companions-chat

[gloomy comet]

reds, destiny scrolls for the dim spirits we'll probably never see again because, charge for stargaze cards instead

[shut lake]

This event seems to be a real rip-off

[gloomy comet]

its just one big fuck you give me money

[shut lake]

Yeah 😐

[gloomy comet]

i forget which angry joe review that was

[gloomy comet]

90 emblems for 10 reds no way f2p getting more than 40 red chests

you can extrapolate the rest of the event from there

[remote canopy]

around 60 red chest f2p

[gloomy comet]

i'm workin here

[verbal forge]

60 thats trash

should be at least 90

[remote canopy]

I mean

what is it compared to the previous events

[gloomy comet]

havent even been paying attention to previous exchanges

[verbal forge]

usualy is 90-100

[gloomy comet]

100 a month does sound right and realistically we only get one event a month

[verbal forge]

i have just 3 +30

[broken glade]

we also can get them from floors

[verbal forge]

and im close to another 4

[gloomy comet]

100 is too high and there is shops

so idk

80-90 i guess monthly event

[verbal forge]

no its not too high

in clasic is 160-200

this should be at least half of that

[gloomy comet]

yeah but we're in bizarro world here

[verbal forge]

once you reach 360 here

you are fucked in terms of progresion

you reach a point where you cant push towers

same for forked

[gloomy comet]

they looking at how to screw us in every other way so when they make the next 4f woke require 5 transcended heroes to unlock it seems like a good deal

[verbal forge]

so you are stuck in terms of emblems

gold emblems are even more big of a problem

[broken glade]

imagine shitting on classic for p2w

[remote canopy]

we're at like 160 red chest a month from shops alone

[verbal forge]

those are not free

you use curency to get them

its not the same thing

[broken glade]

well arena store is free

[gloomy comet]

weekly red shops zero out your stargaze income too

[remote canopy]

just like for pretty much everything else?

[hollow flume]

👀

I have to buy sg cards

[broken glade]

same

[gloomy comet]

lets face it we're all doomed

roll credits

try again in afk 2

[verbal forge]

lab needs to come for more rewards

or another way to get some shit

cuz right now the level up is fucked compared to clasic

i think once you reach 360 it takes like a year for 30-40 levels

[remote canopy]

we really should have gotten an awakened instead

and lab + arthur in the nex big update

[gloomy comet]

tellin ya they going to rug pull awakened and make it require transcendance

[remote canopy]

ok

[gloomy comet]

maybe not for ezizh

but after that

[verbal forge]

i care more about more ways to get xp then a aw hero at this moment

[broken glade]

but maybe correct way to play companions is to just ignore celepogeans

[gloomy comet]

it will have been to long for them to not change it by then imo

[broken glade]

and just go full emblems from arena store

[gloomy comet]

if we were getting another free 4f....yeah

[verbal forge]

you get another 4f but you wont do shit with him if you are level capped

[remote canopy]

they need to update the afk rewards

some chap straight up don't increase anything

that's BS

[gloomy comet]

slot in one of our 3 pvp teams and do nothing for anyones ability to push actual gameplay

campaign is every 2 chapters one thing updates, gold and exp like classic did, then only dust for fate

exp needs a big leap each chapter tho for sure

[verbal forge]

even spenders are hard to push to 41

with 370+

[remote canopy]

even if they just halved the increase to split it into two chapters it would have been better

than having empty chapter increases

[gloomy comet]

lore accurate reward system- what do you get for playing? absolutely nothing

[winged leaf]

ty for guide

[gloomy comet]

maybe they want to kill both versions so they can focus everything on journey

[broken glade]

journey is dying as well lmao

[gloomy comet]

i would say it doesn't make sense for them to go from overlord collab to this, but remember, overlord collab only lasted...7-9 days

[broken glade]

this isnt a collab though

[gloomy comet]

they wanted fomo money, and all of it

now we have arthur with more fomo money

[broken glade]

and arthur is skippable tbh

[gloomy comet]

and idk if people can be as upset over arthur to get a change lol

[winged leaf]

True

[gloomy comet]

i hear they're bungling that game too but idk how bad

[sonic isle]

For fomo to work you need everyone to be able to get a certain amount of Arthur, so the whales need to spend to get the better Arthur

[gloomy comet]

i couldn't take it after their first season

[sonic isle]

This is just... nothing

Guess we're summoning Kren

[remote canopy]

7-9???

[broken glade]

lasted like 2 months lol

[gloomy comet]

only after some amount of backlash did companion collab timeline match classic timeline, the collab was only 7-9 days

[remote canopy]

"this event is a scam"

[remote canopy]

it never was 7 to 9

it started at 30

[gloomy comet]

maybe 14

[remote canopy]

30

[gloomy comet]

really a month? that sounds too long lol

[dusty olive]

Which 1 is the next step

[remote canopy]

and that extension was likely just a stunt to look good

[dusty olive]

Im guessing priest dude

[remote canopy]

it probably always was meant to be 60 days

[sonic isle]

That collab was extended cos it was making them absolute bank

[remote canopy]

khazard

[dusty olive]

Who’s that

[remote canopy]

ice dude

[dusty olive]

Alr

Then Prost

Priest

[gloomy comet]

i guess either one my headcanon is they made it last a typical destiny summon

[dusty olive]

Imagine they do a bluelock collab

[remote canopy]

L

[dusty olive]

Lol

[gloomy comet]

at least one person putting the message out there

[broken glade]

they should do solo leveling or shangri-la frontier colalb

[dusty olive]

De

That would be fire

“ arise “

[gloomy comet]

nvm im blind

[remote canopy]

yeah was about to ask

[gloomy comet]

i scrolled and saw nothing but the other guy into february

must have doubled past the first video

anyway locking it in, next 4f woke requires transcendant unlock, at bare minimum itll up the cost to previous woke at 5*, not sure how many months from that i am still away

once it moves from wilders who have had exclusivity on faction scroll usage, 💀

[pine sable]

path towards shemira, eluard and khazard, only defeat khazard and path towards final boss, wait for the horn of victory to defeat shemira and eluard after, get the sanctuaries and defeat final boss, you can also brute force shemira and eluard if ur guild is strong enough

[hollow flume]

[shut lake]

😢

[ebon sand]

Faith in drop restored

[timber cipher]

lol, hope its not too bad

[woven fog]

Can we f2p for 1 copy of arthur?

