companions-chat

[quick hinge]

Awnser your dam dm mr

[verbal forge]

realm of shadows ? da fuk is that

[runic salmon]

expeditions shit

[timber cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-realm-yu-gi-oh-yami-yugi-seto-kaiba-crack-gif-16684133

[verbal forge]

u mean the caves ?

just call them cracker caves

[iron viper]

not me watching the first season of Yu-Gi-Oh at the same time

[timber cipher]

a classic

[quick hinge]

[iron viper]

[quick hinge]

?

[iron viper]

yes

[timber cipher]

i swear y0m and me need some help

y0m is cooking harder than anyone and we're always motivating each other to push further

[ebon sand]

I'll just say this, Ferael is fucking meta VS Flora!

[weak blaze]

At what invest?

[timber cipher]

mainly his SI

[weak blaze]

Oh no

[timber cipher]

possibly also a3 unhaste

[weak blaze]

Scheiße

[timber cipher]

we have a5 +20

[ebon sand]

mine is like that, but lower could probably work

[weak blaze]

Im at an emblem deficit already

[timber cipher]

we've not been using him a lot - but yea posted him on stall meta and tbf

we were stuck on one stupid fight for a long time

y0m put in ferael

he did it first try

aura

for me it was like 3rd try

[weak blaze]

Yo i dont get mira stall

[weak blaze]

Who so you use it against?

[timber cipher]

bs that we cant beat

that cooks everything

[weak blaze]

[timber cipher]

basically if sjw dies before he can do anything and so on

[weak blaze]

Mine do nothing

Maybe i dont try Long enough?

[ebon sand]

yeah we spent at least 2hrs on that single fight

[timber cipher]

it depends we use a2+ celestwings

[weak blaze]

[timber cipher]

its like mira, shall and celestwing

i know it works at a0 for sure

[weak blaze]

[ebon sand]

I was ready to give up and just put ferael not expecting anything and I couldn't believe my eyes

[timber cipher]

but even better at a2

mythic cw is kinda underwhelming

[weak blaze]

Yea i noticed

[timber cipher]

starting at a0 his number start to be much higher

[weak blaze]

Well im Hardstuck anyway

[timber cipher]

i was like putting haelus, putting fricking aSolise

idk man lmao

[weak blaze]

I only got 20 leafs saved toll now

[ebon sand]

yeah, sure it's impossible to say we tried everything but it damn sure felt like it

[timber cipher]

what stage are u stuck on 44-32?

[weak blaze]

Yea

Tried a Lot of Methods

[ebon sand]

I hope we'll be able to reproduce the ferael trick later on!

[timber cipher]

hmm, like 1-2 battles or like overall again?

[timber cipher]

100% - will try it against next floras

[weak blaze]

Team 1 and 5 were easy but the other 3 i just feel underleveled

[timber cipher]

and if it works i'll +30 that mf

[timber cipher]

what level is everyone using (ignore tran, aslong as you have a5 ur good) - what ascension are you lacking?

and what SI do you seem to be lacking?

[weak blaze]

This is the best copyable Solution for now, Team 1 and 5 work just the way they Are,
Team 2 i seem to be lacking a5 or a well built Arthur at all

3 laios is used as Tank so No Chance there either

[timber cipher]

your aBrutus is stronger thasn a0 aBrutus btw again

[weak blaze]

And 4 could potentially work but it didnt After 50+ tries

[weak blaze]

Yea i know

But hes still si10 not 20 yet

Dont have the Emblems for it

[timber cipher]

[timber cipher]

team 2 is rng that hodgkin doesnt hit your gwyn i remember that stage

you can kil leverything but that hodgkin is boss and somehow clears you, if im not wrong?

[weak blaze]

Lowest with somewhat normal Heros is just 1 Player with 387 the Rest is at or over my reso

[timber cipher]

100% beatable then

[weak blaze]

I can show u a couple rounds

[timber cipher]

you can

i think your limit should be 44-48 as said

but 44-32 is a grind stage like not just 50+ tries, its for some way more

[weak blaze]

Yea i believe u

[weak blaze]

That didnt Happen once at 50+ Maybe 100+ tries

Not once was it that Kind of close

So i tried my wilder laios but Thats also not working

[timber cipher]

nvm missrememberd then with another hodgkin/orthros stage where orthros died esaily but hodgkin didnt, but i think its doable if you burn the respen

are there any solution with gwyneth on the respen spot or are all in the middle?

bc your gwyneth needs either to kill theowyn and then kill respen

or she needs to kill respen into the frontliners

[weak blaze]

Every Single One

Everyone uses a different Backline but all of them use Brutus Athur

[timber cipher]

then its like lucky gwyn critting all 3 frontliners and then like respen being tanked

try numisu pls as totem spam/taunt instead of raine

should be more consistent since orthros/respen will get stuck on totems

[weak blaze]

Ill give it a go

Even though faction Bonus dissapears?

[timber cipher]

100% gwyn should have enough dmg

raine gives crit but numisu also gives 20% dmg

if raine casts she also gives atk

but she dies to fast in your comp

[weak blaze]

Arthur insta dies aswell as gwen

[timber cipher]

try 30-50 times atleast for a small size test

[ebon sand]

I got 46-50 iperx, t'was fucking close

[timber cipher]

gzz!!

cant wait to get stuck on 46-56 where like 2 stages have to use sjw and athalia as antiheal for talenes

[ebon sand]

51 in the bag as well

[timber cipher]

i wonder whats currently up with zephyr

[ebon sand]

what do you mean? Him being behind?

