but awesome

[hollow river]

It was a solo stage

[hollow river]

No such thing as overkill

[weak blaze]

Any ideas who could replace Kren here helping out a little more?

[weak blaze]

true true

[hollow river]

Idk

[weak blaze]

@timber cipher

im pretty sure if we find a good 5th hero for this comp it can replace abrutus

which would be huge

[summer iron]

Based on Dolly's new message, I think it's that wilder ranger dude. Not 100% sure though and I've been wrong like 90% of the time lmao

[woeful eagle]

who?

[summer iron]

Maybe Eorin? idk honestly

"Once he was willing to step out of the Dark Forest, the wind brought more than just the news of others."

I googled and Oku and Lorsan came up lol we have both already

[civic rampart]

[verbal forge]

its lorsan

pretty shitty cuz even 1 copy if they dont change him he will be very meta

[summer iron]

I'm an idiot. I thought Lorsan was Respen lol.

[verbal forge]

so i think i will actualy waste some destiny for that copy

[summer iron]

Hellll to the naw. Gotta save all destiny summons for souls when the next collab comes up. Too many dimensionals now.. and with transending.. jeez

[hollow river]

@weak blaze @vapid lava help please

[hollow river]

@pine sable also

[weak blaze]

Rowan opposing thane

Daimon out place Mira there

Solise out place shalltear there

Should work in a couple autoruns 👍

[hollow river]

This is the alt

[weak blaze]

Then fuck around and find out

Place random stuff on solise Spot or just keep her there

[hollow river]

I Tatsu in instead of solise

A3 si10 btw

[woeful eagle]

how do u have trans 2 maulers but only a2 awBrutus

[hollow river]

Please point to the trans 2 mauler

Also cause no mauler luck

[summer iron]

my dumbass went full mauler with faction scrolls for the first month or so, while everyone went Wilder for Asolise. I was late to Asolise but early for abrutus lol

[hollow river]

That’s my 171 account on my 69 account I insta A5ed Awbrutus

[summer iron]

Making me look like a slacker lol. I just climbed to ch45 last night. Kinda easy kinda had to bang my head on some levels

3/24/25 was the last Abyssal Expedition? 😭 😭

[weak blaze]

You’re comparing yourself to the best of the best don’t be too hard on yourself

[summer iron]

🤣

[woeful eagle]

2 trans maulers*

i'm blind and dumb

[verbal forge]

thats a spendy account if i see one

bro no one pushes the cracker caves

im gonna miss the floor 40

[pine sable]

lmfao that made laugh

@hollow river did u beat it yet or still need help?

[hollow river]

I beat it

[pine sable]

nice what did u use?

[hollow river]

Bad rng

[pine sable]

looks fine i wouldve used rowan in front of thane like cayan said and solise out mira back middle and let rowan tank for tatsu at the top

[weak blaze]

So you ask for help to just do it yourself

You really want to fuck around and find out do you

[hollow river]

Well guys I had you both of you guys and a lovely man named iperx

[weak blaze]

Did u DM him for that

Ah

[hollow river]

No…

[hollow river]

I copied iperx as a base and then played around

[vapid lava]

Walker

[vapid lava]

Any luck with this yet?

[vapid lava]

Ah I see, congrats!

[vapid lava]

Agree with the Rowan in front and Mira back

Although that's semi rng

[verbal forge]

is pony worth at mythic ?

i got celewing ascended

[pine sable]

[vapid lava]

Better at a1 but mythic can do some work.

[vapid lava]

[pine sable]

ass
ok at a1 starts getting rly good at a2
same shit for cw

[vapid lava]

Pony at M works sometimes, only in campaign though

In my experience

[pine sable]

think so too tbh but i need si20 mortas for this stupid ahh nemora and current boss im 6th even with mythic walker

[pine sable]

never used it a mythic but my deficits are higher than urs so id apply the same to skribu

[vapid lava]

Honestly walker needs a1 and si30

[pine sable]

im 1/4 to ascend him

gotten zero fucking copies in weeks

the only copy i got is the one pookie got me

[vapid lava]

I need 1 more i think for a0

[pine sable]

i bought one ascension pack and one is from the newest bp choice chest

[vapid lava]

It's fine my safiya luck had been ass

[pine sable]

@timid briar

[vapid lava]

I may need to do that

Get him off the bp

[pine sable]

so out of 5 copies i myself pulled a single one

[vapid lava]

[runic salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-vultures-freakye-freak-freaky-gif-12289898487040468175

[pine sable]

hes been on my list for over a 1.5month

[hollow river]

Thanks

[timid briar]

You mf

I don't have time to play

[vapid lava]

Saitama about to wait at E in my box for the next 1.5 years

[hollow river]

Only pushing cause weaker guild member is pressureing me by saying there getting to chapter 43 this month so I’ll do it by today

[pine sable]

hey hey guys! new saitama comp just dropped!
take notes everyone write down how to use saitama rn!
-# i have no clue how and why tf this worked

[pine sable]

hehe boi ill overtake u

[pine sable]

lmfao me posting that video afterwards has me dying is just read this 😭

baldy my goat proving yo ass wrong

that comp was first fucking try too

at 140+ deficit

[vapid lava]

I just saw that vid lol

I'm gonna say the same thing I always say when I see a pony

Was it really Saitama working or was it just a pony carry?

