#collections

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hollow jolt
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wonder if prf is good for his furniture abilities 😮

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oh gosh i bet it is 😮

nova fog
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Is there a guide for the Ghoulish Gallery? I just keep going through and getting more Oculus Diabulus but I have no idea what I’m doing….

pearl juniper
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I can't remember if this is the ideal WL or not, anyone confirm?

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would be nice if we could have stuff pinned but oh well

sonic lagoon
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Which collection should I select in the goulish gallery?

hollow jolt
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Kind of okay for syl ig? XD

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Damn legendary heal gives way more than elite

hollow jolt
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I would assume you'd want that. It sounds busted. Gives guaranteed an extra slot, guaranteed 50% more base stats on item, and 100% more chance for skill up. I think also its only way to get lvl 2 collection cause you normally only have 1 slot to put skill up? And if you combo it with the other one that gives you 1 guaranteed skill up, it's good chance to get lvl 2. peggythink

sonic lagoon
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Which artifact are we supposed to be getting?

hollow jolt
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This is my wishlist 🤔

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Hmm

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The energy recovery one sounds good too though ;o;

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The sword one you put sounds awful to me

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Like "here's some good abilities and some bad ones, 10% chance when you get an ability, it flips to one of these"... like okay...? xD

late haven
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Anyone else gotten runs like this where you win but lose?

simple badger
steady tundra
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Hi all! Is the Collection stay forever? Is there any guide on priority of the Collection?

low remnant
hollow jolt
low remnant
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Yeah I feel like Err and crit are the two I struggle to get in runs

hollow jolt
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yeah i think I like yours better than mine most likely

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though idk

low remnant
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cuz I'm obv not gonna do only swag runs

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so might as well stock up on nice other rare totems

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I like the atk, full atk one as well but those runes don't seem as rare

hollow jolt
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crit doesnt do that

low remnant
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yeah it doesn't

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but I have yet to find a crit rune

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in the 15 runs I've done kHAHAsos

hollow jolt
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I think id rather have a bunch of mythic MP and Dmg resist runes than a bit of crit, lol

hollow jolt
low remnant
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yeah that's 4sure but if u can get thay juicy M or M+ crit katsos

low remnant
hollow jolt
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You cant get M+ crit with that totem unless im mistaken cause it doesnt increase the tier

low remnant
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can't u use the upgrade room on it?

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never got a M+ yet

hollow jolt
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I dont think you can upgrade an M

low remnant
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Never had the chance to try sadly

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damn then getting them naturally is gonna b hella hard

hollow jolt
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Ohh i just reread the PP one. It only has 10% chance to upgrade it

low remnant
hollow jolt
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I guess that's less impressive then. Idk what the normal chance to get PP/Dmg resist is though, so idk what increasing it by 100% means xD

low remnant
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Yeah prolly still makes a diff

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totems wouldn't b as valuable if it wasn't making any

hollow jolt
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well obviously. i just meant idk if it's more than the 10% from the crit totem

low remnant
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ik the theorycrafters are on it, I've seen spreadsheets so they'll figure it out

hollow jolt
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lol ok

low remnant
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wait

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retired? brutus brutus

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what happened?

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missed T100 by a few points as per usual

gentle nacelle
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just from discordtreznorsweat

hollow jolt
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And i value dmg resist pretty highly on Rem for instance. Idk, i feel like the pp/dmg resist one would be p nuts for her

low remnant
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I actually was T100 like 10 times during the 5 first days

low remnant
gentle nacelle
low remnant
low remnant
hollow jolt
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Actually tempted to do a wish+gift+PP/dmg resist shadow dancer for Rem right now

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i have the totems for it elethathink

gentle nacelle
low remnant
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If u go for it gl talenerise

low remnant
gentle nacelle
low remnant
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I'm saving my totems for later

gentle nacelle
low remnant
hollow jolt
low remnant
gentle nacelle
hollow jolt
low remnant
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cuz my first swag run is gonna b a rem one anyways

hollow jolt
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Lmao phone battery died

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how anticlimactic

low remnant
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during run? y

hollow jolt
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yeah xD

low remnant
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omg

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lost progress ?

hollow jolt
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doubt

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ive never lost progress before on it

low remnant
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Prayge

hollow jolt
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sometimes i would restart the game in middle of run to get to my hero box

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and come back to gallery, and progress not lost

low remnant
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all good then

hollow jolt
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yeah should be fine

gentle nacelle
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since we still don't have a 100% understanding on this sht

hollow jolt
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i mean, it says on the item what the +1 does

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so you just have to compare that against whatever stats you got shrug

low remnant
gentle nacelle
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and I'm using dancer for alna rnbongosolise

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gave better wr than +0 zol which idk why

hollow jolt
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You might lose the node you're on if its a selection node and restart, not sure

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cant remember if i was

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lol this not looking good

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hope solise can carry me

gentle nacelle
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she can't astarnomnom

hollow jolt
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lol

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well she better anyways

mortal anvil
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good run

hollow jolt
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if you say so

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mine is some of the worst luck ever 🤣

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🤣

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Least I finally got 1 swap 😓

late haven
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Anyone have a recommendation between zaph and zikis? can upgrade either one to e60 right now, not sure which is the stronger carry in this mode

mortal anvil
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zaph

late haven
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cheers

hollow jolt
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lost last 2 fights 😭

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guess solise couldnt carry 😭

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Mmmmm

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tempted to just pick buffer

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everything else seems meh

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Not terrible tbh xD

zealous forge
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Miracle worker and lvl up should be always on wishlist? And the rest of two spots should be for what abilities i need of the hero I do the relic?

hollow jolt
zealous forge
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Indeed, so I need at least 1 copy of each other

hollow jolt
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yeah you could change it when you pull what you want

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crit
err
mp/dmg resist
pp/dmg resist

seem like the best of the others, idk which ones to pick shrug

zealous forge
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Full att as well

hollow jolt
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probly crit and err would be best

zealous forge
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Yep

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And miracle worker is needed always if I want to add skills for lv 2

hollow jolt
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yeah

zealous forge
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Then I will keep the first two (Miracle worker and Lvl up) the same and changing only the 3-4 spots with the other

hollow jolt
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yea

zealous forge
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Tysm astarnomnom

hollow jolt
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customize can help too

