companions-chat

[timber cipher]

sure, feel free to ask

[ebon sand]

if you're comfortable recording gameplay and uploading it here, I'd like you to record my fights of 44-60 in the same format I've done before: showing the dmg done by both sides then the gear page then the replay, if it's not too much of a hassle I'd be super grateful

if it is, don't sweat it I understand, it bothers me I couldn't do it myself, all because of that network error I got and the evening I was too slow to stop autobattle 😒

[timber cipher]

I cannot show the equipment (since I'm not on the stage and dont have the view as in "formations mode") but everything else

[ebon sand]

I'll gladly take it 🙂

[timber cipher]

Y0M 44-60

1. Gwyneth - Owl (a6)
2. Mira - Spirit Orb (a7)
3. Shalltear/Ainz - Ice Crown (a6)
4. Crassio/Audrae/aBrutus - Fire Breather (a6 double crit)
5. Trishea/Marcielle - Grassy Orb (a7)

[timber cipher]

damn your pets are huge mine are pretty little compared to that i only have one a7 tufty

[ebon sand]

wow, that 433 battle was indeed SUPER lucky, damn

[timber cipher]

most of my pets are a5-ish

[ebon sand]

I finally got my owl to a6 just today!

[timber cipher]

very nice! would love if we would have crit on owl, ice crown and deer aswell

or idk if we'd be silly haste on owl
crit block rate or crit defense idk whats it called on deer
and something like insight on ice crown

first 3 fights of 44-60 are with 1 surviving hero barely
4th and 5th seemed like freebees

[ebon sand]

looking like that rn

[ebon sand]

yeah it's insane how I barely made it

that's why I was so pissed at the network error before leaving for work I had doubts I'd manage to reiterate

and thanks a lot for the recording!!!

https://tenor.com/view/headbanging-beavis-butt-head-mike-judge's-beavis-and-butt-head-s2-e3-gif-7029717243141802144

[timber cipher]

love beevis and butthead

no worries, thanks for all the push, you're keeping up the game and making people want to push on further with you

[ebon sand]

👍

[ebon sand]

yeah me too, I couldn't understand English yet when it was airing though, maybe finding it online is something I should add to my todo list

[timber cipher]

idk was at a weird time where i watched pletny stuff with a friend that just flew to murica from baveria

and then we were like remote watching rick and morty, beevis and butthead, happy tree friends and other stuff

found a winning solution for 435

[ebon sand]

good job, I was watching replays lol

[timber cipher]

still need to win that tho

[ebon sand]

wouldn't it be funny to have mauler tower further than the wilders one

[timber cipher]

OH HELL NAH whats that

we have the numisu orthros flora special

[ebon sand]

ABrutus definitely more impactful than Solise rn, they did our tree loving girl dirty at lillith :<

[timber cipher]

lots of classic folk said aSolise > aBrutus aslong as no divinity

but yea aBrutus cc alone feels sooo good

[ebon sand]

hmm skriath without crassio, would've taken me a while to figure this one out

[timber cipher]

nah 436 seems impossible 2 seconds in only aBrutus alive with

[ebon sand]

assuming I beat it though, my Skriath is a bit poopoo

[timber cipher]

I think you might need to cheese arround having a few more levels and trying something with cc and crassio

but my tidus always died instantly

so kren middle was kinda nice

and salaki was kinda needed for survivability

[ebon sand]

I couldn't believe it when I beat the crazy orthos floor because of tidus

his gear is shit he usually insta dies

[timber cipher]

436 feels already worse

but yea that orthros stage before was already pain

salaki makes my team survive 22s total with aBrutus

4 teammates die in like 10-15s

and i dont kill anything because numisu 25% damage reduction, heal totem, totem targets

[lusty plank]

nice shade of green broski

hmm it's teal technically

[vapid lava]

105 lv deficient....

[timber cipher]

aaa yea i recently leveld up was already over 40 and then was like could tell them

[ebon sand]

if I'm stuck at 435 because of my SI20 bird it'll be hard to prevent myself from using emblems before the new dims are out

[timber cipher]

y0m needs to be sealed

learning to hoard - let your inner messi out in afk

gonna get some bread and sleep, have to do onsite since this week

[ebon sand]

I'm learning to hoard scrolls, pity card and even an LB card rn

it's hard af

[timber cipher]

get that like doing the 10 as a daily was so simple for dailies aswell now you have to do some side thingy

[ebon sand]

I got myself a T1 mage stone today, not sure if I use it on Marcille, Scarlet or wait for the dims

I just noticed you also got a 3rd * on Kren, nice

oh nice I just had enough fodders to give Skriath the last star on his staff, let's go birdie boy!

[timber cipher]

very nice

its a hard thing to say - for pushing prob marci or new dims (in terms of what we're using/spamming atm)

also verryy nice with skriath

yea i chose kren from the oden chest to star him up tbf

because i dont see myself pulling oden that quickly and will probably very slowly build him

[maiden hare]

to be honest, Abrutus is only better in Campaign becasue he has x3 death cheat here, he doesnt have that in classic

[ebon sand]

at least it shows that they're aware that without something new he would've been a huge disappointment

now for them to remember ASolise exists

she just needs faster energy at battle start and a tad more dmg in my view

maybe they think Solise is ok because Trish is busted and the two of them even things out idk

Yes!!! 435 done 🙂

gimme those!

I just swapped to Crassio after 40 fails and it worked somehow

this is cursed wtf

orthos and flora! ILLEGAL!

[runic quail]

Diabolical 😂

[ebon sand]

yeah it's gonna be a wall for a while I think

but for now, 9 clears in a day was super nice 🥳

unless iperx can cook something insane but I can't help but shake the feeling our Rc lvls are just too low for that kind of craziness

[hollow river]

That’s criminal

[ebon sand]

yeah, even without the faction restriction I'd shit my pants

[hollow river]

I mean it’d be difficult but still doable easily while the faction your way more limited

So it’ll just take a lot more time to cook up a team to beat it

[ebon sand]

for orthos the way I usually beat it is with insane frontload dmg, like trish+mira+marcille and 2 tanks, or full wilders, with the current mauler options I have no clue

[hollow river]

Yeah

[ebon sand]

or just give my gwyn red/golden clothes with a mask for a while and we'd be talking

[hollow river]

I’m currently struggling with my lack of kren

[hollow river]

Yeah lol

[ebon sand]

yeah a lot us passed him, myself included, and I'm slowly catching up through standard pulls

but even at 2* with shit gear he was doing his job of being useful through CCs

[hollow river]

Mines elite

So I can’t say that he’s very useful

[ebon sand]

just keep him in WL and he'll come eventually, I got him to 2* surprisingly fast, counting myself luck on that front

[hollow river]

Yeah I have him WL just can’t pull maulers to save my life

[ebon sand]

it do be like that sometimes

for me it's the GBs lol

[hollow river]

I only pull LB recently

I haven’t really pulled anyone recently that’s good

[ebon sand]

the wheel does turn! just hoard for a bit and go all in with the new dims and you might get back from that string of bad luck in an incredible way

[hollow river]

Hopefully

[ebon sand]

🤞

[twin marsh]

My luck with gbs is wild

I’d be able to 5* ABaden right away if he came out rn

Meanwhile Athane would barely be 2* lmao

[ebon sand]

I'm getting curious about the sololvling collab now, I think it'd be funny if the woman is stronger than jinwoo 😮

[hollow river]

I mean it could happen cause waifu in model game tends to equal more money

[ebon sand]

yeah they did our boy Laios a bit dirty but he isn't exactly a powerhouse in the show either

[hollow river]

Never saw it

[ebon sand]

you should! it's one of those shows the synopsis of did nothing at all to make me wanna watchbut once I eventually did I was immediately drawn in

I think I watched it all in one or maybe two sittings tops

[hollow river]

Is it dungeon meshi right

[ebon sand]

the world building is the MC of that show, everything is so coherent you're like "ok, makes total sense" which you know isn't the standard at all with anime

yeah

[hollow river]

Okay I’ll watch it soon

[plucky fulcrum]

Are we going to get anything from classic?

