companions-chat

[hollow river]

If I didn’t flub and waste 300 tickets on roku I would be in a better spot

[vapid lava]

Results for Souls obtained in 500 pulls:
Avg Souls: 19.94
Min Souls: 14
Max Souls: 36

[hollow river]

Thanks

[vapid lava]

If you used the same amount of resources, yeah

[left charm]

Tell me about it lol, I'm set for ~700 pulls and fully expecting like 19

[echo finch]

i had fewer at the start of dungeon meshi

so i really managed to "nah, i'd win"

[vapid lava]

@fickle sierra @echo finch @hollow river Btw this does not account for the freebies if they give any away or any free dims. It does include the pull rewards for say 300 pulls etc.

Do yall want to see the numbers for getting both maxed?

[mint osprey]

huh ?

[fickle sierra]

Lets see it!

[echo finch]

lemme guess, more than 900 lol

[hollow river]

It’s 46 dims

So I assume 1400

[mint osprey]

tap b if ur in contact with lilith could u please ask them to rerun older collab on newer servers😭

[left charm]

it's like 1300 avg or there abouts is it not

[vapid lava]

Now, assuming we get both of the dims outright we will need 23 more souls for each:

--- Top Spikes ---
Spike Pulls Diamond Cost Souls

Most likely 1108 332400 46
Second most likely 1197 359100 46
Third most likely 1305 391500 46

Best Case: 740 pulls -> 222000 Diamonds
Worst Case: 1638 pulls -> 491400 Diamonds

[left charm]

oh damn

[hollow river]

Nerd

[left charm]

nah I was wrong as hell

[fickle sierra]

I unfortunately do not have that ability 😂

[hollow river]

Third most likely

[left charm]

got one of the three at least lol

[hollow river]

Exactly

[hollow river]

How many summons you sitting on again I forgot

[vapid lava]

Lol no the probabilities are given to us so we can create programs to simulate rollings

[left charm]

~700 off rip

[left charm]

Am I reading this wrong or is the output mixing up 2nd and 3rd most likely

[vapid lava]

Nah pretty good guess, 2nd

[fickle sierra]

I was over here thinking I would get enough to max both and get Laios ascended...RIP

[mint osprey]

Idk if new collab are very strong tbh🥲

[vapid lava]

Yes it is mixed up I just noticed. I'll have to take a look at the code

[left charm]

💸

[hollow river]

I could be on 600 tickets and like 200k dias but I went a good bit in on roku cause he was a wilder

[left charm]

💔

[vapid lava]

There are always the dim deals

[vapid lava]

Results for Souls obtained in 1266 pulls:
Avg Souls: 47.74
Min Souls: 34
Max Souls: 71

[left charm]

bruh you could've been maxing them straight away damn

[fickle sierra]

I think I've bought one thing since playing companions...but maybe that will change with this event

[hollow river]

You did have to show me the stats of my mess up 😭

[left charm]

that was cold 🤣

[vapid lava]

It was so insane I had to, sorry

[fickle sierra]

😂

[hollow river]

I got done dirty

[vapid lava]

I would recommend waiting for iperx y0m sailus and others to test them out and get back to us. We will have a month to spend.. Although I may break my own rule there

[fickle sierra]

I'll probably pull for the shards and wait a bit. Unless there is a clear better option that we know of by launch

[hollow river]

How much I put in roku btw and I got extremely unlucky

[vapid lava]

Have yall seen these? Classic version leak

[vapid lava]

Just remember stop at A*4

[hollow river]

Yeah I sent them to a guild chat thanks to you

[hollow river]

Why if you don’t mind me asking?

[fickle sierra]

Curious if they will be different for companions at all

[vapid lava]

Damage gets decreased at A*5. Read what it gives

[hollow river]

Si will since we don’t have 40 or 50

[cold current]

Yo Bacon, love your videos!

[hollow river]

Ahhhh thank you

I haven’t used him once to be honest

[cold current]

I'm at 128k diamonds and like 330 destiny scrolls, I'll try to push for 1000 total summons to get 2 sets of mythic gear

[vapid lava]

Yeah we will lose typically the SI 40/50 and E30/60. The stars will help give some stuff back like some furniture stuff idk. But they will be a little different

[fickle sierra]

Thank you!

[cold current]

Hopefully can get both dims fully built, or at least ascended

[vapid lava]

Results for Souls obtained in 756 pulls:
Avg Souls: 30.22
Min Souls: 21
Max Souls: 47

You can ascend both

But not if you want to max one

[mint osprey]

where is ascended 1-3-5*

the buffs

[left charm]

divine effects aren't a thing in classic, which this is for

[vapid lava]

That leak is for classic, they don't have those

[cold current]

Yeah, I'll have to decide later

[mint osprey]

lol

crazy they dont have this

so they might be better for us ?

[vapid lava]

Hopefully youll pull on the lucky side and we also have a full month to gather more rss

[fickle sierra]

I like Jinwoo's kit, seems fun. Gotta wait to see if he is any good though.

[hollow river]

They have engraving instead which is more complicated in my opinion

[vapid lava]

IMO the classic versions are always stronger

[hollow river]

Only a month no

[left charm]

Classic has more things that make them stronger which we don't have

[hollow river]

Sadge they should pull what they did with the overlord collab and keep extending it for like forever

[left charm]

And yeah it's a safe bet to assume they'll be stronger in classic simply due to how power crept everything is as it's much older and more established

[left charm]

Imagine having been around for overlord collab couldn't be me 💔

[hollow river]

Lightbearers win

[left charm]

REAL

[mint osprey]

i wish i could pllay classic unfortunately 3 big issues (for me at least lol)
1- never good luck and start with randle or ivan kkkkk
2- its way too much coplicated and focus on RGM so if ure behind ure bricked account
3- sever open not frequent so if u miss it ur doomed

[vapid lava]

Yeah I am super excited for both. Disappointed that Cha really needs to be ran with Jinwoo for the buffs.

On paper Cha looks better, but Jinwoo teleport has good PvP suggestions. I wish the rank up for Jinwoo wasn't quite 15s long but we can't have them too strong.

Also the design for Jinwoo is a let down considering his evolution in the show. (trying to not spoil bc I think you said you were planning on watching it soon in a video)

[vapid lava]

Yeah but a month is long

[cold current]

Fingers crossed 🤞

[hollow river]

The overlord was like 2 and half if I’m not mistaken

It was nice

[cold current]

Yeah, as a fan I'm a tiny bit disappointed, but we'll see

[vapid lava]

Yes classic is alot. I am lazy on my classic account and always behind

[fickle sierra]

I'm not the biggest fan of the dims being dependent on each other like Marcille/laios. I want more like Shalltear that are just beast on their own lol.

[hollow river]

They want money though so they make them more dependent on each other

[left charm]

All fair enough, classic does give you options to make your own luck with mechanics like legacy of grit and the swap scroll, but it's a pain to push through and get those if you're unlucky.

It is very in depth and there's a lot of content that's important making it hard and pretty inaccessible so that's fair.

True, but regardless, the whaling there is much more oppressive than companions so you're gonna struggle to truly compete regardless.

[mint osprey]

truue

[vapid lava]

Exactly! But ig they get more people spending this way. Oh whale I guess I'll spend

[left charm]

big agree

[mint osprey]

Wish 194 server had shalltear tho

[fickle sierra]

You're probably right lol. Just add a third one then! 😂

[vapid lava]

Also classic does Dims so much better than companions

[mint osprey]

what it this ?

[vapid lava]

Ooo yes. add summons

[left charm]

Do you mean the characters or how they work with the binding?

