companions-chat

[weary dove]

No everyone gets 1000 shells

It's wording is very poor so it read as if everyone would get the oath as a reward lol

[oblique trellis]

are you sure its this one you used? coz theres no wording error there if its just shells, thats a pure scam
its supposed to give someone an oath

[weary dove]

It gave me the oath and I can't do anything with it

[oblique trellis]

have you looked in storage, can i see

[oblique trellis]

could you click :p

[timid briar]

you can click on some one profil or your in expedition

and use it

[oblique trellis]

thats what i was thinking

[weary dove]

I will give it a try

That did not work

[maiden hare]

I believe the player that you want to give it to needed to buy the oath at the beginning

but it's 100% possible that this item just doesn't work

[timber cipher]

thats what I'm thinking

[ebon sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APgYWH3t8Mo

[molten quail]

Yeah I think that is the reg oath bond, I might buy it too for the gems and essence you get from wish summons

[weary dove]

Let me know what happens @molten quail

[molten quail]

Im pretty sure you need 2 to gift it

If you only have one you keep it and it wont let you gift it

[weary dove]

Yes I have 2 but it can't be sent

Did you buy the pack? @molten quail

[molten quail]

No not yet I will later

Thats werid

But im sure it says serves proof of oath bond

Meaning it should act like one

But idk why u cant gift

Maybe when its during the ending stages

You can

Or lilith just cooked us

Might be during the last day where you can use oath bond to get gems it will let you, just my guess

[weary dove]

Or it could be used as a oath bond for the next expedition instead of having to pay 5k gems?

[molten quail]

Maybe

Do you have 2?

A oath bond and certificate?

[weary dove]

Yup

[molten quail]

Ok ill deposit some cash later on and buy it

[past swallow]

New hero is graveborn called Odin

[past swallow]

I know I should save all my diamonds and scrolls for the next dim collab but idk if i have the patience

[molten quail]

@weary dove I just bought it

I didnt get the oath follower thing next to my name tho

Hopefully I can still claim the rewards

Or im just gonna find someone to trade it with lol

I hope I didnt just scam myself

[maiden hare]

well over 5 people said in the messages above that this item is probably bugged right now and doesnt work

[maiden hare]

you might want to contact support in-game and write a ticket in the #bug-reports channel here

I also see a possibility that this item has a goofy translation and it just does something else...

[timid briar]

i love to see 3 top 1 in one league

[swift depot]

Oh mama!

[timid briar]

bro calm down

[swift depot]

If anything, Lilith at least still can cook some fine character designs

[timid briar]

not gonna see her in companion

[icy robin]

Whats the next banner hero

[timid briar]

oden

[hard minnow]

There is a lot of talk about new dim. Next 19 days ? Someone knows something ?

[ebon sand]

Just the latest text from Dolly on test says something like "they call themselves hunters, but there are few who can do what they do" or something like that

So it could be a Solo leveling collab or just about anything

[hard minnow]

Thenks a lot !

[ebon sand]

@timber cipher do you remember if passing f418 at the mauler tower was hard for you? I've been failing for a while it's making me nuts

[timber cipher]

it wasn't easy, couple of hours

was stuck on 418 before for 2 rotations

you have a couple of things in terms of rng

enemy Morrow (dying early - not hitting your Crassio)
enemy Vurk (being last enemy and a lot ccd)
ally aBrutus cc + dmg (doing cc against morrow side)
ally Crassio (surviving enemy morrow and vurk)
ally Kren stun (being asap chaining into aBrutus)

[ebon sand]

Nvm, complaining works, thanks for replying so soon 🙂

[timber cipher]

damn w/o crassio

[ebon sand]

Or the T1 I bought and used on ABrutus weapon did the trick Idk

I only had enough fodders to 1* it though

[timber cipher]

means lowest solutions could be really low - we're really unoptimized in that tower so far ^^

[ebon sand]

Been stuck on this floor for quite a while so I've been working on Crassio

[timber cipher]

but 419 seems impossible for me

[ebon sand]

Can't wait to have him at Si30

[timber cipher]

is a nice to have for sure - doing well in guild hunt and some dream realms

[ebon sand]

If it weren't for fucking Scarlet....

Yeah I've struggled for many hours with my si20 cracra on stages ppl used him for

Do you feel like sharing what you've had the most success with at 419 ? With my RC lvl that could maybe be ok

The enemy's Numisu goes hard

This one's gonna be "fun"

[timber cipher]

tbf aside from aBrutus and very bottom down slot

(5th hero) - they all seem to expload

so I've been trying my +30 skraith in there with sinceh e outdamages my crassio by quite a bit

but even that is not close to the solution

i use aBrutus as 2nd frontliner but skregg somehow feels wrong against tidus

kinda looks like this

i think i was trying without crassio and with salaki in before

but still that wasnt working

yea that seems to be the closest i get to winning

vurk and lyca deadtho but that numisu spam is rough

could try something other than skregg tbf since he doesnt do much

but i have nothing that survies enemy tidus

like not even putting crassio there changes much he tanks like 20m more and deals 20m more dmg but skriath cast gets more inconsistent

[ebon sand]

Sorry I didn't look at your replies yet I was trying my own way

And it worked

It's rare that this pet works for me, he's my best mauler pet at a7 but usually he never allows me to win anything

Your Skriath is really insane though

Damn, I just beat 2 more floors back to back in auto-battle

Party's over though, there's a Cecilia at floor 422

Eh at least I'm stuck at the same floor as LB

[ebon sand]

Or not

Hmm, maybe there's hope for Scarlet...

[brave plaza]

@ebon sand is Berikel 😂😂😂

[ebon sand]

So I just beat n°1 in pvp, much bigger whale than I am and as soon as I swapped Gwyn out for Scarlet, I won

[ebon sand]

Yup /wave

if anyone's curious to see the fight

[brave plaza]

Wow nice

I created alt to test Scarlet early game and she spanks hard

[ebon sand]

yeah I'm not surprised, early game she must destroy squads

she hasn't won me a floor at the lb tower yet but her gear isn't 5* yet and she seems promising

[brave plaza]

I think she needs Raine

And once we get Palmer and/or Jerome she will be the best

How you towers look like?

[ebon sand]

besides Mira, my GBs sucks :/

[brave plaza]

We are locked

Cannot push too much with the levels and current heroes

[ebon sand]

worst thing is that I wish Oden will be an easy skip lol

[brave plaza]

They don't want to create a big gap in Companions like we are facing in Classic

He must be because Dims are coming

But Oden is hard to pass

[ebon sand]

unless he's reallyt earth shattering I think I'll skip

[brave plaza]

Yea skip him

[ebon sand]

too many of my chars need fodders like yesterday anyway

[brave plaza]

I only got Scarlet to a3

[ebon sand]

it's the reasonable thing to do

[brave plaza]

Nah she needs 5*

[ebon sand]

I had the worst luck since I play the game on scarlet's banner

[ebon sand]

Ye but i mean getting the last 4 through standard banner is alright too

[brave plaza]

Yes

[ebon sand]

if she needs another char we don't have yet to really shine

[brave plaza]

Getting them to M+ is the sweet spot

And building them up slowly

[ebon sand]

I kind of went guinea pig on her tbh

I wish Kasu was still whaling xD

[brave plaza]

Do you plan to get the oath package?

[ebon sand]

I don't think I will

[brave plaza]

And do you have the new beast ascended?

I want to see how their skills work

If we can reroll them

[ebon sand]

nope it's leg only, I haven't whaled for it

I just take a cheap offer every now and then, no rush, winning in expedition might give enough that it won't take years to get the pet ascended idk

[weary dove]

I have it at mythic atm and it's pretty good

[ebon sand]

I need one more copy for M I believe

[weary dove]

It has added around about 5-10m to my dr damage and guild hunt

Which is decent for us newbies

[ebon sand]

yeah I know it's great but if it's too successful we'll get a new pet every month

that would suck

[weary dove]

Sucks in campaign and tower lol

And not very good for pvp

I don't think it's good enough for how much it cost

You can get the ascended deer for like 100 bucks and it has overall more use

[brave plaza]

The only heroes worth the cost until today are Shall and Thrish

[weary dove]

Yeah Scarlett is decent but not worth it

[ebon sand]

I'm biased cuz I went for her but I suspect she'll be great someday

copium maybe xD

[weary dove]

I see a lot of potential for dream realm

Although my take is that of a little fish you guys are a lot stronger than me right now

[ebon sand]

I went for her cuz I thought she'd be a Belinda replacement out of the box but that's not the case at all so far me

[weary dove]

Different gravy up in the stars

[ebon sand]

maybe it's a case of finding her the right team Idk but so far she hasn't really impressed me

[weary dove]

Atleast she is better than lion girl imo

[ebon sand]

dam gurl! you look like u could befriend all the birds and squirrels around just whistling a tune!

we out here being nice

https://tenor.com/view/fede-vigevani-im-leaving-im-out-door-youtuber-gif-17268093

[brave plaza]

The ultimate Belinda

[ebon sand]

OOOhhh I just cleared a 5th mauler floor hehe

[weary dove]

When do you think they will bring out graveborn or light bearer awakened?

