collections

[stable socket]

🤘🏽

[jade gull]

sweet!

[proper sandal]

Do I go level here or orange mp?

[jade gull]

lvl ofc, lvl always bis

[feral trench]

okay so it's not 7 a week dropped all at once... it's one a day every day? is that right?

[torn sierra]

Did you get this with blue totems?

[inner rivet]

what are the use cases of the more obscure stats (stuff like dissolve, erosion, prf)? have no clue how i should be prioritizing stats

[jade gull]

its 7 a week but since new system is just introduced theyre sending out 1 attempts a day in mail for 7 days

[candid burrow]

we get an extra 1 per day from the mail

[sweet folio]

Support said at weekly reset it'll be set to 7, so any attempts you didn't do are lost

[feral trench]

okay glad i get some retries because my first 7 were full fumbled

thanks

[proper sandal]

Haha def not, I used 2 legendary and one purple

[final tartan]

Damn ashem with the timeline watch looks op

[soft hollow]

Two purp runs, 2 useless artis

Think I had one upgrade this run, the rest were either swap or refresh

[strong ginkgo]

i didnt get any

[rare turtle]

sigh

[jade gull]

[rare turtle]

Rng why

[stark slate]

What are the best stats for Rem? I wanted to work on the Shadow Dancer artifact.

[slender wadi]

Offensive stats

[jaunty cove]

PP CDA most likely

[indigo sequoia]

Who do you plan to use this collection on? Not sure which heroes would prefer this to Armor…

[thorn needle]

Best stats for Bert?

[rare turtle]

No one, this collec is crap

Supposed to be atk but got Def instead

[jaunty cove]

Probably MP and Attack

[rare turtle]

Also, it can only go on ranger. But no ranger use def for whatever reason

[indigo sequoia]

I meant Sandstorm Fang over Armor as a class in general.

[rare turtle]

Erosion

[stark slate]

Ty

[sweet folio]

Did anyone get M+ yet or is that just a mistranslation

[strong ginkgo]

its a myth

[stable socket]

I haven’t seen any personally

[vale yarrow]

I saw it

wait

It has a lil shiny

on the icon

[jade gull]

is it the top left one?

[vale yarrow]

yes

[jade gull]

what ability is that lemme double check if its m+

[vale yarrow]

it means " Full Ero"

[jade gull]

lemme just check the value real quick ty

[vale yarrow]

[jade gull]

wow ur right?! its an m+ stat

m+ for f.ers is 3.85

[vale yarrow]

[jade gull]

[sour rose]

Is this good ?

What’s full buffer means ?

[indigo sequoia]

Atk, CDA, Crit rate = good imo.

[sour rose]

Which mage can use this 🤣

Such a tanky build

[jade gull]

sort ur heroes by class and send ur mage roster. maybe i can recommend one or something. not an expert but

[sour rose]

Abel using this one atm

[grizzled grotto]

A cc sorc like Mehi ig

LDV too

[jade gull]

yeah i was gonna ask abt ldv lol

u think yen would do as well?

[grizzled grotto]

Didn't think about LDV first because it messes with him not having Call for KT/camp

Yen works too

[jade gull]

[grizzled grotto]

Khaz too

[sour rose]

What about this ? Could this be useful for anyone ?

[grizzled grotto]

LL sucks but just chuck it on a support sorc like Dae

[jade gull]

this isnt too bad actually. dae would like it id think

f.atk/f.heal is pretty nice for dae

[sour rose]

Would this be better than Windbinder ?

[grizzled grotto]

No, but you can't use arti in modes

[jade gull]

^^^collection works in ts/cr/nc/ae/rift

[sour rose]

Sooooo

I have to switch back and forth

[grizzled grotto]

So it's better in CR/NC/TS

[jade gull]

yes basically

[grizzled grotto]

The cmbr would be more important than book anyway

[sour rose]

Why don’t they just add new section

[jade gull]

[grizzled grotto]

Book won't even let you start a pcapped stage so it doesn't matter

[sour rose]

Here’s my lineup

Should I just focus on mage

[jade gull]

change focus?

[sour rose]

It’s so hard to get good stats

Splitting the focus is not friendly for F2P

[jade gull]

dont bother too much abt it. we get more attempts with the weeks. just try to craft up good stat ones and decide later who to put it on

or u could craft em with the thought u want it on a specific hero so u chose stats that way as well. both works

[sour rose]

Not so Afk arena anymore

Too much researching

[jade gull]

ik...the amount of brain power needed for this new system for a noob like me def doesnt feel like afk anymore

[grizzled grotto]

Shouldn't be focusing on 1 type too much this early

Gotta try and equip something on everything first

[stark slate]

Score

[jade gull]

ouch

[grizzled grotto]

Look at all those yellow (stats)

[stark slate]

Better than my last one. Is this good? I guess it’s not good but I’ll make lemonade.

Do I take the emote reaction as a yes?

[grizzled grotto]

Not like you have much other choice

[jade gull]

yeah u dont have much choice. just try to save gold totems from now on

[stark slate]

Ok thx

[trim eagle]

So which heroes are much better off with relics than artifacts? Assuming both can be used

[jade gull]

meta/carries. start off with gicing ur celepogeans and aws arti pretty much

[brisk umbra]

[runic cove]

what do i do w this event ?

[brisk umbra]

Or should I go like this for A.Baden

[jade gull]

this one is prob better for some other hero. but its a good one

u have both i assume?

[grizzled grotto]

I totally forgot AwBaden had health-loss (from his S3)

[trim eagle]

Okie

Guess I'll go for Ivan's. What stats does he want?