Any other modes

Seems fucking odd they arent adding a thing

[ebon sand]

I don't think they've ever communicated on that topic but I could be wrong

[hollow river]

To be honest haven’t really pushed in awhile

[swift depot]

By this point I got no idea where they want to go with Companions other than Expedition and monthly Awakened Pets

Like it's insane we haven't gotten Laberynth

[hollow river]

Yeah I do be getting bored recently

[swift depot]

I feel they will do Region wide Dream Realm and have Leafs as ranking rewards

[hollow river]

That would hurt me more then it would help

[twin marsh]

Same

Been a while since I got excited for something here

Hopefully they deliver

[ebon sand]

I kind of don't mind tbf but I'm an exception as I don't play classic and never have but I wanted a game where I can tinker with heroes, start a fight and hope for the best and I still like it for now

but new modes that would just be more of that would be totally fine by me

I'm just not a fan of expedition and abex even

just gimme a mode where I could grind for gear and I'd be a happy camper

[hollow river]

lol

Hey I finally beat 41-32

[ebon sand]

congrats!!!!

I bet it's one of those stages once you beat you can be on a roll for a little while

44-32 was an insane wall for me

[hollow river]

I feel every 32 stage is a wall

But to be fair I’m like 4 levels under everyone else that beat it

[ebon sand]

double congrats then 🙂

[hollow river]

I’m just gonna copy sailus’ formations and hope the rest of the stages are easy

[maiden hare]

I don't want to say that you shouldn't but that's like the worst thing possible

I'm testing a lot of weird stuff in campaign that could be done better

"potezny AFK JR" or something like that have a really good f2p friendly comps

until chapter ~43

I copied/modified a lot of his comps when I'm not testing weird stuff

[hollow river]

Don’t worry I didn’t make it far and used a lot of different comps

[maiden hare]

[hollow river]

Only if my Marci had a T2 weapon

[ebon sand]

I still haven't used any stones on my marcille if it can help make you feel better

[arctic thunder]

yo guys is there any auto play on classic?

[ebon sand]

oh wait I lied her armor is t1

[arctic thunder]

im kinda tiered of just spammin battle battle battle battle

ops sorry this is companion chat mb

[ebon sand]

holy crap, I wasn't making any progress on this stage at all then I just swapped 2 chars placement and beat 3 squads in one autobattle session

this literally never happens

I'm probably cooked for the last 2

[hollow river]

Chapter 19 I think

[arctic thunder]

DAM when i reach that i wont have a need for that option cuz it will be all tryhard placment 💀

thank you for the info brother <<3

[hollow river]

Nah until chapter 31 it’s easy to progress

[hollow river]

It’s also actually 21 unfortunately

[plucky fulcrum]

Yeah that’s nuts.. there’s no way to give feedback? They’ve got all systems already done it wouldn’t be bad to add a new system maybe every 3 months or so

Also what’s the maximum lvl for beast list? I’m at 20 so far

I googled and couldn’t find an answer

[lusty plank]

There is….they just won’t read it lol

[plucky fulcrum]

Insane honestly.

[lusty plank]

I’ve already seen lvl 25

[plucky fulcrum]

Okay

I’ll get there eventually I’m on server 53

[lusty plank]

I’m also at 21

[plucky fulcrum]

I’m not a whale since December last year I think I’ve done maybe 30-40$ just buying monthly packs sometimes

[lusty plank]

I’ve only spent $60-$80 on companions I think

The money is on classic 😭

Companions is hardly worth whaling on

Way cheaper to whale on if u wanna dominate tho lol

Way smaller playerbase + XP wall fucks over new whales in terms of the campaign

I have a feeling Y0M/Berkiel is gonna be #1 for a while…

Zephyr gotta lock in

[ebon sand]

I haven't really checked at Zephyr's activity, not having him in my FL doesn't help but I have a feeling he plays in cycles

Like he hasn't progressed the main campaign long enough for me to eventually catch up and even pass him which took weeks but then he surprised me by clearing a few FF stages recently

I bet he could be at or close to ch46 if he wanted to

But also probably very burnt out after leading the way for many chapters, idk it's all suppositions

I love how on my phone the predictive writing gives me suppository before suppositions, like, wtf

[ebon sand]

is it Scarlet time to shine?

[hollow river]

Holy

[ebon sand]

I don't even know if I got a golden run or something it was my 1st attempt

[hollow river]

Bigger then what I get lol

[hollow river]

This is what my Belinda does

[ebon sand]

I see, nice!

[hollow river]

Crazy the difference between us you do a whole 10 billion more then me

[ebon sand]

Well, it seems like it was indeed a golden run, other attempts are more like 27-29b

[hollow river]

To be honest that’s probably a golden run for me

Yeah that was definitely my golden run

[ebon sand]

my top dps all did better than normal

[oak temple]

Two heroes back to back is crazy

[hollow river]

That damage is crazy

[ebon sand]

yup, I don't see that every day for sure, probably personal best all bosses included, unless I remember wrong which could very well be true

and gratz Faiz

[hollow river]

My best teams

[ebon sand]

Ohhhhh yesssss!!!!!!

[hollow river]

Congrats

Sad that it’s the same rewards

[ebon sand]

yup, I really didn't think I'd make it

dang, I'm still going

I'm starting to think that RC 391 was much more important than I thought, maybe it's a jump like 361 was

[maiden hare]

The thing with scarlet and twins is, that you need REALLY good rng for twins not to die in 20s

Belinda is overall better in that team and way less rng dependent

This was my Belinda hit

Oh didn’t saw that you put talene in there, I’ll test a few dozens combination like always tho

If we get anything better than last time I’ll post a new guide

[magic tree]

Dunno why I thought u were F2P Sailus. Surprised about the new pet in there

[unkempt prism]

Bro

[maiden hare]

well I got really lucky on pulls here, only spent like ~100$ on it

[maiden hare]

new walker meta incoming 👀

[verbal forge]

damn i kinda wanna make trishea +30 but maybe new dims will be op

[twin marsh]

I’d wait tbh

It’s only a week

[timid briar]

wtf

also just new pet stuff

i show all the test

now who is the kraken that is gonna test it

full build

[robust spire]

Wtf

[timid briar]

sneaky add

op secret

[robust spire]

What sorta buff did he receive to go from fodder to op

[timid briar]

i don't know

need more testing

i seen a whale testing it

russian are testing it

lets wait and see

maybe @ebon sand can test him

[maiden hare]

I think he is bugged

Nothing in his kit should do that much DMG for him

[left charm]

Test server patch notes, be advised though, there are no dims mentioned here on the test server, hence the unlimited summons section I believe haven't looked at a test server patch note for a dim release previously so anyone correcting/confirming would be great :)

[lusty plank]

GG @ebon sand

I didn’t realize RoadtoHeaven disbanded

[twin marsh]

wtf

Adding him to my wish list real quick

[timid briar]

ahah befor patch

[timid briar]

i think too

[maiden hare]

They gave walker that hidden x10 multiply that they robbed Anasta of

[oblique trellis]

whats that unlimited thingy

[twin marsh]

New game mode nice

[maiden hare]

Unlimited summons, you can roll as much as you want

And take it if you like it

[oblique trellis]

how many times can claim?

[maiden hare]

Once

If it stays like in classic

[oblique trellis]

ohkk, does it also get the 4x heroes

[maiden hare]

Idk we will need to see

[oblique trellis]

ty

[verbal forge]

unlimited summons is not something new

is the 10x scrolls everyday thingy i think

or not i might be wrong its worded differently

[timid briar]

yeah its named the same

[twin marsh]

It’s not

[cold current]

I don't understand, why are they called unlimited

[lusty plank]

No way what the hell is the meme hero actually doing stuff

[timid briar]

i swear its not. a bug

[maiden hare]

Well we will see next patch if that’s a bug or not😂

[bright ivy]

how beat this defence, guys?

[prisma forum]

Anfänger Gilde hier die noch Leute sucht ?

[lusty plank]

someone needs to si 30 5* walker

[ebon sand]

yeah well big brains moves happening in there, it flys over my head and I just follow tbh

[lusty plank]

jus join us twin 💔

we're gonna win anyways

[ebon sand]

nah I can't go against my mates it just wouldn't be right, it's probably lost for this round but they're learning the tropes we'll see the next one how it goes

[timber cipher]

damn that 60 crit amp in dream realm is working ig

[ebon sand]

I'm not that surprised he's working well, his skill descriptions looked good to me, now is he just useful for bossing or possible other applications, idk?

but it's getting ridiculous with the LBs and bossing

[timber cipher]

hmm not sure whenever he crits - like to build that up you'd love something like twins/mehira/owl haste and/or arthur/mortas to buff him

not sure where he'd fit with that slow buildup in our meta

[ebon sand]

belinda, gwyn, scarlet, rosaline, thane and now walker

forgot raine

[timber cipher]

lbs seem to be doing great for bossing yea

[ebon sand]

yeah you could easily make 3 teams with an lb dps in it, we're gonna need more slots on bosses soon

[timber cipher]

main issue (for walker) is prob that he like laios just runs into stuff and dies beside bossing

[brave plaza]

Patch notes anyone?