[hollow river]

@vapid lava what res where you when you beat chapter 42

[vapid lava]

375 ish I believe

[hollow river]

I found out it was 379

I will beat you with 378 today

[vapid lava]

Nooo

Oh yeah my 42-56 and 42-60 were super delayed

My clears before those should be a few levels earlier

I waited for lv 380 for ch 43

Rn I am 381

[hollow river]

Reasonable

[verbal forge]

the red dot is so annoying

like chill bruv im not gonna use the souls to trans them

[pine sable]

saitama
-# i have to justify my spendings somehow and say it was worth

[verbal forge]

like the like 4 times i clicked on it

[pine sable]

doesnt go away yep

annoying af

[vapid lava]

Bc they totally wouldnt have flopped if pony didnt save him from that burst, and Kren totally didnt pull off a nice stun to save Saitama again right afterward

[civic rampart]

I’m trying to go down in history as the nicest person in the questions channel 😭

[vapid lava]

Literally

Annoying as shit

[vapid lava]

Too kind

Have you seen my latest cook up ai photo?

[civic rampart]

I need you to make a Mezoth sleeping one

[civic rampart]

I need it in place of Brutus

[vapid lava]

I can do that

5 pull was so ass to make

[civic rampart]

[vapid lava]

Zikiscornception

[civic rampart]

Zikiscornus

[vapid lava]

I got a beach one too

Couldn't get the graphics right though

[timid briar]

I never gonna play campaign again

[civic rampart]

[pine sable]

im trying the opposite

[pine sable]

nuh uh
all baldy’s work

[pine sable]

hey i passed u im at 46-48 now

[pine sable]

okay thats some gooner shit

[civic rampart]

Exactly I have to play off of you

I gotta balance it out

[pine sable]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[vapid lava]

I swear I cant with you

Check my @

[civic rampart]

They call me question man

Because I answer questions

[pine sable]

wouldnt they call u the answer man then

[civic rampart]

🍿

[runic salmon]

i swear every saitama i see has the pony in it

[pine sable]

hey u only need a5 haelus (very cheap), a5 si30 merlin (cheaper), a5 si30 saitama (cheap too), abrutus (free) and salaki (free) and the pepesus at least a1 (free after a year of pulls)

[vapid lava]

Precisely! Super easy early f2p

[weak blaze]

not in my comps

i use a lil trick

ill put you on the sauce bro

-# hopes and prayers

[pine sable]

sounds about right

[civic rampart]

Some new players tried arguing with me that Merlin isn’t good

[runic salmon]

on what? s287?

[civic rampart]

Yeah

[runic salmon]

just call them mentally deficient

[civic rampart]

I gave up

[weak blaze]

You’re the moron not them

You KNOW they’re wrong and still bother discussing with them

May be radical but if someone in here that’s not one of us I ask them who they think they are to question my advice

[civic rampart]

No I stopped

What

[weak blaze]

Good

[civic rampart]

I stopped after 2 minutes

[runic salmon]

im just gonna ragebait now

[civic rampart]

They all started ganging up on me

Like 5 of them

[weak blaze]

Who do y’all have on s287

[civic rampart]

A lot of well known people

[weak blaze]

Yh?

[civic rampart]

Grace

Let me pull up the sheet

Lumi

S2

Chill

Rose

Knight of thorns

Like 17 of us I think

Maybe more

[weak blaze]

Crazy

Let’s hope you stay active

All of you

How far were you able to ascend tatsumaki?

[civic rampart]

4 of us have a0 or higher Tatsu

A bunch more Mythic

[alpine saffron]

Is she better than one punch?

[civic rampart]

I went with Saitama just for variety

[weak blaze]

Perchance

[weak blaze]

Smart of you

Who is your duo?

Tatsu works great on a0 I even made her work on 46-16

Idk about the other way around tho

[civic rampart]

I don’t have one anymore rn

I’m switching atm

[weak blaze]

Get yourself a mate with tatsu asap

[civic rampart]

That’s what I had

Then they removed me 😭

[weak blaze]

[civic rampart]

[alpine saffron]

Okay, I feel like the new dim came too early compared to the last ones. I had 180k gems on the last one and now I had 85k for this one. Idt I can a5 both this time

[weak blaze]

Merlin isn’t a real release tho so that’s normal

I was only able to get 1000 pulls myself

[alpine saffron]

Oh lol I have him a5, I could t1 3 of the dims and get access to t2 or a5 one of the new

[weak blaze]

T1-2 isn’t worth f2p

[alpine saffron]

Only got 530 so far

[alpine saffron]

Good to know

Maybe I’ll wait to a5 the new dims till more testing

[weak blaze]

if youre able to do both just do one rn its not that deep

if you have to choose one it will prob be tatsumaki

[verbal forge]

fucking AI man cant even send some ram to waranty cuz i know i wont see them back

[weak blaze]

Whatever that means 👍

Im here for You

[verbal forge]

my guys doesnt know what RAM is

[pine sable]

memory stick is the word

[verbal forge]

not sure if you trolling or not

but thats a USB by short cut

ram - random access memory

[maiden hare]