[timber cipher]

yea

didnt see him climb towers and campaign a lot

[ebon sand]

I think it's simple, our solutions don't work with his box so he has to rethink most of the fights

and also probably limited free time I guess

[timber cipher]

possible but he almost has every hero that we use no?

he everythung but aTalene and we've been using little normal Talene atm and i think you can just replace them for most cases

[ebon sand]

he's got atalene, the main problem is his CW is mythic

probably no haelus too

[timber cipher]

oo

yea haelus usage increases and cw for sure for our stall solutions

[ebon sand]

maybe he no longer whales

or just care about expedition, or got a kid, lost his job, everything is possible lol

[timber cipher]

he has like really low online time compared to before yea

but he got levels in dust event

not that many like not maxed out

[ebon sand]

he still has better petS that we'll ever have though

[timber cipher]

pet combining

i lost 2x t5s recently

i tried t6 + t5

2x

because my idea was like instead of using t4s i use t5s t o get a t7

didnt work these 2 times and it hurts

[ebon sand]

yeah we talked about it, I think this system is just cursed

[timber cipher]

because losing a t5 is losing atleast 2x t4s, maybe even 3x t4s

its like a hellish staircase

i would just love to see the odds off a successfull combine of what level in the combination menu

[ebon sand]

a few days ago I made about 200 pulls, I thought I'd get a couple ascended pets and... not even one

[timber cipher]

like tell me if i t6 + t4 its 0,000000001% for t8 1% for t7, 60% for t6 and like 38,9% for t5

[ebon sand]

yeah it's so shit we don't even have actual numbers

[timber cipher]

and if i t6 + t6 its like 1% chance for t8 and like 10% chance for t7 or something

yee

[weak blaze]

Yo didnt work at all

Didnt See one round with either arthur or gwen surviving

[timber cipher]

that is crazy

[ebon sand]

but in the end, even if for sure an a8 pet is like a cheatcode that reduce the number of required attempts by 10 or something, we still manage to pull through with our shit pets

[timber cipher]

what is the most used backline - u said they all use different ones?

[weak blaze]

Oden once

[ebon sand]

but in the past when Zeph was leading, I had to rethink some fights because I had 0 chance to win some of them because of his OP owl

[timber cipher]

agreed, like his 2x ice crown solutions and owl were like different

[weak blaze]

Numise zaphrael

Thats it

[timber cipher]

oden is there as anti energy so orthros doesnt ult

zaph is aoe burst - because dmg reaplies

numisu should work as said

what is the lowest arthur that was used?

level/si/ascension

[weak blaze]

A5

A5 si20 lvl 387

[timber cipher]

what you could do is using a defensive pet like deer and try 30% defense buff for 10s

[weak blaze]

Average has him si30

[weak blaze]

Would waiting Till im reso 395 make any difference

[timber cipher]

other than that you could only try using a celestial + icecrown for an initial stun

you can chill for sure would make it easier than trying for hours on the stage

[weak blaze]

Because i dont think Even if iwin this one that the other two will be any easier

[timber cipher]

like y0m and i duo interacted for 4 hours today

to beat a stage

[weak blaze]

Crazy Crazy

[timber cipher]

and i preworked 2-3 hours on that stage

and he preworked on that stage after my prework already

[weak blaze]

Wow

Crazy guys

[timber cipher]

before we did the 4 hours together today lmao

like we really need the hivemind

[weak blaze]

I can Tell hahahah

[timber cipher]

its such a time eater but atleast i can do smth else like finances or watching vids and idk

but i need like a treadmill to move on

did you have time to look already?

[weak blaze]

Yea did i send u one?

[timber cipher]

not yet

[weak blaze]

Yea i Found one

[timber cipher]

[ebon sand]

I must be up in 3hrs and a half 😒

I know what I'll be doing tomorrow afternoon

zZZzZZzzZZZz

[timber cipher]

working on weekends is a bummer

take atleast a good nap if you can

[ebon sand]

oh I will, even during my shift if it's quiet

[timber cipher]

i swear sometimes when i get called that production in china or mexico are down i could scream like plenty times while at home i have to connect to some of their productive environments and fix their networks/robots/servers

[ebon sand]

sounds super complicated

finding comps is like resting your brain no?

[pine sable]

2hrs

i wanna go bed

Lilith do smth about this terrible reset time

[pine sable]

gimme until tuesday and u can copy me

i will start pushing again next week i think

[weak blaze]

[weak blaze]

Give me your acc

Ill do us Both this Week if u want

[pine sable]

its okay I drank an energy on top of that I want them to just change it permanently cos this shit sucks, always ruins my sleep schedule

[weak blaze]

Its bc were in Germany

In the US its prob 18

[pine sable]

i also always get sniped last 20sec so u might not be abled to do it lol

[weak blaze]

Ill put u on Bluestack and me on my Phone wouldnt really be a problem

[pine sable]

yeah but they had sun and moon arena before surely they can do the same for current arena

[weak blaze]

There Must have been a good reason they stopped that

[pine sable]

i doubt lilith does anything with “good” reasoning except money

[pine sable]

maybe next week if im rly busy, i cant sleep anyways now after the energy lol also someone already attacked me and failed miserably to get past my first 2 teams

F stands for effort or sum like that

[weak blaze]

Yeah i can do whenever

[runic salmon]

are t1 celehypos a thing?

[weak blaze]

Well

With a big enough Pocket for sure

[runic salmon]

some whale in my region is near 2 t1 celehypos lol

[weak blaze]

So you can answer your questions yourself

[runic salmon]

regional arena is gonna be fun 🥀 💔

[runic salmon]

i thought i was tweaking tho

[weak blaze]

I only have 2 Server luckily

[timber cipher]

yea thanks tank level

[runic salmon]

i had to double check cause ive never seen t1 celehypos

[weak blaze]

Its obviously a waste of Money

Maybe not for iperx

But for us mortals for sure

[runic salmon]

i would like to see him test it tho

he's gonna t1 si40 audrae

think its currently si39

[weak blaze]

Wtf

[timber cipher]

tank had t2 audrae

[timber cipher]

holy si 39 is crazy tank didnt even went for t40s

we had some guys that went for si30+ on shalltear/aSolise/aBrutus but mostly all quit

hypo/dims do have the best SI scaling so that is tbf with current knowledge not a waste

(if he has enough other stuff and well wants to spend his money)

[weak blaze]

Well iperx

[vapid lava]

Hm?

