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Is there a guide for the Ghoulish Gallery? I just keep going through and getting more Oculus Diabulus but I have no idea what I’m doing….
I can't remember if this is the ideal WL or not, anyone confirm?
would be nice if we could have stuff pinned but oh well
Which collection should I select in the goulish gallery?
I would assume you'd want that. It sounds busted. Gives guaranteed an extra slot, guaranteed 50% more base stats on item, and 100% more chance for skill up. I think also its only way to get lvl 2 collection cause you normally only have 1 slot to put skill up? And if you combo it with the other one that gives you 1 guaranteed skill up, it's good chance to get lvl 2. 
Which artifact are we supposed to be getting?
This is my wishlist 🤔
Hmm
The energy recovery one sounds good too though ;o;
The sword one you put sounds awful to me
Like "here's some good abilities and some bad ones, 10% chance when you get an ability, it flips to one of these"... like okay...? xD

Hi all! Is the Collection stay forever? Is there any guide on priority of the Collection?
same, miracle, gift, err and crit as last
ooh didnt see the crit one, nice
Yeah I feel like Err and crit are the two I struggle to get in runs
cuz I'm obv not gonna do only swag runs
so might as well stock up on nice other rare totems

I like the atk, full atk one as well but those runes don't seem as rare
Idk. the Mp/Dmg resist one increases the tier of the token
crit doesnt do that
I think id rather have a bunch of mythic MP and Dmg resist runes than a bit of crit, lol
i found a crit and an err rune in 1 run on blue totems only recently
yeah that's 4sure but if u can get thay juicy M or M+ crit 
that's sick, I have better rates with ERR than crit
You cant get M+ crit with that totem unless im mistaken cause it doesnt increase the tier
I dont think you can upgrade an M
Never had the chance to try sadly
damn then getting them naturally is gonna b hella hard

Ohh i just reread the PP one. It only has 10% chance to upgrade it

I guess that's less impressive then. Idk what the normal chance to get PP/Dmg resist is though, so idk what increasing it by 100% means xD
Yeah prolly still makes a diff
totems wouldn't b as valuable if it wasn't making any
well obviously. i just meant idk if it's more than the 10% from the crit totem
ik the theorycrafters are on it, I've seen spreadsheets so they'll figure it out
lol ok
how was ts
Hey ducky
wait
retired?

what happened?
missed T100 by a few points as per usual
just from discord
And i value dmg resist pretty highly on Rem for instance. Idk, i feel like the pp/dmg resist one would be p nuts for her
I actually was T100 like 10 times during the 5 first days
oh u scared me there, how are the studies going?
stressful but 1 more week to go and im done with the sem
that's my rem's one, feels very good
u got this ducky
Actually tempted to do a wish+gift+PP/dmg resist shadow dancer for Rem right now
i have the totems for it 
why not use +1?
If u go for it gl 
this is from 0 totems 
u haven't gotten the free +1?
I'm saving my totems for later

me too
wym? gift or the purple one?

the free dancer collection with +1
watch me die on lvl 8
hm it's less cmbr, does the +1 make such a big diff? cuz I feel like the one I currently have is big
cuz my first swag run is gonna b a rem one anyways
yeah xD
Prayge
sometimes i would restart the game in middle of run to get to my hero box
and come back to gallery, and progress not lost
all good then
yeah should be fine
i think +1 is better than stats for now?
since we still don't have a 100% understanding on this sht
i mean, it says on the item what the +1 does
so you just have to compare that against whatever stats you got shrug
i honestly dk u might b right , i mostly use em for powercap
You might lose the node you're on if its a selection node and restart, not sure
cant remember if i was
lol this not looking good

hope solise can carry me
she can't 
lol
well she better anyways
good run
if you say so
mine is some of the worst luck ever 🤣
🤣
Least I finally got 1 swap 😓
Anyone have a recommendation between zaph and zikis? can upgrade either one to e60 right now, not sure which is the stronger carry in this mode
zaph
cheers
lost last 2 fights 😭
guess solise couldnt carry 😭
Mmmmm
tempted to just pick buffer
everything else seems meh
Not terrible tbh xD
Miracle worker and lvl up should be always on wishlist? And the rest of two spots should be for what abilities i need of the hero I do the relic?
I mean you're gonna make a lot of relics for lot of heroes
Indeed, so I need at least 1 copy of each other
yeah you could change it when you pull what you want
crit
err
mp/dmg resist
pp/dmg resist
seem like the best of the others, idk which ones to pick shrug
Full att as well
probly crit and err would be best
yeah
Then I will keep the first two (Miracle worker and Lvl up) the same and changing only the 3-4 spots with the other
yea
Tysm 
Yeah, I've did it already and got 2-2 of miracle and lvl up
I will make like 10 miracle worker and lvl up and after change wishlist with what I need for the hero I will do the run
full erosion 😨