[slow umbra]

Do my eyes deceive me

Or are the 30 dim spirits I have saved gonna be entirely useless unless I purchase this handsome fella

[ebon sand]

Wow, even if the next Dim came from a modern anime success like Solo Leveling or whatever, those prices would be absurd

But here they recycle content and want a premium for it?

I guess it's alright, I'll build another char instead

[coarse crane]

game uses the same 2 day drop from classic i think

which means it can be abused

[maiden hare]

It was one month and they extended it to two month

[maiden hare]

Yeah you need to spend only a small amount of ~$100+ to obtain arthur (including the stuff you get f2p)

[magic tree]

That's not accurate

F2P you are expected to obtain around 600 stones from what we know right now

1000 stones left

[maiden hare]

Oh perfect only $300

[magic tree]

125€ pacj is 320 keys, so another 550

[dapper trout]

wow 300 dollars, im very willing to pay that for a mobile game

[maiden hare]

Well I didn’t calculated it at all because I don’t care anymore

[magic tree]

So need 2x125€ packs and a few more

For a useless E

[maiden hare]

Just thought they gonna make him $100 like classic dims but they never stop to surprise me

Almost $300 for a useless Arthur copy mmmh

[magic tree]

I was expecting similar...100€ to make it up to A5

Which would be enticing for many players

Instead they take full r route

[maiden hare]

I want to said it now, everyone that buys him is a brainless monkey and toxic to companions community, I don’t care if you got tons of money and don’t care about it. That’s the same as taking back shots from some old geezers

[magic tree]

Imagine paying that. 2 weeks later new event going in

[magic tree]

+1

[dapper trout]

yay i love dropping cash like that biweekly /sarc

[maiden hare]

I’m gonna hate every person I see with that stupid hero

[pulsar sonnet]

🫡

[magic tree]

I think that's the most stupid thing Ive ever seen

And the arena rework was already 37 IQ

I only need Krein now saying he finds it to be cool lol

[pulsar sonnet]

It's ok, besides the sniping issue on last minutes

[maiden hare]

Nah he means that new kraken dimensional arthur

[pulsar sonnet]

I read all about it, they are braindead with this event

[maiden hare]

🙏

[pulsar sonnet]

No F. Way I pay 300$ for a copy

[magic tree]

I was left speechless yesterday after arena reset

Swapping to test to check new event, with hope and excitement

Dude, the moment I saw thr drops and the prices

How can any nornal person gome put with such a moronic idea

[pulsar sonnet]

Same today morning,when I read what you post in #bug-reports

[magic tree]

I bet

Some guy earlier read it

And he was like... woooooow classic people is so mad

I tell him. Dude that's us, companions

Lol, he died inside then

In fact I do even feel bad for those spenders who made their Dims up to trascendent

They could literally level Arthur up to A5 with ease

Not even that for them

[pulsar sonnet]

For sure we see few krakens who buy him day 1 😉

[magic tree]

It is difficult to make angry and unpleassed both F2P and P2W, but they are excelling at achieving it last weeks

Maybe, but this one hero is the biggest paywall so far in game for 1 single hero

[maiden hare]

This dude cost almost as much as a fucking high dragon born

Think about it

[pulsar sonnet]

True, very badly designed event

[magic tree]

Just compare it with previous event

Multiple free copies

Affordable with diamonds

Avg price of 18€ per copy puechasing with RM

Making it nearly x20 the price seems to be "super logical"

And the 1st copies were 6€ .... vs nearly 300. Clap Clap Clap

[pulsar sonnet]

I think when it goes live,and people see it. Most just pass this event at all

[magic tree]

Pass of course

The problem is, how many spenders will quit ??

[broken glade]

wait until they buff transcendent soon

[magic tree]

Not happening

Fake news

[broken glade]

thats what they did in journey

buffed them like crazy in pvp

[slow umbra]

I think good rework for arena would be similar to how they do guild treasure scramble. Points a few times a day; total wins

[magic tree]

What I can foresee is...

[slow umbra]

Kinda criminal

[magic tree]

Arena swapped to 2 teams on Tuesday

As ninja patch

[slow umbra]

That they fk over EU

[slow umbra]

Oh I thought it was three

Only two?

Bless

[magic tree]

Test server started with 1 on arena rework

Next day ninja patched with no notice to 2 vs 2

Live launched at 1 vs 1

[slow umbra]

👀

[magic tree]

Continue like this

[slow umbra]

What happens at 1 team win 1 team loss

[magic tree]

Last patch on test server changed it to 3 vs 3, with again no mention to it on patch notes

[pulsar sonnet]

3rd battle decided

[magic tree]

No

Team A1 vs B1
A1 wins

Remains of A1 vs B2
A1 wins

Remains of A1 vs B3

HP carries on winning team

[pulsar sonnet]

Oh, right.

[magic tree]

Energy does not

[slow umbra]

Welp time to put Nevanathi back in with Trish

[slow umbra]

Ty 🫶🏻

[magic tree]

Np

[pulsar sonnet]

LoL, just saw packages od DC: Dark Legion 🤣🤣🤣

999$ deal 🤣

Lilith can learn from them 🤣

[winged leaf]

Kasu 👀

[hollow flume]

[frigid willow]

Bro but wtf are those odds numbers

Every reward we have it s like odds numbers

Never 1 5 10

2 of something

[ebon sand]

I guess it won't be too long before I search for a new game to play, the game is so boring rn, no endgame, no more progression, no rewards, no content to keep me engaged, a big nothing pie

[magic tree]

Sad to see playerbase decimated by incompetent devs lol

[sour crag]

True 🥺✨

[pulsar sonnet]

So true, sadly 😕

[ebon sand]

If you guys know a good semi casual game I'm all ears, every time I try finding one on the store I feel like I'm searching for something that doesn't exist

[pulsar sonnet]

I have good fun with dark legion 😉

[frigid willow]

You can try go go muffin

[gloomy comet]

tbh i think they average highborn dragons as $1600 each, which i mean arthur shards cost 1600 so, yeah

[frigid willow]

It’s been fun till it lasted

Reusing characters and put them at a fair price of 2k

Not even useable by any f2p

Not even exchangeable for any f2p

God damn, what this company has become

[pulsar sonnet]

Greedy

[frigid willow]

They always have been greedy

But not this much

[worn socket]

O.o

[gloomy comet]

writing was on the wall releasing free outfits for hundreds of dollars

that were copy pasted from classic and already designed

[worn socket]

Somone send me some food heros cus my luck is ass of late

[gloomy comet]

if you can't give away free, i mean, idk

unfortunately its not a funny haha like can't even give dragon age away for free its just 😐

[worn socket]

Thus is life

[ebon sand]

I just remembered I used to play another Lillith game years ago, Soul Hunters, this one also was a big scam

[dire ferry]

Reading all that event shit.. Jesus Christ and I was excited for nothing

[worn socket]

@quick hinge what Campaign are u on? Ima pass u up with my f2p powers!