What is

[weak blaze]

What time is Arena Where your from

[vapid lava]

Reset? 7pm

[weak blaze]

Now That Ur mod

[vapid lava]

US reset is between 5-8pm unless Hawaii or Alaska

[weak blaze]

Its time to get us a Ashemira

[timber cipher]

im not mod, jd is mod

[weak blaze]

Sybau

Get me an Ashemira

[vapid lava]

So yes 18

For the middle of the country

[weak blaze]

Its 2 am in Germany

[timber cipher]

all i can to take it or leave it

[vapid lava]

That sucks

[weak blaze]

Yea i supported u on that

[vapid lava]

At least it's not a whole siege phase

[weak blaze]

Well its a saturday so its alright

[vapid lava]

My siege is 11pm-1am

Annoying but not the worst

[weak blaze]

Why does that matter

[timber cipher]

well if you need to sleep for work it sucks

[vapid lava]

It won't soon... just a few more... days.. I can make it..

[vapid lava]

This

[weak blaze]

U dont Need to be awake for Siege as a normal player no?

[vapid lava]

Soon

[timber cipher]

as a player yes

as a deputy/leader no

[vapid lava]

My issue is I am not

I cycle on and off

One expedition I lead then next I am off

We are close to my break

[timber cipher]

would say you cant because of work and just leave everything disorganized and burning

[vapid lava]

I have help luckily

But we need to schedule better

Bc last night we burned

[timber cipher]

dont bother with expedition i worried - and you know what - history repeated itself in the next one where i didnt worry

so whether i worry or not - i didnt change anything at all because i cant control everyone

[vapid lava]

Friday night, something came up what can I say

[vapid lava]

Yup I do agree. Better to have our Russian and Asian friends take care of it as their time zones are better equipped

Helping plan is fun though

Siege is really fun a few times while you are learning actual siege tactics

[timber cipher]

bomber -> divine envoy -> siege (lock cannon) combo

[vapid lava]

But after you know specific reinforce/rally splitting and card combos/mobilize tricks you are done

[timber cipher]

[vapid lava]

Yeah and then just run away lol

For 10 minutes or so

[vapid lava]

That's a really ideal set of card rng and players who actually listen.

[timber cipher]

if you get a random card then you get the belt out for the league

[maiden hare]

hypo/dims are also the only ones you can go above si30

[timber cipher]

no

wokes and dimensionals can too

[maiden hare]

https://tenor.com/view/cummins-gif-12535975135255283466

[timber cipher]

but they have worse scalings

[maiden hare]

yeah forgot about wokes

[timber cipher]

like eventho laios has highest % as dim

his base stats on +40 max suck

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yzQWOwfKH8uRK9NkQKUWf99WgXPlXiWJiCC2psw-wcc/edit?gid=1395344074#gid=1395344074

this is the t5 +40 spreadsheet (based on lvl 360)

and if you look at mezoth you see f.e. the only hp aboe 10M

khazard, athalia have insanely high attack compared to everything else

mehira has insanely high deff compared to everything else

and mortas has the highest stat spread of any unit in the game

with almost 10M hp, 121k deff and mid attack

[maiden hare]

mezoth my boi

[timber cipher]

can only say the only reason why im slow building mortas is seeing the stat spread in action for campaign usage

bc people in classic 2020-2023 used mortas actually a lot on high diff

well more 2022 but meh a lot of mortas ainz usage

[maiden hare]

oh yeah high base stats could do wonders in high deficit I guess

[timber cipher]

yea we just need him to not die

if he lives and starts to steal healing with his greed he drain tanks it

because he has infinite sustain from enemy healers

thats how he lives on low deficit as one copy wonder

aah meant devilish deal*

[maiden hare]

vurk top 2 base atk in the game

oh no nvm

[maiden hare]

yeah the top was cut of for me until I reloaded

[timber cipher]

but up there

[maiden hare]

ainz was 1 place

and then the rest 😢

[timber cipher]

its crazy how high base atk isabella and belind ahve lol

like almost all top guildhunt heroes are basically the base top atk heroes

[maiden hare]

👀

they looking at you with those eye rn

[timber cipher]

yea no i get that

but audrae, belinda, isabella, lucretia, gwyneth, thane - all seen in gh

[maiden hare]

y it does add up with all those % so no wonder

[timber cipher]

poor ferael - and ig zaph is too expensive for most folks believe high asc +si zaph might be good cause he does like chain enemies together no?

[maiden hare]

I think zeph is useless in DR/GH, he should be good in pvp/campaign with higher asc but I don't see him doing dmg on bosses

[timber cipher]

but tbf we had a ferael doing gods work in campaign against a flora comp were y0m and me in duo were going completly crazy

[timber cipher]

^

[timber cipher]

i get that, but it feels like zaph should be broken for the multi-fight ae's with like 3 team, 4 team, 5 team heroes (non boss setups) - no?

because of that

[maiden hare]

idk if that will pair good with any of the team synergies and the DR debuffs

maybe some new sneaky zaph team could emerge but I just don't see him there now

[timber cipher]

would need to test that out instead of something else

like f.e. haelus out, zaph in

or lyca out, zaph in

just see how much damage transfers

bc against bosses ur right

but he is like known for dmg transfer

and in the 4-team 5-team solution he should be able to hit all of 'em with his aoe thunderstorm and ult darts

and if tagged then dmg transfer and if dmg transfer then numbers should go up

did not build zaph so cant test it 👀

[vapid lava]

My region uses zeph in this way, even at E+

It's okay with his new buffs

I'll have to see if I have any screenshots

[weak blaze]

U awake iperx

I usually Dont Lose in arena but with this comp its Rough

Its the Swamp map

[timber cipher]

does your 1 win? if not use sjw vs sjw

and then mirror his wilders with yours or ur other dims

[weak blaze]

So always mirror

[timber cipher]

no

its just that your 1 looks weak af

because sjw has 2 targets (ainz/marci) he can easily farm resets on

if u place targets that arent as easy to get resets on like shalltear, mira, talene, thoran, flora and so on i wouldnt have said it - but other than that you're atleast forced to mirror sjw

[quick hinge]

U gonna play duet next month?

