companions-chat

[wide hill]

Does it feel like the defense increase is doing much at that deficit?

Maybe she just needs some good supports

[wary cave]

Now i just need 15 space emblems

[broken glade]

honestly shalltear is so disappointing

[wary cave]

I like her

i’d just wish ainz was better

I love that guy

[broken glade]

pretty sure ainz is a lot better than her after doing their trials

[wary cave]

Im getting ainz next idrc abt albedo

[broken glade]

idk if i will get another

getting shalltear to 3* took all my diamonds and scrolls

[silent ravine]

The difference between classic and companions is wild

[wary cave]

We got a month

and whole lotta free stuff

[broken glade]

well not surprising after all her skills are nerfed super hard here

[wary cave]

My duo went ainz so we both chillin

[silent ravine]

How hard

Cuz she has ainz scaling

With 3 cheat deaths

In classic

And her furn leads to perma stun

[broken glade]

like her ulti does like 150% dmg here instead of 500

[silent ravine]

☠️

[wide hill]

Someone screenshot classic Shalltear

That would be so funny if true

[broken glade]

classic numbers

and she lost one of her cheat deaths

and her stun lost like all dmg

[silent ravine]

She’s amazing in classic

Like deadass cracked

Is ainz nerfed or na

[toxic gust]

So Ainz is the better one?

[light elbow]

1 more Shalltear/Spirit til shes at max ascencion, i didnt even have to spend any money😭

[wide hill]

Those are some serious nerfs

[broken glade]

im gonna check if i can reset shalltear

nope its impossible

[wide hill]

Just because she is nerfed a lot doesn’t mean she isn’t still best pick in companions I wouldn’t worry

[light elbow]

Shes doing wonders for me here in Companion server, but im also still very early game (like only ch12)

[halcyon maple]

So who is best rn?

[wide hill]

No way to know

The whales haven’t built them all yet

Only been 2 hours and you would probably need all 1700 summons to get all 3 max ascended

[light elbow]

I think its between Ainz and Shalltear lol most of the whales on my server have went Ainz, but a few are using Shalltear

[halcyon maple]

At f2p standards?

Sorry

[wide hill]

What server?

[light elbow]

Im 100% f2p, and almost have Shalltear maxed already

[light elbow]

69

[meager kiln]

Got her to mythic sadly no more pulls

[wide hill]

Did you do the trials?

Can get 30 from there

[meager kiln]

Nope

I thought it was 10

[wide hill]

10 per trial

[meager kiln]

Oh ok I’ll do it now

[wide hill]

Also can try them out

[light elbow]

I just need 1 more spirit and she will be maxed, shouldnt be hard by the end of the event lol

[wide hill]

By maxed you mean a5?

Her divine A3 doesn’t apply till she is level 321

[light elbow]

Noo i mean just regular A

Im not counting the stars atm lol

[wide hill]

Oh okay okay

[magic tree]

How many scrolls?

[light elbow]

Ive used 140 so far

[wide hill]

Um wtf

[light elbow]

Huh?

[halcyon maple]

What characters work well with ainz?

[wide hill]

Ones that keep him alive long enough to cast

[light elbow]

Rosaline would be great

Rosaline, Rowan, and a healer

[halcyon maple]

So shemira and belinda 👌

[wide hill]

Lmao

[halcyon maple]

I hate rowan idk why

[light elbow]

Understandable, i never use him either lol

[wide hill]

No rowan is op

[broken glade]

albedo

[wide hill]

Must use

[broken glade]

[halcyon maple]

Makes sense

[wide hill]

Everyone sleeping on albedo

[broken glade]

like rosa, rowan, albedo, ainz and mortas op team

[wide hill]

The disrespect is crazy

[broken glade]

well she requires other dims

oh well honestly they just fucked up companions hard this patch

they managed to make dims worse than in arena

and game kinda turning extremely whaley

[halcyon maple]

I'd assume they'll release plenty of busted carries so shalltear might not be a good long term investment for f2p, ainz looks good despite that.

Albedo looks pretty future proof unless her stats are bad or am I stupid?

[broken glade]

albedo still used in arena sometimes

ainz is dead there

[magic tree]

How come you got all the fodders to ascend in ONLY 140 scrolls.

[light elbow]

Lucky ig lol

[hollow flume]

[magic tree]

I mean dont you need 23 spirits to max ascend?

[light elbow]

180 will be the longest it could take me rn, cause im missimg 1 and at 180 summoms u get 1 lol

[magic tree]

Are you saying you got 23 out of 140 pulls?

[light elbow]

Nono

If u read above, i just said normal ascend

Not 5 star

[magic tree]

Ah

Btw the 6 euros copies

Have the same use as a spirit?

[light elbow]

Good question, no idea

I didnt buy anything lol

[magic tree]

Like, if chose shallteat from chest , what are those offers for?

[worldly sapphire]

.

[halcyon maple]

Good question if assume they can be used to ascend but not sure

[worldly sapphire]

If you choose a hero that you already got from chest, it will convert into the material

Dimensions spirit

[frail arch]

how many spirits? or just one

[wide hill]

The use is for whales to be able to have second or third dim now instead of waiting for the free chest

[coarse forum]

whales dont care about 1 purp copy imo.. like it doesnt even register 😛

[wide hill]

They need to buy it to be able to get the first copy though

[grand moon]

who is better ainz albedo or shaltear

[coarse forum]

ok let me refresh.. whales also dont care about a $5 pack.. like it doesnt even register lol

[wide hill]

Yes it’s basically free dim for them

[coarse forum]

well other than they need to ascend and that gets them into the $100s

[toxic gust]

I went for sheltear simply because looks cool 😎 xD

[coarse forum]

I chose my wife the same way

[wide hill]

To ascend all 3 near 1k no joke

[coarse forum]

The real question is after ascending all 3, who are the other 2 you let into the party

[wide hill]

A5 talene

Since the whales have that

[coarse forum]

Is that who people are gazing?

[wide hill]

Yeah

[silent ravine]

Is Shalltear actually nerfed or is that dude trolling

[wide hill]

Companions and classic units have different stats yes

[silent ravine]

Damn

[wide hill]

But the nerf seems pretty big

[silent ravine]

So did ainz get nerfed as well

[wide hill]

I see a lot of changes

[silent ravine]

Or did they only target Shalltear

[wide hill]

I don’t think so

I think Shalltear targeted probably too broken in test so had to nerf

[proper timber]

By how much

[silent ravine]

A lot

[proper timber]

Is she still good?