Holy heck floor 423 crazy

[brave plaza]

In 3-4 months

My guess

[ebon sand]

no clue about new awakens tbh

[silent ravine]

It was like 6 months from Brutus to talene

Iirc solise to talene was short as fuck tho

[weary dove]

That's a long wait, what content did they bring out in-between that 6 months

[brave plaza]

Old heroes

Every 2 weeks

[warm lagoon]

Well I can kind of understand why it takes them so long to bring out awoken heroes to companion they really don't make any money off of them like they do on classic

Because if you already have five ascended heroes from the faction that the awoken hero is released in you already have them basically

That being said I'm pretty sure the next one will probably be a hypo

Since that's the ones they can make money on

[ebon sand]

geeze, how high am I gonna get, 2 more floors

[warm lagoon]

438

And you can only climb 15 more floors today

[ebon sand]

nah, 426 maulers rn

oh got you

tired lol

[warm lagoon]

I don't know why my phone put the word she in that sentence when I said you my stupid phone does that sometimes sometimes it will put a he sometimes it will put a she I don't know why when I say you

[ebon sand]

I'd be happy to clear 20 floors but it'll never happen

[warm lagoon]

Do you ever change the hero's positions

[ebon sand]

yes ofc

I got 2 floors in a row while autobattling though

[warm lagoon]

Who is your five heroes you are using or are you having to use 10

[ebon sand]

but then there's always an annoying piece of shit like cecilia or whatever making you having to rethink everything

[warm lagoon]

On companions I really don't know when double teams hit

In other words do you have awoken burritos

[ebon sand]

I'll be the first one to complain about it if happens believe me xD

[warm lagoon]

On classic I think you hit double teams at 500 might be 600 I can't really remember it's been so long since I have been there I am on triple teams now

[ebon sand]

triple teams in faction towers?

[warm lagoon]

Yes

[ebon sand]

damn, then how many in the main one?

[warm lagoon]

There's triple awoken heroes so it's a piece of cake

[warm lagoon]

I believe it goes up to five I could be wrong I don't know I'm only at 3 right now

I don't push Tower

[ebon sand]

5 would make sense, like campaigns

[warm lagoon]

Main reason is I save it for when a awoken hero or a C/H that I really want comes out I can push Tower and get summons for them so it's kind of like a bank for me

[ebon sand]

rewards suck so much in here

10 red chests every blue moon tyvm

[warm lagoon]

They give out better rewards doing Tower than completing Tower if you understanding what I'm saying

Doing Tower you get stargazing cards completing Tower and the achievements kind of garbage

The rewards for doing tower on classic is garbage the reward you get for completing Tower achievements is a whole lot better

[weary dove]

Do you guys play classic as well?

[ebon sand]

some whales shared loot in my league chat in expedition

[warm lagoon]

Yes I have 14 accounts

[ebon sand]

there are 2 more I need to find

[weary dove]

What is classic like?

[weary dove]

I bought this pack to for testing purposes

I found out that it's not worth buying 🥸

[warm lagoon]

Building dimensionals is cheaper but building awoken heroes are more expensive

[weary dove]

My server have yet to see dimensional heroes

[ebon sand]

Glad I figured that out without buying it!

[warm lagoon]

How old is your server

[weary dove]

I think it's coming on 3 weeks?

Server 190

[warm lagoon]

You mean to tell me 10 servers have came out since then

[ebon sand]

one.more.floor

erf, it's an orthos one now

guess that'll be it for today then

[warm lagoon]

@ebon sand do you have awoken Brutus

[ebon sand]

he's the main reason why I'm pushing that far rn

[warm lagoon]

Try putting him in the middle in the back

[weary dove]

Is there a way to tell how old my account is? Lol that would tell me how old s190 is

[warm lagoon]

Kind of you can go to achievements and see how many days you've been on the game

[weary dove]

21 days

[warm lagoon]

It doesn't work if you have missed some days it can tell you roughly how many days you been on

[weary dove]

So yeah 3 weeks for s190

[warm lagoon]

@ebon sand who is your Mahler team

[ebon sand]

I'm trying things out, I think it'll take at least one more RC lvl though

but strongest team is ABrutus, Skreg, Crassio, Kren and Salaki

oder sometimes change but that's what's been working the best lately

I need burst for orthos

crassio not si30 yet

I have lil hope

and my kren is just a stun bot, he sucks gear wise and only 2*

[warm lagoon]

My team is Skriath, Antandra, ABrutus Crasio, Numisu

[ebon sand]

I use Skriath too as well as numisu sometimes

tidus has been helpful but gear is too weak

Skriath ends up sucking at tower dmg wise if not si30

but his CC ability can come in clutch sometimes

[warm lagoon]

Yeah you need to try Antandra instead of Skreg or Kren

[ebon sand]

Antandra isn't built, never put her in WL I think she sucks

[warm lagoon]

That's because you need Antandra to take up all the damage while he does his job

[dusky knot]

@ebon sand so, what use do you find from the new celes pet? Beside doing crazy dmg for a pet, is she good for certain formation, team?

[ebon sand]

the new pet? I haven't whaled on it

[warm lagoon]

If you think she suck you must think that awoken Brutus sucks

[ebon sand]

yeah maybe but my skriath sucks at Si20, I see, or used to see iperx one when he used it at some floors he was doing 5x the amount of dmg just because of Si30

[dusky knot]

Why? They are completely different?

Abrutus can take much more dmg as well as giving a def buff on his team

[ebon sand]

she never came to me as a staller, I've always taken her for a DPS that buffs crit but can't say I'm too familiar with her kit as I haven't built her up

[warm lagoon]

She can take as much damage as he can but granted she doesn't give the buff to the team except for she's taking all the damage from most of the enemy while your other heroes are able to do what they're supposed to do

On classic she has one goal and that is faction Tower

[ebon sand]

Ok, I exaggerated a bit with x5 but usually the difference is bigger

[warm lagoon]

@ebon sand if I asked you who do you have the gazelle follow would you know who I am talking about

Gazelle = Crassio

[ebon sand]

[dusky knot]

Atandra base on her kit seem like a tank roke to target the enemy highest attack while Abrutus is all rounder, she doesnt have any skill or passive to take all the dmg or protect her team, none

[warm lagoon]

Yeah but sometimes the kit doesn't show what they really can do

[ebon sand]

she's literally the lowest ranked hero overall

[warm lagoon]

I'm just saying a lot of people slept on her on classic as well and then I just told them how good she was on classic and people started trying her out and they fell in love with her because her kit doesn't do her justice

[ebon sand]

I'll trust you on that

[dusky knot]

It is more because, First she target the high attack enemy, making her the closest target for them to deal dmg, so sometime look like she take all the dmg

But classic and companion are also different

[ebon sand]

but she's just 1* anyway rn

[dusky knot]

So dont be disappointed

[warm lagoon]

She can never disappoint me

A lot of times she's my last hero standing

Do I always win the battle no but she's still the last hero standing for my team

Should I blame her hell no

She's doing her job she's still alive the rest of the dudes aren't doing their job

[ebon sand]

look at that nightmare

[warm lagoon]

It would be an even bigger nightmare if Gwyneth was on that team

[ebon sand]

lucius buffing orthos buffed by the girl, hasted by lyca and also protected by hendricks

yeah or cecilia but shit has to be clearable too lol

[warm lagoon]

I would be more scared if Gwyneth was on that team instead of Lyca

[ebon sand]

for sure

or scarlet

[warm lagoon]

Well I say Gwyneth because her dad is on that thing and he will protect her

That's something that's not in his kit but it happens every time in battle if you pay a tension

In other words every time Hendrix is on the battlefield with his daughter Gwyneth he will automatically protect her but it doesn't say that anywhere in his kit or I should say it used to not they might have put it in there now

[ebon sand]

yeah the gwyn team with her dad, isabella, numisu and either rowan or estrilda is a staple I've over used

I can only kill lyca so far

[weary dove]

What are you guys talking about? Do certain characters perform better with their friends or something? 😅

[warm lagoon]

Yes

[weary dove]

This is interesting, how do I know who works with who?