[timber cipher]

and personally i think gwyneth has to be always on the 5th spot because 99% shes useless pre that, if you ever get gwyneth to weaken a comp sucessfully its very lucky

[weak blaze]

Okay

[timber cipher]

if its a mobile game for sure not

[quick hinge]

It's for all platforms

[pine sable]

im trying it as well

[timber cipher]

give me the resonance of the first 2 hours and maybe it'll catch me

[quick hinge]

Join my dc back

A few of us and selen are playing

[winged leaf]

What the hell is this furry fem s*ut doing here again?

[quick hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/love-live-sunshine-anime-you-watanabe-me-gif-7449498465798102714

[mint osprey]

bruuuh

i went to type

but i typed in classic chat

😟

Classic players😟

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-puppy-sleeping-going-to-bed-dog-going-to-bed-gif-11495956736830452104

[pine sable]

what this absolute BULLSHIT btw?

[civic rampart]

💀

[pine sable]

can u maybe give me a single boss during spire?

these devs are mentally deranged

i didnt have one boss in 9 attempts and my last reroll is this

[civic rampart]

Crazy

[timber flint]

I think i hit the drop rate here 😀

[timber cipher]

dayum 4 in 109 is crazy good like every 27-28

current pity is 66

[civic rampart]

Hey iperx did you want Mezoths trans stats? I got him trans1

[timber cipher]

sure hit me up with 'em

[timber cipher]

insight is cc increase and dodge hmm a bit weird for a tank

[civic rampart]

That’s what I was saying

[timber cipher]

yoooooo

that boy has 67.5 physical res

i wonder why my grezhul is flopping and doing me dirty

[civic rampart]

Oof

[timber cipher]

yea albedo has 40 phys res

arthur has 55

mishka has 37.2

laios has 46

damn

[civic rampart]

Told you he’s one of the best in the game

[timber cipher]

thats a new stat i need to think of now

[civic rampart]

It’s just extremely freaking expensive 😓

[spring shard]

Is Safiya good to build?

[timber cipher]

yea building one a5 hypo is a lot,

one a0 if you only buy nieche offers that are cheap is like 400-500$

[civic rampart]

Prob cost me around 1.5k just to build him trans1

But it was worth it 😩

[timber cipher]

not much data, some do have good results with her

she fits in 5 pull, pve bossing and king tower

[spring shard]

ok thanks

[timber cipher]

tbf in a rush everything is a bit more expensive

[spring shard]

she looks good at SI 30

[timber cipher]

kinda want your mezoth now because he also gets plenty % stats and you also have t2 gear which stats pr up a lot

like t2 chest is 26 pr atleast,
t2 boots is 10 pr atleast
helmet is some small pr

and weapon too

can you send me a fight with your mezoth, i believe he should take like 0 physical damage (if not hit by phsyical penetration)

like can be anything even if its just one stage in kt, campaign or forked fate and not a full clear

[timber cipher]

yea, shes supposingly good and does plenty in pve with 5 pull - cant say about pvp (prob too slow) - but for like most pve content her 40% dmg buff is nice - her stats are buffed and nice -so cant complain

just a in general slow hero

[mint osprey]

guys

execpt afk arena which other gacha do you play ?

[timber cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/tism-eyes-gif-15088206100719378788

[mint osprey]

🥹

tell me

[vapid lava]

Nothing

[mint osprey]

💀💔

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-puppy-sleeping-going-to-bed-dog-going-to-bed-gif-11495956736830452104

hurting my heart

[civic rampart]

I play life

🗣️

[mint osprey]

🥺 i like games

[vale abyss]

hey hey you can always submit that in #companions-suggestions

[weak blaze]

How do we actually know if You Are Doing something with the suggestions

[stone tapir]

Transcending? There is more than 5 stars?

Can you like screenshot where I can use I don’t really understand I’m kinda new to the game

[sick sorrel]

yes, you have to save your elite (purple) heroes, don’t use them as fodder because you’ll use them in late game to transcend, which is past 5*
to transcend a hero they need to be 5*, and you’ll need 8 copies of them to do it, so 4 elite+ copies

also hi good morning loves how are we doing today

[ebon sand]

Easy! 💪

[sour crag]

Hi

[pine sable]

i am convinced our suggestions channel is just there to vent for companions cos nothing we asked for has been implemented lately… it doesn’t even have the same feature as the classic one

[pine sable]

good morning, kinda meh, wbu?

[pine sable]

nice

[sick sorrel]

same but cause im sleepy lol

[pine sable]

lol same Im also rly tired I slept terribly

and this game pisses me off

[vale abyss]

what do you mean the same feature?

[sour crag]

The comment you should answer 😂✨

[vale abyss]

whoops sorry I replied to the wrong message ahaha

my brain doesnt work well on Sundays

I think I knwo what you mean tho

the YES NO stuff right?

@pine sable

[dusk dragon]

Why didn't it give me it when i made another account 😢

[timber cipher]

yea the YAGPPDB suggestions

[verbal forge]

dam 43-40 was tuff

[worldly gull]

Lol my luck

I'm so proud of this 🤣

[thin iron]

Wtf

[dusk dragon]

I can't even get a single talenE wtfff

[stone tapir]

Ok thank youu

Is this a good maulers line up? The last one would be awakened Brutus

[weak blaze]

Would be yea but u dont have them built

[stone tapir]

I’m planning to build them don’t want to make any mistakes 😀

[weak blaze]

Yea but u will Need the other maulers too anyway

Skraith safiya numisu

Maybe anasta

[sleek field]

Meantime normal brutus would be good for that comp, he has high value even as 1 copy

[stone tapir]

Is namisu good?

[stone tapir]

🫡 ok thank youu

[weak blaze]

Yea hes alright

But more used with gwen

[stone tapir]

🫡

Noted thank you so much

[steel junco]

Anyone got the companions wishlist ?

[stone tapir]

Wait Gwen?

Who is Gwen I don’t see

[weak blaze]

Yea

[stone tapir]

This?

[weak blaze]

Yes

Shes one of the Main carries in campaign

[stone tapir]

Ahhh I see

I’m stuck at chapter 27 my main team is wilder

Should I build lightbearers next?

