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Whoever they say to build in 3 days or so
I don't need to be in the top guild I just need to be in a guild that is level 8
Just look for a random one, s35 is old now
Actually all I need to know is if there is dimensional gear in the guild shop
No
Lol
Then don't worry about it
You can stay teamless if that's what u wanted to know
Gotta whale for that dim gear lol
I'll just stay in my guild and keep building it up until they decide to put it in the guild store
Dim gear will be on the banners and celestial isles
I don't see it coming to guild shop
Yeah on my main account on classic I've already got dimensional gear for the two new dimensionals and then some
I do or companions won't go anywhere
If they keep putting dimensional stuff behind a paywall on companions then they might as well give it up
My shalltear has a full dim gear set and you can get that f2p during the event period
How much scrolls for Both when regarding optimal invest only
They'll provide dimensional gear at the same time they release dimensionals
There's no real paywall there
There is a bit of a paywall but it's actually easier to gear up dims than 4f
Because you get guaranteed gear choice chests
For 4f the f2ps can only get factional mythic weapons with their limited resources
But dimensionals you can get 4 gear chests easily from the banner
So for this event you could go weapon and helm for Marcille and weapon armor for laios
I've got a piece of free 4F mythic it gear
Scratch that I've got a bunch of free mythic gear
Right but in the guild store you'll switch to buying t1 stones
Yeah I don't have that unlocked yet I don't even have it where I could use that yet anyhow
Right but I'm saying that because you are so limited on currency the optimal thing is to get the 4f weapon only and then t1 it
And hopefully randomly get the other mythic factional gear from afk rewards
Can anybody tell me what the point of Forked Fate it's for
Dimensional gear is just given to you
The afk income provides dust and you sometimes get rewards like emblems for clearing
Well with the first three dimensions I got four pieces of gear with the second dimensional came out I didn't get any and I don't know how much I'm going to get for these two
If it's like overlord the banner milestone will have gear choice chests
And instead of a full set for one hero I'd do a half set for both
Since the weapon is the best thing anyway
I still need some gear for Ainz
that 3rd set of gear was locked behind like 1400 pulls 
I'm not particularly concerned about fully gearing my dimensionals
When I pull 4f gear that I can't use anywhere else I'll give that to them
And over time they might eventually have a dud dimensional event
Where I can at least grab the gear and spirits
I think the best thing that companions does different compared to classic is their pet system
Is it? I've heard it's bad
Even compared to classic
Combining pets sure feels terrible here
No I have a completely ascended owl on companions my pets are at the most 13
the pet system is a toss up
both versions have a shitty system i dont know why they are selling ghoulish gallery runs as pet baits
for companion
its not like people can afford to go 2 years with no event resources on companion to grab pet bait either
@eternal drum @gloomy comet I guess the thing that people like on classic is once you get five pets at level 18 all the rest of your pets will be level 18
7 pets
But getting five pets to level 18 is a pain in the ass
i need another 40 spices to get 4 pets from 12 15 15 15 to 18
Every week I see a post of someone having a complete dud from combining ascended pets here
which is like another 10,000 bait probably
It takes so long to get an ascended pet too
i should have had r18 a long time ago i just never get the stuff
The pet system on companions reminds me a lot of the pet system on E7
keeping a 100% efficiency level hasnt been worth it i can't rank anywhere anyway
almost spent my whole first year not buying the daily time summon lol
maybe did
and then some
basically -1 awakened
My issue with the companions system is that I can just straight up waste resources on a bad merge
There rng on tavern pulls but once you invest in the heroes there's no rng
You're guaranteed to progress their stats
Yeah that's one thing they need to add is a lock where you can lock the pet you want to keep
It's tough deciding whether I want to change a green ball into a deer or if I want to use two deer
Feels like a scam when you chance the 50/50 and lose
If I'm not mistaken I think the pit you are always keep will be on the left side
the whole game was designed as a scam from the ground up
There's no guarantee the new pet will have +1 effects
Definitely did not happen with me. It's a 50/50
Okay I've only been able to do it twice so far in both times I have kept a pet on the left
Nice
And then lose a pet anyway because they have the same number of effects as before
its still a shitty scam system, 4 skill deer with 4 skill deer = 4 skill deer, with not the best skills, and now you have one less deer to copy formations that use multiple
