companions-chat

[kindred cliff]

literally everybody else says its accurate

and about what they get on average

just cause its not your account average doesnt mean its not average generally

[timber cipher]

Well we work what lilith puts in, if lilith riggs it to be worse than thats their doing.

Our math is not 50 Accounts

Its one million tries

[magic tree]

You can make 1 million or 1 billion attempts on calculation software, yet if the formula is wrong it doesn't matter

[timber cipher]

Then look at the formula/code and tell me where the math is off

Its open source

2 git libaries

[kindred cliff]

so i guess every persons testimony in the game, a professional formula, which is a very basic thing to do, is less superior than your single experience right

everyone else that got those averages is wrong

[magic tree]

Lol

Idc tbh. Just saying.

[kindred cliff]

it just doesnt make sense, its not a difficult formula

[lusty plank]

🍿

[hollow flume]

+1

[magic tree]

So, you average 16 pulls in 400 cards means 1 drop every 36 cards outside milestones.

Which is, VERY unlikely

[timber cipher]

No

The formula adds +1 Soul at milestones

[magic tree]

I get it. 16 average = 11 drops and 5 milestones

[timber cipher]

So it doesnt expect 1drop every 36

Yes.

[magic tree]

So in 400, that leaves on avg 11 actual drops

[timber cipher]

Yes

[magic tree]

Which on avg is 1 per 36

Which is simply off.

[bright ivy]

guys, how does this event work?

[ebon sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmsKulCqCLQ

[hollow river]

Hey yom

[lusty plank]

You get to perform as many summons as you want until you get a 10 pull you’re satisfied with

Then you lock in the result

And claim

[ebon sand]

HiHi

[bright ivy]

thank you

[lusty plank]

[hollow river]

Are you ready for collab

[ebon sand]

yeah I am, well I won't have a finished char day 1 but I'm ready to pull

[hollow river]

Me too

I’ve been waiting so long to pull I just hope I can get lucky

[obtuse jay]

Arre they gonna be good? I saved like 400k dias now and 400 scroll

[hollow river]

Sung Jin woo is good but cha seems to be bad

[left charm]

Side note; dim event gives 6752 diamonds, 5 SG, 50 destiny scrolls, 18 pet scrolls, 3 spirits (incl free from dim deals shop) and the usual random filler rewards by my count

[hollow river]

Thanks

[left charm]

yw sir

[obtuse jay]

I read she got nerfed but hopefully not too bad. Maybe I'll build ainz instead if she is

[ebon sand]

how's your Albedo? don't bother with Ainz if your Bedo is just soso, the second she dies, so does Ainz, basically.

[obtuse jay]

My only built dim is shalt

Probably going to do albedo tmrw

I got like 30 spirits saved I think

[hollow river]

Nice

[kindred cliff]

@magic tree so you would stop stressing😂

[left charm]

[timber cipher]

@magic tree - am currently at work

but yea your mistake/flaw is that you expect 60 = pull and milestone = pull

and everything higher than 60 is for you already unlikely

tho what you dont see is that you have already 2% odds which is 50 = pull, which can't be worse than 60 because of the pity

and because of the pity you can obviously pull pre 60

imagine you pulls 60 cards and get a copy after 45 draws
then the odds reset

-- i completly get what you mean an my avg with lilith is most of the time inbetween 47-52 pulls per summon and not 36

buf if we look at your 4 summons for 120 draws you kinda got an avg of 30
which idk if you would believe me or not but 30 is less than 36 - so at those pulls you beat the odds even higher.

does it mean you should expect it - thats up to you, its just an avg of the math

if you want to be pessimistic the calc always shows the min, so you can always just take the min and be prepared for the worst.

[mint osprey]

by any chance law related job ?

[timber cipher]

rng = rng so lets not be madge about it and correct the math where we are wrong

[timber cipher]

in my last company kinda, but not really

[mint osprey]

the way you write reminds me a lot of the exercises I do in law school. with paragraphs that follow one another.

[hollow river]

He’s just a smart guy

[pine sable]

its for better reading experience, so he structures it especially if the paragraph is longer, helps a lot ngl

[mint osprey]

true true

They way he write made me think of this

[timber cipher]

@magic tree visualisation of it - first try ended up being 15

have fun with it

as you can see, the pity counter gets resets on sucessful pulls - so no there is no math error

its just math or lilith slightly rigging odds against us if we're far off the avg and nobody ever gets "lucky"

[maiden hare]

this is a better visualization to get it, you have an 8% chance to have those 16 souls in 300 pulls WHICH is still a pretty small chance, it's just much higher than the rest because of the milestones, your second most likely spike would be around 500 which most of the players will land on too

I tested my math and my calculator with a few people last time and the results were as excepted, but I had too few test-persons to really compare anything last time

[maiden hare]

and I feel like the 2% we have in-game aren't really 2%

[novel pebble]

[timber cipher]

Yea that sometime just feels that way

[hollow river]

Oh @maiden hare you don’t need to make that guide I asked if you could make we found an alternative way to direct new people

[gray harbor]

Wow they trolled me with this “update” … with no dims in sight 😂😂😂

[hollow river]

It’s on reset

[maiden hare]

Not planned the one that is here is still pretty much up to date

[hollow river]

Yeah we found a different way to direct the new players thanks to ianne it’s just a lot of people where doing things in the shop wrong with there purchases

[brittle flame]

Looking for someone to start a new account in the upcoming server maybe even an guild if there are enough people (dm me if ur interested

[bronze heart]

hello guys who would be better for this squad ?

[twin marsh]

Laios has good synergy with Marci, but I think jinwoo will be good

[bronze heart]

thnx for answer

[timber cipher]

yea thanks to the +40 and e30 squished inbetween like jinwoo seems really really good if you can get him going

[tawdry linden]

So what char is worth for a5?

[timber cipher]

dreaf

[twin marsh]

[timber cipher]

if feel like people dont want to read, just spam ask and hope they get a reply

[twin marsh]

By the way, did you see chae?

Feels really underwhelming so far

[timber cipher]

her trails +30 with sjw in duo did almost the same

and that is without haste stacking

(in a 2v5) iirc from screens - so if you can pair cha up with sjw it didnt seem that bad because for the first 10s she can be hasted af

[twin marsh]

Hmm I see

I can’t see her being higher prio than him tho, especially since part of her kit relies on him

[dusk dragon]

Hi

[uneven sentinel]

hello

[dusk dragon]

Stfu

Hi

[uneven sentinel]

wow.