Or Maulers

[pine sable]

yeah i meant that lol

[weak blaze]

Mauler

[stone tapir]

Ok imma whale on Mauler

Wallet looking thin

[pine sable]

what the helly, nice

[stone tapir]

[pine sable]

check pinned in #companions-questions

[pine sable]

best gb pet

[hollow river]

lol

[stone tapir]

Bruh I’m stuck here

[quick hinge]

Why weak Oden?

[pine sable]

clearly worked so why u judging me?

[quick hinge]

Bc Oden is good

[pine sable]

i didnt build him so i only have one copy

[quick hinge]

Why

[pine sable]

cos poor

[sleek field]

💀

Maybe deficit is too high 🤷‍♂️

[pine sable]

best mauler pet but yeah deficit might be too high, maybe with like 100 retries u can beat it

[sleek field]

It was 4v1 against oku and he outhealed 😂

[sleek field]

Which pet is that?

[pine sable]

for reference look here

im joking about the celestwing lol

also oku is annoying af hes is like mini orhtros on these deficits

[sleek field]

Got ya 😂

Yea he is for real lol

[sleek field]

Cleared it on auto lol, even did 434 as well😂

[pine sable]

ff 44-1 bundle

[sleek field]

Oh nice, when was the previous one?

[pine sable]

idk tbh maybe 41 smth

[sleek field]

Mhm, haven't gotten anything at 41, but maybe 42 🤞

[verbal forge]

u should have made safyia +30 instead of skreg

u will need 2 carries once u hit 450

[pine sable]

Si30 crassio acquired

[pine sable]

might be 42 then yeah idk how often u get these bundles

[sleek field]

Maybe every 2 chapters higher up 🤪

[pine sable]

havent kept track cos progress is so slow anyways

[sleek field]

Skreg is +30 as well

[verbal forge]

u have both +30 ?

[sleek field]

Yes

[verbal forge]

damn bruv u like maulers or something

[sleek field]

Kren too

[runic salmon]

he has more si30 maulers than wilders

[sleek field]

😂

[runic salmon]

#1 mauler fan

[sleek field]

Im working wilders now

[verbal forge]

companions is strange cuz

in clasic graveborn had the most fanboys

i guess this is what missing izold do to a mf

[runic salmon]

reminds me of a dude named izoldfan

[verbal forge]

izold would be actualy broken af here

if they release and dont change anything

well untill we get to a very high defficit

[runic salmon]

i wouldnt mind izold and his skin

its pretty sick

[verbal forge]

graveborn needs a carry tbh most of them are very shit

[sleek field]

i want to know the next dim crossover heroes xD

[runic salmon]

100%

[pine sable]

we have mira dont sleep on her

[runic salmon]

ashemira 🙏

[runic salmon]

she's like the only good one

[verbal forge]

i would say to get the most of the graveborns u need to +30 a5 them

[runic salmon]

all the other ones feel kind of underwhelming

[verbal forge]

like sylas , hodkin

[pine sable]

cant deny that lol

[verbal forge]

i would say oden is better then mira

if u max him

for now one has him

for spenders who are going for hard push he will be so good

[pine sable]

mira is better than him

[verbal forge]

idk i see mira just as a fear bot then dead

u can have both too

pretty sure they kinda would work very weel togheter

[pine sable]

my mira is heavy lifting a lot of the fights as a dps carry

44-24

and she didnt have her si30 there

[verbal forge]

guess depends on the stage but in most clears shes just used for the fear

not for dmg

[pine sable]

using her incorrectly then if u have her ascended high enough she carries stages

tbf i used my duos a0 si20 mira for her marks and fear as well but only cos i didnt have her built that time

[sleek field]

hard push on the gb tower you mean?

[pine sable]

he can be good in campaign as well

[sleek field]

i see

guess both mira and oden need +30 as well

[verbal forge]

oden also i thino once he is maxed he can do a lot of dmg in dream realm

not sure if you care about that

[sleek field]

i make top 10 easily, so unless they change rewards for rank 1, 2, and 3 i cant be asked

plus i i need to do wilders first lol, im only getting SI30 Trishea next Tuesday

[verbal forge]

oden will be even better once they release more relevant gb

[sleek field]

Then i need to do solice

[verbal forge]

current ones are not that shit for campaign

but +30 a5 sylas and hodke is kinda much even for a spender

[sleek field]

getting A5 isnt too problematic, the red emblems are probably better spent elsewhere

[verbal forge]

sylas is a strange one depending on what gb is released

or if alna is released

if alna is released sylas might be meta

pretty strange why they gatekeep alna when they released both lucretia and zaph already

[sleek field]

zaph isnt used much i think

and lucretia isnt gamebreaking

[verbal forge]

no i mean alna zaph and lucretia are old released around the same time

alna a5 will make 2 frontline heroes imune to anything for 7 sec

it will change meta

[sleek field]

oh yea that will be gamechanging for sure lol

[runic salmon]

unless they giga nerf her

[verbal forge]

like alna could make pvp broken af

i think thats why they dont release her

[sleek field]

SJW unkillable for 7 seconds lol

though they can still be cc'ed i assume

[verbal forge]

no

imune to anything

[sleek field]

oh wow

[verbal forge]

thats why alna + crasios was stupid af

in clasic for a while

[sleek field]

right

be funny to put Leonardo and khazard frontline with rowan +30 in backline

no escaping the cc ever lol

[verbal forge]

in theory kinda but they might do somethibg to her

they must have a reason why shes not released yet

[sleek field]

and instead release Kaz lol

[verbal forge]

i kinda dread the day i see alna cuz i have no stargazer left

[sleek field]

and Oscar

[verbal forge]

the useleas shits who are only op as enemies

[runic salmon]

alna is a celestial??