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though probly youd use that to get more miracle worker

zealous forge
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Yeah, I've did it already and got 2-2 of miracle and lvl up

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I will make like 10 miracle worker and lvl up and after change wishlist with what I need for the hero I will do the run

hollow jolt
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i mean you can wait and do the customize thing at last second

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that's what it's for

zealous forge
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Fair enough

hollow jolt
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im sad i used the pp/dmg resist one and only got 2 pp and 0 dmg resist XD

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\o/

zealous forge
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I've used the mp and miracle worker and got this khasosrun

hollow jolt
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full erosion 😨

zealous forge
hollow jolt
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Also if you used miracle worker, why does it only have 7 skills

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miracle work gives extra slot

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😓

zealous forge
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I think I've didn't chosen other skill since it was blue ones

hollow jolt
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... lol

zealous forge
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It was on first day of the event

hollow jolt
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I think i'd stick to blue totem until you know what you're doing

zealous forge
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I use only blue totems now

grim cairn
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Same, but we got garbage collections

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I used my legend totem on the early release 😦

zealous forge
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🥲

grim cairn
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We need to learn a great legend totem comps for each heroes

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😦

stark slate
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If I want to get artifacts for Liberta, what stats should I look for?

zealous forge
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Att
F. Att
Crit

pale shoal
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what stats is best for maetria?

hoary hare
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For rem what must i chose ,in right the pp is shimering

ornate sinew
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How can i unlock the locked ones?

pearl juniper
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get a hero copy of the locked ones

ornate sinew
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Hero copy?

ornate sinew
pearl juniper
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yes a hero copy laiconfused

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a single Elite copy of a hero

royal oxide
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Each collection is a skill stollen from a hero. You need to "know" the hero to unlock the collection

ornate sinew
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So what hero do i need for shadow dancer?

royal oxide
jaunty cove
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Mythic CDA or Mythic ERR for Occulus eye?

hollow jolt
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probably ERR, what hero?

jaunty cove
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Idk I am just building one for mages

hollow jolt
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honestly doesnt even matter, id take ERR every time

jaunty cove
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Got a red MP and now I can swap another mythic

hollow jolt
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Mythic ERR is absurdly lucky tbh

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MP is really good if you want the equipped person to do dmg

jaunty cove
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So ERR is a better stat than CDA on mages like Abel and Emilia?

hollow jolt
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really?

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also does err even work on emilia? lol

vale yarrow
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ofc

hollow jolt
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I mean she works weird

vale yarrow
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err is more helpful on a support hero or trash stats

hollow jolt
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Yeah I'd have to see numbers, not sure how much ERR/CDA mythic gives

jaunty cove
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Cda mythic gives something like 17 or 19 CDA

hollow jolt
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That does sound strong

vale yarrow
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19.8

hollow jolt
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And im still wondering if ERR work on Emilia. "Emilia cannot gain Energy by attacking, getting attacked or through any other method."

vale yarrow
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ERR is like

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it buffs/increases the energy u gained by x%

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not giving energy

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per second or smth

hollow jolt
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"Emilia recovers 150 Energy every time an allied hero uses their Ultimate"

vale yarrow
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then u gained 150 +x%

jaunty cove
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We were completely fine without this bullshit ERR stathendrikbruh

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Tbh it's less worse than the likes of PRFbelovedzikis

hollow jolt
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Well if it's just 150, she needs 7 ultimate casts to get 1000 energy

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If she get like 12 ERR then it would be 6 elethathink

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But yeah think you're right cda way better

jaunty cove
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I think CDA boosts everything while ERR just boosts Ultimate

hollow jolt
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Everyone and their brother drains energy tbh, so math is probly off there xD

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yeah

jaunty cove
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Might be pretty decent on a support like Asaf idk

vale yarrow
hollow jolt
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well anything can crit i think was his point

jaunty cove
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I mean can ultimates crit?

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Anyways this new power creep is unnecessarily complicated

hollow jolt
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I'd assume ultimates can crit

jaunty cove
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For an idle mobile game at least

hollow jolt
tame topaz
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Is Energy Recovery Rate or Magic Pierce better etching for Emilia?

hollow jolt
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MP

royal oxide
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Afaik health loss can't crit

hollow jolt
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She ults immediately anyways

royal oxide
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A big chunk of emi damage is health loss

hollow jolt
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oh really?

jaunty cove
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So CDA bad on Emilia but godlike on Abel

tame topaz
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So this would be good yeah

hollow jolt
royal oxide
royal oxide
hollow jolt
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"Emilia cannot gain Energy by attacking, getting attacked or through any other method. She starts the battle with 1000 Energy and will immediately cast her Ultimate to summon Puck to assist her. Using her Ultimate skill does not cost Energy, but while Puck is present, Emilia will lose 100 Energy per second. When her Energy reaches 0, Puck goes to sleep. While Puck is summoned, it will continuously fire ice crystals at the area with the most enemies, dealing damage equal to 350% of Emilia’s Attack Rating to all targets and inflicting the Frost effect on them for 6 seconds. Each time a target with the Frost effect takes damage, they take extra damage equal to 350% of Emilia’s Attack Rating. Each enemy can only trigger this effect once every 2 seconds. While Puck is asleep, Emilia recovers 150 Energy every time an allied hero uses their Ultimate, until she uses her Ultimate to summon Puck again.