[warm lagoon]

Some heroes will say it outright in their kit and some heroes will just do it on the battlefield and never say it anywhere in their kit

[warm lagoon]

You just have to test them out

[weary dove]

When you say kit are you talking about their story?

[warm lagoon]

No when I say kit I mean their abilities and stuff

[weary dove]

Oh I see, I will start reading that stuff now

Thanks for the info

[warm lagoon]

You're welcome but don't always just go by what their kit says they do because sometimes they will do other stuff that the kit doesn't say they do because it's lost in translation

The kit gives you a hint of what they do you have to test them out physically and see if they do what the kit says they do

[weary dove]

Ok I will keep that in mind 🫡

[dusky knot]

Wait until the update the gonna neft bot celes

[ebon sand]

yeah, I switched back to LB till reset or I go to sleep

but there's a nara and without a cheat death she's a pita

cheat death or trish

I finally beat one and who comes a knocking?

fuck this guy lol

still a loss but damn impressive nonetheless

Oh, I beat it!!!!!! Scarlet Goated

[weary dove]

Nice, Scarlett is looking more and more worth the money 😂

[ebon sand]

yeah it seems that way

one thing I've noticed though, it's either her or gwyn in the team

both of them at the same time and they both perform really bad

shit it's reset time I had good hope of beating another floor :/

[stuck sonnet]

are there any new promo codes?

[dusky knot]

I mean they have the same role so that makes sense

Both dmg dealer

[swift depot]

DPS is the role that suffers the biggest powercreep, supports still fit into the teams when you change the shieniest dps

[ebon sand]

That shit's kinda funny, when told about gifts shared in league chat I was wondering why there were screens upon screens upon screens of that emote being spammed, turns out when you take the gift a bugged icon appears with a chest and a downward facing arrow on top of it, so everybody clicks it but it just makes that emoticon

[molten quail]

The certificate is used to sign someone up the next enrollment is what they told me

[swift depot]

the emoticon shows when you clsim the gift no?

[lusty plank]

I thought u were in league 12 with me

[swift depot]

nope, server 10 fellas are in RoadToHeaven

[molten kraken]

A win is a win tbh expedition is gonna be boring for many as T1&Allies and RoadtoHeaven are gonna dominate but all I care is for the rewards ESPECIALLY that frame 🤪🤪

Until Lilith make it to where you can’t leave I’ll make sure I keep getting those rewards

One way or another

So for those in region 4 you might wanna stick to either RoadtoHeaven or T1&allies

[timber cipher]

double wish is possible

ooof

a3 pet 70m dmg in a lose lmao

kt 625

[twin marsh]

Just got this ad, it’s a sign

HxH collab trust me

[vapid lava]

The required upgrade materials are criminal

[timber cipher]

we had real afk frieren ad - but collab was either stopped or didnt happen at all and it was a bait ad

[timber cipher]

fr - upgrade materials are the one part

but also the pet upgrading paths are criminal like "shortcutting" for that thingy is expensive af

[twin marsh]

Thats an actual game for hxh

Maybe they’ve been trying to make some money with the ip

[timber cipher]

yea get that its not an afk ad

and could obv be next collab based on the hunter/adventurer theme thingy or what it was

[twin marsh]

Would be so peak 🥹

[timber cipher]

will be intresting to see - but tbf building out scarlett has also a bit of prio atm and these heroes then again would need to be really good

will be intresting to see the first flop - because some did flop in afk classic

even more intresting would be to know what happens with the f2ps that have 15 or 30 out of 60 arthur shards 💀

[twin marsh]

I still gotta finish my Laios and my Albedo

So I’ll pull either way

But do you think Scarlett is that important?

[timber cipher]

very much so

[twin marsh]

[timber cipher]

as i said i think she is on pair with trishea

[vapid lava]

Arthur will be back in some random ass event

[timber cipher]

and she will enable rowan in lightbearer comps making lb comps way better again

[vapid lava]

Why not use Gwyneth?

[timber cipher]

the longer the battle, the better she is

gwyneth only outpaces her if you need something done quick

[vapid lava]

^^

Ah

[timber cipher]

i mean gwyneth will be better for some cases but with gwyneth you mostly have to use hendrik for survivability, numisu for attackspeed and are forced to pair her with rosaline because otherwise she's useless

so you are already almost in a forced 4 sometimey you can use estrilda/arthur/hendrik in front

but you cant use rowan, which is one of the best utility supports like that

[twin marsh]

Doesn’t scarlett need rosa too?

[vapid lava]

Are you using Scarlett outside of lightbearer faction and guild hunt? Does she just have a solid spot in all your lightbearer comps?

[timber cipher]

does make her better yes - since you want her ulting at a5

but rowan and estrilda energy gain are sometimes enough so t hat you can fit other cheesy stuff in for cc, haste or utility (f.e. raine/mehira/if necessary salaki)

[timber cipher]

not yet, but i will def build another comp arround her since gwyneth is just to weak imo

[twin marsh]

Don’t you think trish is miles ahead in gamemodes other than bosses?

[timber cipher]

like you have plenty of answers

trishea outpaces gwyneth
no chance against dimensionals, espacially shalltear
no chance against mira fear
aBrutus / mauler invade - destroys her
placing a nara or athalia on her spot even at epic - destroys the comp most of the time

[timber cipher]

depends on the level deficit - the higher the deficit the more trishea begins to struggle since she cant reliable burst through

and at that point other heroes are shining very well - f.e. ainz stun and %dmg is huge in that case

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and personally i think scarlett is miles ahead in a lot of cases - for sure not as good in pvp as a trishea and wilders are

but f.e. if you have estrilda hendrik rowan scarlett and the hendrik protects scarlett and scarlett casts - there is a high chance for scarlett to win on the spot

scarlett does need a5 and +30

but she will be one of the most broken chars that we have - better than many others

[vapid lava]

I guess I'm excited to see her get limit tested then. I would agree with your Gwyneth thoughts not too sure about Trish

[timber cipher]

trishea is as good because there is great utility arround her, you use aSolise - lots of heals

you use nevanthi - lots of utility cc and heals

you use tasi - lots of utility cc
or mishka - lots of cc/damage amp

and you use lyca with haste/damage amp

so the whole kit arround it is perfect

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If it continues as it is we'll get great supports for lb that will just increase the value of scarlett and she'll be necessary for a long time - we also do not have a lb woke yet and so on

[vapid lava]

I heard the lb will be A Thane

[timber cipher]

is probable - but we just got aBrutus, our wokes still dont have full ability kits and so on - so lets see how it goes

can only say that you wont go wrong with scarlett aslong as she doesnt get nerfed, which is unlikely

yom build her, was underwhelmed and is now f.e. getting the hang of her and excited

y0m is at peak push in campaign and towers

and is using scarlett > gwyneth

which is no surprise for me

obv there will be cases where gwyneth will be better - but as said thats only if you need to burst and can burst specific units down

-> higher deficit = less likely to burst kill units = more consistent dps is better

[twin marsh]

I mean, Jerome and Palmer will probably take a while to come to companions. Until then she’ll already be in normal summons for everyone

And even then, both Jerome and Palmer are more boss oriented supports. We don’t really have many boss relevant gamemodes so far

[timber cipher]

is a fine point to make - but if i had to choose between +30 gwyneth or +30 scarlett I'd spent it on scarlett

gwyn is better as lower investment and if i didnt want to do any of them and had other prios like

aSolise, Trishea, aBrutus or good dimensionals to finish obviousdly do them first

but scarlett will be relevant and give also people the edge to be in top 10 in dreams, increase guild hunt score and if they do more modes in the future it will be necessary

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gwyneth investment wont change much in pvp because most of the times it is can i get through their trishea/aSolise, can I get through their aBrutus, can I get through their dimensionals, can i get through their mira/graveborns?

and then last / least useful pvp comp atm is about gwyneth

[twin marsh]

Yeah I definitely agree

[timber cipher]

guild treasure hunt 💀

[floral perch]

hmm so the new pet is stronger than any unit that is not s-tier? XD

[magic tree]

Nice

[glass sun]

Nice

[magic tree]

Rewards are fire. Just a pity that it requires such amount of attention to secure it

[ebon sand]

Care to share how to? Please

[timber cipher]

in terms of pvp/arena (same level combat) even stronger than s-tier units since it isn't even maxed and statwise its not close to max either in terms of upgrades

[timber cipher]

defensively just making a team with like thoran, talene, shalltear, flora and probably desira/salaki/ezizh(if build) will be a pain in the butt because the pet does all the damage and the teams stalls you out

[ebon sand]

Slowly making progress figuring out that stage, now to be able to beat the rest without those top3 DPS will be another story

Wouldn't it be awesome if someone dedicated with the great Excel skills necessary could cook us some interactive cheat sheet to help theorycrafting formations for pushing based on what's already been beaten

I don't have the skills to do that but I'd definitely help with providing screenshots if someone wanted to give it a try

[timber cipher]

I mean most of the times its just aligning comps based on enemies and trying to counter kits or specific problematic units

Think its hard to visualize all relations / counters and keep it updated with new releases and such

-> but it'd would be great to have, for sure

and i think there are little people uptop on campaign/tower that do care about that because most people that can afford to push usally have the time and retry known solutions till it works

(not that its wrong, becase in that itself you can lower the score or sometimes adjust units to find better solution - which in turn will make the next person align it and it will slowly get better and better until you're at a near perfect solution)

f.e. ZephyrFalcon, Skylan and Horang outskill me by far in terms of theoriecrafting and winning solutions

so it'd also need to be from people who know their stuff

[timid briar]

skylan is still playing ?