[silent ravine]

Like A lot

[wide hill]

She is still good

[silent ravine]

Her ult went from 550 to 150

[wide hill]

No

It’s 550 to 250 I think

[silent ravine]

She did lose a cheat death

[proper timber]

Is she better than the others?

[coarse forum]

Ainz and Albedo need to be paired, so if you can onlyu uraise 1, go shall

[silent ravine]

Remains to be seen

[proper timber]

Oh ok

[silent ravine]

Cuz in classic it’s no contest, it’s shalltear

[proper timber]

Yeah I doubt I can get both to asc

[silent ravine]

Ainz is beyond doodoo in classic

I wonder how he stacks up in companions

[coarse forum]

When he released though originally was fire

[wide hill]

Ainz was OP for a long long time

But we already have awakened

[silent ravine]

Ngl if they are nerfing Shalltear the future of companions don’t look too bright

Are they gonna nerf Abel? Ashem? Wath?

[proper timber]

Is shaltears sig worth it?

[dusky portal]

Hopefully they’ll fix this lol

[coarse forum]

not a bug

[dusky portal]

Oh :\ lol

Shaltear and albedos are translated tho

[coarse forum]

They never updated it in classic, so either 4 year old bug or byu design 😛

[dusky portal]

Awe man

That sucks ass

Ima try to contact supp doubt they’ll care tho

Wish they’d just given them the English VAs

I like Ainz dub much more anyways

[coarse forum]

<3'

[dusky portal]

Thx tho

Appreciate the info

[wide hill]

Does this apply at 321 or as soon as you get it?

[maiden hare]

321

[wary cave]

[wary cave]

Is that compainion?

Was doing singles trying to pull some emblem chests 💀

[cedar remnant]

Ainz aaaool gown

[sleek stream]

Who is the best overlord choice?

[silent ravine]

[wary cave]

2 more left

[frail arch]

shaltear + Talene = Immortality 😂😂 unless one shot

[wary cave]

Yup

[wary cave]

How do you like my arena defense?

[sleek stream]

Is the girl the best?

[robust spire]

Hard to say, everyone's going for Shalltear

Will have to wait for someone willing to build all units to give feedback

[native lark]

?

Wdym waiting for feedback unless Shaltear was nerfed for companion it’s her by a landslide

[robust spire]

Companions isn't Classic you can't be certain

Initially Shemira was trash now she's only second to ASolice

You can say the safest route to go is Shalltear but Landslide is farfetched no one has a built Ainz there ain't no telling if he goes back to his glory days of the first ult whole team nuke

[grand moon]

what is a go to team for history mode

[obtuse jay]

She is nerfed

[frail arch]

chapter 11 to chapter 16
Because of Shaltear and Talene combo they just won't die 😂😂 imagine after killing shalter she will just came back with full hp and Talene in the back will keep reviving and healing shaltear

and my hero level is mostly level 140 only shaltear is 160

[wary cave]

From waht ive heard she was mega nerfed

[visual turret]

My dumbass picked albedo as the first hero form the chest

[native lark]

Doesn’t surprise me what aspect of her kit was nerfed?

Like a skill or her just her multipliers in general?

Man we need more batteries in companion

Rowan and Rosaline ain’t enough

[sour veldt]

Who should I pick on the collab?

[wintry tartan]

Is it safe to use dimensional spirit on shaltear

[obtuse jay]

I'm waiting for people that can test all 3 of them first

[unkempt kindle]

most stages with shalltear looks like this atleast, although I would power through with any team comp with solise. She is usable but not sure if broken

3rd team @ campaign

[wintry tartan]

Should i pick shaltear over Ainz?

[unkempt kindle]

I can't answer that, I just built shalltear and showed some numbers cuz i cba the "what is best" i just test myself xD

All I heard was ainz wasnt usable without albedo like proper maxed from classic, but idk here

I do like the Shalltear Talene front combo tho

[wintry tartan]

Oh. Do you know how many D spirit to ascend

[unkempt kindle]

works the same as normal

[wintry tartan]

Idk what that means.

[unkempt kindle]

so the same amount of copies you would need to ascend a normal hero

i dont know that number, but around 20-24?

[wintry tartan]

Oh. Gotchu. Should i spend diamond on getting spirit to ascend shaltear then

[unkempt kindle]

With the information we have as of this hour, shalltear works alone. She is usable, atleast in every scenario where I have used her. Obv I am a dolphin so I have other good heroes right.

However I can't say she will be better than albedo/ainz, but people claim that you need both maxed for them to be "efficient" so that means shalltear is by default cheaper.

[wintry tartan]

I mean, it seems like I only need 3 more spirits to ascend her

[dreamy mist]

where are all the active codes for camp??

where can i find them?

[mighty wagon]

me too where are all active codes

?

[robust spire]

I got Shalltear but won't say she's broken either
Strong yes broken nah at higher deficits she just triggers the first cheat death in seconds can't seem to make her work without Sonya+Salaki or Sonya+Below just need her to buy enough time to stack are SI passive

[unkempt kindle]

indeed

[robust spire]

What part haven't accessed classic yet

[unkempt kindle]

she is a nice add tho, I quite like that shes not powercreeped the other heroes, lets just hope ainz and albedo also wont do that. xD

[robust spire]

I'm curious maybe Ainz gets to reign supreme again as I expected.
It all depends on how much damage he deals with his ult Shalltear single dps just ain't cutting it for me

There's a combo i use Shalltear+Rosa+Rowan+Owl makes Shall spam her Ultimate more often though with Sonya/Salaki she survives

But then again this last combo would work better for Ainz whole map nuke better

[unkempt kindle]

test it out for us and come back later in the day 😉

[robust spire]

I'm f2p so can't afford to get both today

But I'll definitely have two at awakened before the collab ends

[unkempt kindle]

yea it was surprisingly easy to get 5* even, i had saved 320 scrolls and 70k gems for a little mroe than a month

expected i would have to swipe some more but nah

[robust spire]

I got enough for A5 in 510 summons

But I stopped at A0, Shalltear just need A3 but I'm saving to 10 Spirits for Albedo/Ainz

[light elbow]

Anyone able to help me out with a lineup for 2 team afk stages?