Lvl 2: The extra damage caused by Frost is increased to 450% of Emilia’s Attack Rating.
Lvl 3: Enemies that take extra damage from Frost 3 times become frozen for 2 seconds"

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just says damage

jaunty cove
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Thats why I say this powercreep is complicated

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Now we have to know the DMG types of every herounimpressedalna

hollow jolt
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yeah and distribution

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🤣

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which graph doesnt even show

royal oxide
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Your version is pre-libby patch (I think?)

hollow jolt
jaunty cove
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I want to know whether ERR is good on Daemia or not

hollow jolt
jaunty cove
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Bcuz she doesn't ullti sometimes even if her energy is full

royal oxide
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Yeah, her skill priority is a bit weird

grizzled grotto
royal oxide
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Idk either. For volcano/forest TS she would benefit more from more damage

royal oxide
grizzled grotto
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CDA is pretty good though, because Seal 15 scales off the stats of the team and Emi is often on Seal rounds

simple badger
simple badger
clever nexus
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You know what's the worst part of the collections? Getting the Refresh event some 5 times when you could be getting something more valuable like the fusion or upgrade one

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I just counted my latest run, 8 refreshes in one run. Absolutely awful with that eating up all others.

lost sinew
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The upgrade thing is insanely rare

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And I only see it floor 2 or floor 3

hot sail
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How rare is triple lvl up ?

hasty marlin
hot sail
jagged lynx
rare turtle
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Triple lvl up homegalul

untold sandal
toxic token
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3 is max lvl tho right theres no +4 homegalul

grizzled grotto
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Get a +8 by filling every slot kHAHAsos

toxic token
grizzled grotto
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+2 is max because base is +0

rare turtle
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I though base was 1

sweet folio
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chinese use 1,2,3, rest use +0 +1 +2

grizzled grotto
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Well a skill lvl 1 is a +0, a skill lvl 3 is a +2

fallow solar
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This any good for athalia?

fierce hollow
bold turtle
jade gull
fierce hollow
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I thought u was sleeping

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U sexy mfker solisestrawberry

jade gull
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tiduslaugh just woke up little bit ago

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Npastarnomnom

fierce hollow
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Can u post the whole guide plz

jade gull
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Im gonna try making some changes to it. Some of the stat recs r kinda meh

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Ill post it in a little. Almost done

fierce hollow
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Ping me when its done belindakiss

jade gull
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I can dm u the unpolished one if u wanna use it for urself

forest totem
jade gull
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Yeah its also in nihi

fierce hollow
forest totem
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It's not that hard to find it unless you're blind khasosrun

jade gull
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tiduslaugh i dont check all of em myself. Just the one for collections and cr mostly

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And ofc dopa pulls~

forest totem
jade gull
fallow solar
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Can someone link a readable guide? i cant find it in HD

nova fog
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Is there a guide for the Ghoulish Gallery? I just keep going through and getting more Oculus Diabulus but I have no idea what I’m doing…. Please and Thanks!

royal oxide
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Dec4th is way too late... They should have already wrapped up feedback and issued at least a statement to calm the player base a bit

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It's clear the community is echo chambering in negative feelings. Lilith is too quiet

lost sinew
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There is already a picture with a few fix they propose

formal orchid
stable socket
# royal oxide Dec4th is way too late... They should have already wrapped up feedback and issue...

Hello, adventurers!🔥
Since the roll-out of the new system "Collections", we've engaged in many discussions prompted by your feedback. Your insights have helped guide us a lot.
We have come up with a future optimization plan, which we're sharing with you now.

#AFKArena

formal orchid
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Thanks cero!

stable socket
jade yarrow
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What’s this guide pinned in “nihi”? Can’t find that channel WAAAHsos

outer sand
lost sinew
jade yarrow
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I wanted to do this run but idk if I chose the right totems

stable socket
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Those are the best ones to use to try for +2

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Although I wouldn't rush +2 on that one personally

jade yarrow
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So it’s better to use the Mp+ totem instead of the level ups?

stable socket
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imo you don't really need to worry about skill levels for that one specifically

jade yarrow
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What’s best to bring to +2 then? The rowan artifact?

stable socket
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That's a great one, spell binder too but that's more for bossing

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Timeline +1 is great for all tanks in pvp but shemira in specific

jade yarrow
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Thank you!

valid helm
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I hope we will be able to bring existing collection to runs and be able to save 1 or 2 abilities from previous iteration to reroll a collection's stats.

stable socket
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That would be kind of great

ionic crane
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Too convenient, Idea rejected.
jk

final tartan
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Adding/removing 1 rune each run. You have 7 attempts a week so that seems balanced. You're not abusing it that way

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(Unless you pay)

coarse cradle
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whats gud for abelinda

final tartan
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Furry hippo made a vid give it a watch

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Breaks down/translates one of the chinese guides

sweet folio
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i didn't watch it but furry hippo is unreliable at best so be warned

final tartan
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Its a chinese guide someone sent it in here

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Oh here it is

final tartan
sweet folio
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no thanks I don't want to watch him

final tartan
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Its not his guide 😂 hes just making content based on chinese content

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U dont even have to watch the vid the translation is right there

jade gull
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its basically the same thing as what ive posted then. i translate most cn guides and post it here

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im sure joux has seen most of the stuff already

sweet folio
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so link the guide instead of someone farming clicks using other ppls content 🤦🏻‍♂️

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(not you farara)

final tartan
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I replied to Farara post in here actually

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Bump.

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Ty for your time kind sir

jade gull
final tartan
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🤓

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Teach me the ways of linking instead of farming clicks

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Im not a discord professional unfortunately

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Sorry for upsetting you sir

late aurora
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No more daily staffs and attempts? feelsbelindaman

grizzled grotto
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Was only for the first week as stated in mail

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Today is day 8

late aurora
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Should've been everyday forever khasosrun

sweet folio
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maybe just the staves, i don't want an extra daily attempt

late aurora
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It'll be easier once they implement auto battle tiduslaugh

feral trench
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Making up my wishlist for this, I see miracle worker and farewell gift.. where is supreme skillset??