[timber cipher]

not sure but im below his solutions - im atm at 43-40

[timid briar]

because he his on my region and i don't see him in arena anymore

[timber cipher]

would be sadge

[timid briar]

i think i just check

7 day afk

[timber cipher]

o7

[timid briar]

o7

one more down

[timber cipher]

tough grinds, the hottest/biggest flames burn out the quickest or something like that

[timid briar]

maybe

[ebon sand]

o7

It's summer time though, maybe holidays

[timid briar]

i hope because he disapear 1 of july

[timber cipher]

grace didnt return

[timid briar]

skylan is different

[timber cipher]

luceus only wrote once a couple of days ago and was gone for a month aswell

[ebon sand]

I get anxious just looking at this shit, this stage is completely busted

[timber cipher]

[timber cipher]

thoran, crassio, cecillia go brrrrr

[ebon sand]

I've made my own solutions many times before when I was pushing without Arthur and even after when my cele were too weak to copy

[timber cipher]

kinda would love to have a reunion of the community but can understand that ppl move on with their lifes

[ebon sand]

But this one -_- one hard squad isn't an issue but 3 tough as hells ones back to back is nuts

[timber cipher]

yea because we're not close to optimal - before "high deficit" was 60 lvl

new heroes, maxing stuff slowly and finding better comps and we're doing 90 level-ish deficits

[timber cipher]

on high deficit every tasi, thane, lyca, cele/hypo kinda bites your butt lol

[ebon sand]

Yeah but Thane+Cecilia+Crassio and the impossible healer is insane

[timber cipher]

aaaa we'll manage through somehow

my f2p has weirdly good cele/hypo luck

[ebon sand]

That's very decent indeed

[timber cipher]

still no aBrutus buut slowly building lucretia and getting there

[broken glade]

lucretia is bait tbh

[timber cipher]

lowest combat score solution in ch43

[timber cipher]

not great for much aside from campaign tho yea, but in a a server with only laios/marcielle as dims - i think she'll be quite good to have

gwyneth in pvp btw

[timid briar]

bro

you don't know how to play of course gwyneth is losing against all the dim team

change her and place it on 1/2 and ban albedo should be over 50% win rate

now she just facing all ban team

that are just too good

or what ever dim you want to ban

you want weak team to fight other weak team and let the dim team fight what ever

[timber cipher]

having doubt - im facing people that have way stronger units than me with way more t1/t2s and +30s

gwyneth loses against trishea most of the time atm or graveborns

[timid briar]

don't place her in the midle

[timber cipher]

im not disclosing my bans but dimensionals are taking out by my mira comp or others beforehand

[timid briar]

trishea are moslicly to be in the middle so placing gwyneth middle is also instant lost

[timber cipher]

to show you what im dealing with lmao

[timid briar]

i have seen

just try put gwyneth not in the middle for next round and see

[timber cipher]

will try her on the side

[timid briar]

as same investement she should take wilder

(i know its not the same invest but you get me)

[timber cipher]

cleared the middle so trishea cant hit her - i get the idea behind that but ithink asolise/tasi/neva utility will be to tough

just to show you gwyneth almost never has to deal with dims

[maiden hare]

it's pure rng, but if you got her in that can't be placed against team and have shalltear there or something then the possibility to find enemy dims team without shalltear is low

[timid briar]

because gwyneth never win against shalter

[runic quail]

Hey there! 😁

New here, but been playing Companions for like 11 days and figured it'd be nice to get more perspective on it

[timid briar]

you can go on #companions-questions and see all the guide in pinned

[runic quail]

Sick! Thanks

[ebon sand]

Nice, I managed to beat squad one with a "cheaper" team

[timid briar]

a "cheaper"

[ebon sand]

yeah I know, still better luck at beating the rest without using shall/ainz right away

[magic tree]

New UI

[ebon sand]

I wish they could update chars like shemira

or give us an awaken version idk

it feels wrong that she's so useless now

[magic tree]

Can swap leagues from same UI now

[silent ravine]

Y’all aint getting ashem for another 2 years at minimum

[timid briar]

in test

[magic tree]

Yes, Tuesday here

[swift depot]

That's how classic folks felt about it even earlier than us

[lusty plank]

Lol did u know that an Aw version of Shem exists or did u randomly take a guess?

I’m asking since u said u never played classic

[ebon sand]

I thought I heard it before but wasn't 100% sure about it

but even if that didn't exist they could make it :>

[lusty plank]

You heard correctly hehe

She’s amazing

[ebon sand]

😱

well, I hope it won't take 2 years!

[lusty plank]

Me too….

Cause i’m not sure if companions will last that long 🤣

[silent ravine]

The undisputed best woke in the entire game not getting nerfed to the ground would break companions in half

[lusty plank]

Fs

Anyways we know they’re gonna drop some lame shit like AwEzizh on us in 6 months lol

And like 2 people will have him

While i’ve started seeing a decent amount of ppl with 5 ascended celestial

I’ve never seen someone with 5 hypos

Not even Tank

He had 2

[timid briar]

i have 1 ascended and 2 leg

[silent ravine]

Azizh isn’t actually bad

He’s just bad compared to the rest of the wokes

[lusty plank]

Ye ik

None of the wokes are bad

They’re in a league of their own

AwEzizh is just too expensive for most players to justify building and despite being a woke he’s really only good for the hypo tower

[silent ravine]

He does ok damage and has good cc

If he was normal 4f he would be a prio build

However he’s competing with ashem wath and the likes

[twin marsh]

The goat 🗣️

Fuck liberta

[silent ravine]

Lib aint even a woke

His dads gavus and Eugene are both wucius enablers and frauds otherwise

[inland flame]

Does someone knows who will be the 4 heroes in the next pulls?

[left charm]

The one after Scarlet is Oden

[icy robin]

Is the next collab black clover?

[swift depot]

We don't know yet, but the hint doesn't seem related to black clover at all

[lucid trellis]

I thought it the witcher collab

[swift depot]

Sounds likely

[ebon sand]

how many witcher chars are on classic? like Geralt and Yennefer? others? Ciri? Maybe they could do something like with Overlord and bring a brand new one that's on crack

[twin marsh]

No clue who this might be

Solo levelling?

[vapid lava]

A mysterious figure appeared in Esperia the other day! A collaboration may not be far off! #AFKArena #AFK

[vapid lava]

Can you send me just the text

[twin marsh]

I don’t have it, someone just sent this screenshot

[vapid lava]

All good

[molten quail]

Chat gpt said dante from devil may cry

[vapid lava]

Gemini said Lloyd Irving from Tales of Symphonia or Dante from Devil May Cry

[molten quail]

Idk if this is fan art

[vapid lava]

Surely

[molten quail]

Saw it someone here like a year ago

[vapid lava]

I would think fan art

But who knows

[molten quail]

Imma be broke is there any good packs for destiny summons

[broken glade]

to sum up what we got from this post
堪称爽番天花板 is basically saying like, "some might call it the peak of satisfying action power fantasy", approximately
逆袭之路" means like, a revenge/comeback story
two collab heroes not one

[lucid trellis]

Just geralt and yen

[twin marsh]

I have no clue

[vapid lava]

Yeah no good packs rn

According to one of the clues it's a brand new collaboration, so no Witcher

@ebon sand

[timber cipher]

unlocking hero and atleast 23 dim souls to max it - will not be cheap

but lets see how the kits are and newer server will def like some more dims

[vapid lava]

Yeah I have a s179 account who is gonna enjoy this

First dimensional there

Since it's companions I'd imagine the hero(s) will be good but it may be smart to wait a little

[timber cipher]

but there is so much even for newer accs to build - like

aSolise, Trishea, aBrutus - even my s1 57 has only 2x +30s because it takes 12 weeks to get 1 more +- event/towerstuff

[timber cipher]

o for sure atleast unlocking and collecting the 60 step dimsouls is smart even if the dims are ass

because its 60, 80 and then 100 in terms of milestone rewards

[vapid lava]

Yes yes

I only have 55k diamonds and 125 destiny scrolls saved right now but we still have time

[timber cipher]

yep - used a lot for scarlett aswell on my s157 so no regrets

on my main im stacked up with 200k diamonds and already 120 divines again

[vapid lava]

Is that enough for 2 dims? More like 300k diamonds no?