Also if you used miracle worker, why does it only have 7 skills
miracle work gives extra slot
😓
I think I've didn't chosen other skill since it was blue ones
... lol
It was on first day of the event
I think i'd stick to blue totem until you know what you're doing
I use only blue totems now
🥲
If I want to get artifacts for Liberta, what stats should I look for?
Att
F. Att
Crit
what stats is best for maetria?
For rem what must i chose ,in right the pp is shimering
get a hero copy of the locked ones
Hero copy?
?^
Each collection is a skill stollen from a hero. You need to "know" the hero to unlock the collection
So what hero do i need for shadow dancer?
Saurus
Mythic CDA or Mythic ERR for Occulus eye?
probably ERR, what hero?
Idk I am just building one for mages
honestly doesnt even matter, id take ERR every time
Got a red MP and now I can swap another mythic
Mythic ERR is absurdly lucky tbh
MP is really good if you want the equipped person to do dmg
So ERR is a better stat than CDA on mages like Abel and Emilia?
:no:
cda >>
ofc
I mean she works weird
err is more helpful on a support hero or trash stats
Cda mythic gives something like 17 or 19 CDA
That does sound strong
19.8
And im still wondering if ERR work on Emilia. "Emilia cannot gain Energy by attacking, getting attacked or through any other method."
then no
ERR is like
it buffs/increases the energy u gained by x%
not giving energy
per second or smth
We were completely fine without this bullshit ERR stat
Tbh it's less worse than the likes of PRF
Well if it's just 150, she needs 7 ultimate casts to get 1000 energy
If she get like 12 ERR then it would be 6 
But yeah think you're right cda way better
I think CDA boosts everything while ERR just boosts Ultimate
Might be pretty decent on a support like Asaf idk
crit dmg, not everything
well anything can crit i think was his point
I mean can ultimates crit?
Anyways this new power creep is unnecessarily complicated
I'd assume ultimates can crit
For an idle mobile game at least

Is Energy Recovery Rate or Magic Pierce better etching for Emilia?
MP
Afaik health loss can't crit
She ults immediately anyways
A big chunk of emi damage is health loss
oh really?
So CDA bad on Emilia but godlike on Abel
So this would be good yeah
From what
Not sure if bad... But attack and mp apply more generally
Read her ult. It procs on frost enemies
"Emilia cannot gain Energy by attacking, getting attacked or through any other method. She starts the battle with 1000 Energy and will immediately cast her Ultimate to summon Puck to assist her. Using her Ultimate skill does not cost Energy, but while Puck is present, Emilia will lose 100 Energy per second. When her Energy reaches 0, Puck goes to sleep. While Puck is summoned, it will continuously fire ice crystals at the area with the most enemies, dealing damage equal to 350% of Emilia’s Attack Rating to all targets and inflicting the Frost effect on them for 6 seconds. Each time a target with the Frost effect takes damage, they take extra damage equal to 350% of Emilia’s Attack Rating. Each enemy can only trigger this effect once every 2 seconds. While Puck is asleep, Emilia recovers 150 Energy every time an allied hero uses their Ultimate, until she uses her Ultimate to summon Puck again.
Lvl 2: The extra damage caused by Frost is increased to 450% of Emilia’s Attack Rating.
Lvl 3: Enemies that take extra damage from Frost 3 times become frozen for 2 seconds"
just says damage
Thats why I say this powercreep is complicated
Now we have to know the DMG types of every hero
They rephrased it when health loss became explicit
Your version is pre-libby patch (I think?)
you right
I want to know whether ERR is good on Daemia or not
Bcuz she doesn't ullti sometimes even if her energy is full
Yeah, her skill priority is a bit weird
MP and CDA affect the same parts of her kit
Neither affect health-loss
Idk either. For volcano/forest TS she would benefit more from more damage
True. Only attack is perfect for her then, I guess. Maybe erosion > mp
CDA is pretty good though, because Seal 15 scales off the stats of the team and Emi is often on Seal rounds
Why does your shadow dancer on the left have 3 levels? Is it by rng?
Miracle worker totem
ahh i see, shit i have been exchanging the guaranteed level only, thanks
You know what's the worst part of the collections? Getting the Refresh event some 5 times when you could be getting something more valuable like the fusion or upgrade one
I just counted my latest run, 8 refreshes in one run. Absolutely awful with that eating up all others.
How rare is triple lvl up ?
deciding which part of this god awful trash is the worst is a tall order
Triple lvl up 
3 is max lvl tho right theres no +4 
Get a +8 by filling every slot 