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Is it a purple?

faint breach
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They should make collection attempts similar to arena tickets

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I don't like the fomo I get when I don't complete this slog of a feature

sweet folio
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7 runs a week isn't a huge ask tbh

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takes like 5 mins max per run

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we just got a lot more in the first week

faint breach
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Since the content is rarely rewarding and definitely not fun, I don't think it's worth doing even once a week tbh

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There's too much all-or-nothing RNG. Little to no incremental gains

sweet folio
idle adder
sweet folio
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in a year or two I might agree, for now I have tons of big gains to get still. I have many complaints about the mode too, but those aren't among them

idle adder
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In a year or two it will be 700 more dias/week

faint breach
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I'd enjoy it if unused runs turned to diamonds too

sweet folio
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if you know you won't run it just enter and immediately exit

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then you can sell it

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but I agree would be nice if it was automatic at reset

faint breach
sweet folio
faint breach
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Already did, though I fear they care little for Western feedback and focus more on their Asian playerbase

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Might be just my experience with other games though

sweet folio
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yeah that is true, it's only when the asian playerbase riots that big changes happen. but I've seen lots of QoL stuff in #classic-suggestions make it in game shortly after

sweet folio
placid drift
sweet folio
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fair enough

faint breach
sweet folio
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oh there's that feedback thread too

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I was just looking in the suggestions

tulip fjord
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What's the best way to unlock the collections you haven't got access to yet? Mine are Zolrath, Orthros and Athlia. Should you just wait for random chance to unlock them?

sweet folio
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random chance would be nice, otherwise buy from challenger store

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prioritize all the dims first tho

tulip fjord
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Alrighty

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I was considering Alna before mulan/ldv since I have already pulled 9f for her but it seems they are valued more highly still?

placid drift
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each Dim will cost you 1million coins, that alone will take you a while

sweet folio
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yeah def dims first

tulip fjord
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Yeah it does seem like delayin gthe dims would take way too long, haha. Cheers dudes. I will stick with the dims.

jade gull
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This is going to be the final version of it unless theres more errors on it. I will be trying to compile one that is from recommendations from our own community (nihilium discord, crowdsource, my guild server, and AFK OS). prob will be asking different peeps for specific hero ones.

jolly elm
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Where would oden fall between those mage ones?

jade gull
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ur asking about what collection for oden?

jolly elm
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Yes

jade gull
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oculus

jolly elm
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I figured i was just making sure my time hasnt been wasted farming those

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The only two ive been working on are oden and jerome which ofc im doing the wrong jerome bc i literally cant do the other

placid drift
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Appreciate the note as it resonates with me too, as you know tiduslaugh

jade gull
placid drift
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we doing that new one at some point then, right? I might add notes on stuff that jumps out khasosrun

jade gull
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the new one that we make together would surely would fit better~

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yeah def making that new one. my lazy butt is pushing it off but ill at least finish up the heroes that r most meta tonight or something

placid drift
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my lazy butt is pushing it off
Guilty of that too, I didn't look/edit after you sent because I just went on with my day tiduslaughkhasosrun

jade gull
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we can making a landing page ig. with sources and our usernames

jade gull
placid drift
jade gull
placid drift
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Totally fair, this mode is hell, we shouldn't stress over it too muchtiduslaugh

jade gull
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exactly!

placid drift
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doing runs is already a chore kHAHAsos

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anyway, going to have my tea and then look at it from here tiduslaugh

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won't forget, promise khasosrun

jade gull
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tiduslaugh no rush. im chilling at work myself. gonna get to it when i am more free tonight

urban pier
jade gull
urban pier
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ahh ic thx.-.

ivory shuttle
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Thanks for the translation grezchamp

mortal anvil
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ERROR and DOCTOR

ivory shuttle
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What's wishlist prio for totems?

jade gull
vestal steppe
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how does lv3 collection items work?

strong ginkgo
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better than lv2

jagged lynx
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whats top 3 bert stats in def and off

tame topaz
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Is there a guide for which collections to give to who?

pearl juniper
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I need to get into this nihi cult man

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Doesn't liberta want erosion?

sweet folio
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chinese community seems to think erosion sucks

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idk who is right

tranquil dew
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what about erosion for emi

final crypt
pearl juniper
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I was under the impression that Liberta benefits greatly from erosion due to how his damage works

grizzled grotto
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Thing about Erosion is that most heroes don't have health-loss as the main aspect of their kit

pearl juniper
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Yeah but they excluded it from his khasosrun

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In general it's probably garbage ye

sweet folio
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yeah their doc doesn't list it on other char who will benefit, like bert or saf. they don't think it's good on them, but it seems weird to me

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pretty sure most of bert/saf/emi dmg is health loss, so erosion should be quite strong

grizzled grotto
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I think a lot of heroes might prefer ATK but ERS should still be a good alternative

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Smth like crit stats on Lib or AwSaf is really minor at least

final crypt
# pearl juniper Yeah but they excluded it from his <:khasosrun:753008852093501440>

the guide has a few weird things imo. Like tasi's wings on liberta is only useful for pvp. Its basically useless in pve and liberta is in most boss comp. Meanwhile vault is BIS in pve and still really useful in pvp.

Bottom line is, this is still very early considering the amount of new stat/effect and the nature of collection makes it very hard to test. so the guide will change over time

grizzled grotto
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For Lib specifically, ERS is kind of weak for TS

lost sinew
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Imo luminous flight is super good in TS, same as +1 zol collection

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Cheat death are the best thing

bold turtle
grizzled grotto
#

Although most offensive stats don't do much for his TS, ATK or ERR would benefit more

hollow jolt
#

Do full x apply after they die?

hollow jolt
#

Wish I knew exactly what prf applies to

#

There's so many different effects. Idk what is control and what isnt

#

Also wondering what to put on Asta

#

I read her kit and seems like she does nothing 🤣

ionic crane
#

furry hippo
yeah, how about no homegalul

west cloak
#

Should i combine the blue totems to get purple ones?

sweet folio
#

No

final crypt
# west cloak Should i combine the blue totems to get purple ones?

Only if you spend on totem. Except the 3% one, it's not worth using imo.

Let's say you average 1 mythic stat per run(this includes bad and unimportant (defensive ones on most class) ones, which are more then half of them and we cant count mythic obtained from tier up or fusion). At 3% chance to double, it would happen roughly once every 67 run or 10 weeks

If you remove bad stats, let's say 3/4 are bad or not particularly impactful. It's once every 268 run or 38 weeks.

You also need to consider that you can swap this M stat into other ones but since you get most of them at floor 9 or 10, it wouldn't make that much of a difference.