[unkempt kindle]

prolly good call, sadly ill just swipe em if they are good xD

[robust spire]

#companions-lineup-help and drop your roster

[robust spire]

[light elbow]

Did like 4hrs ago, was just hoping someome here could go take a looksie and help lol

[robust spire]

😅

[sterile monolith]

Has there been anything about how to pull dim spirits after they leave divine summons?

[lament hatch]

How many spirits do you need to ascend one of them to A5

[rotund quest]

Its probably still Albedo

This is comming from someone who originated from regular AFK and hasn't touched the game in like a year, but reading Albedo's Sig, she seems like the best build purely because overtime Albedo would still be more useful as a support option with ATK boost

[wary cave]

23

any1 know when 3 team appears in tower?

[remote canopy]

450

[wary cave]

gotcha thx

[simple quail]

does albedo si requires her to be alive?

[robust spire]

So 13 to Ascended didn't keep track

[wary cave]

ye

[robust spire]

My duo went Shall+Albedo
I'll go Shall+Ainz

[obsidian meteor]

So before i do anything stupid. On which hero of the 3 new ones should i focus first. I think I'm missing a good dmg dealer

[silver arrow]

I think you asked a bit too late

Why am I looking at L athalia and L mehira

[wary cave]

wait thats funny im on that stage too, tho nowhere near ur level.

[robust spire]

I'm a slacker
Was so behind I didn't even know this was a thing

[meager kiln]

I use to get this idk why I don’t anymore

[robust spire]

You have to be stronger than the enemy's lineup

[ivory brook]

Ainz ot albedo?

[worldly sapphire]

Agree, Shalltear is way more versatile

[worldly sapphire]

It was yes

[worldly sapphire]

Shalltear kings tower

[maiden hare]

Stargazer X.X

[tame creek]

i was about to buy the new heroes when i notice we can get for free 😅

[simple quail]

If you want to get more copies you can buy it

[tame creek]

no way we we need more copies

we can upgrade with the copies?

[simple quail]

Yes , 13 for ascended

[worldly sapphire]

Is Overlord worth watching?

[simple quail]

If you like fantasy anime yes

[robust spire]

Isekai, it is a good watch

[worldly sapphire]

Alright I'll add it to my ever growing watch list

[pulsar sonnet]

Good think in this overlord event is we gave tons of fodders

[simple quail]

But that's only because we are spending all saved resources haha

[robust spire]

You gain fodders because your spending summons

[twin marsh]

Is companions good? Just downloaded the game after a while and saw that it’s the standard version now

[robust spire]

Yh

[twin marsh]

Is there any way to see when the last server came out? Don’t wanna start too late into it

[pulsar sonnet]

@swift depot i just rush from fresh start to ch 27

Broken duo without restrictions

[elfin halo]

Guys!! good to build stalltear for newbie?and 3* or 5*?

[silent ravine]

It’s funny to see how big the deficit between classic and companions is

[swift depot]

What' RC level reached the new account?

[swift depot]

Look up the Ainz vs Shaltear fight on YouTube, should be enough to hook you up

[swift depot]

S72 & S73 came out at today reset

[swift depot]

The ult preventing flames look pretty cool

[verbal forge]

is very simple sadly ainz needs to be very big to be useful

and also needs albedo

shaltear seems to be prety op evem at +20

[silent ravine]

Her +30 is ass

[verbal forge]

and whats also shit is that his best abilty is loked after 5 stars

[silent ravine]

Unless they changed the +40 to +30 in companions

Ainz just looks like whale material

[verbal forge]

when u talk about ainz u need another hero

thats the problem

shaltear has 4 cheat death abilities

[silent ravine]

Isn’t it 3

[verbal forge]

4

[silent ravine]

Then ye she’s better

[verbal forge]

she also shit on ainz with albedo in pvp

[silent ravine]

Ainz struggles so much by himself

[verbal forge]

if someone cares about pvp

[silent ravine]

Tbf comp is missing some very good units

But ainz isn’t one of them

They should have reworked his kit

[verbal forge]

for pve he will be alright for quite some time

depends what heroes they bring

if they bring abrutus for maulera

then hes toast

[silent ravine]

It’s prob abrutus then athane

Then abaden

A bel

A bel is gonna be hilarious cuz she’s just better ainz

[verbal forge]

abel is more then a better ainz

[silent ravine]

She’s mid in classic but prob gonna fold companions in half

[verbal forge]

mate something like raku or scarlet would be s tier here

for a long time

i think thats why they dont bring them yet

[silent ravine]

Do you have lucretia yet

[verbal forge]

no

[silent ravine]

Oh that’s another funny hero

[verbal forge]

lucretia here would not be that good

cuz here you need stars instead of furniture

so pretty hard to build

[silent ravine]

Oh ye then nvm

But any b+ awakened in classic

Is going to annailate companions

[verbal forge]

not really cuz scaling is very difeerent here

enemies open si in chapter 24 i think

and get stars around chap 30

stars means furniture and engravings basicaly

[silent ravine]

☠️

There’s no way they actually locked furn and engraving behind stars

Lib is basically unusable then

[verbal forge]

its very good actualy cuz u get a lot free scrols

u can male heroes 5 stars very easy

[radiant onyx]

Albedo feels underwhelming by herself is this normal?

[silent ravine]

Like any one star cell hypo becomes too high investment

[silent ravine]

Yes

[verbal forge]

albedo is a buffer

ofc she is ass solo

[silent ravine]

You guys are missing Rem

And like other good dim dps

Albedo is basically ainz slave rn

[verbal forge]

i dont mind it cuz its way more fun then what they turned

clasic into

[swift depot]

High anime reference

[verbal forge]

clasic is so garbage rn that is tragic

[radiant onyx]

Sorry I mean to say that she feels underwhelming period. She’s a buffer but she’s marked as tank how come? Cause she doesn’t seem very tanky
Maybe I’m playing her wrong but is she supposed to be in the back line? And does she only work well with ainz

[verbal forge]

clases here

are not like in other games cuz here you dont fight at a equal level

if u were to be 240 vs 240 in level then tanks are tanks

but here u are 200 vs 240

for example

[silent ravine]

They put too many resources into trying to make comp work except comp gives off a horrible impression

[verbal forge]

tanks mean shit at that

[silent ravine]

The only real tank is like Brutus

[radiant onyx]

Oh I see that makes more sense

[silent ravine]

Cuz he actually tanks

[verbal forge]

"taanks" here are heroes that have some gimick spel

like brutus

[silent ravine]

True tanks don’t exist even in classic

[verbal forge]

a tank ia a hero that has to survive till you backline does dmg

it does not have to be a tank class

[radiant onyx]

Interesting
Then i guess I should put more resources into her? Because as of now, she gets blown up by everything. I’ve been prioritising shalltear so should she be next or ainz?

