companions-chat

[timber cipher]

mira has higher scores than aBrutus

bama is - which is completly wrong

[warm lagoon]

I didn't say that

I'm just saying he's a build

He's not a pass

[timber cipher]

I mean you said you had problems with Mira trials

You said Oden could probably solo all of the trials.

[twin marsh]

With dims right around the corner? He’s 100000% a pass

[warm lagoon]

That doesn't mean I'm saying not to build her

[timber cipher]

I didn't say that either but you were heavily suggesting that Oden is more powerful than Mira by the things you wrote.

[warm lagoon]

No he's not a pass because he is better than some other GB out there and eventually you're going to need three four and five teams in Tower

[timber cipher]

Or atleast I read it that way.

[warm lagoon]

No I said he was OP I never said she wasn't I just said I had problems with her arena trial

[timber cipher]

Mira Daimon are currently carrying tower - but if tower is your reason he is good for tower.

but for everything else - you have almost no usecase atm

[warm lagoon]

Having problem with a hero's hero trials has nothing to do with the hero sometimes it's the heroes that you get to use with her team

I'm just saying he is a better choice than some of the GB out there on companions

[timber cipher]

here is a mira 3v5 in campaign

im pretty certain mira trails and some of the others before that were not at a5 +30

i could be wrong on that but i remember that trials were not at maxed state at some point

[warm lagoon]

As long as I've been playing in the game on companions and classic the trials have always been maxed out heroes

[timber cipher]

im not even sure if we had a trial for mira because she just released inbetween

i dont find any screenshot regarding mira trials in companions

[warm lagoon]

She had a banner didn't she

[timber cipher]

yea but it came inbetween unannounced

we were confused because it wasnt even graveborn rotation

and it was right after dims collab or smth like that

[warm lagoon]

I remember her having one because I was saving the tickets you get for the next set of dimensionals

[timber cipher]

you're right found that

or idk if thats classic wait

[warm lagoon]

Didn't she come out after the overlord collab

[timber cipher]

thats classic

[timber cipher]

right after or at the end of it

but i think we got no mira trial in companions

like mira was a confuse shock for us

and we were all like damn that kit is newgen for companions and build/rushed her

you might've had problems with classic mira?

[warm lagoon]

Probably so

That's one of the problems playing with 14 accounts

Sometimes they just all merge together

[timber cipher]

oof yea i couldnt do that

[warm lagoon]

That thing that you shared the other day about when it said twin swords in flame I wonder if that was a typo and was it supposed to be daggers

[timber cipher]

Yea some people said it was a mistake

like everyone is on the solo leveling train atm

[warm lagoon]

Has to be but he has twin daggers that kind of look like they're on fire

[timber cipher]

idk his equipment to well but could be that he has some kind of enchantments on them

because he had this demon lightning sword, he had like the weird debuff daggers and plenty other stuff

[warm lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/sung-jin-woo-solo-leveling-manhwa-daggers-supernatural-gif-25733126

@timber cipher you see anything about when he fought Thomas from America he got those twin daggers for not killing Thomas alliance

I've got one thing to say and people are going to probably get mad at me but he's not going to be as good on AFK arena as he is in the maga or anime

[timber cipher]

nah for sure they cant make him that infite broken

[twin marsh]

I mean, that’s a given

[timber cipher]

like you're right

[warm lagoon]

If that's truly going to be the new collab

[twin marsh]

He’d have to 1v5 and more to be close to his actual power

[warm lagoon]

I hope he is like 60% as good

[timber cipher]

like if he summons his maxed S+ tier general type of shit soldiers its already over

[warm lagoon]

Just imagine he makes The monkey King good because he takes over The monkey King's clones

[timber cipher]

because his summons already have like broken ass abilities

[warm lagoon]

Just imagine that he helps every hero that makes minions

[vital pond]

What could be his class in the game? Mage or ranger?

[warm lagoon]

If it is him he's definitely going to be a mage

[timber cipher]

atm we have like a mage meta in companions

[warm lagoon]

Hell they might actually make him a ranger assassin

His wife will most likely be a warrior

[vital pond]

Very curious about his skills

[timber cipher]

I'd just wait and see whether they are mage/ranger or warrior/ranger type

[true crest]

Hello guys ! Long time no see ! Im playing an MMO RPG called MU immortal ! Its an old school game that came out to mobile and pc with emulator ! I made a guild yesterday and i want good players to join me ! The game is f2p and p2w ! Cross server pvp , castle siege , arena , crafting , boss and raid farming and ofc afk farming ! If anyone is interested i will be glad to welcome you !

[warm lagoon]

He could be OP if they made him right what one of his abilities should be is that he brings his allies back to life as his minions but that would break the game

Could you imagine Walker dying on the battlefield and then comes back to life as one of Jin-woo Sung minions but actually be worth a damn

[twin marsh]

Maybe they do him like Baden, ranger/assassin with summons

[timber cipher]

for sure but I'll just sit it out and see what the studio cooks combined with lilith balancing

overlord dims were also gamebreakingly broken on every release so far

so if the studio says yea you can collab but char has to be broken - then we'll get that

like i believe kasu showed another games screen where chae-hae the girl/his wife was ssr tier and ontop of every other hero in that game

[warm lagoon]

The thing is it could still be a R4F hero and this would be the second time a new hero came to classic and companions at the same time and they just be some kind of weird Duo

[timber cipher]

• we have albedo to buff like its already a balance nightmare

[warm lagoon]

Was the game either solo leveler or whatever the name of the anime is or seven deadly sins

Is the name of the anime solo leveler or solo leveling

[timber cipher]

idk that game but that was the pic

[warm lagoon]

Yeah that's the name of the game it's self-titled

[timber cipher]

oh

yea i dont play much else mobile stuff

[warm lagoon]

Whatever the name of the anime is the name of that game they also had a collab with seven deadly sins

[twin marsh]

Don’t remind me of that, still need to get her

[timber cipher]

i dont like to bother with too much to do

[timber cipher]

[twin marsh]

Im deadass fucked for this collab

[warm lagoon]

Got some sad news for you you'll probably never get her on companions

[timber cipher]

would be fun to see something like that in future for afk tbf - like getting that sun guy from seven deadly sins would be huge

winter has her unlocked but not build iirc

[twin marsh]

Gotta get Albedo to at least M, my laios is still A1 and gotta wait and see how much investment the others need

[twin marsh]

ye

[warm lagoon]

@twin marsh you play seven deadly sins as well

[twin marsh]

Maybe this gets me to spend again

[twin marsh]

No

Currently only playing this and twd

[timber cipher]

roll the 1700 for avg of 63,1 souls

[warm lagoon]

Oh I misread that

[timber cipher]

like 1700 summons = on avg with milestone rewards at the end 63 dimsouls

[warm lagoon]

On classic Albedo was the first dimensional I paid real cash for

Everybody said I was stupid for buying her instead of Ainz

[twin marsh]

Does that include the freebies they give us?

[timber cipher]

i mean everyone who didnt spent the 10€ on the collab cried after that because they hadn't had garrison yet

[timber cipher]

no with freebees prob like 67ish

freebees in terms of the milestone/banner yes

[warm lagoon]

I had to spend $16 for her

[timber cipher]

might've been 15-16 yea

[twin marsh]

I might be good to go then. Last event I managed to get marci to A5 and laios to A1 without spending, and iirc i had way less saved up

[timber cipher]

really depends on your luck

[warm lagoon]

Second dimensional I bought was QUEEN

[twin marsh]

I’ll just leave laios at A1 and focus on the others

[twin marsh]

Im only getting double pulls wym

[timber cipher]

[vapid lava]

^^

[warm lagoon]

Yeah companion has something higher than A5 they have destiny

[timber cipher]

no divinity is a1-a5

destiny is the scroll

and transencsion is the thing above a5

[warm lagoon]

I still prefer the way you build a dimensional on classic

[timber cipher]

yea it s 10x cheaper

but in terms of resource saveup if you manage your stuff companions isnt bad

its different

[warm lagoon]

My only question is when they bring out another awoken hero from the same faction to the game are you going to have to have another five heroes in that faction ascended

[timber cipher]

you can easily get between collabs 1-2 a5 saved up as f2p

i mean they just brought out aBrutus

[warm lagoon]

Yeah but that didn't answer my question

[timber cipher]

idk if they'll bring out another wilder for free or set way different unlock conditions for it

but atm we dont have full kit and have to get aThane and aBaden first

[warm lagoon]

I have ABrutus but if they bring another awoken Mahler to the game eventually whenever they get the bug out of their butt to do that will I need another five ascended mahler's to get them

[ebon sand]

Hi, sorry for the late reply I just got up, do you still need intel on celehypo stages that were tough?