Ig the events themselves are also pretty generous

So maybe less

[timber cipher]

not at all

you get on avg one every 40-60 summons depending on luck my avg is morelikely arround 51-53

so you get one copy every 15k gems

and you need 23

so 345k for one hero-ish

if you're very lucky and take in milestone rewards and such - you're probably at 280k

[vapid lava]

Oh? I guess I'm completely off lol... that's alot more than I thought

[timber cipher]

yea divine scrolls / summons are brutal

[vapid lava]

Divine fodder

[timber cipher]

but the p2w options/bundles are usally quite nice and generous compared to a lot of other stuff in collabs

[vapid lava]

Well if a few dollars seem to magically disappear during the collab... oh well 🤷‍♂️

[timber cipher]

calc things through for yourself and do it as late as possible if you want to be smart about because sometimesyou could be baited into buying more

f.e. reaching next milestone
finishing a char
starting/finishing the next char

and so on, we humans are dumb and set us dumb goals

you can also look things up in the universal doc from sailus he lists bundles and lists their values compared to a good base (the climberpacks with 45k diamonds)

https://onedrive.live.com/personal/427b2828109cc35c/_layouts/15/Doc.aspx?sourcedoc={dd6509fa-c37d-49b8-bde3-ee3e0601a784}&action=default&redeem=aHR0cHM6Ly8xZHJ2Lm1zL3gvYy80MjdiMjgyODEwOWNjMzVjL0Vmb0paZDE5dzdoSnZlUHVQZ1lCcDRRQmN5d1lMT0tHTThhQUFNRDdFZUtMTVE_ZT1RY3FYZUU&slrid=7052b1a1-404a-d000-5dab-aaef6c448ce4&originalPath=aHR0cHM6Ly8xZHJ2Lm1zL3gvYy80MjdiMjgyODEwOWNjMzVjL0Vmb0paZDE5dzdoSnZlUHVQZ1lCcDRRQmN5d1lMT0tHTThhQUFNRDdFZUtMTVE_cnRpbWU9X3VRNlJPckIzVWc&CID=78e7335f-8acb-4230-af6c-1e3d1de35ca2&_SRM=0:G:34

[vapid lava]

I've checked this one out before, thanks.

Yeah we see the shiny new pack and just want to impulse buy so we convince ourselves it's a good idea regardless.

Then we get soo close and want to buy more yeah. Gotta watch out

[twin marsh]

I’ve got like 100k diamonds and 350 destiny summons

How far do you think I’d get?

[timber cipher]

is 680 summons

like if you have avg luck 680/50 = 13,6

• the milestonerewards

[twin marsh]

Let’s hope one of the dims is a safe skip then

[timber cipher]

idk how many they're but since 2 of them are 2x dim item chests

i believe like +4/+5 souls

you can only hope for better than avg luck and hope

if you do a 45 avg f.e. meaning like once or twice a double pull or just slightly more/earlier pulls then you're at 15,1 so hard to tell.

to max out you need 23

and 13,6-15,1 + 4/+5 souls are like 17,6 - 20,1 souls - so still 3 short from maxing out

like a2-a4ish

[dusk flint]

Enough copies for Rowan?

[twin marsh]

Oh hell nah

Didn’t remember it being that many 😭

[timber cipher]

you need 4 to asc, so yes you can a0 him

(2x e+)

[twin marsh]

At least we get those freebies too

[dusk flint]

Yh thanks

[twin marsh]

But if it ends up being hxh collab, I might spend a lil

[dusk flint]

I don’t think it’s the perfect meta but the game gave me that

[twin marsh]

Been f2p for too long now

[timber cipher]

yea because usally a normal char takes l+ fodder

but dims do not - so you need 24 (but its -1 since you have the base epic copy)

[molten quail]

Is it 1242 scrolls for 2 a5

[timber cipher]

w.e. floats your boat, i can only tell calculate things through to have no regrets because a lot of offers seem good, but are only ever so slightly good :/

this game is really good for f2ps in the case of endurance - because you just need to set boundries and keep on playing and you'll morelikely than not outlast whales and sooner or later be uptop in your local server and maybe sooner or later in your region aswell

[timber cipher]

1242 = 24,84

you can get one a5 with 23 copies

but 1242 has a lot of milestone rewards yo you probably have +10 souls from milestones aswell

math behind it is 1242/50 = 24,84

so its avgs arround to 24-25 copies (+10 from milestone) so you have 34-35 in total - which is unfortunately not 2x a5

since you need 46 for 2x a5

you can have better luck btw - avg 50 is a harsh/normal amount

i just take that harsh avg because it is the avg most people have in general with destiny summons

if you think you're luckier its like with the casiono - you'll end up with regrets ^^

[molten quail]

Alr thanks might whale both of them if they are op

[timber cipher]

Yea really depends on their kits, I kinda want to advance my dims to T1 or atleast prepare T2 or have some stocked up

like laios and albedo kinda deserve their T1
and having Shalltear T2 prepared would be nice for me at this point.

[twin marsh]

Yeah I get that. I stopped spending because there wasn’t really any incentive to do so. The most money I spent was to get Solise early on, and then Mira because I really liked her design. After that I didn’t really have any reason to spend anymore. No new content or game mode that motivated me to be competitive, and no new hero that really made me wanna spend. Celehypos could be nice, but I’m not willing to spend thousands on a single hero

[timber cipher]

like im a whale but even I stop after the last milestone - because overstepping milestone is a lose/lose

and that is what i was able to do so far

most whales arround me have way more in that case lmao

[timber cipher]

completly understandable - I budget my gaming spendings aswell

sometimes if a steamsale captivates me other stuff has to wait and sometimes if i want to spent more in here, i spent less on real games

[twin marsh]

I don’t see the point in transcending tbh. Especially for dims/celehypos, is the boost even worth it for how expensive it is?

[timber cipher]

if there is no incentive for me to spent on or if i do not want to game for a time - i just stock it up (which I already still do)

[timber cipher]

tbf. in most cases unnecessary but T3 is a really big boost

t1 and t2 are just a "nice to have" ++ it is also easier to advance everything with, since you do always need 25 heroes for the next level of trancension

it is not close in terms of value compared to SI

but % stacks up espacially with the base levels and so on

im also at the point where i started to get all t2 chests possible

and so on

before i ignored t2 because its just ever so slightly low increases, but it just adds up in the big picture

[grim yacht]

Whats the difference between companion and classic

[timber cipher]

complexity

[grim yacht]

Wot

[lusty plank]

Wait for it

[twin marsh]

Companions has no content, classic has too much content

[timber cipher]

on classic you have to catch up with a lot of hidden info that is shared in some guilds - 6 years of content and a lot of weird systems where you almost need a phd for

while companions is pretty vanilla so far and way less expensive

[lusty plank]

Huuuugee

[timber cipher]

on the long run both will be expensive as p2w tho

[grim yacht]

So if ur a new player what would u recommend

[timber cipher]

play both

[lusty plank]

Ngl guys I said I would quit once I get my first trans hero, but I kinda expected it to take until October 😅

[timber cipher]

and find out whether you like the game

[timber cipher]

strong start - on mishka which is very nice to have

[lusty plank]

Ty. So what’s the move now? Do I start aiming for trans heroes

My wishlist is gonna get confusing lol

[timber cipher]

like as a new player companions will be much simpler to understand and follow - guides are way easier you can check them out in the pins #companions-questions

but classic is way more in depth

[timber cipher]

really depends i kinda max out all the leftovers atm because i need to aim for 25 trans heroes

as you say kinda gets confusing espacially knowing that some trans heroes may not be the longest lasting heroes - so i try to get only the good ones

or adjust to like when i have 4-6 extra copies from like flipping tavern faction card

it is like do whatever you feel like would do good - i ended up with that so far and have f.e. 5x extra copies of shemira without ever having her in the wishlist after t1

[grim yacht]

How abt this one

[lusty plank]

Everything I have to ascend is either: a shit tier hero, banner hero or former banner hero so they’re hard to get E+ copies of, dims or obviously very p2w celehypos

[timber cipher]

that is #classic-chat

[lusty plank]

So I don’t know what I should do. I currently have Lyca in my wishlist cuz I finished Mishka

[grim yacht]

Oh mb mb

[timber cipher]

Yea, you just add up what you want to get or what you have in overflow to finish the trancension on

[grim yacht]

If u were in classic tho…

[lusty plank]

Yeah I get you. Was just confused since i’m kinda at my limits when it comes to my box rn

[timber cipher]

because you'll end up sometimes with random copies from stargazing or tavern flips yk

[lusty plank]

Everything left is money essentially

[timber cipher]

i was years ago - nostalgia made me play companions

i cant follow the new classic - it is over my brain capacity for a sidegrind - espacially with the really really good guides and contents apperently being hidden by guilds

[grim yacht]

I really still dont get it tho

Like does companion barely get any works?

