collections

[sweet folio]

Classic lilith

[indigo sequoia]

Saving swag till after unlocking lvl 2 (or if super patient / p2p, lvl 3) makes sense - but why save the trash ones? Any reason not to start using immediately?

[grizzled grotto]

Well you have to use trash to even reach it

If you save all you just get 0 progress on it

[sweet folio]

no reason, but also no reason to do it now

i'm waiting to see more abilities

cause there will surely be more collections in the future

[indigo sequoia]

Yeah makes sense.

[grizzled grotto]

My guess is new wing in feb around CNY

[indigo sequoia]

Any idea about this? From description it sounds like you can apply a desired stat by using the custom scroll, at the end of a run, when etching… Does it just add one additional stat to choose from?

[grizzled grotto]

You just pick it at end

When you get one you can see the UI, it's pretty clear then

[indigo sequoia]

Got it, thanks!

[hollow cedar]

1 decent one this week at least

[sweet folio]

nice for naroko

[hollow cedar]

Tempted to e61 for is

[sweet folio]

don't you have like 5 things to e60 first

[hollow cedar]

Yea and +1 more bc I miss clicked auto engrave on olg

Mishka looking like a good reset frfr

[sweet folio]

I said that months ago smh

[hollow cedar]

Yea I'll reset her most likely then e30 someone and e60 Luci/vei/dae

[late haven]

I'm considering ideal stat layout for Aath. I would like to avoid ATK because it's weak or useless in multiple modes, and I would like to avoid multiple collections for her cuz I don't think the alternatives are so much worse than ATK as to be worth swapping (in modes where ATK scales well).

I'm thinking triple CDA due to how it scales and how high Aath's crit rating is. After that I'm undecided between +1 skill and crit rating, or +2 skill. Do we feel like that sustain from +2 skill is impactful in enough modes?

Feel free to lemme know if you think any of that is the wrong play, still in early planning stages.

[remote crane]

Liberta: thoughts on swapping an erosion to F atk?

[late haven]

I feel like in general if you are going for something thematic you should stick to it unless its something that caps out like CDA can (situationally).

[cedar moth]

what col on eugene?

[late haven]

so if you are going for erosion I would stick to erosion, since its almost certainly BIS for most CR rounds

then if you decide that erosion is weak in some other circumstance you can swap collections

[remote crane]

yeah I guess part of the question was how good is erosion actually on him

[late haven]

there are CR rounds where his erosion does like 20B damage

its unclear to me how high impact it is in pvp- my suspicion is its worse there

[remote crane]

well let's make an erosion one then thanks for input

[late haven]

[remote crane]

We take those for 3 blue

[remote crane]

Want to do a crit/lvl/Miracle. 3 gold. ALyca seem like a good call? Belinda has a pretty good one already

[late haven]

are you a spender or f2p?

[remote crane]

f2p

[late haven]

ah okay, I'm not an expert on that. if you were a spender I would tell you to make sure you have the pities unlocked and custom cards ready for a fully blinged out run but I don't know what is optimal for f2p.

I just ran this for liberta

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1176585043322347530/1193377639411486770/image.png

[jade gull]

im a spender but going f2p with collection so far. i only run single L totems until i unlock the lvl 2 pity where im gonna run my swag runs (2L runs)

[remote crane]

I guess I should use a meh gold to get the pity unlocked first

[jade gull]

yeah thats what im doing

[remote crane]

sturdy shield seems expendable

[jade gull]

yeah i used that one up

[remote crane]

as a f2p I don't draw unless my wishlist is available, thoughts?

[jade gull]

available meaning u draw until u use up ur wishlist attempt?

thats what i do

[remote crane]

yeah

[jade gull]

🤝

[remote crane]

[torpid delta]

ATK isn't good on Athalia??? Huh?

[late haven]

Not for the modes I am prioritizing: LC and Rift

collections dont multiply the stats you get from trait enhancer in rift (which is 99% of your stats) so ATK, HP, etc have no impact there.

collections also don't multiply the flat stats from elder tree, which is a huge % of your stats in LC. Even 3x mythic HP is only the difference between 10.5m HP and 11.4m HP.

[remote crane]

Thats an interesting tidbit. I dont bother pushing Rift past 300 and get smoked by a whale every group stage but that is good to know

[torpid delta]

My pain focus is TS With abit of CR

But that makes more sense, thank you for explaining @late haven

[late haven]

Start of an idealized run planner. To be clear this is only meant for planning card use on already great runs, which is why there's almost no alternative picks listed.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U72wGSZDAvZLDqnwyBfUTs1kS-oqM9bNhjN2rncj5Xo/edit#gid=0

Ping me with any feedback you have on my picks so far

[hollow jolt]

Think I'm gonna make something for jerome and I can use it on rem occasionally ig

[hollow jolt]

Cda caps?

[hollow jolt]

Huh

Weird curve they give it but OK

Why vault over luminous on liberta?

[remote crane]

I took a lot of twaeking but I think I......like Ghoulish Gallery now

[hollow jolt]

My liberta is squish af without lumi

Well w/e I think I'm gonna do that 3 gold run for jerome xD

Wish I could do judgement armor but no athalia 😦

Ugh

Hate it

But it kindaaa works on rem ig..

Sort of

I should just went prf so I could use it on tarnos

This thing is insane on tarnos tho

[late haven]

Because the cheat death triggers simultaneously with the cheat death from luci's e60 and none of the +skills on lumi will apply consistently from liberta since he has no IS

and since this is a carding reference for maxed kraken runs, it assumes you have everyone well built XD

[hollow jolt]

Wdym cheat death?

I don't see any death blocking in his kit

[late haven]

luci's e60, not bert's

[hollow jolt]

Oh

Ok

Lol I should make my own collection wishlist so i can better adapt to goofy situation where I cant get my primary choice stats like my last one

It's a good idea

Actually what I made seems pretty good for zolrath 😮

[hollow jolt]

3 blues op

I mean..

Wish I had better reds but I'll take it ig 🤣

[hasty marlin]

🤮

[velvet terrace]

should i use these rn?

i got lucky and got two level ups

or should i just save them?

[rare turtle]

Save them

[prime igloo]

This good for ashem right?

[sweet folio]

i thought she wanted hp and not atk

[prime igloo]

Didnt get any hp at all tbh

[stable socket]

Both good, depending on which collection you’re using and what level it’s at

[gleaming smelt]

Are these two any good? Should I use them? Maybe liberta /palmer ?

[jade gull]

palmer rly wants vault

liberta would work

asol/asaf not bad either

[gleaming smelt]

What is vault?

[remote crane]

rowan's collection, trader's vault

[gleaming smelt]

Okay, thank you.

I am currently following this with cr focus, because cr and TS are nearly tge same

Is this guide any good?

