#collections

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grizzled grotto
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Just use w/e has better stats

wise hill
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ah, makes sense; what's all around better vs what's specifically better

wise hill
grizzled grotto
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Well Flight should generally be better for TS

wise hill
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I don't do that well in NC due to me being an All-Girls account; I have better luck in TS as that's the one I can actually maintain a % ranking in

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So focusing PvP relics will probably net me better result overal

timber tapir
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So if you get a male fodder do you have to restart?

jade gull
jade gull
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Pinged u there

harsh heart
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whats the optimal lib collection?

jade gull
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Check pin

harsh heart
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ohh idk that was a thing ty

fair gate
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i hope gallery skip function comes soon

wise hill
fierce hollow
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Hot

deep knot
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Lilith should give us a wishlist where i can choose, lets say 5 abilities that i want to get in the run, which will then have a better chance of appearing. (Except for "Skill level up", to balance it out) and remove the totems that already do this entirely, replacing them with more unique and less on the nose effects. Alternatively lilith could just let us keep abilites between runs

Plus they should higher the drop rates for mythic tiers. 2.8% on floor 8? Seriously?

wise hill
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I have no idea who would want this much IS homegalul

wild raptor
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Is there any tierlist that shows the best characteristics for collection artifacts?

wise hill
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MP of F. ATK on Wolise?

jade gull
wise hill
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But late on the ball there; now it's IS or PROF on Scarlet homegalul

jade gull
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idk if either of those work on scarlet. lemme check

wise hill
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her ult CCs

jade gull
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yeah should work on her s2

wise hill
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So IS or PRF better?

jade gull
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im thinking prf. but lemme check skill real quick

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prf prob yeah

wise hill
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Okay, what about between TY and CDR?

jade gull
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ty

wise hill
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Game hates scarlet as much as I do homegalul

jade gull
wise hill
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Definitely gonna reroll that but I guess it works for now

jade gull
wise hill
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First time not getting a Mythic node WAAAHsos

rare turtle
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This good? rakuhmm

jade gull
rare turtle
jade gull
rare turtle
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I see, thanks!

jade gull
wise hill
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I'm starting to see why people hate collectionshomegalul

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What kind of mage would have this? Full Erosion, really?

jade gull
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mae? emi? dae? scarlet? but they all deserve better ngl

wise hill
jade gull
wise hill
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Now it has come down to this: which one on scarlet?

jade gull
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i keep on making it harder homegalul

rare turtle
jade gull
wise hill
rare turtle
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My luck on this is so shit unimpressedalna

jade gull
jade gull
rare turtle
wise hill
rare turtle
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Getting a collection for any heroes is a nightmare homegalul

rare turtle
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I should change my name unimpressedalna

jade gull
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prob a good idea astarnomnom

rare turtle
honest zephyr
jade gull
final crypt
hallow jasper
stone totem
jade gull
deep knot
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but its somewhat outdated right?

pearl juniper
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is Temporary a role for Temp members or?

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huh

fickle bloom
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Show to download sesonal server?

jade gull
granite fern
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OwO I thought it's fine since palmer buff is both pp and mp base on his

grizzled grotto
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It buffs either but only scales his MP

devout swift
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Keep for liberta?

grizzled grotto
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Well there's no reason to sell them this early

devout swift
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Im chapter 16-16

grizzled grotto
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This early as in "this close to collection's release"

rough sandal
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Any active giftcode ? Sorry new player

opaque estuary
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what totems should i run for this?

fierce hollow
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Always blues

opaque estuary
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blues are the lowest ones?

fierce hollow
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Yes

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I never used purple or yellow so far

opaque estuary
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kk ty

restive shoal
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tempted to throw the vaunted ones for Skill Lv +1 so far kHAHAsos

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yk, miracle worker + the one that guarantees +1 at end of run + the one that +100% chance to find Skill Lv +1 homegalul

proven falcon
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It doesn’t make it guaranteed +2 unfortunately. It’s just double whatever the normal drop rate for +skill lvl is, so still fairly low

final crypt
stuck frigate
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I always wondered whether a LVL up is more valuable than any specific stat. For ABelinda, would you take this LVL artifact over the MP one?

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I know MP is a preferred stat on ABel

zenith vault
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Thats a lot of MP nodes

jade gull
heady citrus
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Oof lol

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Collections so far. Heroes with line have a collection, and the collections go in order of equipped

forest totem
hasty marlin
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collections will be reworked cause they suck so none of this matters 🤷‍♀️

heady citrus
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They don't suck lol

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Ngl collections are very nice

hasty marlin
heady citrus
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Imo they help balance the game a bit

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Since literally anyone can get good ones with luck

hasty marlin
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lol

heady citrus
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And they can be used In CR

hasty marlin
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that's the opposite of game balance

heady citrus
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Not really

hasty marlin
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and it's also cope, tbh

heady citrus
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It helps the non spenders and light spenders keep up a bit imo

hasty marlin
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with limited runs and rng, it means miracle worker is even more overpowered, and there's no realistic f2p way to get totems after the quests

heady citrus
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Store has 3 per day

hasty marlin
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whales have a huge advantage there being able to get them from store, or forsake bait for them cause they're reso18 already

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which only a whale is buying..