[magic tree]

Welcome to the club

[broken glade]

[eternal drum]

So which game are we moving on to?

I'm down to try something else. I stuck with this game and dropped money because the overlord event seemed like good value

Now I'm learning it was a bait and switch

[covert hawk]

[twin marsh]

Wait

There isnt a destiny summon for Arthur?

[gloomy comet]

event only

[eternal drum]

I was saving all my gems and scrolls for the next dim but I guess they're useless now

Maybe they'll stop releasing new heroes through destiny summon and start recycling current heroes only

No point saving resources for anything when lillith can't even stay consistent

Or maybe they're just making companions consistently resemble classic.

[civic verge]

This is worse than classic

They’re getting increasingly more audacious with choices lately for companions

[magic tree]

@twin marsh #companions-chat message

[verbal nebula]

U guys got recommendations for similiar, not as greedy games? Guess ill be out of the door soon, if this Event ships like that

[eternal drum]

Even if they change the event we now know what lillith wants to turn the game into

[magic tree]

Last month has been brutal

[eternal drum]

They're just going to slowly twist the dials until it gets to the $200/dupe level

[magic tree]

Ever since they dropped NEW ARENA in test server, bugs, non-sense and idioticies are coming back to back non-stop

[eternal drum]

Yeah arena was crazy when I waited 2 minutes to see my team beat up the other team one sidedly and then get greeted with a defeat screen only to discover that the replay was completely different

[magic tree]

Worst thing is that the game, from release to that very moment was quite shinning

Some argued it was empty of content, but each patch was a clear improvement.

Everything literally changed right on NEW Arena patch.

[gloomy comet]

it was empty of content that gives rewards for sure

[eternal drum]

Seemed like it was a classic sunk cost rugpull. Reel people in and make them spend money on what seems like good value, then turn things up to 11 when they've already invested hundreds and can't quit.

[gloomy comet]

i saw what classic turned into and what journey turned into with its first season, knew to not get financially invested

[magic tree]

Guys

I need your help

[eternal drum]

I guess lilliths strategy is to just release new games when everyone discovers how bad the current ones are

[magic tree]

There is a guild in region one, in which all their member have profile pictures that are just .... disgusting.

Pedophile content

Could you please report in game?

[eternal drum]

Inb4 they all have vip status and lillith admins have a bug where they can't see their profile pictures.

[gloomy comet]

sounds like a protest to updates

[gloomy comet]

in a weird way

some cuties level marketing for lilith co

[magic tree]

This is one of them. Can reach the guild from there

[verbal nebula]

Jesus..

[magic tree]

Report it plz.

[eternal drum]

How are they so low level on s2? Do they even log in?

[covert hawk]

pretty mutch any gatcha idle game ist like this, there are some games that are a bit better, but most of them have questionable monetization or are dead.

[eternal drum]

I thought afk companions was at least alright for not having hard locked paywall content. Shame how it turned out.

[verbal nebula]

Ikr, but one in a while theres a gem like early afk arena classic..so just looking for recommendations

[eternal drum]

I think the only way is just to play idle games that have a flat outright purchase cost.

Like melvor idle

[magic tree]

Crazy how super-companies survive on a 10 or 15$ monthly membership

Yet, mobile random games try to obtain hundreds/monthly per user

Counterproductive for them

[eternal drum]

WoW sells gold to players now so I guess it's not just a $15 sub

[magic tree]

Do not even think of games

Netflix

Multimillion company, billionaire spenditure on ads and products.
Fee: from 6$ monthly

It works just because of fidelity through time and a decent quality of the product.

AFK Arena has the quality

[covert hawk]

the best way is to stay away from gatcha stuff and play something else where skill matters. i can tell you i played these kind of games for over 12 years and they get worse over time. dunno if they get more greedy if the playerbase drops but after a certain amount of time they change the monetization, and implement more and more power creeps. i went back to coc, even 12 year old game has way way better monetization. thats why this game is still successful

[magic tree]

Yet they fail engaging and attaching the customer on the long run

[covert hawk]

afk arena changed around 2 years ago, with gg, draconic heroes etc

till then it was a decent game

[magic tree]

Jeff nailed it. Longevity brings back better monetization

[eternal drum]

Don't worry. In the long term they'll just launch a 4th game reusing the same assets and tell people it's f2p friendly

[civic verge]

Afk Journey: Companions

[covert hawk]

Anyone with a bit of intelligence will give certain game developers a wide berth if they have messed up in the past.

[verbal nebula]

Which is why im loooking for something like that. Tho i get your point, ofc, and its 100 % right. But..these games are fun, and im dumb, but not as dumb as to put hundreds into every game

[eternal drum]

I was just looking for a small distraction where I could progress over time with little time invested. My actual time is spent on good games

[twin marsh]

Lmfao

Ye this might be it for me

[covert hawk]

the further you go the slower it goes, you get your one time rewards from peaks of time etc. after that you are somewhere in like chapter 35-40 and you barley get any ressouces. like i am sitting on plently a5 heroes and i cant even afford to get them si 10/20. and the game is out for idk like 5 ? months and anything what we got are new heroes and the arena change. just check the old servers like even the top guilds arent fully filled and it just get worse.

[cloud wing]

I’m S23

[covert hawk]

If companions were like classic was about 3 years ago, the game would be successful

[eternal drum]

It's not a huge time investment for me so I can wait maybe a week to see if lillith puts more than 0 effort into improving

After that it's GGs

[covert hawk]

ik i just login 5min a day, but i swapped over to coc again. and i realizied how a good/ healthy game should look like.