[vital pond]

Ballista hmm

[dusk dragon]

Who r u

[uneven sentinel]

WAIT KRISFON??

[vagrant igloo]

WOOOW

[dusk dragon]

Who tf

[uneven sentinel]

NO WAY

[vital pond]

[dusk dragon]

Hi kristoff

[vital pond]

First time seeimg you guys here

[vagrant igloo]

We're shy

[dusk dragon]

I didn't even know this chat existed g g

[vital pond]

Im just here to be updated. people here know everything.

[uneven sentinel]

fair enough

[dusk dragon]

I know everything too trust

[uneven sentinel]

i come in here to check relevant info from time to time too

[vital pond]

[whole crane]

bro where is the units?

still not out

[dusk dragon]

I'm hiding em

[whole crane]

💀

bro im supposed to record video for this update

XD

where they at

[dusk dragon]

I'll release them soon dw

[vital pond]

Good to see some familiar names here

[dusk dragon]

Lil bit of technical difficulties but I'll talk to Lilith trust

They're my emergency contact

We are like this 🤞

[whole crane]

https://tenor.com/view/boring-unimpressed-meh-really-seriously-gif-14535559521008289405

[uneven sentinel]

he ain't cappin bro trust

lulu's very known around the hood

[vagrant igloo]

She controls the hood

[dusk dragon]

Yee exactly people come to me for atp everythig

[dusk dragon]

I AM the hood

[vagrant igloo]

Lulu is knowledge reincarnated

[timber cipher]

yea a bit rough on that part but tbf. if we have one char close to shalltears power level then thats plenty already to focus on

[mint osprey]

hey

[vapid lava]

Reset

[mint osprey]

2h

[inland flame]

Are the new heroes strong or no

[vapid lava]

Jinwoo seems pretty good

[mint osprey]

1hour💔

[twin marsh]

Idk if I’m gonna make it

Almost falling sleep already

[vapid lava]

I'll ping you when we're live

[twilit solar]

Me too

[silent ravine]

Did they straight up gut her to be unplayable?

[hollow river]

She seems to die instantly so yeah

[mint osprey]

3min

[mint osprey]

ure not from brasil ?

[mint osprey]

wdym live ? like streaming ?

[vapid lava]

When dims are live

Like at reset

[mint osprey]

ooooh

2min

i'm so excited

[shy pulsar]

the opposite is true in classic, shes the good one, jinwoo just exists to buff her

[mint osprey]

idk why they nerfed her

can they buff her later on ?

[shy pulsar]

how bad are the multi nerfs

[mint osprey]

or once a hero is released they just let it go

[vapid lava]

Wake up it's time

[mint osprey]

1min

[vapid lava]

Nerfed dmg by 2000+%

[mint osprey]

they can't buff her later on ?

[shy pulsar]

💀

aint no way it was that bad

does she at least get her e60

[twin marsh]

Yeah, but I’m living in Germany

[twin marsh]

[mint osprey]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

q isso mano

why u in germany

what happened to you

[plain geyser]

which collab unit to go first

[twilit solar]

So guys I should pick SJW from the chest?

[hollow river]

Yeah most likely or you can wait for testing

[twilit solar]

okay

[twin marsh]

Lmao 😭

Im studying here

[plain geyser]

how do i get a copy of both units without paying?

[twilit solar]

You get two chests and from one you pick sjw and from the other you pick cha

[plain geyser]

ah i see on day 7 is the second chest ok thanks

[covert hawk]

lucky streak lmao

[twilit solar]

[twin marsh]

Goat

[covert hawk]

[wet sluice]

who do we ascend first

[inland flame]

I got 22 in 940 without the free ones and the milestones

[twin marsh]

My luck has been horrendous holy shit

[wet sluice]

same

[gray harbor]

Im so ready

[plain geyser]

22 spirits in 940 pulls?

[torpid sierra]

which hero do i put my spirits in?
new ones or shalltear i have her on mythic or ainz ?
or laos

[pine sable]

@timber cipher can u do some maths for me? 30 out of 1210 pulls good or bad?

[twin marsh]

Not a single double in 840 pulls

I’ll kill myself Lilith

[fickle sierra]

How is everyone's luck so far?!?

[twin marsh]

Horrible

[fickle sierra]

Mine was...underwhelming

[pine sable]

[pine sable]

no double in over 1.2k so u got 400 more to beat me

[wet sluice]

whos stronger?

ino

[pine sable]

jinwoo it looks like currently wait for testing if u wanna know

[wet sluice]

its the opposite in classic it seems

interesting

[feral lion]

This is worth settling for in the pull event right?

Skin + Talene

[vagrant igloo]

21 on 800

[twin marsh]

Good shit man

Lmk what you think of her

[pine sable]

sure imma test her in dr

[quick hinge]

Weak as always crown

[shrewd schooner]

jiwo or cha?

[balmy lance]

jiwo i have cha and seems like jin woo is better

[shrewd schooner]

okey, tks ❤️

[inland flame]

Who should I go for

[vapid lava]

Ive done it somehow

[twin marsh]

My jinwoo is getting ran through in tower

[vapid lava]

Hmm

I have the copies

Maybe I won't

Hmm

[inland flame]

Jinwoo or marcille ?

[vapid lava]

Wait for testing im not sure

[pine sable]

why am i getting hated on

[quick hinge]

I hate on everyone

[pine sable]

fair enough

[grand tundra]

well..

[sour crag]

So Jin is better in pvp right? 🥺🪷✨

[oblique trellis]

Is rowan good

I havr him level 140

[pine sable]

hes very good yeah

[pine sable]

i got no clue man hes been out for not even 2hrs

[sour crag]

Yes with sig20 he's ok

[sour crag]

Kk I'm so excited 😆✨

[floral perch]

so whats the judgement on the new dims?

so far as i can see a bit lackluster i dont really know the numbers but cha's thing looks great against bosses until i saw that one effect needs the last boss to die

which does not happen in boss fights

[weary ore]

Jin woo seems good

[pine sable]

so dims still get blasted by wilders when i used them with

owl and instead of laios, they just got wiped

[timber cipher]

30 is not right, 33 is the least you could've gotten.