Not if you use two matching pets with different abilities
No you aren't guaranteed to have an additional ability
You'll see posts on the reddit of people getting scammed
Oh okay I get it so the system is a lot like The walking Dead game and I'm not talking about The walking Dead all stars I'm talking about the stupid Town builder one
This is the best pet I have
Who knows. Lilith loves obfuscating the rng to hide how much of a scam it is
Nice owl
Thank you
they should have just left pets out and put literal casino minigame that never pays out just lets you keep swiping
I fed two brown fur balls together and then I fed one of those brown fur balls to my owl
like 8,000 points for a single pet in the shop at 40 points for losing 2 ascended pets in fusion
just make it a fucking casino slot machine room
See that's the point I don't get they're trying to say companions is more free to play friendly
They come up with very creative ways to tell us to go pound sand
Me personally I still think classic is more free to play friendly than companions
I think it has been okay minus Arthur and minus the cross server arena
Arena was fine on my server until we paired with tanks server who has the furthest progress in the game across all servers despite being in the 100s
Mmr system when
Yeah thank God there's no guild war
Even if there was a proper cross server system it's still going to be messed up so long as they have these times exclusive meta defining collab characters
It'd just be unfair if the game did pair a non shalltear player with a shalltear player
Which it thankfully doesn't do
Well on classic you don't have to really worry about the collab units
We will see if it also takes 12 months for companions to get the garrison
I still don't see companions getting Garrison
@eternal drum I can't remember but is there a such thing as lab coins on companions
No
Labyrinth is still "under development"
I wonder how many servers will die before it comes out
This is one of the reasons why I believe comp is an unlabeled beta
They just claim it's released so people feel safe spending money
So right now they have Challenger coins hero coins and guild coins right
I think for them to open up a Garrison they would have to have a labyrinth
When Arthur came out we assumed it was meant to work alongside the lab
Because it was completely unreasonable otherwise
Man I hope this is enough to get 1 copy of marcille
But no word on lab at all
But knowing my luck it's still unlikely
Pity is 60 for a spirit
Dude they're going to give you at least one copy of both dimensionals
You get the epic copy for free
@floral perch that's if they still do like the overlord release you just get to choose which one you want and then you have to login to get another chest
skin
Tavern as in the second tab on the tavern
Or yeah the skin
Dolly becomes Marcille
@floral perch yeah they're going to give you a free skin for Dolly
It only lasts for 30 days though
I don't know if it was like $5 I wouldn't mind buying one if I get to keep it
I sure as hell wouldn't spend $5 to rent it for 30 days
Nah renting is crazy
Nobody should have to pay to rent something in a gacha
It's already scummy enough
$5 a month of rent.. did not know afk arena is opening a cheap OF
Where did you get that from
wait they make you pay for dolly collab skin?
No
Just jesting on what you guys talked about
@eternal drum I can't remember how did you get the vampire girl from overlord skin for Dolly
Login event
Didn't you have to wait to the third day to get it
Yeah something like that
At least that was 60 days I hope they give it to us quicker this time
I think the skin was the thing where you did your dailies and that gave you the pen to color the mosaic
And partway through you got the skin
Oh I thought it had to do with the login where on the first day you got a chest with all three dimensionals you get to choose which one you want and on the third day you get the skin but I could be wrong
There were two dailies for the event. It was definitely one of them
Not really much of a difference between how you filled them though
Man the animation on both dim kinda sux tho
But it is sort of weird having two login things for one event
@eternal drum most of the time what happens is somebody downloads AFK arena thinking it is classic and it ends up being companions
Still prefer the tank/ support
Day 4 before skin
The request to be earlier has not been granted
Oh and we do get both
One at start and one at end
Pet summon exp thing end after you catch 230 of the same type
so you can cap pet level 
cap seems to be around lvl25
I'm to lazy to do the math for that 
but soft-cap is around lv20
guess I can post it here too
also I don't think the will increase the event-time for another 30 days this time tbh
summoning is a lot different then in classic. We get a 2 week banner for every hero they release so 28days is "normal" last time we had x3 and it was their/our 1st time dims-summon so no one knew what to expect
idc what they want, I'm saying they should
I'm just saying why they won't 
not if people don't do anything about it