Cayan and crown rn

https://tenor.com/view/yabbadabbadoo-car-flintstones-gif-13658534537104039484

[weak blaze]

I know what ram is

Your sentence just doesn’t make sense

[verbal forge]

it makes perfect sense

[weak blaze]

What does AI have to do with it

[verbal forge]

becouse of AI , ram now cost triple

and if i send my 64gb kit i wont see them back they will proly give me my money back

but thats kinda pointless since now the same ram kit costs 600 euro

and i bought it for less then 100

well if you find one for even 600 , you proly wont cuz scalpers got them and they sell them for 1k+

[vapid lava]

[woeful eagle]

catchin up

sike

[vapid lava]

This oku is raid bossing me

[vapid lava]

Your safiya 5 pull i can never do

[lusty plank]

@civic rampart henlo

Oh my

[civic rampart]

[lusty plank]

New Zikis emoji?!

[pine sable]

hey u lost
hope that helps

[civic rampart]

Yeah it’s my very own

[pine sable]

[civic rampart]

🍿

[lusty plank]

Dang

Goober for CS

But unironically

[pine sable]

peasant in 43

[civic rampart]

I like helping people I wish

[vapid lava]

Yeah I can't kill this damn oku in time

It's impossible

[civic rampart]

Have you tried killing him

[vapid lava]

He no die

Plus asol comp

[vapid lava]

So rmg

Rng

[civic rampart]

So rmg

🤓

[pine sable]

have u tried killing him in time?

[lusty plank]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-know-him-he's-me-star-wars-gif-6400354930568201869

[lusty plank]

[woeful eagle]

it's the best comp 📈

[vapid lava]

Uhhhhh

Someone give me a better hero

I need more dmg

[agile steeple]

oh you guys are almost at ch44, the goated background

[pine sable]

fr ch44 was pretty af

[lusty plank]

The best are almost at 50

[pine sable]

i hated leaving it

[vapid lava]

[woeful eagle]

ik im slacking

[lusty plank]

[agile steeple]

oh what

wait that's so fast

[lusty plank]

Iperx is on 49-42

[agile steeple]

???

[lusty plank]

Yessir

[pine sable]

tf is this

[agile steeple]

it took classic almost 3 years to get to ch50

[lusty plank]

At RC 438 iirc

We’re breezing past y’all

[agile steeple]

op dims be like:

[lusty plank]

Companions is rly fast

[agile steeple]

are you guys getting the new campaign too?

the illusory whatever

[vapid lava]

Someone fix my comp

[pine sable]

no?

[lusty plank]

What is that

[agile steeple]

it's like companions in classic

[lusty plank]

Wthelly

[agile steeple]

literally companions in classic

[pine sable]

crassio?

[lusty plank]

Do we get a duo?

[civic rampart]

Oh hi JD

[vapid lava]

We like to bash our heads into campaign what can we say

[civic rampart]

[agile steeple]

you get boost when pushing with friends, everyone restarts, same ascension/skill system as companions

[woeful eagle]

is that what i used?

[vapid lava]

What about him

[vapid lava]

No you use safiya 5 pull

[woeful eagle]

oh lmao

[agile steeple]

hello

[lusty plank]

Wtf this is huge? Where can I read about this

[agile steeple]

myu was streaming it last night

[lusty plank]

As u know I also play classic daily

[agile steeple]

uh it's out on test now

[lusty plank]

Almost rc 1000

[agile steeple]

huge

wait that means you can be 77-50ish as well right?

since powercap is so screwed rn

[vapid lava]

[pine sable]

use him?

[vapid lava]

Where? He just runs in and insta dies

[agile steeple]

use grez with nevanthi

classic overheal comp

[lusty plank]

@agile steeple yo I checked the reddit, this just looks like an event, not something permanent

You had me worried they were gonna completely rework campaign

[agile steeple]

I think they'll make it recurring

[civic rampart]

I love grez but he’s ass

😭

[pine sable]

mishka down, oku out put nevanthi top merlin middle and asolise bottom

[agile steeple]

oh wait you guys don't have furn skills

noooooooo

[civic rampart]

Nope

[agile steeple]

grez 9f was a carry for like 2 years lol

[verbal forge]

you have them

[vapid lava]

Extra heroes down there ^^

[verbal forge]

goobi not smart

they are mixed with SI and divinity

[civic rampart]

But they are watered down

So not really the same

[vapid lava]

I'll try

I have CW available but he doesn't seem to help either

[agile steeple]

I mean as long as grez has the atk steal, he'll be meta

skill 3 iirc

capped at 1600% of his own atk stat

[pine sable]

u can try chicken instead of mishka and front line merlin

[agile steeple]

but at the same time I'm not sure how power scales in companions pve, and if enemies are stronger enough stat-wise for it to be worth

[verbal forge]

no grez is capped here

[agile steeple]

grez is capped in classic too

[lusty plank]

I’m not so sure. Due to quitting for 2 years I’m 3 awakeneds behind. For example I finished Estrilda but I still lack Fawkes, Skiriath and Zohra

Other than that i’m good

[agile steeple]

the cap is just very large

so up until like 400 deficit it's good

[lusty plank]

Dragons aren’t that far back now

[verbal forge]

here is just very low

[lusty plank]

And cele hypos are good

[verbal forge]

and it does no dmg

[civic rampart]

Grez is ass here

I really only use him for MR

[agile steeple]

it's probably because other heroes are relatively much higher damage yeah

grez is pretty meh in classic too in terms of dps, but it just does more when everyone else hits like a wet noodle

but you guys have like SJW and other op stuff

[civic rampart]

[agile steeple]

is asol a good dps too?

