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pearl juniper
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kinda yeah

jade gull
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wrong ping oooops

pearl juniper
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thinking more CR focused atm since where else really is abel? xD

jade gull
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gotcha. could do ts too

pearl juniper
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TR I merc for her, NC I don't use her

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TS is well....

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somehow 61% atm at t61

jade gull
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ts/cr has slight differences in terms of stats but u just gotta take what u get so no point of trying for a perfect collection

pearl juniper
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atm I have this amazing specimen

jade gull
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lol

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what pity r u at?

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lvl1?

pearl juniper
pearl juniper
jade gull
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gotcha

untold ferry
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Abel just crit, atk, mp, dr right?

jade gull
jade gull
pearl juniper
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where do I see this? never heard of it before

untold ferry
pearl juniper
jade gull
pearl juniper
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oh didn't know this was pity

jade gull
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the only reason ud need mp is like ae or something

jade gull
untold ferry
jade gull
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u needa use 20 L before unlock

pearl juniper
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but people say don't use L before reaching a pity khasosrun

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I'm miles off, 3 runs at least

jade gull
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u cant reach pity without using it lol

pearl juniper
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exactly

jade gull
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best is too run 1 gold until u unlock lvl2 basically

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the trash gold ones

pearl juniper
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I have 1 swag in the bag

jade gull
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no swag

pearl juniper
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definitely saving the swag

jade gull
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yeah save

pearl juniper
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got 4 ERRs tho

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would I wanna pity before them?

jade gull
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run those errs on support collection yeah

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pity em

pearl juniper
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use them to reach pity?

jade gull
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yes

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one at a time thou

pearl juniper
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naturally, u can't put 2 on the same coll

jade gull
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not using w. other golds

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yeah

pearl juniper
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might make some tasis for this then

jade gull
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for sure. thats what i did

pearl juniper
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iirc my TS teams are running an awful lot of vaults

jade gull
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great for most supports in cr

pearl juniper
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purples with em or just blues filler?

jade gull
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ive been running flights (tasi) runs only for support

jade gull
pearl juniper
jade gull
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could run the purple eye ones if u want

jade gull
pearl juniper
jade gull
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yeap

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to maximize getting err collections

pearl juniper
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aight I'll roll with this, hope I get more than 0 mythics

jade gull
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could also do one purple one blue

pearl juniper
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I sure do love swapping rituals to lead

jade gull
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lmao

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i hit abandon and get annoyed until i get something good lol

pearl juniper
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took end of floor 9 to get my first legendary

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insane

jade gull
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ouch

untold ferry
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Sounds about right belovedzikis

pearl juniper
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this is why I don't like gg, I'm gonna go make some nachos and cry

jade gull
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run one purple one blue maybe. the the purple and blue that gives ur stats during the run

untold ferry
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I'll be honest

jade gull
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not at etching

untold ferry
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I actually really like gg

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But I just want to do more

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I just like the pressing

jade gull
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i like crafting em but i hate the rng

untold ferry
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Yeah rng sucks

jade gull
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šŸ¤

untold ferry
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Pressing button is fun

pearl juniper
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yea was gonna roll with this after that last embarrassment of a gold totem

pearl juniper
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well we got floor 4 L DR

jade gull
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🤣

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rngesus

pearl juniper
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ended up with a tank collection treznorsweat

jade gull
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tasi collection on support. so its fine ig

pearl juniper
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yep I think it's food time lorsob

jade gull
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same. watching this is a bit depressing khasosrun

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food time

pearl juniper
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the forbidden support PP

jade gull
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Talene joan likes em

pearl juniper
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got a reroll right after, it turned into f ers lorsob

jade gull
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Not bad actually

grizzled grotto
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Better than PP

jade gull
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Ye

pearl juniper
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this is the best one yet, and it's still depressing

pearl juniper
jade gull
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Pretty nice for support used w. Ers heroes

pearl juniper
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like bert yeah

jade gull
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Or abel

grizzled grotto
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Backup Merlin/Joan collec

jade gull
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Ye

pearl juniper
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maybe better than this one I have on Ivan?

jade gull
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This should be on someone else

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Try running an err/atk collection for ivan

grizzled grotto
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Ivan doesn't need IS, he mostly wants PRF or Atk%

jade gull
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This^

pearl juniper
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just fulls

grizzled grotto
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The other one treznorsweat

pearl juniper
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this is my bert btw khasosrun

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I heard erosion was good

jade gull
grizzled grotto
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As long he isn't with spooder

jade gull
grizzled grotto
jade gull
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U can overcap?!

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I thought ers is like is

grizzled grotto
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It's 90 max, spooder is basically 80

jade gull
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Ughhh

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Ty for the heads up

grizzled grotto
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More of a CR concern tbf (esp on AwBaden)
Because you won't have time to max spooder stacks in TS and link 1 shots anyway

jade gull
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Gotcha. So too much ers on abaden in cr w. Spooder basically caps it

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1 mythic prob enough then

grizzled grotto
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1 M is slightly overcapped but it'd be fine for the time before you fully stack + 1 L is undercapped anyway

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Spooder's used with AwBaden for every CR other than Idre

jade gull
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More like 2L then? Spooder is abt 80 by utself?

grizzled grotto
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Well you'd still rather 1 M than 2 L kHAHAsos

jade gull
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I prefer but dont always got the choice homegalul

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Collection is sad

grizzled grotto
next palm
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will i regret selling collections from meh runs later or is that ok?

grizzled grotto
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There's virtually no reason to, but it also prob won't matter either

next palm
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the diamonds are nice for me rn luciussweat

lofty viper
pearl juniper
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?

young stone
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Why is the one shiny what does that mean

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The hp thing

jagged lynx
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im guessing

young stone
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Okay damn first time I get one of these

wet citrus
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Yep M+

agile delta
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how do you even get err?