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or a dumdum 🤓

heady citrus
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They do. But the initial runs will be useful for f2ps

hasty marlin
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well yeah, it's a power creep system lol

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it's just a very bad one

heady citrus
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At most a player needs 30 solid collections

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For CR

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25 for campaign, and if they're old enough account 40 for pvp

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I have 35 atm already

hasty marlin
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lol

heady citrus
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Of those I'd say about 25 are solid.

hasty marlin
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it depends how you define 'solid'

heady citrus
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Useful

hasty marlin
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my problem isn't with the items themselves either way, but the god awful triple rng

heady citrus
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That's definitely true

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The rng for stats sucks

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I constantly get low tier full hp and def or full erosion buffer. But even with blue totems you can get solid stats

hollow jolt
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I missed all the free totems when the thing came out on my alt and it feels really bad compared to my older acc

hasty marlin
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you basically need a miracle to occur to get a legitimately solid, best in slot collection

heady citrus
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I Mean I did kinda get one for my abaden imo

hasty marlin
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i don’t like the overly dynamic nature of it after we’ve had static stats forever

hollow jolt
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like really bad

heady citrus
heady citrus
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I don't like the addition of buffer. Erosion etc

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And the full hp and defense and attack stats.. just get rid of those. The % value is too low to be good

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Full defense is meh at mythic. Like 8%? Iirc

hasty marlin
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it needs changes, it’s definitely unpopular

heady citrus
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Yeah it needs streamlining

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Remove some of the stats from the pool

hasty marlin
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stats should at least be relevant to the artifact class

heady citrus
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Energy recovery, dissolve, erosion buffer and the full stats should go imo

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The values are so low

hasty marlin
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mythic rarity should be lowered, or the ridiculous difference between legendary and mythic stats should be equalized a bit

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as it is it’s basically mythic or you have trash

heady citrus
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Imo just make mythic chance higher

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But yeah also make it class specific stats

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Like building a ranger one shouldn't give magic pierce,since there's like no magic damage rangers

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Or makes getting Physical pierce

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Mages

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The system can definitely improve

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But it's not a bad idea imo. Since we have so many heroes and artifacts are limited its not horrible

hollow jolt
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I just think they need a more f2p friendly way to get the totems. :/

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People that were around when the system came out got 4143153414 free ones but people that start after just get like a few from the run completion thing.. its not much :/

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I mean Ig you can spend gems but blech.

jade gull
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they did say theyre gonna add staffs to different game modes slowly so

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just gotta wait ig

hollow jolt
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that's good at least

jade gull
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yeap treznorsweat

hollow jolt
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I just want like 1 good collection for my naroko and its gonna be forever before i can even attempt at it. And i'll probly get shit, lol

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i have a few nice collections on my older acc cause of all the free ones from start

jade gull
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just gotta wait it out ig...most of mine r mehhhh

hollow jolt
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yeah, it's just like.. wait for what? lol wait for the free rewards to run out? lycapalm

jade gull
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gotta wait until they have events roll out with staffs and stuff

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like MS

hollow jolt
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fair

hollow jolt
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starting to think i should be saving blue totems elethathink

jade gull
hollow jolt
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Oh wow it's 500 blues for 1 gold lmao

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Guess it's irrelevant 🤣

jade gull
hasty marlin
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🤮

timber tapir
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500 blues for a “random gold”

median pier
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i'm not f2p and i've still been mostly just using blues lol

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so many of the rare ones are actually shittier imo >_>

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10% to drop = 0 drops

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2 guaranteed = 2 drops

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2 > 0

hollow jolt
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yeah no reason to save blues for like a full year to get 1 random gold

hasty marlin
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use the 3 blues for every run imo until lilith shows they’re sticking to this garbage or releases an outline for reworking. i’m hesitant to use golds, especially since the one time i did i failed at floor8 from awful hero upgrade luck

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i don’t buy the 3 pull things for diamonds tho. maybe they mean less to risk if you do

fierce hollow
grizzled grotto
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Por que no los dos¿

forest totem
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Adonde esta la biblioteca

devout dust
# stone totem

In the guide, what does lv 1-3 mean and under that what is +1 skill means?

steep pond
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whats the best choice for the last attack ability? i might put this on abel. or should i get rid of erosion and put one mp and one cda?

jade gull
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oh this one looks good

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id put it on someone who benefits from ers mp err

steep pond
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i don't know who will get it yet

jade gull
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u dont have trish right?

steep pond
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i just did the eye one cuz i needed to use up my tries before reset and somehow it gave me decent choices lol

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nope

jade gull
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itd be the best trish collection

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post ur mage box

steep pond
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i can cancel this and come back to it?

jade gull
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oh right

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shoot

steep pond
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let me try off memory

jade gull
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is this at etching?

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if yes i think u can quit and come back

steep pond
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abel, dae, emi, scarlet, ldv, oden

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yea its at the etching

jade gull
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yeah should be able to quit and come back

steep pond
jade gull
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hard one.

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prob drop it on dae

steep pond
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i totally forgot about bird dude, i couldn't even name him in my head lol

jade gull
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u prob dont use him much nowadays?

steep pond
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so should it be mp for the last attack?

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mauler tower

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thats it

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was used in campaign but don't go on campaign much anymore

jade gull
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yeah id do mp

steep pond
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my def choices suck lol

jade gull
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i dont c it suk lol

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gold dr!

steep pond
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well past that

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i have to pick more than 1 thing

jade gull
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id just pick the top 3

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all gold looks solid

steep pond
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alright

jade gull
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nice collection by the way. i rly want one

steep pond
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this is my first time not having blue or green on a collection I think?

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i don't think i've seen err either before. that and DR came as a bonus from blue plunder

jade gull
steep pond
# jade gull <:talenerise:777566232571412520>

pick the next collection i should make, except for that last one, i don't really have any that stand out except the tank one i have one that is +1 skill. i just need to use up my tries before reset tiduslaugh

jade gull
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make a better for ur aw then maybe?

steep pond
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alright so just hope and pray

jade gull
steep pond
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my expectations were so low so surprised i got 2 good mythic options lol

jade gull
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wtf

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how????

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wow

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nice!

steep pond
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well, one was a swap that i got at the end so i forced it to happen

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swap with def and cda

jade gull
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what collection?

steep pond
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oculus

jade gull
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even better!

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all top 4 stats r solid then

steep pond
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yea def side i'm never sure though, how much do these small + stats even help? is +def even worth getting?

jade gull
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def hp f.hp

vale yarrow
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def treznorsweat

jade gull
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its gold

vale yarrow
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im confused after seeing those guides

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so i'll blindly pick based on my feeling

jade gull
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as long as its not the worst stat or doesnt work at all id always go for higher tier (ofc if its a rly good stat id go the lower one)

steep pond
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what is a really good def stat besides DR?

jade gull
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the others kinda depend

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but hp ty rnt bad

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most can take em

steep pond
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guess i'll try to make one for wyca next

jade gull
steep pond
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might have saved the run so far lol

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well it could have gone a lot worse

jade gull
steep pond
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if that swap didn't happen and the last 2 fights didn't give me the 2 blue attack...it would have been selecting from cdr and cbr as that is all that it gave me lol

jade gull
heady citrus
steep pond
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too late on that one, 2 mp + erosion for dae still pretty good.