[timber cipher]

so it'll take a while

and after they're out they'll probably add first the whole kit aswell as divinity for wokes before releasing gen2 wokes

[timber cipher]

can still give that feedback to them - but finished the convo atm with an answer that hinted that they might give us news on another patch

[warm lagoon]

They might not bring the awoken heroes out by generation

[timber cipher]

i mean they're trying to keep classic low, they were on alna release timer and skipped her

with alna voyage

[warm lagoon]

Because they're not releasing them by the order they did in classic

[ebon sand]

ok, all good then, I shared that SS yesterday of the stage I'm stuck at where I deal almost 1B and still lose, there is talene+desirae on that one

[timber cipher]

they have half released kit/abilities even tho they're modeld and are "limiting" abilities - because they'd be to broken

[twin marsh]

I’m pretty sure they will

[warm lagoon]

Because I'm classic they release the fallen Angel and then venom

[timber cipher]

you could also write them and send them the ss tbf but I'll wait for now and chill to see it - they seem to have spoken to the devs about it

[twin marsh]

They have so far, and it’s only logical following their intentions of not releasing anything too broken

[ebon sand]

let's wait and see then

[twin marsh]

Otherwise they would’ve given them divine effects already

[warm lagoon]

Yeah but who's to say they haven't gone in order so who's to say they won't jump one of them

Because technically they have already jumped several of them

because the first one they released on companions wasn't the first one they released on classic she was like the fifth one

[timber cipher]

i mean they started with aTalene and after that aSolise iirc

[warm lagoon]

I say all that to say this I hope they make Belinda to be the first LB on companions

[timber cipher]

but that was pre my server already unlocked

[warm lagoon]

I thought hippo had a video out where ASolise was the first one

Because if I'm not mistaken ATalene was released just before the overlord collab but I could be wrong

[deep solar]

Will we ever get regular solise you think

[maiden hare]

I also prefer it on classic but overall having a fully maxed out dimensional (also a si30 9f e~30 on classic) is waaaay cheaper here in companions especially for f2p's if they manage their resources

you need like ~170k Diamonds for a maxed out dimensional in companions, that's like only the cost of 9f in classic, well maybe a little less now don't have newest number (and don't get me on that rng, because they still didn't reduced that 10 hero wishlist...)

[ebon sand]

sobs

over 1.1B dmg and still losing

[twin marsh]

talene + desira is brutal

[plucky fulcrum]

Saving everything

[vapid lava]

That talene healing is just overwhelming

[ebon sand]

the worst thing it's probably the third rearrangement of heroes to get to squad 5 with different possibilities, it's the best I've had yet but geeze

I'll miss this deal if I don't beat the stage and don't login on phone :/

[timid briar]

nah use lilth store

[autumn lintel]

when new server starting?

[lusty plank]

Fuckin’ hell….finally

[timber cipher]

cc unlocked

i kinda want to normal summon again

well until scarlett gets released

[twin marsh]

Damn

Give me a few

[timber cipher]

am saving even on my f2p

[twin marsh]

I might do that as well

Was just trynna get some copies for Gwen

[maiden hare]

why did you bought that x2 useless oath pack

[twin marsh]

Mine sucks

[timber cipher]

same value as weekly offer bundle

[maiden hare]

[timber cipher]

not that weekly

mean the wekly store

[maiden hare]

ahh

[timber cipher]

or weekly deal idk whats it called

they removed the weekly deal for wish leafs

[maiden hare]

yeah in that weekly it's about the same

[maiden hare]

really?

[timber cipher]

or its hidden behind a useless prepurchase

yea they did a 1500 mithril tier

it was 5k for 70 and then like 10k for 100 and a bit more crap (way less value)

[maiden hare]

wtf 😂

like that pack wasn't "that" good to begin with

[timber cipher]

nah i aint buying that shit anymore so glad that i did the weeks before

[maiden hare]

and they made it even worse

[timber cipher]

yea rough deals for whaling

idk how tank got to spent on basic packs for stargazers at some point

like 10k mithril for 25 sg

[maiden hare]

well if that isn't addiction then idk

[timber cipher]

i believe the korean from s75 went ham and bought everything like someone shared him having a5 pet already

like i went for 950ish atm and are only close before a4

the day 1 offers were the biggest scam and imma never do that again

i thought they'd gatekeep that pet more tbf

[maiden hare]

the $50 deal is there, it just sneaky swapped places

[timber cipher]

but they started doing it with mithril bundles

++ i didnt get the "weakly wishleaf bundle" at all anymore

like it popped up once, i didnt buy it because i was in the hospital and didnt want to bother like spending from my phone with google play or logging in from my phone to lilith store to buy mithril

so i asked for them to give me the offer and its bricked

aahhh mb i found it its still on 10k mithril

thats the 10k tier btw

[maiden hare]

it gets triggered for reaching 100 weekly points, like the normal summons one

[timber cipher]

will look if i get it this week

[maiden hare]

it doesn't popup for me

so you really need to look at the offers on the left side

and click on it

[timber cipher]

tbf not having it popup in your face is kinda nice for f2p

like popups are annoying af if you dont micro

[maiden hare]

yeah but no way they will do it, it's probably only bugged

[timber cipher]

prob

[maiden hare]

had the same problems with SG and the weekly normal summons a lot of times before

[twin marsh]

Is it worth it buying the caravan thing?

[brave plaza]

Get that deal and let me sign it 😁

[timber cipher]

hardly - in terms of % value no

if you wanna advance your pet fast - fine-ish

like you only buy the 50$ bundle because you'd need to get 140 wishes from lilith

but since they reduce value on tier2 bundles in weekly deals from 1400% to 1200% its kinda meh

usally you want to buy the 3000%+ value deals because they're "netneutral" compared to the climbers bundle

so stuff like monthly cards and the monthly season pass aswell as weekly deals for 100 points

and maybe on special events

thats what i do in most cases

but on that dumb pet i kinda went ham because i thought they'll gatekeep

so did an oopsie there

lilith needs to stop doing that to us- hearbreaking how much factionless gear we get

[twin marsh]

Oh that definitely not

I mean with the tide shells

[timber cipher]

prob i just did it on my f2p

like you gain your max ammount anyways and every "store item" is limited to be bought once

so you only have the caravans for tideshells and the daily spirit powers

and if you're smart about it you max out even as f2p you just grind people that are "weaker" but forcing risky stuff at looting - while placing a safe bet for your loot

[maiden hare]

yeah you 100% should if you can (*are in top 60 in your league)

[vapid lava]

Yes

[oblique trellis]

Quick question for older servers. Does the server die really quickly usually after a couple of days?

[vapid lava]

Slowly yeah

Not super quick

[oblique trellis]

Nah like the server started a week ago and all of a sudden its a ghost zone

[vapid lava]

The global chat is dead ?

[oblique trellis]

Pretty much

[vapid lava]

Join a big guild

[oblique trellis]

Its usually me and another guild leader chatting

Im the number two guild on the server bestie

Hahaha

[vapid lava]

Hmmm you just have to keep trying

[oblique trellis]

Expedition I think is wearing on our server

193 and 194 are super cutthroat

[vapid lava]

I talk with lots but our main chats are dead

[oblique trellis]

Im the same way. Im such a social person haha

[vapid lava]

Anyone who is regular

But it is an afk game

[oblique trellis]

I know haha

[vapid lava]

The discord is more active

[oblique trellis]

I should just vibe

Thats good to know!