Tldr: most purple totem would give you more benefits then 20 3% blue totem

frank edge
#

Mae or nay?

jade gull
#

good until u find something better

frank edge
#

Yeah trying to give everyone something

#

Before swag runs

jade gull
frank edge
#

Atk or crit for vei

#

First time seeing a crit belovedzikis

indigo sequoia
#

How/when do folks plan to use their totems? I was thinking just pulling every week until one (or no) L, to get use of the wishlist, but stop after. And for wl, miracle, lvl up, PP, MP - thoughts?

indigo sequoia
frank edge
#

Hmm but is crit worth it on vei

#

Or just pick purple atk

#

No PP but lots of atk kHAHAsos

grizzled grotto
#

Crit should make str heroes more consistent

#

F.atk should be best for Vei though

frank edge
#

tyty and damn i should have swapped the M F.Atk with L Atks

vague sun
#

IS M over F.Attack Elite ?

indigo sequoia
vague sun
#

Its for Solise .. but maybe for Ivan too

noble sable
#

terrible

sweet folio
#

mega sad

torpid delta
#

@noble sable thats usable on abaden atleast

grizzled grotto
#

F.Atk in general is better for all the sust that don't have scaling buffs though

#

So 4x F.Atk is better for smth like Twins

sterile fern
#

which collection should abel use? was thinking the shemira one as +2 for more ults but idk

jade gull
#

oculus

forest totem
#

reparo

topaz yacht
#

Which best totems I could use for Rem?

stable palm
#

Anyone got that image that says whats the priority abilities to get on a collection for a specific character

junior ingot
#

Should i use blue and purple totems each run or its better to combine them for yellow?

grizzled grotto
#

Hold off from combining for the time being, you can always just do it later

stuck frigate
stable palm
stuck frigate
zenith vigil
velvet terrace
#

thats better than most lol

grizzled grotto
#

Armor kinda useless unless you're planning on running it on like Eluard

glass patio
#

Was making this for Merlin. Too bad everything is orange. 🫠

zenith vigil
#

bruh that's better than nothing

velvet terrace
#

which one is better for scarlet

sweet folio
#

Is that even a question rakuhmm

candid burrow
#

the second

velvet terrace
#

thanks

zenith vigil
velvet terrace
#

is it because of the magic pierce?

#

also does def really even do anything

candid burrow
#

yes, offense stats are way more important

#

defense increase isnt really good in most cases. damage resist is good though if you can get it

sterile fern
#

for abel?

jade gull
#

Yeah! Pretty decent! That skill +2 cda atk all look great!

primal rose
#

Hi is the +2 on Cover's wording "optimal" for energy and health separate? Meaning the highest energy and health within the last 5 seconds get chosen instead of the most optimal as combined health and energy? Apologies if my phrasing makes it more confusingtiduslaugh

karmic bloom
#

Hey all, whats the priorities for collections in terms of which ones to create?

proven falcon
topaz yacht
#

MP will increase damage from aSolise?

hoary hare
#

I hate collection when i full legen i just get a hero even though I want a Tier increase

jade gull
restive shoal
#

@spice cloak sorry for the ping misty, BUT ITS MY 1ST SKILL LV+1 AND IDW TO F THE ETCHING UP kHAHAsos kHAHAsos kHAHAsos

#

Only the usual 3+3+1 slots floradeadeyes

#

Could use this on the new mooler yoyo mama

jade gull
restive shoal
#

Send help what to add homegalul

#

I wanna sleep soon too

#

Nearly 6am

jade gull
restive shoal
#

Extra slot occupied by Skill Lv +1

proven falcon
#

for def id just take the three purple/orange ones

#

For offense, depends on if you want to make it for a health loss hero or not

spice cloak
proper sandal
#

Which one do u guys think is better for Abel

final crypt
#

Guide says mp is more important but I'd test both against bosses to be sure, (they'll reimburse the 100 diamonds next update)

jade gull
#

cda prob better ngl

#

the guide we currently have floating rn is a translation and some of the stuff seems meh

sweet folio
#

erosion does help a bit, but then so does err. does err effect energy gain from other sources (ivan, palmer, etc?)

rancid vessel
#

Does erosion work on Amshemira?

jade gull
#

awshemira?

#

no.

#

she does not have healthloss skills

rancid vessel
#

i got 2 mythic erosion on a tank collection. Any tanks that can use erosion?

jade gull
#

naro does

rancid vessel
#

Thanks

#

Wanted to put this on shemira

jade gull
#

ofc. if u got questions abt collections feel free to always come here and ask. someone will answer (i try as well)

jade gull
#

those reds wow

rancid vessel
#

Yea I got really lucky.

#

Should I add pp instead?

jade gull
#

this is for naro right?

rancid vessel
#

I already have a collection for him. Im thinking other tanks on the guide

jade gull
#

overall tanks dont like mp/pp. exception is awshem that likes mp

rancid vessel
#

right. Not sure which to pick then

jade gull
#

ers is r borth good. ers is naro specific. ers as a stat is very hero specific (most heroes dont have healthloss)

rancid vessel
#

yea, i might use this for naroko instead, i dont want to waste the stats.

jade gull
#

shed be awesome with thos ers for sure

inner rivet
#

if i have 2 oculus' (one has 4x mp, the other has 2x cda 2x full atk) am i correct in thinking abel should get the one with cda? unfortunately neither has red stats, but they're at least mostly yellow

noble sable
#

That’s just shit unless they are lvl upped to 3

jade gull
raven geyser
#

Is anybody else having a problem with the game

tulip gulch
raven geyser
#

Okay good I was just wanting to make sure

toxic chasm
#

anyone else getting a negative number of attempts?

sweet folio
#

yeah they took away 3 attempts from everyone... even if you had less than 3 attempts lol. I'm sure it wil be put back

idle adder
#

i got 9 for free

indigo sequoia
#

-3 attempts remaining. Guess I need to return some collections now sadira

sweet folio
#

I had 5 now just 2

idle adder
grizzled grotto
toxic chasm
#

i just wanted to play another game mode while mystic starzone was down WAAAHsos

jade gull
median pier
#

-3 gang

restive shoal
#

i swear I'm too obsessed w getting LL on everyone

sweet folio
#

When did the famous cellist yo yo ma get added to the game

restive shoal
#

Next mooler

#

Spins beyblades

hasty marlin
#

she's fat

restive shoal
#

hopefully she's not 🚮 on actual testing

#

waiting for misty to be free to come back to reply to me later before confirming the collection etching kHAHAsos

hasty marlin
#

hopefully she IS

#

i hope the next 10 heroes are walker tier so we can actually pretend this game is f2p friendly again

#

they’ll all be meta doe

restive shoal
#

nah, gotta make sure all the new heroes have thesis text descript, so we can keep guessing if they meta or not

iron hare
#

This 'chance to outright fail and not even reach level 10 with collection' is dogshit

#

Why does this rubbish mechanic even exist

#

How do I recycle rubbish collection

ionic crane
#

just keep it for now.
You might need it for TS teams.