remote crane
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The legendary totem that gives it

lean iris
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This is for atheus

remote crane
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@late haven Pardon the ping, but what do you think would be the best first collection to blow custom cards on and get perfect?

late haven
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probably at least a little mode dependent

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where are you trying to improve

remote crane
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Part of why I ask is that as a f2p it feels like it takes a long time to set up a chance for the "perfect" collection so I would want something broadly useful. But I would say I care more about PvE like CR

late haven
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Not gonna try to narrow it down to one but I'd say whoever has the worst collection between abel, dae, bert and palmer

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palmer in theory has a better return on his stats than the same stats on your actual carries

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just a question of whether he's used as much

remote crane
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Alright, genuinely very appreciated thanks isathumbsup

late haven
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Good luck

remote crane
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Ty

obtuse violet
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This "Level" is the Level that u get by Exploring Ghoulish Gallery, right?
like the lvl of the collection where the max is 10?

grizzled grotto
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No, it's from Skill +1
Collec lvl and skill lvl are separate

obtuse violet
grizzled grotto
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I just said it's from Skill +1 treznorsweat

obtuse violet
mint patio
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do the attemps on the wishlist mean that you can take only 1 totem from the wishlist per week?

mint patio
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i put the purple level up totem in, and didn't get a +1 skill in the end, is it chance based?

remote crane
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Yes only guaranteed with the gold one

grizzled grotto
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+100% is double base chance, it isn't guaranteed unless it literally says it gives it

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It's still rare at +200% chance

long hazel
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Has anyone tried ivan + eorin cuz Dman they crazy good duo

full ember
long hazel
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It is a NEEEED

jade topaz
zenith vault
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Eorin Ivan? Never tried

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I loved watching Ivan and oden do work

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Or mulan

steady condor
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didnt get a single extra lvl up when i did like 10 runs with extra slot + more chance but now i get 3

grim cairn
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Is this already good for Abel?

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What the other L for rem?

ionic crane
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what collection is broken at +2 skill?

remote crane
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Wings really wants it for CR I know

kindred bronze
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which one

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for rem

scenic bough
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is a yellow full ers or purple ers better for liberta?

stable socket
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Purple, should be

hasty marlin
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🤮

exotic fractal
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or what is ER lol

grizzled grotto
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It's full vs single, full has low numbers because it's partywide
ERS is erosion

lament scarab
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Who would use this?

pearl juniper
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me

grizzled grotto
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A sorcery hero

remote crane
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Daemia maybe

coarse cradle
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am i just unlucky every collection i get is straight ass

primal scaffold
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what should i do in gg as a newish player

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it feels so complicated

hollow jolt
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Works ig

hollow jolt
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I recommend tasi collections

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Luminous flight

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Cause you need quite a few of them and the stats are less important than ones for your carries

primal scaffold
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if i dont have a tasi copy what do i make

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also should i use my rare totems

remote crane
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Only use 1 gold at a time and I wouldnt use them at all until you have a good feel for how the game mode works

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Odens collection is good for most mages

primal scaffold
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should i buy the rod things from the shop

hollow jolt
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No

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Unless you're kraken

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With basically unlimited gems

jagged lynx
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do ur wokes first

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and liberta

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liberta, abel, atha, rem and ashem(do ashem last)

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just go for stats that are good for them

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double skill lvl up is very rng

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not worth

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until it’s a very good collection

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u use the atk/def and lvl up card on a good collection worth it

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if ur talking about totem cards

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not how it works

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u need good stats inside the collection too which is more rng

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for totems cards u use miracle worker and farewell gift only

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any purple

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an all blue run is fine too

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no

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don’t do a 2L run as f2p

remote crane
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wait till the pity buff for using 2 golds is active

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The little icon above where you select the collection

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click it

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you want the level 2 buff before using 2 gold

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wishlist should generally be those 2 and then whatever else youre looking for, energy is good because you cant get it normally. Crit and MP and PP all good

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Yeah just use whatever ones you have that arent great. Mass crowning, Final Descent and Sturdy Shield are all pretty medium

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I would only bother combining purples into gold probably

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A good idea is using the gold totem that gives erosion on a luminous wings, aiming to give it to Liberta. He likes erosion but the totem isnt great for too many other heroes, and he doesnt care much about skill level

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good way to likely get a solid collection spending one gold

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no, spend one at a time

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if youre making something that really wants +2 levels yeah

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I personally would rather use purple to combine into golds (except the purple skill lvl one). But yeah use blue

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yeah that looks good for her. with 2 blue

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when you get a lot maybe but thats pretty slow, mostly just use your blues on runs

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always do it, its better

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yeah you can its not really great stat on her though

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just atk honestly does a lot, cda good too yeah

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some MP too

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lets you add a stat of your choice at the end. save them for when you have a like nearly perfect collection with moracle worker on it

remote crane
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Would this be ok to chuck on Atheus for now?

jade gull
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sure

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he like prf/is better but int so mp works

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and its 2* collection so solid

remote crane
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This is an old AShem one I think, just sitting in bag

jade gull
remote crane
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Atheus is the first non awakened int tank. Thats a fun pointless fact

jade gull
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and hes better than the awakened one

remote crane
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well one of the awakened ones

jade gull
shut cloud
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Good for anyone other than ashem?

grizzled grotto
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Any Fort, the ATK doesn't do anything for AwShem so (it only affects her normals)

shut cloud
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Thanks

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Guessing it’s fairly decent for her with the hp though?

grizzled grotto
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The HP is good, you do prefer Watch for TS but a high stat Bond is still good

shut cloud
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Thanks bud

strong tapir
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what do i want on rowan?