[cold current]

Not yet

[twin marsh]

.

[vital pond]

Why no dims

[ebon sand]

I laughed at this but to be fair he gets some use, sometimes even without Marcille!! (Once every blue moon)

[cold current]

I guess they're waiting to do an official reveal

[vapid lava]

@brave plaza

[brave plaza]

Thanks

[maiden hare]

Laois can be used in like every DR team without marcille, he is a really good support, don't understand the hate on my boi

only because he is not so good in the most useless mode in the game

[warm lagoon]

On the test server we only got and only get half of the patch notes because of the dimensionals

When dimensions come out on the test server they normally come out a day before the official server so the patch notes don't come out until the day before that

[undone slate]

Hi, Will the crossover event be also on companion?

[vapid lava]

Yes

[warm lagoon]

Kind of you will get the dimensions but you don't get the dimensions like you do on classic

[wanton cloak]

How many scrolls do i need to max the new dim, anyone knows the math?

[timber cipher]

Moste people that are in the dc/reddit/active in the ingame chat - are aware of that tho and most of them are prepping dim events.

[timber cipher]

46 souls for both to be a5 = 1200-1400 pulls (on average)

all milestones = 1700 scrolls = ends you up with 63 souls on average

[wanton cloak]

Thats alot xd and i thought i have saved up enough

[timber cipher]

so you could say basically for one 600-700 scrolls to max

welp you still have one more month of time while the event is running to spent diamonds, scrolls

and then there are freebees with the event releasing

and lenty people who spent on the good value deals that are releasing to those times

[wanton cloak]

I am f2p so yea but atleast i can a5 one as i have 448 scrolls and about 44k dias so its good

[timber cipher]

i can show you a graph of 100mil simulations (milestones + pulls)

i rather tell the "bad odd average" than the better odds - so you can be pleasently surprised

but at worst you might end up with like 1500ish pulls

[wanton cloak]

So these are the probabilities?

[wanton cloak]

Ohh yea i get youu

[timber cipher]

yep math behind it is here, did help out with it - but code is mainly by @maiden hare https://github.com/aesoopIT/afk_companion/blob/main/chances_simulator.py

[wanton cloak]

Bro created a repo for it wow appreciate the efforts guys

[timber cipher]

You have these milestones

GUARANTEED_PULLS = sorted({60, 120, 180, 240, 300, 500, 580, 660, 740, 820, 1100, 1200, 1300, 1400, 1500})

this cost:
PULL_COST = 300

and these odds:
2% Drop Chance or 60 Pulls Pity
if random.random() < 0.02 or pity_counter >= 60:
got_hero = True

[undone slate]

Tnx, do you think It Will be like the Overlord One?

[wanton cloak]

But doesnt the pull_cost= 300 means you are dojng single pulls or is the 10 pull 3000 on dim i dont remember

[timber cipher]

it doesnt matter

because its not like 10 = 2700

its 1 = 300
or 10 = 3000

and 1 = 300 and 10 = 3000 is the same

[wanton cloak]

Yea I didn’t remember that part

[timber cipher]

helped a bit with multiprocessing and another function/calc that does a calc based on how much diamonds and scrolls you have - since people tend to rather want to know how much they can get with what they have

Instead of wanting to know how much they need to pull for x souls

so we have x souls = pull-simulation

and x pulls = soul-simulation

someone did also add it to c++ or c# but didnt get the code yet, was more optimized and faster - but couldnt test myself yet

like they kept the graphs in py, but remodeld the processing

[wanton cloak]

Yea C is generally faster then all other languages but more complicated xd

But honestly i like it as fellow cs major i assume so thanks guys

[timber cipher]

Yea no I only used that kind of scriptknowledge that I do have from powershelling and most of the other stuff like figuring out what modules py has for multiprocessing and such by chatgpt

[wanton cloak]

Ohh ahahaha everyone uses chatgpt it is normal xd

[timber cipher]

No worries have fun with it! Most folks here tend to do nice stuff in the community and figure out the meta, since the game is kind of different than classic

no relics, other heroes, divinity and such makes the ride really different but still nostalgic - so if you have the time to nerd out about stuff and do a guide or a program for something, everyone will appreciate it

like most of us figure stuff out as community

[wanton cloak]

Yea i like the community here more than classic ngl and the game itself too, i tried classic for like a week and i didnt really like it like here so yea

[timber cipher]

yea in my last org since co-pilot came out (had strong regulations against the usage of ki and we monitored it interally and fired people for missusing company data - like we had network monitoring triggers e.g.)

people went ham with it and were really happy about their co-pilot

new org im in everyone just full sends company data into chatgpt, not even doing pseudonames or adjusting values - nah even throwing full company docs at it - feed it to the kraken

i get that its more efficient but in terms of it-sec im kinda fuming with some of the different plants that i have to work at - like things in countries like china, mexico, singapore and such are really different

[timber cipher]

community keeps it well - we're sometimes madge about stuff

but we get sometimes nice freebees like aBrutus

sometimes still little content, but you also have like not really that much of a burden with it - so thats nice

[wanton cloak]

Yea exactly

[tranquil crag]

It doesn't feel too overwhelming to learn about 🙌

[plucky fulcrum]

we need servers combined ….. don’t make me have to ask again

you have been warned

[ebon sand]

Yup in DR he's a very good support, I was just speaking for pushing

[maiden hare]

Yeah, though he is pretty good in campaign for ~60/70 deficit max

After that he dies to fast

[hollow river]

Yeah

[hollow river]

Anyone done the math on what it takes to get the new pet up to ascendent

[vapid lava]

I don't think they will extend it but I think it will be the same as other companions crossovers

[vapid lava]

Sorry haha you still want it? I can wrap it up and send it over with a little readme

[vapid lava]

As in number of copies? It's 3 per each tier until ascendant and then 9 per star I think

[hollow river]

No amount of summons

[vapid lava]

I've gotten every single copy off of the pity counter but I dont remember what the pity counter number is.

[main leaf]

finally si30

[hollow river]

Congrats

[ebon sand]

Gz!

[vapid lava]

Congrats!

[main leaf]

ty!!

Took so long legit like 2mnths of saving up 😭

F2p struggle is so real late-game

[left charm]

f2p red chests are so scarce </3

[vapid lava]

F2p struggle real everywhere, that's why I don't

[left charm]

https://tenor.com/view/battlestar-galactica-sheba-laughs-crying-battlestar-gif-17168812

[royal shale]

so I heard classic is getting golden frontier , hows the game mode coming for you guys

[ebon sand]

It's unsolicited crap

[royal shale]

like rate it out of 10

[quick hinge]

76

@timber cipher

Nerd

[royal shale]

Well actually im on server 76 in classic so this is actual vintage vintage

[quick hinge]

[ebon sand]

First iteration was great then they keep making it worse

P2W, harder to make alliances too

And it's extremely time consuming for the leaders

You get some resources though

Not as much as before but better than nothing

[vapid lava]

2/50

Out of 10

It's pretty chill if you aren't a deputy/leader

[royal shale]

oof

[vapid lava]

It's also used as the primary place to get the new leaf currency to summon the ascendant pet. Lilith may be thinking of adding it to classic.

[maiden hare]

~576 Wish leafs

[hollow river]

That’s a lot and thank you

[weak blaze]

Sailus we Need u on overtime once the Heros come out 🫡

[maiden hare]

🫡

[maiden hare]

it's pretty fun, sadly being a leader/deputy is hard if you aren't in Asia or US, Siege-hours are awful for the rest of the world (like 4:00,5:00,6:00 AM)

Other than that it's a nice time sink and nice alternative to spamming AbEx only, IF you will get them rotating, we have that mode for like ~4 months now without AbEx, it's slowly time to change that lilith 🙏

[maiden hare]

ah and it's the 1st P2W game mode so be prepared for that, you won't get all rewards if you are in a active/competitive region without spending also you can have max 3 Teams as a F2P and 8 Teams if you spend

[main leaf]

real sailus?