But its Bag > Collection, there will be recycle or smth button there

iron hare
#

I sold it anyway because it's dumb and stupid

#

They have audacity to leave it unchanged for more than two weeks

hasty violet
#

literally no one in the game has remotely enough CDR for it to be useful WAAAHsos

cinder arrow
#

he's future proofing

grizzled grotto
restive shoal
#

Is there enough crit though

grizzled grotto
#

All int heroes have high crit

spice cloak
#

Basically double damage on crits 😂

young stone
#

Where can you see what the third ability of the artifict are?

#

It only shows two in the preview

mellow furnace
zenith vigil
#

What should I focus on for awaken Solise

zenith vigil
bold turtle
#

Max dmg is 60 cda more than enemies cdr

sweet folio
#

that's already 60 cda on the artifact, plus what the hero has

#

not many enemies will have that much cdr. still good tho

bold turtle
#

With collections being meta on all heroes now that changes heavily no?

#

But yeah the last orange cda is prob overkill

sweet folio
#

prob fine in pvp, not cr

#

tho some enemy in cr like skreg in 2? rotations has a lot of cdr too

grizzled grotto
#

Palmer's buff also gives like 50+ CDA

bold turtle
#

Takes time tho

#

So matters more for cr

grizzled grotto
#

I think most AwBel rounds overheat before they timeout anyway, so it doesn't really make a diff

sweet folio
#

much rather have mp or attk on at least one or two of those cda nodes, but it is what it is. not like you get to choose

granite fern
#

Gonna flex my mid berta collection

placid drift
hasty violet
#

but an average palmer is expected to provide an average abelinda with ~100 CDA before her own buffs kick in

#

with that CDA that's gonna be like ~130

#

I don't think anything in the game has 70 CDR

#

maybe excluding AE bosses, but then you have artifacts for those anyways

grizzled grotto
#

Oh I forgot she also had the CDA buff from 9F

proven falcon
#

lol how often do you see Palmer ult in pvp ardenS

#

it takes like 17 seconds or something

tall peak
#

How's this for Rem?

jade gull
#

Please note of the following changes not edited in the guide:

  1. Palmer: should be MP instead of PP
pallid hamlet
#

Wow, the devs are true morons, didn't get offered any hero upgrades, just new heroes so I died at f6 with all lvl 100s

#

This game mode is making me want to quit... How bad is it if I just ignore completely?

#

I've been running +skill but haven't seen one once in 7 runs

jade gull
#

Ur better off running blue totems u til sweep is available

pallid hamlet
#

Yeah, I realize that now... I thought it was just bad luck since people keep posting such good ones while I don't even get a single red most runs

#

But this is beyond that, along with failing a run due to RNG...

jade gull
#

I have several failed runs. At least ik im using blue ones so it doesn’t hurt as much

sweet folio
#

if you care about those modes, it's pretty big

olive sky
jade gull
#

isathumbsup i post everything i find~

olive sky
#

running 3 blues for aBaden

jade gull
pallid hamlet
#

Getting this right at the start is so stupid . ..

jade gull
#

life

proven falcon
jade gull
#

better to craft both for ashem for cr at least

pallid hamlet
#

This even useful for anyone?

jade gull
lost sinew
#

sadly the stats aren't but it's ok

jade gull
#

^^^

lost sinew
jade gull
#

they shared it themselves saying to share elsewhere so

lost sinew
#

ahhh ok

#

then it isn't a leak, they should have posted it on reddit themselves haha

jade gull
#

yeah. posting themselves would be the best but they dont care much. they just wanna spread good infotalenerise

lost sinew
#

Well that's refreshing

#

I know they had their TS guides leaked before and they stopped making them because of that

rare turtle
#

Is the guide with the stat for collec pinned somewhere? rakuhmm

olive sky
olive sky
#

and that guide is on purpose out

olive sky
olive sky
ionic crane
olive sky
#

You should thanks Felix and Lap.

#

If you look closely, you see on some Hero having the priority about their Head, it says which level it's recomanded, if you get +1 then enough, but if you get +2 even way better. And side note, you can't really target +2s, and by the time you get a drop you should already have an outline which hero it'd fit the best, that's why don't focus to much on it.

#

+2 is more suited for PvP only.

lost sinew
olive sky
#

Consider it as Early Christmas❤️

lost sinew
#

tbh, I got a farly good grasp of collections, so that guides hurt my ranking as it makes others stronger lmao but I’m sure it will help with player retention

olive sky
#

Still depending mostly on luck

lost sinew
#

100% and I think its about making a coherent artifact

#

Not just going for stats that don’t work together or aren’t useful lol

#

Soon we’ll have so many we won’t know what to do with them haha

#

It will just be a pain to swap them for ts then cr/nc attempts

olive sky
lost sinew
#

At least we can sell them for 100 dia

tame topaz
#

Lvl 3 collection needs 2 lvl+ etchings right

jade gull
#

nah, more like tons of luck

lost sinew
tame topaz
#

🗿

#

Alright, then would sub-par etchings be fine if a collection has a lvl+ regardless?

sweet folio
#

Most ppl run miracle worker with farewell gift to maximize odds

tame topaz
#

Or if it's terrible rolls everywhere then I just kinda leave it

sweet folio
#

Depends on hero and artifact. Some heros want stats, others the ability is better.

tame topaz
#

guhh i hate this system

sweet folio
#

Yeah same I have no miracle worker

#

Scam game mode

tame topaz
#

i had a giga roll on one other thing initially but then team rng omega screwed me

#

so i had like.. 5* rowan going into floor 9 and just died there

#

very cool 👍

karmic bloom
#

desired stats for tank artifact?