[jade gull]

um. what collection r u planning to craft for ivan. cause both works

[waxen badger]

this would be pretty good on wyca i’d imagine

[trim eagle]

Cero says flight so

I assume he wants Attack

[brisk umbra]

Only 1 still not sure what should I make first one or second one 😄

[trim eagle]

Also, Miracle Worker vs Farewall gift? miracle seems good but isn't a 100% chance unlike Farewell gift

[jade gull]

save those totems

[jade gull]

ur second one seems much better. but prob not bis for abaden. some other heroes can use it im sure. abaden could still work well

[grizzled grotto]

There's no reason to put MP on it

[brisk umbra]

I was trying to get Lv2+ sadly luck not with me

[grizzled grotto]

The F.Ero does help AwBaden the most for the relevant celes

[jade gull]

^^^

[trim eagle]

Alright, but why?

[brisk umbra]

Thanks for info !

[grizzled grotto]

Although 4x PP is prob better

[jade gull]

they're very rare and gen 1 stuff is typically meh. besides give a little more time for smart ppl to figure out the system and publish better guides. u can use it then for better results/return

[brisk umbra]

Noted 🙂

[grizzled grotto]

4x PP would also make it a lot more generically usable, which means you wouldn't be forced to use it on AwBaden

[vale yarrow]

3x, since Lv^ in there

[grizzled grotto]

There's 8 slots, so it's 4x

[vale yarrow]

oh

[grizzled grotto]

I typed 3x at first before noticing that myself

[vale yarrow]

such unlucky using twos Lv^ and gets 0 lv^

[trim eagle]

Makes sense

[grizzled grotto]

Tfw 3x low chance still = low chance

[vale yarrow]

[trim eagle]

So what stats for Ivan? Attack and what else

[grizzled grotto]

ATK, F.ATK or PRF should be his best offensive nodes. IS too but his base IS is already high enough

And ig F.HP or F.DEF for defensive. Maybe Armor if you had a high roll (even though it's a pretty low number stat)

[trim eagle]

Thank you

First time I see prf be useful

[grizzled grotto]

PRF is good on any high IS CC unit
Mainly for ones that don't contribute much dmg (e.g. Ivan, LDV, Mehi)

[trim eagle]

Awesome thanks!

[shrewd notch]

how PRF is good on CC unit?
isn't Debuff != CC ?

[grizzled grotto]

They aren't the same, but PRF affects both

PRF/DISS affect debuff+CC
IS/TY affect only CC

[trim eagle]

Hmm

Idk if worth losing Call

Testing this is going to be a headache with the 24hr cooldown

[jade gull]

not in pve modes. but worth it for the modes that u cant use og arti in

[trim eagle]

Yeah that's what I thought

[jade gull]

[grizzled grotto]

The main places not having arti matters is for TR, camp multis & fac tower
Because KT & camp singles have pcap as the bigger threat

[shrewd notch]

how did you know? did lilith confirmed this, or someone actually deep dive to the code? or doing testing?
cause ingame PRF doesn't said anything about CC

[grizzled grotto]

Well you use Khazard for the extra CC duration

And he lowers enemy DISS

You pretty much only use PRF to extend CCs, it's much more of an afterthought for debuffs

[shrewd notch]

ah that make sense, so seems like lilith write CC as one kind of Debuff on their code

is that means PRF has better value than IS ?

ah nope IS is for CC success rate

different purpose

[grizzled grotto]

well CCs are a type of debuff

[void root]

Which stats should i go for AwBelinda

[dusk fossil]

do similar stats stack or not?

like if i choose a red hp then orange hp. will those two stats stack or only the highest one counts?

[stable socket]

They stack in the end

[dusk fossil]

so itw fine if ever I only put all hp on one side?

[grizzled robin]

Is there any way to get rid of bad collections? I can't find it

[jade gull]

dont get rid of em just yet. recycle em when u got loads of em

[terse flint]

Can someone briefly tell me what should I do in the Ghoulish Gallery?

Does it matter which of these I choose?

And is there a tier list for these?

[pearl juniper]

yes, scroll up for Cero's guide

[pearl juniper]

there's no good tier lists in this game in general lol, just use 3 blues for a start to not waste the rares

[terse flint]

Ok

[void root]

You can recycle them but you only get 100 Diamonds so dont do it

[terse flint]

That's the guide, right?

[pearl juniper]

ye

[void root]

A guide with perfect attributes would be nice

[terse flint]

So, I choose a collection and then one hero

And 3 totems

And I can upgrade the hero/collection

[void root]

So?

[terse flint]

Is this the whole idea of the mode?

[torpid trellis]

Pretty much

You choose collection, take buffs that apply in the collection, complete the 10 floors and you get the collection artifact. Not sure if you get them if you don’t hit 10 floors but

The buffs you collect on the way can be applied to the artifact

[terse flint]

I see

Thank you

[torpid trellis]

Yw. And do note each attempt will always grant a collection

(At first I thought we only had one try lol)

[void root]

As a tipp always try getting "Miracle Worker"

[torpid trellis]

Then I realized “OH I can try again”

Miracle worker?

[void root]

Totem

Best one

By far

[torpid trellis]

Got it. Rn I’ve used all my totems and gunna hoarde those summon things what does miracle worker do?

Is that the lvl up totem

[terse flint]

I haven't acquired it yet

[void root]

50% better base stat, 1 lvl up guaranteed, and 1 extra slot to put badge in

[terse flint]

Oh, they give me heroes?

I thought I should choose

[void root]

No you pretty stuck with those heros

[torpid trellis]

Omg that is godlike

I need it lol

[torpid trellis]

The heroes you get are usually random, I would try to score a decent line up (like, tanks and supports up front dps in back) early then just start ascending them

[void root]

Got that one and the 2nd lvl up thingy

God run maybe soon

[torpid trellis]

Do it do it

I hope you get a busted arti

[void root]

Alr have one with only blue totems

.

[torpid trellis]

Ah, same here

Ohoho naisu who are you going to slap it on?