[fair hinge]

jin woo or cha hae in guys

[pine sable]

u want a ss lol

[timber cipher]

will check the milestones soon, maybe they're different from overlord

[pine sable]

lol

33 is the least i couldve gotten bro said

did i just get MEGA scammed

i didnt count milestones btw this is just pulls

[main pasture]

If he is also calculating the milestone then you got 30+12 spirits

[pine sable]

dunno if thats the case in the calculations

[timber cipher]

yea its probably not including milestones

[main pasture]

If thats the case it seems like it was a little bit below the average

[pine sable]

ofc i got scammed

below average my ass fk lilith

[twin marsh]

Where do you see this

[timber cipher]

it'd 60, 120, 180, 240, 300, 500, 580, 660, 740, 820, 1100, 1200

so 30+12

[twin marsh]

Wanna check how bad my luck was

[pine sable]

then its still one less than minimum

wat da fak

[timber cipher]

so you got 42 souls which is above min and below the 46 /avg)

[pine sable]

yeah so ass

hell yeah

[timber cipher]

its not ass min is 33

you're 9 above min

and 4 off avg

i think the reason why avg might be slightly off as montes already implied

that we do have an upper bottleneck and it'd be impossible for us to do the max draw of 71

[pine sable]

yeah my brain is fried after pulling for 10min straight i was like 30+12=32 haha

[timber cipher]

like for example that you can only get up to 2 heroes each xyz pulls

[pine sable]

[mint osprey]

omg is he ass ?

[timber cipher]

"I'll walk alone"

[ebon sand]

Idk just doing the trial

but I thought it was funny

[pine sable]

ohh i see yeah makes sense then, still kinda bad pull luck

[inland wigeon]

Hi

Im new and i joined because i saw that theres an ongoing "unlimited pull" event? I was wondering who are the best to pick up

[timber cipher]

so lilith counts only pulls from direct cards, not the extra milestones - be aware of that in the support portal

[timber cipher]

1 skin + 2 celestials/hypogean, have fun spamming 1000 times

[inland wigeon]

Skin??? U can get skins there? Huh

[pine sable]

ik that thats why i wanted to know how good/bad my luck was

[covert hawk]

[ebon sand]

I guess each fights will give wildly different results

[twin marsh]

Wtf did they do to walker

[timber cipher]

walker deals increased dmg based on crits

[pine sable]

i got lyca+talene and im ready to settle for that i will wait til the end and try a few more times but i dont think i want anything else anyways

[timber cipher]

its like pulling cards

he gets dmg amp by continuesly critting

walker challenges your rng

[pine sable]

who doesnt love gambling when we are playing a gacha anyways

[floral perch]

ah noted so walker will never work for me

[timber cipher]

btw crown you also got from the free deals +2 souls

so you got so far 30+12+2

[inland wigeon]

Is there a tierlist for this gane

[pine sable]

didnt count these i also already bought some bundles lol

[pine sable]

check pinned in questions chat

[inland wigeon]

Ty

[vague mango]

I got 15 spirit in 66x10 pulls, is it good?

[inland wigeon]

#companions-questions I

[ebon sand]

damn, they both ulted so quick in that one, I've set the speed to x0 and the girl ulted right away with sung right after her

[mint osprey]

he ass💔

[covert hawk]

[timber cipher]

mf i cant tell if you guys dont provide info what you did

do you count the +2 from the free rewards
do you count the milestones

or only the 15 from 660 pulls straight with no milestone no nothing?

like if everyone counts differently calc it yourselfs

[vague mango]

No only 16 from 660 pulls straight

15*

[timber cipher]

well pity is 60 so 11

you're 4 above pity

[vague mango]

Oh nice

Thx

[mint osprey]

wait

[ebon sand]

I really dig jinwoo vfx when he ults

[twin marsh]

Same

[mint osprey]

i got shaft 💔? @timber cipher i got 16 spirit total

[twin marsh]

The issue is he always dies before he ults

[timber cipher]

rng generator

[cold current]

Just got 20 spirits from 860 summons, plus 2 that I already had and 10 from milestones

Yeah, I don't think I can a5 both of them, but we'll see

[pine sable]

cant relate

[cold current]

Got 1 double tho

[twin marsh]

Btw where is this

[cold current]

How many you got? Probably got ascended both of them already

[timber cipher]

30/34 avg

[bright ivy]

This is without milestones?

[cold current]

Oh really

[timber cipher]

might have to add a max to our formula because it obscurifies our math, but idk what the max would be lmao because lilith doesn't give that free info

[timber cipher]

this is with milestones for 860

[alpine saffron]

33, 980 summons + milestones

[twin marsh]

Dude

[cold current]

Bro I was getting like 1 spirit per 50-60 summons

[timber cipher]

19 + milestones + 2 free

[pine sable]

thats ass

[timber cipher]

yes 50 is the normal 2% odds

[cold current]

30-34 average is with milestones?

[twin marsh]

That’s awful, no?

[bright ivy]

Do you think they will fix the drop rate?

[cold current]

I forgot how miserable it was

[alpine saffron]

Who we prioritizing for upgrades? Or I can T1 some

[cold current]

Felt like I was doing stargazing

[timber cipher]

you're 3 above min

[cold current]

Well, it's not like it's broken

So why, they didn't do it previously

[ebon sand]

time to go to work, I'll pull later, leave some for me guys!

[cold current]

See ya

[pine sable]

u got work at 4am? o7 buddy

[bright ivy]

If it's the same then fine

[timber cipher]

i can only tell you the thing that our random generator does is random events in 1mil+ retries f.e.

[mint osprey]

could u try for me please

[cold current]

It's 7am for me, I woke up early just to summon this shi

[timber cipher]

so the thing is we haven o max limit set and sometimes get one run with 50 pulls f.e.

[ebon sand]

yeah 2nd morning shift I'm wasted, tommorow afternoon one it'll be better

[timber cipher]

and the avg gets obscured if there is an upper limit to it

[timber cipher]

if you give your numbers

[bright ivy]

850

[pine sable]

alright, u got this, sending u some positive energy and gl for ur pulls later

[cold current]

Well, I still have my main acc, but I have the same amount of summons there

[cold current]

Maybe I'll pull more somehow

[ebon sand]

TYVM!! I'll take it, I need it xD

[floral perch]

i dont think rng likes me

i got 1 every 60 pulls

[timber cipher]

here is 430 puills avg 17 you got 16, good for you

[floral perch]

literally just before i hit pity i pull 1 each time XD

[twin marsh]

Same 💔

[vapid lava]

@timber cipher Here, I am your balancing data set. 21 souls in 511 pulls

[mint osprey]

considering the free ones ? u get from pulling and event ?

[floral perch]

imma not continue pulling and make a deal with a demon or something

[timber cipher]

24min, 34avg

[timber cipher]

no not considering the free +2

only considering the milestones

[twin marsh]

Didn’t they give us a few souls in the mail last time?