[jade gull]

for the most part its solid. just some of the stuff is a bit iffy

[thin moon]

can some eli5 this for me? 🤔

[jade gull]

use L totems and get custom scrolls and pity system activated

[thin moon]

so for each yellow totem you use you get that bar full?

and those cards can be used when exactly? 🤔

[jade gull]

u need to have used up 9 L totems to get the first custom scroll

u can use custom scroll when ur etching (where u slot in the stats)

[thin moon]

on another note: the bottom part is a passive you get once you consumed 20, 40 .... l-totems?

[jade gull]

yes

both r passive

[thin moon]

it's a conumable so only useable for 1 collection? 🤔

[sweet folio]

yes

[jade gull]

yes

[sweet folio]

but you can get more, once you get 36 that resets again so just 9 more for another

but for f2p very slow to get

[thin moon]

so I'd actually want to get that 3rd passive using the "worse" legendary totems and then use my saved up good totems to craft a decent collection? 🤔

isn't upgrading blue/purples then better instead of randomly using them? 🤔 (even tho the exchange rate is horrible)

[jade gull]

depends i combine some totems but not all

[hasty marlin]

🤮

[vague sun]

@jade gull

[jade gull]

Close to 20!

Y dont u run two 1L runs and then do one awthalia tun

[vague sun]

I also have a choice card

[jade gull]

Nice!

[vague sun]

What to choose though

[jade gull]

I only get miracle worker with that so

Idk what else

[vague sun]

Ah o

Shall i sacrifice the ERR

For 20L runs

[jade gull]

I sacrificed my err/crit

Yeah i did that

[vague sun]

Kk

Brb

[jade gull]

[viscid sail]

for ABel, red LL or orange MP?

I know LL is a bad stat usually but it's red vs orange too

[stable socket]

MP

LL always sucks

[viscid sail]

not bad for a one-orange-totem run

[vague sun]

Its nice

[viscid sail]

awkward attempt at an AShem run

I wish more tanks used erosion

[hollow jolt]

What does it mean by insight bad?

[hollow jolt]

Naroko and daimon love erosion

[slender hill]

I thought Naroko IS and PRF?

[hollow jolt]

Yes those are higher prio

Erosion is far from a dead stat on naroko tho

Her sand shield does life loss and it's a substantial part of her dmg

I been getting some nice 3 blue collections lately

Just got that for scarlet. It's not perfect but I'll take it

[grizzled grotto]

Movement CCs ignore TY so IS does nothing for it

[grizzled grotto]

Erosion on Scar lets her deal more dmg to allies

[hollow jolt]

Oh so it's not like IS is BAD. It just doesn't help. Ok

[hollow jolt]

Good thing I got full buffer

Lmao got 2 red atk again the very next run

[hollow jolt]

Think life leech will heal liberta much?

Meh

Oh I'll take blue cda ig

I should went prf derpp

😭

Prf woulda helped ivan and he's probly the user :c

[grizzled grotto]

LL kinda sucks

[jade gull]

i was playing around w. LL cause i got one M LL collection (had no choice....)

tried it on several heroes....does whack

[chrome lagoon]

Good for anyone ?

[kindred bronze]

3 blue totems for naroko 😄

[jade gull]

Nice~

[tawny flower]

doesn't look half bad

[hasty marlin]

🤮

[grizzled grotto]

Phys pierce works on a grand total of 0 sorc

[hasty marlin]

is this mode still not deleted 😦

[sweet folio]

dude's building for a future mage don't worry

[torpid delta]

Too much rng for this mode to be taken seriously

[remote nebula]

There’s no reason to believe that quick explore is worse than manual right

[sweet folio]

some ppl say it, idk

i doubt it

[late haven]

It would take a massive amount of data collection to make a meaningful argument for it, and thus far I don't know of anyone having bothered. I certainly wouldn't, I've gotten plenty of great collections using quick explore.

[grizzled grotto]

It's just voodoo, people have said the opposite too

[remote nebula]

Yeah I tried a few to test it out and my rolls were SIGNIFICANTLY better than my results with manual today

Thank god, I didn’t know that feature existed

I’ll actually do the damn thing every week now

[late haven]

🎉

[late haven]

Yo S1x have you got any particularly math based approach to deciding on optimal totems for runs? potato seemed to think the class based totems are actually underrated based on a comment or two of his but hasn't followed up on that so I was gonna see if anyone else had put much thonk into it

I added a totem section here if you wanted to give any comments or be added as an editor

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U72wGSZDAvZLDqnwyBfUTs1kS-oqM9bNhjN2rncj5Xo/edit#gid=0

@sweet folio too if you wanna get nerdy

[sweet folio]

honestly even if it's worse I'll still do it cause fuck that mode

[sweet folio]

I like being nerdy but everything about collections turns me off so I don't really care about optimizing it

[late haven]

🫡

[grizzled grotto]

I haven't tried running any actual calcs

Availability is a bigger limiting factor so I didn't think about it much

[late haven]

[sweet folio]

every week the mode looks worse and worse

i hate it so much

[grizzled grotto]

I liked it more before sweep and explore

[late haven]

Masochist

[grizzled grotto]

The more people dislike it, the more they ignore it, the easier it is for me
Better to have a benefit for just yourself than for everyone

[sweet folio]

I'm pretty sure I'm falling behind bc my collections are bad

idk if I can do anything differently tho, not like we can do swag runs until we get at least 40 L totems used

[grizzled grotto]

All my good collecs are on test

Somehow it's got a bunch of my best ones despite doing 1/3rd the runs

[late haven]

Most of my best runs were on friend accounts 💀

[stable socket]

All my good collections are in the distant future

[tacit depot]

What do you guys think best for Mulan(TS only) between these 3?

[full ember]

does anyone have a list of what each mythic+ totem gives ?

[ionic crane]

Is this relevant after implementation of guaranteed mythic abilities for legendary totems?

[sweet folio]

yeah, with the only caveat that you should save your good legendary totems (for swag runs) until you have burnt at least 40 bad ones to get the buff

[tacit spruce]

which collection should i choose if im just clearing generically? whats the most flexible one?

[jade gull]

try to make more mage and support collection then

[tacit spruce]

between oculus, flight and vault, which should i choose?

i just did a run with flight, so ive got 2 of those atm

im just trying to do 1 more run to get the +1 shadow dancer for rem

answered my question

then again im only getting level 1 so idrk

seems like sandstorm and timeline watch are the only 2 valuable level 1 collections

[jade gull]

all of em have some value at lvl 1. its a matter of how many heroes u can equip em on so it can do something for ur account (TS specifically guessing ur a newer player)

[indigo sequoia]

Which collections have high impact lvl +1? (To get value out of lucky blue totem runs.)