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im early game

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i assume trader vault? what stats tough?

grizzled grotto
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Rowan doesn't really care because he doesn't really scale any stats. Full Atk or ERR for offensive and w/e the best defensives are offered

strong tapir
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what do you mean by scale and whats err?

grizzled grotto
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Scale as in, he doesn't use any meaningfully. ERR is literally what it's called in-game, it's in the stat page for energy recovery rate

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Basically just chuck w/e leftover Vault you have on him because it doesn't matter much

strong tapir
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where do i find this list with stats and their shorter names?

pearl juniper
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pinned

strong tapir
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cant find it

pearl juniper
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neither

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I couldn't find all 1243498 guides pinned of which stats on which heroes

strong tapir
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im not asking what stats on what heroes

pearl juniper
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there is no list, it's common sense

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u can find in game what stats exist

strong tapir
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im looking at one of the pinned guides and it says DR, i have no idea what that is so im asking where that list of skills is

pearl juniper
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in the hero info

strong tapir
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im nopt able to get out of the interface

pearl juniper
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then look ingame on the stats list and see what starts with D and R

pearl juniper
strong tapir
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i have to choose a stat to swap

pearl juniper
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well what do u know, google works

strong tapir
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sorry for using the channel it is made for

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why have a discord is you just expect everyone to google

pearl juniper
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this channel is made for optimising questions, not answering questions that could be found with the top result on a simple google search khasosrun

pearl juniper
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not for answering basic questions sir belovedzikis

strong tapir
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well, i still cant find DR anywhere on that page

jovial canopy
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@pearl juniper Where did the universe come from and whats its overall purpose?

jovial canopy
strong tapir
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guess wiki is out of date a bit

strong tapir
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ctrl+f reduction
no results

pearl juniper
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it's Damage Resist anyway lol

jovial canopy
pearl juniper
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it's these two combined into one stat

shut cloud
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That was a painful read

fair gate
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too many stats in this game

coarse cradle
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ts funny 🤣🤣

bleak locust
royal oxide
hasty marlin
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@jade gull does that pin guide from you has any new updates?

hasty marlin
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ye

jade gull
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That crazy dude made a detailed info graphic about which stat EVERY hero benefits from…..i didnt have the courage to translate it yet lol

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Superb guide maker he is!

rich socket
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armor stat helps thiccen ivan's shield right

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i got a swap node and im wondering if getting another red armor is better than getting red F.atk (this for flight)

jade topaz
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You are trolling

late haven
# rich socket armor stat helps thiccen ivan's shield right

it helps but its a weak stat even so, its just got poor numbers, id never actually aim for it even if its BIS for his defensives simply cuz any offensive improvements are more impactful and a good defensive could make it great for someone else or still perfectly good on him

analog jacinth
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Ashem piece?

ionic crane
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is ghoul gallery basically a place to get more equipment? I do not understand

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How long does it take to get a collect

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Ok I read it

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It says I complete 10 floors then I get it

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My invisibility keep going down but I’m not losing

grizzled grotto
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It's a random event to lose some, it doesn't matter you won't fail anyway

ionic crane
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ok

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I ended w 1 invisibility bc towards the end they were just overpowered but still beat it is that supposed to happen? Or that only happened to me

grizzled grotto
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After you beat floor 10 ten times you get sweep anyway

jade gull
jade gull
hollow jolt
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...

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Making alyca collection

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Got mythic def

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Reroll to erosion

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Reroll to buffer

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Reroll to def

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Reroll to hp

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Reroll to erosion

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Finally a swap but I got no pp or atk

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Best I got is f atk, cda, or ty

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Ahhhhhh!!!!

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I guess cda...?

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Lol not wasting a card on this

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Lol yeah I think purple levelup is a scam

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I should just stick to 3 golds so i can at least have good chance to make something decent

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if i put gold pp/dmg resist totems i bet i get something reasonable

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🤮

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guess left is better

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..

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interesting they value +1 on time control so lowly

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wouldnt dealing 90% of naroko hp to enemy be pretty good?

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or maybe they just valuing more IS/PRF more peggythink

hollow jolt
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Lol does game bug out after every gg run this patch for everyone else too or just me?

tidal breach
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It did bug out for me, after gg but in another menu. The Back button didn't work but all others did. I rarely have bugs.

hollow jolt
zealous forge
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So for Ashem is bondage with hp and mp??

jade gull
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yea

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hp priority thou

zealous forge
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Hm...so she doesnt need offensive stats?

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Like F.Att, Crit?

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I think this should be good?

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I can over that blue hp to put deff 6.7%

jade gull
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ouch. dont put both mp and pp lol

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this is quite sad of a collection unfortunately

zealous forge
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Then i should put only HP, MP and DEF?

dapper crow
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got this for liberta, is the +1 skill level better even thou its missing def perkt

young stone
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what artefact is good for AW shemira and what stats are good for it?

jade gull
remote crane
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I thought Shem wanted watch?

jade gull
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depends

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pvp all peeps want watch pretty much. cr uses bondage

grim cairn
young stone
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Thanks

bleak locust
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Just found this in my bag.. any tank that needs a lot of atk?

royal oxide
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Veithael

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AShem too

grizzled grotto
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AwShem doesn't use ATK other than for normals

bleak locust
bleak locust
royal oxide
hollow jolt
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i think that would work for daimon?

bleak locust
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If daimon was meta

hollow jolt
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I mean

bleak locust
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Early

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Game

pearl juniper
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he's got 1 CR round iirc

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so he's not really meta

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he's just extra

hollow jolt
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Late game you would probly want +1 on that collection shrug

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I really like the time stop collection on naroko, though maybe daimon one is better for campaign, idk

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Cant really burst the enemy in 3s in campaign

blazing patrol
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what collection to have on brutus thoran and rem?

jade gull
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thoran doesnt need collection

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brutus is fine without one as well but u can give em watch ig if ur running him in ts

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rem typically uses dancer but cover could be good for her in ts

pearl juniper
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just an extra thing if u have the main ones already

jade gull
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yeap

blazing patrol
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what about for campaign,just use artifact?

pearl juniper
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doesn't really matter

bleak locust
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I only have him 209 lmao

jade topaz
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Shud tell the advocate of lower level tr who admire him like a god

pearl juniper
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I used to use him

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not so much anymore now that I'm above floor 400

royal oxide
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Grez is definitely one of the tank heroes of the game

digital quail
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theres so many guides/sources for collections - which ones the most reliable to follow?

wise hill
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what would be good stats for Vika as a carry?