[mint osprey]

damn i got shaft

💔🥲

[timber cipher]

min 14, avg 20, pulled 21

first person above avg, gz!

[vapid lava]

Let's go! I think i may just build both of them then

[twin marsh]

Wishing you all the worst luck in your next summons…

[vapid lava]

Guys stop pestering @timber cipher so he can test for us

[vapid lava]

Thank you. Same to you o7

[timber cipher]

im only awake because im sneezing all the time i usally need to sleep rn lmao

[vapid lava]

Did you pull ?

[twin marsh]

Chill I need to catch a break

[timber cipher]

no

[timber cipher]

i did that so far

1 good skin + 1 hypo atm

[vapid lava]

Whales in my region talking mad shit about the character

Yeah im going for Skraith skin + talene + something

[twin marsh]

Does Albedo M and A3 make a big difference? @timber cipher

[timber cipher]

I'd say so.

[twin marsh]

I might just ignore Cha then

[timber cipher]

If you want her to guard heroes her a3 is good and gives her more survivability

[mint osprey]

take this or wait for lyca skin ?

[twin marsh]

I see, hopefully Cha isn’t a big deal then

[timber cipher]

depends on what you want

if you want lyca skin you can save it for now /// record it and continue when you havethe time to do so and give up if you dont get anything better

[mint dove]

guys
any sever release today ?
( asking for a friend )
highly appreciate

[mint osprey]

I want Talene + Lyca Skin + (optional : Trishea)

[vague mango]

U can reroll ig there is a month for rerolling :p

[vapid lava]

@twin marsh I need to be held back

The store

[weak blaze]

@timber cipher i had 28 in 910 pulls

I feel Like That was horrible

[vapid lava]

Yes that's below avg

Pretty sure

[left charm]

Pretty happy

[weak blaze]

Not one Double and a Lot of Pity

[vapid lava]

How do I do that sir

[left charm]

Support -> recruitment history

[vapid lava]

Ty

[left charm]

yw :)

[timber cipher]

3 above min

[weak blaze]

That Looks wrong

[weak blaze]

Wow

[timber cipher]

the support page doesn't show milestone rewards

[left charm]

😭

[weak blaze]

They really f ed me did they

[mint osprey]

everyone say SJW is weak asf

im scared

[timber cipher]

welp the thing is i personally calc with 47-52 for each soul aswell

that implies to us that there is a hidden upper limit for draws

like montes and sailus said, it feels that way

but the math is not wrong with what lilith publically give us

[vapid lava]

Insane

[left charm]

I mean it's almost bang on the "average" since around 1 every 50 but no one wants average

[left charm]

we want stuff like this lol

[weak blaze]

Wtf man

I saved 900 f2p for them to pull my pants down

[vapid lava]

They literally fucked you

[left charm]

beat me on luck by such a narrow margin

[timber cipher]

o lmao

[weak blaze]

And do me raw

[vapid lava]

Whew just barely

[vapid lava]

Let's goo

[left charm]

[vapid lava]

Ahaha

[twin marsh]

I was about to spend too

[timber cipher]

lilith i need an auto pull qol that automatically combines fodder

[vapid lava]

No dont say that

[twin marsh]

But seeing everyone but me get above average rates convinced me otherwise

[vapid lava]

Imma do it then

[twin marsh]

Fuck this game

[vapid lava]

Whew

[pine sable]

ignore the pet, their damage at si20 is meh for bosses it looks like

[weak blaze]

I agree

[timber cipher]

tbf there were like 5-6 people below avg

[left charm]

real filled box 2.5 times

[twin marsh]

Man I got 19 in 970 summons

That’s like only 3 that didn’t come from pity

[timber cipher]

when lilith gives ya lemons

[twin marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-accepting-fate-tiktok-at-peace-gif-567488341419321713

[inland wigeon]

Are yhe collab units good?

[timber cipher]

rng is sadge thats why we have the min in it

[inland wigeon]

Whose better

[vapid lava]

We may never know with the rates here

Well i may

[twin marsh]

[vapid lava]

Jpkes

[twin marsh]

Jinwoo’s +30 should be the big thing for him

[vapid lava]

I only have 50k diamonds and then

For cha

I would need to spend how much ya think

[twin marsh]

Idk

There’s still a month let

[vapid lava]

I should probably pull out my calc

Yeah

[twin marsh]

You got any souls left?

[vapid lava]

No need to be impatient

[vapid lava]

I only pulled 23

Well 21

[pine sable]

ye ik thats why i said at si20 it looks ass, i think si30 is a big deal for both of them cos cha hae also gets a buff based on allies surviving which is the case in bosses

[timber cipher]

i love like how 80% of people were like "yea lets be smart about it"

fking 2am reset hiatous - everything is burning - who is better - pulls rng

[pine sable]

listen mate i didnt save 1.2k pulls for 2 months to not a5 both of them instantly lmao

[left charm]

we're gacha gamers, we shouldn't expect diferent

[quick hinge]

U maxed yet?

[vapid lava]

Yeah fuck it why not everyone was burning lol 😆

[timber cipher]

fair, but like idk how we can implement to "max" that lilith uses to limit - so people wont be sadge by seeing slightly below avg amounts

[pine sable]

i have been rerolling the unlimited stuff for 30min+ my fingers hurt

[timber cipher]

i pull slow im grandpa

i wasnt even supposed to be up but my nose is running

[left charm]

you have a month bruh don't get carpal tunnel

[quick hinge]

Why u always dying

[pine sable]

6x speed is da way

[timber cipher]

not dying idk why allergie is badge tonight

[pine sable]

nono its gotta be now trust me its VERY important

[quick hinge]

Bc

No immune system

[left charm]

I want the perfect pull NOW Lilith!!!!