Ill hang out here too maybe it will rekindle my love haha

[vapid lava]

You can watch them classic folks talk nonsense

[oblique trellis]

Oh no classic scares me

[vapid lava]

Yeah it's alot

[oblique trellis]

Im a filthy casual they can have it haha

[vapid lava]

2nd on your server ? Whale?

[oblique trellis]

Im not the whale

We have only 2 whales on our server

[vapid lava]

Oh?

[oblique trellis]

And the other whale stopped logging in 6 days ago

In the number 1 guild

[vapid lava]

We have a few more lol

Rip

[oblique trellis]

We have the other in our guild

Yeah poor them. Im pretty close with them too

[vapid lava]

They may come back idk

I stopped for 5 days

[oblique trellis]

They lost their whole area in expedition cause guild leader and whale gave up

[vapid lava]

Mmm I feel that

That is tough

But not that bad if you think of the time scale of the game

[oblique trellis]

Right

[vapid lava]

More will come and go

[oblique trellis]

No I get it. Its just odd how server progression is

Like they keep making servers

Really quickly haha

[vapid lava]

Eventually all the active players with lower power/climbing slower will catch up

[oblique trellis]

I hope so. I could use some more decent members xD

Im helping my own out too with how to level

And all that

[vapid lava]

My guild cares more about activity than power

Still #1

[oblique trellis]

Oh

For sure

We have an activity rule

For requirement to be in the guild

Instead of power

[vapid lava]

Ahh we don't lol

We have no requirements

[oblique trellis]

I think it helps with early game

To figure out whos in it for the long run

[vapid lava]

If you are off for like a week ish you'll get kicked

[oblique trellis]

Yeah

Thats like us

[vapid lava]

We are more lenient then the other

[oblique trellis]

And thats good

[vapid lava]

Afk game after all

[oblique trellis]

It is

It reminds me a lot of ffbe

But afk haha

I like it though

[ebon sand]

That's a new one wtf

Where's my Pippa

[oblique trellis]

Pippa is cute

[small portal]

New player should I play classics or companions

[silent ravine]

Try out both for a week

Then decide

[obtuse jay]

Is the new graveborn any good

[mint dove]

u skip , u go for collab ( next patch )

[obtuse jay]

O we have a collab again nice

I have like 350k diamonds saved I think ima go all out

[ebon sand]

Finally, a nice combine

[timber cipher]

double crit double hp and big faction lifesteal is nice

[ebon sand]

yeah and it's the mauler pet that gets the most use,pretty happy about this one 🙂

[timber cipher]

that would be huge with skriath since his true dmg hits do crit

[ebon sand]

I'm still trying to figure out that goddamn stage, I've made idk how many variations by now

[timber cipher]

my closest attempt went to 5-10% orthros hp

and killing all 4 others

but one ult and othros is at 60% and after he gets a kill he gets recast and after a kill the teamcomp crumbles

[ebon sand]

I can beat squad 1 with scarlet instead of audrae but so far freeing her hasn't helped much

[timber cipher]

she kinda likes energy cyclers like estrilda and rowan

[ebon sand]

maybe if you have room for upgrades you can get it

the mvp of first squad for me is abrutus, I tried with arthur or regular brutus it absolutely doesn't work, abrutus does 80% of the job here

[timber cipher]

not sure salaki t1 is kinda far away and every +20 mauler is +21 for me

maybe upgrading kren to a5 +21 will do the job and replacing crassio with frontline numisu and backline kren

smokebomb from divinity might make a change

[timber cipher]

aBrutus knockup + stun is really huge

it clumps enemies, makes them take more aoe dmges from ya and disables them pretty good

[ebon sand]

I've beat this one with audrae instead of gwyn and it was with rowan instead of silas and arthur instead of rosaline but freeing gwyn didn't help for squad 4 or 5 so I put gwyn back here and managed to pass it with silas instead of rowan but at the cost of having to use the owl here, it was no longer working with the GB pet, not sure I'm winning anything but that's where I'm at

[timber cipher]

Hmm not sure what you're le ft with for fight 5 then but if it works - its not too bad

since thane/crassio can be really annoying aswell

skriath on same level diff is ruthless by (new adventure blackwoods thingy with crit boost relics so i thought i might just use raine for fun)

[molten quail]

What is this

[timber cipher]

ahahaha network error thanks

[ebon sand]

shit, this has happened to me more than a few times, only thing to say is rip, start over

do you think athalia is a decent nara counter?

[timber cipher]

in plenty cases yea

[ebon sand]

I can't remember that is what I used

[timber cipher]

if i can tafford my mira

[ebon sand]

you're almost done with ch43 though, nice 🙂

[timber cipher]

i either use mira, athalia or sometimes anti-cc like trishea/salaki/ainz

sometimes i use like brutus/aBrutus

[ebon sand]

trish is definitely great against nara

[timber cipher]

yea now i aBrutus and celestial/hypogean buffs i think i can manage

im somehow with +2-3 levels on you and some people else a bit below combat score

only when i use new pet i crush combat score numbers

in terms of its way higher combat score than other pets

[ebon sand]

yeah it's like you have a 6th S Tier char than can't be attacked

[timber cipher]

yea hate it when that happens but i found a good solution to copy thanks to senf - he pushed onto ch44

[timber cipher]

yea thats crazy and the setup needed is like using skriath or aBrutus with shalltear

[timber cipher]

noticed i had to download like 6mb of stuff think it happens when they drop some data to patch and your client doesnt match the current patch

[ebon sand]

usually it happens when on mobile with unstable connection on my side, so yeah probably a download that doesn't complete would make sense

[timber cipher]

might also be that - didnt notice my lan being disrupted

but might just be

kinda sad to see no other big whales in this chat here

I think you and Astra now both are at 44-52 right?

[ebon sand]

yeah with zephirfalcon

Idk if they're trying

[timber cipher]

this is what they told me

[timber cipher]

damn he's up there aswell 44-52 must be crazy 💀

[ebon sand]

it's zeph that was leading the way for astra since maybe CH42 idk

well selena at the time

I've lost my progress again changing my expidition mines, that's so fucking annoying

[timber cipher]

ooof wtf thats frustrating that it doesnt keep battle while in expedition

so it counts the attacks in expedition as battle log like f.e. attacking in tower while having stages saved in campaign

would be nice quality of life if they all were saved to difference servers like a tower server, a expedition server and a campaign server

and not like just one "battle state server"

[ebon sand]

yeah well, it's not like they could make many QoL improvements but never do any

[vivid temple]

sorry for interupting, what champ do you usually put in stargazing room? I'm f2p

like should I put dimensional?

[ebon sand]

as your first one, talene is usually the way to go

[vivid temple]

It's a mistake if I put regular champs?

[ebon sand]

making spirits to upgrade dimensionals is only useful if you have one unlocked and let's say just a few copies short of a significant ascencion upgrade

[vivid temple]

like if I need for ascended?

[ebon sand]

other than that you usuall only put celestials or hypogeans in SG

never regular heroes

[timber cipher]

no worries - most of the time you do just mortas or twins

after having 1 copy of both its only worth to pull either talene or lucretia atm depending on your serverregion

is pinned in a big beginner guide #companions-questions

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301259004407971840/1353995183724826735/beguiner_guide.jpg?ex=6879f8c7&is=6878a747&hm=0b208c531532a3c254bb06823586cd33ee98c38f51f1e54af5c3e6a12fdce2fb&

[ebon sand]

oooh, my emulator just got an update, the UI is completely new, not sure I like it lol

[vivid temple]

for now I just have 1 copies of: Talene, Athalia, Flora annd Lucretia
and 2 copies of mehira

[vivid temple]

thanks

[timber cipher]

been using bluestacks because i had weird graphic errors with memu i believe

and nox was like flagged as malware for my av

[ebon sand]

I'm using mumu player

I like how you can open several apps and it opens in new tabs like a browser

[foggy osprey]

🤦🏻

why we can’t change teams

[timber cipher]

Because you lock your partner in the pairing section

Imagine you're in the contest - and then swap your teammate to the biggest whale.