[void root]

Palmer or liberta prob Palmer

[trim eagle]

Lyca stats for relic? Mainly just want the cbr for pcap but might as well get stats she wants

[jade gull]

atk,pp,crit shouldnt be bad id think?

ur prob better of just looking at her skill description before crafting collection for her

[trim eagle]

If holder dies, does the assorted full atk/def/etc. go away as well?

Cause I might just put a bunch of full atk or something on her. Only need the haste, right

[jaunty cove]

Is MP better than Crit or CDA on Abel? Doesn't it only increase her flame dmg?

[jade gull]

aye! leak on updates to collection.
Good news guys! Theyre adding pity to the new system with ability drops, removing cooldown time from swapping collection, removing diamonds required for that, adding arti recommendation, adding sweep feature for all 10 floors etc.
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/smKNuC67o2T6gOQoOnCZ4Q
need translation

[trim eagle]

Oooh sounds cool

[jade gull]

[waxen badger]

does it say when these changes will be put into place?

and was there anything about removing hero requirement for each collection?

[jade gull]

yes. patches 130-132

[waxen badger]

next patch then?

[jade gull]

nothing along the lines for this

[waxen badger]

hmm. looks like i’m gonna have to gaze normal athalia then

[jade gull]

cooldown removal and diamonds will be returned next patch

gonna slowly rollout the changes

[waxen badger]

alright well that’s the big one everyone is complaining about

that’s great they’re listening to our feedback

[jade gull]

[fierce hollow]

[zenith vault]

What stats do you all think would be nice for Daemia?

[zenith vault]

Perfect that's the one I was looking for

[jade gull]

This is the old one. I made a translation error on it. I posted a new one in the CR channel

[fierce hollow]

Nice

[pearl juniper]

fake chinese speaker

[jade gull]

im not used to not revising my stuff and translating gaming language messed up on CDR vs DR

[grizzled grotto]

CDR is pretty decent but DR should generically be the best defensive stat

[jade gull]

Yeah DR not CDR…damage resistance vs crit dmg resistance….let alone im not used to playing game and reading what stats do

[grizzled robin]

Are CDA and dissolve good for Liberta or should I swap? I have no clue

[stable palm]

Got a lvl+1 but the other abilities are shit.

[grizzled grotto]

Swap diss to ers

[grizzled robin]

[iron hare]

Seriously EVERY floor clear needs an upgrade

[manic lantern]

what does +skill level do?

never mind im retarted 🙂

[fathom kayak]

isnt CDA better than MP on ABel?

[fierce hollow]

Its not my guide

[fathom kayak]

im asking u

mr CS

[fierce hollow]

Ask akuma

[tepid helm]

you should test it for us bok

[fathom kayak]

rejected

[tepid helm]

I expect the full report on my table tomorrow

[fathom kayak]

i quit

[fierce hollow]

Problem solved

[candid burrow]

@fathom kayak wrong

[fathom kayak]

im breaking all the server rules in 1 message

[tepid helm]

impressive

[candid burrow]

but i think the answer is it depends on how much mp and cda you have already

and i refuse to do math so thats where the answer ends

[hollow adder]

I try the warrior collection on my ABrutus when i read it : "Create a clone after use ultimate", i switch game to very slow i see NOTHING, i dont understand how this new collection work, one can explain to me plz? 😦

[grizzled grotto]

It's just a buff with the visual effect of a clone (because it's based off Saurus)

[hollow adder]

ok ok i'll see if i see the same effect like saurus, ty for ur answer ! 🙂

[grizzled grotto]

It doesn't have the same effect as Saurus, it's just inspired by him

[jolly elm]

Will this do for oden? Or if not for someone else?

Wrong ss thats for jerome

Will this work for oden?

[tepid helm]

its a mage collection so yes, it works on oden

[jolly elm]

I meant are the stats good enough to manage

Or at least, would it be better than 4* windbinder on him

[tepid helm]

well windbinder doesnt work in the important game modes so

[torpid trellis]

Eh? They don’t work in all modes?

[tepid helm]

nope, thats the best thing about collections, they do

[torpid trellis]

Wow, never knew that. Usually the game will tell you where an item is applicable haha

Unless I missed it

Welp, still feels good to know that. I was debating that collection vs winder binder for almost all my mages

[torpid trellis]

Btw to me this seems ok for oden. He naturally gets attack from his passive abilities so having x3 MP should help his dmg

[shut wyvern]

What stats should I focus on for A Lyca's collection

[tepid helm]

damage

[shut wyvern]

MP or PP

[tepid helm]

what does engraving give her

[rare turtle]

PP

[tepid helm]

(it was a rhetorical question)

an easier way is just looking at their main stat, strength and agi are all physical and int are all magic as far as I know

[hoary hare]

Oculus for belinda need 2 star?

[grim lagoon]

What do i need to sensor from this one to be able to put in game chat

It just says "Image contains prohibited content" each time I try to send it :( I tried making a scraggly red line over it

Oh well, they can find it themselves

[grizzled grotto]

Ocu +1 is w/e but +2 is big

[hoary hare]

What is dr guys

[rare turtle]

Damage resistance

[jolly elm]

Some stats are very unclear at first the more in tune with gaming you are. For instance, i thought cbr was combat rating, cdr was cooldown reduction, etc

[grizzled grotto]

They're all on the stat page with abbreviations and descriptions

[tepid helm]

I mean when you click on a stat while you're in a gallery run it tells you what it does

[sweet folio]

It annoys me that heal is increased healing but full heal is increased hp

[tepid helm]

yeah, and tbf I do find it a bit annoying that cdr is not cooldown reduction but its not a big deal

[sweet folio]

Critical dock rate

[tepid helm]

I don't like the sound of that

[grizzled grotto]

I'd rather they actually show cooldowns on tooltips first

[tepid helm]

that would be great, game needs waaaay more detail

[grizzled grotto]

I wish they had hyperlinked keywords in tooltips that you could tap for info (e.g. Simona's Resonator)

[lean lance]

that involves too much work that they wouldn't see much profit from

we need problem solving card text like in yugioh

[twilit turtle]

at least the second try was successful

[feral trench]

Grats on the one red. You'll need to get with 2 +skills and the right stats though ultimately though, and you'll have to do that for each individual hero

Good luck 😊

[rare turtle]

[feral trench]

Can you even use 2 skill up totems at the same time? And if you can, you can't equip the second one without rnging the spot to hold it in your run, right?