[hollow river]

No cause then I’ll make a mistake like I did with Ainz

[vapid lava]

Everything. The garrison and how they give them away basically at the end of the event

[hollow river]

One day one day

[vapid lava]

in 6 more years

[left charm]

Completely fair, tbh the only thing I don't like about classic dims is the "dimensional deals" $100 character lmao

[hollow river]

I’ll be gone before then lol

[vapid lava]

haha true but you can't really blame them there

[hollow river]

Reruns have been confirmed though right?

[mint osprey]

im not into competitive i play for collection but they told me u cant in classic u need to play RGM otherwise ure bricked , in companion u can be casual imo

[mint osprey]

[mint osprey]

wait rlly ?

[left charm]

I can't blame them true, but I'm taking my rights to not fkn like it either 😤

lmao

[vapid lava]

Only Overlord came back.. small small chance

[hollow river]

Also Shalltear isn’t some almighty character though she’s good but not best

[hollow river]

Dang

[vapid lava]

In arena she's the goat

[mint osprey]

We fucked🥲

we no shalltear

[hollow river]

Trish still better then her in every way

[mint osprey]

but we play against shalltear in some content

[left charm]

Well there's a hell of a lot more to collect in classic, it's just difficult, you do need to play all the game modes as the rewards are actually good. Companions is significantly more casual friendly, which is why I like it more too

[mint osprey]

bc cross server i think in sigils

[hollow river]

People who use dims in sigils aren’t trying cause they give random sigils

[vapid lava]

Only thing I find negative is when servers w/o certain dims fight servers with said dims. Such as regional arena and the current sigil event. They should keep it seperate.

[hollow river]

Just use sweep you’ll get your rewards no matter what

[left charm]

Sigils isn't something you need to worry about it's fine

[mint osprey]

truuuue

[mint osprey]

how hard is it ? for companion player bc i always stopped ealy on lol

[left charm]

I think that the regional arena with dim havers and not havers is super unfair and poorly planned by lilith tbh

[hollow river]

Yeah can’t wait for alliance comp next week when I have to fight bune so fun

[vapid lava]

I feel as though it is super easy to not mess up and they clearly just don't care.

Anything regional

So what you do is get into a good region lol

[mint osprey]

bc my server is 1 month old we missed overlord and marcille colab but someone compete against it like bruh

[left charm]

Companions player would have an easier time than someone completely new but there's just so much stuff you need to learn and guides you need to read etc. and even with that you'll still have your fair share of struggles due to gate kept information and whatnot, if you enjoy companions for the collection and casually just play companions

[left charm]

completely true

[left charm]

LMAO

[hollow river]

Easy counter to any dim team is wilders

[left charm]

😭

[vapid lava]

True, dims aren't the end all be all. Wilders are still better normally

[mint osprey]

u cannot skip rgm right ?

[hollow river]

It’s gonna be miserable maybe I should just not pick a teammate where I don’t have to face him

[mint osprey]

way too important ?

[vapid lava]

[left charm]

You can, it doesn't force you to play it, but you're knee capping yourself if you have any interest in being remotely competitive

[hollow river]

Yeah dims kinda lack luster for me

[mint osprey]

what are rgm rewards ?

like diamonds ?

[left charm]

lmao, actual tactics coming out for alliance contest solely due to the existence of Bune

[mint osprey]

and scrolls

[left charm]

all of the above but mainly it's things that improve your heroes

[mint osprey]

is it crazy p2w ?

[hollow river]

Bune isn’t the only one there are like always the higher people that have spent a good bit more then me there and I lose

[vapid lava]

Hero progression items

[mint osprey]

bc if too p2w or frustrating i might just skip it

[left charm]

there is a lot more to whale on yes

[vapid lava]

p2w faster but not necessarily

[hollow river]

Shall really only good in campaign FF and tower for me

[left charm]

Always a bigger sea monster sadge

[vapid lava]

You just named half our gamemodes

[hollow river]

I wish I could refund my Ainz

[mint osprey]

i wish i had him

[left charm]

it sounds depressing when you say that

[vapid lava]

Yeah any Ainz not maxed is so useless

[hollow river]

Yeah I know but it’s to the point where she needs support

[vapid lava]

Unfortunate but tru

[hollow river]

Uhhhh

[mint osprey]

will they had ?

new game modes

[hollow river]

Hopefully

[vapid lava]

uhhhhhhhhhh

Do you only hve ainz maxed from the collab?

[hollow river]

He’s still useless

[left charm]

😭

[mint osprey]

why u want reset him he is maxed

[hollow river]

I’m innocent

[vapid lava]

He's good with albedo, you can shove him in with them and arthur do all sorts of things

[mint osprey]

omg bro

[hollow river]

He buns

[hollow river]

Arthur cost too much

[vapid lava]

He is usefull here and there, he is in alot of gamemodes you have the dims

[mint osprey]

🥲💔

[vapid lava]

haha

[hollow river]

No

[left charm]

Consistently wish I had've just bought Laios tbh

[hollow river]

lol

[left charm]

bullying me why smh

[mint osprey]

🥲

[hollow river]

I never really used him always a better character

[mint osprey]

btw are heroes pay to obtain

how does it work

[hollow river]

No free

[mint osprey]

both ?

[hollow river]

Yeah

[mint osprey]

Good

[vapid lava]

Laios over Marcille?

[hollow river]

Login and get them

[left charm]

My server missed out on Laios free by a day only got 1 of them for free lol

Have marci just not built out

[vapid lava]

Ahhhhhhh that is insane

[hollow river]

No the login event on 171 missed a day so he couldn’t get both

[left charm]

Broke my heart a while later tbh, initially it was just an oh well

[mint osprey]

THAT IS CRAZY

[left charm]

[vapid lava]

worst time to start

[left charm]

LMAO go me fr

[mint osprey]

Bro i would have been so sad

[left charm]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[vapid lava]

Karma for your pulls will be good though

[mint osprey]

but 1 better than none🥲

[left charm]

Nah I'm cooked, I'll run the sim right before I do them and check just how fk'd my luck really is lmao

[hollow river]

There’s still hope in the world cause lightbearers can beat a trans 2 shall on a full trans dim team with talene

[left charm]

maintain that was a wild win

[left charm]

</3

[hollow river]

Yeah

[vapid lava]

People doubt my LB

[hollow river]

Oh he didn’t have albedo I probably would have lost if he did

[mint osprey]

I have 5* rowan switching for new guys is good ?

this

[vapid lava]

Yeah albedo would have cooked you, seems like it was close anyways. Still good to see

[hollow river]

Yeah didn’t realize until now

[vapid lava]

Honestly he might be really good for DR and bossing

[hollow river]

Estrilda

[vapid lava]

buut Estrilda is known to be good so

Or Thane for PvP

[hollow river]

Estrilda makes the lightbearer team

[hollow river]

Is he good there haven’t used him there

[vapid lava]

He is an okay placeholder for aThane

I've heard max Thane can kinda work

[hollow river]

Now I’m curious what the lightbearer team is supposed to look like for PvP cause mine doesn’t use him

[left charm]

probably don't go for new guy over something like Scarlet/Estrilda/Thane

[hollow river]

I’m a small guppy in the sea

[mint osprey]

ty

[mint osprey]

ty

[mint osprey]

ty

[vapid lava]

Normally you see Rosa Rowan Hendrick/Sonja Arthur/Sonja/Estrilda Gwyn/Scarlett

Mid game or early late Thane works

[hollow river]

This is what I’m using atm

[left charm]

Usually just hear how inconsistent he is in PvP does he really perform?