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Attack, MP, Crit?

bleak locust
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Well she isn't mage so PP us better then MP.
She prob wants atk, cda and crit as atk rolls.

grizzled grotto
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Vika is sorc wdym treznorsweat

bleak locust
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Fr?

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Thought she is warrior tank

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Well don't build useless heroes

jade topaz
hollow current
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For Rem, what kind of stats should I aim for?

grizzled grotto
bleak locust
amber anchor
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Sorry, but can someone clear something for me or am I missing something. I am trying to get lvl 2 collection and I used these 3 totems: Miracle Worker (+1additional slot)+ Farewell Gift (1skill lvl at the end lol)+ Supreme Skillset (skill lvl increased by 100%). I ran it 3 times and my result was +1lvl for two of the collections and no skill lvl at all for the last one. Is that normal to get 0 skill lvl even if I use these totems?

near seal
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Which one should I use for liberta? I have the one without mythics equipped cause that's the skills a guide told me liberta needed but would the one with 6 mythics be better

pallid hamlet
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who would this be most useful? It's my only one where I've actually got any decent support stats

remote crane
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Jerome maybe?

bleak locust
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But that one has the best stats

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The butterfly arti u want if he days in normal mods to fast or pvp mainly

pallid hamlet
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kk thanks

ionic crane
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How about this? What hero could I use this on?

jade topaz
jade topaz
kindred bronze
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with not a single swap i got this

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shame theres no skill level 1 but ynow

charred wind
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Too good stats for a rare/epic totems

torpid delta
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@ionic crane Belinda but damn you were close to greatness...that defence tho

waxen mulch
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Is there a limit to how many custom scrolls that can be used at the end of a run? E.g. can I use a custom attack scroll + a custom skill scroll at once?

fierce venture
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f2p only 1

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u need the pass to use 2

bold turtle
pearl juniper
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blues...

zinc swallow
fair raptor
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Which hero is this best for?

high saddle
terse pond
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Who can use this?

remote crane
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LDV?

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Not the most used hero but he can use those stats decently

hoary hare
pearl juniper
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damn rip

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also don't use ur lvl ups like that, it's a waste

jade topaz
fair raptor
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Okk thank you.

analog jacinth
zenith vault
viscid sail
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what to do with a mage collection that has a ton of erosion and full erosion

pearl juniper
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Daemia probably

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ABel could benefit perhaps

remote crane
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tough swap decision

ionic crane
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Which to put on AwLyca?

ionic crane
ionic crane
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Is there a away to delete collections?

zealous forge
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So for Ashem is enough MP, HP, DEFF?

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Should I change something for Ashem? I know that att isn't that good, but don't have anything better

grizzled grotto
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Better off just using it on not AwShem
Don't get too stuck on making collec for someone specific when the stats don't line up

zealous forge
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Then what should i do ?

grizzled grotto
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Just put IS or PP and use it on someone else

zealous forge
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Like who? I ve saw that few are using this collection

grizzled grotto
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Bond is a CR collec to begin with, most use it there

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And virtually all use Watch in TS

zealous forge
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Hm...

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Then like this and use it on CR?

grizzled grotto
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The DR is still good

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Oh it's still there nvm

zealous forge
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Yeah, just put IS there instead of 7% att

grizzled grotto
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Just use it on Naro ig

zealous forge
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Okii, tyy :3

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And for Ashem i need HP, DEFF and MP only, no others stats if is possible?

grizzled grotto
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Well you can swap who it's equipped on if you need to anyway

grizzled grotto
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PRF might affect her a tiny bit but it'd only be smth you'd pick if you had no other choice but already had lots of MP

zealous forge
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hm... i still dont understand very well how many of them do i need, like i.g 1 HP 2 MP 3 DR and so on, or only 1 of each, idk

grizzled grotto
#

Well there's your number 1 ideal stats but you realistically won't be able to only get them

zealous forge
#

Indeed

grizzled grotto
#

And if it gets too many stats that don't help the hero you're targeting but help someone else, you're probably better off making it work for that other hero

zealous forge
#

Fair enough, and for Ashem Spell bondage is the best for her on TR/Campaign?

grizzled grotto
#

She isn't used in any TR I think, idk what's better for camp but it probably doesn't even matter

zealous forge
#

Oh, TS* sorry

grizzled grotto
#

For camp I'd probably just use whatever had the most M stats for the most cmbr
For TS you definitely want Watch

zealous forge
#

I dont have Orthros for Watch

grizzled grotto
#

It's kind of the same for all Fortitude

zealous forge
grizzled grotto
#

Well if you can't make Watch you have no choice then treznorsweat

zealous forge
#

Yeah :))

grizzled grotto
#

But Watch is pretty much better for every Fort in TS

zealous forge
#

Alright, tysm again astarnomnom

zealous forge
#

What needs rem? Only Pp and CRIT? šŸ¤”

pearl juniper
#

and atk, check pins

zealous forge
#

On the first one pinned it say only PP and DR. I've didn't check the second one

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But thanks isathumbsup

ionic crane
torpid holly
#

Whats the best totem combination for runs?

jade gull
torpid holly
#

Thanks alot, will search them

jade gull
jade gull
#

Collection totem usage guides
@hasty violet could u pin these two here? Thx. feels like ive seen many peeps asking abt it

hasty violet
#

the 2nd one I sttrongly disagree with saurus not needing the +1

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if anything that's all saraus collection needs, more important than stats

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and ATK is for sure not >>> CDA >> MP/PP etc. areyouseirus

cinder arrow
#

2nd is pvp only though right?

hasty violet
#

since all heroes get a fat environemtnal stat boost, which dilutes any %atk upgrades they had big time

#

CDA also just sucks on heroes with low crit

jade gull
#

its a guide. theyre not too bad....