It's like throwing 6 dice and hoping they all land on 6

[manic lantern]

Do we have an idea on which collection is best for emilia?

[feral trench]

Well you can't really read the second skill up anywhere without earning it so it's hard to say for sure this early

They let you read the first one though? Weird decision to hide the second

[sweet folio]

it's a totem that grants you an extra skill slot to put it in, so no rng on the spot (but then you have to get 2 +1 skill)

also you can read all the abilities here https://discord.com/channels/441477431501783060/1175839613701603329

[feral trench]

Ohh okay so the totem just gives you the slot, you still have to rng your way into 2 skill ups before looking at substats, when 1 is already super low odds. Oof. I'm not sure which is better.

Id seen it and thought it was redeeming like at least you can use a totem and a wishlist to get your +2 skills 😬

[sweet folio]

there's another totem to give you +1 skill at the end, and both increase the odds of getting +1, so it's not awful but still very rare and requires legendary totems

[grizzled grotto]

Gotta see how they rework it in patch v132

[grim pollen]

Hmmm a squeex viewer in the wild🤣

[slender wadi]

What is squeex

[grim pollen]

Nvm🤐

[untold sandal]

How to get +2, I can't see it anywhere

[twilit turtle]

both runs I’ve done for traders vault have been shit. suspicious

[jade gull]

Theyre changing stuff. Adding pity and what not. Gonna take a few patches

[jade gull]

You need to use miracle worker and the lvl up golden totem and get lucky. Not something advised for most players to use or try rn as there r changes coming soon

[twilit turtle]

it’s just odd out of the multiple runs I’ve done, the only ones I haven’t been able to finish were the ones I picked traders vault

[inner rivet]

which defensive stats do y'all opt for, given the choice?

i went full +hp on vei since that one's a nobrainer, but i dunno about literally everything else

[iron hare]

I still hate this shit, it should have been improved within 24 hours of release instead of being allowed to test for a week, you have test servers for that

[jade gull]

weird for sure, did u use different totems for em?

[twilit turtle]

nope. only using the three blue ones for now

[jade gull]

Kinda hard to decide since its ahero by hero basis

[iron hare]

Also, if they're going to keep the dogshit luck mechanic then VIP level should affect it

[twilit turtle]

hp/ty are the two I target

[jade gull]

Ive been informed “test servers dont do shit”

[jade gull]

Something is def off.

[jade gull]

Theyre fixing that part. Pity system will be implemented

[iron hare]

Pity system is pointless if they don't remove the absolutely useless things like commons and rares

Stop trying to screw players over

Really, any big QoL even if it means just dumbing down the entire thing by allowing people to 'Do only once' and rest of the times just 'sweep and collect'

Would make it way better and less hatred towards Lilith

You wanted players to grind slowly? Then it should have been in place 5 years ago

[jade gull]

We’re getting sweep

[iron hare]

🤷

[jade gull]

They also wanna prolong the live of this game

[iron hare]

Damage is already done, if they really wanted damage control it should have been in place in the first 24 hours

[jade gull]

Ngl this system still is whack but at least theyre changing it…should’ve been sooner ugh

[iron hare]

Not 'wait a week and see'

[jade gull]

Yeah so many left already

[iron hare]

Having this thing to screw over spenders is literal 杀鸡取卵

[stable socket]

Weird. I’ve lost 3 fights in all my runs total and haven’t failed to finish yet. On one of those I lost on the last fight.

It gets dicey if you don’t get a good carry.

[iron hare]

Stupid how at least lab, you can still retry with whichever heroes are still alive

[jade gull]

Not surprisingly yeah

[iron hare]

This? You fail and you lose progression

[twilit turtle]

sweep doesn’t fix what I find bad. the battles are actually kind of fun. getting crap stats is the issue for me

[iron hare]

Sweep is fine if it means just outright not needing to do actual dumb battles

[jade gull]

Im hoping the pity system will fix this. They said ull get better stats overall from using better totems and a pity counter will be active

[iron hare]

No that's stupid still, can't trust a pity system from them after what they already done, just be like bounty board and remove the lesser rarity outright

[candid burrow]

its been less than a week

[iron hare]

Also whose peabrained idea was it to come up with useless nodes like trap

[jade gull]

Ah. Idk if theyd take it that far. I mean look at sg/tg/tavern summons. We still get normal stuff

[iron hare]

Gacha RNG to do more gacha RNG

[twilit turtle]

I made it to floor 8 with one ascended hero. kept giving me new heroes instead of upgrade options

[iron hare]

You think you FGO

[jade gull]

Ive noticed ppl expect system to be fully tested before rolling out? Is that normal for most games?

[twilit turtle]

3 day lead time is pretty short…

[iron hare]

They had TWO WEEKS just fix it on 'preview server' before shoving down everyone's throats

Or whatever amount of weeks before 'test' goes to live

[jade gull]

3 days lead time? I dont play games at all so no clue whats good comparatively to the rest of industry

[stable socket]

Pls no

[jade gull]

Dont expect anything from test ive heard

[twilit turtle]

doesn’t test only get the patch three days before us?