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flight, wanted to make for bert before i started, got a swap. full erosion for attack? or keep that as mythic and swap buffer for atk? or what to do?

heady citrus
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For Dae that's good

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Imo

steep pond
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this is flight, a sust collection, the 2mp + erosion was the one for dae. I picked it thinking i was going to make one for bert but if there is a better option then i'll see when its fully completed

steep pond
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wow i got another swap @jade gull what is happening with collections today? i have a 2nd blue attack to swap and i just got a legenary atk.

jade gull
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Nice!!

heady citrus
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Nice

steep pond
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i wish i had mp to use for the swap though

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@jade gull what i ended up with. 2 err in one day, wish i had that 2nd mythic before i had the 2nd swap though

jade gull
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still OP

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id pick err over f.ers thou

steep pond
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is full buffer worth putting on just in case? lol

jade gull
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for defensive id do both f.buffer anyways

steep pond
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oh err counts as an attack node dang it

jade gull
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and the third defensive id pick based on hero

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yeah it does unfortunately

steep pond
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well its only 0.83 so it won't be much

jade gull
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i mean compared to gold f.ers id def prefer err so

steep pond
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between erosion and err, err would be better? i'm still thinking i can put this on bert

jade gull
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oh i missed that ers somehow lol

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thats a good question lemme double check actually

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yeah most guides put err over ers for lib

steep pond
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ok

jade gull
steep pond
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i guess i can do 3 full buffer on def homegalul is blue TY better for that third option? is heal ever worth it?

gritty dock
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Help what I do

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Spell bondage

jade gull
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id do f.atk x2, atk x2, buffer, hp, f.def

steep pond
jade gull
gritty dock
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Does that change anything

jade gull
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nah those stats r too good no matter what collection it is

gritty dock
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I didn’t use any totems or build a team

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I just upgraded whatever it gave me on the crystal thing 💀

steep pond
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now the hard part, i got 1 try left and with how collections have been going, it might end up being good tiduslaugh

gritty dock
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What stats should I be picking

gritty dock
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Like when I encounter or refresh

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What’s good and bad

jade gull
gritty dock
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O

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It lied it ain’t give me anything

jade gull
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and then id also look at the pinned guide in general for what stats to use on what hero collection

violet shard
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which better item ?

gritty dock
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I should’ve refreshed the buffer damn

gritty dock
jade gull
jade gull
gritty dock
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Where I use collection

violet shard
gritty dock
jade gull
# violet shard for the rem

rem want atk pp. prob go for the right side one. the left one give to someone that have healthloss (abrut etc)

violet shard
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okey thx

jade gull
gritty dock
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How to use collection

violet shard
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put where artifact go

gritty dock
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Ohhh

steep pond
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wth floor 2

jade gull
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floradeadeyes wtf y so lucky

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gib

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this is too much

ionic crane
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Is it okay to just dump all 7 attempts into one single collection?

steep pond
jade gull
ionic crane
jade gull
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yeah

steep pond
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uh oh

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i'm getting these abilities but on vault tiduslaugh , i guess it can be used on luci?

jade gull
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many can use it

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luci ivan lava etc.

steep pond
jade gull
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wow

steep pond
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like why on vault?

jade gull
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wow

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u got talene by any chance?

steep pond
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i need this for someone else tiduslaugh

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i might use the free pull on talene

jade gull
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who did u have in mind?

steep pond
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for the choose any epic

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when i first picked vault, i was like lets try for luci but doesn't really matter

jade gull
steep pond
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is there another support that would do well with these stats? here is def side

jade gull
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wow nice

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id do drx2 and hp

steep pond
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yea, the one day tiduslaugh i want more runs

jade gull
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those r some op runs ngl

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too good

steep pond
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can i xfer the pp to someone else pls

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my might collections would appreciate it tiduslaugh

jade gull
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same my might collections r the worst

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like purple kinda bad

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no pp

steep pond
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i guess it could work on luci since she does physical dmg but is it worth choosing?

jade gull
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oh def would work

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would work on any tbh

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but pp on sus more talene thing

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luci like atk more

steep pond
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i only got full atk

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erosion wouldn't help either of those though right?

jade gull
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yeah wouldnt. but if u have lava or ivan could do f.atk ers but no pp

steep pond
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so ers + cda + prf?

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or 2 prf?

jade gull
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for luci? who do u want it on is the question

steep pond
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if that was for lava or ivan

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if it was for luci it would be 2 pp + cda?

jade gull
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for ivan prob f.atk ers prf x2

steep pond
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yea i'm including fatk no matter what, trying to figure out the other 3 depending on who i would choose it for

jade gull
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prob best for ivan actually cause lava doesnt use ers i think

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if u wanna prioritize it for ivan u can take both mythic stats

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and then prfx2

steep pond
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yea, i'm thinking about it for ivan. why did it actually give me choices tiduslaugh

jade gull
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too good makes it even harder lol

steep pond
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i'll just do it for ivan

jade gull
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if u do it for ivan id take all gold defensive stats

steep pond
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oh i didn't take full def, i did 2nd dr

jade gull
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works too

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not a huge difference

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i was thinking cause ivan gets used w. abel so def wouldnt b bad

regal osprey
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hi

jade gull
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cruke?