[hollow river]

My LB are my second weakest faction sadly

[mint osprey]

btw does rowan alway need to be at position Backline mid ? same for rosa idk where to put her in contents

[vapid lava]

You can try replacing Rowan with Hendricks if you have him up, just for Swamp

[hollow river]

Nope he’s M+ kinda weak for me

[vapid lava]

But Rowan may work better for you. Arthur could make the comp crazy

[left charm]

doesn't need to be but he likes to be due to his kit, you can have him frontline sometimes, back side works as well, it all depends

[hollow river]

Bro Arthur like 200 dollars

[vapid lava]

Inconsistently good

[left charm]

Arthur buffs behind himself right

for Gwyn

[vapid lava]

yeah you all good your comp looks beautiful

[left charm]

heard, thanks mate

[hollow river]

Depends on the characters your using with them

[vapid lava]

Yes

[hollow river]

Arthur and audrea comp nasty

[left charm]

If only he was a little more available

[hollow river]

I’d be further in campaign

[mint osprey]

lol idk i hate rosaline

i dont like the hero

[left charm]

Rosaline is good

[hollow river]

Rosaline goated with gwyn

[vapid lava]

Yeah you can slot Audrea in for Rosa and Arthur for rowan

[mint osprey]

she doesnt fit with my team

at least

[hollow river]

If I had them up

[vapid lava]

I love Rosa

[left charm]

what team?

[left charm]

Rosa is absolutely good lol

[mint osprey]

i dont use her since i use : talene+mishka , and shemira rowan and salaki

[hollow river]

Estrilda Sonja Rowan Gwyneth and Rowan 😘

[mint osprey]

or replace salaki with lyca

[left charm]

You can use her a lot in campaign/tower but she shines in boss content

Essential even

[hollow river]

Rosaline with big numbers

I’m weak af though

[ebon sand]

Wow, so much text, things got chatty in here!

[left charm]

a lot of yap

[hollow river]

Hey

[ebon sand]

Gotta admit I didn't read through it all

[hollow river]

Just yapping while I wait for dooms day in expedition

[hollow river]

lol

[left charm]

[ebon sand]

[left charm]

[ebon sand]

It's alright, I saw most of it

First time I see tap b talk in here

[mint osprey]

idk how to create good teams for bossing content

[ebon sand]

You copy the N1 xD

[hollow river]

lol don’t copy me I’m terrible at it

[mint osprey]

i did this in DR but feel like its quite shit lol

[ebon sand]

Or throw diamonds at it to try various DPS with various supports

[hollow river]

We F2P out here we ain’t doing all that

[left charm]

guides on reddit from SaiLus are helpful, but dependent on having full kits unlocked, your big damage team will be the first one you used, you'll gradually have to make more but that's enough until you unlock more fights and get stronger heroes

[ebon sand]

If you're quite early in the game just don't sweat it too much imo

[hollow river]

I’m a slave to having to be competitive and getting first even though the person I fight against is arguably way better then me

[mint osprey]

reddit is so hard to use lkkkkk

[left charm]

he's gonna keep whaling lol

[mint osprey]

like im lost on the website

[left charm]

you don't have to use it much just go the the subreddit and click like three times lol

[hollow river]

Then keep throwing yourself at it till you do good then

[left charm]

real

or do what others said and literally just copy number 1

[hollow river]

Or ask for this guys help

[mint osprey]

huh ?

subreddit ?

[left charm]

your guild discord shenanigans can't pass here I'm a noob

[left charm]

r/afkarenacompanions

[hollow river]

Nuh uh this guy is smart

[left charm]

[hollow river]

Go here

[mint osprey]

oooh

on reddit they recommend using eiron as food

[left charm]

Eironn has use cases albeit infrequently afaik, Gorvo, Seirus and Nemora are just bad

You're not gonna be so starved that you need to use eironn as food

[mint osprey]

im starved

like wait

i'll show u

could have 2 ascend rn

if fodder

[left charm]

neither are trish not worth wasting, and using eironn there as fodder wouldn't make a real difference, you'll have plenty of food once you hit 5asc and need to get copies so just be patient

[ebon sand]

Oh nice!

[mint osprey]

what this?

[mint osprey]

food is such a pb rn

[ebon sand]

in the spire event you get 3 options and when lucky this is one of the 3, no need to fight players or monsters and big rewards

[left charm]

never found something better than "dangerous monster" </3

[left charm]

You'll be alright

[mint osprey]

so here right or mid ?

[ebon sand]

biggest reward is on the right but probably quite tough to beat, only go there if your guildmates can finish for you if you fail

and don't forget to set up a defense team

[mint osprey]

i can ik that they’re able

yes i did

[ebon sand]

👍

[mint osprey]

looks strong to me

[hollow river]

Lucky

[ebon sand]

yeah I think I've only seen this 3 times in a year

[hasty summit]

Where do i find witch character items are best to Upgrade

[tawdry linden]

What Formation? I never beat that boss

[twin marsh]

I ran Talene, Crassio, ABrutus, Warek and Twins

[oblique trellis]

lyca, shall, talene, mortas, trish/mishka

[tawdry linden]

thats works?

nope

coudnt kill 😦

But htx i willl save taht foreamtion 🙂

[wanton cloak]

If i dont have shall?

[wanton cloak]

Nvm it worked for me, thanks

[plucky fulcrum]

What team are you supposed to use in this spire contest? No matter what I do it’s health doesn’t go down

Oh someone already ask

[plucky fulcrum]

45%

[plucky fulcrum]

What ended up working?? It doesn’t make sense to me

[oblique trellis]

skill issue, thats 100% wr to me even at epic talene try twins

[plucky fulcrum]

Is it?

I simply don’t believe haha

[main sinew]

Hi, I am new to the game. Which server should I play on? Classic or companion?

[granite drift]

afk compainion have events like in afk arena normal

?

[plucky fulcrum]

Up to you

[quick hinge]

[quick hinge]

Lyca, talene, twins, solies, mishka

I think is what I used to run

[quick hinge]

Talene is its counter

[vital pond]

Lyca,Trish,twin,Solise and mortas

[covert remnant]

sup guys!

which beasts are worth combining after they are ascended?

[timber cipher]

#companions-questions pins -> guide finder by sailus

there is a link to the pet guide

[quick hinge]

Iperx

Why u still a nub

[timber cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/neo-rwby-anime-stomp-gif-14602786

[quick hinge]

Love u to

Also

I'm taking that

Mine now

[timber cipher]

Thought that was a Kasu answer, glad you fancy it.

[quick hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/kpop-kpop-demon-hunter-demon-hunter-gif-2782658559395323551

[timber cipher]

How's the IH grind going

[quick hinge]

I'm 3x the next person on my server

[timber cipher]

jinwoo and cha hae for us, but in weird in a super weird state

[mint osprey]

they planned on releasing new gamemode ?

[timber cipher]

bully

[quick hinge]

Just a bit

[timber cipher]

don't think so - they sent me an invite to talk to the devs

but it'd be at 4 am and i have to work at 7am on that day

[mint osprey]

huh ?

[timber cipher]

aslong as you have fun with it and aslong as the community is nice there - enjoy

[vapid lava]

Did you put in your info from the survey?

IH is a grind grind

[timber cipher]

put in my dc - maybe thats why

but idk dont really feel like not sleeping or missing a day of work or like taking a vacation day for a chance to talk to the devs

[vapid lava]

They wanted to talk to you to tell you to stop showing everyone the true values from the packs

[timber cipher]

if they want to talk to me on my time thats fine - but if not the koreans, chinese and others can speak for me

[timber cipher]

iperx ffs stop saying the event is cashgrab fomo

[vapid lava]

Yeah they should be going out of their way for it, not the other way around.