I didn't even considered that because I stopped being delusional that lilith will change brother
but well I'm not saying that we shouldn't try 
I'm gonna support you but I'm not gonna start anything myself 
last time they did and we didn't even do anything
well you got a point 
but well they changed that before we even got loud that we only got 1 month for x3 heroes so it was probably a mistake or a marketing "trick" to begin with
tomorrow
:<
I didn’t remember dims being this expensive 
they are about ~20/30% cheaper then was I posted
like I said I didn't considered the free spirits we get in DS for summoning
I'm doing the math with 50 DS per copy, it's probably more like ~40 per copy
if we got every souls after 60 summons I would consider it but we get x6 for x60 then 120 pulls nothing then every x80 x6 times then 180 pulls nothing then x100 x6 times, maybe I'll do it later, no motivation to look for a formula for it now 
U already have this?
Test server
Ah kk
What's better classic or companion?
Im salivating at the thought of my dim team
If i use one of the characters on crystal in ascension do i get the resources back?
Are there any working gift codes besides that?
Only in companions we get free dims?
Is it a good time to start a new companions run today?
@timber cipher the sad thing is
We got the dr boss that doesn't let u ult
So I can't even test the dr team till the next one

https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1301259004407971840 check pins on this channel
But not as clearly as the other Dims in that pic.


wait i thought they are not released yet before reset?
U can see them in the gallery
ah ok
she can revive herself at 5 stars you know
But the health is too low, maybe 1/4
hey not sure if I'm wrong, but 3 familiars from Marcille Skill 4 ... are affected by her rewrite effect? Tested her in Arena of trials
she's not getting mana back
so it's not rewrite

so it's either just a similar effect or it's straight up bugged
Ik
She also had a dmg buff
But it got cut
I think I know what's happening
if I'm right this is legit dumb

pls write ur theory
in both of these, heroes are only lvl240
meaning that they have skill upgrades still locked...
It's 360 

can I katsos you now? 
Why is yours diff?
older heroes have it at 240
he;s in classic?
it didn't really matter for the 5 man fight
since we can't see shit
but the one against the 3 hypo dudes I think she's not lvl 360
240 there iirc
idk can't see actual levels
but that explains why they look like they have rewrite but not give arcana
it's such a dumb way to showcase
so marcille is usable without laios
Okay you triggered something in me and I wasted 2 hours of my life 
Here you have a Simulation for 100.000 Pulls for the dims including pity, 2% chance to get a hero and the souls we get for pulling
Yes 
Here for one hero without buying $10 deals:

a chart with how many Scrolls you need for a A5* hero and a Histogram data from 100.000 pulls
If it takes me 660 pulls I’m killing myself

12.000 from 100.000 did it in over 660 so that's not that unpossible

my "lucky", "unlucky" etc. are just based on the spikes not %
So unlucky it is 660 scrolls for A5 new dimensional ?
If you buy the basic packs

So 633 for f2p?
My man
yeah with average luck
Yeah…
And for the other dude it looks like a big healing boost
It ain’t looking good for me 
Which SI30 is priority for new dims or are neither worth it
Sadly laios
Is it worth prioritizing Arthur over these two
His +30 doesn’t look like much, no?
It's his sig 20
That I mainly say him
That yeah
Over marci
But overall marci for +30
Marci>arthur ?
We don’t know yet
Fair
@quick hinge will tell us soon tho 

I'll try to a5 both
Idk if I can sig 30 the other though
Get to work 
I'll have to buy more red chest
On break atm
I don't mind Raine and kren sig 30
There's definitely better sig 30s 
I mean true but I like testing new heroes
Of course if it wasn't for you we wouldn't of figured out they wernt amazing 
I don't think anyone except you built kren

Maybe the other people that test 
We need to find other people who built kren if anyone did 
Think Korean did
Atleast you wernt the only one then 

D2
Show me your hero box

7 nev copies
By the time I unlock transcendents I'll be dead
I didn't have anything to buy when her destiny summon came out