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both works lol

fast swallow
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Hi fellas, its been a long time that i left the game but im back now. Do you guys know what time and what days new servers coming up ?

pearl juniper
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it's whenever last server fills up

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it varies so much nobody's ever bothered to time it

fast swallow
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Ohh okey, been a 5 days that im waitin

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Does it took 1 month or something ?

pearl juniper
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sometimes a week

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sometimes more

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sometimes less

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we really don't know

fast swallow
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Ok man thank you. We dont know the day but atleast do we know the times ?

gritty dock
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??

nova lintel
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What collection and stats for Eugene? And Gavus

pearl juniper
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we literally don't even have them yet

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so we don't know how they work

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how on earth are we supposed to know that areyouseirus

fierce hollow
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Dont be a sissy nem katsos

pearl juniper
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Eugene wants MP, ATK, ERR (ERR is huge on him) and normal defence skills

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CRIT could help out as well if u get that

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happy now Kadezh? katsos

fierce hollow
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Yes

pearl juniper
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oh and HP on Eugene is also great

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since he'll sac HP for energy

grizzled grotto
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ERR prob fine for Eugene but I don't think it's good on Gavus
Gavus can also use ERS if you aren't using him with spooder

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Atk & CDA should be better than MP on Eugene because he stacks his own so high naturally (but MP still good obvs)

pearl juniper
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yeah his SP

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dw Six I wasn't being serious, just throwing random thoughts out there off of what I vaguely remember

pearl juniper
grizzled grotto
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I've been using them at L on Test kHAHAsos

drowsy yarrow
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Several questions on collections: 1) it would seem that buying staffs is pretty expensive in the shop, do you agree? 2) You can combine totems to increase their tier, but given how few we get, are people holding on to them and make more collections or combining and making better collections? 3) I am trying out some collections that have several whole team buffs on support and tanks, are you doing something similar?

timber rover
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Do you think this would be good for Rem

jade gull
timber rover
late aurora
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For bossing probably, the other one is better for pvp

jade gull
# drowsy yarrow Several questions on collections: 1) it would seem that buying staffs is pretty ...
  1. yes, staffs r expensive in shop. not recommended for f2p who havent achieved reso18.
  2. people are holding em cause the incoming patches will include sweep to guarantee lvl 10 collection and adjust the stat drop rates. combining isnt recommended until u have excess amount of blues/purples.
  3. depends on what stats i end up getting and what hero i want to equip the collection on. i try to avoid f.ers and f.buff for team wide stats.
drowsy yarrow
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Thanks!

feral trench
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I did a run with the totems to increase my luck for skill levels and I got a third one. Can I use it? There's not a third slot is there? It won't let me swap it out like any other red

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Finished the run. You can't swap them out. I don't guess I could've gotten lucky and unlocked a third slot for skill level

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Exciting to get a double skill level either way!

jade gull
jade gull
dreamy bloom
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what is priority hero for this mode?

spare warren
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Guys, is there still not a collections guide yet for almost all heroes?

grizzled grotto
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People are working on it but it's a crapload of work and a lot of people don't agree

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There are a bunch of ones already released, but people are working on better ones

steep verge
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Afk arena prioritizations list: I dont know who all will find this useful, but, i have compiled a well informed collections list of every relevant hero in the game. Ranking them numerically in order of priority. This list also includes what collection they best use, at what level, and what stats they prefer to have on the collection. Here is the link- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wFtEvK3YYkm8pDJ_xhffP8SL-uSthX2nfNvxJFIiaAA/edit?usp=sharing if you have any comments, find this useful, or have questions please @ me and i will respond as fast as i can! Thank you!

hollow cedar
jagged fern
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Which support type hero will be suitable for this collection?

jade gull
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floradeadeyes ur showing off i c.

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wtf is that collection right there. 7 mythics...

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give it to asool or something ig

spark parrot
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Is erosion good for aathalia/rem

jade gull
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no

spark parrot
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Thank youu

jade gull
torpid delta
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Who can I use this on, C&R? Cause he has this atm

jade gull
tranquil plover
#

full buffer + buffer could've been replaced with something yellow but useful and it would have been better

violet shard
#

why erosion bad

grizzled grotto
#

ERS isn't "bad" but it's inherently more specific
The heroes it's most usable on have to use health-loss as their main dmg and ideally not be using Spooder (overcaps with max stacked Spooder 9 + over 10 ERS from collec)

violet shard
#

oh I thought by health loss it just means damage

grizzled grotto
#

Health-loss is essentially a damage type, it'll say the skill causes health-loss or the enemy loses health in the description

gilded rose
#

How do badly-made/average collections compare to artifacts? Always worth to switch, or only past a certain quality?

violet shard
grizzled grotto
#

Rare for non-TS, decent for TS
Ultimately, you don't get much choice

violet shard
#

what you think for this best for ivan ? didn't get full stat things but have skill +1

grizzled grotto
#

Very few defensives affect Ivan when he's untargetable most of the time
Either Armor or F.Def is ideal

#

Other than those, just w/e standard good ones remain

violet shard
#

so here only good armor r:

grizzled grotto
#

It just mostly doesn't matter, f.def and armor are fairly minor stats anyway

#

Thing that matters far far more for Ivan is getting ATK% and/or PRF

violet shard
#

okey

#

I make it this

#

but he haved this which better stat but is the ability of the luminos flight better so its worth use it instead ?

grizzled grotto
#

That Vault is prob better on Ivan but you can just use the Flight on someone else

violet shard
#

👍 thx u

spare warren
#

Guys, is there a collections guide yet?

feral trench
#

There's a couple things in the pins

terse flint
#

Which collection is good for Eorin? Judgmental Armor or Sandstorm Fangs?

late aurora
#

I don't think eorin even use CC for him to be able to proc sandstorm fangs.

wet citrus
#

Oh and could you please edit the text so it says "collections priorization list" at the beginning or something like that? Will be hard to identify on first glance otherwise

steep verge
#

Edit the text for the document, or the discord message itself? @wet citrus

wet citrus
steep verge
#

Okay, thanks for letting me know! Feel free to do with it whatever youd like, i just wanted to post it here so hopefully it could reach some people that could use it