[timber cipher]

like hypersensitivity ig or whats it called

[timber cipher]

kinda, some docs said i might have immuno difficiency problems - but wasn't tested a lot

so a bit of truth behind that - cant say whether it accurate tho

[pine sable]

there are some good anti allergy pills u can get a the pharmacy maybe spend ur money there LOL

[pine sable]

lyca skin, talene and a lyca would be my perfect pull im currently sitting on skins+talene

[timber cipher]

i can only take cetrizin because i was allergic to two other kinds

and cetrizin is making me tired af, docs even changed it to levocetrizin but still oof

[quick hinge]

How did u end up with negative heath stats

[pine sable]

ohh that blows then but its good for sleep problems then ig

[timber cipher]

welp im still outside with folks and living life so its fine - not like im dead when i see or touch people

prob just more likely to catch some things

[left charm]

respect, sounds like a fkn nightmare to get though

[timber cipher]

yea but when i take that stuff, i wont wake up

like literally

[timber cipher]

my alarm clock ringing for 2 hours

its 8am and im like what tired and dizzy af

[pine sable]

it is and i hate that u can pull elite fodder for some fckin reason

[pine sable]

same issue with the meds im currently taking, im so tired when i wake up for until like 2hrs after it very shit

[timber cipher]

wait forgot we can game accelerate to 6x

for pulls

whoever said that smart

[pine sable]

me np buddy haha

[left charm]

tell me about it, guarantee they have increased rates compared to asc tier 4f as well, fkrs show up way too often to not

[pine sable]

i have no clue why they thought putting them in there is a good idea anyways like they want us to pull garbage atp

[timber cipher]

now i know why kasu was that far in pulling and in like the weird event with the keys where we got 24h xp

i was like 2hours behind

[left charm]

it's specifically to piss you off when you get skin +2 elite 1 cele hypo 1 absolutely useless lmao

[pine sable]

pulled 2 wukongs in a row i think its time for bed

[left charm]

[mint osprey]

anyone have their sjw surviving for more than 10sec ?

[timber cipher]

oh lmao 2x again

[left charm]

how many is that?

[pine sable]

i literally just pulled mehira skin, orthros and fodder like u said

[timber cipher]

it takes forever to pull bear with me

[pine sable]

i have NEVER had 2x dim pull in none of the events and i went over 1.2k pulls everytime

[left charm]

fkn knew it, got it so many times on test

[tawny basalt]

hi guys, i just start yesterday, i already read beginner guide and i have some question, who should i choose between jinwoo or hae in? pardon my broken english

[left charm]

you're hated by lilith for some reason I got 2 doubls from 750 lol

[pine sable]

its such a scam istg

[left charm]

You get both by logging in so it doesn't matter but just take sjw

[left charm]

REAL

[pine sable]

yeah idk why lol like thats gotta be crazy odds too to never have a double in almost 4k pulls

i pulled a wukong again ffs

[tawny basalt]

i see, thankyouu so much

[timber cipher]

lmao

[left charm]

steal iperx's acc, you're doomed

[pine sable]

ok fk u atp

[left charm]

yw

[timber cipher]

rigged acc blessed by the kraken gods

[pine sable]

spending like 2k on this game doesnt make me eligible for vip rewards

[twin marsh]

Let’s sue

[pine sable]

its definitely rigged

p2w p2w basically for krakens

[pine sable]

i think we lose that mate

[left charm]

f2p rng cleared you </3

[left charm]

gotta be at least 8

[pine sable]

say less (im broke af i dropped all my money on this game and got scammed by dim pulls anyways)

[timber cipher]

38 + 15

[left charm]

beat avg go off

[left charm]

LMAO

[feral lion]

my results

[timber cipher]

3x doubles and not beating avg lmao

[left charm]

Lilith games says "Go into debt for collab!"

[pine sable]

im swiping again next few days when i get paid oopsies

[left charm]

[pine sable]

maybe i dont get doubles but at least we both didnt beat avg

[timber cipher]

yea

but its 7 above min which is fine-ish

[inland flame]

Do you count the one you get at milestone when you say 38 in 1700pulls?

[timber cipher]

not the great for 1700 pulls - but not the worst

[pine sable]

same its fine ig if ur not a min odds lol

[timber cipher]

milestones are +15 for me so with milestones 38+15 = 53

the screens from the support area are without milestone rewards

[twin marsh]

[inland flame]

Is 22 in 940 without milestone good ?

[pine sable]

why is ur abledo mythic

[timber cipher]

do 940/60 then you have your min

[feral lion]

Isnt average for 1700 34? since its 2%?

[timber cipher]

15 would be min you got +7 thats good

[feral lion]

How do you come up with those numbers

[inland flame]

Ye I feel like I got really luck I got 2 spirit in the same pull 3times

[timber cipher]

https://github.com/aesoopIT/afk_companion/blob/main/chances_simulator.py

well you have this:
GUARANTEED_PULLS = sorted({60, 120, 180, 240, 300, 500, 580, 660, 740, 820, 1100, 1200, 1300, 1400, 1500})

[timber cipher]

we just add the milestones into the calculator to simplify

[twin marsh]

She was E until a few minutes ago

[feral lion]

Ahhh i see, ty

[inland flame]

Rn who do you think I should upgrade I could max 2

[timber cipher]

jinwoo a5, albedo a3

si albedo +30 if possible

you could wait and do marci a5 instead of jinwoo if you're scared

[inland flame]

Ok so jinwoo over marci

[random temple]

laois a5 wit no marci is insane work

[timber cipher]

I'd say so "untargetability" ++ better 1v5 potential

[inland flame]

Did it on the first day

[timber cipher]

but what you can do for certain without regrets is albedo a3

[inland flame]

How much spirits to max ?

[timber cipher]

23

[pine sable]

whale

[timber cipher]

a3 = 19

[inland flame]

Okok and do you know if jinwoo is needed to be a5

[twin marsh]

Did you get both of them to A5? @timber cipher

[timber cipher]

no not yet:

[mint osprey]

sjw playable without albedo ?

[timber cipher]

if your region doesn't have him, ofc because in most cases you wont face him with albedo

[mint osprey]

ok ok

[timber cipher]

but if you want to wait for more testings just wait and see what players post

[mint osprey]

💔

[timber cipher]

like if you guys are unsure literally just chill 24-48 hours (or if possible longer) - i know its hard, but it'll be best for the decision making

[mint osprey]

im scared that they are so weak they can survive long enough

someone in my server got him a5 but cant deal dmg

[left charm]

just wait you're not missing out by building them before anyone knows how good they are in the grand scheme of things, you have time. So just don't do anything with them yet

[mint osprey]

When a0 this was his dmg💔💀

so im so scared

[timber cipher]

yea ofc a0 +0 does nothing

[inland flame]

So iperx I upgrade albedo over marci

[twin marsh]

Dude what 😭

[random temple]

not even +0 thats -1

[twin marsh]

No one’s gonna deal damage like that

[timber cipher]

you need his divinity to recasts shadowhunts for untargetability

[mint osprey]

someone from guild sent me this💔

[timber cipher]

albedo +30 has the highest value

[mint osprey]

im scared tho even +0 si-0

[inland flame]

Ok thx

[timber cipher]

in terms of dimensionals yes.