[foggy osprey]

you have a point

[timber cipher]

uhm

@ebon sand

Forest Ranger Shalltear +

Talene

• Pet

[ebon sand]

that's a nasty combo

[timber cipher]

other person is more stacked than me

huh why tf do i get a 13k mithril weekly offer

@maiden hare

[maiden hare]

yeah got it too

[timber cipher]

3x 24 hour xp devil lick

[maiden hare]

arena is bugged right now and if you attack you win on the 5th fight no matter the result if you won it or not

[timber cipher]

in fact that won all 5 fights tho

[maiden hare]

you can make 5 troll teams and test it out

[timber cipher]

but crazy if thats bugged

[maiden hare]

yeah but you win even if you lose all the fights

[timber cipher]

cant am in 1st now only on f2p

will try on f2p

[twin marsh]

Get it to 5* already

[timber cipher]

where is my 5$ weekly offer

[timber cipher]

am 1 off 4*

[maiden hare]

I got the wish leafs weekly offer today

[timber cipher]

if i'd buy the 13k packs i have it a4 but maaaaaan

[timber cipher]

got it too today at like 80/100 weekly points

[maiden hare]

even before I had 100 activity points, so it just triggers at Thursday

[timber cipher]

lilith hardcodes triggers for it because spaghetti code destroyed something

[maiden hare]

but it's the first time I didn't get that weekly normal summon thing after reaching 100 activity points in weekly quests

that's SUS

[timber cipher]

yep same, usally you get the sg/normal summon thing

but maybe the values were too good

maybe lilith is like naah we dont want people getting 3000% value offers matching the climbers pack

we only give 1200, 1400, 1500% value offers that are like -80-120% value compared to climbers packs

[maiden hare]

maybe they found my calculator and though, nuh-uh that's to good, the deals aren't even redish we need to change that

[timber cipher]

negative 80% to negative 120%*

[timber cipher]

they saw athalia only being B tier and other hypo/celes on bottom and were like buff that shiet buff buff buff

wtf

i cant write

having a stroke ig

the pet has over 1.2m atk on a4

lvl 383 athalia btw cant match that

[maiden hare]

mine got 957k on A, that's more then any of my heroes

[timber cipher]

its disgustingly good

but obv a4 is on crit defense - a5 has the wanted crit rating increase

[twin marsh]

Bro

Imagine the next awk beast they release

[timber cipher]

prob defensively or utility wise stacked

owl v2

more haste than mehira twins combined - casually giving 160 haste

[twin marsh]

By the way, how much have you spent for a3 so far?

[timber cipher]

well the day one 840 was rough

afterwards 3x 50, 1x 100 climber pack and 1x end of week pack 8

so 1098 for 1 copy off a4

but the day 1 was like completly overkill bad

if you're smart about it and only buy end of week and 3000%+ value thingies it'll be way less

[twin marsh]

How many pulls is that?

[timber cipher]

i mean its like atleast 16 copies from packs directly

18 is a0
27 a1
36 a2
45 a3
54 a4

and on avg you need like 30 pulls with 3,3% odds
so 54x30 = 1620 if im not wrong

probably a bit less because of luck

[twin marsh]

Yeah I’ll stay away from that, no shot

[timber cipher]

like its giga p2w trash that imma abuse aslong as its good and its not 7 team combat use 20 different pets

[twin marsh]

Will just keep farming from expedition and then eventually pull a few copies for a new one

[timber cipher]

yea I'd just honestly collect and maybe spent on end of week 8$ bundle

if low spender

and then see where ya end up with, if they release more broken stuff and pull when you have enough

like collecting with stargazers

[maiden hare]

well I ascended that pet with ~100$ and a "bit of luck"

[timber cipher]

i mean i have a very aggressive and good league

[maiden hare]

got x2 one time and after that x2 back to back

[timber cipher]

so i think my league alone has gotten me over 150 leafs

like expedition rewards are honestly good

will probably nerfed as everything else

[maiden hare]

yeah they will get nerfed -50% minimum next season...

[twin marsh]

Im not top 60 unfortunately 😔

Been slacking lately ngl

[timber cipher]

but its juicy and unkept

as i said, didnt think they were so generous and they'd gatekeep that shit

[timber cipher]

thats a toughy - espacially if your league is performing well

like i have pretty juicy numbers with
2x t8 special gem veins
2x t7 special gem veins
6x t5 special gem veins
2x t7 normal gem veins
2x t6 normal gem veins
2x t8 dust veins

• the leafs from expedition milestones
• leafs from taking important structures

• caravan
• hopefully later gilded city +30 leaf rewards

like rewards are somehow stacked this time

probably the reason why montes is so invested in this mode

or he just has fun with it

but tbf on first gf we had at that time this diamond value

[twin marsh]

It was nuts

Miss that 😔

It would definitely make pulling for the dims much easier rn

[timber cipher]

i mean 644 + milestones is also not to shabby

but it'd would've been by far better overall for everyone

now the strongest leagues and espacially top 60 profit from the leaf stacking

as f.e. sailus says 100$ and 18 copies of new pet is pretty nice

[twin marsh]

Does he work at A tho?

[timber cipher]

has pretty high values already - the main thing is he gets the juiciest buff on a2

[maiden hare]

he works at mythic in DR, PVP and Expedition don't know about campaign

[timber cipher]

increased vortex from 3s to 5s is big

[maiden hare]

he is pretty broken in Expedition, as well as owl, those two deal almost the most dmg if you take a look at your battle reports

[timber cipher]

i tested a bit on a1 was crazy

but went straight to a3 + finding out about campaign clumping with skriath/aBrutus

and for pvp shalltear/talene

with that is the gamechanger

[maiden hare]

Okay arena isn't bugged

it's just that we can slide that bar now

[timber cipher]

ui "improvements"

would be nice to have an indicator that you can scroll that

[maiden hare]

yup already gave feedback on that to support

[timber cipher]

bless you

holy shit bune comapred to others

[obtuse jay]

Where is this

[maiden hare]

it was here before the hotfix

it's gone now

probably some incoming event

[timber cipher]

@ebon sand they buffed hypogeans and celestial like somewhat between 5-10% from what we have in screenshots right

then they said they nerfed them for the pve enemies - what if they just offset the buff they gave them

like what if the buff also applied to enemy celestial/hypogeans - so they just took that buffed amount away from the stage enemies

i can imagine that they spaghettied it that way

[timber cipher]

senf had this a couple of days ago

[twin marsh]

For how expensive this is they could at least let whales pick the buffs

[maiden hare]

I think this pet has all the buffs you can get

[timber cipher]

Yep but the most important are the last 2 crit defense and crit rating

a4 cdr a5 cr

[dusky knot]

Doesnt matter if senf has the buff or not

The Korean Kraken make deal with the Maids and their League to force Senf to either leave the League or leave his guild, 🤷🏻‍♂️

So senf either loss all the better resources he can get from the expedition event - which is permanent mode now and be pretty much back to back event

Or become the kraken underling 🤷🏻‍♂️

[undone fox]

When did the last server come out?

[timid briar]

wtf

[timber cipher]

thats rough s75 drama

[timid briar]

that kraken drama

[dusky knot]

Lile he had beef with Kasu, she already quit, and senf wasnt even there when it happen

[timber cipher]

Yea thats kinda ass not looking for solutions

[dusky knot]

Yes, K-Drama indeed 😭

[timber cipher]

i just remember he called the discord racist because he was known as korean, becuase no one can translate his name easily

[dusky knot]

Which the diversity we have in here, I think he is the racist one 🤷🏻‍♂️

[lusty plank]

KangYoon or something

[pine sable]

lmfao i was so confused earlier today

[timber cipher]

lmao

i roached out about a data center not being "reachable" because every contact that we have there is via mail on vacation/out of house

and you cant even call through

freakkkkkin summer time

welp roaching out not my problem ig, now its mexicos problem

time to push 43-52 in afk

that pet is on crack

[timber cipher]

@maiden hare made a reverse calc for 63 dimsouls

since 1700 summons showed avg would end up with 63.10 dim souls

intrestingly enough its very even and that were 10m - ig you spike at 1500 because of last milestone

and after that there is only the dim gear to get

so in terms of math if you dont care about dim gear / have enough leftover stopping before 1700 can be smart

but i think you can never have enough dim gear

[pine sable]

@timber cipher is it worth using at mythic already?