#

Message edited :)

wet citrus
#

Oh i'm just here to help others get an idea of what to get on which hero!
Hope the feedback will help you, will check if i find other guides and maybe somebody can craft an official one at some point

steep verge
#

I curated my guide with my own experience, that of a few friends, and some influence from about 5 or so of the top afk players from early servers who already compiled lists. So i would like to think my list is pretty well informed

jade gull
#

im just compiling some together. its growing in size (still adding more) so thats y i havent shared it yet

wet citrus
#

Yeah i thought so too!
Only need to find the message with the explanation of gold totem runs but ig i will wait until the sweep feature drops and see if it changes anything

jade gull
#

bislinda posted in crowdsource w. explanation of different types of totems rums. its pinned over there.

wet citrus
jade gull
steep verge
#

Define explanation of gold totem runs a little more for me, sorry for being a little slow. I may be able to shed some light there too

jade gull
wet citrus
#

Will check it out tomorrow

wet citrus
jade gull
wet citrus
#

Curious if the new sweep will impact drop rates and if manual will be somehow better

jade gull
#

i think they're adjusting drop rate in the patch after if i remember right

#

from devs notes

steep verge
#

Ah i havent seen a listing of drop rates yet, thanks for the info Farara! Ill use that to hopefully update my guide later on to be a bit more inclusive of information

jade gull
wet citrus
#

Thanks for the effort everbody i'm out for today

jade gull
#

isathumbsup cya steve~ have fun

wet citrus
#

Going to bed khasosrun

#

Loads of fun

viral zephyr
#

Would magic perse be good for ivan

pearl juniper
#

not really

wise hill
#

Buffer or HP for Rem?

jade gull
#

hp

#

buffer trash

hasty marlin
#

where skeep

jade gull
#

tuesday patch

hasty marlin
#

they disabled reactions here 🤮

#

i hhope they announce more changes soon

jade gull
wise hill
#

I can replace Erosion with purple CDA/TY/PP; is this decent for Rem or better for anasta?

jade gull
#

wow nice~ replace w. purple pp

#

rem would love it

wise hill
#

Got it, thanks

#

I guess Mulan collection next

jade gull
zenith vault
#

I hate this place

#

I had 0 rerolls or swaps

#

Only the replicating thing

hasty marlin
#

i feel existential dread whenever i remember that collections exist

zenith vault
#

Same but theyre so important

zenith vault
#

I never get a natural skill level drop but when I do it has terrible stats and no rerolls / swaps

fair raptor
#

This is the most stupid feature of all time.

jovial canopy
#

what do i want stats wise for a rem collection

hasty marlin
#

pp atk crit dr/ty/hp i'd assume

#

there's a guide in pins

zenith vault
jaunty cove
#

It's taking Devs forever to rework this garbagetheowynspook

hasty marlin
#

if they're even going to

#

it's sad that it even got pushed out of beta cause now there's all kinds of complications for doing any major rework..real $ spending. diamonds etc

grizzled grotto
#

Tbh, Collec are a better creep than furn, engrave or beasts at least

hasty marlin
#

it depends on what angle you're coming from..i just hate the rng mostly :q

#

and how it throws the game out of whack from any kind of breakpoint relative to other players

grizzled grotto
#

Being rng and somewhat affected by knowledge makes it far easier for a f2p or otherwise weaker player to close some of the gap to stronger players

#

I understand why people don't like it mechanically,
but I can't help but be happy with the results

fair raptor
fair raptor
grizzled grotto
#

The fact that people dislike collec makes it even more beneficial, because if your competition ignores it then you get an edge

royal oxide
#

^ Pure gacha wisdom

fair raptor
hasty marlin
#

i mean it's 'better' than furniture, engraving, etc. in the sense that you can very quickly get a significant power boost to an individual hero, with nothing but some luck whereas the other systems take forever. i don't think that really translates to a positive though when combined with massive amounts of rng inequality

#

the skill up stuff takes an already ehh amount of rng and just... exponentially increases it (and then it does it yet again with the 2nd skill up)

#

if one thing were changed i'd hope it's that

royal oxide
#

A collection run is just a pull with extra steps, really. All it needs to be the same as furn is some kind of pity mechanism (ofc it would likely be pity with extra steps)

grizzled grotto
#

I do think it'd still be nice with more improvements, I'm just happy that people disliking it = less interact with it = easier ranks

terse pond
#

is ANY collection better than norma artis?
by any collection i mean for example if i get an oculus +0 skill for belinda , its better ?

grizzled grotto
#

You can't use artifacts in the modes that matter

terse pond
hasty marlin
#

depends on the hero..like book for daemia can make or break a campaign stage. usually collection is better, i would trash anything under +10 tho

royal oxide
shut cloud
#

Is it generally the best to be going to miracle worker and 2 level ups?

feral trench
#

I'm just happy that collections didn't introduce another long term resource goal

#

Having to pick between reds Poe and bait starting my account around when beasts came on the scene has been rough

idle adder
royal oxide
#

True. There are already mechanics to prune the RNG space. It's already a form of pity, in the long run

#

Totems also help with that

supple venture
fair raptor
supple venture
#

Good to have you back belovedzikis astarnomnom

fair raptor
idle adder
heady citrus
heady citrus
violet shard
#

=unlook

waxen badger
#

nice one

hasty marlin
#

=look

hasty marlin
#

3 legendaries for this garbage for palmer treznorsweat

sturdy marsh
#

Quick explore is quicker pain

#

and the "Event Error" is making me more pissed

hasty marlin
#

indeed

#

event error? :q

#

it felt like something was missing from the update..is an event not activated? pet map or sometin

sturdy marsh
#

Ok selling/recycling collections is bugged and gives you extra diamonds instead of 100 only and will show you more diamonds but cant use it really tiduslaugh

hasty marlin
#

🤔

#

intratedsting

restive shoal
#

So the quick sweep/run feature is live now?

jade gull
#

yes

restive shoal
#

how's the sub stat RNGesus now? kHAHAsos

#

still sh1t?

jade gull
#

i dont think thats adjusted with this patch. prob next one

#

not sure. cant remember

restive shoal
idle adder
restive shoal
#

oof

#

LMAO, totemless quick run is kHAHAsos kHAHAsos

valid helm
#

How do I increase a collection's level after the run is over?