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u gotta take all guides w. a grain of salt anyways

hasty violet
#

I guess yeah

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would be something to link them to

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but not something that should be added to bot commands imo

jade gull
#

yeah def not to bot commands. just link is fine. or pin here

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bot commands prefer to keep it as accurate as possible

grizzled grotto
hasty violet
#

it's cool that they are sharing the guide with everyone

jade topaz
hasty violet
#

you don't like the guide, or the fact that they shared it?

jade topaz
#

Guild politics , i rather not comment further

#

Also this

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But i already made my comment clear

fair gate
#

we need more ways to get totems

pearl juniper
#

buy the staves from store

bleak locust
#

Worst value

hollow lodge
hasty violet
#

Lv2 is a damage multiplier

#

Which is instantly better than all additive stats like atk and hp etc

#

Unlike CDA, this additional cannot be blocked by CDR or diluted by capping out on CDA

#

It's just an essential skill to have

#

Easiest way to test is just get a red PP lv 1 saurus and compare it to the default +1 saurus they gave us

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PP is already the best stat you can get on saurus collection, yet it's not really close in damage boost

tiny mist
#

What collection should i worry on first

next palm
#

question about arcane staff availability... as far as i can see the only way to get it is by doing gallery runs up to 100 times, and then you stop getting rewarded it. are there other ways to reliably obtain it as f2p? should i be doing runs with no bizarre totems just to build up a supply for mystic cage draws?

remote crane
#

You should be pulling weekly to get your wishlist pull then stopping there. The store for 300 diamonds is the only other way

next palm
remote crane
#

Well you do need to spend gold's to build up the pity system

#

But only 1 at a time

#

And I basically don't use purple

next palm
#

oh i that the custom scroll?

remote crane
#

There's also the system that guarantees mythic skills if you spend gold totems. And you unlock more levels by spending golds

next palm
#

oh cool

tiny mist
#

What should i use on Rem bc apparently there are 2 suggestions, Temporal Cover or Shadow Dancer?

hollow lodge
hasty violet
hollow lodge
#

oh I see, didn't notice it before due to the placement.

hasty violet
#

Yeah just look for the double diamonds

hollow lodge
#

What boss/hero are you using it on?

hasty violet
#

Or stars ig

hasty violet
hollow lodge
#

and what's the damage difference?

hasty violet
#

So that one I'm just using on sub dps like abrutus

hasty violet
remote crane
# tiny mist Jacko

For general use shadow dancer. Esp since you get a free one with skill +1

#

Man I really wonder how new players should prioritize a copy of saurus and Tasi and athalia and zolrath etc

tiny mist
tiny mist
remote crane
#

I just mean they aren't priority heroes but you need a copy for their collections

hollow jolt
hollow jolt
#

So you're wasting lots of time you could be spending making actually useful shit

#

And then when you finally do get one that's better than the free one, you decide to spend 3 gold totems and a red card and make one that lays the one you made to shame.

#

So yeah it's very low prio

tiny mist
#

I have a skill thingy for a free level? i think

hollow lodge
tiny mist
#

i def gotta be careful with my uses to get a proper collection built

hollow jolt
hidden summit
hollow jolt
#

Like 1 or 2 10 pulls

#

No reason to do extra

#

You get plenty of blues to use

hidden summit
#

i thought there was a higher pity

hollow jolt
#

Oh if wishlist isn't unlocked yet, then spend until that unlocks

remote crane
hidden summit
#

got it, thanks

narrow cipher
#

Is there a good way/method to easily clear the 10 floors ?

grizzled grotto
#

It's easy to begin with

remote crane
narrow cipher
#

don't care about faction boost ?

#

ty

white bloom
#

i need collection guide pls

jade gull
#

check pins

wise hill
#

If I go Oculus on Vika, what stats you think for her?

bleak locust
#

She seems pure dmg so atk/cda probably

wise hill
#

She gains IS with her sig

bleak locust
#

She has cc??

#

Never noticed

#

Not even in the trail

#

Would still go for atk/cda

wise hill
#

fair enough, thanks

hollow jolt
#

Gonna try for naroko collection I think

#

IS, PRF

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And atk

#

Damn I had only 1 orange at floor 10 🤣

#

Saved at last sec

#

Thinking red insight card maybe ok?

full ember
hollow jolt
#

Yeah I didnt

#

Got 2 naroko collections now

hollow lodge
hollow jolt
#

That's one build for her xD

#

I have one with tons of erosion already

#

I think more of her power is in her CC tho, so I want an IS collection

#

XD

hollow lodge
#

I mean her only erosion based ability applies a debuff on the hero to take more damage

hollow jolt
#

My naroko in campaign atm tho

hollow lodge
#

so you want other people to get the erosion, not necessarily her

hollow jolt
#

36-48

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I thought most of her dmg is lifeloss from the sand shields?

hollow lodge
#

Any full erosion hero obviously will do fine with erosion, but it's better for lorsan and naroko to have full erosion as they perform more of a support role than a damage role.