+2 is max because base is +0
I though base was 1
chinese use 1,2,3, rest use +0 +1 +2
Well a skill lvl 1 is a +0, a skill lvl 3 is a +2
This any good for athalia?
Best collection and stats for worm ?
It's good enough to use
Im gonna try making some changes to it. Some of the stat recs r kinda meh
Ill post it in a little. Almost done
Ping me when its done 
I can dm u the unpolished one if u wanna use it for urself
Motherducker it's pinned in Nihi
Yeah its also in nihi
There way too many channels motherducker 
Only 1 for collections 
It's not that hard to find it unless you're blind 
i dont check all of em myself. Just the one for collections and cr mostly
And ofc dopa pulls~



Can someone link a readable guide? i cant find it in HD
Is there a guide for the Ghoulish Gallery? I just keep going through and getting more Oculus Diabulus but I have no idea what I’m doing…. Please and Thanks!
Dec4th is way too late... They should have already wrapped up feedback and issued at least a statement to calm the player base a bit
It's clear the community is echo chambering in negative feelings. Lilith is too quiet
There is already a picture with a few fix they propose
Where ? Can you link/post it?
Thanks cero!

What’s this guide pinned in “nihi”? Can’t find that channel 
they’re talking abt a different server
Thx for the image, I tried to find it and failed haha
Ow… we don’t have that here? That would be useful, esp for abelinda rn
I wanted to do this run but idk if I chose the right totems
Those are the best ones to use to try for +2
Although I wouldn't rush +2 on that one personally
So it’s better to use the Mp+ totem instead of the level ups?
imo you don't really need to worry about skill levels for that one specifically
What’s best to bring to +2 then? The rowan artifact?
That's a great one, spell binder too but that's more for bossing
Timeline +1 is great for all tanks in pvp but shemira in specific
Thank you!
I hope we will be able to bring existing collection to runs and be able to save 1 or 2 abilities from previous iteration to reroll a collection's stats.
That would be kind of great
Too convenient, Idea rejected.
jk
Adding/removing 1 rune each run. You have 7 attempts a week so that seems balanced. You're not abusing it that way
(Unless you pay)
whats gud for abelinda
Furry hippo made a vid give it a watch
Breaks down/translates one of the chinese guides
i didn't watch it but furry hippo is unreliable at best so be warned
Take a look and give the people your verdict sir
no thanks I don't want to watch him
Its not his guide 😂 hes just making content based on chinese content
U dont even have to watch the vid the translation is right there
its basically the same thing as what ive posted then. i translate most cn guides and post it here
im sure joux has seen most of the stuff already
so link the guide instead of someone farming clicks using other ppls content 🤦🏻♂️
(not you farara)

🤓
Teach me the ways of linking instead of farming clicks
Im not a discord professional unfortunately
Sorry for upsetting you sir
No more daily staffs and attempts? 
Should've been everyday forever 
maybe just the staves, i don't want an extra daily attempt
It'll be easier once they implement auto battle 
Making up my wishlist for this, I see miracle worker and farewell gift.. where is supreme skillset??
Is it a purple?
They should make collection attempts similar to arena tickets
I don't like the fomo I get when I don't complete this slog of a feature
7 runs a week isn't a huge ask tbh
takes like 5 mins max per run
we just got a lot more in the first week
It's not 7 runs a week, you get more each day and additional runs on the weekend iirc
Since the content is rarely rewarding and definitely not fun, I don't think it's worth doing even once a week tbh
There's too much all-or-nothing RNG. Little to no incremental gains
no, the 1 a day was just for the opening event. you will get just 7 a week, to use any time during the week, from now on

in a year or two I might agree, for now I have tons of big gains to get still. I have many complaints about the mode too, but those aren't among them
In a year or two it will be 700 more dias/week
I'd enjoy it if unused runs turned to diamonds too
if you know you won't run it just enter and immediately exit
then you can sell it
but I agree would be nice if it was automatic at reset
It's such an unecessary hoop to jump through
make a #classic-suggestions , they do read those and implement some of the QoL stuff
Already did, though I fear they care little for Western feedback and focus more on their Asian playerbase
Might be just my experience with other games though
yeah that is true, it's only when the asian playerbase riots that big changes happen. but I've seen lots of QoL stuff in #classic-suggestions make it in game shortly after
well I didn't see your game suggestion on refunds for unused attempts, I did see ... this
I stand by that statement