[timber cipher]

didnt test it on mythic - but sailus said yes

[pine sable]

okay tyty

[timber cipher]

remember he is good with talene/shalltear

and clumping like skriath/aBrutus

[dark yoke]

@timber cipher @maiden hare I may be a little wrong, but the data is "most likely." It doesn't mean much beyond being a guide for players and having a idea of how much you'll earn with X resources. After all, statistically, what matters for an account is one of these runs and not an average of all of them. Wouldn't it be smarter to see how viable it is to invest in this?

For example, if I can make 1,400 rolls, is it worth stopping at 1,000, 800 or do all my 1400? I think this is better for understanding how milestones affect the final result, and when it starts to lose value and where it is not worth pulling.

[timber cipher]

Obviously its best to stop at a milestone

but you are guaranteed one pity after each 60 pulls

so idk if you reached a milestone but have like 10-30 pulls to go for the next epic pity copy - who am I to tell you to stop on the milestone

[timber cipher]

statistically its the best to stop after 420 I believe

like you have these + 2 gear afterwards

and after 420

the next milestone will be 500

so every milestone is 80 souls away

but every milestone is statistically more worth than f.e. divine pulls on normal heroes like trishea

because you get a dimsoul a full epic copy after or 2x mythic faction gear - which both are usally very pricey

[dark yoke]

if we divide between 0-480 and 480-980 and 980-1700, maybe we can get an idea of how much value we lost, considering that most players will not have 1700 pulls it would be interesting

[timber cipher]

i mean if you can only reach 1100 atm

ofc it'd be best to stop at 980

I mean if you want the values for it here they are:
0-480: Avg souls per pull = 0.0325
480-980: Avg souls per pull = 0.0302
980-1700: Avg souls per pull = 0.0288

[dark yoke]

but we have no idea how much worse it is, to the point of choosing whether to save it for the next collab or using it in other things

By the way, do you have any idea how much the set would be worth in diamonds?

[timber cipher]

ah wait did an error i just fed it the code and it didnt math properly

this is the correct math behind it

[timber cipher]

in what case?

[dark yoke]

now i have that info, i mean, i'm in a brazillian group who don't know about that and don't understand the graph

so it's difficul to communicate with them

[timber cipher]

dimensional souls have an "eventvalue" of 15k

Diamond: 1, Stargazer: 750, Destiny Summons: 300, Faction Scrolls: 300, Normal Scrolls: 210, Hero Spec. (1 from 5): 26550, Hero Chest (4 Heroes): 14829, Red Chest: 198, Gold Em.: 78, Purple Em.: 48, Pet A4*: 20250, 1 Aw. Pet: 16500, Pet Scrolls: 300, Wish Leaf: 500, Spirit Dew: ?, Dust 2h: 100, Exp 2h: 100, Elite Stones: 87.5, Blue Stones: 7.95, Mythic EQ: 3500, T1 Stone: 10311, T2 Stone: 14400

https://onedrive.live.com/personal/427b2828109cc35c/_layouts/15/Doc.aspx?sourcedoc={dd6509fa-c37d-49b8-bde3-ee3e0601a784}&action=default&redeem=aHR0cHM6Ly8xZHJ2Lm1zL3gvYy80MjdiMjgyODEwOWNjMzVjL0Vmb0paZDE5dzdoSnZlUHVQZ1lCcDRRQmN5d1lMT0tHTThhQUFNRDdFZUtMTVE_ZT1RY3FYZUU&slrid=c9b3b2a1-6030-d000-5dab-a730ae43a966&originalPath=aHR0cHM6Ly8xZHJ2Lm1zL3gvYy80MjdiMjgyODEwOWNjMzVjL0Vmb0paZDE5dzdoSnZlUHVQZ1lCcDRRQmN5d1lMT0tHTThhQUFNRDdFZUtMTVE_cnRpbWU9d2pKTzdrakYzVWc&CID=179d6688-fecf-4066-b106-ee1b04a82a8e&_SRM=0:G:68

[dark yoke]

for example, if it's worth only doing 980 pulls and save until you can do 1700

[timber cipher]

i mean if they dont know about it they can recalculate stuff on their own

[verbal forge]

its very simple colabs have the best value cuz u can build heroes very easly

the downside is they might be shit

no one knows if they are good or bad

i expect at least one of the 2 to be decent

[timber cipher]

idk what you mean by "they dont know what the graph means" - if they dont understand it they can ask about it

it just means on what spikes you're mostlikely to hit the best averages

averages - so you can have worse or better luck

if the average value is 63

it means when somebody is lucky and pulls 67

some else has to be less lucky and pull f.e. 59

[verbal forge]

in colabs usualy when its 2 heroes one is good/decent the other is average or straight trash

[timber cipher]

we do also have a minimum result on the graph

[verbal forge]

but u at least get out with 1 good hero

[timber cipher]

so they can always calculate with the minimum

[verbal forge]

you can also just pull for only dimensional souls and keep them for arthur or when merlin/da vinci comes

[timber cipher]

so if i ask for 63 souls at worst you might pull 2250ish

why because we have the pity system

[dark yoke]

they asked about the efficiency, and I couldn't answer, there are also extremes of luck, which cannot be ignored, so I didn't want to give an answer without understanding exactly the purpose of the calculations

[timber cipher]

Yes, but they do learn about math and and the "normal curve of distribution"

if they wanna think they're him and expect huge amounts of luck they can do that - but they shouldn't

i mean its open source code

oops

[dark yoke]

You can easily understand the graph knowing the formula, but for people who don't know it, it's a little difficult to understand.

[timber cipher]

we 2 fixed values:
GUARANTEED_PULLS = sorted({60, 120, 180, 240, 300, 500, 580, 660, 740, 820, 1100, 1200, 1300, 1400, 1500})

PULL_COST = 300

and beside that a counter that does random events with this:

2% Drop Chance or 60 Pulls Pity

if random.random() < 0.02 or pity_counter >= 60:
got_hero = True

[weak blaze]

Hey Iperx no clue what your Talking about to much Numbers for me

But do you mind telling me how realistic it is for me to Build Both of the new Heros Ill send u a Pic of my Ressources

[timber cipher]

a program that does calculate your odds for specific events

like simulating a specific amount of pulls

or simulating a wanted number of dimsouls

[weak blaze]

I got that Part

[timber cipher]

yes i can do that for 1mil simulation it takes like 1min - for 10mil like 8ish

[weak blaze]

But because u didnt Account for Pity i wasnt sure what to do with those Numbers

[timber cipher]

we accounted for pity and milestones

[weak blaze]

Ah really

[timber cipher]

yes

it has the pitycounter in it

[weak blaze]

So 1 hero = 300 pulls(

Or did i missunderstand something

[pine sable]

i just use him with my dims

[timber cipher]

no you missunderstand something

[weak blaze]

I dont understand Code Hahah

[dark yoke]

that's what I'm saying, that's the common reaction for people who haven't seen the code

[timber cipher]

like i can tell you the numbers that i got for a 1700 pull simulation

1700 all milestones ended me up with

avg amount of dimensional souls 63,1

and if you devide the 1700 pulls by the 63,1 dimensionals souls = you get one dimensional soul every 26,9 pulls

[weak blaze]

So we can round up to 30 to make the Math easier say that if we Need 21 Spirits that would be about 600 pulls for 1 5*?

[timber cipher]

tl;dr you can give me how many dimsouls you're asking for

or you can give me your gems/divine scrolls and i can simulate the ammount of pulls possible with that

[weak blaze]

..

[timber cipher]

not really since you get different milestone - so different peaks

[weak blaze]

I sent a pic up there

350 scrolls 85k diamonds

[timber cipher]

alright will do 350 and 88k

[weak blaze]

Till Release probably 100k

[timber cipher]

can do 350 and 100k

[cold current]

Yo, what exactly are you calculating?