[verbal forge]

only op here here is swj

nothing crazy yet

[agile steeple]

I remember she was pretty good

[civic rampart]

Sometimes

You need Nevanthi to really get her going

[agile steeple]

I think just give it 1 more generation of woke heroes

gen 2 is where the broken stuff starts

[civic rampart]

Most of the time it’s only 500-600m max

[verbal forge]

doeent matter cuz aw heroes here are noy unlocked

fully

cuz they will be too good

and they are free

so who knows maybe in 1-2 years

[agile steeple]

abelinda, ashem, maetria, lyca

awthalia

[vapid lava]

Hmm @pine sable it kinda maybe can work with mishka but idk

[agile steeple]

all the broken stuff

[civic rampart]

I’m close to unlocking AwMaetria

So much money

[worldly quiver]

They are purposely only releasing niche heroes in comp even among the old heroes they are avoiding the release of heroes that have actual potential

[agile steeple]

wait maetria is in the game?

[verbal forge]

yeah but they will not have for example furniture and engravings skills

[civic rampart]

Yeah

You need 5a0 Hypos

[verbal forge]

compared to the rest of the heroes

[agile steeple]

I guess to keep balance... yikes that tough

[worldly quiver]

Maybe to boost celehypo sales instead...idk

[agile steeple]

wait if they do ashem without furn that's going to be so ass

[pine sable]

have u ever heard of gambling my friend?
i might have the right game for u then

[verbal forge]

imagine using solise in clasic

[agile steeple]

same as alna....

what the heck

[civic rampart]

Being a Hypo glazer I will spend anyways

[verbal forge]

without furniture and engvs

[agile steeple]

what the heck

why would they do that

[vapid lava]

Nah nah I'm swapping back

[verbal forge]

cuz shes free

[agile steeple]

those skills are like their entire kit

[vapid lava]

Ill just modify others

[verbal forge]

she is still good in early game

[worldly quiver]

Most 4 faction top pvp teams haven't changed any BiS in like a whole year, dr gets small BiS upgrades now and then but nothing important

[verbal forge]

but later one falls off

[pine sable]

weak mind

[civic rampart]

We still use the same Trishea Wilder comp since she came out

[agile steeple]

she still has her SP skill though right

[pine sable]

https://tenor.com/view/digging-for-diamonds-never-give-up-gamble-gambling-keep-gambling-gif-15498081004227486559

[agile steeple]

her SP is the main thing

[verbal forge]

yes

[pine sable]

@vapid lava

[verbal forge]

abrutus was changed

cuz he would be ass

without engv and furniture

[civic rampart]

Awutus is 🔥

[verbal forge]

now here he has 3 cheat deaths

[civic rampart]

I love Awutus

[agile steeple]

smh why not just keep the original kits

smh

[agile steeple]

oh that's pretty legit

[tranquil jackal]

does anyone do skill testing in companions?

[civic rampart]

Because we’re the test 😞

[agile steeple]

what the, bob in companion chat?

[vapid lava]

No

[lusty plank]

@timber cipher does

[civic rampart]

Hey Jazzy

[verbal forge]

there are some big whales here

[agile steeple]

test for what though

[pine sable]

nah

[verbal forge]

but they are not on discord

[sleek field]

Dont know classic much, I do like the awakened heroes. They do add flavour to the game and have an impact, albeit not broken impact

[tranquil jackal]

ngl I clicked the wrong channel but it looked like an interesting conversation

[verbal forge]

koreans and rusians

[worldly quiver]

He's still weak compared to A. Solise though, not entirely due to his own weakness but more because A. Solise can have solid wilders with her while A. Brutus is stuck with bums

[civic rampart]

Just in general 😞

[agile steeple]

[ebon sand]

[lusty plank]

Jazz here is quite huge tbh

[agile steeple]

[pine sable]

THE GOATS

[sleek field]

Still 2 whole chapters ahead of me 🤓

[civic rampart]

GZ!!!

[ebon sand]

I cooked like a mfing chef!

[agile steeple]

I miss the good old days when campaign used to be the focus of the community

I hope they never add RGMs to companions

[lusty plank]

Congratz on the T3 Mez! @sleek field

[tranquil jackal]

that's cuz it was like, the only game mode

[verbal forge]

yom is the first to beat campaign

[civic rampart]

Ch50 next!