[late haven]

zolrath maybe the best +1`?

[indigo sequoia]

Gotcha - any others with good +1s? I've been focused more on CR collections, so Zol is a bit lower pri for me.

[hasty marlin]

🤮

[shrewd bronze]

howd i do for emi?

tryna make something for rem. which one do i refresh?

[jade gull]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uNZvPR-b_n5yO8nFhRqfs2sNACBTv3RoYNQd67fTRb0/edit#gid=1239421163

@tidal breach

[tidal breach]

Great, thank you!

[jade gull]

[jade gull]

refresh a purple one. the gold/red ones r decent

[shrewd bronze]

thanks thats what i did (i found out at the end of the run i chose a support collection 😭)

[jade gull]

[gaunt obsidian]

which supports want lumi vs vault?

[grizzled grotto]

They all can pretty much use either
Vault more for CR, Flight more for TS

[eager patrol]

Which is better for Ivan:

[sweet folio]

prob the first but neither are ideal

[shrewd bronze]

which for rem, the free one with skill level or this full defensive one lol

[jade gull]

Free one prob

[shrewd bronze]

:(( ok ty

[hollow jolt]

why are you trying to make rem a collection without the gold +1 totem? Seems like waste of time to me, lol. Even if you flip to left one, you'll still want to make one with +1 anyways

[hollow jolt]

left one is pretty damn good for jerome, though he kind of prefers temporal cover

[shrewd bronze]

i did randomly with no totems, wanted to use up my gg attempts

[hollow jolt]

lol id make support totems with those

[hollow jolt]

right one is better for rem

[shrewd bronze]

i thought i was making rems collection and it turned out to be support collection LOL

[hollow jolt]

use that +48 tenacity one on jerome

[shrewd bronze]

aight

i dont have him yet

[hollow jolt]

he scales on tenacity

but yeah stick with the +1 sd for rem. the one you made is nice, but it doesnt give her more dmg and she'll still explode at deficit

[hollow jolt]

This one is good for liberta

or pretty much any support tbh

[shrewd bronze]

i put it on lib already

[hollow jolt]

nice

[shrewd bronze]

so whos jerome

[hollow jolt]

lightbearer dude

[shrewd bronze]

oh yea okay

[hollow jolt]

he punches people and sends a monkey to pull their pants down

[shrewd bronze]

what do i do with my copy of daemia? finished coveted invite

[hollow jolt]

i mean if you're ch26 then nothing yet

use her for faction tower

[shrewd bronze]

should i have jerome on my wl or keep

palmer is at 9 copies rn

[hollow jolt]

yes you need jerome on there

[shrewd bronze]

ok swap palmer?

[hollow jolt]

no

palmer wants 10 copies

[shrewd bronze]

i got hcp and a hero choice cheat

chest

[hollow jolt]

dont

just swap someone else

[shrewd bronze]

then replace rosaline?

[hollow jolt]

sure

[shrewd bronze]

aight

[hollow jolt]

you dont want to engrave palmer right now im assuming so itd be a waste to hcp him

[shrewd bronze]

but rems linked

so i can engrave rem

[hollow jolt]

abrutus would love left one too, but you shouldnt build him

[hollow jolt]

okay then hcp him, sure

[shrewd bronze]

or chest?

[hollow jolt]

same value, so yeah chest

[shrewd bronze]

lets go to #classic-questions

[unkempt creek]

How do we remove bad collections?

[hasty marlin]

they're all bad

but you can sell from bag>collections if unequipped

[gaunt obsidian]

which purp totems are the best? shld i upgrade any purp into gold?

[cobalt frigate]

how do u get the 2dn lv of the colection??

[supple venture]

Miracle worker

[analog jacinth]

What does lorsan want?

[jade gull]

wings (mae) collection. ers works well for her

[analog jacinth]

[grizzled grotto]

Yeah it's faster

You get lucky

Or whale the totems

[kindred bronze]

is this good for liberta?

[jade gull]

[hasty marlin]

🤮

[late haven]

S1x or anyone else happen to be good with formulas wanna suggest what to plug in for my simplistic calculator on this page?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U72wGSZDAvZLDqnwyBfUTs1kS-oqM9bNhjN2rncj5Xo/edit#gid=1256521947

Also not 100% sure which collection for gavus 🤔

I kinda wanna say Wings cuz he has a bunch of really fantastic team buffs that he needs to be alive to give

Also does anyone recall if this is scaled by PRF?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857329415330725906/1195655136006115338/image.png

[grizzled grotto]

Probably Wings because he has low dmg anyway, but he has low IS for Wings and it probably doesn't make much diff (surv from Wings +1 is pretty minor)

Pretty sure Ezizh silence should work with PRF but I haven't actually tested

[late haven]

hot, thanks

[late haven]

I was thinking about the survivability from Wings +2

[grizzled grotto]

Oh I meant +2, forgot the sac wasn't at +1

[late haven]

[grizzled grotto]

Other than something like Fang that literally doesn't function on all Cele, I barely think about which collec is better because it'll be many months before I have multiple good of each anyway

[late haven]

Collections are so cost effective compared to older power creep like pets its kinda brutal for f2p. Even huge accounts that went f2p are getting rapidly surpassed by weaker accounts that spent like $300 on collections, nothing in grand scheme of kraken spending

[grizzled grotto]

Such is the way of any creep

[idle adder]

It was good until they added that shitty pity thing

From barely better for spenders to stupidly broken for spenders

[grizzled grotto]

Perk store's always been op but explore doubled down on it
Was to be expected though

[idle adder]

They shouldve stopped with cards

Unless they add constant way of getting staffs, going to 80 used legs f2p will be impossible

[hasty marlin]

they shoulda stopped at the decision desk and realized it's 🤮

[stable socket]

Exactly. My account is easily stomping $50k accounts that we’re dancing on my chest 2 months ago.

[sweet folio]

this must be why I'm losing ground in every mode :copium:

[twilit turtle]

hi, this is me! 3% cr malarkey

[hasty marlin]

so should i just be using these (minus miracle/level) kinda at will to level my thing 🤮

[sweet folio]

my plan, no idea what's best, is to turn all purple (except +1 skill) into legendary, then when I have 40 trash L I'll use them to get the ability. That way more collections will prob come out which might be more op to use the legendary on

[hasty marlin]

do you save blues for convert or use 3 every run

[sweet folio]

I'm using 3 blue every run

I think the ratio of conversion is bad and in the meantime I need some chance of decent coll

again idk whats best, just what my plan is

follow what I'm doing at your own risk

I've done 0 math or research on it

[waxen badger]

i convert the blue one called “rewards”, as it’s pretty useless. the other blues are actually not too bad, and i especially like plunder

rewards is terrible tho

[sweet folio]

ok good to know thanks nitro

[plain reef]

So with this new system are we using bad L every run to get the passives?