Than classic? Or what

Cuz it felt like ur saying that classic has so many stuff that u cant handle it jo more

[timber cipher]

it gets way more content in terms of updates now - but it is very vanilla and has less content to do atm.

classic if just something that build-up over 6 years

but well tbf for the time both games do get "little updates" they made new videos for patches and so on and they're sometimes giving the community what they want

f.e. aBrutus after 3-4 months of spamming and asking - so its not like we're completly unheard

but p2w is in both games and a lot of people just "starve" in companions uptop atm

[lusty plank]

Classic is insane if u spend tbh, you would easily get the hang of it. My friend is on day 4 on a new server and he already surpassed rc lvl 300

All this at lvl 73 is insane

[grim yacht]

How do u reset ur character’s lvl

[timber cipher]

yea i get that but people are killing their budgets just to stay in the top 100 on competitive realms

in companions im doing fine compared to people that spent way more than me and dont have to force spent to be relevant in something atm

if it would get to competitive I'd probably burn out

becuase then its not about being smart and sharing whatever is good with the community

then it'll be keeping info hidden for an advantage and walletwarrioring through it

[maiden hare]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AFKArenaCompanions/comments/1ka4hba/dimensional_summons_simulator/
I also did a dims pull simulator that is pretty pretty accurate

[timber cipher]

very nice - doubt that many people will install python tho and run a script

but tbh nice feature

crazy that you even made the milestone check

[twin marsh]

How much has he spent?

[maiden hare]

yeah I had a little bit of headache with it but it works as intended, the only thing you need to take consideration. It always take the milestones in the calculations, so if you already pulled you need to type it in

that are the pulls you will need for x2 A5* dims

[timber cipher]

oh wait so 1200-1300 is already 46 @molten quail - mb

ty @maiden hare

[maiden hare]

Worst Case: 1580 pulls → 474000 Diamonds

it can get to ~1600 at the WORST case

you can't be over that

[twin marsh]

I’d kill myself if it got to 1600

[vague warren]

whats the difference between companions and classic guys

[timber cipher]

Yea am using 50 as avg a lot - because then I wont be sadge in most cases

[maiden hare]

that's like avg ~59 per copy and that's very unlikely

[maiden hare]

you need to take the x15 free copies from the milestones you get if you ever get to 1500 pulls

so the total you would need is only 31

[timber cipher]

i only accounted +10 at 1200 because i didnt knew the milestones and was making it up from my mind

[twin marsh]

Wait with all the milestones and freebies, how many pulls should it actually be?

[maiden hare]

ah yeah 😂

GUARANTEED_PULLS = sorted({60, 120, 180, 240, 300, 500, 580, 660, 740, 820, 1100, 1200, 1300, 1400, 1500})

that are the milestones

[timber cipher]

yep was glad to see them in your code

[maiden hare]

and we also get like ~4 free souls with events

this one is a more accurate histogramm with 1 Mil pulls not 100k but it doesn't change that much after 100k

and my CPU is not good enough for 10 Mil pulls simulations

[timber cipher]

is it multithreaded?

could run it for a bit on mine and just see xd

[maiden hare]

good question

[timber cipher]

because if the script isnt multithreaded then yea it will run for ages

your cpu isnt the problem

[maiden hare]

yeah it's not multi threaded, did it before I had my CPU classes, but well it can be changed

[timber cipher]

i will just chatgpt adjust it and run it for a bit

[timber cipher]

lmao

[timber cipher]

here are the results for 10mil pulls after 5min

weird spike at 1400

[vagrant forge]

Hello can someone send me an image for the wish list that I need

For this game

[timber cipher]

#companions-questions

[timber cipher]

@maiden hare in this SIM we're paying estimated 7109 - 8420 (on most likely case ~7767 gems) for each dim soul

which is tbh with the current value we're estimating dims with (15k) - pretty good

could obv be rare cases in which its worse

but still on avg not bad

[maiden hare]

yeah it's that low because of that milestone copies if you take that away it's way more

[timber cipher]

yea thats why i dont summon over 1800

like get me outta here after milestones

1700*

smart me even in april

^

Kasuuuuuuuuuuuu where is my Merlin its almost 3 months after and I haven't saved up for him

[maiden hare]

, well I'll also pull probably to ~1700 this time because I also need souls for arthur

@timber cipher do git pull, I pushed some changes

[timber cipher]

Yea, seeing the change with the from multiprocessessing import Pool, cpu_count ++ down below in the main function you're using them now 👌

[maiden hare]

now you also have a progress bar

[timber cipher]

need to install the tqdm module before

[broken glade]

wish dims worked like they did in classic

[timber cipher]

progressbar is looking like that in vscode for me, but still nice upgrade:

[maiden hare]

[maiden hare]

yeah would be a lot cheaper to get them

[timber cipher]

would be a bliss - but tbh. aside from arthur and new "highborn pet" the scam in companions isnt that bad

stargazers are a toughy for f2p - but since everyone has that struggle and they're not that impactful atm - it is tbh fine

highborn pet is big bs

arthur is big bs

[maiden hare]

but the problem is, that merlin/mulan and the other dims that will come out without a collab banner will just cost as much as arthur

[timber cipher]

and not because "arthur is that good" - because tbf arthur isnt even that great - but the way to receive him is bs

[timber cipher]

yea totally agreed that this would be a bummer if they do not fix stuff with more frequent / better event to gain him

or atleast something else like labyrinth

[timber cipher]

I'll send in a 100mil sim, am afk for a bit

but should be 1100-1300 for 46 souls

[timber cipher]

lmao my f2p got double crit, atk, health

what a pet

[timid briar]

noice

[vivid temple]

What the...

[timber cipher]

rare w

[pallid compass]

Hello

[timber cipher]

this pet

[pallid compass]

When will the next new server be launched!?

[timber cipher]

think every 2nd day on reset

[maiden hare]

the only "good" thing about this pet is, that it doesn't get you any deff buffs like deer and the atk buffs are mid

but I already see what the next one will do

[timber cipher]

like that pet p2ws some stages and it isnt even maxed

[maiden hare]

yeah but it's mainly dmg only, now imagine this was like deer v2

[timber cipher]

i swear if they release those thingies monthly for the "expiditions/golden frontiers" imma cry

[twin marsh]

That sounds really likely lmao

[timber cipher]

yea a new gen deer or haste engine like new gen owl would literally be gamebreaking

i think just dealing damage is already gamebreaking enough to spent on it

[lusty plank]

Scripted event one…also why did u put a fodder hero there 😭

[timber cipher]

yea kinda scared because this expidition gives buff based on your rank on the new pet

[maiden hare]

don't think they will release them that fast, I think it will be more like 2,5-3months

like awakened heroes in classic

[lusty plank]

This is like the seal in classic

Just if seal was a rolls royce

$$$

[timber cipher]

vroom vroom

[timber cipher]

i better hope so, like upgrading these shitters is even worse idk how i will ever max out their attributes because the cost is just getting way to high

[maiden hare]

haha

wtf

though it will be the same for every stat

[timber cipher]

like its yellow, after its legendary, the attribute will become mythic afterwards and needs another upgrade for asc

the attributes start on epic/purple btw

[maiden hare]

yeah I know but the 1st stat cost like 20/40/80/120

in spirit dew

[timber cipher]

they were cheap at first but for each attribute its increasingly higher cost

[timber cipher]

yep

100mil runs are soon done

true rngjesus

[maiden hare]

the f

[timber cipher]

interface in vscode bugs a bit when minimize and maximizing it

[maiden hare]

[maiden hare]

please save the screenshot and the terminal output after it's done

[timber cipher]

yep will do and post it

but shouldnt differ too much from 10m runs tbf

will prob still be arround 1100-1300ish

[maiden hare]

yeah even after 100k it's about the same

[vivid temple]

I didn t

[timber cipher]

will maybe add a trigger that asks for either dim soul summoning or a specific number of summons and run a 10m for 1700 summons

[maiden hare]

what do you mean with that?