idle adder
#

You dont

valid helm
#

That's messed up. Terrible design.

restive shoal
#

i like my recent analogy to my guildmate - Collections be like having your cart/trolley/bag in a supermarket, where people stuff in random fruits into your container, and you choose which 7 (8 if miracle worker) to keep on check out kHAHAsos

hasty marlin
#

and 90% of the fruits are rotten or otherwise useless and nutritionally void

tame raven
#

So potential 700 gems weekly toward you gacha funds if all of the runs are bad

valid helm
#

Can I just abandon runs to reach the 10 needed for sweep or do I have to make 10 full runs?

tame raven
#

Pretty sure 10 completed clear run

#

Not sure though so need double check

valid helm
#

And the RNG is bad. I got screwed over because the game refused to show hero upgrades at all until floor 3.

restive shoal
#

The scrunched up face scrutinizing if Oranges or Lemons are better

velvet terrace
#

honestly ive been getting so many more mythics with the quick explore

#

like 2-3 on average

#

W update

deep knot
#

I mean the quick explore doesnt magicially make you more lucky

#

but its a good feature

idle adder
#

technically it does

#

by making you less unlucky

#

with the hero upgrades homegalul

deep knot
#

right

tranquil dew
#

Just wanted to show this off

deep knot
tranquil dew
#

ofc

deep knot
#

thats the spirit

restive shoal
#

Wtf, hax

hoary hare
#

Tell me that 3 totem

tranquil dew
#

i think it was what you expect

#

MW FG SS

hoary hare
#

Thank you

jovial canopy
#

How much crit do you want…me - “yes”

pearl juniper
#

Holy

jovial canopy
gleaming smelt
#

Worth switching?

full ember
twilit turtle
dusk tusk
#

I hate this shitty gamemodeWAAAHsos

hollow jolt
#

do collections apply "full x" stats after the hero die?

#

wondering if it's worth trying to collect some full atk for my nara xD

sweet folio
#

Nara is a completely dead hero, I wouldn't do anything for her

#

Idk the answer to the question tho

#

I assume no anyway

twilit turtle
hollow jolt
#

LOVED her pre31

#

but yeah I feel, lol

jade gull
jade gull
wise hill
#

I used to simp nara a couple years ago

jade gull
#

me too. but that was long long ago

wise hill
#

That was back when wilders were my main faction homegalul

#

on my old account

jade gull
#

isathumbsup i like nara a lot. he skill set was interesting to me. kinda wished she got revamped but

wise hill
#

Sames; on a similar note, I still feel Thali deserves a DoT on her fire like Satrana has

jade gull
#

i was hoping thali would hard carry me like mirael did when i was completely noob...she didnt after i tested her out when she was released. i was rly down....

hasty marlin
#

is it worth using my challenger points to get a copy of orthos or whatever for his collection

#

it doesn't seem that widely used ;q

#

also linking collections to heroes was vry BM

jade gull
#

apparently merc counts too

#

just merc orthos and do orthos collection run

hasty marlin
#

🤔

#

now THAT is intratedstiang

#

tbh i should be pulling orthos anyway at this point but i’m not leaving my ezizh at m+ 🥹

waxen badger
waxen badger
restive shoal
#

Can be used for awa brutus? homegalul

torpid delta
#

Yes

waxen badger
#

@candid burrow this stuff ain’t allowed right ^^^

ionic crane
#

is the zolrath collection worth unlocking?

waxen badger
#

yes

ionic crane
#

who are the heroes that use that collection? besides "warrior" 😄

waxen badger
#

wathalia, rem, tamrus, jerome, anasta, alna are the main ones

torpid delta
#

They don't all use that collection specifically though

#

Jerome, Alna want the time warp one, and if you care about pvp, so does Rem and tamrus

haughty prairie
#

Unfortunately I wasted the last of my good totems, guess I’m done with gallery lol. Can’t believe we don’t get staves from afk rewards

#

I don’t even know what to do because you need to get double levels or half are bust

jade tiger
#

Running on Lucretia

jade gull
hasty marlin
#

🤮

proven falcon
#

What hero is that one based off of anyway? Crassio?

#

oh nevermind it’s Tidus

jade gull
ionic crane
#

Is this good or bad?

jade gull
#

isathumbsup avg+

hasty marlin
#

plenty good enough for a support

#

but delete it anyway. we must boycott collections

ionic crane
#

Which one is better for Rem?

hollow jolt
#

Lol if you dont crit, just try again

#

They both are pretty good tho

#

Right one is tempting

hoary hare
#

Lol if i know i get this i will run level up legendary totem🥲

hollow jolt
#

Lol hmmmmmmm

#

Not sure who wants this but can't be too bad xD

#

Ig Ivan kind of

#

Think liberta likes mp?

hasty marlin
#

definitely

proven falcon
#

Lucilla would like that too

grizzled grotto
#

List of Skills Affected by Collection Stats
(If there's anything wrong or missing, just tell me)

#

@wet citrus Here's my current ver, another part was wip but I haven't got round to it due to being busy & sick

wet citrus
hollow crag
grizzled grotto
#

Ah, yeah the last time I updated it was before Eugene or Gavus were released

#

Gavus' S2 & S3 health-loss is pretty good

late aurora
#

Dunno if his e60 counts for proficiency too.

mellow furnace
#

what collection should i aim for my first 3* ?
im at chapter 30, with Rem as carry and Ivan as support..

vestal steppe
#

should i do the fast explore?

candid burrow
#

yes

grizzled grotto
sweet folio
#

Did anyone test if non-cc debuffs are effected by prof?