[jade gull]

thats what im doing ye

[waxen badger]

a lot of the L ones are kinda bad tbh, only a select few make a difference and some of those are also rng

[arctic tusk]

would like to run the best possible run I can to get an OP collection, would like to know information like
a) which totems to use
b) which hero should I do
and anything else i should know

[hasty marlin]

yeah

[ruby flame]

how important is +1 on wings for bert?

[waxen badger]

bert doesn’t use wings

[rare turtle]

[jade gull]

bert can use flight. not wings

[jade gull]

this is the super nice one ei~

[remote crane]

Should I start making big multi gold attempts?

[jade gull]

single gold until lvl 2 unlocked where u can run double gold

f2p way~

[remote crane]

But thats like....the patient way....

[jade gull]

f2p gotta b patient~

[remote crane]

fiiine...

[rare turtle]

[jade gull]

[remote crane]

TY for preaching self control

[jade gull]

[twilit turtle]

flight has wings though

[jade gull]

those r quite confusing ngl

in cn, flight is called "butterfly" and wings is called "charm demon"

[twilit turtle]

appropriate. they look like a butterfly and devil horns to me

[jade gull]

yeap. name from the looks and the hero's cn nickname

[hasty marlin]

use yellows

get trash

[hasty marlin]

then good mythics with blues, but no +level

i hate this more than mustard

[jagged lynx]

so to unlock lvl1 i just use 3 blues? and to unlock lvl 2 i use one gold n 2 blue?

or i use 1 gold straigth for lvl1 and 2

?

[jade gull]

blues. u needa use gold to have progression

ive been using 1 gold 2 blues so far

[jagged lynx]

so to unlock lvl 1 , i use 1 gold and 2 blues?

[jagged lynx]

ic

[jade gull]

thats what ive been doing

u could run more golds if u wanna rush it

but im not gonna

[jagged lynx]

okay using one gold and two blues now

no im poor

[jade gull]

heh

[jagged lynx]

the more golds u use

the progession goes higher?

[jade gull]

i save the lvl+ gold and miracle worker

[jade gull]

yes

[jagged lynx]

1 gold = goes up by 1?

3 gold = goes up by 3

[jade gull]

yes

[jagged lynx]

i see thank you farararararararararararar

[jade gull]

[jagged lynx]

always very helpful

[jade gull]

i try~ yall r friends

[jagged lynx]

[ruby flame]

oh yea sorry i meant the winged support collection lol

[jade gull]

[ruby flame]

but yea how important is +1 on flight for bert?

[jade gull]

hmp

+1/+2 on flight is useful for hero that wants IS

not so much for bert

vault on the other hand is def different

+1/+2 is quite beneficial to bert

[ruby flame]

should i aim for better on bert? or focus on ashem

[jade gull]

the left one isnt bad for bert

u can use it for a long while

[remote crane]

The main accomplishment of this week's attempts

[jade gull]

[remote crane]

and only one gold totem because I behaved

[jade gull]

[ruby flame]

should i do runs to get a better one for ashem then? or do support ones for filler units

[jade gull]

yeah get something better for ashem. id always try to keep a big variety of support collection thou. u need different stuff all the time

[ruby flame]

gotcha,

are there general stats i should be looking for on support ones? or just character specific

[jade gull]

depends on what u kinda get. if u end getting hand on tons of heal, stack heal/mp/atk/full stats. tons of mp? stack cda/mp/atk/dmg resist/full etc.

[ruby flame]

wdym end hand on tons of heal?

[jade gull]

as in when u do the run and you get a lot of heal stat

[ruby flame]

ah gotcha

[jade gull]

[shrewd bronze]

is hp or ty more important for ivan?

some guides have DR TY FHP, others have DR HP FHP

[jade gull]

both r abt the same. i like ty more

varies who u ask basically

[grizzled grotto]

They all barely do anything for Ivan when he's invuln most of the time anyway

[late haven]

Ivan is one of the few heroes who probably really wants Armor, I believe

[jade gull]

+1

[hasty marlin]

🤮

[shrewd bronze]

the guides dont say so

[jade gull]

I trust kaia over the guide ur mentioning

And i also looked at ivans skill

[late haven]

Here's a guide that says so

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U72wGSZDAvZLDqnwyBfUTs1kS-oqM9bNhjN2rncj5Xo/edit#gid=0

[shrewd bronze]

ty

big ass guide, time to do some reading

[late haven]

its not really a traditional guide, there's very little focus on priorities etc

its an exact layout of idealized stats becuase its meant for choosing how to use custom cards at the end of a kraken run

[junior ingot]

Is there any guide how to manage totems as f2p? Should in level that passive buff with random totems or use legendary totems when i have 3 perfect totems?

[late haven]

joux recommends trying to unlock the 40 pity with 'junk' legendaries before using the good ones

[junior ingot]

And are miracle worker and farewell gift the only good ones?

[sweet folio]

i'm keeping mp/pp/err but tbh idk if they're even that good

so I might use them sometime

[unkempt creek]

So +2 skill isnt that important?

I thought thats what everyone is going for

[sweet folio]

i mean I kep those in addition to the others for swag run

[spice wren]

Okay I was wondering what to do here, I have the trade tier ones and i am getting the relic for Jerome and Tamarus (idk which of the 2 it will go to) and because I’m not sure who thiss will benefit more, idk what to swap. Any help is appreciated

[jade gull]

Does it have a lvl up?

[spice wren]

No

[jade gull]

Prob use for jerry then

[spice wren]

Okay, so then swap erosion for green attack?

[jade gull]

You got it~

[grizzled grotto]

Atk is pretty useless on Jero

[jade gull]

He shares atk i though?

[grizzled grotto]

His buff doesn't scale his atk

[jade gull]

Ahhh. So prob is prf better

[spice wren]

What is prf?

[jade gull]

U dont have a PRF stat there. Youll see it when u get one

Prob swap ers w. IS then

[spice wren]

Okay

Ty

[jade gull]

Lemme just double check give a min

[spice wren]

Okay

[grizzled grotto]

Jero doesn't use IS either

Very few offensive stats actually do anything on Jero tbf

[jade gull]

It actually hurts his S3 i think ugh

I have him with full.atk but u dont have a second full atk

Might as well just swap for pp. most mights can use it

Two options. Swap to IS so tam can use it before u get a skill+1 cover. Swap to pp and make it a generally good might collection.

[spice wren]

Skill + 1 means that if I don’t get it from the rest of the run, then it won’t be helpful for tam?