[magic tree]

what is coc?

[eternal drum]

Clash of clans I assume

[covert hawk]

yes

[eternal drum]

Maybe I should try out Pokemon tcg pocket. Seems very f2p friendly. All my friends have full collections f2p

[covert hawk]

i dumped my classic account idk in nov, and i had 3 companions acc´s i dumped 2 of them and just do my "dailies" on one cuz its no effort but idk how long tho. does not look like anything will change <.<

[broken glade]

wonder why afk time cap is 12h here

[covert hawk]

[gloomy comet]

if it was still 2023 i'd say try nikke before its been around too long to catch up but now its been around too long

[covert hawk]

thats another issue with many games, you cant catch up unless you whale or the game has some kind of server system. however server system isnt always good, especially if the game get less populated and you are playing with no competition.

[broken glade]

idk I think its pretty good in classic

[eternal drum]

The server system is only good if they do merges. But it seems like no company wants to implement merges when necessary

[broken glade]

well u just get merged with other dead servers

so nothing would change

[gloomy comet]

dead servers are fine in nikke it means rank 1 frames for life

[magic tree]

Server mergers make sense but should follow a pattern

[broken glade]

or u get merged with some kraken guild and now u cant even do good anymore

[gloomy comet]

cuz they region pvp to make you compete with new whales constantly

[broken glade]

[gloomy comet]

luckily no pvp frames and the currency almost worthless

[magic tree]

Say every 6 months , 1-2, 3-4, 5-6 etc merge

From 1 to 100

Then X months later say 2 couples merge

[covert hawk]

it makes sense for a while but if the game does not change, it will die anyways, a lot of ppl quit when they are like in ch30 + and realize there is no content

[magic tree]

And continue merging previous mergers to keep it healthy and fresh

but following a scheme

The merger they did here....

some regions are 2 servers

[eternal drum]

What really sucks is the guild size limit. Anyone who can't get into the top guild in AFK just ends up dropping like flies.

[magic tree]

others are 13

[gloomy comet]

the game has so much 'content' to pull and strip down from classic they just wont, they want to charge hundreds for skins instead of release events to give people skins

[magic tree]

Also, mergers came with a huge revamp of arena system

[covert hawk]

if they dont change anything they can merge every week till 1 server is left

i mean they can just re do the old afk arena updates

dont see the issue. i mean anything is there, they can just use old content, which not require any ressources lol

[sonic isle]

My guild is top on the server and we can't recruit enough active people to fill it any more 😢

[civic verge]

@magic tree if you don’t mind, can I use your write up on the Arthur event to make a Reddit post in the companions subreddit?

[magic tree]

Sure, make it visible

[gloomy comet]

everything is just how do we design the next shareholder revenue call instead of how do we keep people around

[covert hawk]

that issue have many servers

[eternal drum]

The shareholders are the real playerbase

We are just the characters in their shareholder game

Every time they get a whale it's like pulling an SSR character in a gacha

[magic tree]

Share link here when done

[gloomy comet]

be sure to include luceus guide

[magic tree]

I was thinking about the same thing lol

Luceus and I, good cop, bad cop 😂

[eternal drum]

I'm just here wondering how long until they mute us or lock the channel

[covert hawk]

[civic verge]

Luceus guide?

Where is that

I’ll include it

[covert hawk]

we keep the channel alive

[covert hawk]

[magic tree]

Missing step 4: Quit

[gloomy comet]

uninstall*

or chargebacks

[eternal drum]

I haven't quit yet. I want to see what their response is because it'll be funny.

[sonic isle]

They would need to remove a 0 from the cost of everything

[magic tree]

There will be possibly no reaction at all

Just look at arena

[covert hawk]

i mean ppl are mad for years check classic, check reddit

[magic tree]

Which is gettign worse by the day

Like, the bug that makes all people 360 despite their actual resonance level

The bug that makes battles win or lose not reliable

[civic verge]

Can we use the F word on the companions subreddit? Just want to make sure the post isn’t taken down, if not I can censor it

[magic tree]

pixel UCK

[gloomy comet]

I would f***

[civic verge]

Got it

[magic tree]

Then it becomes F...US

xD

[eternal drum]

Censor with $ instead of *

[magic tree]

We had FUSS

It became F* * * US

[gloomy comet]

Yeah f$$$ works

Or does it

[eternal drum]

It works better than the game

Censor with whale emojis?

[magic tree]

Ch39 too populatef

I should move on

[covert hawk]

[sonic isle]

ch40 is an absolute wall

[covert hawk]

game is done then

[magic tree]

For sure looking bad

[broken glade]

ye cause u get lvls superslow after 360

[magic tree]

In the need of divine intervention

[broken glade]

and no powercreeps so get stuck

[civic verge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AFKArenaCompanions/s/0CLwjmzi29

[magic tree]

Lol good post

A dose of reality followed by humour to shallow it

[covert hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpsons-end-of-the-world-end-is-near-gif-16593998

[eternal drum]

Upvoted

[magic tree]

How much money do you think the spend hiring developing team?

because I feel I could advice them but 25% that fee and make them save the game and earn more money

They should take up on my proposal

[eternal drum]

They probably pay pennies for development

Not sure if the amount they pay their devs is divisible

[magic tree]

There we go

[civic verge]

Oh wow red chests aren’t just an old folk legend

[covert hawk]

i am not even sure how many they even have. cuz most of the stuff is recycled, same events over and over, but the game themself does not change.

[civic verge]

I’ve got a red chest like once this month

[magic tree]

yeah, that was the end of chapter green chest, turned red 😄

[magic tree]

A massive exodus more likely lol

[covert hawk]

funny thing is, that hippo said they should get rid of companions but honestly it would not fix anything for classic. but i respect the time and effort he put in to his content, cuz he really like this game.

they announced companions to get more players in to the game cuz the og game lost a lot of players. also the funny thing is, that new players starting still in companions and unless they doing some research they never know that "og" afk arena exist. thats why i am curious about why they dont put more effort into companions cuz its the first thing what new ppl see, if they dont like it, they uninstall it immediately

[magic tree]

@civic verge I specially like how the post comes from a heavy investor in the game

Which gives a clear vision of the duality and magnitude of the issue

[eternal drum]

"investor"
Investments normally come with returns.