[verbal forge]

her

[silent ravine]

Albedo>ainz

She has future uses

[verbal forge]

i suggest focusing all on getting shaltear to 5 stars

or at least 3

then albedo

[silent ravine]

Shalltear to 3, 5 is for whales

Unless you don’t plan on using albedo

[radiant onyx]

Oh gotcha. My shalltear is at 1 star right now she already carries like . Insanely compared to any other unit I’ve used

[verbal forge]

keep in mind

albedo needs +30

till then shes useles

[radiant onyx]

Bruh

[verbal forge]

thats the problem with her and ainz

they need to much stuff

[silent ravine]

Shalltear is low investment

In classic she’s like 209 e30 which would be 20 si and 3 star

[radiant onyx]

welp that’s awfully grindy, thank you for the tips lol guess I won’t be thinking of albedo for a while 😅

[verbal forge]

nvm for albedo to be what shes usualy is

she need also 3 star effct

so yeah +30 and 3 stars

[silent ravine]

Albedo is 303 in classic

Damn the star system kinda sucks ngl

Especially for cell gypos

[verbal forge]

no celehypos here are very hard to get for now so yeah

[silent ravine]

The only really important ones are like wath and lib and Aurelia

And those are going to be whale material

[verbal forge]

no such thing here thats

[radiant onyx]

I’ve been struggling to find any tier lists at all online with this version of the game so it’s kind of hard to know what to invest into tbh

[verbal forge]

check pins in questions

theres a wishlist here

for celehypos just go all in on talene

[silent ravine]

Why not audrea

[radiant onyx]

Oh thanks! Yeah actually, I use Andrea is she not good? She seems so

[verbal forge]

cuz forked fate exists here

[radiant onyx]

Audrea *

[verbal forge]

and talene will always be meta

audrae is also good but its a hero thats not really needed

[solemn moss]

what is the best unit from this colobaration?

[silent ravine]

Did they buff her in comp?

[verbal forge]

not really but here u have 2 campaign modes

[silent ravine]

Makes sense

[verbal forge]

and in one you cant lose 2 heroes per batle

if u do you lose

[silent ravine]

Oh

So it’s like rift in classic

[silent ravine]

☠️ imagine that in classic we are cooked

[verbal forge]

different scalings here going to 30 deficits

becomes very hard

[silent ravine]

Pushing would be impossible since so many early comps require fodder sacs

[verbal forge]

40+ is kinda imposible

[silent ravine]

Yeah anything under 100 Deficit is considered ass and easy

You usually push anywhere from 110-400 level deficits depending on how many awakened you got

[verbal forge]

i doubt here even whales could do that

with full +30 and transcendence

[silent ravine]

Tbf you are missing the absolute goats of campaign

[verbal forge]

doesnt matter what heroes come we will most like be years apart from 100 deficits

[silent ravine]

I remember when pushing 100 level was considered impressive with daimon

[silent ravine]

If they don’t nerf Ivan it’s gonna be pretty easy

Or Randle

Or Rem

[verbal forge]

no cuz u dont have tree here

or colections

or rhe other crap

is just clasic afk

[warm vine]

Lots of ppl on classic can do like 600+

[verbal forge]

like 2019 afk

[warm vine]

Yea

[verbal forge]

u dont even have artifacts

[silent ravine]

No call?

[verbal forge]

no

[silent ravine]

☠️

[warm vine]

Idk why you’d play companion atp

[verbal forge]

cuz is more fun then what clasic became

[warm vine]

Your like 4 years behind for 0 reason seems odd to me that Lilith even made it

[verbal forge]

i was a beta player in clasic

[warm vine]

I mean it’ll go in the same direction

It’ll just take a bit

[silent ravine]

They also made it needlessly complicated

[verbal forge]

dragons and colections ruined the game

[quasi scroll]

you do. Collections and pets are both here, and are combined into one.

[verbal forge]

its to late to come back from that

[warm vine]

Not really, even now I only need to play like 15 mins a day max

[verbal forge]

this version of pets

is ok

i dont mind it

[quasi scroll]

Engravings and furniture is also here, combined into the stars

[silent ravine]

Tbf if they improved the garbage bait gain pets wouldn’t be bad in classic

[verbal forge]

eng and furniture i had no problems with those on clasic

[silent ravine]

Rn it’s rush seal to 18 and worry about the rest later

[warm vine]

Bait is super easy now I think

[verbal forge]

dragons and collections just fcked the game

[silent ravine]

They are improving those rates they said in dev notes

I don’t know by how much cuz

[warm vine]

Colls do kinda suck but dragons are literally same as every other powercreep

[silent ravine]

God colls are so miserable

[warm vine]

Just sucks bc cards are rare rn

Will be better later

As with wokes and pets

[silent ravine]

My average coll run ends up being scrapped

[quasi scroll]

I'm absolutely certain we'll get dragons eventually

question is if they'll rework them like the wokes

[verbal forge]

the thing is u guys are just playing a game that they clearly want to ditch away slowly

[radiant onyx]

Btw is it worth to wish for Orthros in stargazing? He seems like a very strong tank from what I saw in the campaign levels

[silent ravine]

The way they did wokes in companions is really nice

I wish it was like that in classic

[verbal forge]

wokes here are the best thing they did and why its fun to play

[silent ravine]

Shitty time emblems

My ashem is still only m

[verbal forge]

u get a free woke just by playing basicaly

rest is just upgrading it

[silent ravine]

Idk how they gonna handle multiple wokes of same faction

[verbal forge]

10 ascended

for the next woke

and so on for the same faction

it will take years anyway

problem is the wokes in cele/hypo but they will most likely improve later one

[silent ravine]

Ye the only hero that would break companions would be Ivan

[silent ravine]

That is going to be interesting

[verbal forge]

and i dont think they plan on bringing every hero from clasic

specialy newish ones

i think they bring most of the ogs then maybe new stuff

[silent ravine]

The new stuff is later

[quasi scroll]

Sure bud

[silent ravine]

It makes sense for them to skip atalene and aezizh

[verbal forge]

i mean next hero here will be a new one

[silent ravine]

But why did they skip abrutus

[verbal forge]

that will also come on clasic

[quasi scroll]

Imagining a world, in which Lilith doesn't scrape through the bottom of every barrel in their possession, as well as yours. Hilarious.