🥸

[ebon sand]

Funnily enough with my mostly f2p alt I've beat many ppl with 5 teams and Shalltears, this mode is weird af

[maiden hare]

if you mean with looting, then you are heavily debuffed against attack so even some random x5 useless heroes can win against a Wilder or Dims comp

[maiden hare]

is there a fake one

[main leaf]

Ur fake

I'm actually sailus

Sorry pal

[cold current]

We are Sailus

[twin marsh]

Who’s that?

[maiden hare]

I don't know @swift depot @remote canopy any idea who this might be?

[mint dove]

any chance ... safiya ?

throne related , holding a scepter ...

[remote canopy]

does sound like her

[twin marsh]

If it’s 4f shouldn’t it be a wilder?

Or was raku after anasta?

[mint dove]

raku before anasta i think

[left charm]

Reading her story it sounds very fitting

[maiden hare]

yeah sounds fitting, is the iteration done? Was it Raku-Anasta-Scarlet-Oden in this iteration or did we start with anasta

if it's safiya she could be pretty good in companions, if she gets a little buff even more

[left charm]

Judging from the SS I have it was Anasta into Scarlet so that order would be right

[tranquil copper]

Hello

New player here

What is companions promo code and what does it do

[wanton cloak]

They give rewards and checkout gift code channel for how to claim them

[bright ivy]

comedy

as always main hero is the weakest in the collaboration

[weak blaze]

Thats no real is it

[bright ivy]

it's real

she is 100% better

[weak blaze]

U on the testserver?

[bright ivy]

no

[weak blaze]

Where u got those from

[bright ivy]

from afk companion public

in telegram

[crude whale]

seems okay to me actually, just didn't like that dagger holding lol maybe they did it because he is mage ig idk lol

[bright ivy]

5$ design for the main hero is funny

[crude whale]

true hae in looks better unlucky i guess

no information about skills right ?

[bright ivy]

no

[swift depot]

We had test patch today??

Scepter and blood part matches Safiya

But the thorn part sounds odd, and it should be celehypo time

[broken glade]

it sounds like safiya imo

since she is a queen

[left charm]

I assume that's metaphorical and talking about how it's challenging to get to her goal like how she loses the throne after seizing it

[timid briar]

celehypo time so it can be Vyloris no ?

[pine sable]

when is the release date for the dims? is it after current destiny summon?

[cold current]

July 30th

[pine sable]

okay ty

[cold current]

Yo, we're from the same server

Hello there

[verbal forge]

is like they got some random dude from the gas station and call it a day

[cold current]

I mean, that kinda works, because he does look like that in the beginning. But it is also kinda lazy

[bright ivy]

yeah 😂

[cold current]

I'm lowkey disappointed, I really wanted the shadow monarch version with shadow summons

But I guess that was too much to ask for

[verbal forge]

its just a guy with knife in his hand

thats proly the worst looking character in the game

[twin marsh]

Maybe his design changes with each level up?

Idk I’m coping

[vivid temple]

I did around 8 10x summons in a row and didn't get a single elite hero

How rare is this?

[twin marsh]

That’s impossible

[vivid temple]

Not for me

[cold current]

No, that's literally impossible 💀

[verbal forge]

its imposible unless is heart summons

[cold current]

I mean, there is charm in it. Just a regular dude in a tracksuit also being the strongest hunter in the world

[maiden hare]

That is a interesting idea, need to read about her story later on

But overall we should be getting a celestial now

[granite drift]

afk arena or afk companions guys wich is better?
companions have mor events now then when they lauch the game?

[maiden hare]

Or were twins in this rotation… I need to write that shit down somewhere 😂😂

[twin marsh]

Did you see the dims?

[maiden hare]

Yeah they should be pretty strong in DR here even with nerfs

But I think they will be useless in campaign and PvP

No cheat death, no shields, nothing for defense and we don’t have any supports that can help with that for now

[granite drift]

when the colab come?

[cold current]

July 30th

[twin marsh]

Yeah campaign will be rough

But I feel like they still might be viable in pvp

[granite drift]

companion are guet events like in classic?

[vital pond]

@maiden hare any update on their skills?

[pine sable]

@vital pond

[vital pond]

Thanks

[pine sable]

npnp

[weary ore]

So no shadows for sung

That sucks

[mint osprey]

yes i thought he would summon

[modern sentinel]

you can use pegga on bountiful trials xD

[cold current]

Yeah, she was there for a while now

They're refusing to add her to the game tho

[timber cipher]

sure wouldnt mind running instead of a 100mil calc a 1 bil calc sometimes just for the jokes of it

[twin marsh]

You’re here

Check the dims out

[timber cipher]

we got a leak?

[timber cipher]

o thanks

i mean obvious - but jinwoo looks great for bossing

and wit h better supports insanely good for everything else aswell

has good lifeleach but might be lacking for campaign/forkedfate/tower

seems however with his si+30 with the poison, cleanses, heals and teleport very strong for pvp

[twin marsh]

What do we usually lose from classic kits?

Is it e60?

Or furniture

[timber cipher]

e30 i believe

i think trisheas e30 is the summon thingy that we lost

[twin marsh]

Shit

His e30 looks good

[timber cipher]

aaa ea damage reduction and expose seems r eally good dang

[civic eagle]

Damn -150 energy

Btw how to get dimensional hero actually? Just summon like other hero?

[timber cipher]

but chae hae has good/big numbers and very good supportive numbers like 50% more dmg from allies and the trigger on a final boss enemy where she also deals dmg when an enemy deals dmg

jinwoo will prob be crazy bossing, but hmm both melees and welp the scaling part is kinda icking me

could be a crazy boss killing team tho with sung jinwoo, chae hae and laios

[timber cipher]

divine scrolls

[twin marsh]

They’ll probably nerf that number in companions tbf

I imagine it’ll be like 100

[timber cipher]

or 3k diamonds = 10 summons

2% odds / 60 is pity
good milestones every 60/80/100 steps

I'll probably max jinwoo to test him in arena

cha hae will be crazy with him and laios in dream/guild hunt

prob paired up with something like mehira because 3x melee

and chaehae gets haste for X spellls she casts early so even more haste will be greater

chae hae needs sung jinwoo tho

while sung jinwoo works solo and doesn't need sung jinwoo

[civic eagle]

Is that 2 hero on 1 banner or 1 hero 1 banner?

[timber cipher]

no its a dimsoul banner

[cold current]

Yeah, you can say he's... leveling solo

[timber cipher]

no hero banner you get like "souls" that work on every dimensional

so objectively for every f2p that wants to go for the collab sung jinwoo or finish others - after seeing how good they're first

then cha hae-in

[timber cipher]

kill condition of sung jinwoo makes me think of some weirdish cheese

if f.e. the statbuffs stay from 1 battle to the next in arena that would be busted

but even if that wouldn't be the case, if you get him rolling like 1-2 kills and 15s of waiting and he'll outstat everything

espacially if he also has something like albedo

[civic eagle]

So we can get other dimensional hero in dimensional event?

[timber cipher]

no you get those 2 for free on epic

if you started on a server with no other dims you get no way of obtaining them currently

[civic eagle]

😦

[timber cipher]

if you have dims you still need to work on because they're f.e. on legendary,mythic or just a1 tier

and you want to a5 them you still can

[civic eagle]

How many copies we need to ascended dimensional hero?

[timber cipher]

welp just stay put in classic they dropped such a system after 9-12 months of folks complaining about also being unable to obtain dims

they're aware of it and prob are just using fomo atm as moneymaker

base + 23 souls

so 23 pulled

welp for a0 13

welp will be afk a bit gl event drops in 6days - lets see how good he really is and then decide whether he is worth to max or not

[warm lagoon]

R.I.P HULK HOGAN

[cold current]

Rip legend

[lusty plank]

Ozzy and Hulk in the same week

Fuckk

RIP

[vapid lava]

Yeah my server is running both right now and it's not the best for the people leading it

[vapid lava]

RIP the great Hulk Hogan

[bright ivy]

so, what do you think about new colab heroes?

[timber cipher]

idk lot of value is behind their "+40s" and "e30" which is as far as im aware classic stuff

seem to be probably great for bossing

sung jinwoo might be good on his own, but cha hae-in loses 2 important things (the 70% value level ups and the crit chance) without sung jinwoo

soo hard to say, sung jinwoo might be good in pvp beside bossing - who knows might also be fine-ish standalone

but both of them are probably hard to use

cha hae-in +30 seems busted af, specially with laios +20 and sung jinwoo combined

(for bossing)

[bright ivy]

she is bad even though she can knock down for 2s?

for pvp

the main question: will it help beat trishea +30?