[timber cipher]

like pulling 1700 summons with 2% odds and milestone - to see statisticly expected results from that

because some people maybe dont want to know how much do i need to pull for 23 dim souls

rather how much do i get for 650 summons

[maiden hare]

oh yeah didn't thought about it

[timid briar]

do you simulated based on last pull ?

[maiden hare]

yeah

but it was the same for ainz and delicious collab so I'm guessing they won't change that..

[timber cipher]

yea milestones didnt change so far

@maiden hare

full png

tho again weird spike at 1400

[maiden hare]

RIP for all those that will go all the way to that 1400 spike

[timber cipher]

ig its because gear?

but ig expected is more arround 1200-1300ish than 1100

that is good to know atleast

[high merlin]

Hey guys, Im a new player and i wanted to ask if its worth to pull for Scarlet or stick to the normal tavern pulls :) Would appreciate tips ^^

[timid briar]

normal

you should only go for special baner on dim if you are free to play

[high merlin]

Alright, thank you ^^

Is there some kind of cool website where I can find reward codes for the companion server?

[timber cipher]

i will send you the new added code @maiden hare

small 10mil test to see what 1700 summons will end us up with

never thought I'd be running a python random generator to simulate afk arena summons - but here we are

1700 pulls = avg 63
(including milestone rewards)

based on 10mil simulations

[weak blaze]

Am i missing something how can this be

Isnt Pity at 60

[timber cipher]

1700/60 = 28,33

but then you have milestones at 60, 120, 180, 240, 300, 500, 580, 660, 740, 820, 1100, 1200, 1300, 1400, 1500

so you have 28,33 + 15 in worst worst worst likely outcome meaning very worst min is like 43-44ish

[timber cipher]

ah with avg 63 is meant 63 dim souls as expected outcome

[timber cipher]

the complex part about this simulation is it uses the milestones from dimensional events

so you avg out way better in terms of pulls because of the guaranteed free pulls

---

we know that the expected result on avg is 50 divine scrolls with a 2% pull rate

[bright ivy]

new collaboration, anime - Hazurewaku no "Joutai Ijou Skill" de Saikyou ni Natta Ore ga Subete wo Juurin suru made

[timber cipher]

really?

would seem like a way to add broken chars

[bright ivy]

perhaps the main character will be control-based hero

[timber cipher]

i mean if they keep to the name and to the anime it sounds like a balance nightmare

thanks for the info

iirc it was like op kind of shit that he stunlocked enemies with status effects and poisoned them

like paralyze, sleep, poison and idk

[bright ivy]

yeeah

[timber cipher]

seems like a goated way to break the game

ig we have some cc immune chars so

[bright ivy]

only trishea😂

[timber cipher]

twins cleanse every status while ult (but idk hard to use)

nevanthi cleanses antiheal at some point

and some chars like shalltear cleanse themself too when dropping below %hp and such

[timber cipher]

but yea we only have a couple of chars that would be able to deal with that xD

salaki is also cc immune

but well a supp

[icy robin]

I saw an ad on tiktok where it looked like asta and it was posted like 2 days ago

[bright ivy]

it's just ad.

[twin marsh]

How do you know?

[bright ivy]

I googled the new phrase from chineese colab post

[warm lagoon]

Isn't that the weird anime where he's from the future he goes back in time and he can talk to a girl he likes in the future on his cell phone spoiler he finally goes back to the future and then decides to go back in the past with his girlfriend he likes in the features that's another spoiler he ends up with the girl he likes that he talks to on the cell phone

[twin marsh]

Does it have anything to do with hunters tho?

[warm lagoon]

Not that I can remember

[timber cipher]

yea they were reincarnated to be hunters for a goddess or something like that and he was like outcast

[timber cipher]

think you think of another one with that guy that gets a car, plane and ship later - no?

there was that one anime where the mc has like dualguns think you mean that one

[warm lagoon]

No

@timber cipher is it the one that you shared every one of the girls that he knows are considered like sisters to him but not really

[timber cipher]

this one was like outcast because goddess couldnt see his skills and he was like really bad/basic but could use his basespells on everything and got a lucky kill and overleveld himself or something like that in the hardest dungeon

and afterthat he went for the revenge plot or smth like that against the goddess but in the anime a lot of sidetrack happend

[twin marsh]

Sad

Still had hopes for hxh somehow

[timber cipher]

it ended with him sidetracking for the panther girl going to a place where the golden monsters are or something like that - where his old mates were trying to become heroes and level up - but the mobs were to hard and they ran away

and he grinded through to find a witch or something like that idk that well anymore

[timber cipher]

and he had like an elf companion that he found in another city and sidetracked with a lot

[warm lagoon]

Is it most of those girls his slaves though

[timber cipher]

they were not

but the panther girl and the other girl were slaves and he freed them from the arena or something like that

[warm lagoon]

Oh okay I don't think that's the new dimensionals

[timber cipher]

or well not that i can remember might be that they "freely" became their slaves

idk that anime to well is like 1 year old

[warm lagoon]

I remember bits and pieces of it I've seen it on YouTube in an animated recap but like I said I seriously doubt that's the new dimensionals

That being said I wouldn't mind having that elf girl as a dimensional but still

[timber cipher]

yea but tbf could fit

[warm lagoon]

I don't think they consider themselves hunters

[timber cipher]

yea it was rather reincarnated as "hero" - but not strong enough to be a hero but then revenge plot against goddess idk if you'd call that hunter-ish

like he was outcast in the worst dungeon by the goddess to die

[warm lagoon]

Yeah I don't think they going to dungeons and Hunt that often in the enemy

If you would consider that one I guess you could consider Dan machi

[timber cipher]

but o well will be intresting as always to see some new additions

[warm lagoon]

Bell could be considered a hunter

https://tenor.com/view/danmachi-anime-gif-19904122

@timber cipher it could be those two

[timber cipher]

i mean fair enough:

just recently it became playable in 2 games https://fictionalcrossover.fandom.com/wiki/DanMachi

and before that crossovers were in 2022

[warm lagoon]

Why do they call it DanMachi is it because the real title is too damn long

[timber cipher]

prob, more catchy

[warm lagoon]

I'm just glad it's not five nights at Freddy's, one piece or dragon Ball z,

I know none of them are considered hunters

Now if it said something about pirates it would definitely be a one piece

And the reason I say five nights at Freddy's somebody about 2 years back had a April fool's joke saying that five nights at Freddy's was going to do a collab with AFK arena

Does does monster Hunter have a MC

[timber cipher]

too big or weird ips that do not fit the style of the game wouldn't be lovely - i think some of the ips you named would be really hard to implement yea

[warm lagoon]

@timber cipher some people would say the same thing about persona 5

[timber cipher]

joker/queen def weren't that fitting themewise

[warm lagoon]

That's why their dimensionals they're from another dimension

@timber cipher I just looked up something on YouTube by saying they consider them self hunters guess what came up K-pop demon hunters

@timber cipher just thought of another one what about some people from Pokemon JK LOL 🤣😂😂😂 seriously I'm joking but they do hunt pokémon

Yeah that would fit in Ash with Pikachu and the previous dimensionals capture Pikachu and cooking him

[timber cipher]

pokemon would be the most cursed collab

[glass sun]

That’s a shit anime lol

[glass sun]

Yeah the actual name of the anime is too long

HxH or solo leveling would be more plausible imo if we’re talking about hunters

Then again new Korean animes call their “heroes” hunters

[glass sun]

How many episodes did u watch before u stopped?

[warm lagoon]

Me personally I don't think HxH characters fit AFK arena but like I said earlier neither did Queen and joker but I love both of them

[timber cipher]

idk think i watched quite the bit - something something golden stompede or forest - is 1 year ago so cant tell how far that is

[warm lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/osu-hunterxhunter-gon-killua-gif-2586923816632979189

[glass sun]

I have to agree with u here
Maybe hisoka, meruem & the old man probably

[warm lagoon]

But do we really want both of them in AFK arena

[glass sun]

I’d love it if they bring meruem

[warm lagoon]

It's probably going to be the people from fairy tail

[glass sun]

Nah they wouldn’t fit the game imo

[warm lagoon]

They already had a collab with journey so you figured they would bring them to arena

@glass sun what's the name of that anime that has a main MC where something over his eyes because he's too powerful

[glass sun]

If that’s true I’m less excited for them 😂

[warm lagoon]

I don't know the dude would be broken on arena

[glass sun]

Uhh.. nothing is popping up in my head

[warm lagoon]

He's got white hair wears a black mask takes it off has blue eyes

When he takes off the mask he's super overpowerful

[glass sun]

Ohhh Jujutsu kaisen

[warm lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/satoru-gojo---correndo-gif-3542481902885275990

Yeah that's him he could be the dude

[glass sun]

Yeah yeah

Gojo from Jujutsu kaisen

[warm lagoon]

Are they considered hunters

[tranquil crag]

Not really, more so sorcerers

[warm lagoon]

@glass sun okay okay okay okay you said in Korea they considered heroes as hunters

[glass sun]

Yeah they’re called Jujutsu sorcerers

[warm lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/saitama-one-punch-man-gif-16449862150109283583

He considers himself a hero / Hunter

[glass sun]

HAHAHHAA This would be sick but one punch man is from Japan

[warm lagoon]

Yeah but where's the game from

I'll talk about AFK arena

[glass sun]

I’m not sure
Did Korea make the game?