fair enough
Though you also probably skipped past the post I made on the #1176744720559505539 Thread
What's the best way to unlock the collections you haven't got access to yet? Mine are Zolrath, Orthros and Athlia. Should you just wait for random chance to unlock them?
random chance would be nice, otherwise buy from challenger store
prioritize all the dims first tho
Alrighty
I was considering Alna before mulan/ldv since I have already pulled 9f for her but it seems they are valued more highly still?
Please stargaze Alna, yeah 
each Dim will cost you 1million coins, that alone will take you a while
yeah def dims first
Yeah it does seem like delayin gthe dims would take way too long, haha. Cheers dudes. I will stick with the dims.
This is going to be the final version of it unless theres more errors on it. I will be trying to compile one that is from recommendations from our own community (nihilium discord, crowdsource, my guild server, and AFK OS). prob will be asking different peeps for specific hero ones.
Where would oden fall between those mage ones?
ur asking about what collection for oden?
Yes
oculus
I figured i was just making sure my time hasnt been wasted farming those
The only two ive been working on are oden and jerome which ofc im doing the wrong jerome bc i literally cant do the other
Appreciate the note as it resonates with me too, as you know 

we doing that new one at some point then, right? I might add notes on stuff that jumps out 
the new one that we make together would surely would fit better~
yeah def making that new one. my lazy butt is pushing it off but ill at least finish up the heroes that r most meta tonight or something
my lazy butt is pushing it off
Guilty of that too, I didn't look/edit after you sent because I just went on with my day
we can making a landing page ig. with sources and our usernames
me too lol. just added hero icons to which i plan to work on


Totally fair, this mode is hell, we shouldn't stress over it too much
exactly!
doing runs is already a chore 
anyway, going to have my tea and then look at it from here 
won't forget, promise 
no rush. im chilling at work myself. gonna get to it when i am more free tonight
what does ERR & DR mean in the guide?
ERR shows as ERR in the run. stands for energy recovery rate. DR shows as DMG resist
ahh ic thx.-.
Thanks for the translation 
ERROR and DOCTOR
What's wishlist prio for totems?

how does lv3 collection items work?
better than lv2
whats top 3 bert stats in def and off
Is there a guide for which collections to give to who?
what about erosion for emi
erosion is 100% useless on most unit. A few units can use the stat but its a bit early to make the call on whether or not these units want erosion over other stats (and if yes, which stat/unit do)
I was under the impression that Liberta benefits greatly from erosion due to how his damage works
Thing about Erosion is that most heroes don't have health-loss as the main aspect of their kit
yeah their doc doesn't list it on other char who will benefit, like bert or saf. they don't think it's good on them, but it seems weird to me
pretty sure most of bert/saf/emi dmg is health loss, so erosion should be quite strong
I think a lot of heroes might prefer ATK but ERS should still be a good alternative
Smth like crit stats on Lib or AwSaf is really minor at least
the guide has a few weird things imo. Like tasi's wings on liberta is only useful for pvp. Its basically useless in pve and liberta is in most boss comp. Meanwhile vault is BIS in pve and still really useful in pvp.
Bottom line is, this is still very early considering the amount of new stat/effect and the nature of collection makes it very hard to test. so the guide will change over time
For Lib specifically, ERS is kind of weak for TS
Imo luminous flight is super good in TS, same as +1 zol collection
Cheat death are the best thing
That sounds weird to me with his main dmg being ERS and atk can be reduced by other things.
It's because Link deals more than enough dmg that it doesn't need ERS for TS
Although most offensive stats don't do much for his TS, ATK or ERR would benefit more
Do full x apply after they die?
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Guide for collections
Wish I knew exactly what prf applies to
There's so many different effects. Idk what is control and what isnt
Also wondering what to put on Asta
I read her kit and seems like she does nothing 🤣
furry hippo
yeah, how about no
Should i combine the blue totems to get purple ones?
No
Only if you spend on totem. Except the 3% one, it's not worth using imo.
Let's say you average 1 mythic stat per run(this includes bad and unimportant (defensive ones on most class) ones, which are more then half of them and we cant count mythic obtained from tier up or fusion). At 3% chance to double, it would happen roughly once every 67 run or 10 weeks
If you remove bad stats, let's say 3/4 are bad or not particularly impactful. It's once every 268 run or 38 weeks.
You also need to consider that you can swap this M stat into other ones but since you get most of them at floor 9 or 10, it wouldn't make that much of a difference.
Tldr: most purple totem would give you more benefits then 20 3% blue totem
Mae or nay?
good until u find something better