[timber cipher]

trishea is cc immune -> no

sung jinwoo tp might help

[timber cipher]

where would you fit her if you teambuild?

atm ainz is more often than not already one odd one out

and arthur is with gwyneth for that reason

[vapid lava]

Buuuut, for servers w/o dims they seem pretty okay

[timber cipher]

the problem is they all suffer from the same stuff laios faces - they're slow/scaling heroes

that go upfront in their face and probably die in many times

[vapid lava]

I'm kinda disappointed to be honest

[timber cipher]

yea you just build sung jinwoo for a free a5 to push with

[vapid lava]

Hopefully they work well once they are out

[timber cipher]

thing is a lot of stuff is on their e30 and +40

so they're actually great great in classic

[vapid lava]

Btw Lilith just released a survey for expedition. Please fill it out to let them know how we feel about it right now.

[timber cipher]

like e30 has so much dmg reduction on sung jinwoo

and +40 would give +50% atk to everything poisoned but thats classic stuff

[vapid lava]

Yes until we see what is changed for companions I will remain somewhat neutral

[timber cipher]

we get up to +30, both furnitures and e60

yea maybe they'll tweak the kit and numbers to fit in and give actually a bit more buffs for us because they're taken stuff away- will see about that

we didnt test them yet and maybe the teleport is the dealbreaker and op

like if it dodges plenty skills like fools trishea to ult in the wrong way without being hit and stuff like that

then its pretty dope

[vapid lava]

Hopefully, but dont they normally nerf them down a little for companions?

[timber cipher]

depends they "adjust" sometimes some of our heroes have better values, sometimes a bit worse values - feels a bit random

but they have the number/stats how they perform so they can decide the meta ig

[vapid lava]

I am intrigued by Jin-woo's teleport as well. We shall only truly see the full extent of it's use once we can test

Tasi 2.0 over here

Normally I'm a big fan of cc heroes

[twin marsh]

Teleport?

[timber cipher]

if we can get a comp to work where he gets to snowball for kills and survives 15s - he'll be good

but kinda tough - for sure great bossing heroes tho and if we might see changes for drealm realm going regional - good prep

[timber cipher]

3rd spell i believe

[twin marsh]

Oh I see

[timber cipher]

that one

[vapid lava]

Yeah check Shadow hunt

[twin marsh]

Maybe he has some sustain in his kit then

[timber cipher]

his sustain is leveling up, gaining his ult instantly aswell as full health

and he has lifesteal - so kinda-ish

but as said requires killing, 15s timer, killing, 30s timer

[vapid lava]

The timer feels a little long

Even 10s would be much better

[timber cipher]

yea max timer is 90s

but 10s would make dream/guild hunt be insane

ig 10s with lower stats

[vapid lava]

We can say 12.5s

Or lower stats yes

[timber cipher]

but i think the timer is that way because its kinda meant as a

kill -> timer proc -> kill -> timer proc

thats prob the idea of it

[twin marsh]

The 8% max HP healing when cleansing debuffs might be nice as well

[mint osprey]

where it is

[timber cipher]

and after 3-4 increases he has enough stats to snowball through everything

idk after 2 increases + good teleports he might snowball

[timber cipher]

inbox ingame

[vapid lava]

It'll be in your mail box

[twin marsh]

The problem will be making him last that long

[vapid lava]

Exactly

[timber cipher]

yep

we need Merlin

[vapid lava]

Then again I would rather have to build a comp around him to make him op rather than have him be must have for anything and everything

[twin marsh]

Nah I want a broken hero

1v5 everything

[timber cipher]

like albedo merlin, sung jinwoo, laios/cha hae-in and marcielle would slap

[vapid lava]

Cha relying on Jinwoo is kinda sad, but not surprising

[vapid lava]

[timber cipher]

merlin a dim healer that gave for the first Xs (idk how long it was like 10 or 15s ish) a 25% dmg reduction

and other than that like very very broken healing

[vapid lava]

You want Ivan Randle situation

[mint osprey]

i’ll ask them to give us old collab/rerun collab on newer server no shalltear

[vapid lava]

Maybe next collab we'll get a crazy healer

[twin marsh]

She deadass a leech 😭

Doesn’t buff him at all

Only gets buffed

[vapid lava]

Accurate

[timber cipher]

kinda would love some utility dim beside albedo (and laios because laios flops to fast the way he is, like ranged utility)

[mint osprey]

iss there any chance they rerun collab ? like albedo laios… new dont have it it feels rough

[vapid lava]

There is a possibility

[timber cipher]

might just do a comp like

albedo cha, hae-in, ainz, rowan and sung jinwoo

[mint osprey]

they did it once ?

[twin marsh]

Thinking about comps for arena
Sung jinwoo, Chae, Albedo who else?

Talene maybe?

[timber cipher]

like the shalltear release rerun was like 5-6 years after the original collab

-> i think they'd rather do a system like garrison in classic, where you somehow can unlock dims

or like they did some shops where you could buy dims for 120$ straight on classic

but idk im not a lilith employee - they want to assert the fomo with dims

[vapid lava]

Ainz + Cha + Jinwoo seems crazy for dmg

[timber cipher]

kinda, but i lowkey need talene/shalltear for new celestwing pet

[twin marsh]

Stop flexing

[timber cipher]

talene shalltear do like 80-100% of enemy teams solo

[mint osprey]

Idk i just want shalltear not being able to use some heroes that y’all talking about is kinda sad

[timber cipher]

[vapid lava]

Trust me it's better to be in the servers w/o Shall.

Arena nightmares

Regional arena where only half the servers have Shall......

[mint osprey]

i mean i missed laios marcille and entire overlord collab

[timber cipher]

Yea that sucks for sure 100%

and i think its even worse that you do have to compete against people with Shalltear in f.e. alliance and now f.e. in sigils

that is a bit stinky

but the part about shalltear arena is yea, you mainly have 2 teams - shall team and trishea team

[mint osprey]

my server is too recent we 25d old

[ember ridge]

Anyone realize S84-95 never have abex season 3?

[timber cipher]

and i mean aBrutus team and mira team are just there to die or do little dmg and poke some holes

and welp gwyneth team just does nothing atm

[mint osprey]

yes i play against some shalltear in sigils lol

[timber cipher]

Yes no server after us aswell.

[mint osprey]

So if we compete against shalltear why not let us have it

[ember ridge]

Maybe they think it's done for abex

[vapid lava]

It's okay Laios is just kinda bad. Ainz is niche plus needs to be maxed and needs albedo. Shall is Shall. Marcille is kinda unfortunate to miss

[twin marsh]

Tbf aBrutus team is nice to take out wilder team

[ember ridge]

It's time for new shitty mode called golden frontier or p2w or 3 teams only

[mint osprey]

i mostly care about collection

[timber cipher]

welp fomo for dims probably - making 'em sell better and sooner or later after enough critisism a system will appear to unlock them for much more then they were on release

[mint osprey]

not having a hero is

[vapid lava]

I agree it's the fomo they want

They want you to spend a ton on the new ones

[mint osprey]

fomo ?

[vapid lava]

Fear of missing out

[mint osprey]

oh

[timber cipher]

depends if you use the tasi based wilders instead of mishka - somehow they always win against maulers

[twin marsh]

I might fall for it this time 💔

[vapid lava]

Same 🥀

[timber cipher]

Yea "limited time only, get it now now now, 3000% value, you'd lose money if you don't spent"

[twin marsh]

Will try to get both of them to A5, and then Albedo to at least M

I’m cooked

[timber cipher]

would say wait a bit before doing cha

prob a jinwoo a5 > albedo a3 angle

[twin marsh]

I’m going all in day 1

You can’t stop me

[vapid lava]

Oh? Lemme switch to Tasi then rq

[twin marsh]

Jk I’ll wait for sure

[timber cipher]

when solo leveling gotcha, then it gotcha - cant stop ya - you better pull good and hit 1100-1200 for 46 souls

[vapid lava]

Doomed

[ember ridge]

Ahh, you fell for it hard right😭

[vapid lava]

Just wait I'll a5 Cha day 1

[timber cipher]

yea most of us in top arena stopped using mishka and starting using tasi, her tp is quite nice, she reduces enemy atk, ccs them, distrects them and rounds out the comp better

[timber cipher]

no im the guy doing math cheat sheets about values

[ember ridge]

Nice, btw do you know where is Grace?