[silent ravine]

And athane

And abaden cuz you have nevanthi

[verbal forge]

they will bring aw heroes here slow i thini cuz they are easy to get

if they bring now all 4f aw heroes i would open them all

and im just 2 months in

[silent ravine]

Isn’t the next one gb

So that would be abaden

Then athane

Then abrutus

[verbal forge]

idk new hero coming is a new one on both clasic

and comp

dunno when next aw comes

[broken glade]

we dont rly have many heroes that give energy though

theres no new hero next patch

[robust spire]

True if ABel arrives now not much units to help with synergy

Need Solo chads like ABrutus/ABaden/AThane

[pulsar sonnet]

We get no new hero till February

If so maybe new woke

[swift depot]

Most likely new woke, since we already had one new addition on each 4f since launch

And that wouldn't clash with Dimensional spirit taking the DS slot

But then again, it's not hard for them to have a "selector" like when you could pick between 4 heroes already in normal pool

[robust spire]

Hope we get a woke then a selector

Enough time to recuperate from spending all these scrolls

[pulsar sonnet]

Fuck they 4 trash hero pick xD

I want new woke

[wary cave]

Wheres the video?

[wary cave]

Im ready for whoever, got all factions at minimum 5 acended

[native lark]

You lot cope too much this is a Lilith game they ain’t giving u what u expect

[robust spire]

Same here

[wary cave]

Should I use these two chests to obtain copies of Wilders to get closer to maxing solise? Or just grab two copies of grezhul

[robust spire]

Except Cele/Hypo need another 2 years for that

[sonic isle]

Have to finish the 7 days I think

[wary cave]

Idk i feel like it can be done soonish

[wary cave]

Ah ok

[kind fern]

Hi, is worth to spend all the pulkls on the Valkirye?

[robust spire]

If you want I use mine to get A5s

[pallid wedge]

@broken glade Should you make SI30 Rowan or Gwyneth?

[wary cave]

Hm yea kk

[broken glade]

probably wont xD

[pallid wedge]

@broken glade What do you want me to do to you? Megiru perhaps?

[broken glade]

only mercs im using are like solise and nevanthi

[robust spire]

Yh A3Si20

Anything beyond that is spenders territory

[worldly sapphire]

Max solise

[broken glade]

just build after what u need

[pallid wedge]

Oks

[broken glade]

problem with mercs is they lack stars

[pallid wedge]

Yes bro

[kind fern]

What do you mean with this?

[native lark]

Signature item 20 ascension 3 stars

[silver arrow]

Kraken

[rotund nexus]

What’s the difference between this and the classic one

[swift depot]

the absolute madlad

[swift depot]

what server is this from?

[silver arrow]

7

[native lark]

Jesus

[outer bone]

Don2025 is the only active code for companions?

[haughty canyon]

I've heard people say to prio shalltear out of the new dimensional trio

is that right

[kind fern]

This is companins but ty anyway :)

[swift depot]

yeah, it applies to companions

[kind fern]

Not yet because we dont have SI

oh sorry

I mean furnitures

[swift depot]

what ch are you at?

Furniture is implemented into Divinity

[kind fern]

So 3 stars is the best for this Character?

[pulsar sonnet]

5 star

[kind fern]

Explain you

[pulsar sonnet]

Si 20,but I go A5 mine

[kind fern]

You have it at 5 but as I asked, 3 is the optimal

[robust spire]

3 star is bench mark anything after that is spenders territory

Focus on getting Albedo next

Get her to si20 her SI30s is much broken just do it for the extra stats

So A3Si20

[native lark]

Shaltear 3*s a bit much tbh

One extra cheat death is juicy but I ain’t rich

[kind fern]

So I have 500 pulls for the banner, should I use it to get 5* Shaltear?

[robust spire]

The minimum threshold also increases to 50%

[native lark]

Oh man I forgot about that

[robust spire]

Read messages A3SI20
Ascended 3 Stars Signature Item 20

[native lark]

Lol so what’s the verdict on ainz?

Cause am thinking about saving gems and destiny scrolls till the next dimensional that isn’t mid drops

[robust spire]

No tests on him yet so can't say

[verbal forge]

its the same as on clasic

[robust spire]

Albedo is very good units for dim teams getting her as a second unit should be a no-brainer

[verbal forge]

what do u mean verdict he is good but he needs a lot of investment

he needs +30 and 5 stars and albedo also needs +30 and 3 stars

to be what they are

getting this as a f2p is gonna take a very long time

[simple quail]

What threshold will you say for albedo @robust spire ? Also si +20 shaltear or albedo first

[robust spire]

Again this isn't Classic when would y'all stop placing them side by side

[verbal forge]

mate i literaly said what albedo needs

like you cant read?

[robust spire]

SI30 15% extra boost in attack

[verbal forge]

some people here either chose not to read and ask the same questions every 3 mins

[robust spire]

[verbal forge]

like it literaly right there and he still ask what albedo needs

its like he choses not to think

[simple quail]

Was meaning the ascension part , as shaltear is A3 but don't know albedo one

[dusty badger]

idk if this has been asked yet but how or where do I obtain the Skin for Dolly from the collaboration event?

[verbal forge]

hm

[robust spire]

The event you complete daily

[verbal forge]

its hard to read

[dusty badger]

ok ty

[native lark]

I mean I can keep them at base copy no problem

Am gonna wait till the last day to spend all my gems and scrolls maybe I take her to A1Si20

Am too broke to build anyone

[verbal forge]

if you have scrolls now just used them no point in holding

[robust spire]

Facts just start progressing as little as you can

[verbal forge]

you are not even pulling from heroes

ur pulling for stones

[native lark]

Stones?

[verbal forge]

or spirits or how the fck they are called

i think dimensional spirits

[native lark]

Spirits lol

Coping we get more spirits eventually

[verbal forge]

they will go to stargaze

[native lark]

Rates for destiny summons is cheeks

[verbal forge]

so u will be able to get them

but it will be slow

[native lark]

Wise to SG them? Or save cards for units like daemia and liberta?

[verbal forge]

u dont even know if those heroes

are coming to companions

or if they come , when they come

they might decide to bring them after 2 years

[native lark]

I see

[verbal forge]

thats why saving stuff here is kinda just luck based

you know they are gonna bring some stuff from clasic

but u dont know when or what stuf

[native lark]

Fair point

[verbal forge]

like i want raku and scarlet as carries here

lilith can say nah fck u

and they come after 2 years

[crimson imp]

Why does this happen?