[stable socket]

Yes just three days

[candid burrow]

its a few days

[iron hare]

Well start to change that then

[twilit turtle]

test server is only available for android users

[jade gull]

Theres not enough players in there lol

[twilit turtle]

not two weeks… three days

[iron hare]

Welp, bunch of rice buckets

[jade gull]

Yeah thats def too short. Should roll out at least two weeks before us for something as big as this

[stable socket]

And the people on test server are nowhere near as vocal or thorough in testing and feedback as global and CN are

It wouldn’t matter if they did it two months earlier

[jade gull]

Very true

[stable socket]

The player population is minuscule

[candid burrow]

sure some of the stuff needs changed, but if youre going to fault people after theyre willing to change for not being fast enough, sounds like you're just interested in being upset than solutions

[iron hare]

When a mode like this is potentially tied to one round of CR/TS/NC performance, I don't see a reason to tolerate them

[candid burrow]

theres only a few active guilds on test server compared to thousands on the other servers

[jade gull]

Im down cause so many ppl already left…its by choice but it wouldnt have happened if they had this thing done properly before

[iron hare]

I mean really, why do you have this when the upgrade one already does refresh? Just offer both instead of 'I see you have bad luck, here have the lesser one'

[stable socket]

They didn’t release it “wrong” though. They had an idea, put it in front of us, asked for feedback, and are acting on it

[candid burrow]

its not like they released something to make you upset personally, there are humans working on it

sometimes people make mistakes or dont see the full picture

[jade gull]

I guess thats how games work. They put new stuff ask for feedback and then fix accordingly. I guess im to used games that just have minimal disruption from releasing new content

Like new chapters/expansions and stuff

[stable socket]

Nah, they don’t have anything like “user acceptance testing”. That’s us, we’re the UAT.

[jade gull]

https://tenor.com/view/daladada-cat-crying-cry-scream-gif-24748831

[iron hare]

Even if like, release all the collection and instead you go through this 'longer than lab' grind for pieces of 'gem fragments' to slot into collection, it would nowhere be this frustrating

[stable socket]

I really wonder how people struggle with this, but I’m glad they’re adding a sweep.

[candid burrow]

its very common across all of gaming now. even billion dollar companies that do testing, nothing is as good of a test as your whole playerbase getting it and finding problems within 10 minutes

[jade gull]

Good to know that this is the norm. Just gotta follow through it then

[iron hare]

Okay uh... Do I just stack CDA or have both PP and rest CDA

[candid burrow]

think some people are afraid to commit to upgrading mediocre heroes. or you get really bad rng i guess and get little upgrades

[feral trench]

Id take both golds

[jade gull]

Im noob i barely know anything in depth abt the game. But i try to learn and many dont cause for them its a 15min game

[iron hare]

Oh yeah, also allow dupes to be auto merged at the end

That way you can actually try at least 'tactically' pick

@feral trench But like, both purple CDA? Or PP is important enough to stack

[inner rivet]

the rng of the upgrade/swap events has been really brutal for me the past several runs

if i get the upgrade one at all, it'll be super early when all i have is blues lol

[feral trench]

Oh the stats from anything less than yellow are so miniscule it's like who cares pick whatever

I'm sure there's a correct answer, I can't see it making a difference anywhere

[iron hare]

Ya see, another huge issue is the rarity power difference

If full red was NOT like 4x the difference of purple then yeah

Actually even more

[jade gull]

Who is for?

[iron hare]

Building for Lyca right now

[jade gull]

Pp is great!

[iron hare]

Gut instinct is stack CDA and keep the orange PP

[jade gull]

Cda too

Take both

[iron hare]

But you know? Only four slots because more pea brained

[jade gull]

Lemme check real quick for the offensive stats give me a min. Cda over pp for alyca I think

[iron hare]

I'm very tempted to 3x CDA because Lyca is E88 ngl

[sweet folio]

e88

[jade gull]

e88? then go for pp prob lol

[feral trench]

I just think it would have been cool to play the game mode at least once in my 20ish runs and not have had the thought "who cares, it doesn't matter what I pick if it's not red or a skill up it's barely useful"

[jade gull]

cda has cap

[iron hare]

Oh didn't know that

[jade gull]

i think frog or someone pointed out cda cap at 60

[jade gull]

yeah...learning everyday here as well lol

[sweet folio]

what's the source on that

[iron hare]

I understand at the end of the day anything without skill+1 instantly becomes lesser but having no red is still frustrating

[jade gull]

had a convo on this in nihi server as well

kaia and others mentioned something along the lines too

[stable socket]

CDA has a cap, it’s in the stat description

But your enemies have CDR

[sweet folio]

ah

[jade gull]

[sweet folio]

but have you considered that lilith tooltips are never correct

[stable socket]

So in practical terms you want all the CDA you can get

[iron hare]

[stable socket]

Very true, but aimb and I did a ton of testing on CDA to confirm it works the way it says

[iron hare]

Oh well, I guess not having skill 1 means they are more or less the same trash

[jade gull]

^^^ive seen peeps test it too

[iron hare]

[stable socket]

I’d still have the records but some lunatic deleted the server in one of their foaming at the mouth fits of rage

[jade gull]

true lol. ive heard base arti r all more or less the same lol

[iron hare]

Delete a wholesome server because madness?

[stable socket]

Yep

[jade gull]

wow the heck lol

[sweet folio]

i wonder who that could be

[jade gull]

oh.

[candid burrow]

wonder

[iron hare]

I'll admit I delete randoms off friend list when I'm in bad mood but still

[candid burrow]

[jade gull]

wait. i think i get it

[iron hare]

Iz dis worth...