[jade gull]

It will be. Just that tam w. Skill+1 is much better

[spice wren]

Should I get more pp? I have another thing that let’s me make copy

[jade gull]

If ur swapping ers to IS id stack more IS on it

[spice wren]

I went with pp to be safe cuz I don’t trust my rng

This thing

[jade gull]

Id replicate the highest tier

I always do unless im missing some essential stat

[ruby flame]

should i prioritize attack or defensive stats on ashem collection?

[grizzled grotto]

Prioritise MP for offensive, HP for defensive

[ruby flame]

i thought it was full attack?

[grizzled grotto]

Atk only affects her normals, doesn't scale any of her skills

F.Atk is fine too

[ruby flame]

does she do better w f.hp or hp?

[grizzled grotto]

HP

But you take what you get in the end

[ruby flame]

this is good for her right

[grizzled grotto]

Yeah

You want Watch for TS though

But that's possibly still better than a Watch without good stats

[ruby flame]

ah dont have that one unlocked yet

[hasty marlin]

🤮

[bold turtle]

Ashem arti get

[bleak locust]

Flexing here as well

[bold turtle]

Jealous as usual

[bleak locust]

My main account yes

My smurf laughs

[bold turtle]

Imagine geting good collections on an acc that will be dropped

[bleak locust]

Nah will keep it

Just unlocked rc

So no more pain to go through

Can play calm now

[bold turtle]

Inb4 rng on alt is so good that it overtakes main after a year

[bleak locust]

[ornate trellis]

[stiff mesa]

Which one would be better for liberta for now? Only got one lvl up with blue totems, but feel the other ones might have better stats

[jade gull]

the one stacked w. ers prob

[stiff mesa]

You mean this one?

[jade gull]

yes.

u could use the lvl up one from time to time when needed as well

[stiff mesa]

Ok thanks!

[honest lake]

What would be the best totems to use to try and get a god roll for AAthalia?

[jade gull]

armor collection. id wait to run a collection for her until u unlock pity lvl 2. if u wanna rush it. u could try gold lvl up totem + warrior class totem + pp totem for her.

[junior ingot]

Which totems can be used for leveling up that pity thing? I don’t want to waste good totems

[terse pond]

what collection guide i should use?

[jade gull]

I wouldnt rly point to one. Neuromamcers one that is pinned with note for correction on palmer is a nice overall guide

[terse pond]

what means lv 1-3 in that guide? that it work in any level? cause it also says +1 skill after it so i dont understand

[jade gull]

Ye i have no clue. Just use the stats and collection recommendation

[terse pond]

kk thx

[jade gull]

[hasty marlin]

as if collections couldn’t get worse, now they ruined artifact formations

bullshit just scrambled my collections all over the place

lilith has 0 iq

[fair gate]

yeah

but they'll hotfix it

[stable socket]

They won’t

[hasty marlin]

there's nothing to hotfix, this is the intended ""feature""

they don't even know how people are using collections

tailoring them to specific heroes as perma-equips except rare scenarios where they need to swap to book in towerpaign or something

just plain sillyness

[twilit turtle]

needs a lock feature or something that exempts that hero from being reassigned

[hasty marlin]

it was fine how it was before, where collections would be ignored when copying a formation, and only heroes with nothing/artifacts would have theirs changed

[hasty marlin]

lilith is trying to treat collections like they aren't rng stat sticks tailored to a specific hero and it makes zero sense

i wonder if they even do QA anymore

[sweet folio]

Lol they haven't done that for years

[hasty marlin]

🤮

awful

[sweet folio]

I just copy by screenshotting and placing manually

[hasty marlin]

i mean the entire system

is awful

but yeh

[sweet folio]

oh yeah no doubt collections make the game awful

[hasty marlin]

i just unticked the shit

they shoulda just made power creep static stat artifacts

where leveling them up increases stats and whatever put their whalebait there

[fair gate]

they'll do that as the next powercreep

[median nest]

Used all my luck of the year today on my runs

[edgy tide]

[stable socket]

[hasty marlin]

🤮

[median nest]

Ikr, even better was it was all on one account

[loud loom]

Is there are way to get collections apart of the ghoulish gallery?

because i have a shadowdancer collection but dont have saurus

[sweet folio]

one of the quests gives you 2 free artifacts of each type

but it's a one time thing

[loud loom]

Are always level 2?

or i just get lucky

[sweet folio]

just luck, they have random stats

[hasty marlin]

i still need orthos to have them all unlocked 😭

[grizzled grotto]

The once off quest that gives Dancer is always +1

[granite fern]

The last ones Soo good daym

3 attack % 2 damage reduction

[opaque estuary]

what totems do i even run to get 2 skill levels.

[late haven]

for krakens it only requires miracle worker, farewell gift and a custom card

for non krakens your best bet is all 3 skill cards

[median nest]

Miracle worker, skill up, and atk

[median nest]

That account isn't a kraken

[median nest]

Also didn't use any level custom cards btw

[late haven]

Godly luck

[late haven]

have you guys determined whether base stats from relics are scaled by collections?

[kindred bronze]

what stats are good for rowan

[jovial canopy]

did you speed run or manual?

[median nest]

Huh

[median nest]

Speed run

[restive shoal]

Oden Collection; welp

Need to think of the 3+3+1

[stable socket]

Miracle worker, farewell gift, and the epic supreme Skillset

[jade gull]

many mage got ers. nice for trish and stuff too

[restive shoal]

Dont even have energy recovery there

Unless you mean erosion*

[strong gazelle]

the one time i use miracle and farewell, they decide to give me two extra lvl up 😵‍💫😵‍💫

[jade gull]

Yes ers is erosion lol

[warped chasm]

Rip 100 gems

[jovial canopy]

[sweet folio]

Save that for a mage support type some day

Would be sick on gavus tbh

[grizzled grotto]

Yeah just slap on Gavus or Dae

I think ERS on Mehi would make her sac more life to summon the bats

[sweet folio]

I love that there's still no artifact screen in ts

And I love that there's no sort feature so I have to look through a hundred collections to find the one I want

I love this feature

[stable socket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1135644159143845888/1192609424141983784/cs_collections2.gif?ex=65a9b314&is=65973e14&hm=16a2ef80ca694bf0fc37c7b66b94dba8fbb3e776968fce0e433bc9aa680ad40c&

[clever breach]

guys is there a guide on the new collections to know which stats are good to get on each one ? or which cards to use to get those good stats on them ?

[clever breach]

waw how did you get this one ?

[late haven]

Not exactly what you are looking for and only covers some heroes but maybe helpful https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U72wGSZDAvZLDqnwyBfUTs1kS-oqM9bNhjN2rncj5Xo/edit#gid=0

[blazing schooner]

this a good one?

[jade gull]

[bleak locust]

Op for lib

[midnight bane]

Ive completed collection runs 10 times (even got achievement reward for it) why cant i use quick run function

[late haven]

did you clear floor 10 in all of them?