[timber cipher]

683 pulls

1minute

[weak blaze]

Yes

[weak blaze]

So i would get one 5 Star and One l+

[timber cipher]

so atleast 19 souls based on pity and milestones
on avg 27
and if you're very lucky way more

[weak blaze]

Or something around that area

[cold current]

Souls as in dimensional spirits or just heroes?

[timber cipher]

dimensional spirits

[cold current]

Got it

[weak blaze]

Thats alright

[cold current]

Where can I get the full code?

[timber cipher]

you cant really calc for heroes since they're not targeted as in divine scrolls

[timber cipher]

https://github.com/aesoopIT/afk_companion/blob/main/chances_simulator.py

takes 100% of your cpu atm is not that deep

[cold current]

Thanks

[weak blaze]

If we Account for the free stuff we get and the time i get farming diamonds i can probably optimally Build Both Right?

[timber cipher]

oof if you account for freestuff you have probably 27 + 4-6

so not really

[weak blaze]

1,5k diamonds from GG and 20k from arena

[weak blaze]

Daily

[dark yoke]

If we take the difference between the efficiency of 980 and 1700, and add the value of the third set of armor, then we can say whether it is worth going after it or just ignoring going above 1000 pulls, I may be thinking of something very specific, but it is interesting for planning

[timber cipher]

if you stack up more we can sim it

[cold current]

By the time of the event, I should have 300 destiny scrolls and 120k diamonds. Enough for 1 fully ascended hero, but idk about 2

[timber cipher]

i mean if that helps you its not that different

[dark yoke]

thanks, that's it

[timber cipher]

milestones on dimensional events are all worth it imo in terms of value compared to everything else in afk

[weak blaze]

So Iperx we have to estimate but 1,5k Daily we kann say around 30k from that 20k from arena so i would have around 400 scrolls and 150k diamonds at the very least

[timber cipher]

because they're far more effective than milestone on normal checkpoints

like a full dimensional soul with worth f.e. 60 divine scrolls

and you get in normal divine scroll summons at the first 60 checkpoint only 10 divine scrolls back

[timber cipher]

will sim that for ya with another 1mil runs

[weak blaze]

Okay

[cold current]

Where do you get 1.5k per day? Am I missing something or I just never realised it?

[weak blaze]

The Event

Dont know the English Name

[timber cipher]

expidition / golden frontier

[weak blaze]

Frontier something i think

[cold current]

Ah, ok

[timber cipher]

900pulls exactly

[weak blaze]

Okay that should be 1 5 Star one ascended prob

[dark yoke]

is a dimensional set worth 25k dims?

[timber cipher]

you had one 5 star already with avg 27

[timber cipher]

idk dim gear is more rare and only obtainable on events

i think its always worth to get it

[weak blaze]

Id say no

But u have to get those to pull for more so either way

Doesnt really matter

[timber cipher]

i calculated it with 3.5k gems for event value

[weak blaze]

Iperx do your calculations take into consideration that u only get a free Dim every 100 pulls from 1000 pulls onward?

[timber cipher]

tho i used the normal chest as reference

[timber cipher]

yes

[weak blaze]

Thats cool

[timber cipher]

GUARANTEED_PULLS = sorted({60, 120, 180, 240, 300, 500, 580, 660, 740, 820, 1100, 1200, 1300, 1400, 1500}) it uses that

those are the milestones

[weak blaze]

I also completely forgot that dims will prob be around for 1month not 2 weeks

[timber cipher]

the pity counter is modeld in here

2% Drop Chance or 60 Pulls Pity

    if random.random() < 0.02 or pity_counter >= 60:

= comment no code

the thing just says either 2% odd or you pulled greater or equal 60

[weak blaze]

Interesting

[timber cipher]

while any(s < needed for s, needed in zip(souls, souls_needed_list)):
pulls += 1
pity_counter += 1
got_hero = False

and this counts up to the 60 for every pull

and it asks if the 2% random event happend or not with the got hero

[weak blaze]

Did the Simulation finish?

[timber cipher]

oh yea sorry lmao

[weak blaze]

So almost Both Build probably but not quite

[timber cipher]

46 is build both

so kinda 11 short on avg

with good luck build both

with bad luck build one

[weak blaze]

Asuming that Not Both will Need a5 its possible for me to Build them in time

Oh Iperx i completely forgot

[dark yoke]

for the last 200 pulls, if it's worth getting that set

[timber cipher]

assuming we have one more month and expidition is a permanent gamemode - I'd say for sure

[weak blaze]

I still have 2 dims in Pocket does that make a difference?

[timber cipher]

i mean that sets you avg from 35 to 37 as +2

so kinda if you're very lucky

[weak blaze]

Okay

I estimated konservatively so with One month to work on it it should be a easy deal

[timber cipher]

i mean it depends on your heroes

you need faction gear to upgrade to t1/t2 stones

you brick your characters without that gear

so you value is hard to say because lilith never sold us dimensional gear in events

and you can only remodel the estimated value

[dark yoke]

it sold, but the price of one piece is extreme

[timber cipher]

if you say a dimsoul is worth 15k

and the checkpoints are 2 dimgear

than a dimgear is worth atleast 7500 diamonds

[timber cipher]

no they do not sell dimgear - only in events

[dark yoke]

yeah

event i mean

[timber cipher]

and if you look at this event you get for one checkpoint 2x gear

so it will be always worth compared to everything else

since in the event you have values like this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yzQWOwfKH8uRK9NkQKUWf99WgXPlXiWJiCC2psw-wcc/edit?gid=769409469#gid=769409469

here is a value sheet i modeld for magicians hat calc

[dark yoke]

if you need that armor

[timber cipher]

you will need it if you pull for the event you build a character to a5

[dark yoke]

I don't think it's worth as much if it's placed on characters that aren't dimensional

[timber cipher]

for every character that you do build you need atleast 4x gear

yes but considering that you pull dimensional souls on a new dimensional event you have a new hero that needs atleast 4x gear

and if you pull f.e. even more like 46 souls like idk 1200ish-1400 pulls or what it is

then you need atleast 8x gear

so lilith is basically giving you perfect checkpoints for gear that adds up in terms of math

[dark yoke]

you can gather more than 1k pulls between the collabs, so it's not like you can't get the 2 sets, for F2P isn't really valuable because they only build 2 characters per collab and don't get arthur (until now)

[timber cipher]

if you pull 1700 times (all milestones)

you're expected 63 dimsouls on average

you need 23 for each dim hero

so you're 6 dimensional souls short of a 5th a5 dim hero

[weak blaze]

Iperx do you have any guess on if those Heros will be Meta?

[timber cipher]

no clue

we have no leaks from classic test (that is sometimes 7d prior)

[dark yoke]

true

[timber cipher]

our companions test was idk arround 3d prior iirc

[weak blaze]

Okay

[timber cipher]

so we cant say if they're good :/

I'd say wait or pull w.e. you need to finish atleast your good heroes

but do not instantly ascend them

wait to see how good what hero is

[weak blaze]

Thats obvious

[timber cipher]

and then take a smart decision

[weak blaze]

Yh

U will p2w anyway right?