[tranquil jackal]

(lol faction towers)

[worldly quiver]

50% of them are asian office workers that just do their own thing

[verbal forge]

tbh

[agile steeple]

campaign focus is a great community vibe

[verbal forge]

rest of them just copy him

big whales dont even use their brain to push

[sleek field]

Hehe 😎

[lusty plank]

@agile steeple @tranquil jackal This is endgame comp pushing. Yom is #1 in the campaign rn

[tranquil jackal]

Dart Rene and Cal used to spend hours inventing new comps

[ebon sand]

I don't even know how I came up with that tbh

[agile steeple]

ye

[worldly quiver]

I've seen some gigawhales that don't even play events or stuff they just pay and leave the game😭

[lusty plank]

We’re way more tight knit since campaign is the main focus here. No RGM

[verbal forge]

there are guys close to maxing heroes ane they just wait for yom to push campaign

[civic rampart]

I just pay for fun

I’m real

[agile steeple]

well I guess the same thing is happening with NC comps and whatnot, but it just doesn't feel the same

[sleek field]

Getting ch47 sub 400 RC I think 🤞

[tranquil jackal]

it helped that invests used to be simpler to replicate

[agile steeple]

are OPM dims good?

[agile steeple]

true

[verbal forge]

tatsu is good

[lusty plank]

Y0M, Iperx and Zephyr are rhe GOATs of pushing. It’s a shame Zephyr basically retired

[pine sable]

the cc chain is crazy
also FUCK HENDRIK ong

[verbal forge]

bald guy is meh

[lusty plank]

The s75 Korean has no comp building skills tho

[pine sable]

L opinion

[agile steeple]

rip saitama, reduced to bald guy now

[verbal forge]

he looks like a bum

[pine sable]

baldy

[ebon sand]

You didn't watch my replay to say that 😭

[agile steeple]

he seems like a good support

[tranquil jackal]

does companions even run on the same dmg formula? or did they wise up and make defense worth a damn?

[agile steeple]

one of those fits everywhere heroes

[ebon sand]

I'm starting to like him

[verbal forge]

its different

[agile steeple]

I think their powerscaing is very different

[verbal forge]

cuz there is no tree here

no constelations

[agile steeple]

like if you see the replays, people are only pushing 80 deficit

[verbal forge]

no artifacts

[tranquil jackal]

tree doesnt affect the dmg formula

[verbal forge]

is way more hard to push

[tranquil jackal]

there's less powercreeps, sure. but that's not what im asking

[agile steeple]

and 80 deficit is like legit lower than what we pushed with shem lb comps

[verbal forge]

haste is very hard to come by

[agile steeple]

which makes no sense because obviously their heroes are much better than shem lb

[verbal forge]

if we had the artifacts

tbh it would be a walk in the park

[lusty plank]

Even 50 rc difference is hard here for example

[worldly quiver]

You also need to consider the enemies aren't the same either

[verbal forge]

with some heroes

[agile steeple]

which makes it hard to estimate what kind of def the enemies are

[civic rampart]

-# Mezoth is meta btw

[ebon sand]

Yeah, I had a decent base but obviously the Athalia was problematic and I was using ABrutus against her, didn't look half bad then I was like, let's try Skregg for the lolz and it looked even better, got it in 3 or 4 attempts

[agile steeple]

no but 80 deficit in classic is universally very low, even if every single team was like thoran flora tasi

but 80 deficit here feels much harder

[tranquil jackal]

is possible they changed the lvl up scaling too. could be something crazy like +4% to base stats every level

[agile steeple]

there's definitely a different RC scaling

[verbal forge]

the biggest problem is no artifacts

[agile steeple]

yooo cram would be op then

[verbal forge]

thats what made some heroes viable in clasic

[weak blaze]

I think they did

[verbal forge]

without artifacts they are just bums

[weak blaze]

Defense seems To make a difference here

[agile steeple]

I mean we ran crappy artifacts for most of the game

[tranquil jackal]

the dmg formula is
"(atk x skill multiplier^2)/(atk x skill multiplier + 5 x Def)
did that change?

[verbal forge]

imagine pushing early clasic

[agile steeple]

like most of the aritfacts are just like +10 haste

[verbal forge]

withou call

or eye

[weak blaze]

No one here will know that

[agile steeple]

idk if you remember, but we used to only hve 7 artifacts to share between 25 heroes

[weak blaze]

If @timber cipher doesn’t know no one does

[verbal forge]

yeah but later on u could use call

[lusty plank]

Wait are you the OG rift guide author on reddit? Yeah I don’t think anyone here can provide that info lol

[verbal forge]

on like 5 heroes

[tranquil jackal]

we eventually wisened up and use eye/call on everything
barricade was game changing though. cheat death where we could choose the recipient was crazy ceiling raiser

[agile steeple]

so most heroes won't get an artifact, which is fine because like dura's chalice is not very game breaking

[lusty plank]

Iperx is very good at technical things tho

[agile steeple]

or drape

or conviction

[lusty plank]

It’s a shame he isn’t here

[worldly quiver]

I feel like the level difference matters less the higher the more you climb, when everyone was at 360 even 40/50 felt like a train wreck now it feels fine while 60/70 feels horrible

[agile steeple]

or grace

[lusty plank]

I will tag him so he can backread tho @timber cipher

[verbal forge]

u just need the call to be on the main hero

thats whats hit or miss

[agile steeple]

probably some kind of attenuating power scaling, very similar to classic after RC 502

[tranquil jackal]

among other things. I'm most known for delving into skill mechanics and interaction testing

[agile steeple]

iperx the new bob?