[magic tree]

Not only F2P players have no chance to grow new heroes, but even P2Ws loathe the direction and requisites of the model.

[civic verge]

I’ve spent a lot on this game. There are times where our hard earned money is treated more fairly, but to expect $1300+ for a 0 star ascended hero??

It makes even whales want to leave

[cloud wing]

[magic tree]

What amazes me the most is:

• They had a successful Dimensional store model from 1st event.
• It was so succesful they even extended it

[covert hawk]

it was

[magic tree]

Yet, they decide to come up with a model requiring investing like ..... 50x times the amount of price?

initial copies of 3 dimensionals: 6€

initial copy of Arthur: +-300€

x50 ... like, really?

[covert hawk]

[magic tree]

Not even gonna mention how many free copies we got and also the possibility to earn them through diamonds

And even then, they come up with this dumbass tile-click-game model and absurd ratios

I sincerely realized how short-sighted they are after arena patch, but this is even a whole mile deeper in the hole.

[covert hawk]

i am just curious how many will go for him, cuz i am not sure how many giga whales companions have

[magic tree]

To be honest, going for this hero as it is right now may be a deep sign of either extremely low IQ, or absurdly high insecurity syndrome

[broken glade]

dims were successful in classic why even change it for companions just to make it more p2w

[magic tree]

I agree on that

But even then, the model they came up with was quite decent

[covert hawk]

[magic tree]

both for spenders and non-spenders

and even more importantly, sustainable in time by just replicating the model on each new Dimensional

like, literally every player could slowly build ALL dimensionals as F2P as time went by by using scroolls and diamonds

or, using some of the initial low cost ratio copies of the spirits

[remote canopy]

ngl I don't really think the classic system was all that better

you'd have to spend basically all shop currencies for them

[broken glade]

and here u waste all diamonds and scrolls for them lol

[remote canopy]

here the first copy was given and then you just ascend with destiny scrolls and diamonds

[remote canopy]

which is way better

[broken glade]

well in classic u just need 1 copy lol

[remote canopy]

which would cost you other valuable resources

[broken glade]

classic is way better as f2p or spenders

[remote canopy]

rather than scrolls which are basically their sole purpose

[magic tree]

The point is not, which one is better

[broken glade]

it doesnt take any valuable currencies in classic lol

[remote canopy]

that's just delulu

[magic tree]

Was it a fair/decent system?

Most will agree it WAS indeed decently enough

[broken glade]

well all collabs will use same as first dims

its just the ones that arent collab that will use event things

[remote canopy]

it became a lot better overtime cause the overall amount of loot increased everywhere

[magic tree]

Well, that just came out of your hat

We don't know nothing, like John Snow

All we know, for now, is that we are f. up

[broken glade]

what currencies does it use in arena that is important except lab coins lol

[cedar path]

Tell us about you cheesing players in Arena at the last 15 seconds before reset so they can't get their run backs 😄

[remote canopy]

just imagine not being able to buy anything from the shops for like over a month

[broken glade]

wow u lose a few red emblems and what not

no big deal

or u could just buy the dim for 15$

[civic verge]

Fam, I was in the top 3 the whole week. Your whale attacked me the last 5 minutes before it calculated

[remote canopy]

emblems, sg, gear, stones , heroes

from our biggest source

[broken glade]

u cant get sg from any of those currencies

[magic tree]

Did you lose the rank?

[remote canopy]

arena coins?

[broken glade]

not in classic

[cedar path]

No he didn't. You were top 8 long before he took the top spot 5 minutes prior to reset, not 15 seconds lol

[broken glade]

oh well kinda obviously u are talking out of your ass at this point

[civic verge]

No because I attacked back, because that’s how arena works

[remote canopy]

why would I be talking about classic

[civic verge]

I was top 3 the entire week. I can verify that with @quick hinge

[magic tree]

I just play in the last 10 minutes of last day tbh

[quick hinge]

[magic tree]

I stay top 100-200 during the week

[cedar path]

AbEx is gonna be lit. You won't be able to cheese your way thru that my friend

[quick hinge]

[broken glade]

sounds like me

[civic verge]

I played the game as it was intended

[quick hinge]

Indeed

Bc the entire region will there next time

[frigid willow]

Please, everyone fill the suggestion with this new event

Maybe the next event like this will be better

[cedar path]

Yep. And there's guilds that will be smoking 🔥

[maiden hare]

its gonna be 1/2 or 1/4 of your region next time becasue that many will quit

[cedar path]

Sailus can verify because I sent him screenshots of us knocking out all 3 mini bosses by day 2😂

[quick hinge]

Well for s3 it was only s70-75

Bc the others weren't old enough yet

So s4 it should be 70-83

[broken glade]

u mean s3

[quick hinge]

[broken glade]

funny how companion players are way more mad than classic players atm

[quick hinge]

Vot won't matter much

Bc top 5 get rewards

So coming first doesn't add much

[civic verge]

True, it’s not that deep

Also all I did was attack back SoCal, so if Mr Date has an issue he can take it up with me personally

[quick hinge]

Ah Mr date

[cedar path]

Mr Date is awesome. He sends videos of Russia, it's a beautiful place

[civic verge]

Okay that’s actually pretty wholesome

[quick hinge]

Sen came back

He quit a month an half ago or so

[cedar path]

Oh definitely. He loves animals. Sends vids of baby ducks at the city fountains, his dogs, him skiing. Way wholesome

So forgive me for being defensive 😄 he's become a good friend

[civic verge]

That’s cute as hell

No I get it

I miss the days when we posted our pet pics in our guild chat

Now nobody shares

Animal lovers are good people 💕

[quick hinge]

We can't send picks anymore

[civic verge]

Oh yeah, they nerfed guild chat

[pulsar sonnet]

Good evening sunshines 😎

[cloud wing]

Im a ftp, so i have to pray to rngesus for good pulls

[pulsar sonnet]

I stop spending on companions till they change their attitude

[eternal drum]

What pulls?

[winged leaf]

Funny

[remote canopy]

google says afk arena released june 21

[quick hinge]

[winged leaf]

when we were talking to @maiden hare here that many whales stopped giving lilith money..