[jade gull]

i prob should be glad i didnt join OS before this year lol

[jade gull]

can afford it

not recommended for low spenders/f2p from what ik

[iron hare]

Me not whale though I refuse to spend in this shitty feature when I get what I paid for from cores and things

[sweet folio]

if you aren't whaling rods def not, at least not right now

[jade gull]

im not whaling this system either. unless the cut down the cost....make it like the price and length of noble at least plz

[sweet folio]

its' not clear how much passive income we'll get from events and the like

but after the 10/day stops soon it's like 0 rods unless you spend diamonds. at least for now

[stable socket]

Cost wise, they are on par with pets

[iron hare]

It's not that, it's that this one even as spender you're much much, worse off than a F2P that won roulette? Yeah no

[stable socket]

We need arcane staff rewards from weeklies

[jade gull]

yeahhhh theyve said theyll add it with the MS feedback release

[sweet folio]

eh whaling will give you a lot more legendary = a lot more +2 chances. you'll get way ahead of f2p

[iron hare]

We spend to crush F2P not being masochistic enough to want the other way around

[jade gull]

they said itll be slowly added as rewards across game modes or something...

[sweet folio]

look at whale collections, they're already p stacked

[jade gull]

im not super worried abt krakens.

[sweet folio]

i jsut think the difference between perfect collection and a good collection is too small to spend on, but that's just me

[jade gull]

cause even they get screwed over lol

[iron hare]

You want a working 'collection' system? Diablo drop system

Doesn't take forever to do one attempt

[jade gull]

im too unfamiliar with games whatever it is. they def should optimize it

[stable socket]

Doesn’t take forever to do a collection either

I’m done in 5-8 mins

The analysis paralysis is real I guess

[frank edge]

and the 2 minutes of celebration when u hit +1 skill

[iron hare]

Cringe...

[sweet folio]

i still only got 1 of that, in the 10? runs we got so far

[frank edge]

same

after that i was praying for good stats

[sweet folio]

that's the best one generally at least

if you have a shit mythic stat you can get any stat you want

[iron hare]

@sweet folio Swap a green with a green let's go 🤪

[frank edge]

for dae bae

[iron hare]

[sweet folio]

jelly

[jade gull]

Wow

[forest totem]

fish

[jade gull]

duck yummy

[long heath]

Is Cero’s guide, when they say Baden, Belinda, Athalia, etc. are they talked about the awakened versions or the base hero?

[sweet folio]

always woke

[long heath]

ah ok thank you

[lean lance]

when do attempts reset?

[jade gull]

w. weekly quest reset most prob

[indigo sequoia]

Sharing my format to track & plan collections:
(1) In case it helps anyone, and
(2) For any feedback on whether my mapping of type of collection to hero makes sense.

Choice of collection for me is focused on improving CR while maintaining TS, but hero priority order is trying to cover heroes which get used in both modes so I don't suddenly drop out of TS t100.

For next prios, will probably be: Trader's Vault (Rowan), Spell Bondage (Naroko), Armor (Eorin) -- and any improvement I get will replace existing higher pri heroes.

[placid drift]

I like the format
Will do one of those for myself too, good idea

[indigo sequoia]

I don't like sharing my personal info, so not sharing a copy of my sheet directly in this thread. Happy to create a copy later if there's a way to do it "incognito" but would be great if someone else gets to it first 😛

[soft hollow]

why bondage over watch for ashem? 😮

[indigo sequoia]

I don’t have a strong opinion on that and have heard mixed opinions - am open to changing mine. Initially went with the early Chinese guide recommendation… Is Watch the consensus now?

[soft hollow]

oh i'm just as confused then, also seeing mixed opinion

[jade gull]

its a pve vs pvp thing for this collection i think

watch good for like pvp (ts) and bondage for pve (cr/nc) kinda thing i think?

[indigo sequoia]

That’s my low confidence understanding as well.

[tranquil plover]

Sigh, these collections are making this game ultra-hardcore lol

Considering the random aspect of it, impossible to manage without dedicated excel spreadsheets lol

[placid drift]

That's pretty much fine, Zura, don't worry
Not like those columns are hard to replicate

[slender wadi]

Many heroes will want one of each. Specifically might dps

Like Emi too, I generally like the notion of wings on her but it fucks up hound run so she needs eyes for it

[placid drift]

Glad they are fixing the awful mistake that was the 24h timer

[indigo sequoia]

But but but the colors? How will you ever replicate those??

[indigo sequoia]

Why do wings mess up Hound?

[placid drift]

Charms before Ez can apply his effect and messes up the run

[stable socket]

Nice!!

[twilit turtle]

I’m trying for traders vault again. let’s see how it goes

[spare warren]

I can never level it up now?

It will stay stuck at lvl 1?

[twilit turtle]

right

[indigo sequoia]

Oh… that’s a pain - I don’t want to constantly have to switch for NC. I might just leave her on the Oden one then.

[slender wadi]

0 mythics

[sweet folio]

Use some totems smh

[twilit turtle]

made it to floor 10 but won zero fights on that floor

[jade gull]

......all green stats...gotta be kidding me....

[twilit turtle]

no, that’s before I etched. final product

[stable socket]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-gif-23756243

[jade gull]

[twilit turtle]

It’s what I get for using blue totems

[candid burrow]

my best one so far

[tepid helm]

how

I've done like 15 runs now with nothing remotely that bad

[jade gull]

second run: abel. first one i lost lol

[indigo sequoia]

Isn’t that the norm? I feel like I’ve only had 1-2 runs with mythics so far. How DR as a stat? I’ve generally been shooting for CDR as my defensive stat and ignoring DR in favor of other stats.

[indigo sequoia]

Nice!

[jade gull]

DR is real good. the first one i translated i mistranslated DR/CDR. DR is what im aiming for but i havent got one yet lol

[indigo sequoia]

Oh, good to know!

[jade gull]

i posted a revised version of the cn one

[iron hare]

Traps are way too common, needs to all just be chests

[quiet vine]

Can anyone answer these two questions about pulling totems and wishlist?