[ebon sand]

I'm hoping iperx won't be mad at me, I kept sending him SS of my findings despite the "do not disturb" sign

I ended up soloing the damn thing

[lusty plank]

He does technical stuff like skills and seeing what works against what hero down to a T

[civic rampart]

If PapaPerx does get angry I’ll fight him

[lusty plank]

I could never

[agile steeple]

yep, sounds like bob

[civic rampart]

Just unleash me on him

[lusty plank]

We have some guys like that in the companions world, huge respect

[ebon sand]

Thanks! Put your Mez cosplay on first, for the phys res bonus

[lusty plank]

Sailus programmed the spirit summoning simulator for example

[agile steeple]

bob and ensign laid the foundations for most of classic afk arena theory

[civic rampart]

Welcome back crown

[pine sable]

yeah i used a similar comp with saitama and crassio earlier wait let me tag u

[pine sable]

@ebon sand

[lusty plank]

@tranquil jackal Since you’re here. Were you aware that Walker is unironically S tier for a certain boss or two in Twister Realm?

[tranquil jackal]

with so few pcreeps, I feel it'd be easy to make the level scaling chart that you used way back when to justify cramming

[agile steeple]

I did a little bit of cramming stuff in the middle, but it was mainly them

[agile steeple]

the thing is lilith frickin hard gated exp in companions

like you can't even whale levels

[lusty plank]

This is a kraken using walker

[tranquil jackal]

[lusty plank]

From now

So Walker is very much meta

And this wasn’t a fluke

[agile steeple]

[tranquil jackal]

sure, but you can figure out level scaling pretty easily

[agile steeple]

what the heck

[civic rampart]

Walker is busted here

[agile steeple]

that's true

[lusty plank]

They added him as a meme too

[agile steeple]

well it would be easier if someone just did a little bit of mining

[lusty plank]

First hero without a banner

[civic rampart]

My walker is still only mythic

[lusty plank]

Just randomly dropped him in

With Raine’s debut

[agile steeple]

which like cmon how has no one done that yet

[lusty plank]

Wait this is wrong iirc

[agile steeple]

would be very helpful for campaign guys

[ebon sand]

Nice one, maulers without ABrutus is definitely interesting, I wonder if it would've worked without pepesus

[worldly quiver]

Yeah he came like 2-3 months later

[tranquil jackal]

with so much of the game seemingly time-gated or simply not added yet, that leaves plenty of time to mess around with numbers I should think

[agile steeple]

we need to have some kind of baseline, otherwise we'd be trying to solve a linear equation with two unknowns here

[pine sable]

as @runic salmon said probably yes
-# he said it wouldnt

[tranquil jackal]

so crowdsource it. they shud have enough dedicated ppl to get an approximation

[lusty plank]

I’m surprised you never thought about trying companions. It’d be like laying down the basics all over game, but with a ton of new twists

((Walker meta))

Classic people don’t realize how different they truly are

[tranquil jackal]

what game modes and artifacts exist currently?

[agile steeple]

I mean bob doesn't even play classic anymore

[lusty plank]

No artifacts rn

And only one game mode for competing

[tranquil jackal]

oh. not even drape?

[lusty plank]

It’s called the Twisted realm

[lusty plank]

Broski, legit none

[agile steeple]

[lusty plank]

They do not exist lol

Not even the 2019 ones

[agile steeple]

I miss when TR was the only RGM

[civic rampart]

I’m an arena fanatic

I hate PvE

[tranquil jackal]

anything stopping u from trying comp then?

[agile steeple]

and the only RGM minmaxing was staying at lv299 to not go to the next bracket

[agile steeple]

I tried comp

the campaign turned me away

[pine sable]

i like all modes except for fucking expedition remove that shit

[civic rampart]

#RemoveExpe

[lusty plank]

But TR here is different from classic. It has 6 rounds, the 6th round is one of the 4 TR bosses. The rankings are based on damage across the 6 rounds

[worldly quiver]

Please

[agile steeple]

oh what

wait that's CR

[tranquil jackal]

... so it's CR

[lusty plank]

This is TR bro

[agile steeple]

what the heck

[ebon sand]

Expedition sucks but I'll keep the gems income though

[agile steeple]

[lusty plank]

Look at the too

Top

[agile steeple]

dude

it's over guys

[pine sable]

TR is confusing tf out of me cos we have temporal rift now

[agile steeple]

soon there will be TS

and NC

and campaign wil be dead

[lusty plank]

God I hope not

[agile steeple]

[lusty plank]

That is just classic v2

[tranquil jackal]

5 rounds of 2-5 enemies, then one boss, is just CR from classic

[civic rampart]

If they add dragons

I quit

[lusty plank]

I started playing ts to escape from the classic rgm rat race

[agile steeple]

dragons and collections same update

[worldly quiver]

Though they are cutting the diamonds from other events etc because expedition exists, we have been getting less and less guild individual etc events ever since expedition came out

[pine sable]

AMEN

[agile steeple]

I think they should add collections though

[worldly quiver]