[midnight bane]

I need to do 10 runs in every collection?

Dammit

[jade gull]

not every collection. but u need to clear floor 10 in all 10

[midnight bane]

Oh

Alright thank you

[jade gull]

[blazing schooner]

ohhh perfect i still needed a good one for lib

[worldly summit]

what should my wishlist look like?

finally unlocked quick battle I HATE THIS BS

[drowsy yarrow]

OK, I have heard some people say that collections are simply better than artifacts. Alot of my collections are fairly bad. Even the really good ones, don't have the ideal boosts on them. So do I keep trying to build a better collection and equip them on not top tier heros when they don't have any Mythic boost?

[bleak locust]

U can do aSaf as well if u have her

[sweet folio]

Artifacts can't be used in the main game modes TS NC and Cr, so having some collections on is better than nothing

[blazing schooner]

oh i do and i use her in my arena teams lol might slam that on her

[drowsy yarrow]

Thanks!

[blissful sentinel]

Are these unlimited

[twilit turtle]

seems like so far

[blissful sentinel]

i mean if you hit use it will use it up?

[jade gull]

yes

[terse flint]

Is there a magical way for me to start liking the Ghoulish Gallery if I currently hate it?

[grizzled grotto]

Think about it differently

[sweet folio]

just use autobattle, takes like 30seconds. now hating the whole collection system, that's unavoidable

it's terrible in just about every way

[terse flint]

I don't have auto battle

[sweet folio]

only takes like 10 clears to get iirc?

so you should have it soon

[terse flint]

I have around 10 games but 2 or 3 loses

[sweet folio]

well you're close to never having to play it again

[terse flint]

I was wondering if it really auto completes it like that

[sweet folio]

yeah you just clear a floor at a time, but instantly

so 10 clicks to finish, plus whatever ability increases you get

[terse flint]

That's cool

And on the topic, is this list still valid

[kindred bronze]

1 quick explore click, 3 blue totems lmao

[kindred bronze]

which one

for rem

[terse flint]

It's amazing

To just skip the floors

[south peak]

How?

[terse flint]

Quick Explore

[south peak]

So I should be using that does it not auto select my rewards?

[terse flint]

In the end you still choose which attributes to put for the Collection

It only skips the battles and the walking on the floors making it faster

[south peak]

Oh ok thanks for that info

[terse flint]

Np

[brave shuttle]

😔😔

unlucky I didn’t get my first maxed +8

[brave shuttle]

Bruh that’s insane

[blazing schooner]

i'm just sad i didn't got that last slot red aswell

[brave shuttle]

Me 2

bro I had a level 5 one for liberta too

I thought it was goood

I just checked it again and it’s all fucking defense stats

💀💀💀

I already used all my weekly’s tho

[torpid delta]

If that dmg and hp nodes were atk or CDA or PP instead, man that would be BiS

Close enough though

[brazen girder]

i kinda like doing ghoulish gallery lol

[restive shoal]

[worldly summit]

just unlocked wl what should i put?

[late haven]

miracle worker and farewell are no brainers

i like the pp/mp for the other two cuz DR is always a fantastic stat

[jade gull]

@devout walrus here too

[devout walrus]

Anywhere else? I checked most channels idk if i forgot some

[jade gull]

ill lurk around and check as well

[devout walrus]

Appreciate it

[jade gull]

dont c anything else~ tysm

[shrewd bronze]

WL

[bleak locust]

Decent

[shrewd bronze]

more than decent

actually idk if spell bondage needs +2

[pearl juniper]

if u ban u can delete their last hour of message history can't u? or did u do a bot ban

[devout walrus]

Do bot ban, I’ll try standard discord ban next time

[pearl juniper]

ez

[shrewd bronze]

nem next apprentice mod

[pearl juniper]

blue comes first

[jade gull]

[devout walrus]

Just better to ban with bot

Anyways back to collection chat

[pearl juniper]

takes longer to bot ban

[bleak locust]

Rather have max then non

[terse flint]

Amazing for you

[worldly summit]

can someone PLEASE TELL LE WHAT MY WL SHOULD BE

[untold ferry]

Miracle worker, level up,

Then two more

[worldly summit]

and what are those 2 more

[deep knot]

im gonna be keeping this

[grizzled grotto]

The random cmbr padding PP

[jade gull]

pp mp life

[deep knot]

full erosion

[jade gull]

hmp

[quaint coyote]

Is Eorinn poison stuff control?

Can he use PRF?

Is sandstorm good for him?

[remote crane]

Gonna take a shot at getting 3* wings, any non obvious stats that I should keep in mind?

[jade gull]

Eh eorin has movement cc so is/prf bad. Try for pp and stuff. Armor prob safer

[jade gull]

Nah just the regular mp cda ers the best

[grizzled grotto]

Eorin doesn't have any cc

He also doesn't have any health-loss

[jagged lynx]

im at t16 rn

[remote crane]

Thought so ty

[jade gull]

[twilit turtle]

@hidden nimbus

[remote crane]

Any recommendations for collections that dont care much about skill level that I can just sorta blow a bad legendary totem on?

[late haven]

luminous wings (tasi) is by far the best at +0

[remote crane]

that is believable thank you

[late haven]

i would say that most of the heroes you put luminous wings on don't even want the +skills at all (they would benefit more from a good stat instead)

[remote crane]

I put +1 on my Liberta one

Also I know what you mean but for clarity sake its luminous flight. the only reason I point it out is that captive wings is a thing too

[late haven]

lol yeah mixing up the names sorry

the support one, not the mage one

the mage one actually really wants +2 skills ideally

[late haven]

he won't really make use of it in most situations- CC from collection skills uses the hero's IS, and since Liberta has none it will just fail

You could theoretically fix that by going IS on the collection but on a dps carry like liberta that's full clown mode

[remote crane]

The game is complicated, wanted to make sure things were clear for everyone reading

[remote crane]

Yeah I wasnt about to feed IS into it dw lol

[remote crane]

Thoughts on these for him? If you dont mind

[late haven]

for liberta? id use the first one in most situations. I think most CR rounds and most longer fights in general his erosion is the key.

I have a fairly poor opinion of crit in general, and Liberta has solid but unspectacular crit rate so CDA will be decent but not amazing on him, I believe.

[remote crane]

tyvm

[late haven]

to be clear CDA is an excellent stat on some other heroes, like Aath or Abel (a little mode dependent). My planner has it in several places.

[remote crane]

yeah for sure I get you. Liberta's a funny little guy in some ways

[late haven]

Actually for that matter who does the pins here

@devout walrus happen to wanna pin my custom card planner here?