[timber cipher]

will make the 1700 full

i wont pull over milestones but i will pay for good value packs on s84

did 1700 last time aswell since after milestones its not really worth to pull anymore

[weak blaze]

So u will have a couple dims in Pocket

[timber cipher]

will have a bit bonus to t1 some dims

[weak blaze]

Nice

[timber cipher]

atm only marci and shall at t1

might keep 10 souls for shall t2

might see whether others are broken

my pvp guys are close to t3 or welp ariella already has t3s

region is kinda contested

[weak blaze]

What do you think off my almost f2p Account

Chapter 42 rn

[timber cipher]

dayum t hat is very good

[weak blaze]

I only bought 2 Monthly packs to try and keep up with the Level back then

[timber cipher]

+20 aBrutus, +20 ainz and maybe +20 tasi sooner or later and you're good to go

[dark yoke]

6 SI30 is insane

[timber cipher]

mythic mortas good quite some good buffs and is sometimes campaign viable btw

i say that at 43-56

[weak blaze]

I have enough si in Pocket to Finish almost 2 from 0 to 30

[dark yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-monsters-vs-aliens-speechless-what-i-do-what-we-gon-do-bout-that-gif-5698728855178858064

[weak blaze]

My mate has si30 so i didnt bother bcs mines 2 Star only anyway

[timber cipher]

can only say if you want to low spent

go with the monthly battle pass aswell as the monthly cards

[weak blaze]

Those Times Are over

The Return on invest is to low for me atp

[timber cipher]

si+30 a0 is worse than having a si+20 a3 and you even have a5

[weak blaze]

Im taking about Brutus

who Are You Talking about

[timber cipher]

ainz

[weak blaze]

Ah nah im Dying on that hill

His utility lies in his a5 not his si

He works perfectly Fine at 10

[timber cipher]

aBrutus still worth to push to +20 for maulertower / kingtower / forked fate

[weak blaze]

Even at 0

[weak blaze]

Yh After the dims

If theyre strong them First yk

[timber cipher]

yea thats good to have

stacked up abit aswell

[weak blaze]

Woah hahaha

[timber cipher]

but damn dust is getting dusty in that inv

i mean your red emblems are nice

[weak blaze]

What Are this things in your inv Haha

That Triangle in the Corner and those scrolls

[timber cipher]

the triangle is p2w currency

[weak blaze]

Ah

[timber cipher]

the red scrolls are bugged from caravan buy

idk if you need to use them pre registeration

but its the thing you spent 5k gems on and stay in a league

[weak blaze]

Ah okay

I had to Switch anyway

My Guild wouldve lost

[timber cipher]

yea i didnt register

[weak blaze]

Ah so Thats why theyre there

[timber cipher]

was the best decision didnt had to leave but if i had registerd as guild prob wouldnt have ended where i am

++ was in hospital at that time and didnt want to bother with diplomatic stuff

[weak blaze]

I focused on those from the start

[weak blaze]

Yh Thats better

[timber cipher]

my s157 is on the way to the 3rd +30 so pretty doable - and very nice - you did nothing wrong with that so far

my defense is solid

[weak blaze]

Yh 100%

I can’t quite keep up with like 10 people from Arena

[timber cipher]

arena is kinda in a weird spot with the new pet

but im sniped anyways i just stopped bothering for the first place for the sake of my sleep schedule

[weak blaze]

But i usually Finish top 10 anyway because in my bracket from S3-4 Most strong Players Are in my Guild and we have an no Attack Policy on the last day

Top 5 Even

[timber cipher]

like just better to sleep well, work well, get more money and in worstcase p2w 50€ more instead of losing 3 hours of sleep for like 5k arena tokens, 1k gems and a divine scroll

[weak blaze]

This was last Week i oversleept

But as u can see my Guild is owning the Ranks

[timber cipher]

still good and very niceto duo with 1st

[weak blaze]

Funny enough my mate is favourite

Yh he usually Takes 1. i take top 5

[weak blaze]

Im Broke rn and usually awake at that time anyway soo

[timber cipher]

my servers 2nd place guy, other wahle went 7d idle

richter stopped spneding quite a while ago and got overtaken by a russian mate

times are rough for s84

[weak blaze]

Yh whales usually stop faster than f2p

43 is crazy

Almost 44

[timber cipher]

its hard but i have p2w pet

[weak blaze]

Also pretty interesting i believe we Are the only Cross Server Duo in our Arena

[timber cipher]

so idk hope to get the small advantage and outpace slowly but surely by small xp production

[weak blaze]

Yh 3star i saw that

[timber cipher]

yea i duod once with some folks like paintress and ariella

but okk1n came back (paintresses duo)
and ariella found another duo aswell so i went back to richter

he usally is top 50 so not the worst

[weak blaze]

Yh for you definetly those diamonds dont matter

[timber cipher]

i just think that its hard if you stop duoing with your server folk they kinda tend to quit and get sad/mad

and i understand that like ofc if i leave a person where should he find a replacement duo at in an instant

[timber cipher]

yea but the arena coins from having 2 ppl in top 1-5 makes it so that you can get 2x red emblems + 15 dim/hypo shards

atm im buying gold/silver emblems anyways but would've been quite nice to max out mortas just for the reason for zero-limit or maybe trying a weird pvp comp

[weak blaze]

I only buy emblems

And from Both top 5 u get more than enough to buy all Emblems

I got more than 100k extra

[maiden hare]

do git pull I changed the frequency axis for percentage, it's easier to understand

[scarlet tundra]

Where did you find the new codes? I noticed there's new codes but i didn't see them posted in fb and in this gift code channel

[quick hinge]

Weak

[timber cipher]

done

[timber cipher]

i mean i do that too but i'd like to build out and overflow and yea with 2x top10

or 1x top1 and a top10 way easier

[timber cipher]

that mf senf has new pet a5

[timber cipher]

somebody tell senf to chill

[quick hinge]

Oh he maxed it?

Ooo he did

[timber cipher]

he maxed it

[quick hinge]

He's gotten fat

[timber cipher]

anita max win

[quick hinge]

Imagine if he stayed quitto

An didn't come back

[timber cipher]

he is close to overpushing tank now

[quick hinge]

?

[timber cipher]

senf is forcing s75 korean whale to continue

they bully senf kokanagi said

[quick hinge]

Oh

Bc he joined him in the guild mode

But the Korean saw he wa with my guild

[quick hinge]

And kicked him out

[timber cipher]

kasu quit but the drama continues

you enraged that mf for generations

[quick hinge]

Sen said he won't ever leave

He loyal

[timber cipher]

guild needs to be renamed, place needs to be burned down

delete the traces of kasu

[quick hinge]

A child couldn't handle some comp

So he threw a hissy fit

[timber cipher]

d2 rename kasu to Usak

[quick hinge]

?

[timber cipher]

reverse kasu

[quick hinge]

[timber cipher]

[quick hinge]

-.-

[timber cipher]

omg

usak sounds like u suck

guess better name needed

[quick hinge]

Mhm

That's why I thought u said it

[timber cipher]

Imusak

[quick hinge]

We know u suc

[timber cipher]

to high for whales to decypher

im you suck

kasu you have a cursed name

[timber cipher]

one day you'll make me pull malware

python delete system32 edition

just in case find out whether its linux and also delete system d for good measure

[ebon sand]

I fucking did it!!!!!!!!!

damn, finally!!!! I'm so relieved the final key was freeing mira

from squad 3 (thane cecilia crassio team)

@timber cipher I've seen your msg in notifications about the celehypo stuff and I think you're probably right and also, I won that damn stage!

[maiden hare]

nooooo 👀

[timber cipher]

holy gigachad

first one to beat that abyssmal stage

[uneven cypress]

pretty nice rewards for... 44-52

could've atleast been 151 gems

[pine sable]

i love the player level up rewards even more

holy fck TEN whole diamonds

ty lilith ur so generous

[oblique trellis]

Impressive!!

[uneven cypress]

bros like OMG YOU PLAYED OUR GAME FOR YEARS??? AND YOURE LVL 512 AND STAGE 44-52 ??? HOW ABOUT 160 gems

[ebon sand]

NGL, I was shaking a bit when I witnessed the final victory, what was it, like 2 weeks of struggle?

[oblique trellis]

Hahaha

[uneven cypress]

meanwhile me struggeling in stage 9...

lmao

[oblique trellis]

Its always struggle to progress

But its fun

[ebon sand]

I recorded the 5 replays, I can upload if anyone's interested

[uneven cypress]

chief yom

is Mehira good?