It's literally sucking life out of the game

[agile steeple]

just make it not cancerous like GG is

[tranquil jackal]

this does feel more my speed tbh. collections are bullshit, and the amount of the cheat death spam we were getting effectively nulled so many stats

[lusty plank]

I can almost guarantee they will NEVER add colls here. Lilith is aware of all the backlash, but they can’t just roll them back on classic atp

[pine sable]

dont ever give me that fucking gallery

[agile steeple]

otherwise there's just so little stability in comps

[lusty plank]

No collections indeed, but no artifacts either

No furniture and engravings

[agile steeple]

what if collections was like pets

resonating, no stat

[tranquil jackal]

only call and eye are worth a damn of the initial batch

[civic rampart]

Man I wish they would just release Labyrinth

[lusty plank]

Well the current pet system is the worst that pets offer and the colls lol

U have to ascend pets

And they have random traits

U have to combine them

In hopes of getting to 8 stats (not happening)

[tranquil jackal]

like seriously, drape is sofa king bad that it could definitely be added to comp and change nothing

[civic rampart]

Instead of spending all this time on Expe they could finish Labyrinth faster

[lusty plank]

Cause u can downgrade pets

[worldly quiver]

"coming soon" I think labyrinth has erectile dysfunction because it's not coming at all💔

[pine sable]

#companions-suggestions

[vapid lava]

@pine sable

[civic rampart]

[pine sable]

TIME TO VOTE

[maiden hare]

Smh, come to companions it’s the main unrewarding game mode since launch

[lusty plank]

For example an ascended pet with 6 traits can go down to 5 instead of 7

[pine sable]

i mean u freed the cheat code
gg

[civic rampart]

Everyone vote for that shit

[vapid lava]

I had to

[agile steeple]

I might come if they add collections

[lusty plank]

Screaming in the void atp

[agile steeple]

trying to do campaign with alna, ashem and flight is just

[lusty plank]

So never

[pine sable]

maybe one day someone will answer

[maiden hare]

In that regard companions run on crack

[lusty plank]

Without?

[agile steeple]

I really don't miss the 2020 macro for 3 hours to clear a multi experience

[vapid lava]

I think Mira is my next si30

Or Talene

[pine sable]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[agile steeple]

without yeah

[civic rampart]

Indeed

Indeed I agree

[vapid lava]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262653327259471903/1429948913149939802/martinf2p.gif

Companions rally

[civic rampart]

Lmao

[lusty plank]

Hahahahaahah

[pine sable]

Lol

[lusty plank]

The great war

[pine sable]

[lusty plank]

#iwasthere

[civic rampart]

The Great War of 25

[tranquil jackal]

i am surprised pushers havent tried to figure out level scaling though. i feel it would help

[pine sable]

#metoo

oh wait

thats smth different

[civic rampart]

I was there man

[vapid lava]

What do you mean?

[vapid lava]

#same

[tranquil jackal]

in classic, we figured out exactly how much stats grew at every level

[pine sable]

have u heard of trial and error and the rng heavies shit comps ever my friend?

[tranquil jackal]

never my style

[lusty plank]

Fwiw I can quickly brief u on some major differences. Over here we don’t have furniture nor engravings. We have divinities

[pine sable]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

[vapid lava]

Doing too much

[lusty plank]

These contain the effects of furnis and engravings

But are based on stars

[pine sable]

we just raw dog it

[lusty plank]

So unlike classic where u jus need 1 star

Here you tend to need at least 3, usually 5

[civic rampart]

We just put it in no lube and find out

[lusty plank]

Otherwise some heroes (most) are dogshit

This is really good for 4F heroes, but makes celes and hypos only for whales

[crystal patrol]

Feels better to win that way

[civic rampart]

Indeed

[pine sable]

who said that?
did gooby get hacked again?

[maiden hare]

Also on the formula regard, with some sneaky nerfs/buffs from Lilith (probably playing with code) we deal sometimes like 10B less or 10B more in Dream Realm (CR classic) 🤡

[pine sable]

[lusty plank]

[tranquil jackal]

how difficult is it to get stars?

[lusty plank]

Sailus is our tech guy fyi

[agile steeple]

it's jsut normal

which sucks

[lusty plank]

The same way u get heroes in classic

[agile steeple]

imagine having to 5* all celepos

to get 309e60

well they don't have furn skills or engraving skills

[lusty plank]

Some krakens here don’t have to

We have some insane accs

Lilith loves companions

[maiden hare]

Imagine some people have Transcendence 4 celepos

That’s like 50 copies or more

[agile steeple]

gosh

that

[maiden hare]

Of 1 hero

[agile steeple]

shudders in poverty

[lusty plank]

They are contained in the divinities no?

This is for Albedo

[agile steeple]

oh what

wait

ok yeah 5* for 309e60 then

[maiden hare]

-# ps you can’t stargaze with diamonds here

[lusty plank]

This^

[agile steeple]

but like we have other ways of getting poe and cores and whatnot, so we can balance

they literally have to stargaze 24 copies of heroes

[tranquil jackal]

it wasnt as bad as it sounds. large swathes of levels would have the same scaling

[pine sable]

[lusty plank]

Honestly fuck furni, cuz of all those days I missed out on i’m surprisingly very behind on that front

[agile steeple]

its also just mined

we extract the leveling spreadsheet

[tranquil jackal]

are there awk heroes here?