[vapid lava]

[timber cipher]

i already did it for every other event before aswell

just started doing it sooner/later with pics for the community

because i need to compare it somehow to myself to see whether its worth my money or not lmao

[timber cipher]

can understand them tho - you cant make it like for everyone and the asian community is faaaar bigger - so the devs will prob have a majority of them in there (not to be racist, just saying the market share is way bigger there)

so i can understand the timezone thingy and its a chinese studio - so they take their timezone

it just doesnt fit for me lmao

would've loved if selen or tank could've spoken to the devs before they went, maybe they'd have some value because big spenders

[timber cipher]

Will be a bit afk and meetup some folks, cheers. Keep me updated on the important stuff

[vapid lava]

True, it is understandable especially considering their market. It is still nice for players to potentially have the chance to speak with devs.

[vapid lava]

[mint osprey]

hope they’ll bring garrison on companion

[warm lagoon]

I still don't think they will ever do that

[mint osprey]

Me watching arena team on reddit and every team albedo

[crystal patrol]

When you forget forked fate is a thing for a week

[cold current]

Lol same

[twin marsh]

Someone build him 🗣️

[dry cape]

Any active codes?

[timber cipher]

walkers is walking a lonely road, the only one that walker has ever known, dont know where it goes, but its home to walker, and walker walks alone,
walker walks this emtpy street, on the boulevard of broken dreams

[cold current]

Peak writing

[vapid lava]

Since no one else seemed to get it:

Where the city sleeps
And Walker's the only one, and Walker walks alone
Walker walks alone, Walker walks alone
Walker walks alone, Walker walks a-

Walker's shadow's the only one that walks beside Walker
Walker's shallow heart's the only thing that's beating
Sometimes, Walker wishes someone out there will find Walker
'Til then, Walker walks alone

[lusty plank]

[vapid lava]

[timber cipher]

is it time for guild hunt guides btw.

i feel like my random ass stuff thrown together isnt as good as it can be
(firecrackers, wilder buff)

[vapid lava]

Just missing Walker

[timber cipher]

tried something else but it seemed worse (lb buff)

[vapid lava]

Scarlett does more in the LB comp I believe

Should out dmg the Trish asolise comp

[timber cipher]

tbf maybe using audrae and other units mortas and twins split up with wilder buff

and like audrae in there somewhere will work wonders - but i have whale problems - too much to choose from

[vapid lava]

The first screenshot you sent is the same Trish asolise comp I always see

[timber cipher]

only a3 +21 yet

but yea as soon as she releases and i unleash my pulls and a5 her I'll be happy

what'll end up happen -> me not pulling her from pulls and tavern flip cards

[vapid lava]

Ah

I think something like Scarlett Raine Rosa Rowan some 5th idk

[vapid lava]

I would flip my shit

[timber cipher]

not sure if we can give lb buff to two comps

would be funny to have a scarlett comp and some leftovers with thane both getting the buff

maybe thane walker

like was it you need like atleast 3 units of that type?

[vapid lava]

Lyca 5th ive seen

[vapid lava]

Yes I believe

[timber cipher]

should be worth a try as soon as i get one random walker from tavern flip or if i sneak him into tavern wishlist

[vapid lava]

Just sneak him into that wishlist for a few copies

[timber cipher]

4 for mythic+ ig

[vapid lava]

How does Warek buff again, should I be increasing his attack rating?

[timber cipher]

warek flips enemy == enemy takes more dmg

[vapid lava]

He doesn't matter then right, it's just any flipped enemy takes "increased dmg"

Nothing based on Warek's own stats

[timber cipher]

yea 80% increased damage

wait what its 80 on lvl 4 lmao

[vapid lava]

I didn't even realize it's that high

[timber cipher]

yea ig balanced by the fact its only one enemy, but against bosses thats quite nice

[pine sable]

@timber cipher i have been running this exact comp for every boss (wilder buff) lol i haven’t put a single thought into guild hunt in the last 3 months or so

[timber cipher]

damn that talene is pulling weight

[pine sable]

yep only time i change smth is for apostle i think, then i take the twins from hunting blade cos they die otherwise at elite

[timber cipher]

makes sense - glad you shared that info will try it out tmrw and give you the results

[pine sable]

every other time i press skip battle 3 times

[timber cipher]

i didnt put thought in it for the past months either, were only slightly adjusting after each new release

[pine sable]

i think most this comp does is for brute where it can, if u get a lucky high roll on talene, get up to 24b

all other bosses are like 12b and apostle like 4.5 to 5b

[timber cipher]

damn, yea kinda wanted to push the bigger numbers now - prob will need to +30 my talene tho

[pine sable]

yeah that helps, also kren is super good for some of them too, i saw a line up from slow where kren did over 1b

[timber cipher]

yea on my server i see nothing close to my comps and no one trying to change formations - so kinda hard to copy stuff, would be fun if we could sneak into other servers guildhunts and pick a server and see the ranking for it

like with a scrollable dropdown menu

[pine sable]

no that would mean lilith would have to put effort into cross server activities

hell nah they rather let the game die than implementing smth we are asking for

can’t have that

[timber cipher]

- well the devs have their first meetup with the community next friday at 2:30am CET - 4:30am CET

as far as im aware - so maybe we'll sooner or later get some good stuff

[pine sable]

tell them i want cross server guilds

good news tho, i hope we get some nice info after

[timber cipher]

have work and dont really want to

said no to the invite

[pine sable]

time is horrendous as per usual for us

[timber cipher]

welp lilith is based in china, cant expect their devs to work at nighttime for us aswell

so in that point i kinda understand that timing

[pine sable]

they hate EU istg

i get that

but we have been asking for better arena times for 2 months now

[timber cipher]

but i will trust that the asian whales that where invited will haggle some nice things in with the devs for us

[pine sable]

spire contest needs a rework as well

[timber cipher]

unfortunate that i cant tell you more about it because i declined and then it just closed the page lmao

[pine sable]

i dont even have vip support lol

im just a tiny dolphin ig

maybe i need to drop another 1k to get that

[timber cipher]

idk if i have vip support

the only thing i have is "exclusive rewards for vip" on like big holidays aswell as start of month

[pine sable]

why dont i have that grr

when do u even become eligible for that?

[timber cipher]

i told asku to ask support, kasu got it after asking support

[timber cipher]

idk i got it with spending less than kasu

[pine sable]

who do i need to ask for that?

[timber cipher]

but i specifically asked for vip rewards multiple times and a vip system as in classic

i asked ingame supp

like when you press the support thingy button

[pine sable]

i see ill message them today

[timber cipher]

just ask them if you're eligible for it and that you'd like it since you've been spending a lot already etc.