[verbal forge]

for example seirius i think is more cancer then orthos

at high defficit

yes celestial

[sleek field]

Orthrus and Flora on Mauler tower 436 🥹

[verbal forge]

i already dread the stage when i see a seirius in campgain

cant kill that shit sometimes already

[sleek field]

oh yea he tanks waaaaayy too much

same as Oku

[runic salmon]

i hate seirus so much

[verbal forge]

hes way worse then orthos

[sleek field]

Seirius with a Tasi is even worse lol

[verbal forge]

orthos can be burst

seirius gl

be happy theres no ulmus here

cuz i would go crazy

[sleek field]

idk who ulmus is

[verbal forge]

ulmus is pure cancer as enemy

and the most useless hero in the game if u have him

[sleek field]

you know youre reaching the top when youre starting to see Yom and Iperx in the stage info

[verbal forge]

he will proly come here too

since they bring all the useless shits anywah

[sleek field]

of course, they set the trend with Oscar and Kaz lol

[verbal forge]

at least wont be in campaign for a while

[sleek field]

if you see only 5 players in the stage info, does that mean there is only 5 players who have cleared it?

[verbal forge]

yes

if you are whale enough u might not see anything

[sleek field]

Yea thats pioneer territory xD

[verbal forge]

that is actualy interesting becouse u have to use ur brain

most people here dont know how to make teams

[sleek field]

I usualy dont even look at what others use

[verbal forge]

what i see in campaign are mostly basic unoptimal teams

[sleek field]

Takes experience as well to understand team building better

[verbal forge]

most are just brute force pushes by spending

like just luls on stage cuz u have full trans and +30/20 a5

[sleek field]

I think i need high level for 436, cant really put a dent in it lol

[sleek field]

Right, that gets boring very fast though

[verbal forge]

dont try to much 450 is 2 teams

u will be hardstuck after that

[sleek field]

lol

[verbal forge]

i think even spenders will strugle in faction at 2 teams

theres not enough 2 op carries for every faction

yet

[sleek field]

I got almost all maulers 5 star, but yea going to be challenging for sure

but will probably need lvl 390+ for reaching 450 in the first place lol

[verbal forge]

check others

ah u cant more then 2 floors

im at 421 with 389 rc

[sleek field]

im level 370

[verbal forge]

in mauler with just crasio awutus +30

rest are average

[sleek field]

438, lowest level is Iperx with 392

[verbal forge]

id you really want to push jump on pc with macro

thats the only way

[sleek field]

what would the macro do you cant?

[verbal forge]

if i were to macro i would be even high in campaign

[runic salmon]

making teams is such a pain in the ass

[weak blaze]

Where u At in campaign skribu

[verbal forge]

43-41

[weak blaze]

Im waiting for You

[verbal forge]

with just 5 mins retries

i dont see point of macroing here

[sleek field]

Skribu do you remember if you got a red emblem bundle pop up when you reached chapter 42?

[verbal forge]

for now

[weak blaze]

I dont either

[verbal forge]

i get them every chapter

but i dont spend

[sleek field]

oh is every chapter?

[verbal forge]

for non spender proly

but im not sure for you

[sleek field]

oh its different for everyone?

[verbal forge]

ofc

lilith alwaya tryna make plebs spend

i always get bundles for stargazing

[weak blaze]

Werent u f2p

[verbal forge]

i am

thats the point

they spam u witj bundles

to make u spend money

tehnicaly i got a 1 dolar pack for miskha when i started

but that doesnt count

[runic salmon]

[verbal forge]

i mean it was just 1 dolar

and u get a copy of mishka

[runic salmon]

i still need to a5 my mishka

i havent gotten any copies of her the past few weeks

[verbal forge]

it was stupid cuz after i got that dolar pack

i got 5 miskhas in a row

was my first ascended wilder

i think it juat spammed me with miskha copies i had her ready for transc for like 4 months

[pine sable]

who would fall for that (i definitely didnt buy that red emblem bundle i posted earlier)

[sleek field]

i used a legendary+ mishka as fodder when i started lol

[verbal forge]

before i opened the temple

[sleek field]

for a gorvo

[runic salmon]

i used a leg+ thesku

i could have abrutus by now

[verbal forge]

its funny cuz for some reason my lb are lacking af

i think im 1 copy away from a5 awutus

i has thane on wishlish since start

and hes not even at 7 copies

[timber cipher]

btw - I'm not macro-ing and as far as I'm aware neither Y0m is.

[verbal forge]

u should

u will lap these kids very fast

[timber cipher]

You cant.

[verbal forge]

show dominance

wdym u cant ?

u can is very simple

[timber cipher]

Skribu I'm on 46-56

[sleek field]

Sadly not enough for rank 1 😆

[timber cipher]

on over 145+ diff

[verbal forge]

ah is too hard ?

but thats how it was on clasic

[weak blaze]

😂

[verbal forge]

u insta died on start

until u got the perfect rng

its aids but it is what is

[weak blaze]

U Must be ragebaiting skribu hahahaah

[verbal forge]

brother i once macroed a stage on clasic

for 2 daya

until i got the rng

[pine sable]

i have free time but not that much

[timber cipher]

if its as easy just macro here and show us how high you can get

[pine sable]

who tf macros the ults

[timber cipher]

I can tell you that you can't rng stages unless you know matchups

[pine sable]

u wanna insta cast them 99% of the time anyways lmao

[verbal forge]

i cant cuz im working somethign different rng

cant carry 2 laptos with me

i used to have a spare laptop with me for macro

[timber cipher]

why dont just multi-instance?

you can have 2 vms

[verbal forge]

tbh i just dont want to do it anymore

[runic salmon]

spare laptop to macro afk arena is crazy

[verbal forge]

i did that for 3 years

like i guys dont know what it took to push clasic

[weak blaze]

Im convinced, skribu is just ragebaiting us

[timber cipher]

Skribu there is a difference between not wanting to and not being able to do aswell.

Even if you'd its not as easy as you make it sound.

[verbal forge]

bro all thing with macro is just have to stay on

and check the stage when theres problems

its not fun

its just very aids

[timber cipher]

quote jd

[timber cipher]

Yea you mention it you'll have plenty problems if you're at the forefront of campaign with nobody to copy.

[verbal forge]

jd didnt try to brute force here , i might try when i get stuck

[timber cipher]

You're stuck

[verbal forge]

i mean if you are legit first yes

u have to use ur brain

[timber cipher]

Me and Y0m are, yes.