How/when do folks plan to use their totems? I was thinking just pulling every week until one (or no) L, to get use of the wishlist, but stop after. And for wl, miracle, lvl up, PP, MP - thoughts?
Crit only comes from totem effects afaik.
tyty and damn i should have swapped the M F.Atk with L Atks
IS M over F.Attack Elite ?
Which collection and potentially which hero? If they apply CC, then I would take IS.
Its for Solise .. but maybe for Ivan too
mega sad
@noble sable thats usable on abaden atleast
IS f.atk is good on Ivan & Lava, also usable for Joan
F.Atk in general is better for all the sust that don't have scaling buffs though
So 4x F.Atk is better for smth like Twins
which collection should abel use? was thinking the shemira one as +2 for more ults but idk
oculus
reparo
Which best totems I could use for Rem?
Anyone got that image that says whats the priority abilities to get on a collection for a specific character
Nvm found it
Should i use blue and purple totems each run or its better to combine them for yellow?
Hold off from combining for the time being, you can always just do it later
Where did you find it?
Reddit. Its this pic if you want it
Ah thank you. I thought it was here in one of the channels
Meh?
thats better than most lol
Armor kinda useless unless you're planning on running it on like Eluard
Was making this for Merlin. Too bad everything is orange. 🫠
bruh that's better than nothing
which one is better for scarlet
Is that even a question 
the second
thanks
😣
yes, offense stats are way more important
defense increase isnt really good in most cases. damage resist is good though if you can get it
Yeah! Pretty decent! That skill +2 cda atk all look great!
Hi is the +2 on Cover's wording "optimal" for energy and health separate? Meaning the highest energy and health within the last 5 seconds get chosen instead of the most optimal as combined health and energy? Apologies if my phrasing makes it more confusing
Hey all, whats the priorities for collections in terms of which ones to create?
2 red stats is above average and then all orange is the best you can get after that lol
MP will increase damage from aSolise?
I hate collection when i full legen i just get a hero even though I want a Tier increase
😰
@spice cloak sorry for the ping misty, BUT ITS MY 1ST SKILL LV+1 AND IDW TO F THE ETCHING UP

Only the usual 3+3+1 slots 
Could use this on the new mooler yoyo mama



for def id just take the three purple/orange ones
For offense, depends on if you want to make it for a health loss hero or not
Get all the legs and pref/hp from epics
Which one do u guys think is better for Abel
Guide says mp is more important but I'd test both against bosses to be sure, (they'll reimburse the 100 diamonds next update)
cda prob better ngl
the guide we currently have floating rn is a translation and some of the stuff seems meh
erosion does help a bit, but then so does err. does err effect energy gain from other sources (ivan, palmer, etc?)
Does erosion work on Amshemira?
i got 2 mythic erosion on a tank collection. Any tanks that can use erosion?
naro does
ofc. if u got questions abt collections feel free to always come here and ask. someone will answer (i try as well)
this is for naro right?
I already have a collection for him. Im thinking other tanks on the guide
overall tanks dont like mp/pp. exception is awshem that likes mp
right. Not sure which to pick then
ers is r borth good. ers is naro specific. ers as a stat is very hero specific (most heroes dont have healthloss)
yea, i might use this for naroko instead, i dont want to waste the stats.
shed be awesome with thos ers for sure
if i have 2 oculus' (one has 4x mp, the other has 2x cda 2x full atk) am i correct in thinking abel should get the one with cda? unfortunately neither has red stats, but they're at least mostly yellow
Yes
Its pretty decent for abel but cda has cap so
Is anybody else having a problem with the game
Everyone
Okay good I was just wanting to make sure
anyone else getting a negative number of attempts?
yeah they took away 3 attempts from everyone... even if you had less than 3 attempts lol. I'm sure it wil be put back
i got 9 for free
-3 attempts remaining. Guess I need to return some collections now 

Were you at 12 
i just wanted to play another game mode while mystic starzone was down 