#

It should based on the text but Lilith is terrible

grizzled grotto
#

Pretty sure they are but I'd have to double check if bob did any testing

restive shoal
jade gull
#

Pretty nice~

restive shoal
#

sadge not full red homegalul

#

though that'll be too much copium

#

out of attempts for the week

jade gull
late aurora
#

Is it just me or does it feel like sweep has better luck on getting better tier stats gavusum

sweet folio
#

Just you

late aurora
#

This were 3 out of the 4 sweeps I did, only using the blue totems. The 4th one I did without totems, which was still decent with 1 red tier attack.

sweet folio
#

Yes sample size of 1 is very good

late aurora
#

So I'm assuming your sweep has still a same results as when you were doing manual then?

sweet folio
#

Mine were worse lol

#

But it should be the same rng

late aurora
#

I see. I still have 3 tries left, I'll test more before the end of the week. And next week I'll try to do manuals.

sweet folio
#

This mode is so rng that one person testing a few times means nothing

#

Would need hundreds of data points to say anything meaningful

late aurora
#

Gotta start somewhere, mine is a positive for now.

near crag
#

Are there any pve based guides for Stat specific colls?

#

The image that was shared in pins is too blurry for me read

wet citrus
feral trench
#

Is a captive wings +1 skill gonna outdamage a +0 oculus? It looks like maybe

tame raven
#

is this collection decent

jade gull
#

belovedzikis yes but pp on a mage relic.

tame raven
#

yeah that is rather unfortunate roll

#

idk why but pp is more common than mp for me for some reason

#

maybe I should go ranger collection instead lmao

grizzled grotto
#

Wrong pierce on a collec gives zero benefit in battles
But it is a lot of extra cmbr

tame raven
#

cmbr?

grizzled grotto
#

Combat rating

#

M stats contribute a lot of cmbr so it can help with pcap

quaint coyote
#

Is erosion good for Liberta?

fierce hollow
#

Iirc yes

fierce hollow
grizzled grotto
#

ATK% is better but ERS works

quaint coyote
grizzled grotto
#

Damage over time and health-loss aren't the same thing

#

There are DoTs that aren't health-loss (Eorin is a normal dmg DoT) and there's health-loss that aren't DoTs (AwSaf SP is a non-DoT health-loss)

knotty turret
#

Is the level of the collection dependant on the skill + node?

#

To make it more clear on the screenshot of the guide on the pins it says "Level 1-3" and then under it says skill +1

#

So how do i get it to level 2 or 3 ?

grizzled grotto
#

When people say level they mean the skill level

knotty turret
#

Yah but the screenshot also says skill +1 as an added option

grizzled grotto
#

Skill +1 is the same as saying lvl2 skill

#

They're diff names for the same thing

pearl juniper
#

can be abbreviated to 2 star now as well isathumbsup

grizzled grotto
#

Just because diff people call it diff things

pastel oasis
#

Whats energy recovery rate icon? (Im playing im a different language and dont know how to change to english sry about that) and what collection is better for campaign on rem, saurus or zoralth?

zealous forge
#

This one should be enough for Abelinda?

sweet folio
#

It's ok,not spectacular though

zealous forge
#

I have this one as well, I think this is better 🤔

sweet folio
#

Belinda doesn't rlly need mp as a lot of her DMG isn't effected by it

zealous forge
#

So better focus on att and crit?

sweet folio
#

Ye

zealous forge
#

Ok, tysm sir

jolly elm
#

Does anyone know wtf this actually says? Discord compression is unreadable. I think i can see full atk and full hp but thats it

sweet folio
#

Looks like err, heal? Full atk, CBR, ??? , full hp, def

jolly elm
#

i hate that this no card run was better than most of my 3 gold runs. unironically. my luck is terrible in this.

jolly elm
#

Thanks

rare turtle
forest totem
#

Still shit mode

#

Nothing changed khasosrun

jolly elm
#

Cant wait til next year when they add mythic cards and ascended stats

noble ravine
bold turtle
forest totem
jade gull
jade gull
primal rose
#

Which one for Bert?

torpid delta
#

@primal rose they are both pretty good but I'm gonna lean towards the one on the right

scenic bough
#

thoughts for abel? better than WB?

urban hazel
#

whats the best way to use totems?

forest totem
#

Save legendaries/purples

#

Wishlist miracle worker/level up and the ones giving pp/mp

#

Well, not sure about pp/mp but that's what I am personally doing

urban hazel
#

do i merge the blues to higher tier or use them?

hollow jolt
#

Lmao wtf

restive shoal
spare warren
wide heart
#

What’s prio artifacts ? For ghoulish gallery

hollow jolt
#

Just make a bunch of support ones

#

Lol

#

Need a lot of them

#

:x

hollow jolt
#

For actually good ones check pins ig

sullen halo
#

Any supports that want this?

grizzled grotto
#

Rosa and Ivan both scale their buff of their crit stat

sullen halo
#

Does Ivan? I can't see anything in his skills

heady citrus
#

Do I Yolo this combination ritual? @grizzled grotto

#

Could completely gut the usefulness of the collection lol I'm on floor 10

royal oxide
hollow jolt
#

Pog

prime igloo
#

Which collection is better for liberta? Lvl3 vault or lvl 3 flight?

grizzled grotto
wise hill
tame raven
#

Basically when you roll a gold totem, you get one of the ones you wish for in the wishlist

remote crane
#

Well here we go. Pray for me folks

hollow jolt
#

XD

remote crane
#

how'd it go?

hollow jolt
#

Idk yet

#

Why cda on liberta? elethathink

#

Cda or mp I assume is move

remote crane
#

I think CDA is just because he's a carry even if he does it in non traditional ways. Don't think MP is super important on him

hollow jolt
#

Hmm

#

Ok I'll take cda

hollow jolt
#

Seems useable

remote crane
#

Yeah that's solid for sure

#

If you're curious

hollow jolt
#

Who's that for?

remote crane
#

Belinda (not sleeping)

hollow jolt
#

Oof

#

Useable I guess

remote crane
#

I think its alright, wish I actually got crit but I feel like I avoided trainwreck