[robust spire]

Shalltear>Albedo>Ainz

Priority most likely ain't changing

[native lark]

That’s what they said?

[verbal forge]

no just a example

no one knows what heroes comes

[native lark]

lol ok

[verbal forge]

i personaly think they just pick a random select number from google

and call it a day

[robust spire]

Crassio and Nevanthi came sooner

[native lark]

Even Sonja lol

[robust spire]

So safe to say devs are just spinning wheels

[verbal forge]

but they are not really new

they are like 2022

[native lark]

So they added year one heroes and rng the other ones?

[verbal forge]

newest hero for now is crasio

who was early 2023

so i dont think we will see the new heroes from afk very soon

[proper timber]

Is there a signature item tier list?

[oblique trellis]

How we can get the spirits when the destiny summons ends after 27 days ?

[dusk mulch]

what overlord champion ahould i pick

[faint nest]

Shaltear

Only Today

[winged leaf]

Some good setups with ainz?

[worldly sapphire]

Stargazer

[meager kiln]

If I get another copy of shaltear can I use it to upgrade the one I have?

[wide hill]

Yeah but don’t do it yet

Oh you mean from buying?

[dusky portal]

Do I have to be the same server as someone else for a team up?

Also same question but for guilds lol

[covert hawk]

yes

[meager kiln]

Yes

[crimson imp]

I like this server 🙂

[worldly sapphire]

Report it in #bug-reports maybe you are muted ?

Using Ainz in arena of trials, I love his ult, just vaporizes everyone

[autumn vale]

who’s better a L+ lyca or M+ shalltear

[mint mist]

Heavily situational. Depends on the fight, game mode, teammates, etc

[broken glade]

honestly companions is so doomed to fail

[dusky portal]

@broken glade then why are you playing it lmfao?

[broken glade]

idk was hoping they would have learned something from arena

[dusky portal]

I’m enjoying it and so are others 🤷🏻‍♂️ prolly just not ur cup of tea

I’d take this over classic any day but that’s just me as I said

Should I hoard these for when new characters drop? Like will the selection update?

[broken glade]

chest wont get new heroes

I might be quitting @pallid wedge

[wary cave]

really? ainz still lowest?

im prob getting ainz anyways he's too cool looking 😭

[broken glade]

idk if dims are even worth it

its legit like building any other celepogean

[robust spire]

Do it for the community no one has really tested him yet

[robust spire]

Facts but yh AFK Arena was the only game I know that gave free collab units 😅they finally decided to make money of it

[sonic isle]

Ainz looks cool, but him kinda needing si30 and a5 puts me off 😢

[dusky portal]

@wary cave as much as I love ainz shaltear just feels busted

[robust spire]

Other games will give you a copy and need 10 or more to max sad to see AFK follow that step

[broken glade]

well u could buy them in arena as well

[wary cave]

ive already finished shaltear

im going for ainz next over albedo

[broken glade]

could legit just buy shalltear for 15 euro there and just link with a 5* and she is done

[dusky portal]

@wary cave oh yah for sure that’s what I wana do too

I keep hearing u need albedo for ainz tho so idek

I’ll prolly try to do all 3 if I can

[robust spire]

Simple bro 😅 then SI ain't an issue either thanks to lab
Only thing left is E30 and 9F

[broken glade]

e30 is legit free these days

[dusky portal]

Do I need to be in the same server for guilds/duo btw?

[broken glade]

and furn just takes time

unless u wanna card it

[dusky portal]

The guilds on my server are kinda meh

[robust spire]

Nice let us know how he works I'm saving Spirit core till I see someone actually test Ainz

[broken glade]

can only be in guilds from same server

[robust spire]

Albedo just needs mythic

[dusky portal]

Dam

[wary cave]

bet ill lyk, tho i will say its gonna be a bit before i do since im not spending for him

[dusky portal]

I’m rank 6 in arena rn and the top guild didn’t wana take me :,(( lmao

[wary cave]

just gonna get spirits over the course of 27 days

[robust spire]

[dusky portal]

Hopefully a spot will open up soon

[wary cave]

i cant wait to run flora talene shalltear in arena defense.

[robust spire]

[broken glade]

lacks dmg tbh

[robust spire]

Stall comp slap in Solice and Nevanthi

[broken glade]

think i will skip ainz and albedo

[robust spire]

[broken glade]

might as well just start hodling for next dims

[robust spire]

If they keep releasing dims this way you'll get enough to get all, skipping Albedo don't make no sense to me

[broken glade]

we get 1 copy of each free

[robust spire]

It's a month long event and months to save in intervals

[broken glade]

nowhere near enough

420 summons for 3* shalltear and thats with all free souls we got as well

[robust spire]

If you ignore the other units in destiny scrolls you'll easily save enough by next dim

[broken glade]

also just giant waste of si mats tbh

[robust spire]

True it's a cash grab system to favour the spenders but f2p have a chance and it's sacrificing get other new units and wait for them to show up in summon pool

[broken glade]

[worldly sapphire]

Do they have A Talene ?

[silver arrow]

Definitely

[robust spire]

I'm gonna be real I lost hope on Companions already went back to Classic AFK Arena they have to reconsider the upgrade pattern for Dims and putting them in SG is the dumbest thing ever because no one in their right mind would go for them there with the requirements for getting Cele/Hypo wokes

[silver arrow]

just can't use the awakened version and the normal at same time

normal talene is better anyways

[broken glade]

[worldly sapphire]

Heard you can use both, someone tested on classic and could use both

[robust spire]

You can't use both on the same team

[silver arrow]

you can't

[robust spire]

Different formations yes but same team no

[worldly sapphire]

Got ya

[silver arrow]

not even in diff formations

[broken glade]

diff teams u can for sure

[robust spire]

You can

[worldly sapphire]

They tested it and confirmed it

[silver arrow]

in classic if i use ashem in team 1 i can't use normal shem in anything else

[robust spire]

Have you tried or just assumed

[silver arrow]

tried but ill check again

nvm then it works

[grizzled parrot]

Why 420 summons?