[left charm]

has no investment why would the assumption be he's amazing

[mint osprey]

idk

i wanted him to be very powerful

like in webtoon

[left charm]

exactly so it's ok to just chill and wait

[left charm]

he sucks ass in webtoon too without any resources

[pine sable]

my jin woo currently

should t2 him?

[timber cipher]

wait

if you dont have his +30 i wouldnt do so

[pine sable]

thats not what my trigger finger wanted to hear

[pine sable]

i got 100 emblems take it or leave it

[cold current]

Finally got enough fodder for abrutus😊

[pine sable]

nice ggs

[cold current]

Thanks

[inland flame]

Is albedo a3 needed or mythic works

[mint osprey]

omg🥹

[mint osprey]

how much for 20->30 ?

[left charm]

300 red

They’re telling me something I can feel it

[mint osprey]

💔

that a lot

[timber flint]

Any drealm realm lineups with the new dims?

[pine sable]

300

[timber cipher]

yes 20 different ones

[mint osprey]

i go sleep 🥹

[pine sable]

have a good night

[left charm]

gn

[timber cipher]

i know that team seems overkill

but at that diff its not

[mint osprey]

ty

[timber cipher]

kt is hard

[pine sable]

im at floor 601 now i think i could go to like 610 by i cba lol

good comp tho

will copy that once i get there rest assured

[timber cipher]

just to show you the lowest power other solution:

and it was only that team

seems promising if he already works at a5 +21 and t0 equip

(for me)

[warm slate]

I got 24 souls what should I do?
Upgrade Laios to a5 (a1 currently) or get Sung Jinwoo to a5 or Cha Hae to a5?

[timber cipher]

laios can stay at a1 +20 and be the way he is

you should wait and be responsible with either jinwoo or marcielle

[warm slate]

I got marc a5

[timber cipher]

welp atm everyone is like cha is underperforming

haven't tested/upgraded her yet- but probably is harder too use aside from bossing

so you most likely want to do jinwoo over laios over cha

[warm slate]

Okay thanks

[weary dove]

These soul things work on celest as well?

[timber cipher]

[inland flame]

@timber cipher what’s the minimum for albedo

[timber cipher]

mythic if you only want to profit from the atk/def buff of her SI

a3 if you want to profit from her guarding an ally so that it doesn't insta die

a3 is a mini cheat death if albedo isnt killed before

[inland flame]

Ok thanks

[weary dove]

Anyone else annoyed about the 72 hour cool down for duo team up?

[timber cipher]

for the same partner?

never noticed because on my f2p we circle arround if we share the whale

so my previous teammate from the guild will team up with another guild mate

while im partnerd with the whale

and i duo with the next person that duos the whale

jinwoo trials on same level diff feels messed up

harder combat, same level diff

jinwoo is busted

i can use him on a5 +21, no t1 stones

outdamaging my t1 +30 t1 stoned marcielle

am convinced

[mint osprey]

i cant sleep

[timber cipher]

welcome to the heavy lifters

[mint osprey]

ok ive seen enough

i go ascend him

[mint osprey]

u didnt go for T2 boots ?

[timber cipher]

i can get one t2 but I'd always go weapon > everything else

atm if im facing something im more often than not lacking dmg in consistency

while the dodge can be rng'd

[weary dove]

In the last patch they added a 72 hour cooldown if the power gap is to big

I thought the point of comp was so we could help each other lol

[mint osprey]

can you go for a T2 if not equipped T1 ?

[timber cipher]

t2 in stone or t2 in ascension?

[mint osprey]

stone

[timber cipher]

you need for a t1 weapon a 5* mythic weapon
for a t2 you need a t1 5* mythic weapon

[mint osprey]

wait how u got M+ gear ?

[timber cipher]

pulling

milestone rewards

or events

here these

[mint osprey]

its mythic

not M+

[left charm]

t1 looks like that

[timber cipher]

yea m+ is just t1

[mint osprey]

💔😭

[timber cipher]

that comes after 5* and using a t1 stone from the guild store

[left charm]

level 8 guild unlock iirc

[timber cipher]

guild store lvl 6 == lvl 9 guild yea

[weary dove]

Level 8 unl9cks mythic

9 unlocks those stones

[timber cipher]

o ty for correcting

[weary dove]

No problem

[hoary dawn]

is it better to a5 sun jinwoo, or start building hae-in? I have him a3 atm

[weary dove]

A5 I think

Just a5 them both

[cobalt heart]

I'm waiting to see who becomes the meta in the next few days. I have 30 souls saved and ready got both characters

[pine sable]

his a5 is super important he gets a bunch of buffs after every kill

[cobalt heart]

I really want sjw, but I got a feeling haein will be better

[dim barn]

is there life time code for companion server?

[weary dove]

They make a great combo tbh

[mint osprey]

is Rebirth a thing popular ? some of my guild want to rebirth to big server later on to whale bigger … idk the point they’ll lose their account and they’ll lose collabs…

[weary dove]

I'm using a5 sjw and a cha and destroying everything

No dont do it

It's not worth it

[timber cipher]

only if you fked up and learned that you know better now

[vapid lava]

A5 jinwoo after his first proc is actually good

[timber cipher]

like if you think that you're uncompetitive

[timber cipher]

yep if he kill resets he is stronger than shalltear

snowball machine

[vapid lava]

Have you thought up any good teams?

[timber cipher]

either albedo to give a headstart

and brutus for high survivability and armor shred

or/and some weird haste version with mehira atm

am testing cha atm but cha seems to flop a bit hard

will get ready for work now tho

[mint osprey]

idk they want rebirth ….

[timber cipher]

so gl since i didnt sleep well i might take a short day, sleep a bit and will test ater im up

[timber cipher]

idk if you want to keep your acc say no fuq that

if you want to play with them - feel free to do so

make your decision based on your own
whether your time/money/effort or w.e. was worth it or whether you'd like to redo or not

as you atm seem you don't feel the way they do

be open minded about that, tell them you'd rather not and see what happens

[cold current]

A bit luckier on my main, got the same amount of spirits in the end, but I didn't have 2 spirits from last collab that I had on my second account. And 2 doubles, let's go

[timber cipher]

gz

[cold current]

Now time to blow this bad boys💀

[cold current]

That sounds wrong

Whatever

[runic sparrow]

A5 SJW and M Cha or A1 both?