[remote crane]

and would you make much Pvp/ Pve distinction between what he wants?

[late haven]

it's difficult to test but I suspect erosion is not the path for pvp

also matchup dependent though

[remote crane]

I had a gut feeling about that but couldnt back it up super well

[late haven]

for example Ashemira has insane MR, so his ult is one of the best counters to her in the game

[untold ferry]

Can you link it, I want to see

[late haven]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U72wGSZDAvZLDqnwyBfUTs1kS-oqM9bNhjN2rncj5Xo/edit#gid=0

it's a work in progress. still a lot of heroes to add.

[untold ferry]

Thanks

[late haven]

Feel free to ping me any feedback

my thoughts on stuff aren't going to be perfect so I'm always interested in hearing where I might be making an error

[remote crane]

Surprised to see vault on Lib

[late haven]

its situational. the cheat death from luminous triggers simultaneously with the cheat death from lucilla's e60, and since they're almost always used together its wasted in that scenario

in the fairly rare situations that liberta is in a comp without lucilla, luminous is typically much better

[remote crane]

gotcha. Well for me having e+ Lucilla flight it is

[late haven]

yes.

[devout walrus]

you want this pinned?

[late haven]

up to you, its still a WIP but could be useful to some people.

[devout walrus]

Think its fine sure

[late haven]

Thank you

[remote crane]

So skill level is really strong on wings as I understand. is lower level oculus gonna be better in general on say Dae and ABel?

[late haven]

at +0 I'd say Oculus is just better outright in almost all situations

the base skill on Wings looks very low impact

[remote crane]

k thanks. I appreciate the chat. lots of people dont know much about collections good to do some brain picking

[late haven]

collections are probably the most skill based mechanic in the game. in everything else you can just max invest and copy leaderboard. collections are the biggest place for small/mid spenders to make real gains on krakens.

f2p get kinda hosed though, due to the custom card mechanic

[remote crane]

yeah....but Im doin my best f2p lol

[late haven]

🫡

[remote crane]

This kinda ruled and was pre pity systems

[late haven]

hot

[remote crane]

makes Palmer one of my only sub e60 heroes in top 10 cmbr

[granite fern]

Well now I'm in the middle

For aShem

[bleak locust]

Use the 3* one

At least u got there 1 hp

[echo iron]

how do you guys get more than 4 mythics per run?

[ionic crane]

Does anyone know if there's a collection good for rem?

[untold ferry]

RNG and legendary totems perks

[untold ferry]

The Saurus one is most common

[ionic crane]

I don't see it

[echo iron]

like miracle worker, farewell gift?

[untold ferry]

Dancer

[untold ferry]

Yes and the perk level for using legendary totems

[ionic crane]

thank you <3

[untold ferry]

When you level up, guarenteed mythic drop when using x amount of legendary

[echo iron]

ah i see, thanks!

is there a benefit on doing a manual run for collections instead of quick explore?

[sweet folio]

if anything it's worse, since you can get bad rng and lose the run

[ionic crane]

when do u unlock quick explore or where can i click it

[sweet folio]

do 10 runs to floor 10

[ionic crane]

ok

also is there any way to get totems

like the blue ones

[untold ferry]

Summon with the arcane staff

[ionic crane]

that's the only way?

[sweet folio]

you can buy legendary totems in event exchanges but it's really bad value

[ionic crane]

alright

[ionic crane]

whats best for dancer / rem, magic pierce proficiency or insight?

[grizzled grotto]

MP does nothing on Mights other than add cmbr

[ionic crane]

cmbr?

[remote crane]

combat rating. MP is only functional on magic characters

[ionic crane]

oh bet

so I should do is?

[remote crane]

I dont think anything she does uses IS either though unfortunately

[ionic crane]

well i mean i have more

but theyre epic tiers

[remote crane]

It would def be better of the 2

[ionic crane]

oh bet

i got prf erosion and cda

@remote crane

[remote crane]

CDA is generally good, erosion is not gonna be used on any warriors that I can think of. prf is for heroes who inflict debuffs only certain heroes care

[ionic crane]

so in rem's case cda?

[remote crane]

yes

[ionic crane]

i got full def, def , full buffer, cda, pp and i need 1 more

because i apparently have erosion

@remote crane which do u recommend cause i only have those 3 for epic and then i go to rare which have LL x2 and cda

[remote crane]

sorry what are the options?

[ionic crane]

sorry 2, which are erosion and prf

ohhh

1 sec

leg:prf, is mp
epic: erosion prf
rare: cda, LL x2

[remote crane]

Id just do CDA

[ionic crane]

ok thanks <3

[remote crane]

[ruby flame]

is there a general guide on what to wishlist for collections? trying to build bert

[remote crane]

Miracle Worker, the level one, PP and Energy I think are the ones to pick?

[ruby flame]

i thought bert wanted flat atk?

did things change since the pins were made?

[remote crane]

sorry thats the wishlist for totems

I thought you meant literally the ingame wishlist

[ruby flame]

ohh gotcha

wait yea for totem wishlist i thought bert goes atk/f.atk?

[remote crane]

Yeah bert wants attack but PvE he tends toward erosion more I think

[ruby flame]

ah gotcha

is this wl ok for trying to get stuff for bert?

[remote crane]

If anyone else is here they can chime in too but I dont think you really want to WL based on what youre building. Because like Erosion and Atk arent really worth a legendary totem, theyre common in regular runs. Unless whaling you need to make those WL pulls really count. Like energy is on there because you cant get it normally

[ruby flame]

is there a catch-all for wishlist for totems then? or do i alter it based on who i’m trying to build

[jade gull]

the second

[remote crane]

I think miracle worker, skill up are not ever to be changed. Then you change on need

[jade gull]

the first applies when u want a skill+2 i guess. but with the new change. its more like the second thing u said

[remote crane]

I just think if you're f2p you need enough of those 2 that you kinda have to always be farming them. But I could be wrong

[jade gull]

you right~

[remote crane]

It occurs to me how long maxing the pity stuff will take. But that's AFKArena

Is there known pity on drawing a legendary totem?

[sweet folio]

30 pity, avg around 18

[remote crane]

Ty

[jade gull]

[tall nimbus]

does erosion do anything for ashem? I got a red erosion

[supple venture]

No

[tall nimbus]

rip

[grizzled grotto]

There's a couple super niche ones missing from that but they don't matter anyway

[late haven]

erosion is great on gavus

[grizzled grotto]

Oh and it was prob made pre-Gavus release yeah, he's one of most major health-loss users

[late haven]

I've heard Full Erosion is better than Erosion on Lorsan due to how his skills work but I've never looked into it closely myself. He's not a big enough part of the meta for me to have added him to my planner yet...