1. I did 50 pulls this week so I have 150 left. Do I still have 150 after weekly reset?

2. I did 200 pulls this week so I have 0 left. I have 20 pulls where I can use wishlist.
   Do I still have 20 after weekly reset?

[mortal anvil]

I hope this image helps

[red niche]

I tried to create an artifact for ABelinda, but I only got extremelly shitty stats till level 10 of gallery. None of them are worth the mage class heroes, and just lvl 10 alone is not enough to transform them into something useful. So i'd like to see more class-specific stats and less shitty random with useless stats (btw, half of them are useless for any hero class in general). Also, the bottom ATK stat is always forgotten, while HP and DEF are rising pretty well. Doesn't look like just bad random to me.
Also, the wish list doesn't work well. I got kinda 3 totems already, that are not in the list.

[jaunty cove]

If only they don't give us PP on mages and MP on rangers and warriors

[jade gull]

i havent got MP anywhere....

let alone PP...blue at most i think

[jaunty cove]

They are definitely rare

Crit PP MP and attack

[twilit turtle]

Also, finished the show. Second part was very…rushed

[red niche]

Can I please hate you?

[twilit turtle]

it’s not even a +1!!!

[red niche]

Oh, yes

[jade gull]

[red niche]

Anyway, devs must die do something...

[jade gull]

they will. but question is when

[red niche]

And how

[jade gull]

when theyre out of budget and actors have other plans

[jaunty cove]

They are making it as less shitry but still shitty system

[twilit turtle]

this is a waste

[jade gull]

its sad but ig u can still kinda use it?

there r supports that like mp maybe? lol no support like pp but mp still kinda works

[red niche]

Demia?

[jade gull]

daemia is mage i think

[red niche]

oh, right

[twilit turtle]

it was originally supposed to be 60 episodes but something passed that said to limit dramas to 40 episodes? Which makes sense since the first story arc takes 30 episodes. I’m going to watch it again I think. Reading subtitles means I probably missed things

[twilit turtle]

I’m thinking liberta?

[jade gull]

yeah lib would be pretty good!

[jade gull]

yeah...also cause dramas in cn is known for trying to get money of it and putting in filler episodes. so they had plans to take it slow but then rules changed so they had to pack up in a hurry something along the lines i remember. the entertainment industry in cn is a huge mess ngl (a lot worse then the west)

[jaunty cove]

Maybe Lucilla likes PP

[red niche]

Sounds horny

[jade gull]

not super sure about this one. gotta ask the stat experts.

[jaunty cove]

[iron hare]

The moment you get a red... You get MP if your collection is for physical user and PP for caster

[jade gull]

literally me. got lucky and swapped at least

[twilit turtle]

hypos so op. fun at least

[gaunt obsidian]

how many wishlist chances per week?

[jade gull]

agreed!

[iron hare]

It's not fun because you're still powerless despite your actual heroes being even E8X and all you get is these lousy E

[twilit turtle]

Hmm, filler episodes? They usually serve a point. I guess I can see how it could be taken advantage of though

[tranquil dew]

yeah, palmer

[iron hare]

Red full def, on a cele collection, swap with orange PP or green crit?

[jade gull]

crit!

def crit!

[iron hare]

Come to think of it crit is ridiculously rare yeah...

[jade gull]

crit is real good and rare

[iron hare]

Is energy regen actually good

Got a swap as the very last 'custom'

[jade gull]

err is OP

dont swap it. its also ultra rare

wtf y getting all these good ones

[iron hare]

Then which one?

The only other orange is the PP

Obviously no so I have to now choose a purple

[jade gull]

send all ur stats. cause ur gonna have to slot 4 offensive 3 defensive

keep pp err for sure

and who is this op one for?

[iron hare]

[jade gull]

wtf

cheat

hacker

[iron hare]

There's no skill+1 so it's still a bad one

[jade gull]

right...go dip urself into lava plz....

who is this for?

[iron hare]

I was up to making one for Lyca

[jade gull]

ah this one is gonna be OP on her lol

u got a swap option or a combine?

[iron hare]

This is the last one and it's a reroll

[jade gull]

reroll gotcha

[iron hare]

That's why because like some guide says ERR is not good?

Lyca doesn't use erosion does she

[jade gull]

not good guide ngl. its the offensive def stat out there

prob just reroll f.buff or ers both useless

[iron hare]

What about heal

I guess I won't have slot anyway but still

[jade gull]

u can only keep 7. u wont need heal either

u prob dont have to worry about alyca for a long while lol

[mortal anvil]

i don't see 2% more energy generation being noticeable

[iron hare]

Welp last boss fight of the run

TY or HP or CBR?

[jade gull]

which one for final 7? i dont get what ur asking

[jade gull]

hp hp ty

[iron hare]

Stack HP because Lyca squishy?

[jade gull]

ty is real good

[mortal anvil]

yw

[iron hare]

Okie guess this one will serve her nicely for a while

[jade gull]

it piles up i think. ive seen some testing on this and seems like err is quite nice

[iron hare]

All right next hero... Urgh

[jade gull]

tell be abt it...im burned out from doing the runs...still have to do like 2....

started with like 12 or something

[iron hare]

Have dis one for Solise

[jade gull]

nice! skill+1!

[stark slate]

Which one for Rem?

[jade gull]

ofc the right side one

pp atk atk atk all good stuff

[paper wasp]

heya

[jade gull]

theres too many peeps there rn

hey! send again plz

[jade gull]

is this for swapping or for what?

[paper wasp]

im in the swap stat to different tiers

[jade gull]

LL to IS prob its blue/green swap doesnt matter much

u wanna keep that prf ngl

[paper wasp]

oke. can i @ ya here whenever i need ya?