[silver arrow]

it took me 300

[broken glade]

thats how many it took

[robust spire]

Lucky you

[silver arrow]

my first pull was a double and the 3rd pull gave a single so i had pretty good rates at the start

[robust spire]

It took me 510 same as a guildie to get enough for A5

[silver arrow]

then i kinda went to pity for the rest

[wary cave]

well i mean we get every hero for free

ill just keep pulling for souls lol

i wont be really "skipping" her

[robust spire]

What good is one copy

[wary cave]

you only need 1 copy

and then u can build her later if u want

u can summon souls from stargaze now as well

[robust spire]

And pull souls from SG bad move

[silver arrow]

i think a5 is overkill

it just gives reduced dmg from summons right

[wary cave]

yea ik, then ifnot that just save destiny pulls/gems for next rotation.

[robust spire]

It is I stopped at A0 still have 10 cores waiting for Albedo

[wary cave]

took me 500 even as well

[silver arrow]

theres not many heros that use summons and its not like she needs it

[wary cave]

kinda sus ngl

[silver arrow]

oh

[wary cave]

i only did it because asthetics and 5* looks nice

[silver arrow]

im not doing anymore summons till the counter thing resets

gotta make the most out of the free copy u get every 60

[wary cave]

counter thingy reset?

[silver arrow]

like the milestones for summoning

the thing that gives you a free spirit every couple summons

[native lark]

Oh yea A5 is overkill

[robust spire]

Works at just A0

[silver arrow]

id do 1* min for the shield

just so she can survive better vs stronger stuff

[magic lichen]

https://activity-afk.lilith.com/global-afk-LB-H2410170/

[native lark]

This

1* and I stopped doing her

If anything ainz wants that 5*

[silver arrow]

u should get the 3*

[robust spire]

I plan to go to A3

[native lark]

15 seconds in his passive procs

Rather than 50

Btw do u think he has longevity in companion seeing as he died in classic

[silver arrow]

no

i doubt they'll keep doing only balanced heros

powercreep is kinda inevitable for a game so he'll fall off

all you need to make him useless is a hero that can do aoe dmg or target backlines

or cc a team

[native lark]

Fair

I remember he lasted for a while

[broken glade]

ainz need si30 and 5*

[native lark]

1 athalia and he’s dead no?

Unless they also have Hendricks and albedo built or something like that

Cause I remember he was using something like Arthur PoP albedo and Hendricks in classic

[broken glade]

i was playing both but honestly I feel the same

[cinder dawn]

is there any point in going for ascension over mythic. Mythic unlocks the sig weapons so its good to go for that does ascension unlock something new as well or is it just stats

[swift depot]

just stats

its either M or A1 / A3/ A5

[coarse forum]

eventually engraving

[swift depot]

???

[swift depot]

I am also let down by this approach to Dims, but I have hopes we will be able to get this Dim spirits fromlab shop once that gets implemented

[dusky portal]

Is it worth activating mishkas sig item?

Or nah

[silver arrow]

Yes

I activate it on everyone who can

Only cost 10 and for some heros it’s a pretty big boost

And even when it’s not it’s still worth since it’s so cheap

[dusky portal]

Ah ok

Also celestial are on the minor scroll summon right?

Noble*

Pulled orthros awhile back and can’t tell if I was tripping lol

[wide hill]

Yup

[dusky portal]

Ok ty

[wintry tartan]

How do i summon other heroes

[silver arrow]

its based on your classic account

if you don't have one u can't do more u gotta exchange for hero soul stones in top right corner

[wintry tartan]

But i do.

I got a ascended daimon

[silver arrow]

is it linked

your classic and companion account need to be linked

[wintry tartan]

How do i unlink my current one with that one

[silver arrow]

its a 1 time thing so you won't get anything diff by linking it to this account since u've done it already

[wintry tartan]

Ah so i fucked up.

[silver arrow]

ye

[wintry tartan]

Worth restarting over or na

[silver arrow]

no

u can't link it regardless so theres no point in starting over

[wintry tartan]

Oh aight

[echo fjord]

Why is there two server ?

[dusky portal]

Hm confused how I’ve been playing and leveling the overlord heroes without updating the app apparently lol

Ig I forgot to

[wide hill]

We need next awakened

[silver arrow]

companions is new

[mint dove]

it's not gonna happen soon , they want us to spend our money for dim first

[wide hill]

Nah I don’t think they want our money after seeing the Shalltear nerf from classic to companions lol

[slow umbra]

For those on earlier servers how often has the spire event been run?

[swift depot]

every ~21 days

[gloomy comet]

Did shalltear get a nerf on this version like thoran or something

[silver arrow]

yes

[lament spindle]

What is difference btw classic and companion ?

[remote canopy]

nah, wtf is this

combined beast with less attributes than the one I used lmao

[magic tree]

happened to me too

lol

major scam

[gloomy comet]

It gives you that ghoulish gallery rng you’ve been missing

That’s not just a missing stat nerf that’s also a nerf to 6 factions lol

Right? It’s not that it’s an effect that is a bonus to maulers it’s only active for maulers and a nerf to the other 6

[mint dove]

we don't even have a dimensional pet ~.~

I have 7 option owl with very bad stat

[robust spire]

Merge
4+4
5+5
6+6
Higher chance that way to get higher stats

And yh it's gonna take forever

[worldly sapphire]

I merged a 4+4 yday and got a 4

So bad, takes forever to ascend a pet

[unkempt kindle]

yeah bro, forget these long term goals I want it all instantly

u will get it eventually calm down

[broken glade]

thats why i say pet summons are garbage once u have all pets ascended

[pallid wedge]

Garbage? I don't think

[worldly sapphire]

Get what, the same lvl pet that took me ages to get 2 of the same, including money. No, don't tell people to calm when it's obviously a bad way of doing it

Would you say the same if you tried to ascend a hero to A1, but the hero stayed the same at zero stars

[unkempt kindle]

totally!

now stop whining

[worldly sapphire]

You stop whining about people whining 🙄

[unkempt kindle]

deal

[broken glade]

[worldly sapphire]

No whining remember

Not even emoji whine

[broken glade]

oh well dont have mythic owl anymore

[worldly sapphire]

That's suicide..