[warm lagoon]

I'm not sure either

@glass sun heck they might not have choose who they want as dimensionals yet they might just be reading all these messages in chat and find out which ones we want and which ones we don't want since they still got 2 weeks before they come to official

[glass sun]

That’s fair too
Do a quick survey before deciding hahahha

Aesthetics wise I think solo leveling has characters that could fit the game design

[warm lagoon]

Jin-woo Sung is who I want and his wife Shaw

[glass sun]

I was thinking more of ignis & or beru

[warm lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/solo-leveling-sung-jin-woo-igris-iron-baruka-gif-4263371205479189405

@glass sun you talking about that

[glass sun]

Yeah

[warm lagoon]

No it's going to be him and he's going to summon all of his minions and then his wife is definitely going to be the other hero if it would be them

[glass sun]

I don’t mind that either

[warm lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/solo-leveling-나-혼자만-레벨업-ore-dake-level-up-na-ken-cha-hae-in-cha-hae-in-gif-1989901838213801360

@glass sun I'm just saying there's never been a Duo without them having a man and a female

They have had two females

They have had single male characters but they have never had a duo with just two male characters

I would love a revisit of POP & assassin Creed and call it the Konami Duo

@glass sun but the more I think about it I think it's going to be a revisit of The Witcher 3

[vapid lava]

No way it's JJK based on the other clues. Nor Witcher

[warm lagoon]

Who

[vapid lava]

"This time, the collaboration character walks a rebellious path"

plus

"Wielding dual swords wrapped in flames"

[warm lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-scrappy-doo-jinkies-mystery-gang-shaggy-gif-8980388449419908664

That's who it's going to be right there

[warm lagoon]

Where'd you get all that at

[vapid lava]

Based from these ChatGPT and Gemini think Lloyd Irving from Tales of Symphonia or Dante from Devil May Cry. The first character apparently fits the description...

Although it does admit maybe JJK or Lambert from the Witcher 3

[vapid lava]

I got that screenshot from @twin marsh

They got it from someone else

There is also this but it kinda just states there will be a new collab

[warm lagoon]

@vapid lava you do realize that Shaw carries two swords that are on fire right

[vapid lava]

I'm sorry, Shaw is from Witcher 3 or?

[warm lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/kozuki-oden-haki-oden-one-piece-ryou-haki-gif-27411303

[warm lagoon]

Solo leveler

@vapid lava do you know who that's from

I have no clue what that's from it looks like one piece but I think that's the main character

[vapid lava]

Oh Chae? Doesn't she only use one sword not two? I read it a while back

[vapid lava]

That's Kozuki Oden from one piece, he's a side character in the Wano arc. Had to google it bc I recognized him but didn't know the name. His swords are covered in that universe's magic basically, not fire. Plus imo he's a pretty minor character.

[twin marsh]

Wild take

Netero would go so hard

[timber cipher]

@maiden hare 5 pull nuking is back

@ebon sand

[twin marsh]

Wtf is this beast

[past swallow]

Didn't the dollys corner or something hint that the collab would carry dual flame swords?

[timber cipher]

highborn bs p2w

you can "wish" summon it on avg every 30-40 pulls

9 copies = mythic
18 = asc

and every 9 more copies = a star

[vapid lava]

Celestwing is nuts

[ebon sand]

Gz for your clear with your busted pet :p

[timber cipher]

was thinking why the pet sometimes works and sometimes it doesnt, it needs the enemies to be stacked

[ebon sand]

thus skriath I guess

[timber cipher]

skriath eironn brr brr

atleast skriath but skriath eironn makes it easy with something like a brutus

[ebon sand]

I've beat the thane cecilia team and thought beating this one wouldn't be too hard but I'm stuck there, tried for 10+hrs last night :/

I've tried MANY variations of the gwyneth team but it doesn't work

[timber cipher]

think the anthandra melts the frontline

and all backliners deal tons of dmg in that formation, doesnt seem easy - like first you need to oneshot crassio

followed by somehow getting rid of anthandra and vurk

[ebon sand]

I only kill vurk and batface and the other 3 melt my team

[timber cipher]

its 102 lvl diff wtf

if you use scarlett/rowan you prob dont get her to survive?

[ebon sand]

I tried beating that one without mira but it doesn't work

[broken glade]

its a rly bad enemy comp for gwyn lol

they just dive her

[timber cipher]

i mean it'd be fine if its not 102 lvl diff

you usally use on 80 lvl diff gwyn to beat those teams

[ebon sand]

too many eggs in the same basket I know but I don't know how to do it with less top tier dps

[timber cipher]

scarlett/rowan are not an option with some kind of disruption on the crassio?

[ebon sand]

I've tried scarlet as well with rowan and sonja but it was worse

[timber cipher]

because if u get scarlett rowan and estrilda as engines

it'd seem to be more consistent imo

but idk at that level diff they might just melt your frontline to fast for scarlett to cast through ig

[ebon sand]

if I put her in bottom backrow she ults once and kills vurk and batface but then gets killed, never got her to ult twice

[timber cipher]

does hendrik protect her?

[ebon sand]

he doesn't really have the time to

[timber cipher]

mhm

if he melts hard yea

[ebon sand]

I tried with arthur instead of hendrick and with both arthur and hendrick as well

[timber cipher]

bc i think on paper it'd be something like

Scarlett
Hendrik/Arthur
Rowan
Estrilda
Rosa/Numisu/Salaki/maybe even cc like nara/athalia

[ebon sand]

and I need enough juice for the last squad, I've tried manually repeating the fight here quite a bit and with various formations it only lead to solise doing 220+m dmg before dying and it doesn't even make a dent in the enemy squad

[timber cipher]

because if u use nara you might cc after vurk kill if nara survives

[timber cipher]

yea talene and desira juice enemies up with health and dodge

grezhul gives mr
and hodgkin gives them temp 35 haste aswell as 30% atk and def

like that team probably needs antiheal pet or something agbainst their abyssmal healing

102 lvl diff, increased mr from grezhul, increased dodge from desira, very much healing, increased stats and haste from hodgkin

idk my man

probably needs lucky tasi banish/sleep into critluck on aSolise to burst through desira/hodgkin into clearing it with 2nd cast

with another crit

[ebon sand]

yeah I know I'll have to go back to the drawing board, with that lvl deficit I realistically can't beat 5 teams with my current box

I think I'd need one or two built celehypos

[timber cipher]

tbf i only find the oku to be lacking in the last team

if you have a good pippa and can f.e. use tasi front and pippa back and have multisleep from tasi and pippa it'd be probably even better - but your frontline could be lacking and they might push through even as heal comp

[ebon sand]

that team is weird, if I put tasi in anywhere I lose almost immediately, if I replace her with anyone, misha and oku actually do quite ok for a few sec then it implodes

[timber cipher]

i think pippa 5s immunity could be the answer

but might be wrong

because im not dealing with 102 lvl diff

[ebon sand]

yeah pippa is pretty good but I think mine is too weak for that deficit but tbh I think I need to beat squad 2 with orthos without trish/mira

[timber cipher]

might be - lucretia could become a good asset for you to push higher deficits tbh, every other cele/hypo is probably pretty irrelevant aside from aTalene for you at this point

[ebon sand]

I was thinking to keep going with celes, getting flora ascended first then twins then alternate between the 2 of them after each ascension to get more * on ATalene

But that is quite the long term plan as I'm completely out of SGs after finishing Athalia

I have big hopes for the next patch and the nerf to CPU celehypos

[maiden hare]

😂😂😂

[timber cipher]

oof yea that still quite abit im finishing my talene and then prob will wait for another good cele or at some point just say duck it and go for the flora

forkedfate...

holy shit i found something

let me cook

this pet lmao

was 43-14 (ff)

[pine sable]

the damage is absurd wtf

[timber cipher]

not maxed and a4/a5 are huge increases

[pine sable]

how many copies do u need for one star?

3?

[timber cipher]

9

[pine sable]

u need a mythic to upgrade it?

[timber cipher]

yep