[cold current]

I'd say jinwoo is a higher priority

[runic sparrow]

that was my thought too

[timber cipher]

follow the way of light

[runic sparrow]

his A5 seems insane for DR and whatnot

[mint osprey]

i mean all i care about is collection if server dead i think its even better right ? since easier rewards

[timber cipher]

yea that makes it a lot easier aside from regional arena

you might be fked in events if you dont have atleast one active guild with 30 people tho where you can join in

[runic sparrow]

tempted to A5 SI30 him immediately cuz I can afford it judt dont wanna regret it lmao

[inland flame]

Whose should i t2

I’ve got trishea and asolise weapon t2 already

[main leaf]

Pro tip never check ur gf's afk arena account

ts had me tweaking

[mint osprey]

rlly ?

[mint osprey]

💀

[weary dove]

Lmfao 279 for wilder

[vapid lava]

Hmmm I'm happy I didn't dump resources into her yet

[vapid lava]

That hurts my soul

[mint osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-sad-monkey-monkey-sad-awkward-shy-gif-17280260242290492025

me waiting for other to have fun and build my heroes💔

[inland flame]

What should I t2?

[left charm]

[weary dove]

How many 5* do i need before I can get transcendent again?

[left charm]

25

[stuck sonnet]

SJW or Cha?

[ebon sand]

New milestone! 🎊

[weary dove]

Sjw I'm pretty sure

[quick hinge]

Yom being the kraken of his server

[ebon sand]

Nah, we joined forces with top Fafoo members and Liberation has lower overall scores but higher celehypos than me AND he's got the new op pet at 5*

Si29

That's how far I got for now, I only had 2 spare spirits from previous dim banner

[main leaf]

what yall going for?

I'm thinking lyca or mehira skin

celeshypo and 4elite is best combo u can get realistically

Mehira skin + 9 trishea's 🤩

[warm lagoon]

I don't know maybe if you would have checked it sooner could have helped her out

[warm lagoon]

Do they have gwyneth's skin

[cold current]

No

It has Mehira, Lyca, Belinda, Grezhul and Chicken man

[main leaf]

TapB gmfu for calling skirath chicken man knowing full well I know his name

Chicken man's only use is to boost belinda / trishea

[cold current]

Yeah same

[main leaf]

Are we dead grass

[left charm]

Optimal pull, confirm it

[main leaf]

It's a bunch o' nothing brooooo

🫩

Game got me tweaking

Imma summon till I get all trish + succubus/lyca

😞

[left charm]

😭 17 million pulls later lol

[main leaf]

true

[tawny basalt]

what should i do with diamond? what the priority to use that

[twin marsh]

Good shit

[twin marsh]

Red chests in the store and rn summon on the collab event

[tawny basalt]

i see.. okay thanks

[bright ivy]

Has anyone found where the Realm of Shadows is located?

[tawny basalt]

hi guys, what should i pick in here?

[bright ivy]

talene + skin

[tawny basalt]

okay

[vital pond]

Nice pull but i need talene and one skin

[mint osprey]

is it even worth since collab ?

[twin marsh]

What?

[left charm]

red chests always worth it

[wet sluice]

level gap

in campaign with team up?

is that new?

like being unable to join a lower stage player and teaming up?

[mint osprey]

i mean since collab i thought better focus on summons lol

[blazing bramble]

I got my perfect pull (would've preferred Grez skin but this is nice too).

Last copy for 5* talene and 2* Trish (and last 2* for ASolise)

[novel pebble]

How to unlock this chae?

[bright ivy]

you need to complete the painting quest

[novel pebble]

@bright ivy thank you

[mint osprey]

what is that name😭💔

[bright ivy]

[twin marsh]

👀

[left charm]

SJW was a furry hm

[twin marsh]

He’s in the mauler gang now

[left charm]

How's he feeling for you?

[mint osprey]

worth pulling ?

investing*

[twin marsh]

It’s weird

If he gets one kill he’s just unstoppable

[bright ivy]

have you tried him with the girl?

[twin marsh]

But more often than not his energy recovery is really slow

So he dies before ulting

[bright ivy]

try to use rowan with him

[twin marsh]

Nah, I’m having to build Albedo as well

Will probably skill Chae

[twin marsh]

Yeah, could be a solution

Skregg at A5 as well

[left charm]

mmm makes sense, would be nice to have a suitable battery

But it sounds like he's pretty much as expected, dependent on getting ult off

[twin marsh]

He would be crazy with Ivan or something like that

[left charm]

Is that not every like character in the game </3

[twin marsh]

Eh not really tbf

Some of our heavy hitters like Trish or Mira wouldn’t really benefit from him

[bright ivy]

can you show how Mira deals the damage?

[left charm]

Ok yes given they care little for energy you're right

[mint osprey]

so is he op?

or can save for next collab

[twin marsh]

It’s just because Mira’s big thing is dying at the start and instantly ulting

Since she goes into that ghost form and she can’t ult again, Ivan’s huge energy battery would be wasted on her

[twin marsh]

No point in saving tbh

[mint osprey]

so all on him

for at least A3

[twin marsh]

Even if you don’t invest into him, I feel like it’s good to pull for the souls

[mint osprey]

yes i mean invest dims ?

[twin marsh]

I like him, but maybe check with others too

Don’t want you to get your expectations too high

[mint osprey]

idk i find him weak from screenshot i saw

[bright ivy]

[twin marsh]

Which screenshot

[mint osprey]

from guild members

T2 but no T1 😭

[bright ivy]

can you show how many exp you need for upgrade in the resonance crystal?

[mint osprey]

i no need exp

need dust

[bright ivy]

can you show how much?

[mint osprey]

im not far enough for crystal

[warm lagoon]

I don't know if somebody already told you this but day for

[bright ivy]

I thought you had already 360+

[mint osprey]

no lol

serv 194

[warm lagoon]

Yeah companion sucks when it comes to RC compared to classic on companions you have to get five heroes to 360 I think on classic it's five heroes to 240

[shrewd saffron]

my luck is so sh*t

[warm lagoon]

How so you know you can reroll several several times I get it about a hundred times

You didn't save the first one you got did you well you're supposed to save the first one but you didn't accept the first one you got did you @shrewd saffron

[whole crane]

dropped the video finally

[whole crane]

brehhhhhh

[ebon sand]

Dilemma

[bright ivy]

both bad

[ebon sand]

Actually twins with Crassio would be great if it were with Skriath skin

But this event seems rigged, the bird pimp always comes up with shit choices

[left charm]

Grez is the only skin I get with any good heroes

[floral perch]

does jinwoo's timer not reset when he gets a kill?

and gets insane stat stacking instead?