[verbal forge]

yeah it will take some times cuz u have to macro

every stage singulae

and check like every 10 mins or so

[timber cipher]

no - you're wrong about that

[sleek field]

where is the fun in that though

[verbal forge]

is not fun

[timber cipher]

You can't figure out by autoplaying 10min and retrying

you have to watch and figure out hero matchups to know whats wrong

[sleek field]

now you pick your brain to see what works and what needs to be tweaked

and build up your knowledge and experience

[timber cipher]

We do not have broken relics

that enable heroes

as you think they'd

even positioning a hero up or down matters 10x more than in classic

[verbal forge]

u watch a stage for example after u made a comp for 5-10 mins no autoplay

see how far u get

[timber cipher]

is wrong

you do say it for "copy-stealing" comps from others

that already have a working clear

[verbal forge]

thats the only u kinda push tho same as doing from a phone

u retry until something gets close to winning

but as u said u are at 140+ defficit

i cant imagine doing that from a phone

[sleek field]

why not?

[verbal forge]

becouse it feels like ass

mindless retries

u couldnt even do that on clasic before game would ram leak

and close

i didint try here doing it for 30 mins+ i cant say

[timber cipher]

i can just say that you're wrong with 1-to-1 comparisons between classic and companions

anyone fr playing classic understand it aswell that powerscaling is different and meta is a lot different aswell

and its not just a "URRGH lets brainlessly try thoran cheese till duras artifcat + lucky sruvive make him do a perfect counter win"

[verbal forge]

game is not that different barring artifacts is still rng fiesta

[timber cipher]

sjw is pretty dumb op with his untargetability tho

[verbal forge]

its just even more rng

[timber cipher]

it is

artifacts made comps consistently broken

[pine sable]

shits pissing me off in PVP

[timber cipher]

thats why you were able to bruteforce the same comps in classic

and didnt have to adjust a lot

[verbal forge]

i cant say for u cuz i didint have make full comos

[timber cipher]

if i can make a mehira insta cast

[verbal forge]

just twists here and there

[timber cipher]

then its obviously free

[verbal forge]

but if you copy viable comps even here u can easly macro

[sleek field]

100%

[verbal forge]

im talkin for a average player

like in the f2p line

[pine sable]

dropped from 2nd to 7th this morning cos someone burger flipped his sjw and won

[verbal forge]

yes making comps and macroing is ofc harder

[timber cipher]

yea i dont disagree on that - but even for that you dont need a macro - most stuff you can copy in 15min and adjust

[verbal forge]

but why do that when u can macro

[timber cipher]

some comps like gwyneth are worst

[verbal forge]

thats what im saying

[pine sable]

preach

[sleek field]

Luckily im still top dog here and no one can beat me, but earlier on definitely the flip a coin and who wins lol

[pine sable]

i chose gladiator arena out of spite this week

[verbal forge]

i just dont see a reason to push for now that hard here

[timber cipher]

because you dont have every unit build as a non-whale and maybe want to adjust and move your lyca somwhere else and try a mishka somewhere instead of it

bc its the future

[verbal forge]

once we have a misty valley or some shit

[pine sable]

then can try beating my a5 brutus and si30 crassio i got today and my full tran wilders lmao

[verbal forge]

migjt be usefull to push

thats why i even pushed in clasic

for misty rewards

i legit hope u guys dont have to retry stages 2 days

dont wish that shit for nobody

@thin portal do u remember the izold stages ?

[thin portal]

When izold charm was meta

That was sooooooo bad

[lusty plank]

[iron viper]

[lusty plank]

Uhhh I think my game had a stroke lol

48M

[weak blaze]

hahah

[lusty plank]

Yo. Daimon to SI 10 yay or nay?

[weak blaze]

what chapter u at

[lusty plank]

Almost 42

[weak blaze]

no

[lusty plank]

I’m just lazy

I’ve been taking your advice with the SIs

[weak blaze]

hes only good for gb tower

[lusty plank]

So far very good

[lusty plank]

Thought so

Good to know

Ig i’ll save for now

[weak blaze]

always a pleasure🫶

well i heard at T1-2 he gets good again

[lusty plank]

I’m gonna be at my 5th SI 30 soon

I wonder if i’ll just hoard

[weak blaze]

want general advice or why the picture

[lusty plank]

Or go experimental mode on Crassio

[weak blaze]

just did my 10th 5 min ago

[lusty plank]

That’s insane, all those stargazers I focused on ended up ruining my account

I could have been at 8 or 9

Like Skribu

[weak blaze]

well that was the general advice

i just decided to trust my gut

no mistake from u imo

my thought process is simple

[lusty plank]

Yeah honestly I thought stargazers would end up paying off

With a must have hero down the line

But now I pivoted to SIs

[runic salmon]

whats the avg amount of pulls for 2 a5 dims?

[lusty plank]

Like 1500 maybe

[weak blaze]

i was sure that before or a little after they release a broken celehypo they would reduce the cost or availlablity of sg because f2ps would go crazy

[lusty plank]

I hope so

[weak blaze]

1200?

not sure

[lusty plank]

I still have 500 cards

[lusty plank]

I did 1100
Got SJW to A5
And have 14 unused souls

[weak blaze]

yea look i have 0

[lusty plank]

I could take Talene to a5 but idk

I will play the long game

[weak blaze]

sounds unlucky

[lusty plank]

She’s close to useless on classic for example

Time will tell

[weak blaze]

yea but classic doesnt have modes with death limits

[lusty plank]

How come? I had some crazy good rates at the start

[lusty plank]

FF?

[weak blaze]

i didnt calculate it it just sounds like tha

[weak blaze]

yea

how much did u save for next dim event

i have 120k diamonds and 300 scrolls

[runic salmon]

i only have 410 spins for the next dim event

[weak blaze]

thats good for your server

[runic salmon]

might be cooked

[runic salmon]

i made some accidental purchases

[lusty plank]

40k dias and 210 scrolls rn

Idk how ur already at 120k

I can’t gain diamonds fast enough

[runic salmon]

i think im at 70k dias and 200 scrolls

[weak blaze]

idk i started saving mid event from last dims

[weak blaze]

well around 10k from arena weekly

[lusty plank]

I need more of those adventure packs to come out

[weak blaze]

500-1000 from expedition

[lusty plank]

$20 for 45000

[weak blaze]

haha i didnt even buy that

[weak blaze]

wtf

[lusty plank]

I used the first one for Trishea 😢

[lusty plank]

🐳

[weak blaze]

yo do you understand the comp i sent sailus?