I was broke
Couldn't abuse Brocken Trish

Theft 
Think we get spire today
As well
Could be wrong
Or it was the team up thing
Wait lemme check
Spire and conquest
But they're the 26th and 27th
Both 
4days time
Oh we can finally see the events?
You mean the dungeon visitor one?
Mhm
Yeah I'm assuming it's when they did matinence, they made so you could see it same with the portraits
U gonna duo with koki?
For what? Conquest
Mhm

I assumed he'd be with dandy
I've gotta bribe him?
Hmm then I could just leech off him

I'll see if bribes work

I love u goku aBrutus for suuuurrrr2eeee
I want a Lightbringer 😄
@quick hinge
We are perxsitting now
Your turn to be babysat 
anyone here from T1 & Allies?
Yes
T1 and allies?
Pribbbb
a league in golden frontier
Ahh I see
Prob z1 nwhira a bnnd a3 audreeee
will the golden frontier continue after this?
would love to stick around with the same team 😄
I pplokvev zu
huh
He's drunk a little bit 
I'm not sure
If I had to guess it'll end
thats sad
.immer finre
its fun, they should continue it
U need a dc invite?

Kasu now it's ur time to perxsit you can get revenge 

yess
One sec
Dm
Can someone take iperx home
He's on the way home now
He's taking a tram
I think he's a little more then drunk
Idk if he will make it to his front door
Hopefully 😭
Anyone know where Grace is?
guess that one could be helpful
Which Dom i wanted to dfocuz
those are the number for a f2p player, I don't want to see anyone with worst case scenario 
this is BS look at the new one
For both?
yeah but now I see that the worst case is some BS so don't mind that
average is 
both on a5*
Time to pity every spirit
even if you pity every time you should be around 2k, not 3k
I love afk
Lol
What would the dim team look like
Excluding King Arthur
Ainz albedo shalltear talene + new dim hero?
Should've released the dwarf as a healer who cooks food for your team
Maybe Talene could slot in nicely
That's not a dim team then
Does this take into account the free dim souls the give on the track like they did for overlord?
yes but I had some logical mistakes there wait, just fixed it but somehow I started the test with 10mil runs and now I need to wait a bit 
Any intel regarding new dims?
Hey small doubt
Is getting one copy Enough for the about to be released character ?
Or how many should I get ???
okay those are 100% correct now 
1mil pulls simulation on 43 Dims-Souls = x2 heroes to A5* for f2p
well 1 probably won't be enough but we still don't know yet, they will come out tomorrow
Well two hours more to get released
oh yeah it good pretty late 
when wll dijmmsrelease
they should release at reset i think
so 2hrs 30minutes
im sound mind if i know dungen mesh release
i need help
kasu and d2
thats prob a bitg of money butdo i special offr evrything?
or do i sleep?
wa
wait
i will just drink 2l of water

i think you should probably make the decision when youre more sober lol
why t f is it only 23:40
i 6thhought itg was late night
i qwill sober up
i have toast
i have watert
i jst bneed to lay down a bit and hear some video or watcch some weird video
Wait is it 43 spirits for a single A5?
nah it's 20 for the 1st one and 23 for the second one
because we get 3 free spirits and 2 hero chest
Ahhh
My follow up question was gonna be: why is the number odd
But that answers that
1 hero unlock free + 23 dim souls
24 in totlaaaaaaa
Yup, got it
Also, yall reckon it’s better to do one hero first and then the other
Or both simultaneously
Why on earth would you wanna put all 5 dims together
Bc why not?
People do it on classic aswell
how many hours before dungeon meshi drops?
There’s a little more dims in classic than here
Hmm can I not add raine to my wishlist yet?
Or does she become available a bit after?
That’s cuz dims are ass on classic
They need albedo boost to function
At reset idk
Ah ok.