#

Yes, but when abaden attacks someone with sand shield, does the health loss use abaden's erosion or naroko's erosion?

hollow jolt
#

Well yeah that's why I wanted to make a more supportive collection for her

hollow lodge
#

and the answer is that it uses abaden's erosion...

hollow jolt
#

I got the double red erosion one on 3 blues 🤣

hollow lodge
#

so you put full erosion on naroko.

hollow jolt
#

It was just rng

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Picked those cause I got nothing better

#

Wait the sand shield applies erosion of others? Are you sure?

#

I assumed the sand shield is why her dmg is so high

#

Which would imply it counts as her dmg. Same with emilia

#

Emilia si40/50 give erosion too and there's no way in hell she does that much dmg without the life loss from her ult counting

hollow lodge
#

Yep. Ivan shooting someone with sand shield uses Ivan's erosion (which is bigger on the left).

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583k vs 565k health loss.

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Naroko isn't the one initiating the damage anyway, it's Ivan doing the attacking.

#

and in case you want to do any math, it's identical collections with legndary Erosion vs legendary full erosion on the right.

minor ravine
#

so, uh

#

how does this mode work? I've never touched it so far

#

okay, I read through this a bit, what 3 totems should I choose for my first exploration? and what collection?

pearl juniper
#

triple blue, vault

rustic hearth
#

how do i revert my discord

#

this is gross

fast lance
#

What does err means?

remote crane
#

energy recovery rate

silk rock
#

Does ahem want a ton of hp?

pearl juniper
#

yes

silk rock
#

Guess I'll let it go more lol

hasty violet
#

if you can get 3 M+ HP, get 3M+ HP

bleak locust
#

And it does so good

cobalt frigate
#

hey guys, what's DR and what does that cross icon mean

pearl juniper
#

damage resist, that cross usually means scroll down and check footnotes

#

like, irl

cobalt frigate
#

what should i pick instead of DR?

#

uh this is for the dancer colection

jade gull
stiff mesa
#

Does this mean that I need to wait till it’s reset to pull? Meaning if I were to pull I would not get anything of the wl? Or does it mean that reset is only for changing WL?

supple venture
#

If you pull now you will get any random L totem

supple venture
#

If you pull in 11 hours you'll get from the wl only

minor ravine
hollow jolt
#

XD

minor ravine
hollow jolt
#

Luminous pretty good in campaign

supple venture
#

Campaign homegalul

hollow jolt
#

Lol he's ch 31

#

Might as well make some cheap collections for campaign early

#

Luminous is game changer in campaign, even with shit stats

supple venture
#

Cheat death good

stiff mesa
#

Thanks Veri

supple venture
deep knot
#

Who at lilith thought putting a cooldown on a wishlist is a good idea? its literally nowhere except it gallery

jade gull
#

good question feelstreeman

jade topaz
civic geyser
#

Hello. Stupid question and probably not easy to answer. Which collection do you think is worth it to Level2 (only talking about skills not rng bonuses)?

I have those LVL2:
Shadow dancer
Judgement armor
Oculus diabolus
Other are LVL1 and bunch of LVL0 of course

Which one would you recommend me as next LVL2 choice. I am focusing on high level campaign pushing (deficit 300+) and I am not sure which one would benefit best. Those 3 are definitely strong and helpful. Thank you for your opinion!

young stone
#

Is good?

remote crane
#

Are wings the best thing to lvl 3 in general?

tame topaz
#

Is this usable

jade topaz
remote crane
jade topaz
#

Lv 3 wing is hot garbage but its good when your hero having problem surviving interaction

#

There is better effect lv 3 but like lv 3 wing its very situational so its more context thing not really

remote crane
#

I thought lvl 3 wing was big in CR/NC

jade topaz
#

Only a few - surviving interaction in this case abel when she throttle cr dmg

#

Since cr has an enrage

remote crane
#

I see

#

I suppose I misunderstood the reason it was important

#

I just dont know where I should miracle work when Im ready to miracle work

candid oak
#

are the guides in the pinned for pvp or campaign

wraith walrus
#

maybe look at them

ruby flame
#

would this set be good for a bert run?

candid oak
wraith walrus
#

sorry man but the first guide you see has a whole column that says the game modes

candid oak
#

dude

#

im so tweaked i wasnt looking at the first doc

#

the title of the doc did not resonate with me that it was a stat guide but like more of guide to the collection system

#

honeslty i was looking at the one steve pinned and couldnt find which gamemodes it was for

wraith walrus
#

yeh that’s fair i wonder if they added that first page later maybe

remote crane
remote crane
#

You want to do runs with one gold totem at a time to level up the pity system

ruby flame
#

ah

#

what should my totems be then?

remote crane
#

click the little symbol above the collection

#

usually want to do a gold and 2 blue totems

ruby flame
#

does it matter what gold

remote crane
#

Yeah you want to use your worse ones before you unlock the first pity at 20 golds used. So thats usually like sturdy shield and piercing blade first. The class ones are also kinda meh

ruby flame
remote crane
#

Then just use ones that give what you want for the hero youre aiming for, but save miracle worker and farewell gift when you can

ruby flame
#

i think i have 20 unlocked alr?

remote crane
#

ok yeah you have the first level of pity

#

so yeah just use a good totem that gives results you want

ruby flame
#

still 1 gold 2 blue?

remote crane
#

yeah until the second level of pity

#

then you can do 2 gold

ruby flame
#

ight

#

thanks for the help

remote crane
#

each level of pity cares about how many golds you use. So you have the pity that works for using one gold now

ruby flame
#

ahh

remote crane
ruby flame
#

is this alright for wishlist?

remote crane
#

yeah seems good, just always have those first 2 basically

ruby flame
#

which would be better for bert?

pearl juniper
#

top, it's just objectively better

thin moon
#

What does my WL have to look like?