When we wrote about the problems, everyone here laughed... But everyone, like sheep, continued to spend money and fuck around, ye kasu i talk to u too 🙃
Now enjoy what u wanted, You just screwed up the game for f2p players with your illogical thinking and many players left. So spend more plz and fck urself

[cloud wing]

[remote canopy]

CEO of yapping

[quick hinge]

Like I said earlier

I enjoy the game

So I spend

[cloud wing]

[quick hinge]

Where is your banner from

[civic verge]

The issue isn’t spending, it’s with us not being vocal enough about when they take things too far.

[cloud wing]

Secret

[quick hinge]

Well that just not fair

[cloud wing]

[winged leaf]

Nah, I think a lot of people got involved in it…

[quick hinge]

It's from a game no?

[winged leaf]

I haven't written anything here in a week, you di*khead, so shut up.

https://tenor.com/view/petting-cat-love-tap-tap-good-girl-gif-16814325707679533660

[quick hinge]

[remote canopy]

your weeks don't last more than 24 hours

[civic verge]

I’m just anticipating the next woke hero to be even more of a nightmare after these decisions they’ve made lately

[quick hinge]

Might come out on ani

[broken glade]

doubt they gonna change how woke works

[quick hinge]

Think we approaching it?

[broken glade]

i mean guess they can let us keep solise

[civic verge]

Maybe they’ll only release one woke hero and it’s a hypogean

[broken glade]

and change how u get her as well

[quick hinge]

Don't say such things

[civic verge]

I’ve spent a lot and even I might quit from that

[cloud wing]

Kasu will spend anyway if they do a woke hypo

[remote canopy]

if they really want money they can just release a 4f awk and ezizh close after

[quick hinge]

I just won't have it for awhile

[remote canopy]

just like for solise and atalene

[quick hinge]

I just want Brutus or Aantandra next

[civic verge]

Wat I know you don’t got the maulers ready for that

[remote canopy]

agreed

[quick hinge]

Shush

They're getting there

Finally got 5 ascended

[cloud wing]

Kasu doesn’t have the Maulers for woke mauler?

[civic verge]

Just an A0 one

[cloud wing]

I have the maulers for A2

[quick hinge]

[cloud wing]

[quick hinge]

After kren I can 2* an awoke

Hopefully get enough food to build chicken aswell

[quick hinge]

Got kren mats ready

[covert hawk]

crassio not a5

[quick hinge]

Crassio only just got a0

[covert hawk]

[cloud wing]

[quick hinge]

Tell the game to give me copies

[cloud wing]

No

[covert hawk]

[civic verge]

Are you getting Kren to si30?

[quick hinge]

Mhm

[covert hawk]

[quick hinge]

Although after that I'll be piss pore for arthur

[quick hinge]

U made him sig 30 aswell

Whale

[covert hawk]

no whale, just crassio enjoyer

[cloud wing]

[covert hawk]

[civic verge]

Crassio is worth investing a 30 SI into

[cloud wing]

Crassio SI30 is really good, right?

[quick hinge]

Show the box then

[quick hinge]

Mhm

[civic verge]

Yup, most people in late stage campaign use him on his own team, plus he’s integral in faction tower and solid in dream realm too

[quick hinge]

Late stage campaign

People still using audrae down there?

[civic verge]

For companions Lol

[cloud wing]

I fibbed a bit

[quick hinge]

U got a hero I don't have

I still don't have tidus

[cloud wing]

I kinda wish i had full power maulers

Go nuts in pvp, maybe

[quick hinge]

[covert hawk]

i am trying to cook on mauler setup

[civic verge]

I got them mostly upgraded. They’re not worth maxing out yet

[covert hawk]

[civic verge]

I’d SI 30 Crassio but red emblem scarcity

[quick hinge]

U almost got tran Brutus

[civic verge]

Need to save it for Kren

I wish we could transcendent awakened heroes cus then my Solise would be Tran

[quick hinge]

[cloud wing]

20 wilder T heroes for T1 A Solise

[civic verge]

Oh you meant normal Brutus

[quick hinge]

Mhm

[quick hinge]

My pride an joy soon

[cloud wing]

I was considering using some money

[quick hinge]

nada

[cloud wing]

To get my wii running again to play Skyward Sword

[quick hinge]

[covert hawk]

[quick hinge]

Did u ever play portal?

I think was the name for it

With the skylanders

[civic verge]

Using the Wii remote to swing the sword on skyward sword gave me carpal tunnel

As a kid

[quick hinge]

[civic verge]

I would not have survived medieval times

[cloud wing]

Sounds like a skill issue

[covert hawk]

[quick hinge]

This thing

Was fun

[cloud wing]

Im considering homebrewing, and learning to race randomizers

[covert hawk]

carpal tunnel from wii

[quick hinge]

?

[civic verge]

I also did art a lot so it could have been a multitude of reasons ☹️

[quick hinge]

Me an my stick figures

[covert hawk]

i got it from playing high apm games back in the days

spamming keys over and over

[civic verge]

I feel that, MMOs?

[covert hawk]

exactly

[civic verge]

Same

[maiden hare]

seems about right, well not like it would change much or anything at all, the core problem is Lilith decision making people just doing absolutely the best decision in the favor of no one. I slowly believe they got some company-intern competition on who will get the worst patch every or smth

[civic verge]

This is also recycled content, even if only krakens bought it and the rest of us didn’t support it by not spending a dime, they would have lost NOTHING

[gloomy comet]

wiimote for anything beyond wii sports was a dumb idea

watched friends play twilight princess the level of shaky cam on the bow reticle was insane

[civic verge]

I’m so glad I got twilight princess on GameCube LOL that sounds awful..