[ebon sand]

I want my Crassio T2 and I need stars on both twins and flora for my ATalene, sooooo

[whole crane]

Is it possible to get 2 skins from 1?

[left charm]

tempting, very tempting

[left charm]

no

[sour crag]

No, only 1 cele/hypo + skin + 1E max

[timber flint]

My current summons, dunno how much more i should keep trying

[twin marsh]

I think it doesn’t reset

[twilit solar]

is this good?

[magic tree]

No.

Get 1 skin, 1 celehypo and 1 4F elite

[twilit solar]

I was being ironic

But thank you 🙂

[twin marsh]

How’s Chae?

[magic tree]

I didn't try yet

Need 10 more pulls for milestone copy and then A5

[ebon sand]

The last squad of this stage is resisting me, this is the best I got so far, the enemy's skregg is way too brutal -_-

[tawdry linden]

PLs tell me which should get first 🙂

@magic tree better rist Tiwns or Mortas to mystic? i miss from both only 1 copy 🙂

[magic tree]

I'd go Mortas with arena coins

[tawdry linden]

ok thx so twins 🙂

[warm lagoon]

Yes

[warm lagoon]

Okay the first one was just a stupid answer but I will answer your question for you whichever one you want first they're both good in my opinion

[floral perch]

Can we report you for this?? This is not fair

XD

[twilit oracle]

keep?

[warm lagoon]

I would

I hate the skin choices they give us though

[twilit oracle]

me2

[warm lagoon]

I would have loved to either be able to get Gwyneth or Lucretia skins

[twin marsh]

Those were like 400 bucks

They’re not just gonna give them for free

[tawdry linden]

ok thank you and is 1 kinda OP?

[warm lagoon]

I went for Jin-woo Sung first because we're going to get both of them eventually but rule of thumb is the warrior out of the duo dimensionals is always the strongest

[warm lagoon]

On companions aren't all of the skins like $400 to $500

[silent ravine]

It’s oddly true except for this one where jinwoo is better on companions due to cha nerfs

[lusty plank]

Already got what I wanted lol

That saved me a lot of time

Any other hero would be useless to me

I wish it was the Lyca skin but I seriously couldn’t give less of a fuck

Now classic is gonna be a pain in the ass…I need to get 1 specific awakened hero out of like 20

[twin marsh]

No

[lusty plank]

@timber cipher so far

I haven’t even started using dias

My first 60 were insane tho

I got like 4

[old swan]

which of the two dimeonsional new heroes are worth topull

or more like to focus on

[verbal forge]

who better the girl or the lad ?

[old swan]

exactly thats my question

[warm lagoon]

Yes

[old swan]

wait

thats solo leveling

omg

i just notice

wtf

[warm lagoon]

You been sleeping under a rock or something dude

[old swan]

yes

i just watched solo leveling some weeks ago

[twin marsh]

Him

[warm lagoon]

Yeah the dude is good but he's not as broken as he would be from the manga

[mint osprey]

guys

SJW S30 is top pritority

not even close to have enough dupes for trishea

so idk if i upgrade his SI

[old swan]

i make him as strong as in the manga

[warm lagoon]

You can't because he doesn't summon minion

[old swan]

)=

[lusty plank]

Lmao the fodder from this event

It always boosts my ascended heroes by a lot

These are just from the past 5 mins

[timber cipher]

really good

[verbal nebula]

aRe thEY gO0d shOulD i geT thE neW DIMS??!!??
Jk maybe if someone has an idea in a few days we could make it a pinned post? cause i assume thisll be asked alot/is of interest to many

[lusty plank]

The general consensus is already Jinwoo > Cha

The funny thing is, it’s the opposite on classic

Since Cha got nerfed to hell and back here

[tawdry linden]

where i see that?

[timber cipher]

the thing with comments is you'd need one for reddit, one for the dc

then atm you have the problem that the heroes are like out for 12 hours

they have different stepstones, that aren't tested and explored and yea jinwoo is good at maxed out but maybe people are only intresting in knowing how good a1 or a0 jinwoo is and such

... hard to give specific info on all of that

[timber cipher]

support area and then like under one of the 3 main points there is a thing where you can see your summons for the past X days

[alpine saffron]

It’s 24 souls to max a dim right?

[vital pond]

23

[tawdry linden]

23 🙁

only have 13

[alpine saffron]

Thxs

[alpine saffron]

I only have 34, can’t max both 🫠

[tawdry linden]

fck 270 pulls ony 7 spiorits

[timber cipher]

@bright ivy here is the aBrutus that'll get after next arena reset instant +20

am/were slacking off with hero building

[bright ivy]

idk, still weak for me as f2p acc

are you in top 1 guild?

[timber cipher]

its like 10 days pre your serverstart and top 4?

[bright ivy]

top 4?

[timber cipher]

yea

pushing wise

[bright ivy]

perhaps the server has not the same competition as my has

[timber cipher]

I wouldn't say so, I just think you underestimate the value of that marcielle really much.

And you overvalue the couple of 3-4 star heroes that you have

[bright ivy]

marcile is strong, but the overall upgrade seems for me very weak

[timber cipher]

I mean you're 10 days after me if you're on s162
the acc is s157

blaze past me in the next 10 days and I'll gladly believe you that its weak, but I think my emblems are good I'm stacked on over 300 gold emblems still for aBrutus and maybe some already for jinwoo

aswell as I'm close to trishea 30

I have plenty big upgrades - so I'd say that the star levels are very unproblematic since you do not win by quantity in arena, you do win by quality.

i still have to push here bc i was to lazy

aswell as kt

but you're right i choose to spent on marcielle instead of normal summons and im by far not as stared up as you're

and you're maybe right and in 10 days way past me

[bright ivy]

😂

[real spruce]

Who would be better to use for Mauler tower, Brutus 4* or aBrutus 0*? I dont really want to invest in their SI

[bright ivy]

aBrutus 0*

[real spruce]

Alright, what SI does he need to be fully optimal? +10/20?

[bright ivy]

20

[timber cipher]

you do kinda want to invest into aBrutus +20 SI sooner or later tho

[timber cipher]

yo 44-32 has a blessed offer

when was t he last time I've seen the 70 for 285 reds

[proven locust]

Should we be upgrading equipment without faction +?

Any advice on upgrades, etc?

[timid briar]

not recommanded but we all do it at one point