#

defense stuff sucks but that's less important

hollow jolt
#

Yeah no mp and barely any atk hurts

remote crane
#

It has gold MP

hollow jolt
#

Ok low mp

#

But yea

#

My best one is still Rem's I think

#

I want a good one for naroko but I need orthros 😭

remote crane
#

God I wish I had one like that

#

Palmer is ok. Very top heavy though

noble ravine
jade gull
# noble ravine

Ur doing this in purpose now. I can comfirt u when u get bad drops but when u have good ones…..gunsolise

ruby flame
#

Rem, Shadow dancer, level 2 does this mean that you want lvl 2 skill on her collection

scenic bough
#

thoughts for abel?

mint patio
#

is there a collection wishlist yet? or valid choices

ionic crane
#

Should i draw summons only when my wishlist is active?

royal oxide
tidal pendant
ionic crane
#

Am i the only one, who accidentally pressing "summon" button instead of quick explore 3 times in a row?

royal oxide
wet citrus
#

GG Skill Description and Recommendations - Credit to the guidemakers talenerise

jade gull
wet citrus
#

Oh could you post it or send it to me? 🙂

#

Cant search for anything useful anymore..

jade gull
#

I posted here before i think. Posted on reddit too

#

Lemme find it

jade gull
wet citrus
#

Thanks!

#

GG Skill Description and Recommendations - Credit to the guidemakers talenerise

knotty turret
#

Do you have the reddit link @wet citrus

#

Because opening on browser makes the pic blurry

wet citrus
grizzled grotto
#

Works for me too, idk what causes images to not work for some people

forest totem
#

Maybe he forgot to put on glasses khasosrun

modest drift
#

why do the pins recommend AShem to get ATK on collections?

she literally has 0 ATK scalings on any of her abilities, it's all max hp

isn't mpen or cda just always better?

knotty turret
#

ty

jade gull
blissful sentinel
#

Which for mishka

jade gull
steep pond
toxic token
#

Who would want this

restive shoal
#

Someone stab my RNGesus plz floradeadeyes

#

Smh where the swap nodes kHAHAsos

heady citrus
jade gull
toxic token
#

Idk which one tho lorsob

sweet folio
#

Any commonly used support will want +1 stall at least for cr

#

Wings doesn't feel as important to +1

#

I forgot the +2 cause I'll never get one

toxic token
#

i got 2 skill up today on rowan collections treznorsweat

jade gull
#

but ur not using miracle worker soooo

crystal quiver
#

Which collection should Lucretia have?

grizzled grotto
#

For campaign/tower, DD is prob better unless pcapped or literal god collec

hollow jolt
#

crit naroko

#

new meta ig

hollow jolt
#

Hmmmmmm

#

to dupe atk or crit? peggythink

#

For Alyca

#

I think crit?

#

now im thinking atk

#

AHHH

hazy cedar
#

@jade gull is dr dmg resist

jade gull
hazy cedar
#

thansk

jade gull
mortal anvil
#

doctor farara has spoken

hasty marlin
#

doctor damage resist

jade gull
#

U mean farara the noob astarnomnom

spare warren
#

Can maetria use the Oden collection instead of mehira's?

grizzled grotto
#

Either is fine on any sorc

paper monolith
#

When to use collection rather than artifact?

jade gull
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Use artifact in tower/TR/campaign. Collection everywhere else

hasty marlin
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🤮

old edge
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I’ve read 3 guides but still confused about collections. Can I create unlimited ones of the same ‘collection’ or artefact (e.g. shadow dancer)? If so, then does that mean I use all of the abilities I acquired by the end of a ‘run’ as an attempt to make a good one otherwise I will lose them all and have to reset again?

grizzled grotto
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Should be pretty obvious after you do an actual run

grizzled grotto
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Can get confused by the wording of others but actually experiencing it you'll realise it's super simple

forest totem
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Super simple and super shit

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🤮

hasty marlin
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🤮🤮🤮

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me @ lilith headquarters to talk about collections

hasty marlin
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update coming has some kinda pick-your-mythic(s) system that builds up as you use legendary totems

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need passive gain of the roll item

shrewd bronze
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is there a collection guide for each hero?

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or only for the meta heroes

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im in early game (11-31) and im guessing some heroes in my lineup who arent relevant lategame are not included in the guides ive looked through

jade gull
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im making one but itll take much longer

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if u got specific hero ur unsure of feel free to just list the heroes and ask

shrewd bronze
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reminds me of crusaders quest lol

jade gull
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isathumbsup np. some of us rly try

shrewd bronze
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i can tell, as someone who started 8 days ago i really appreciate it u guys provide all the resources to make this game more enjoyable and understandable for newbies i speak on behalf of all of us

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any collection advice for my current lineup? am i even using the right collections lol

jade gull
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collection wise nothing looks wrong~

viscid sail
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I currently have this equipped to my JoA but is there a better fit for it? I have most support heroes built except for Ivan, Mortas, and Talene. I do also have ASolise but I'm not sure that ERR is that good on her

grizzled grotto
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ERR works well on smth like Joan that doesn't scale any stats

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Alternatives are stuff like Twins, Nev, Merlin

worldly gazelle
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For AShem, I see both Timeline Watch and Spell Bondage recommendations. Any consensus on what’s best?

grizzled grotto
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Watch for TS, Bond for CR

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Same for basically every Fort

strange tendon
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Is the general consensus on collections to combine totems into purple and gold and not use blues, or to only use gold totems?

grizzled grotto
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Ig combining is more useful after explore and custom scrolls get added
It's a pretty awful exchange rate though

viscid sail
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I personally run with the two good blue totems and combine the bad one

forest totem
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When does gg reset?

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Is it monday?

fierce hollow
forest totem
hasty marlin
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🤮

grim cairn
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What hero can build with these totems? Or i should wait longer for more totems

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Should've not use the legend totems before😕

grizzled grotto
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The shitty L totems are just progress to custom skill scrolls now khasosrun

grim cairn
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The Arcane Staff so dry

shrewd bronze
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just got rem and tryna build her collection now, do i keep using blue totems?

pearl juniper
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yes

lost sinew
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Is it ne or the changed to collection are only good for whales?

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So the mode is now ultra p2w

jade gull
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It is lol