#

Miracle Worker, the lvl up skill and 2 of my choice or are there specific ones i should go for?

jade topaz
#

Miracle lv - any 2 stat u want to focus on

granite fern
#

It's painful that I have 0 good attakc rune but daym this is enough for Ashem prob

bitter harbor
#

who would this one be good for ? still don't really feel like I fully understand erosion and buffer yet tbh

wooden thistle
#

emilia gavus daemia

#

maetria

#

emilia prob your best bet in terms of accessibility

granite fern
#

Which better for ashem?

stiff mesa
#

Who could I use this one on? I’m a bit behind on tank collections Only one is ashen using this mp hp one . Naroko and grez are using free watch and bondage given in beginning with no mythic. (Don’t have orthos to pull watch as per pin)

sour turtle
#

Zolrath's collection skill doesn't work against Kane, that's a disappointment.

grave jolt
#

Is there already solid guide/info about wishlists, leg runs, priorities etc?

#

I haven't used any leg totems yet also I have stopped pulling since wishlist unlocked

jade topaz
#

Not generally but big guild do

grand temple
#

Is this the updated guide for what collections I want to?

granite fern
#

thats old

grand temple
#

What did u follow for yours

granite fern
#

just look at the unit and what it needs then prio those stat xD

#

example ivan , you want high attack

grand temple
#

I see so that list is still somewhat accurate then ? About stats they want

granite fern
#

necro have one try looking at the pin, for some reason mines sdoesnt work

grand temple
#

That one seems to be the only one I can find in pins ^

granite fern
#

here also

#

both good

grand temple
#

Thx

deep knot
grand temple
#

How?

runic tundra
#

What’s best wishlist

sacred cave
deep knot
#

i think the game likes full

sacred cave
tawny flower
#

full blue totem run for awshem, not bad?

bleak locust
#

Decent

tawny flower
#

swap the flex DR for a blue MP node?

bold turtle
tawny flower
quiet field
#

Best collection for Liberta?

viscid sail
#

Which for Rem?

pearl juniper
#

second

jade topaz
tawny flower
jade topaz
#

Only the Hp portion you gave is usable

tawny flower
#

Hmmm. Any idea why Kaia has put MP as the offensive nodes in the latest pinned guide?

jade topaz
tawny flower
jade topaz
#

Offensive stat for AShem is a hassle

#

Since MP give like a bit more value offensively but her bis isn’t mp

remote crane
#

That is impressively bad. Keep in mind the single M def is from pity that's not one bit of even ok luck

sour turtle
#

Does this mean that every half a second the effect gets triggered? I have only seen it activate once and I can't say for sure it works.

wooden thistle
sour turtle
#

Ah I see then, thanks!

wooden thistle
#

No problem my guy isathumbsup

gilded hollow
#

Which cele/hypo next? Zolrath I assume?

#

Or the vampire guy?

bleak locust
hollow lodge
# gilded hollow Which cele/hypo next? Zolrath I assume?

This channel is for collections. Did you want to ask what collection is best for those heroes?

Mortas should get lots of HP simply to have more HP than Naroko. Otherwise he does work okay with full erosion for his greed share, but it's a pretty minor damage boost.

hollow lodge
gilded hollow
#

Nah I posted it in the wrong channel

ionic crane
#

is this good for liberta? erosion confuses me šŸ’€

viscid sail
#

it's quite decent although Trader's Vault is a better collection unless he is dying very fast

zenith vault
#

If you're not at the point he gets oneshot you got more pushing to do

ionic crane
#

I have these two collections? Which one should I use for Belinda?

remote crane
wise hill
elfin bloom
#

Captive wings or oculus diabolus for lady Simona? And what are the priority perks for her belovedzikis

grizzled grotto
#

Wait for wl reset next week

rare turtle
#

What's the best coll for atheus?

ornate compass
#

is this usable for oculus or am i missing out on something major

jade topaz
rare turtle
#

Thanks!

ornate compass
jade topaz
#

Def does nothing

ornate compass
#

noted, ty

hollow jolt
#

its 3 secs or it isn't, no?

sour turtle
#

I think I have it on Grezhul, can't recall if my Naroko is built(as in ascended yet)šŸ˜›

wooden thistle
hollow jolt
#

says 3 seconds clearly

#

OH

#

I see

#

if you have multiple copies on same team its less

wooden thistle
#

every 0.5s that time is stopped, skill deals damage

time stops for 3s max, pending modifiers

#

yes

hollow jolt
#

yea no point to run multiple afaik

#

naroko is only one i use it on

#

cuz that burst is ungodly, especially with emilia

wooden thistle
#

stack is/prf

jade topaz
wooden thistle
#

must be nice

jade topaz
#

Yeah fk those kraken

wooden thistle
lunar sorrel
#

This is every god damn run of this stupid mode I've had in a nutshell.. no sense in using my Skill Lvl totems, those runs don't go much better. Anyone else just hanging onto shit until they make some changes and burning blues every week?

jade topaz
#

blinkinglucius i use bad totem to test rng and get bad run - bc i see other ppl have real good luck

lunar sorrel
#

I can't see stomach the amount of RNG required on these runs lol id rather get one good collection on dookie totems a month than risk the terrible feeling when you save them up for a few runs of the same old garbage with a +1 tacked on lol

hasty tinsel
#

How do I get more temple of time stuff

#

Oops wrong channel

remote crane
#

any ranger in particular that like prf and IS?

dark sage
#

This run was just blessful

pseudo plover
turbid bobcat
#

Would legendary attack be best on the third slot or mythic full erosion for liberta? Should i use the mythic card and add mythic att on this?

turbid bobcat
#

I know full erosion is worse than erosion as he is the one who wants it, but is it worth taking over attack?

turbid bobcat
#

Whatever im taking the mythic its too tempting to resist šŸ˜›

sour turtle
jovial jackal
hollow lodge
pseudo comet
#

hey guys, i'm trying to learn about this mode but still very confusing.. so I was trying to build one for Ivan, is this good?

jade gull
#

Its solid~

pseudo comet
#

so a good collection is better than artifacts?

remote crane
#

Yeah in most places. And collections can be used in a bunch of places artifacts cant

ivory remnant
#

Which is annoying

zealous forge
#

Wich one should be better?