[maiden hare]

?

[weak blaze]

in the line up chat

[maiden hare]

I don't think you will be able to kill grezhul with a lucius with that

to much shield

[weak blaze]

i genuinely dont even understand the comp structure

[maiden hare]

considering shalltear will focus backline heroes with her passive

[weak blaze]

is mira the carry is shalltear it

idk i need to ask iperx for a proper explanation

[maiden hare]

you made that comp or copied it?

[weak blaze]

its from iperx guide

[maiden hare]

ah yeah that comp is for more squishy enemies

[weak blaze]

i believe he once said it works against anything and they just use it against hard enemies

[maiden hare]

well iperx has si30 mira

[weak blaze]

ah okay then i prob missunderstood or smth

[maiden hare]

it does boost her dmg in campaign by a lot

in your comp she won't do that much so shalltear is the main carry

[weak blaze]

but she just dies pretty quickly

[maiden hare]

and she cant kill grezhul+lucius

[weak blaze]

okay i see

ill use it against another team then

yo btw how come your kinda si enemy

i feel like i always see u saying that we invest into too minor chars

[maiden hare]

because you focus on the most useless mode in the game

[weary dove]

just need to follow the bosses guides 😎

[weak blaze]

U r telling me this is Overkill

[maiden hare]

campaign doesn't get you anything, I know some freaks like to push it but like you get ZERO benefits from being chapter 46 or chapter 40

[runic salmon]

freaks is crazy

[maiden hare]

maybe if the release that event where you unlock more rewards depending on your campaign progression it will change but for now campaign is the "useless" mode

rewards-wise

[weak blaze]

okay let me get this straight

[maiden hare]

why overkill, it looks good expect that si30 rowan
edit: and si20 brutus/hodgkin

[runic salmon]

i kinda want that misty valley thing classics has on companions

that would give me a reason to push campaign

[weak blaze]

i usually get top 5 in arena so in your opinion would be to focus on heros that carry DR?

[maiden hare]

same

[weak blaze]

did u do that tierlist maker si guide back in the day

[iron viper]

[weak blaze]

in it there was hodgekin as high prio si20 and i was already done with everyone else there

i regret it myself

[maiden hare]

I never had rowans si30 high prio

wait I need to look for that hodgkin

[weak blaze]

and brutus is from back in the day i loved him a year ago

[weary dove]

Is hodgekin good?

[weak blaze]

no that was me

[maiden hare]

I mean he was used in PVP a lot back then but I don't think I had him at high prio ever

[weak blaze]

well if u did that i can assure u he was im certain

i wouldnt have built him otherwise

[maiden hare]

that was the first SI guide
edit: gonna delete it so people don't upgrade SI on those heroes it's a old guide

[weak blaze]

no not that one

[maiden hare]

where hodgkin

[weary dove]

Sailus copy cat maybe

[weak blaze]

from Tierlist maker

this type of guide

i think it was the first ever si guide

[runic salmon]

fake tierlist to get rid of competition

[maiden hare]

I don't remember ever doing that 😂

[weak blaze]

i did rowan btw as my first si30 before solise was out and back then he helped alot. i did him bcs i checked a classic tierlist and there rowan was the only hero we had availlable still up there

[maiden hare]

I did that one

[weak blaze]

no

[maiden hare]

before I started working on that Excel one

[weak blaze]

even older i believe

just 3 rows

[maiden hare]

I didn't posted anything before that brother

[weak blaze]

high prio mid prio low prio

then it wasnt from u bro

i never said it was from u

[maiden hare]

ahh

yeah don't listen to some bonobos

[weak blaze]

dont u know which one i mean?

[maiden hare]

no I have no idea

[weak blaze]

ill see if i can find it

[maiden hare]

there was some SI-Tierlist here in this discord

pinned in the questions

[lusty plank]

@weak blaze this one is a goated new acc pusher, I think they’re only a small spender btw

[maiden hare]

but that was cap even then

[iron viper]

Here

[lusty plank]

I use their formations

[maiden hare]

I just pushed campaign from 42 to 43 and I copied all teams from this dude

and changed some comps myself because he doesn't have albedo/shalltear

so I get 5 teams that win and have free albedo/shalltear

win-win

[runic salmon]

si30 daimon

[lusty plank]

Yeah he’s a high iq team builder

[weary dove]

Really?

[lusty plank]

Doing God’s work

[weak blaze]

couldnt find it

[weak blaze]

crazy dude

[maiden hare]

oh f.. you found out the forbidden master prio hodgkin si30 monster 👀

[weak blaze]

anyway he literally insta died even at chpt 40

[weak blaze]

i knew it....

[maiden hare]

yeah, wanted to copy iperx teams but I can't find them anywhere

[weak blaze]

his teams are obv p2w anyway

sometimes i get them recommended but no chance at rebuilding them anyway

[maiden hare]

it wasn't so bad back then

in chapter 43

[weak blaze]

yea possiblr

[weary dove]

Copy his iprexf2p teams

[weak blaze]

hes higher than his f2p

[weary dove]

Ive never seen his main account what chapter is he on?

[maiden hare]

46

[weary dove]

Oh damn, 7 chapters ahead of me 🥹

[maiden hare]

oh also I think you have 5 teams starting from chapter 40

[weak blaze]

did u answer this one sailus?

[maiden hare]

if my memory serves me right

[weary dove]

😭😭 im not ready

[weak blaze]

you will never be reeady

without all dims its even worse

[weary dove]

Yeah s190 is behind on dims

[maiden hare]

always try to focus on heroes that are great here and there but what you focus on more specific is for you to decide, both modes have a future more modes potential so hard to say

I would say DR gets you more rewards now

if you are already top5/10 arena no point in investing more for now

[weak blaze]

do you perchance know who im lacking for dr im barely not getting top 30