[gloomy comet]

exactly i payed full retail for it like 5 months later just to get it on GC

like last copy in a target or something lol

[civic verge]

The GC version was a little uglier, and everything was flipped so whenever I looked up maps and stuff on the internet it was for the WII version, but it felt so much better on a controller

[gloomy comet]

gaming was designed for controller, minimize the amount of physical muscle memory to maximise immersion

and saves you a lot of broken tvs

https://tenor.com/view/girl-boy-wii-remote-hit-gif-14011186

[cloud wing]

Ive played GC and Wii TP

GC TP has gale boomerang jump

[quick hinge]

Gc with the Simpsons game

[civic verge]

I really think what would get Lilith to listen is reviews. If the game is flooded with bad reviews and deters new players from joining? Maybe that would make them rethink some things. They’re losing nothing giving us old content

[maiden hare]

Done that 3/4 years ago with Engraving fiest, I think they got 3.9 or something like that from 4,8

didn't do anything

they really dont care

[civic verge]

Wow… that’s crazy

[maiden hare]

I thought they changed after I saw afk companions but now I see that I misjudged them

now they got 5 games dying

probably last pinch for money

and they gonna sell to Tencent

[civic verge]

That’s why I started on companions too after having quit classic back in 2023

[maiden hare]

in the upcoming feature

[gloomy comet]

the engraveyard movement just got people a couple more shards a month or something didnt it

[civic verge]

Maybe Tencent will be less greedy than Lilith has been lol one can hope, copium

[magic tree]

Plor twist they are learning the ropes to build a morgue

[maiden hare]

[maiden hare]

probably even more, only 5 I'm aware of

[covert hawk]

why should tencent invest

[worn socket]

[maiden hare]

I believe the name and the "player-base" could be worth something but I also asked myself that question after having those thoughts but then I realized that tencent want to buys out ubisoft (probably) so I don't see anything wrong with my thesis

[covert hawk]

[cloud wing]

Ubisoft is Uber gone

[eternal drum]

Not even "thing in Japan" could save Ubisoft. They're cooked.

[maiden hare]

it would clear a lot of our "???" if they really plan to do it tho

[eternal drum]

Ubisoft will be bought for ten cents.

[maiden hare]

ubisoft was gone in like since early 2022

[cloud wing]

People had hope for XDefiant

I had to remind them XDefiant is owned by Ubisoft

[covert hawk]

[maiden hare]

with their whole woke stuff and a lot of other fantastic ideas and criteria for landing a job there

[cloud wing]

[maiden hare]

not gonna hate on them tho

[cloud wing]

Ive always wanted to be a game dev, but im not good enough at coding to do so

[maiden hare]

as I made a lot of money from them

[maiden hare]

:C

[covert hawk]

ask Lilith if they need help

[maiden hare]

you gonna do 101% better then that dude that did the last 2/3 patches

[covert hawk]

[maiden hare]

you don't really need to be a giga-brain in coding to do game-dev stuff most of it isn't that complex as long as you dont go to SE team and don't work on your own game-engine or some other stuff in that direction

now you still need a proper degree in most countries for it and my answer doesn't count if you want to be a solo-developer

[eternal drum]

Lilith is proof that you don't need to be smart to make a game.

[maiden hare]

[light crow]

also means there are enough stupid people who can bear with this

[magic tree]

I bet if some of us unite and hire a team, we would end up with a better product

[cloud wing]

[light crow]

increasing guild member count and making them cross server would be a nice start

shits dead af

[eternal drum]

The 30 member guild limit just makes anyone not in top 30 quit

[covert hawk]

if the game loop does not change guilds will be dead even if they merge them.

step 1 should be rework game modes and rewards and then merge them.

[shy pulsar]

the new player experience is alr doomed tho

[light crow]

true which is why i think alliance contest should be a weekly event instead of every blue moon and they need to add another kind of event on top of that

[eternal drum]

The gameplay loop is
1: go to work
2: get paycheck
3: spend money

[covert hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669

[shy pulsar]

both servers new game experience is pretty much cooked

classic is just alot more cooked

comp is slightly more forgiving

[maiden hare]

afk arena classic in 2019 was like "the OG" afk/idle gatcha game and that's why I respected them, overall art and style of the game till now is still to my liking, the lack of "typical gatcha characters" is also a very big W here but they still can't make proper decision

[light crow]

if theyre only gonna read complaints in #bug-reports just send em there at least theyre replying

[eternal drum]

I managed to get shall to 5* but I can't imagine how bad the game would be if I joined now.

[shy pulsar]

just how expensive is athur

[eternal drum]

First copy is $200

A0 is 1400

[shy pulsar]

[maiden hare]

and I would really like to know why they make such decision, lilith isnt even on stock market or smth, they don't need to please their investor, raise the % or other BS it's just their pure greed

[covert hawk]

you can buy a small car for a0

[shy pulsar]

thats as bad as highborns

[covert hawk]

[eternal drum]

I give this game A0 out of 10

[light crow]

i think theyre making it shitty on purpose so they can fix it later and act like they listen to the community

[shy pulsar]

actually highborns are better value, that is beyond insane

[covert hawk]

they just milk it and pretty sure they announce soon a new game

[shy pulsar]

afk arena isnt gonna die soon tho

we are still t50 in gacha, albiet barely

[covert hawk]

[magic tree]

Their reply

The message:

• AFK Companions Test Server

Is this a bug or did you really use these numbers making it virtually impossible to even get 1E copy hero without spending large sums of money?

• Event lasts 12 days.
• You get 30 keys per day.
• On average you get 50 orange out of 30 keys.
• On average you may end up with 600 stones
• Every 125€ pack would enable the acquisition of 500 more stones.

A) 1 copy of the hero = 1600 stones

So, obtaining the E hero (unusable at this state) would cost 12 days of the event dailies and 200€ in keys.

B) Hero + All spirits = Ascended 0 stars = 6200 stones

So, the way up to A0 would cost 12 days of the event dailies + 1375€ on average.

[quick hinge]

[slim ibex]

You can build yourself a cool PC that will be relevant for at least 5 more years OR build an A5 Arthur that will be irrelevant in six months

What will you choose

[quick hinge]

A5 arthur

[light crow]

they said they'll discuss it for what it's worth

[magic tree]

@civic verge did you see that?? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262653327259471903/1353494465192660992/image-10.png?ex=67e1db73&is=67e089f3&hm=a585b3691e5923d1ee438c94666d491c9186f3d657a596771d4073f3c3f571f6&

[quick hinge]

Bc I don't like console games

[light crow]

hope they dont troll

[covert hawk]

[maiden hare]

bro A0* arthur

[slim ibex]

PC is not a console

[quick hinge]

Same sht

I like playing on the go

[covert hawk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/740982368474628200/1095738642552594432/664945747174883359.gif

[slim ibex]

[shy pulsar]

arthur is shit anyways

[quick hinge]

Or u can just buy a tv

That has steam and Xbox games

[light crow]

pc is on the go because you can pirate any console game

[quick hinge]

And u don't have to buy a pc or xbox

[shy pulsar]

he will be powercrept whenever atheus drops

[quick hinge]

[quick hinge]

Won't be sht for us

[shy pulsar]

he could be instantly shit depending on how lilith feels like releasing classic heros

[quick hinge]

[shy pulsar]

ngl idk how eugene and gavus would work

[slim ibex]

How are you going to play games on TV lol

[quick hinge]

U don't know about new TVs?