[pine sable]

okay i will ask nicely

[timber cipher]

atm its only like 10sg x month anyways

and 20red emblems on holidays - but still nice to have

[pine sable]

i would take that as a bonus any day

ty for the info

[timber cipher]

no worries

I've been seeing that by a big classic whale because it was at first a thing people got that were like max vip in classic or something like that

[pine sable]

ohh yeah vip doesnt rly exist on companions

maybe the perk store but thats kinda whatever

[timber cipher]

yeaa but since they track everythign and you end up with negative exact diamond value after refunds and such as we found out by one person doing that

[pine sable]

i gotta stay the perk store is hilarious, its like, u paid a bunch of money now u have unlocked MORE ways to spend money

[timber cipher]

they should be able to implement vip and give you points accordingly

[pine sable]

idk the 40 gazer bundle is pretty good if ur talking about the bundles there

[timber cipher]

devious

but tbf better reward than the end of month 1750% deal

like 3000% and better is net zero with climbers pack as far as im aware

so i like the values of the perkstore

[pine sable]

yeah the values there are good but like i said i find it hilarious that ur reward for spending are more options to spend

[timber cipher]

yea am agreeing with thatl mao

[pine sable]

anyways will ask support today for the small benefit, would be nice to have ngl

[timber cipher]

yea its vip 14 reward

on classic

[pine sable]

okok

[timber cipher]

gl gl

[pine sable]

dropping over 1k apparently isn’t enough to make me eligible so in short i should spend more to get 10 measly sg per month and 20 red per event lmfao that is fucking crazy

most games u drop 60 bucks and get a game here u spent thousands to get 10 gazers per month which would take u half a year to get a guaranteed pull and 20 red per event which would be uhhh like idk a decade for one si30

[timber cipher]

iirc kasu was at 5k

and i was at like 3.8k

[pine sable]

that is WILD

at least the reply was fast

[timber cipher]

it is wyld and unlike many other games

but well a lot of other games shut down fast, lose players even faster and so on (as far as im aware)

didnt play newer titles or other cashgrabs since like 2021ish - could be that its different

heard about this oma musume horse race thingy

but like idk how gaccha player retention is

[pine sable]

i have never rly been into gacha

this is the first one and probably the last one im playing cos holy fk it drains ur wallet

[timber cipher]

yea, i just know people spent thousands on genshin and other and support didnt care for them either lmao

[timber cipher]

if u want to be competitive for sure

[pine sable]

yeah genshin is a different level

[floral perch]

Anyone got them new dims data? Like skills, si and divinities?

[floral perch]

Ok thanks

[pine sable]

yeah and i wanna be competitive lol big mistake cos top10 in our region is only possible for me cos people are nice to me

[timber cipher]

not accurate for companions yet

its a classic-version leak

[floral perch]

oh stats are different for companion? eh?

[timber cipher]

tbf some people in our region are starting to slack

[pine sable]

yuki got atelene yesterday i think lol but yeah they are spending less

[timber cipher]

yea we have divinity, we dont have +40, we usally dont have the e30

(furniture + e60 = divinity)

and we have more often than not other numbers

[floral perch]

ah noted

[timber cipher]

not just spending less, but like top 100 people are starting to care a bit less, people (even in our guild quit)

we already have 1 free slot and i believe leader just doesnt want to kick all out at once

s84 korean f.e. didnt bother aside from top 30 for a long time, sometimes skipped arena for a week at all

and then lately he just quit

[pine sable]

2 of our strongest members also just quit rough times

and we also have basically 3 to 4 open slots

[timber cipher]

im stacked in celestials almost at aTalene and he matches me btw.

[floral perch]

numbers might be different but it seems both dims are good for different things

one for bosses one for everything else

[timber cipher]

cha hae is a lot dependent on sung jinwoo

sung jinwoo can work alone

rather boss/pvp oriented yea

[pine sable]

my only strong celestial is talene and shes a2

[timber cipher]

but if you can get sung jinwoo to snowball you can rng stages with his kill / level-up conditions

[dapper trout]

whats the investment in ur opinion for both?

[timber cipher]

idk order for e30, furniture 3, furniture 9

so cant say asc

[vapid lava]

Max

[timber cipher]

but cha hae +30 seems op

tho char could be flop

[pine sable]

probably a5 si20 minimum as usual

[dapper trout]

ah icic

[pine sable]

i will get them both to a5 si20 anyways

[dapper trout]

damn max both

[timber cipher]

idk sung jinwoo energy drain isnt that crazy as you guys think, its really good for pvp and some pve

[dapper trout]

oh is that the usual? dang i thought it was a3 20

[floral perch]

cha +30 seems appropriate

[vapid lava]

Ideally you max it then for pvp

[pine sable]

depends heavily on the a3/a5 abilities but normally u want a5 dims yeah

[dapper trout]

😔 i dont know if i got the funds to a5 both sad

[timber cipher]

yea for sure but ideally you max every char - if we min max ressources, we cannot afford it

[floral perch]

for my use +20 jin woo seems enough

[pine sable]

i mean dims have better scaling than normal heroes

so u want them at a higher ascension

[dapper trout]

yeah thats fair

not denying that xD

[timber cipher]

am just speaking from general player terms obv i can just spend on weekly 150 red emblems 50$ 2x and +30 a char, but dont really feel like doing it all the time

[vapid lava]

Do you have enough red chests for both?

[timber cipher]

like i bought that weekly merchant thingy once, because of value/% and it doesnt compare with the good 285 red emblem special offer that i unfortunately do not get anymore

[pine sable]

the $50 bundle ur talking about is 60 for us

[timber cipher]

no

[vapid lava]

Same

[timber cipher]

talking in mithril values lmao

I've 355 red emblems

[pine sable]

yeah then it works haha

i got 50 take it or leave it

i did my talene recently

[timber cipher]

some people have regional pricing so i take the untaxed values

[vapid lava]

Mithril is nice.

Yeah you have triple mine

[timber cipher]

its not that different tho lmao

[pine sable]

still a shit load of money for something completely useless in life

[floral perch]

im fully f2p but i have seen the price actually increase

[vapid lava]

I should probably buy the reds but im saving everything

[floral perch]

so for some region the price also flactuate with the currency it seems

[pine sable]

i was talking about EU prices never seen the prices change either

[timber cipher]

its typical for gacchas, like maxing chars is always a bottomless hole - thats why i dont want to get in classic or other games that could be worse

[pine sable]

as if companions isnt terrible in that regard already lmao

[vapid lava]

[pine sable]

i cant type its too early/late

[timber cipher]

believe someone in hungary or romania had regional prices that were worse and €/$ value

like he had to pay extra

[floral perch]

damn

better somehow use vpn?

[pine sable]

welp € is pretty stable so the prices have remained the same in the last 6 months

at least for me in germany

[timber cipher]

believe thats banable, someone can try - im to deep for trying

[floral perch]

XD

[pine sable]

i wanna see ur bank send u a letter asking u why ur buying shit in the phillipines with ur credit card

[timber cipher]

i just know someone refunded once everything and ended up with -2mil diamonds

[floral perch]

wait refund?

[pine sable]

i saw a coc post where someone had over a trillion gems debt as well lmfao

[floral perch]

as in reset acc get everything back?

[timber cipher]

think there is no good explanation

[floral perch]

2 mil diamonds is around 20k pulls hmm

[pine sable]

would be hilarious tho, sometimes u get a notification from ur bank if they suspect weird transactions

[floral perch]

tell the bank you were just involve in online gambling that works right?

[timber cipher]

yea f.e. you can apply in court and say you're an addict and game did unhealthy malpractises without checks for doing so (f.e. in eu)

and then you could get the right to get all your money back (from google) but obviously google acc would get locked

heard afk acc doesnt get banned, you just dont get to play modes anymore that are multiplayer and you are "in debt"

[pine sable]

not suspicious at all

[floral perch]

no really online gambling is so popular these days that its real

you are technically not even lying

[pine sable]

yeah but if ur transferring money to somewhere in east asia it might be money laundering so that would be funny

[floral perch]

true

[timber cipher]

i think its nice we have these customer rights, but damn i wouldnt like to have an online game or something like that because of that bs

like imagine a children spending X money, and you get the refund for it, like not only do you lose out on the money, you also need to either automize a refund system or pay the accountant responsible for that, that needs to check the refunds

[floral perch]

as far as i know only eu countries have access to those type of services anyway

[timber cipher]

think they'll just google the company in most cases before calling you

see "lilith studio" -> see ahh gaccha game, someone fell into their traps again

and approve the transaction

[floral perch]

everywhere else is just fked

[timber cipher]

yea everywhere else is fked

and eu is fked if using mithril since only google does that

[pine sable]

they activated their trap card for me

[timber cipher]

think if you use their store, you'd have to take them to court and i dont think it'd go through to a court unless its a really really big amount we're talking about (mithril store)

[pine sable]

414 is beating my ass in wilder tower im close to kasu

[pine sable]

would have to be a lot of money yeah

[timber cipher]

im in every tower so far that i only have 1-3 infront of me
(except lb)

[pine sable]

like global?