-3 gang
kekw, is this good enough for yoyo mama
i swear I'm too obsessed w getting LL on everyone
When did the famous cellist yo yo ma get added to the game
she's fat
hopefully she's not 🚮 on actual testing
waiting for misty to be free to come back to reply to me later before confirming the collection etching 
hopefully she IS
i hope the next 10 heroes are walker tier so we can actually pretend this game is f2p friendly again
they’ll all be meta doe
nah, gotta make sure all the new heroes have thesis text descript, so we can keep guessing if they meta or not
This 'chance to outright fail and not even reach level 10 with collection' is dogshit
Why does this rubbish mechanic even exist
How do I recycle rubbish collection
just keep it for now.
You might need it for TS teams.
But its Bag > Collection, there will be recycle or smth button there
I sold it anyway because it's dumb and stupid
They have audacity to leave it unchanged for more than two weeks
sir, the heck are you gonna do with all that CDA

literally no one in the game has remotely enough CDR for it to be useful 
There are some heroes with base 0 CDA (or just 5 from Helm ig)
Is there enough crit though
All int heroes have high crit
Brrrlinda gona go brrr
Basically double damage on crits 😂
Where can you see what the third ability of the artifict are?
It only shows two in the preview
put miracle worker in chosen Bizzare Token, it will shows the lv +2 skill if you check the collection
What should I focus on for awaken Solise
.
Thanks man appreciate it 
Why would cda not be useful
Max dmg is 60 cda more than enemies cdr
that's already 60 cda on the artifact, plus what the hero has
not many enemies will have that much cdr. still good tho
With collections being meta on all heroes now that changes heavily no?
But yeah the last orange cda is prob overkill
prob fine in pvp, not cr
tho some enemy in cr like skreg in 2? rotations has a lot of cdr too
Palmer's buff also gives like 50+ CDA
True
Takes time tho
So matters more for cr
I think most AwBel rounds overheat before they timeout anyway, so it doesn't really make a diff
much rather have mp or attk on at least one or two of those cda nodes, but it is what it is. not like you get to choose
Gonna flex my mid berta collection
They are preparing for the legendary battles against the guy with all M+ CDR, JD 
abel also buffs own CDA pretty significantly
but an average palmer is expected to provide an average abelinda with ~100 CDA before her own buffs kick in
with that CDA that's gonna be like ~130
I don't think anything in the game has 70 CDR
maybe excluding AE bosses, but then you have artifacts for those anyways
Oh I forgot she also had the CDA buff from 9F
How's this for Rem?
Please note of the following changes not edited in the guide:
- Palmer: should be MP instead of PP
Wow, the devs are true morons, didn't get offered any hero upgrades, just new heroes so I died at f6 with all lvl 100s
This game mode is making me want to quit... How bad is it if I just ignore completely?
I've been running +skill but haven't seen one once in 7 runs
Ur better off running blue totems u til sweep is available
Yeah, I realize that now... I thought it was just bad luck since people keep posting such good ones while I don't even get a single red most runs
But this is beyond that, along with failing a run due to RNG...
I have several failed runs. At least ik im using blue ones so it doesn’t hurt as much
if you don't care about cr/nc/ts, it doesn't matter much at all
if you care about those modes, it's pretty big
Yaay our neuro guide (from Felix and Lap) makes it here as well.
i post everything i find~
Interesting

Getting this right at the start is so stupid . ..
life
I wonder why they picked the non-stopwatch tank item for Shemira
feels like both works depending on skill lvl and stuff
better to craft both for ashem for cr at least
This even useful for anyone?