[timber cipher]

grace went after her vacation

[vapid lava]

The later I get into the game the more use I feel Tasi gets

She really does well once built out

[timber cipher]

prob burned out is what everyone is telling, because she managed like 4-5 guilds, like 3-4 whale accs and a few other fun accs

and managed multiple ongoing events all the time

was supposed to take 3 week vacation and give over some accs to babysit -> never gave anyone accs as far as im aware and just disappeared

[mint osprey]

Worth A5 one of them ? and not ascend the 2nd one

[hollow river]

She had 11 guilds

[ember ridge]

I never though that she will leave before i quit...

[timber cipher]

damn

[timber cipher]

The brightest flame burns quickest.

[ember ridge]

She is the the star guided everyone in my server since the beginning. So active, so much energy, talk so much.

[timber cipher]

Yea she guided plenty of the community

Melchior also left shortly after her

[lusty plank]

@timber cipher is one of them gonna be more important to build than the other? As usual I can only ascend one to 5 stars

I’m losing so much motivation anyways, I feel like my account is softlocked without a 5 star Ainz

He’s used in way too many comps

[timber cipher]

i mean cha hae-in +30 is more valueable as far as i can tell

[ember ridge]

I can see your fire is pretty huge all the time...

[timber cipher]

but cha hae-in kinda needs sung jinwoo in most cases from theoriecrafting alone (without real tests)

[lusty plank]

Do u think I should get Albedo to 30 first tho?

[timber cipher]

probably, albedo is the most flexible dim - needs no attachment to anyone

would wait for the real release and real number tho

[hollow river]

What info we have about the new dims

[timber cipher]

when we have real numbers and real things to test on we can see how much the disspelling of cc on sung jinwoo does

and other stuff

[hollow river]

Ty

[timber cipher]

classic leaks/info that do not 1-to-1 apply to us

we're usally missing +40 and e30

[vapid lava]

It's for classic but still

Once they release and we give iperx y0m and sailus some time to test we'll see

[timber cipher]

Hmm kinda but I do turn it down and get into my comfort zone when its too much afk for sure

I'm kinda having too much social contacts through birthdays and such atm ++ work so some kind of escape/vent is always nice.

[hollow river]

Okay

[hollow river]

Happy late birthday or early birthday

[timber cipher]

Working Current Codes (Companions)

AFK8888
AFK999
Zdf888
Zdf666
Sp888
Sp666
pc6wy5miwb

oops that was for questions lmao

[timber cipher]

O nono, sorry formulated it wrong mainly bc friends/family - plenty of people do have it in the summer lmao

I'll have mine soon aswell but will have prob 1 small one with the family and like one saturday or sunday with friends

[hollow river]

Whoops on my part

I’ll wish you a happy early birthday though

[wanton cloak]

What the verdict on the new dim characters?

[twin marsh]

Must pull

Best heroes in the game

Nah jk, we won’t really know until Tuesday

But especially for newer servers, there’s no reason not to pull for them

[timber cipher]

+30 on cha hae-in seems broken, 2s stun is nice - but her kit is without sung jinwoo mid
(no real testing done, but if she flops as fast as laios does sometimes, then it be only nieche prob for guild hunt/dream and maybe pvp)

sung jinwoo has a nice kit, but really good parts his e30 / +40 will be missing in companions so he might be lacking - depending whether you can stack like kill -> 15s -> kill 30s and snowball with that

if his teleport is good and he can kinda "kill steal" with burst heroes because it gets counted for him or if we get him to survive, he'll be nice to have

otherwise he could be also a guild hunt/dream realm hero/pvp hero

has def. a kit that can work in pvp

+++ the most intresting part for me would be actually to figure out if only his poison trigger the mana burn of his +30 or if other poisons like vurk or thesku can trigger it aswell

because it only talks about "exposed while poisoned" not specifically "exposed while poisoned by sung jinwoo"

we do not have many "poisons" but thesku could actually be an option

[maiden hare]

does thesku even has poison?

I though vurk was the only one

[timber cipher]

think the purple spit from thesku, no?

[wanton cloak]

It seems that they still need testing to know whether they are worth it or not right?

[maiden hare]

Its

[wanton cloak]

Btw i spotted you f2p acc in the arena today :))

[timber cipher]

for sure, but you should still pull dim souls because its the best value event

[wanton cloak]

Yea worse case if they are not worth it maybe i can a5 laios or something xd

[timber cipher]

welp who knows what lilith spaghetticode will do with that, time to test vurk and thesku for cheese

[maiden hare]

bruh vurk 5* buff could go hard with sung

that's like always poisoned with some haste on vurk

mania is his ult

[timber cipher]

yea was already trying to brainstorm around weird ideas

no idea how 2-3 squishy units would fit well, but we'll manage somehow with a brutus and hendrik or brutus and arthur

[twin marsh]

Wait, this dude?

[maiden hare]

I'm not thinking of campaign comps like some peasant, I'm brainstorming new DR comps

[maiden hare]

yea

[twin marsh]

You guys are tripping dude 😭

Whole team would get one shot

[timber cipher]

exposed is unfortunately only 9s after tp tho

[timber cipher]

yea you can make a dr comp with laios, cha hae-in, sung jinwoo, mehira and vurk

just slot vurk in front so he gets early haste aswell and it'll be fun

tirgger cha hae-in first early haste buffs well, round it up with an owl and see how it goes

[maiden hare]

nah laois is needed for trishea or marcille, don't think he will do more there

but some sneaky brutus with -50% Physical res with full Phy. Attack team could go hard too

[timber cipher]

my theoriecrafting is getting exposed

yea

i want to use brutus basically to get somehow snowball potential for the campaign sung jinwoo

[maiden hare]

I think he will get oneshoted with deficit ~60 and above

[timber cipher]

but mabye it'll flop

probably

[maiden hare]

no chance he won't die in 1 sec after tp

[verbal forge]

yo is that dark realm shet a mode for expedition ?

or is a separate game mode

[timber cipher]

also thought about 5 pull + brutus

but then i was like nah no way that sung jinwoo is getting anykill in that when its not even working well with gwyneth

[twin marsh]

Just realized cha is kinda like a reverse lucretia

[maiden hare]

I think it's for expedition but we still don't have it on test server in expedition so it could be a thing for next season

[timber cipher]

cha +30 can be insane and gamebreaking for us in companions

[twin marsh]

Oh nvm

Not for us

[verbal forge]

bring me temporal rift here cowards i liked that mode a lot on clasic

[maiden hare]

on paper, cha is much better than that dude, for us in companion

[timber cipher]

a man of culture

[twin marsh]

Really?

[timber cipher]

tbf half of her abilities requiring sung jinwoo is kinda bothering tho or well him also giving her the level up is a good bait

aswell as the potential crits

[verbal forge]

from their skils neither are wow

[timber cipher]

this

[verbal forge]

maybe in dream realm but who cares for that

[twin marsh]

I can only see her being better than him at bossing, and that isn’t that big of a deal in companions

[timber cipher]

i only really like +30 cha

but think sung jinwoo fits current pvp well

[verbal forge]

top 30 is easy af to get

[maiden hare]

for now
I feel regional DR next patch

[verbal forge]

even in pvp they dont seem to good

[twin marsh]

I’d kill myself

[verbal forge]

i would actualy pull for dimensional souls for ainz or albedo

if people didnt managed to up them

[maiden hare]

ainz is like almost useless now don't upgrade him anymore

[verbal forge]

or even for the last girl from last promo

[twin marsh]

They’re not gonna be worse than ainz dude

[timber cipher]

I'd rather make a team arround sung jinwoo, brutus, eironn and skriath than my freaking gwyneth arthur team 100%

[verbal forge]

in pvp tbh for a dimensional team hes not useles

tbh

[timber cipher]

i dont even mean aBrutus

[maiden hare]

he is, the only arena where he wasnt bad was Ice Debuff but with Marcille + Abrutus/Dims meta he isn't used anymore

[twin marsh]

Damn I’m kinda bummed rn, didn’t realize her +30% ATK for each alive ally was her +40

[timber cipher]

but yea maybe i can swap my dims a bit arround and figure out a good stall comp with shalltear and celestwing ++ match the other dims