[timber cipher]

yep

[pine sable]

i dont have mira

[timber cipher]

wilder

[pine sable]

so my gb tower is complete garbage

[timber cipher]

ahhh lmao

gb tower has now 4 in front i lied

how could i forget a5 new pet

ahh yes

[pine sable]

i got 2 crassios last 3d and 2 skregs but no mira for a month

new a5 pet is insane

thats not a gb tower anymore thats just awakened pet tower

[timber cipher]

and some people use max oden aswell

[pine sable]

nah there is always someone with deeper pockets

[timber cipher]

ig a2 +30

[pine sable]

good campaign/tower unit

[timber cipher]

yea i dont have the funds to deal with those comps

i need to retry with my poor mans comps

and im already big big

[pine sable]

yeah u a giga whale

also u guys aint seeing any land against us in gf btw lol

[timber cipher]

im enjoying the lost coinflips we had a 50/50 for scorch and as far as im told we were way ahead on that city and you guys lasthittet it away

[pine sable]

i told a lot of people to take siege specialist

idk if they did but i hope thats what helped

[timber cipher]

we did too

[pine sable]

we wouldve taken it next day anyways

[timber cipher]

no defense is busted

[pine sable]

we are a tad bit stronger

[timber cipher]

you only need like 1/3 to defend

[pine sable]

we will see today

[timber cipher]

like we prob aint taking shit off ya anymore lmao

[pine sable]

with ur t7 lol

[floral perch]

as far as im concerned the frontier/expedition mode is always gonna be scuffed for my server unless they disable moving around leagues

[pine sable]

they better NOT remove being able to move from ur league

that mode is dead if they do

[timber cipher]

i was asked to join but, i felt like there was no good time to leave and i had fun in this league aswell and didnt want to betray them after they did that much already - so next time we'll just plan it out before - instead of whatever we have rn

think the oath stuff just really made it weird for lots of people

[pine sable]

next season should just be peace between to big leagues

[timber cipher]

(i didnt even take the oath)

[pine sable]

i cba with the stress

i have the oath but i couldnt care less

i just want to farm and chill

[timber cipher]

yea I'll just align in the first 2-3 days and then do a big farm/chill round again

[floral perch]

some people take it too seriously and made their alt acc join other leagues with only 1 team to spy the league chat which is hilarious to me XD

[pine sable]

we have some zombie leagues as well under our control but tbh i just want to do nothing

[timber cipher]

oh it gets worse we even made last time alt accs in every league so we can deputy/leader them and kick everyone out of the leagues if necessary

[pine sable]

leading a league is a pain in the ass

[floral perch]

fk haaahahaha

[timber cipher]

kicking is a rather good feature tho to kick your own folks so they dont have the 2d punishment

[floral perch]

yeah making it guild vs guild would had been more interesting for me

like the treasure hunt mode but actually have things to do

[pine sable]

nah guild vs guild would be the death of me

[timber cipher]

guild vs guild would be bad for me too lmao

[floral perch]

eh?

[pine sable]

i am super active and my guild is strong but they are all very reserved players so its kinda hard to get smth going

[timber cipher]

guild treassure hunt was me being #1st and my whole guildies being like #11-15

and the others filling in inbetween

[floral perch]

oh

[timber cipher]

like its so giga competitive that its hard if your on a "bad server"

[pine sable]

yeah we barely won cos we had one of our strong member who quit completely afking it and getting points LMFAO

[timber cipher]

lmao

[floral perch]

hahaha

[pine sable]

next time were gonna lose im pretty sure and then i get shit rewards

i want cross server guilds

[timber cipher]

yea glad that i managed to cheese a 2nd for our guild or smth like that all 4 guilds were pretty close

[floral perch]

this i agree

[pine sable]

that treasure hunt was so stacked lmfao

[floral perch]

i mean they already do cross server arenas

cross server guilds should be doable

[timber cipher]

i had to freaking pvp cheese

[timber cipher]

they did it for abex sooner or later in classic, they started with like "miltias" and out of the militias they made crossserver guilds but that took plenty of time

so we'll see what they'll do with companions

[floral perch]

man spire rng is bad today, my share was 8 chest, now it only increased to 10 chest

ah noted

militias huh

[timber cipher]

been getting also the 220diamond 2 chest thingy sometimes

[pine sable]

wym?

[timber cipher]

you have bans

[floral perch]

literally had someone hit the spire boss twice XD

that freakin luck

[pine sable]

if ur a battle star u mean?

[timber cipher]

and you know f.e. that shalltear team 99% goes with albedo

[timber cipher]

yea

and then you can kinda cheese ban and force specific type of fights

[pine sable]

ohh lol didnt know that im not a battle star

thats fucked haha

[timber cipher]

you have 3 teams with bans 2 teams with no bans

and 5 fighting teams

and every ban team has one ban

like one hero

[pine sable]

and then u avoid strong comps to farm points right?

[timber cipher]

and the "ban" teams avoid battling these teams

well we have kinda 2 comps that rule everything atm

shalltear and trishea

so i build it arround that so that my shalltear would face if possible no other shalltear

and my trishea faces off specifically other trisheas but not shalltear aswell

and 3rd team was aBrutus not facing off against trishea - so trishea it'd end up in a trishea vs trishea

and aBrutus vs shalltear

and then we had gbs and lbs being weird and fine-ish but not great

+- hypogean/celestials or w.e. is left

[pine sable]

ahh okay didnt know that

[timber cipher]

(you cant ban a hero twice)

but welp i could f.e. ban shalltear and ban albedo

[pine sable]

makes me happy im not a battle star and could just chill

u guys just pulled all ur forces back to defend that t7

[timber cipher]

idk mobilizations are send weirdly so that a lot of filler teams fight against each other and the strong teams kinda avoid each other

i do not command on this event

[pine sable]

however this turns out ggs

[cold current]

Anyone has an active guild on server 207?

[cobalt heart]

Can someone explain pvp.. Because it makes no sense who wins or loses
I lost a match
But it was
Win win win lose win..