any support, the artifact effect is good
sadly the stats aren't but it's ok
^^^
this will help so many people but at the same time makes competition so much harder. Also poor neuro getting their resources leaked again
they shared it themselves saying to share elsewhere so
yeah. posting themselves would be the best but they dont care much. they just wanna spread good info
Well that's refreshing
I know they had their TS guides leaked before and they stopped making them because of that
Is the guide with the stat for collec pinned somewhere? 
For a very good reason😋
We did posted on reddit and on some others.
So that isn't a leak since we're a super strict server
and that guide is on purpose out
Stat steal for Lv3, means she will tank more and harder, + she will ult also more than usual
Early christmas 🔥
No we didn't stopped making it.
We still make it, but we keep it ourself.
Unless we decide to leak it 😋
@olive sky , thanks for the guide. question about the +1 lvl. it's not clear which artifacts should be prioritized for +2 or can work well at +1.
You should thanks Felix and Lap.
If you look closely, you see on some Hero having the priority about their Head, it says which level it's recomanded, if you get +1 then enough, but if you get +2 even way better. And side note, you can't really target +2s, and by the time you get a drop you should already have an outline which hero it'd fit the best, that's why don't focus to much on it.
+2 is more suited for PvP only.
Its very generous for the community to share that guide! It should really help with the confusion
Consider it as Early Christmas❤️
tbh, I got a farly good grasp of collections, so that guides hurt my ranking as it makes others stronger lmao but I’m sure it will help with player retention
Still depending mostly on luck
100% and I think its about making a coherent artifact
Not just going for stats that don’t work together or aren’t useful lol
Soon we’ll have so many we won’t know what to do with them haha
It will just be a pain to swap them for ts then cr/nc attempts
Just throw on the rest of your heroes.
It's like a gacha game, use or not use it 😋
At least we can sell them for 100 dia
Lvl 3 collection needs 2 lvl+ etchings right
nah, more like tons of luck
You need miracle worker for the extra slot and 2x skill up rune
🗿
Alright, then would sub-par etchings be fine if a collection has a lvl+ regardless?
Most ppl run miracle worker with farewell gift to maximize odds
Or if it's terrible rolls everywhere then I just kinda leave it
Depends on hero and artifact. Some heros want stats, others the ability is better.
I've got none of those good ones bc no $$ and bad rng from drawing xdd
guhh i hate this system
i had a giga roll on one other thing initially but then team rng omega screwed me
so i had like.. 5* rowan going into floor 9 and just died there
very cool 👍
depends on hero but generally avoid pp/mp
i'm on floor 2, guess who they really wanted me to use 
She was a fiary
are there any supports that really like having +hp? i rolled 2x red and 1x yellow +hp lol
asol does
even over +heal?
ok yeah that's what i thought
Tank sub stats?
sub?
Dont add IS and full erosion right?
two types of stats: offensive or defensive
Uh albedo
for neuromancer's guide
hmp
So what 3 stats should i put
Rem

Just dont pick CBR on Albedo.
E60 needs her to be crit'd to proc
u dont have much options but f.ers there.....

prob f.ers then yeah
Almost put this

IS stat for albedo is rly meh
prob f.ers. theres consistent cr rounds where u use emi and bedo together
emi prob can benefit from bedo's f.ers
u prob wanna eventually craft a new one for em
Or should i just screw this one and try to roll for DPS Albedo, she somehow deal more damage than my rem sometimes
just do f.ers for now and use it. prob later on u can craft a new one
at least u got skill+1
Totems for proper build?
How the fuck
RNG
Do you keep seal on wl after hitting 18? -sorry fro wrong chat didnt notice
No
no, u get reso 18 before duping
pets after 18 are the equivalent of furn after 9
except reso 18 is OP
Okay I see time to get my reso up then cuz that’s embarrassing atm
There's a lot of furn dupes you'd rather get than 9Fs though
there's no lvl 18's you'd get before activating resonance 
Yeah 
im on 3k baits waiting for a nerw pet :_:
Next beast seems kinda far away
Probably won't be patch after Vika when it's double AW
I think theyre pushing it off for Christmas special patch but we’ll c
ah get the christmas money off people
When is reset? I still have 9 more times 😦
12hrs from now
Is there a fast forward for this 😦
none yet
I’m guessing new year
The collections taking 3-6min ish per run.
I absolute love it
Ugh ... You must be a masochist. Lol
I take collection as a free 100 dias income 
Surely you aren't at the point where every hero has a good collection 
Oh ig we could have a beast & no hero the patch after Vika
i mean those ass i got with only epics
i think of it as a motivation to clear it max weekly

should i go F.ATK - ATK on daimon or there is something else better?
lol
Damage resistance I think or damage reduction
Is there a new guide for collections?
Tysm 
and here's an update
that was 1 day ago
I really appreciate :3

Didn't got any better, it should work on Palmer or Ivan? I've already checked the guides but want to know if I should try more
Pp doesnt work on palmer or ivan. The rest of the stuff works on either
Why put pp and mp on the same one 
Didn't had others :/
You mean why I've put pp?
Well there's no hero that uses both so one slot is totally useless no matter who it's on
Oh, so instead of that I should've chosen other
Yeah. Mp is for int heros, and pp for agi/str
Oh, tysm

can somebody please tell me what's useful on Daimon?
How does +1 and +2 work? Isn't there only 1 extra level per collection?
ppl found out lvl 2 skill abilities soon after the system was introduced
Sorry but does full HEAL increase hp or healing?
healing
It says it increases health but from the name I’d assume it’s healing
but no one use it anyways
full heal = max hp to the team
no
you mean F.HP?
i've seen your name somewhere?
was it on a guide?
maybe reddit
yeah thats prob me
in english, the stat says full heal but it actually grants %hp to your team.
^^^^
idk about other languages
on this one its actually
oh yeah, i just meant in-game the stat is worded wrong
yeap. game has many bad word choice, buffer...like what do u mean by buffer lol
is there a screenshot of what stats different characters want somewhere?
check necromancer's guide posted in this channel. scroll up
gotcha tyry