#

Nvm, the first one is better

ivory remnant
#

Which collections want +skill levels?

wooden thistle
#

support rowan3
mage mehira3
mage oden3
ranger atha3
warrior zol2
warrior saurus2

solely based on skills unlocked imo

#

maybe daimon2 also...

scenic bough
#

thoughts for emilia?

grizzled grotto
#

It's fine but you'll easily be able to get better
The +1 on Ocu is pretty minor

jade topaz
#

I have never seen such a useless i mean yeah def super good

scenic bough
#

oh okay lol thanks

barren spear
#

What do I want for veithael

pearl juniper
#

Watch

pearl juniper
#

well u can only do zolrath it looks like

#

and that's best for pvp anyway

wet raven
terse flint
#

Is this permanent buff?

pearl juniper
#

that's not a buff

#

that's like a furniture scroll

#

it's a 1 use item u can use

terse flint
#

I know but I didn't know how yo call it

#

So, I can use it only once and it disappears

pearl juniper
#

yes

terse flint
#

This makes sense, I was wondering how can Lilith allow us such a thing to be used more than once

grizzled grotto
#

If it was infinite use it'd only unlock after like 200 L totems spent homegalul

terse flint
#

200 is too little in my opinion haha

fair gate
#

the scroll doesnt vanish if u dont use it

#

it gets stored in the vault

grizzled grotto
runic tundra
#

What are the ideal totems for hunting for a good collection for liberta

neon frost
torpid delta
#

Whose this good on? I was thinking Trish?

ionic crane
#

Which one of these is better for Liberta?

remote crane
#

second I think

haughty orchid
#

Is this one good for lyca

pearl juniper
#

L LL

remote crane
#

Who would want ERR the most

kindred bronze
#

mehira or oden collection for liberta?

pearl juniper
kindred bronze
#

oh wait he's a support LMAO

#

schizophrenic

plain reef
#

Am i doing something wrong why does everyone have 4 mythic collections while my best is a 3

haughty orchid
#

How do I get more of the collection things?

pearl juniper
#

3 a day from store

pearl juniper
#

this is my ABel coll, it's decent

plain reef
pearl juniper
#

my next best is lavatune

plain reef
remote crane
#

anyone whod want a temporal cover with PP IS Prf? Tamrus?

pearl juniper
#

tam wants high is and prf yeah

remote crane
#

cool hes got it then

fair gate
#

collections are so rng

stiff mesa
#

What collection does Ivan want? Flight or vault?

elfin bloom
stiff mesa
#

I’m dumb.. missed that planning tab. Thanks!

pseudo comet
#

guys does this mean that is suggested to have skill +2 on oculus?

bold turtle
#

ye

viscid sail
#

I ended up with my only mythic being armor on a trader's vault - is there ANYTHING I can do with that or should I just sell it

bold turtle
#

eh if all other stats are good you could put it on ivan if you got nothing better

#

otherwise just sell

viscid sail
#

that's my current collection on Ivan

#

vs the Armor one

ionic crane
#

Anyone who this might be even remotely useful for?

stiff mesa
#

Is first one better for liberta? Or is the +1 skill that important?

ionic crane
#

He doesn't care much for that skill level.

#

So, I'd go with first one.

tame topaz
#

Swap for Daemia?

pearl juniper
pearl juniper
stiff mesa
pearl juniper
#

But yeah first is better because of the erosion

stiff mesa
#

Ok thanks!

velvet rain
#

what card i need forABelinda ?

pearl juniper
#

oculus

scenic bough
#

do i switch? for awthalia

hoary hare
hoary hare
marble plover
#

what does this mean?

wise flare
#

so in general would a +2 with mediocre stats or top tier stats +1 be better?

pearl juniper
#

Stats

#

Depends which coll ofc

#

A lot of colls only need +1, like dancer

#

Vault does need 2 tho

shy ore
#

Can you turn previously owned collections into +2?

#

Bc I got this but I think it need +2

mortal anvil
#

negative

shy ore
#

This is the worst day of all time

mortal anvil
#

you can sell it for 100 diamonds and invest that towards a new one (don't do this)

shy ore
#

You've peer pressured me into this now(you're a monster)

lament pilot
#

what collection does AwThane need/want?

remote crane
pearl juniper
#

He's not listed for a reason, bad hero

ivory remnant
#

Is this good on anyone? I tried to make an abelinda collection and didn’t get a single attack up to drop the whole run

grizzled grotto
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Better on smth like Gavus/Mae/Dae/Emi than AwBel, but ERS still works on AwBel

ivory remnant
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So out of those gavus would want it most?

trim flare
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What would be a good ALucius collection?

young stone
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Can I put this one on Rem?

pearl juniper
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Very good on Rem for PvE, or AAthalia

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It's a pity that's PD not PP tho

young stone
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Why isnt it goog for pvp?

grizzled grotto
pearl juniper
young stone
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Oh you're right, thought I'd go full damage and it would be fine

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I'm f2p so I'm not super competitive anyway

grizzled grotto
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Realistically you won't be able to get a good +1 cover anyway, more of a whale thing

rigid granite
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Is this good for Crassio?

spice wren
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Who would this best be on? I have it on Abel but was wondering if someone else should have it

grand temple
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How do y’all get so many mythical n skill ups for your collections