Tv's now have pc and Xbox games

Without needing to buy a pc or xbox

Can play pretty much whatever

[civic verge]

Lmao can even play monopoly/uno or even genshin impact

[quick hinge]

Indeed

[old laurel]

Tetris

[quick hinge]

My moms go to

To bully her children

[old laurel]

Might be the first I've heard of someone bullying you

You're always doing the bullying

[quick hinge]

Although if u wanna play steam games there like queue u have to sit in

If u don't buy a sub

[quick hinge]

[worn socket]

Facts

Hard facts

[quick hinge]

[old laurel]

How bigs the que though

[quick hinge]

Not very long

Normally like a min or so

[civic verge]

It looks like it’s genetic

[old laurel]

Beat me to it

[quick hinge]

[civic verge]

LOL

[old laurel]

That isn't bad at all

[quick hinge]

[slim ibex]

I doubt you'll be able to play anything on it except Terraria on ultra settings. A 4K graphics card alone will cost from $2000

and your TV is just cloud gaming

[quick hinge]

I can do that perfectly fine

?

[quick hinge]

And?

U can still play Xbox and pc games etc without buying any of them

[civic verge]

But can you mod Minecraft?

[quick hinge]

Think my tv was ~$300 or so

[quick hinge]

[covert hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-poor-nomoney-gif-2298989163615958077

[quick hinge]

Na, tell me why

[maiden hare]

It's not worth to make counter arguments with that person

[quick hinge]

I tried solo leveling modded Minecraft

And the sht never worked

Just kept crashing

[quick hinge]

[eternal drum]

Anyone want to hop on a different game? I got some funds for different games now that I know I don't need to spend on companions

[maiden hare]

[quick hinge]

Why

[quick hinge]

Am waiting on another game

[slim ibex]

lol bro go to sleep, you don't need to buy pc games the ones you play, they're free to play

[quick hinge]

But they won't tell me a release date

[civic verge]

Minecraft has a sololeveling mod?

[quick hinge]

But u have to buy a pc

[slim ibex]

And

[quick hinge]

Would rather buy a 300 tv then a $3k pc

When the tv does the same thing as the pc

[quick hinge]

Mhm

[eternal drum]

I wouldn't say exact same but the market is messed up so I wouldn't recommend a PC either.

At least the steam deck is still pretty capable for a low price

[quick hinge]

Haven't touched my pc in months

[slim ibex]

Can you render video on a TV?

[quick hinge]

Wym?

[limber plank]

Is there any experienced player that can gimme advice?

[eternal drum]

Yeah. Quit while you're ahead. 👍

[quick hinge]

[eternal drum]

Hate to be the bearer of bad news

[slim ibex]

You're saying why buy a PC if a TV does the same thing no

[covert hawk]

[limber plank]

I alr quit I got a life you suckers

[quick hinge]

Game wise yes?

[eternal drum]

Nice

[civic verge]

What’s that like?

[limber plank]

It's nice

[covert hawk]

10 yo

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-peepoleave-gif-20075315

[quick hinge]

What I'm waiting on atm

[limber plank]

Tf is that

[eternal drum]

Dang how expensive is that jpeg

[quick hinge]

A game

[eternal drum]

Our jpegs don't do that and they cost $1400

[civic verge]

About as much as A0 Arthur

[torn mountain]

Hello, is Arthur good?

[eternal drum]

$1400 good? No.

[quick hinge]

He will be useful

[torn mountain]

[covert hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/p2w-gif-19285196

[limber plank]

Guess what

[quick hinge]

Hm?

[torn mountain]

Meta or niche?

Or is he not out yet

[limber plank]

I got a 5 star shaltear 🗿

[civic verge]

On the test server

[quick hinge]

Not out yet

[torn mountain]

I see

[quick hinge]

Nice

[quick hinge]

Could be meta

Due to his dmg buff

[civic verge]

We’ll never know tho cus 99% can’t afford

[quick hinge]

Meta for krakens

[twin marsh]

How the fuck do they keep messing up this bad

[quick hinge]

Although ig I'll be skipping tran shall

[covert hawk]

ask next when when kasumi have him

[quick hinge]

I'll do arthur instead

[limber plank]

Is the ice spider pet meta?

[civic verge]

I shouldn’t have transcended Shalltear

[quick hinge]

Shroom?

[torn mountain]

I only play classic, I heard stuff about a 200$ per copy hero. I almost feel bad, this is worse than classic stuff

[twin marsh]

Destiny summon was already expensive as fuck, and now this

[quick hinge]

[limber plank]

Yes

[eternal drum]

The new guides posted for companions will just be IRL money making guides.

[covert hawk]

[quick hinge]

He's decent to slow down healing

[quick hinge]

Selen doing the same

[limber plank]

I use the healing one

[civic verge]

Have you tried selling a kidney to upgrade your Arthur to mythic?

[limber plank]

The deer

[quick hinge]

Deer is quite good

[limber plank]

And the bug thing the common one

[eternal drum]

I might sell both to get him to 5*

[civic verge]

Two kidneys is only A0

[quick hinge]

How many spirits was it to 5* btw?

Can't remember

[civic verge]

13

[quick hinge]

That sounds like a0

[civic verge]

Oh you’re right

That’s A0

[quick hinge]

So 23?

[limber plank]

What about 13 kidneys💀

[torn mountain]

How much for a maxed Arthur?

[civic verge]

That’ll get you a5 Arthur and an invite to their Facebook messenger vip chat

Which is useless btw

[quick hinge]

$1

[eternal drum]

Isn't it impossible to max Arthur in the event?

Gotta scamgaze

[limber plank]

I love spending thousands on pixels on a screen yippie