[pallid wedge]

[broken glade]

ik

[magic tree]

You can just pick owl instead of the 7 skills snow one

[robust spire]

Some people still simping and saying "it's not bad just wait" "you'll get it eventually it takes time" "stop whining you can't get it all now"

[broken glade]

well its same with the dims

[robust spire]

#companions-chat message

It's not like we gonna get a woke dim

[broken glade]

yep

[robust spire]

So why would I prioritize a dim over a Cele/Hypo in SG

And SG are extremely hard to get

[broken glade]

its 10 cards a week from arena store only

[pallid wedge]

@broken glade

[broken glade]

[pallid wedge]

you and I are the same

[sterile monolith]

Devs said anything about how we get dim spirits after they leave divine pulls?

[agile cedar]

stargazing

[hollow flume]

[unkempt kindle]

yea im simping calling you all out for ur crying, legit the only thing u guys do since launch is just crying about the game thinking its an active mmo you're playing, its a gacha money grabbing afk game, the sooner you realize the sooner you will not be considered dumb

[robust spire]

Everyone knows it's a money grab stop acting like it's all good you probably spending but there are people who spend more than you who still say "Hey I get this is how things are but could you improve it a little" stop d riding the devs like you gonna get an award or something like "Hey there man thanks for sucking up to us here's a gift code looking forward to your continuous simping"

Some of us just call a spade a spade unlike you who looks for every opportunity to jump right in a conversation and scream "hey I'm spending do the same"

[remote canopy]

oh hell nah

[robust spire]

Nice I'm close 😄

Si10

[unkempt kindle]

so butthurt

[robust spire]

You wish

[unkempt kindle]

awaiting ur next whiny comment in a couple of hours how everything is bad and ill comment on that too dw

[robust spire]

Stay close it'll be sooner than you expect

[simple quail]

Lilith is known for testing how much predatory they can be to earn more money, and if the backlash is big then make some concessions

If the idea is to accept the current situation, then this model can only stay or be worse in the future until their next cash grab idea

[white kettle]

Hello, can you write the active gift codes?

[robust spire]

Eggxactly if more people express their dissatisfaction the more likely something is done.
I don't see the point of going against people because they're stating the obvious

[simple quail]

To change things there are two ways: to not spend money (this is the more direct one) or express the dissatisfaction

And as companion is not being covered in both Reddit or YouTube, we have only left discord to express us

[verbal forge]

why do people even complain about spending in games like this

this is a game without ads , this is how it stays up

thats how all mobile game works

[simple quail]

That doesn't mean that people should accept anything from Lilith and worship them

[verbal forge]

only way a mobile game survives in revenue its either spamming ads or spaming discount offers( even if value is shit)

no one is forced to buy anything

mobile gaming is not comparable to pc / console

imagine if every game on mobile cost money to play

[simple quail]

That is not the point of this situation

No one is saying that should be free

But classic dims are way better than companion

They are just jealous of journey revenue,that's why companion has been made

The current model is really predatory, I don't know why you want to accept it , but It could be ok if we have any passive income of spirits

And the solution should not be just wait until other dim

[verbal forge]

mosy likely there will be other ways to get those in future , they are trying to deviate from clasic

u got aw heroes free for example who are more valuable then dimensionals

[queen solar]

Wait Awk Heroes are more valuable than Dimensionals?

[verbal forge]

most dimensionals are hot ass clasic

they were good before aw heroes existed

wait till we get abelinda , etc here

[maiden hare]

awk heroes are x5 more valuable than any hero in game rn

[verbal forge]

dimensionala are nice to have when you dont have other options

or when you actualy a fan of that colab

or the hero is actualy good

like shaltear

[worldly sapphire]

Even Awakened Talene? Someone said normal Talene is better then A Talene

[verbal forge]

nah

[maiden hare]

we dont talk about A talene

[queen solar]

🤔

[verbal forge]

atalene is very good is just that we cant use her

[worldly sapphire]

Lol

[verbal forge]

i dont think any whale has talene

[worldly sapphire]

I asked the guy who has transcend Talene, but even he does not have A Talene yet

[maiden hare]

she would be good now looking at the state of the game but she is indeed the worst awk heroes out there

[verbal forge]

wait that guy was that stupid

to was 10 copies on 5 star talene

before getinf another celestial

[wild turret]

Is it worth using gazer cards for the new dims mats? Or should those be saved for cele/hypo? I have 1x mortas already

[maiden hare]

if you whale it doesnt matter /s

[worldly sapphire]

Maybe he had 5* her already but bought more Talene packs when the event was out

Is my guess

[verbal forge]

for now dont use them on spirits

u have 1 month of pulls

with dias

we will most likely be able to get 2 heroes ascended and with stars

[maiden hare]

its not worth it, upcoming cele/hypo will be stronger than the dim we have now

[wild turret]

Cool, I've just saved all gazer cards apart from the 10 for 1x mortas so that's fine

[verbal forge]

if you dont have talene

you can use them safely

[maiden hare]

if the dont want to power creep the game totally the would release max Lucretia as next hypogean and she would be worth it

[simple quail]

You get 4f awaken free, for cele/hipo is much worse than classic approach

[verbal forge]

lucretia wouldnt work here

[wild turret]

Wait should we pull for 1x talene copy as well as 1x mortas?

[verbal forge]

cuz she would need 5 stars

[maiden hare]

true forgot about it

[simple quail]

Not for 1 talene cop

[maiden hare]

but they can give her that buff on 1*, believe

[verbal forge]

talene is safe to build cuz forked fate exists

[simple quail]

Probably, but they are not currently announced, so we need to discuss the current situation, so maybe this will happen

[wild turret]

but presumably only if you're going to build fully

[maiden hare]

she works fine at one copy there, I wouldnt say that its safe to build her for f2ps, better to stack cards and w8 for some broken unit

[robust spire]

Best option would be getting Talene/Mythic Mortas or saving what ever path you take be it Hypo/Cele be ready to commit to one first, the faster you get 5 As from either faction the better

[swift depot]

we will likely get AEzizh as first Hypo Woke, so not like we losing much, I would rather focus on good units on the celehypo side rather than focusing on their woke

[next crater]

which dimensional should i be getting? F2P

it looks like ppl saying shalltear, just want to confirm

[swift depot]

f2p you should keep ficusing on getting 5A per faction

[robust spire]

Do you

[mint mist]

Best F2P advice is probably to hold off and see how they really end up.

[mint mist]

Holding off for 1-2 weeks won't hurt. Let others really test them. If you're F2P you're probably not holding any top spots anyway.

Should be the same on a new server. If you build the wrong one you'll just get left behind slower.

[fervent phoenix]

Just started 2 days ago. Which hypo-celes should i focus in stargaze?

[swift depot]

Fall off on what?