[worldly quiver]

There's this guy on s7 that has all celehypo at a5 at the very least but he's keeping mehira at elite+ for whatever reason lmao

[lusty plank]

My rc is 976 but i have less furni pieces than my rc

Quitting for 2 years moment

[civic rampart]

Yeah but they’re unlocked for free after getting 5 a0 heroes of that faction

[agile steeple]

they did awakening the right way imo

very cool how they implemented it

[lusty plank]

Yes and I have some bittersweet news regarding them

[maiden hare]

You need 5 ascended heroes of the faction and you get the awakened hero for free

[lusty plank]

They range from being free to costing at least $3000

[maiden hare]

It works nice for 4f

[worldly quiver]

Definitely not for celehypo awakened, f2p will never get them

[agile steeple]

I wish classic had that, but obviously that would be too free for us, so have relatievely scaled unlocking mechanism

[tranquil latch]

Is furniture likely to be introduced into companions in the future or likely/hopefully never?

[lusty plank]

They would just become like dims lmao

[civic rampart]

AwMaetria please come home 😭

[agile steeple]

instruction unclear, you guys get awezizh instead

[pine sable]

its a diabolical requirement for celehypos tho cos u cant fucking build them unless u spend like a mad man
like two awakened heroes out of 4 are literally almost unobtainable for 99% of the player base lmfao

[agile steeple]

jokes aside awezizh would be pretty good in companions

[civic rampart]

I want Vyloris as the next Hypo release

[maiden hare]

And you need x8 heroes on 5 stars to get the awakened hero to 5 stars (to unlock divinity which is furn + engraving)

[agile steeple]

or oglath

do you guys have olgath?

he's rpretty good

[maiden hare]

But we don’t have divinity for awk heroes yet so that’s good I guess

[pine sable]

[agile steeple]

you guys have framton right

[lusty plank]

This is how we obtain awakened heroes @agile steeple @tranquil jackal

[civic rampart]

We just got Frampton recently

[lusty plank]

Latest hypo release

No Olgath yet

[agile steeple]

noooo the frampton syndrome has invaded companions too

[maiden hare]

Yeah newest celehypo, he is pretty good here

[civic rampart]

I want Vyloris for burst

[agile steeple]

framton was one of my favorite heroes

he's the one that got me into solving campaign myself

framton + mortas + fox

with trishea

[lusty plank]

Ppl whaling him quickly

He’s good here

[civic rampart]

I’m getting his a0 next after Khaz

[agile steeple]

oh as in calling him frampton instead of framton

[maiden hare]

Oh speaking about pets, you know about the kraken meta here

[lusty plank]

Did u also know we got the temporal rift before the LABBY? Isn’t that insane

[lusty plank]

Lmao i’ve always used the P

I didn’t even realize the syndrome

[agile steeple]

idk who started it, but everyone calls him frampton for some reason

to the point that the shortening is frampy

but where is the p

[lusty plank]

Wtf I thought he had the P

I thought u were meming urself lol

Cuz u wrote Framton

But it actually is Framton

Mindblown

[civic rampart]

He’s framfram to me

[lusty plank]

[tranquil jackal]

Is there only one awk per faction atm? If theres multiple can u choose which u get?

[civic rampart]

We only have 4 atm

[lusty plank]

No lb and gb rn

But we know who to expect

Thane and Baden

[civic rampart]

I need my AwGB nowwwww

[lusty plank]

Anyone else would be ridiculous atp

[civic rampart]

[lusty plank]

They’re doing all the gen 1 aws

But not for hypo

They skipped Ezizh

I think cuz everyone expected him and he was mid in classic

While Maetria is gen 2 and she’s used to this day e60si30

[tranquil jackal]

I mean, mid in classic is meaningless if they can take walker from trash to BiS

We were genuinely confused on Walker's release - what was the point of a unit that weak

[woeful eagle]

cowboy

[civic rampart]

Gun

[tranquil jackal]

We brought knives to the gun fight. We won

[agile steeple]

He has a gun

And decides to be melee with it

Iirc he was pretty strong as an AE enemy though

Maybe our deficits just got too high

[lusty plank]

Well Walker is useless in campaign don’t get me wrong

It’s just that one damn mode where he’s bis

For a boss

He even did crazy damage at L+

That’s the insane part

It’s his damn kit

Not even SI

Or divinities

[tranquil jackal]

He wasnt good in rgm or arena either though
Deficits had nothing to do w it. He had a bad kit with bad scaling in every context

[tranquil jackal]

Do you know which skill(s) does that?

[lusty plank]

I don’t know honestly and I’m pretty sure no one does

Since his skills should be the same as his classic self

[fading rapids]

Should I use all my spirits on her or ascend her to a certain what is it tier?

[woeful eagle]

doesn't look like you can get very far rn but you can go ahead and make her elite+

[fading rapids]

Should I leave her at Elite+ for now or get her to legendary

I got another spirit rn so I can ascend her

[woeful eagle]

go for it

she's decent just dies fast

prob be a solid carry for you for a while