[ebon sand]

yeah she's great, mine's only L though

I'm focusing on celestials first

[uneven cypress]

mines purp

i got her twice only

[ebon sand]

nice

[uneven cypress]

needa get to 10-10

for my first telesa

[timber cipher]

orthros doesnt feel nerfed

[pine sable]

mine is mythic for a while now and still not even si10

[timber cipher]

weakeast orthros

Aaaaaaaaaa

one more shalltear crit but she didnt crit

[uneven cypress]

yk whats funny

i see you saying " AAAAAAAAAAAA " probably in a screaming way. meanwhile im playing a game with a friend where we scream almost 24/7 xD

[timber cipher]

[uneven cypress]

Screaming Steve iykyk

[timber cipher]

like orthros is such a stupid fat gatekeeper

@ebon sand i found the way they nerfed him ... they gave the cele/dims +10% stats but took 2 stars away he is only a3 lol

wait i lied - tanks solution also only has a3 orthros so hm

[twin marsh]

Like wtf is this

[timber cipher]

big rewards

huge win

since when is lilith so generous - giving us 10 scolls for logging in daily - but 8 scrolls for doing an annoying riddle

[twin marsh]

Deadass starting to think companions is a experiment for Lilith to see just how scummy they can be and get away with it

[timber cipher]

nah top tier classic is already worse when you want to compare to that highborn bs

its not generous in terms of reward BUT in companions we get engravings and furniture with divinity done

like 2 deadass bad p2w systems that we skipped

we got p2w pets but well classic has them already too - like some people are always talking about seal or other stuff

[twin marsh]

They don’t get things like this at least

Like how can this be called an event

We get more destiny summons daily from guild boss

[timber cipher]

classic has

ascension, engravings after a1, furniture after ascension, pets, relics with ghoulish gallery

have to buy 1 summon for wokes daily (like 1 every 4 month?)

have to build 1 highborn (every 12-15 month) while another powercreep releases every couple months

and also have stargazers for weird newgen hypogean and celestials

like stargazers, wokegazers, highborngazers as systems aswell

it is bad bad bad if you compare them evenly and fair side by side

they just spoon feed you a couple of more freebees so the whales see some activity - so that they can sealclub the non spenders

like classic gets as much free resources so you dont quit because it is that bad

[timber cipher]

but i think giving that little scrolls for like 30min of your time of content is wrong - yea

like the more you understand about the 3 toptier systems and freaking requirements of different comps and their dependencies with dog rng weapons like ghoulish gallery and way worse petsystem - its mindboggling

like a relic system like ghoulish gallery would probably get me to quit

[tranquil pewter]

where did this hero come from?

[timber cipher]

hidden release, but the hero is so bad that they just dropped him in

its his voyage of wonders - probably thats why

still makes me mad that we had ALNA voyage of wonders, we were on a celestial release timer

and they skipped Alna probably because she is too strong atm

so they gave us zaphrael/lucretia and now walker

[tranquil pewter]

Idk alna

[twin marsh]

That pisses me off so bad lmao

Lowkey would rather just not have that event

[tranquil pewter]

And on his trial one hero named peggy

[timber cipher]

i mean its good res for new servers but aside from that trash

[timber cipher]

yea we had in abex s1 s2 already plenty of non released heroes from classic

peggy is like a summon/mage/support for lightbearer - not really good tho

[timber cipher]

prob because most of trials are copy paste - resources are ingame and you know why bother changing non released heroes

its lazy

[tranquil pewter]

Companion like step child

New collab is solo leveling is true?

[timber cipher]

very probable

fits from hints/theme

no leaks yet, no testserver - so cant say

well testserver is online but it didnt get a patch yet

[tranquil pewter]

If yes, will be a big hype

[timber cipher]

yea will be like overlord

would be lovely to see them releasing two completly broken dims for my collection I'd be feasting on campaign stages

yummy yummy

orthros is gatekeeping me at 43-56

[tranquil pewter]

Finally we have master of mewing

[tranquil pewter]

Yeah he annoying if he on enemy but trash if we use

[timber cipher]

lets see which version we get of them - or if we get them at all

like if we get like B-A tier jin-woo pre his whole broken summons - he might not be that great

but I believe the studio of sololeveling probably has some say in it and wants them to be op/desireable as with the overlord collab

[tranquil pewter]

I think jinwo will be great as summoner depends assasin

In this game

[timber cipher]

yea lets see, atm nobody knows

[tranquil pewter]

Cant wait

[twin marsh]

We should be getting infos in a week right?

[timber cipher]

depends - atleast the patchnotes that they're coming and wha type of class they're

but last time it was like 7-10d prior with leaks

like delicous in dungeon infos where from some kind of chinese ability test video from classic-servers

[tranquil pewter]

How much spin go get 4 gear dim i forget

[timber cipher]

like the trial

[timber cipher]

480

[tranquil pewter]

Iam suck atm to much use diamond

[timber cipher]

420 - 480 is 4 dim gear

900 - 980 is another 4 dim gear

and i believe 1600 - 1700 is the last 4 dimgear

like 420 is 2, 480 is 2

900 is 2, 980 is 2

1600 is 2, 1700 is 2

[tranquil pewter]

Oh yeah i remember as f2p 980 its optimal spin

If i can spin 500 at the begining event i can reach 480 on 30 days event?

[timber cipher]

depends on expidition, event rewards and everything like that

[ebon sand]

Putting my replays of 44-52 here, can't post directly on the guild's DC

[timber cipher]

but im uncertain - 480 in 30d is probably not doable

[tranquil pewter]

oh no

[timber cipher]

holy scarlett is huge imagine her with t2 weapon

[ebon sand]

in my first iterations it was Audrae at this spot, so it's not an easy char to replace

in the end I didn't end up using Audrae at all now that I think about it

my crassio wasn't Si 30 yet in the replay, but now he is!!

[timber cipher]

very nice

[ebon sand]

yeah if it weren't for the incoming collab, I'd work on skriath now

I wasn't too sure he was worth it in the past but now I am thanks to you

[timber cipher]

he is very nieche and needs his own rng/setup but i think you'll like him

[ebon sand]

Mine's decent he only need emblems to be great (and more fodders as always )

but I guess I'll save for the collab now

hopefully one of the two will be good enough at si20, like Laios

have you checked the other replays btw? I still can't believe I beat squad 3 without Mira, it's the one thing that allowed me to beat squad 5

[timber cipher]

Yea - need to see what their kits are first and then what the numbers are

So saving up is probably the best idea

[timber cipher]

Yea I did see all 5 - i just saw a rowan dodging a thane for 10s or something

that was insane not sure how long you needed for that but that fight took probably ages

[ebon sand]

that's quite crazy yeah, I put the PC out of sleep a couple hours ago, emulator still in autobattle at this squad and I think it beat it right away? Or the next attempt maybe but I was like "no way I lose this progress" I couldn't believe my eyes

squad 4 was already figured out but for the last one it took like 10mins once Mira was included, that team is wild lol

[timber cipher]

Yea like stage-pushing is crazy draining if I hadn't had as much home office recently I wouldn't bother

Its still insane to see you beyong 44-52

I can't get past 43-56 atm

[ebon sand]

cheers, you'll get it!

[timber cipher]

sooner or later hopefully, I'll try to rest a bit im having a bit of a headache

[ebon sand]

that was me yesterday :/ went straight to bed

[timber cipher]

AAAAAAAAA

thats the worst joke

drank a lot of water, took some meds against the headache on autoplay and just saw that when i wanted to shut down the the pc

[ebon sand]

oku is wild there

[timber cipher]

its either oku or orthros dang

and oku punched shalltears buff off so she didnt revive 3 times

[timber cipher]

yea feel like i have to go to bed for tonight kinda wished to gotten past 43-56 but you barely beat it at that level with stronger ainz, shalltear, albedo and talene

so kinda rough for me to reproduce the rng since im missing just slightly 5-10% dmg

and with the skriath im like missing 2% dmg and in atleast that one case where i looked it was enough but not enough for oku

tmrw will be another day ig

[ebon sand]

seems like you have a working formation already, only need a bit more oomph

[pine sable]

ig mortas as a counter doesnt work at that deficit?

[pine sable]

ggs, love the first comp perma cc-ing at the end lol

[timid briar]

ggs

[ebon sand]

Thanks!! 👍

[inland flame]

Anyone know what’s the lost sigils

[oblique trellis]

What are your favorite wombo combos in companions?