[verbal forge]

oh yeah marcile also worth to a5 if you didnt manage

[timber cipher]

i kinda like that energy gain and push together with skriath, but i also hate not running talene in it

might be minus crassio plus talene

[verbal forge]

i dont use shaltear dor invade depends on map kren can shit on many team

even the healer suport dude

alao u should make crasios +30

[timber cipher]

sailus doesnt have infinite si

not the biggest whale

just a dolphin in disguise

[verbal forge]

crasio if we had merlin here i legit think he would be the best current pvp hero

[timber cipher]

hmm with the dmg reduction would be nice, but no shot

[verbal forge]

or somethign that can give him some imunity dr at start

[timber cipher]

too many cheat deaths

[maiden hare]

I don't push campaign so I don't do SI 30 for campaign

[verbal forge]

hes good everywhre not just campaign

specialy mauler tower

in mauler tower he is that guy

[maiden hare]

yeah tower/campaign/forked is the same thing for me

[verbal forge]

in forked fate he is chef kiss

[timber cipher]

you're overselling him, i like him aswell, but more often than not skirath seems to be more stable

[maiden hare]

his SI 30 isn't bad don't get me wrong, it's just absolutely not worth it if you aren't a whale

[verbal forge]

chicken is just a displace bug

always has been

[timber cipher]

chiken deals as much dmg as marcielle, if not more most often than not

true dmg that critical strikes s broken

[verbal forge]

even still making him more then +20 is meh

i had him +30 on clasic cuz meh

[timber cipher]

non believer

[ebon sand]

Chicken at Si20 is just good for cc though, like Crassio dmg at Si20 is meh outside of bossing

[verbal forge]

crasio only problem curently is cuz he sometimes dies before doing enough

[ebon sand]

Yeah but with ABrutus it's gotten better

[verbal forge]

him+awutus decimate dimensional teams

[timber cipher]

like idk what to tell ya

[verbal forge]

i just deleted a guy with trancended dimns with a basic inavde team

[timber cipher]

that was a copy paste didnt even notice only mythic pet

[ebon sand]

I beat a tower floor today 🙂 no luck in campaign though

[timber cipher]

thats nice - i really struggle with 414 gb

only you two up there

[ebon sand]

It's the king tower I beat a floor at, GB 416 doesn't seem to work for me

[timber cipher]

i dont match these gbs

my a3 thoran is lacking and im not summoning until next week

[ebon sand]

So far this Korean dude just use a formation I've used, slaps the new pet and tries to up me, it worked at wilders and GB towers

[twin marsh]

Mira being the goat as usual

[ebon sand]

And yeah his T3 chars make a big difference

Gimme his box I go to ch46 and floor 700 :0

Whelp, I guess I'll go into dims without emblems now

[maiden hare]

that hero is MID at best to be honest , well she will be good for you in campaign

still don't si30 her it's pretty useless, she doesn't deal dmg, it's nice in pvp but you won't use her there that much anyway

[timber cipher]

still +1 cheat death

and tbh i like her passive

[maiden hare]

I mean this

that's like nothing

[ebon sand]

I guess her ascensions are pretty much mandatory, right?

[timber cipher]

gz!

will have to get atleast 230 more sgs when if I'd do flora for a0 aTalene

[timber cipher]

a2 are qsome nice stat boosts, but i wouldnt go further I'm prepped for atleast a1 because a2 twins would also feel a bit wasted

a1 twins was a nice surprise, they're usable in some cases in tower/campaign

[timber cipher]

hmm in what mode?

on 105+ level diff yea

not wrong, but also not right

more base stats = more % reduce

didnt try her yet aside from that one time where kasu cried about campaign being impossible

and i used s75 senfs aTalene once to instabeat a multi-stage easily in 5min

[maiden hare]

yeah you could go for pure stats for tanking/healing more in campaign but that feels like a waste even if you whale (for me at least)

[timber cipher]

its more like unlocking wokes for passive kits that are useful imo

[ebon sand]

I must be a fool cuz by just reading, her Si30 sounded good to me

[timber cipher]

the passive ability is ahuge on a stall

[ebon sand]

I've left her at 20 for now

[timber cipher]

yea on over 100 level diff i think 40% is not little

[maiden hare]

I don't know how much she will deal with 100lv deficit but I guess it won't be anything crazy

and 40% out of that small sum is nothing

[ebon sand]

Do you have her divines on a ss?

[timber cipher]

its they deal less damage sailus, not they take 40% damage huh

[timber cipher]

she has no divines unlocked yet

[ebon sand]

Right

[maiden hare]

bruh I can't read

[ebon sand]

Yeah lol

[timber cipher]

I was so confused

[ebon sand]

Same

[timber cipher]

like i was like sure 40% yea some heroes still get oneshot you're right, but damn 40% is huge for tanking 100 lvl diff

[maiden hare]

yeah it's not that bad, thought it was dealing 40% dmg which would be just useless

[timber cipher]

no its a utility all-star kit

already talked about it with y0m

kinda master of none, but does everything well

can be a tank with cehat death sometimes

can be a utilty crit dps sometimes

can be a really good healer sometimes

[maiden hare]

40% less dmg could be huge in campaign with high deficit but I don't know how often she would "burn the ground" and don't sit in her respawn egg with that deficit

[timber cipher]

its like her signature skill, idk how often she casts it but usally affects frontliners more t han backliners

could be tried with 5pull shalltear to see whether its a cheese

[maiden hare]

yeah that's why I said, idk if she will ever last on the frontlines that long to do it, but that's probably also some team comps thing that can be dealt with

[timber cipher]

aTalene + something that fights long and retriggers her a lot + celestwing sounds like a cheese imo

[ebon sand]

For now she just insta rips and take forever to resurrect

[maiden hare]

that's what I mean

[timber cipher]

idk enemies with antiheal?

o if she rips she rips for longer than talene

[timber cipher]

talene only takes 5s because of revive at 50%

[maiden hare]

she isn't that "tanky" to begin with, like you mentioned above, she is a good for nothing everywhere and has some niche uses from time to time

[ebon sand]

I think with 5* gear and Si30 and a couple stones she could be good

[timber cipher]

Yea I think you should if you do play around that - because her teammates will trigger that even if she dies lmao

[maiden hare]

well she isn't bad but can't be even compared to Asolise and Abrutus

[maiden hare]

yeah that should work but with that high investment even Hendrik would tank a good amount

[ebon sand]

Yeah but Hendrick works with low investment and getting ATalene was an investment in itself

I would've gone for Lucretia if I didn't aim for a good ATalene at some point

[timber cipher]

gamblers logic - but i get ya, if i get aTalene i will for sure make the most out of her passive

[maiden hare]

yeah Atalene is a bit of a whale scam to be honest

[timber cipher]

i mean def bait to finish celestials now

but as herself after getting the 5 celes "ontop" - not that bad

but having to finish a flora, zaphrael, orthros or even wukong as the 4th non useful celestial is really the "baity" part imo

all other celestials find their uses everywhere

i mean flora is not half bad for forked fate

[maiden hare]

she is a nice on the way addon but she shouldn't be your main objective when pulling for celestials

[timber cipher]

yea im stalling for the next celestial currently

and if they do a scam celestial instead of something good imma be sad and see for myself what to do with my sgs

[ebon sand]

The good news is that my twins are ascended now

[timber cipher]

but personally im hyped for aTalene and i like a1 twins

my athalia kinda feels weird atm since the buffs somehow audrae is way overperforming and on higher diffs athalia kinda flops

tho athalia is nuts in pvp

[vapid lava]

Congrats congrats!

[timber cipher]

also aTalene triggers Icecrown really well with allies triggering her dmg, which would then trigger freeze even if she's dead

so you can also build a good icecrown

[maiden hare]

you will find some good uses for her don't worry

[ebon sand]

Thanks!