Believe it or not, Rem falls off later on, shuna doesn’t 
whos the better dimensional
Laios is tank
Marcille is dps yes?
Thereforr marcille first?
Bro, it's not even been 10 minutes
yea but im sure people have anylized the skills a lot beforehand
did Kasu maxed them already?
hmm idk i like survivablity a lot
U better wait 2 days before ask
theres lots of whales thatll max either one
Im gonna up marcille to ascended first because i need a dps,i can save for 7 days laios
update us how good she is lol
Yeah but they need compare and anylized
Not instant bro
Maxing doesn't mean insta tested
Got them both, now time to wait for Kasu
If u f2p or small spander like me better be patient
Dont worry they will share
The event not 1 day its 20 day
💀
I was boutta ask same thing

@swift depot hey man who is better? 🤣🤣
I'm looking for your counsel Sir
i mean with shalltear is was clear she was way better than the other pretty instantly so who knows
maybe itll be the same


lmaoo
Go Marci and blame kot later

Thats a good move 
Can i say this
I tried marcille mythic and...
I think she need laios
Only one of either of them is a little bit lacking
Yeah the nerfed marcille needs laios
Who do i go for first
probably laios
Laois fits in more comps
Wow Laios is really good, I chose him instead of macille (since we gonna get her anyway in 3rd day) but laios heal is so big and spammable and he has nonstop taunt
Disclaimer
Laios alone is only lacking
confirmation im full sending lasios thanks
He just be tanking but not damage
😑 both of them are nerfed so much. the only buff I can see is Laois SI30 from per 1s to .5s
in classic both can 2v5
here cant
I think they kinda nerf both of them to the point they need eachother
Who's better between Laios and Marcille?

I spent around 50k Dias and only got 8 😦
Show Laois skill
Depend if you need tank or dps first
I... don't know
I wanna see how obliterated is he
I got 14 spirit for 250 scroll

This is my box
Hmm
Wasted my scroll on Raine 💀
Have you tried em yet
Now time to sig 30 laios 
Idk im kinda suggestin to pull for both


I see
Ascended both of them
Idk who should got the star tho
Imo if you have to pick and you don’t have Shalltear go marcille
I will use my diamond on last day
If you have Shalltear get Laois
But she is like ainz,you need a tank
Oh wait I forgot you guys don’t have good 4f heroes yet

Well she should pretty much instantly murder everyone
I can only rely on my sonya for this
Even though she got severely kneecapped from classic

Can i ask whats that mean?
220 pull and i got marcile to mythic+
And i lucky or not?
Kinda disappointed with Laios ult animation... I expected him to go on all four and bark instead of standing and some big doggo head appear behind him.
Nerfed 
I’m tempted to just finish Albedo A5
Same,i expect him to goes four leg and bark

250 i got asended
Can i ask,Is Marcille nerfed on classic or companion
Is it usually better to go get one to A1/3+ or both to mythic in terms of dimensionals?
Companions
They always nerf here, cuz the powercreep is insane
Pretty sure any remotely good hero will get kneecapped
Just so they can artificially keep the power level low
Is it worth building these heros?
Yeah absolutely
yes
🥸 Whose the better one to focus?
Anyone got a clue on this? Maybe also from older collabs?
I think mythic first
Then A3 unless one unit is insanely better
I see, thx:P
Me?


Goddamn i see what you mean
They nerf marcille stat
What should i upgrade?
Wtf, I did 890 and got way less
Get better rng 
Fuc
I did 800 for 25 spirits 😂🤣
Rip
Only like $500 worth of draws for one 5*
Yeah the only pro is i didnt spend any money for it
Thats the only reason i dont care TOO much
Does marcille replenish her arcane or she lost it in the middle of battle?
Same for my 890
Omg
The only way marcille can replenish arcane is by eating laios food😭
I am only at 115 scrolls should I summon it or nah


Ainz is now useless to me
Is lyca still being used in Trish
stupix question but dont we use currencies on these dimensional heros? am I saving for nothing? lol
Spend everything for this including ur soul
Hello, Laois or maliicie please ?
What to do? Is the two better than Arthur?