[timber cipher]

scroll right

[timber cipher]

if you swipe you'll figure out there are more than 5 fights

[echo finch]

swipe to the right on the number buttons at the top

[ebon sand]

I had good hopes but the last squad vaporizes anything I put in front of it for some reason

Anything not Thoran doesn't last 2s

Eh wrong SS

[floral perch]

fkin hell is that how late game looks like for leviathans? over 100 levels and 100m power deficit?

tho i assume overlord units does alot of lifting too

[twin marsh]

Nah that’s only yom

[floral perch]

noted

man them animation are meh

compared to slime dims/ overlord dims

the new dims are not flashy at all

i dont even know if there are other dims, at least youtube has not offered a clip of others so far

[twin marsh]

Yeah slime was pretty good

But his ult looks good imo, the rest sucks tho

[floral perch]

maybe i was being too harsh coz chae's animation is similar to thane but thane's is cooler

oh its 23 spirits for a5 right? i have 26 atm i think, so i only need to pull 20 to get both of them up

[timber cipher]

brutus shreds your frontliners PR by 50 (so a lot of armor is gone)

Anthandra marks enemies so that enemy team has 25 CR (crit chnance) against that target

Belinda gains up to 25 CR (+6) for every 200 energy or shields created from enemies

She and the highest attack rating hero get base 25% crit and atk rating increase

So you have basically frontliners that are instantly crit to death

[twin marsh]

Yeah

But how do you have 26 damn

Gimme some

[floral perch]

last dim event for dungeon meshi i pulled but did not upgrade them

coz i found their animation boring

specially marci

marci might be strong but eh

[timber cipher]

not sure maybe high dodge is an answer here - belinda would still be able to hit but aside from it could dodge 4 people

something like desira +20 backline

and rowan frontline

then like arthus, albedo ainz?

could also try desira thoran /// w/o rowan

[timber cipher]

Can say laios a1/+20 is nice utility for bossing/guild hunt score if necessary

and yea marci a5 +20/+30 shreds almost everything

like good in every mode, a cheat death for the team, pretty nice to have

but for now we can see how solo leveling dims perform

[floral perch]

yeah my current plan is to see how good the solo leveling units are if they are not up to par, ill just build marci and laois

[timber cipher]

sung jinwoos kit and movement is nieche enough to work with the self cleanse

self cleanse on shalltear is really op - tho she gets invurnerability on top on t hat cleanse so its not the same

i just think the levelup on kill might be nieche enough to work

because on levelup he is full hp/full energy

[floral perch]

oh level up only works on kill huh

i thought it was timer, i misremembered

[timber cipher]

on kill and every 15s

[floral perch]

AH

[timber cipher]

has two conditions

[floral perch]

but no direct cheat death right?

[timber cipher]

if the timer doesn't reset from killing on level up then it could be really good

[timber cipher]

no only the cleanse

[twin marsh]

That’s gonna be rough

[floral perch]

oh true if the timer resets every kill that would be bad

[timber cipher]

yea thats kinda the dealbreaker whether im intrested in him or not

i will test that out in his trials and figure out

[floral perch]

oh i finally found a reason to do the scarecrow thing on trials XD

i never firgured out what it was for but now i know

[timber cipher]

hm you can figure it out in real fights aswell by just using tanks or utility supps with him but yea if not you can use the scarecrow

[twin marsh]

Maybe the untargetable effect will help him out a bit if he casts that at the beginning of battle

[timber cipher]

yea thats good + the way he positiones behind the enemy from the vids is also really good

[weak blaze]

If i understood his abilities correctly he is like ainz in higher deficits

[timber cipher]

kinda- he is reverse ainz he starts slow but cooks fast afterwards

ainz powers-up fast and becomes strongest after the 15s condition where he stuns all enemies and takes out 50% of their hp

[weak blaze]

Once he Levels up After 15 sec he gets into a cycle of Stunning and killing

[weak blaze]

And u win

[timber cipher]

the thing is ainz only needs one 15s timer hit

[twin marsh]

I mean, I doubt he’ll be bad. He’ll not be a hyper carry on his own like Shalltear, but I can see him doing more dmg than her

[timber cipher]

idk if the killing will reset the timer for jinwoo

if not then yea 15s will be big, otherwise it could be kinda mid

[twin marsh]

Dude I hope not

That would be so bad

[floral perch]

thats smething we all agree on

XD

[weak blaze]

What do u think about cha ?

[timber cipher]

cha is an additional kinda like laios

[weak blaze]

I Hope it does

[twin marsh]

What?

[timber cipher]

has her nieche but kinda wants the levelups aswell as the crit rating from jinwoo

[twin marsh]

Why

[weak blaze]

Why wouldnt i want the new dims to be good?

Ah my bad

I missunderstood

[timber cipher]

language barrier

[floral perch]

XD

[weak blaze]

Haha

[twin marsh]

Lmao all good

[floral perch]

i mean +30 cha seems great for bosses but its just similar to misha right?

[timber cipher]

idk i need to test cha alone without jinwoo

she has high numbers, but is a fragile melee warrior like laios is

and laios has a lot of self healing build in

[weak blaze]

Wouldnt that make her comparible to Rem?

[timber cipher]

so i kinda dont think that cha will be the saviour

her +30 will be an nice addition for pve bossing or like abex if it ever comes again

the thing about rem is, rem has even higher numbers and easier sweeping abilities

cha doesnt have that aoe

only in her ult

[weak blaze]

Hm okay

[twin marsh]

Cha feels like a bossing unit, and even for that you kinda want jinwoo paired with her. His kit sounds more complete

[timber cipher]

would agree

like the 70% on level up from jinwoo
the crit rating from the pair up with jinwoo

like its all kinda nice to have

but if she just runs in like laios does and like laios if he doesnt cast his ult, he will just fall over and die

then she is really low-mid prio because laios +20 is easier to get than cha +30 for the damage amp

because jinwoo can work alone

and because you can slot in laios with other teams than marci

so we need to figure out whether cha flops or not and in theorie she kinda already flopped unfortunately

[twin marsh]

Let’s go 🗣️

[weak blaze]

Did they ever buff chars in retrospec?

[twin marsh]

Hope she lets me build albedo in peace

[timber cipher]

like cha sounds like a thane on crack

and i can see a comp like

Jinwoo
Brutus(normal)
Mehira
+1 celestial or dim
Cha

[twin marsh]

Don’t you think they would just die?

[timber cipher]

i need to see how they interact with each other while bursting down the target

[timber cipher]

most likely if the enemy team has aoe or something else to focus past the brutus for sure

but that is the only team i could see cha in

while sung jinwoo can be more flexible

like maybe mehira is overkill and can be replaced

but i would like to see what a cha on crack can do

because of that mehira might be a key

[twin marsh]

Tbf if they both dive in onto the same target, it could be pretty good to get his level up fast

[timber cipher]

mehira gives 65 haste for 8s + cha gains her own haste ontop

• owl 20 haste
• 25 haste zone

believe 100 haste == 2x speed iirc (could be wrong about that)

but would make it that she can get 160 haste very fast at the start of the battle

and if that theoriecraft works

and she doesnt die

than thats op

if she dies - it doesnt matter

[twin marsh]

I like it

I thought of something like

Jinwoo
Cha
Marci for the cheat death
Albedo +30 to help them survive a bit
And then another utility hero. Lyca, Mehira, Brutus etc

[timber cipher]

for pvp and bossing solid

for tower/ff/campaign marci kinda works most often already as a solution - would have to see

thing i dont like with these pair ups we have no real utility healer for dims

like laios at best but he is too coinflippy

[twin marsh]

Yeah man we need that dude from classic

[timber cipher]

might be able to use silas with them

[timber cipher]

yea Merlin would be really nice to have rn

[twin marsh]

Sucks to know he’ll probably be just like Arthur

[timber cipher]

silas does t he job + gives meelees attackspeed which is with haste insane

[twin marsh]

I thought the same for pvp tbh, maybe even throwing Mira in there to try to buy them some time?

[timber cipher]

so if we think about a pve bossing comp this could be crack

jinwoo
silas
mehira
albedo/laios
cha

++ owl

[twin marsh]

Does he survive front line?

[timber cipher]

bossing 100%

he has 70 dodge

for pvp sometimes

in the weird X moss/swamp setup i use silas front

like where you have 2 front, 1 middle, 2 back

[twin marsh]

I lowkey wanna make my Silas +30 eventually

[timber cipher]

is nice to have but no prio tbf since graveborn and lightborn comps are atm really weak

his attackspeed increase is very nice tho aswell as the atk increase - but on pvp you're most likely pretty fast below 50% health and then its kinda useless

[twin marsh]

Yeah I’m still missing quite a few before him

Albedo
Lyca
Talene?
New dims?
ABrutus?