[timber cipher]

but yea if we would calc it through with really good offers only a 2000$ pricetag celestial is quite the pricetag

tho you have 6 celestials at that point ascended

[ebon sand]

Twins Si20 looks good, I might go for it

[timber cipher]

2000$ (if 5x a0) - not some a5s

[timber cipher]

they're somehow weirdly tanky

i made a video of twins tanking high diff tidus

i was laughing my ass off

like i couldnt believe myself

[ebon sand]

Yeah cuz there're some annoying bosses where they die 3 times over 5 attempts

If not 4,5 times

[timber cipher]

really good for alliance zero limit

also for abex if it ever comes again

[ebon sand]

Yeah, there also was some contest back where Selen was still playing without ascended twins it was pointless to use them

[vapid lava]

@timber cipher @maiden hare

The github repo I owe Iperx

https://github.com/iTynacity/GachaSim

[timber cipher]

@maiden hare we might need to talk about that value/weight of your abex ratings ... in terms of abex releases

[ebon sand]

Speaking about Selen, I remember she maxed her ATalene shortly before quitting I think it was to beat a ch44 stage Zeph used her at but I can't check anymore

[vapid lava]

Made a whole fancy ass readme for shits and giggles even though I am assuming @timber cipher you don't need anything of the sort

[timber cipher]

ty! You didn't need to do a repo tho you could've done a quick and dirty send with the c-compiler
will try it out

[timber cipher]

will help the community if they're not that nerdy, is for sure helping if im stuck with some weird stuff like the visulize command

[vapid lava]

It uses your pick of a C++ compiler, CMake, Python, and the python libaries pandas, matplotlib, and scipy

[vapid lava]

If there is some stuff that doesn't work as intended or is unclear lmk

[ebon sand]

Pff I'm one copy short of T2 Daimon, so I use the 2 elite GB cards I had and here's what I get

Typical af

I also got a nice wilder fodder right after that

Thanks game

[vapid lava]

Gotta love the rng

[maiden hare]

nuh-uh that's is like against every norm in c++ what you did here

but I know you only wanted to import it from python

[vapid lava]

Now imagine if we had all the heroes classic does. We'd never pull anything we want

[maiden hare]

those elite stones are pure scam

[maiden hare]

Believe in AbEx s4 🙏

[vapid lava]

Quick and dirty was the goal

[timber cipher]

had to add a systemvariable and install https://winlibs.com/

but other than that everything went smooth

[maiden hare]

C Lion is very nice for c but idk if you can use it without any license

[timber cipher]

am doing a 100mil sim not sure if i'll let it passthrough, since I'll head to sleep soon

[vapid lava]

Yeah I like the MinGW terminal in https://www.msys2.org/

Hmm should I guide people on adding a system variable?

[timber cipher]

i mean not necessary - but i was like huh why is my vsc not finding it

thought it'd auto-install itself in there

[vapid lava]

Yeah you would think

[timber cipher]

it would help for the normal user that knows way less for sure, was one google for me - but o welp

like some folks will know how to help themself and some will give up

[vapid lava]

Were you in vsc terminal or?

[timber cipher]

Yee terminal

[vapid lava]

The MSYS2 MinGW terminal steps work without adding anything else

I worked on it in vsc but when I wrote the readme I was doing it from the angle of no vsc

Well if it gains any popularity here I will make changes. I think only the three of us will touch this

[timber cipher]

guess mb for using winlibs instead of msys2

thats what i get for not following the guide

[vapid lava]

You figured it out, you evolved past the guide

[timber cipher]

but the live % is bugged now in c++

[vapid lava]

Oh yeah lmao I ignored that completely

It'll bounce around 1-5% a little and then you'll get your results randomly

[timber cipher]

no worries was just wondering with the 100mil then i stopped it and am testing 10mil now because i want to sleep

yea i noticed after testing 10mil that i suddenly was able to gain 1 %

[vapid lava]

Anything under 10m it's not even really noticable

Bc it's fast

The runtime will still pop out dont worry

[timber cipher]

welp its working

I could run some gpts over it and adjust it, but unlike with python its not as easy for me to understand whether the logic of the gpt fails or not

[vapid lava]

I can make both of you contributors and yall can edit/change whatever

SaiLus would be able to clean it up

[timber cipher]

im such a fraud like before i took time writing ps-scripts - mainly for automation and now im just running AI an checking whether its actually doing what i want and telling it 2-3 more times that its not doing X and Y and I want it to be like Z

it feels like being on a construction site where one guy is yelling at the others and like 5 people are standing around and just watching

342.82

under 6min is nice

[vapid lava]

Don't worry I am a complete C fraud as well

[timber cipher]

also 63,1 again

[maiden hare]

And just a small thing for the future. If you copy any code from someone using an MIT or other licenses you need to follow it and give them appropriate attributions (I believe it can be even some commented out name in code for MIT).

Now I’m not using any kind of license in my code that last MIT-License thing is just copy pasted from ChatGPT because I forgot to delete it when he wrote the readme.md

Just saying it before you run in any kind of undesired problems in the future

[timber cipher]

guess i need to try 9.99mil sims just to be sure

[maiden hare]

Nah I’m not doing c++ in my free time

[vapid lava]

I was going to grab yours but honestly just got lazy at the end and forgot once I wrote the readme. Should have just connected it during the repo setup my bad.

I also thought it was odd to see the MIT license on THAT specific script

[timber cipher]

doesn't apply aslong as i do not publish iirc

but yea i cant claim that this is my code

[maiden hare]

Yeah as long as you copy it for private use it’s whatever but as soon as it gets publicized anywhere you need to look out for that shit

Even if you don’t commercialize it

[vapid lava]

Yeah mine is shared to public

So SaiLus is right

I want to say

[timber cipher]

Yea agreed copyright is scary shiz that you do not want to get caught in

[vapid lava]

Up to you haha

[maiden hare]

Yeah don’t worry about it just saying because I had some friends getting problems with that shit in the past 😂

[vapid lava]

Yeah scary scary... Everything I do is already owned by my employer so I don't normally think alot about the copyrights

[timber cipher]

agreed, but i spoke to you about it and we dmd about it so i wasnt looking out for it

entrapment

[timber cipher]

nah im yapping too much i will sleep for now gn8 - almost said something unrelated that doesn't need to be out there regarding work

welp sleep well y'all

[maiden hare]

[vapid lava]

Haha good catch then! Have a goodnight

[maiden hare]

I’ll also get to sleep now, gn

[vapid lava]

[ebon sand]

I guess I missed everyone going to sleep 🥱

[pine sable]

gz!

[ebon sand]

Thanks!!!

She's not allowing me to beat that cursed stage just yet but she's decent already, ATalene I mean

Fucking eironn on the enemy side prevents me from using 3 DPS in the back :/

[brave cliff]

Hola, alguien habla español acá?

[visual nova]

Hola sí

[swift depot]

H o l a

[brave cliff]

Les hablo por privado😉

[mint osprey]

can you delete an account on a specific server ? like delete my lets say 200 but keep other ones

[swift depot]

Maybe, but what's the point ?

[mint osprey]

Way to much account when i switch i always log on wrong one

Same goes for doing code redeem i always use wrong serverkkkkkkk

[left charm]

I think you just need to slow down when selecting accounts, like the servers are always listed right there, otherwise I'd get in contact with support and see if they can help

[mint osprey]

yes

[fickle sierra]

Hi everyone! Trying to be a bit more active on discord since I spend so much time on this game 😂 Hope everyone is having a good morning/evening/night!

[mint osprey]

Hey i love your videos !

[fickle sierra]

Thank you!

[hollow river]

Hello and I am

[vapid lava]

Hey Bacon, you ready for the collab?

[fickle sierra]

I'm super excited, wish it was sooner! Been saving my Destiny scrolls for awhile...

[hollow river]

Oooo how many scrolls do you have I’m curious

[vapid lava]

What are you savings at? Diamonds and scroll wise. We have a program to give you the probabilities on how many souls you can pull..

https://github.com/iTynacity/GachaSim

[echo finch]

im gonna use this tonight

[vapid lava]

I can run it for you rn if you want

[echo finch]

i mean

i already knew im cooked for a second time

[fickle sierra]

I'm at 317 scrolls and 40k diamonds. My guess is....11 pulls

[echo finch]

i only have 97 scrolls and 16k dias

for what it's worth, i managed to get the dungeon meshi characters to M+ (~18 souls)... which is still not very serviceable lmfao

[vapid lava]

Results for Souls obtained in 450 pulls:
Avg Souls: 17.51
Min Souls: 12
Max Souls: 31

[hollow river]

I’m 100k dias and 300 scrolls

[fickle sierra]

ohhhh better than expected! With my luck ill hit 12 though...😂

[hollow river]

My other account has 400 scrolls and 30k diamonds

[hollow river]

I feel that

[echo finch]

we still cooked like omelette though

[vapid lava]

Results for Souls obtained in 150 pulls:
Avg Souls: 5.97
Min Souls: 4
Max Souls: 16

[vapid lava]

Well let's hope you can hit the average at least

[echo finch]

you're telling me i was extremely lucky during dungeon meshi

[vapid lava]

Results for Souls obtained in 633 pulls:
Avg Souls: 24.72
Min Souls: 17
Max Souls: 40

[hollow river]

I get one maxed atleast