#

i mean collection*

jade gull
#

depends on hero but generally avoid pp/mp

sturdy marsh
#

Blue rakutongue

steep pond
#

i'm on floor 2, guess who they really wanted me to use tiduslaugh

timber shuttle
#

She was a fiary

inner rivet
#

are there any supports that really like having +hp? i rolled 2x red and 1x yellow +hp lol

inner rivet
#

even over +heal?

jade gull
#

?

#

heal prob better than hp for asol

inner rivet
#

ok yeah that's what i thought

grim cairn
#

Tank sub stats?

jade gull
#

sub?

grim cairn
#

Dont add IS and full erosion right?

jade gull
#

two types of stats: offensive or defensive

grim cairn
#

Uh albedo

jade gull
#

depends on who its for

#

lemme check real quick

jade gull
grim cairn
#

Roll doesn't have def or hp

#

I think because i didn't use the proper totem

jade gull
#

hmp

grim cairn
#

So what 3 stats should i put

jade gull
#

who do u use bedo with typically

#

emi?

grim cairn
#

Rem

jade gull
ionic crane
#

Just dont pick CBR on Albedo.
E60 needs her to be crit'd to proc

jade gull
#

u dont have much options but f.ers there.....

ionic crane
jade gull
#

prob f.ers then yeah

jade gull
grim cairn
#

Bro so many IS stats

#

Should i go for the common one

jade gull
#

IS stat for albedo is rly meh

grim cairn
#

Yeah

#

Doesn't have much cc

jade gull
#

prob f.ers. theres consistent cr rounds where u use emi and bedo together

#

emi prob can benefit from bedo's f.ers

#

u prob wanna eventually craft a new one for em

grim cairn
#

Or should i just screw this one and try to roll for DPS Albedo, she somehow deal more damage than my rem sometimes

jade gull
#

just do f.ers for now and use it. prob later on u can craft a new one

grim cairn
#

Kinda unusable💀

jade gull
#

at least u got skill+1

grim cairn
#

Totems for proper build?

jade gull
#

dr isnt bad, full stats can be usefull too

#

ers is kinda meh

grim cairn
#

Im running out of totem

#

Recomended reserved DPS Albedo

timber shuttle
grim cairn
#

RNGisathumbsup

valid timber
#

Do you keep seal on wl after hitting 18? -sorry fro wrong chat didnt notice

grizzled grotto
#

No

pearl juniper
#

pets after 18 are the equivalent of furn after 9

#

except reso 18 is OP

valid timber
#

Okay I see time to get my reso up then cuz that’s embarrassing atm

grizzled grotto
pearl juniper
#

there's no lvl 18's you'd get before activating resonance rakuhmm

grizzled grotto
#

Yeah khasosrun

quasi mango
#

im on 3k baits waiting for a nerw pet :_:

grizzled grotto
#

Next beast seems kinda far away

#

Probably won't be patch after Vika when it's double AW

quasi mango
#

double awaken?

#

i need a suga mother

jade gull
#

I think theyre pushing it off for Christmas special patch but we’ll c

quasi mango
#

ah get the christmas money off people

crimson wagon
#

When is reset? I still have 9 more times 😦

jade gull
crimson wagon
jade gull
#

treznorsweat none yet

stable socket
olive sky
crimson wagon
olive sky
#

How so? I do enjoy it

#

but that doesn't mean i am an Masochist

granite fern
#

I take collection as a free 100 dias income tiduslaugh

sweet folio
#

Surely you aren't at the point where every hero has a good collection notsureiferael

grizzled grotto
granite fern
#

i think of it as a motivation to clear it max weekly

twilit turtle
zenith vigil
#

should i go F.ATK - ATK on daimon or there is something else better?

granite fern
#

Damage resistance I think or damage reduction

zealous forge
#

Is there a new guide for collections?elethathink

zealous forge
#

Tysm astarnomnom

zenith vigil
#

and here's an update

#

that was 1 day ago

zealous forge
#

I really appreciate :3

zenith vigil
zealous forge
#

Didn't got any better, it should work on Palmer or Ivan? I've already checked the guides but want to know if I should try more

jade gull
#

Pp doesnt work on palmer or ivan. The rest of the stuff works on either

sweet folio
#

Why put pp and mp on the same one rakuhmm

zealous forge
#

Didn't had others :/

zealous forge
sweet folio
zealous forge
#

Oh, so instead of that I should've chosen other

sweet folio
zealous forge
#

Oh, tysm astarnomnom astarnomnom

zenith vigil
#

can somebody please tell me what's useful on Daimon?

terse flint
#

How does +1 and +2 work? Isn't there only 1 extra level per collection?

jade gull
#

ppl found out lvl 2 skill abilities soon after the system was introduced

edgy tide
#

Huh does aShem want atk ?

#

Sorry new to collections

edgy tide
#

Sorry but does full HEAL increase hp or healing?

zenith vigil
#

healing

edgy tide
#

It says it increases health but from the name I’d assume it’s healing

zenith vigil
#

but no one use it anyways

candid burrow
#

full heal = max hp to the team

jade gull
zenith vigil
jade gull
#

f.hp=f.heal r the same in game

#

bad naming ngl

zenith vigil
#

was it on a guide?

#

maybe reddit

jade gull
#

yeah thats prob me

candid burrow
#

in english, the stat says full heal but it actually grants %hp to your team.

jade gull
#

^^^^

candid burrow
#

idk about other languages

jade gull
#

cn also has it messed up

#

also called full heal in cn but means full hp technically lycapalm

candid burrow
#

oh yeah, i just meant in-game the stat is worded wrong

jade gull
#

yeap. game has many bad word choice, buffer...like what do u mean by buffer lol

ruby flame
#

is there a screenshot of what stats different characters want somewhere?

jade gull
ruby flame
#

gotcha tyry

jade gull
edgy tide
#

Oh man

#

Is buffer useful anywhere?

jade gull
edgy tide
#

I got 2 L buffer belovedzikis

jade gull
#

somewhat useful for pvp

#

more of a ts stat (weak one)

edgy tide
#

Like this for aShem

#

Sad it isn’t +1 tho

ruby flame
#

which totems should i be using for an abel run?