[jade gull]

yeah ive been looking at that yesterday or the day before

the link w. f.ers is quite interesting

[gaunt obsidian]

is the idea with GG to do SWAG runs until pity lvl 3 then do worker + gift + pp/mp/err/dr whenever u have custom skill cards?

[jade gull]

up to u.

im running single gold runs until pity lvl 2 and then running swag runs

[hollow jolt]

God my collections this week suck

Lol I got stuff for a 3 gold run but now I'm scared xD

Did 10 runs so far this week and all were horrible xD

[remote crane]

dont do multi gold until you unlock the 2 gold pity then 3 gold pity

[hollow jolt]

Lol this says I've consumed 0

Ain't no way

....

[twilit turtle]

0 legendary

[hollow jolt]

I don't believe I've used 0 this acc.. but maybe my memory is shit

Ugh

Maybe I'm getting old

[hollow jolt]

Lol that'll take literally forever

Literally

[remote crane]

Thats afk arena 🙂

[hollow jolt]

Nah xD

[hollow jolt]

Any idea how the pity works if I did wait for it?

Does my gold lvl up negate 1 pity anyways?

[remote crane]

guarantees mythic skills based on how many gold totems you use, I dont know the details very well

[hollow jolt]

Well I was asking about the details, oh well

Hmm

[remote crane]

the cards are also very good for big runs

[supple venture]

I think yes

[hollow jolt]

True...

Fine I'll wait for at least a card

Honestly don't want to run this week anyways since my luck seems ungodly bad

Seems about right lol

[jade gull]

collections is terrible rng. good luck next time

[hollow jolt]

Lol last week i at least got a few sort of useable ones

Running 2 accs xD

got 2 left this week 🙏

[jade gull]

best of luck!

[hollow jolt]

cda good for palmer ig?

Making cart collection and I got a mythic swap. Thinking heal or cda

sounds like palmer would love cda

[untold ferry]

CDA palmer pretty nice iirc

[hollow jolt]

yea

guess i'll go cda

full hp would be boring af

[late haven]

palmer wants 1 CDA and then as many MP as possible, I believe

[hollow jolt]

Lol i can barely get even slightly useable collection this week so he'll have to settle lol

slightly useable ig

Lol forgot i merc palmer atm Oh well

do all red abilities give same amount of combat power?

[jade gull]

nah. some hero scales on specific stats so those would technically give more

[hollow jolt]

Some heroes get more combat power from specific stats?

[jade gull]

yes

[hollow jolt]

I mean like for tower

to beat power cap

[jade gull]

the cmbr is different when u equip different 1 red 1 yellow 2 purple 3 blue

u can try it out

[hollow jolt]

ok interesting

[hollow jolt]

I would if it would tell me my combat power

it just says "10M"

[jade gull]

u can click on hero info

[cinder arrow]

just equip on a hero not in rc

or that

[hollow jolt]

[jade gull]

i actually went through the trouble to check myself lol

[hollow jolt]

ok

yeah ig on hero screen it's a little more specific since the power is lower for 1 hero

[jade gull]

[hasty marlin]

🤮

[drowsy yarrow]

I really hate when exploring 1) getting the copy when all you have is the lowest tier, 2) getting that ascend tier option so early that it is worthless, and 3) getting the combine, when you don't have three of anything.

[fair gate]

i wish they would add staves to afk rewards

[brazen girder]

Rate

[remote crane]

That's very good

[rugged ingot]

Is there a general wl for the totems?

[jade gull]

There is should be pinned. Idk who maintains em so

[obtuse violet]

How do i restart my Exploration?
I accidentally left at lvl 3 Spell Bondage with bad abilities

[untold ferry]

Can't restart

[obtuse violet]

Rip

[untold ferry]

You have to do again

[obtuse violet]

how?
wait for the Ghoulish Gallery to reset?
Cus i cant leave Etching without adding Abilities and clicking Etch.
but it says "After being Etched, a collection cannot be changed or enhanced by any other means".

[pearl juniper]

do that

[obtuse violet]

alr ill try

[untold ferry]

You have to etch

Run basically wasted

If you read the notice before leaving the run it says you can't go back

[obtuse violet]

oh

[untold ferry]

When they mean enhanced, they mean adding the stats, not leveling up

[obtuse violet]

ic thanks

[ruby flame]

would it be better to wl the f.atk one?

[remote crane]

I dont think fatk or atk are great for WL because you see them a lot normally, try to get them through the swap ritual during runs. That feels best to me

[ruby flame]

i have miracle worker and skill on there, what other two should i put? unsure who i should build next

i’m trying to get a good one for bert but it looks like the stats he wants aren’t worth wishlisting?

[remote crane]

Not in my opinion. in general energy is good and maybe crit of the pierce ones

[untold ferry]

I like the err one cause rarer I think

[supple venture]

Who uses err, it's mid at best

[remote crane]

hard to strike a balance between just accepting you have to get lucky and using the limited resources you have to shore up the worst odds parts

[ruby flame]

does bert prefer vault or flight

[remote crane]

flight

[untold ferry]

Depends

[remote crane]

Kaias guide thing has vault but they told me thats only for teams with a fully built Lucilla

[untold ferry]

If with lucilla flight is wasted

Yep that

[remote crane]

Also liberta flight doesnt worry too much about skill level which is usually the biggest drain on leg totems

[long hazel]

Who’s the beter tank brutus or thoran

[remote crane]

Seems kinda sick for Cruke?

[jade gull]

Solid

Even for naro

[remote crane]

I have a gold atk and fatk do I just commit to the theme or use them?

[jade gull]

The one u have seems better

[remote crane]

ty again, ended up going with that one yeah

[jade gull]

[slate swan]

I don’t know what I even did tbf

Thoughts

[clear tundra]

Damn nice

[slate swan]

I was hoping for full attack instead of attack since I had intended for that collection to be for Lucilla

But I can swap it between lucilla and aSolice if need be so that’s not a bad thing

[bleak locust]

U got a rly nice one for lib as well there

If u have non for him

[slate swan]

Definitely

I’m pretty pleased with what I got

I was originally using this for lib

[bleak locust]

Yeah u def have a better one now

[bleak locust]

That is rather something for aSaf or aSolise

[slate swan]

I don’t currently have aSaf

[slate swan]

Do you think I should pair this one with aSol and the other with Lib then?

[bold turtle]

Yes

The first one is better with lib

as you seem to have lucilla also

vault is better if you got lucilla in the team

[slate swan]

Yeah, I’ve got both luc and lib so it’s pretty swell

[ionic crane]

Is this ok? Or should I do another run for a better one, this is my first ever run so idk

[remote crane]

It looks quite good for a first run. You'll need a lot of them so just keep at it

[hasty marlin]

🤮

[jade gull]

@pearl juniper abel collection in general?