[timber cipher]

albedo +30, lyca +30 is something that i can for sure agree on that will always keep their value

ig lyca could drop in far future, but with the current releases we're far from it

[twin marsh]

How do you feel about Talene’s?

[timber cipher]

dont have her myself that, I believe the 200 energy itself is quite low prio and nieche - sure sometimes some nice quicker healing after she's reborn

and in spending her life to heal other, she might reborn faster again because she was low and died and stack her 25%/40% atk/def buffs faster

but in terms of pve and such its mainly for the base stats and the small haste increase

[timber cipher]

like hard to tell - its not really noticeable in pvp for me

can be clutch in some ff/campaign/tower solutions again - but idk

she's the best hero for burning brute and seems to be the best hero for guild hunt tho

[twin marsh]

I see

I might hold off on that tho

Especially with the new dims now

Got 830 reds tho, hopefully I don’t have to spend all of them this ds

[timber cipher]

i think your base plan should be albedo a3 +30

-300 reds

then decide whether you want something that is more pvp, more guildhunt/dream or more campaign/ff/tower oriented and ask about your inbox again

if your talene is a5 you could do talene because idk sailus prio is talene > lyca iirc

if jinwoo is working and you wanna all in on a new dim it might be jinwoo

[twin marsh]

Ye I wanna do it so bad

Been saving it for too long

[timber cipher]

Yea 830 is insane

[white hemlock]

Will jinwoo be stronger than the girl?

[timber cipher]

he is more flexible and has f.e. self cleanse/healing and untargetability

so he is for sure more usable then her

cha-haes +30 sounds really good tho, but she could suffer from the same problems as laios does

we dont have the companions numbers yet, everything is based on classic leaks

-> so all that we say can be off

[white hemlock]

I see i see

Thanks for the masterclass

[mint osprey]

i hope they pretty op

[timber cipher]

did someone mix max arena comps - can test tomorrow but best I've seen so far was this from crown

I'd try splitting off some support from talene comp and trying to figure out from there

maybe even trying walker as soon as i have him

[maiden hare]

yeah walker can hit for 4B on that boss but he needs twins in comp

still experimenting

[maiden hare]

you should do albedo si30 if you don't have her already

[twin marsh]

Yeah I’ll do it this event

Probably A3 +30
And then A5 +30 one of the new ones, depending on how they perform

[maiden hare]

yeah it's better to wait

I feel like they won't be anything crazy to be honest

not here to say precisely, another game in classic

[mint osprey]

4days right ?

until collab

We have no companion leaks which is quite scary

[maiden hare]

no one is data mining stuff here the "invested" playerbase is almost non-existent

[mint osprey]

😔

we need tap b for bacon as affiliated content creator

so we have info and can give feedback to devs

[twin marsh]

Would be so crazy if they made jinwoo mid

[maiden hare]

he would be mid at best from my thoughts and nerfs he should receive here

but well lets hope that I'm wrong this time

[twin marsh]

Stop bro

What about Cha?

[maiden hare]

it seems like a lot of their kit will only shine on max out investment, which we doesn't even get here in companions, also e60 and f9 are another thing, we only get e30 or e60 and f3 or f9 buffs here, both of them want both of those buffs

si40 seems also like a huge factor in their overall usability, if we don't get those buffs here than idk about them in overall things, like they won't be useless but I don't see them shine anywhere with the likely "nerfs" (or better to say with the stuff they will be missing here)

but I'm being very optimistic here, so I hope they will be better than in my head

[twin marsh]

Hopefully they do something like they did with ABrutus

[maiden hare]

yeah that would be the best outcome

[twin marsh]

And not just “copy paste” what their kits are actually supposed to be here

[silent ravine]

Tbh jinwoo exists just for cha to crit

Also cha e60 is deadass useless

[vapid lava]

Isn't that server 1 day old. You should make the active guild haha

[pine sable]

allg im getting both

[cold current]

I guess I can, but I don't have time for ts

[maiden hare]

1st hero from friend points in the last ~2/3 months

[cold current]

Nice

[mint osprey]

Hey chat

[cold current]

Hey

[twin marsh]

Damn

[quick hinge]

: /

Thought he would stayed

@remote canopy

[hoary meadow]

Damn

[cold current]

Ayo, what's that

We can summon skins now?

[magic tree]

Infinite summons event

[timber cipher]

is it based on using pulls or like what is the gimmic, would love to see that explanation of it

[lusty plank]

Time to nolife for the Talene skin

#need

[molten quail]

Hate to break it to you bro

[vapid lava]

Skraith skin is worth

[quick hinge]

Lyca skin

[vapid lava]

If only we could get more than one

Mehira skin ✨️

[left charm]

would try every day for the whole event searching for the 5 pull lol

[vapid lava]

Yup

Exactly

But my chicken man has got a crazy outfit for sure. 100% going for that one

Most different out of all of them

[left charm]

On the bright side, it feels pretty easy to get skin + 2 elite's one of which is cele/hypo, seen it a few times from half an hour

[deep solar]

So is jinwoo also coming to companions at the same time or do we have to wait ages

[left charm]

Same time

[deep solar]

Cool. Do we know when?

[left charm]

30th

[deep solar]

Oh really very nice

[vapid lava]

Plus all the other stuff

[deep solar]

It's jinwoo and chae?

[vapid lava]

If they fixed expedition and added lab the game would be a dream rn

[left charm]

"Please locate the labyrinth before unlocking it." haunts me, chapter 55 clear needed

[left charm]

yeah Jinwoo and Hae-in

[deep solar]

I liked lab. Will enjoy seeing it back.

[vapid lava]

Biggest plot twist It's been here the whole time

[deep solar]

Lmao awful

Sorry I keep spamming questions lol. Do we know what hae-in and jinwoo do?

[left charm]

Only a vague idea from their classic kits

[deep solar]

Big pog

[vapid lava]

From classic, so expect some changes

[deep solar]

Right true

[vapid lava]

But overall I would expect them to be similar more or less

[deep solar]

Are other dims from classic changed much? I know the regular characters can be pretty different

[vapid lava]

Cha looks better on paper but has a reliance on Jinwoo. Both may be pretty good for bossing content. Jinwoo may carry in pvp at SI30. Unfortunately looking like both will be SI30 though

[deep solar]

Last time I played classic was before dims kek

[vapid lava]

Uhhhh I'm not sure as to exact changes but we typically dont get the SI40/50, and will get something similar to the 3f or 9f buff and something similar to e30 or e60 but never all of it

^ through our divinity system

[quick hinge]

@timber cipher

[timber cipher]

mhm?

[quick hinge]

Nub

When collab?

[deep solar]

@vapid lava thx you've been helpful

[timber cipher]

30th if you're not in a cursed timezone

[timber cipher]

planing your return?

[quick hinge]

Also sen's pet

Does numbers

[quick hinge]

Hell no

[timber cipher]

ye that pet is bussin

am a bit tired out tbf social events instead of chill time is kinda draining lmao

[quick hinge]

?

[timber cipher]

kasu I'll become a recluse, makes live easier

[quick hinge]

Oh

Become me then?

[quick hinge]

Also

[cold current]

So unlimited summons is like a separate banner or does the regular summons count?

[timber cipher]

mhm wish i would get 5 days of homeoffice to recluse there and then 2 days of social time on weekends instead of onsite work with having to be plenty social and then on weekend family and friends