#

and what does the +2 mean for level?

viral zephyr
#

which collection is best for ivan

jade gull
#

run blue totems for now until we have sweep on the system (unless u can afford using the better ones)

jade gull
viral zephyr
#

this for my Scarlett

jade gull
#

wow nice~

edgy tide
#

Do I gamble?

jade gull
#

for who?

edgy tide
#

aShem

#

Low floor

jade gull
#

id do it astarnomnom

edgy tide
jade gull
#

i gamble my chances~

edgy tide
#

All I need to hear

jade gull
#

@noble ravine u keep on typing and disappear! im curious what u were gonna say tiduslaugh

edgy tide
jade gull
#

wow nice!

ruby flame
#

any tips for team building in collection runs?

jade gull
#

always pick hero upgrade no matter how good the other heroes look. if u have to pick a hero, pick one from the faction that u have the most

ruby flame
#

gotcha ty

jade gull
#

u lurk and dissapear astarnomnom

ruby flame
#

i can do a lot better for ivan right

jade gull
#

u got that lvl+1 its not as bad as u think

ruby flame
#

isathumbsup oh gotcha

jade gull
ruby flame
#

would this one be better for ivan

ionic crane
#

bro

#

you can get two skill levels and have no place to put both?????????

jade gull
#

u gotta be very lucky and unlucky and the same time lol

ionic crane
#

this gotta be a joke, how is it possible?

jade gull
#

its cause u need that one totem that opens a 8th slot for u

#

then ud have a lvl 3 collection

ionic crane
#

what totem? ffs

jade gull
#

or skill+2

jade gull
ionic crane
#

im done with this game.'

jade gull
ionic crane
#

So which of those dogshits are better for rem?

jade gull
#

theyre so much better than mine lol

#

left one cause u got skill+1

#

both r real good thou

ionic crane
#

yea imagine if i didnt usee the farewell gift just to have an extra +1 skill that i cant use

#

so is first really better just because of the +1? is it worth trading it for 16% increased attack and an extra 2.68pp?

jade gull
#

u can try both and test

#

both look solid

ionic crane
#

hmm ok thanks

jade gull
ionic crane
#

i was wondering why everybody hates the new collections now i get it. you try 30 runs and when you finally get two +1 skills you cant place both.

jade gull
ancient bay
#

Anyone know which collection is a good one to start with?
Bit hard for this dumdum to decide.

ionic crane
#

get collection for your best carry/dmg dealer in TS and CR

ancient bay
#

I don't really ... have one?
I just use whoever the leaderboard says to use.

#

Should I just post box?

clear tundra
sweet folio
#

Time to alna carry

ancient bay
#

I just did a run, got to Floor 10, and just tossed the highest tier buffs I found onto here.
That right or there smth I should prioritize?
I'm thinking of putting this on ABelinda.

#

Clockwise it's Full Def, Full Buffer, Tenacity, Attack, Life Leech, Magic Pierce, and Full Erosion.

#

I'm asking cause it says I won't be able to change it once I etch them.

ionic crane
#

throw away full erosion

ancient bay
ionic crane
#

Err gud

#

and also rare

ancient bay
#

Oooh, really?
Good to know.

#

Thanks for the advice!

ionic crane
#

:worrysalute:

ancient bay
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Also it seems as a reward for getting to floor 10 I got all the other collections.

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Huh.

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I wonder who I should slap them onto.

clear tundra
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Wtf, it looks bad

sweet folio
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So many red but so sad at the same time

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Sorry for your loss

hasty marlin
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breh

clear tundra
ancient bay
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I got the choice to swap the tiers of two things.
Which to swap?
This is a Trader's Vault which I'm planning to give to Liberta.

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I guess I'm just trying to figure out what's the best skill to swap with buffer or full defense.

hasty marlin
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swap into +100 diamonds

ancient bay
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I think this turned out alright.

torpid delta
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The best I've had since release tbh

sweet folio
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That's beautiful

ancient bay
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When are you supposed to use collections, are they only for TS and CR or do you just slap them onto the hero you want and roll with that?
Or do you need to build the perfect collection for that to pay off?

hasty marlin
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well collections are horribly implemented but obviously use them wherever artifacts aren't allowed, since you have nothing to lose

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i wouldn't worry too much about the stuff until they remove the timer crap, even then a decent to good collection will prolly always be better cept for specific stages where book/call/etc plays a big role since energy > stats

marble yew
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Yeah collection is crazy...even can use in rift whereas artifact can't use there🤯🤯

hasty marlin
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yeah makes perfect sense and doesn’t conflict with each other at all!

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if they actually released them without the cooldown you might assume it’s just a weird system without a lot of foresight lol. but with the cooldown, and the obvious conflicts, it’s clear they put 0 thought into this

paper wasp
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@jade gull should i swap the atk stat?

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for emilia potentially

jade gull
paper wasp
jade gull
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then keep.

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dont refresh that one

paper wasp
jade gull
paper wasp
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refresh the Leg. Atk one?

jade gull
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refresh purple buffer

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prob

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atk is overall a good stat. if u dont get any good offensive stat can always just use em

grizzled grotto
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Refresh M into Skill +1 kHAHAsos

paper wasp
grizzled grotto
jade gull
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thats y i dont risk it lol

paper wasp
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got that after

jade gull
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tiduslaugh isathumbsup then its not bad~

paper wasp
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should i use that full heal?

jade gull
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can always swap later

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i mean yeah if u dont have better ones

grizzled grotto
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I got an M MP from stats at end when it was for a cele collec treznorsweat

jade gull
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id be so done lol

paper wasp
grizzled grotto
jade gull
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^^^

grizzled grotto
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An actual f.heal doesn't exist and f.HP is called f.heal

jade gull
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^^^^

paper wasp
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what elseWAAAHsos

jade gull
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purple dr

paper wasp