I got 2 L buffer 
which collection is best for ivan
pretty good. ashem like hp more. u got 1 hp at least. and mp is very good on her as well
run blue totems for now until we have sweep on the system (unless u can afford using the better ones)
scroll and check necromaner's guide posted ealier in this channel
wow nice~
for who?
id do it 

i gamble my chances~
All I need to hear
Btw got skill lvl up
Thank you
any tips for team building in collection runs?
always pick hero upgrade no matter how good the other heroes look. if u have to pick a hero, pick one from the faction that u have the most
gotcha ty
u lurk and dissapear 
i can do a lot better for ivan right
oh gotcha

would this one be better for ivan
u gotta be very lucky and unlucky and the same time lol
this gotta be a joke, how is it possible?
its cause u need that one totem that opens a 8th slot for u
then ud have a lvl 3 collection
what totem? ffs
or skill+2
miracle worker i think
im done with this game.'
So which of those dogshits are better for rem?
theyre so much better than mine lol
left one cause u got skill+1
both r real good thou
yea imagine if i didnt usee the farewell gift just to have an extra +1 skill that i cant use
so is first really better just because of the +1? is it worth trading it for 16% increased attack and an extra 2.68pp?
hmm ok thanks

i was wondering why everybody hates the new collections now i get it. you try 30 runs and when you finally get two +1 skills you cant place both.
Anyone know which collection is a good one to start with?
Bit hard for this dumdum to decide.
get collection for your best carry/dmg dealer in TS and CR
I don't really ... have one?
I just use whoever the leaderboard says to use.
Should I just post box?
Look at the carries you are using from the leaderboard and get them. Then the supports
Time to alna carry
I just did a run, got to Floor 10, and just tossed the highest tier buffs I found onto here.
That right or there smth I should prioritize?
I'm thinking of putting this on ABelinda.
Clockwise it's Full Def, Full Buffer, Tenacity, Attack, Life Leech, Magic Pierce, and Full Erosion.
I'm asking cause it says I won't be able to change it once I etch them.
throw away full erosion
My other blue options are Life Leech, Full Attack, and Energy Recover Rate.
If that helps.
:worrysalute:
Also it seems as a reward for getting to floor 10 I got all the other collections.
Huh.
I wonder who I should slap them onto.
Wtf, it looks bad
breh

I got the choice to swap the tiers of two things.
Which to swap?
This is a Trader's Vault which I'm planning to give to Liberta.
I guess I'm just trying to figure out what's the best skill to swap with buffer or full defense.
swap into +100 diamonds
I think this turned out alright.
The best I've had since release tbh
That's beautiful
When are you supposed to use collections, are they only for TS and CR or do you just slap them onto the hero you want and roll with that?
Or do you need to build the perfect collection for that to pay off?
well collections are horribly implemented but obviously use them wherever artifacts aren't allowed, since you have nothing to lose
i wouldn't worry too much about the stuff until they remove the timer crap, even then a decent to good collection will prolly always be better cept for specific stages where book/call/etc plays a big role since energy > stats
Yeah collection is crazy...even can use in rift whereas artifact can't use there🤯🤯
yeah makes perfect sense and doesn’t conflict with each other at all!
if they actually released them without the cooldown you might assume it’s just a weird system without a lot of foresight lol. but with the cooldown, and the obvious conflicts, it’s clear they put 0 thought into this
for f.atk sure.
its a random refresh unfortunately


refresh the Leg. Atk one?
refresh purple buffer
prob
atk is overall a good stat. if u dont get any good offensive stat can always just use em
Refresh M into Skill +1 


then its not bad~
should i use that full heal?
I got an M MP from stats at end when it was for a cele collec 
id be so done lol
and what else?
F.Heal is actually HP
^^^
An actual f.heal doesn't exist and f.HP is called f.heal
^^^^
what else
purple dr
?