@quick hinge
I got 4 in 230


Is marcille a dead character if you can't put her on team with laios
I mean where am I supposed to use the currencies on them? lol or you mean the summons?
guys Lois or marcille please ?
Destiny summon
I think that's worse rng then me
Unless ur not including the guaranteed ones you get
For certain amount of pulls
But guild coins and other stuff are useless in companions for them?
L
Kasumi master
LAOIS OR MARCILLE GUYS
Who should I invest in first?
Take a chill pill Mr angry pants
Laios if f2p
Kasu how nerfed is laios
Mf idk 
🥸yes master
I don't play classic anymore
Send skills 
u took time to answer me nice, then answer the question
I need to compare
We don't know? The characters came out a hour ago they'll have to be tested first lol, the general consensus is that you should go laios and then marci
thanks
1020 pull, 22 spirits (already minus free stuff), 46 scrolls on average. moderately lucky then

I only got 110 scrolls should I spend it? lol
you should only do it if you can reach the 420 milestone
Yeah he’s not that nerfed
They just removed his 60 dodge from dreaf
And lowered his attack multis
He’s so much more flexible
Kasuuuuu
Ok thanks, just one more thing, ive been saving my guild and arena coins but it seems to be useless in companions for dimensional? can I just burn it?
arena coins are meant for Stargazing cards and mythic chest emblem.
Ok ty
Since u have both what do u think should be upgraded?
Laios
Roger
5 star? Then work on Arthur or marcille?
Hmm
Probably not a whole lot, but that’s sober me lol
This weekend rolls around who knows lol
Do laios then marci then Arthur
All 5 stars first?
She's strong against laios

Sure
Kk
What! U mean marceline?
Laios if f2p
Iam sure i can got A5
What if I’m but a tiny baby dolphin?

still laios?
Kasu
Im gonna get both
A1 laios and M marci or A5 laios @quick hinge
Only lvl 300 
Master I lack exp
Do both 
Its hard for a f2p
How many of these spirtis you need to a5?
24
Is it 24 or 23
Just get enough for marcille cheat death then all in on Laois
Thats a5 marci
I’ll go to classic and wait 6 months to get 9f lol
Dang that’s the best part of her kit
which is more worth ascending of both?
More detail?
Example A1 laios A5 marci?
If you want more details then wait for more testing I say
Mhm
Kasu?
Yeah iam still wait to still not choose
Is it bad i decided to go Marci?
?
Laios
And make her SI20?
Nop

Will favor a3
I mean Laois is more f2p friendly
My question is if marci without laois how she regen arcana?
You’re able to get a 30% flat DMG buff against heroes caught in his ult
At a3
The effect for a5 is just okay, increases his survivability
It’s 6% per second
He’s absurdly tanky
True
But I’m talking ab the analysis
6 stacks and per stack of analysis your heroes deal 5% more damage to enemies that have been analysed
Is Laios just campaign orthros?
Wait lemme check
Whats mean?
Lol
Someone that doesn’t die
Thats good
is the new collab hero broken?
Why not scroll around the chat before asking the same question everyone else has for the past hour
hehe
Yep
Couldn't agree more

Having to consider Arthur too is making this choice annoying 
I missed out on Arthur 😔
same
@quick hinge Master should I take the opportunity to max albedo?
I uh… May have made the mistake of A5-ing Albedo before Shalltear
I don't have the money to start testing these at ascended but Marcille at one copy is just constantly popping ult
This almost feels bugged

I was hoping they’d bring back the Re: Zero heroes
Yes master
Give us your thoughts 
Help
U tell Merlin to come out and I'll build him
Marci trying her best ❤️🙏
Which new hero is better ?
I like them
Anybody know
Whichever one is cuter
Waifu/husbando tier list
See I made that mistake and now I have A5 Albedo and only A1 Shalltear
So now I get my butt kicked in arena
😭
Should've invested in the chair
.................
Kasu. Is day 1
🤦♂️

Tank will be tank
I’ve been saving up since the last event and only hit 700 summons 
Yeah but at least the new area doesn't lock you out of a chest if you kill everyone

Kasu u make me goosebumps
That was fun
Bro wt...
How many until trans 3 now

Iirc correctly didn he have 5* wukong on d1?
Think he's 5 or so off
dang
💀
I’ve got exactly 23 souls and now I don’t know what to do with them

Oh yeah hopefully my alt gets better then
Kasu
58pulls a spirit
How’s ur luck in pulls
The heck
Yep
Just delete your account
I got 4 in 250 pulls
Not including guarantees

I got 12 in 700pulls
Metas lucks a bit worse

Maybe meta gets lucky soon tho
I got 19 or 20 in 840?
Maybe….
Without the guarantees??
Yeah