[jade gull]

yeap!

[paper wasp]

sweet

[jade gull]

if theres too many peeps @ in the streaming one instead

[paper wasp]

[jade gull]

[paper wasp]

@jade gull refresh ritual?

hp?

[jade gull]

what floor u at and its for rem right?

[paper wasp]

floor 7 and yes

[jade gull]

rem likes hp. keep. refresh armor. trash stat

[paper wasp]

oop i accidentally canceled the ritual lol

[grizzled grotto]

Another tip when making Collec is to be flexible
If you get stats that benefit a diff hero than your initial plan you should keep them and target that instead

[paper wasp]

for sure

[jade gull]

very useful tip^^^

[paper wasp]

ill see whats best when i fet to the end

[jade gull]

yep

[paper wasp]

swapping ritual

@jade gull

[jade gull]

send the rest of the stat

this is useful

[paper wasp]

right

[jade gull]

wow theres like several good ones. better hope for another of these ritual.

[paper wasp]

[jade gull]

swap f.erosion to pp

[paper wasp]

replicate ritual? i dont think whole list is needed for this

[jade gull]

wait. u had red ones?!

[paper wasp]

i just got them

[jade gull]

oh. then its fine. now u rly want that swap lol

[paper wasp]

[jade gull]

replicated the red ofc

[paper wasp]

for sure

dosent matter?

[jade gull]

f.def prob slightly better

[paper wasp]

didnt realise but it ended apparently

[jade gull]

ugh aight

slot the bottom middle one last of the 7 slots

[paper wasp]

for sure

@jade gull whats dr?

[jade gull]

damage resistance

[paper wasp]

icy

[jade gull]

one of the best defensive stats

[paper wasp]

i answered lally this a little ago: atk pp crit and dr ty hp

ignore this

[jade gull]

one more run for palmer and i can finally more one....

[paper wasp]

should i run either def or buffer?

[fierce hollow]

Def

[jade gull]

for?

[paper wasp]

[jade gull]

what hero? what ritual?

[paper wasp]

farara has short term memory loss?

[jade gull]

oh rem

still rem?

[paper wasp]

yes

[jade gull]

ur making that many for her lol

[grizzled grotto]

Random thought, but Buffer existing makes stealing mines even more of a meme. Because you can have a collec that counter teams them even harder

[jade gull]

what ritual is this? copy? if yes then hp

[paper wasp]

no. im choosing the artis stats still

[jade gull]

oh. lol

not done?!

[paper wasp]

hey this is my first time actually giving a fuck for what i choose

[jade gull]

slot the right side first it helps

and then the left side from the most left to the bottom

[paper wasp]

already did left side. wondering for right side as we speak

sorry farara

im confusing ya a bit haha

[jade gull]

yeah. lol then the hp and f.def ig

the last slot id do hp cause f.buffer is a bit...but u could do f.buffer to ig if u rly want

[paper wasp]

ill just run it again for rem

[fierce hollow]

Smol pp

[paper wasp]

its still young

[jade gull]

dont run another for rem. chose someone else lol

[paper wasp]

kk

[jade gull]

not the worst over there ig

[paper wasp]

who next then?

[fierce hollow]

My pp is bigger

[paper wasp]

share it with me

[jade gull]

big pp. not kids friendly fyi

[jade gull]

what collections have u crafted so far?

[paper wasp]

dance x3

[jade gull]

just dance?

[paper wasp]

and time watch

[jade gull]

anymore?

[paper wasp]

actually dance x4

[jade gull]

craft oculus. u got abel right?

[paper wasp]

ye

and mae

[spare warren]

I hate my luck, tried to get ashem stats and not a single skill lvl +1

[paper wasp]

@jade gull what does abel want?

[jade gull]

dont bother w. mae rn. mae got quest one. make one eyes (oden one, oculus) for abel: atk, mp, crit and dr, hp, ty

[paper wasp]

stats

kk

[spare warren]

What about trish, you have any idea?

[jade gull]

trish is one of the ones im holding off myself. not super sure ngl.

id think mp prf err is good but the rest...not super sure?

[spare warren]

Oden collection?

[jade gull]

ehhhhh. dont take my word one this. prob oden yeah i think?

i have trish as well but im holding crafting one for her rn

[spare warren]

Currently using this (for some reason, my atck stats were trash)

[jade gull]

looks real decent

[spare warren]

For ashem, bondage right?

[jade gull]

yeap

at least from how i feel yeah (cr)

[spare warren]

And can I use this on Ivan?

Sorry for the constant questioning, I'm still confused with these

[jade gull]

looks good atk and f.atk good for ivan offensive stat wise

[paper wasp]

this one for abel yes?

[jade gull]

yeah

[spare warren]

Btw, I finally got ashem to mythic+

[paper wasp]

mines M30 rn

[jade gull]

shit stats here ugh

[spare warren]

She was also the 1st character I made s30, then I s30 trish (I know there are priorities but I just went with the characters I like)

[paper wasp]

[spare warren]

I'm currently working on liberta whome I finally made mythic (that dude hated coming from SG)

[paper wasp]

dont bother w. mae rn. mae got quest one. make one eyes (oden one, oculus) for abel: atk, mp, crit and dr, hp, ty

dont mind this

[jade gull]

shit luck ugh

[paper wasp]

@jade gull last two for offensive?

(abel)

[jade gull]

f.erosion and wait a bit

[paper wasp]

and wait a bit?

[jade gull]

f.ers and prf?

or could stack f.ers

up to u

[paper wasp]

why you making it a question? idk

[jade gull]

stacking is safer ig lol

[paper wasp]

thank you.

i need someone to tell me what is good or bad. farara plz dont let me rely on myself

also crit is cda yes?

[jade gull]

nooooo

crit is crit

[paper wasp]

[jade gull]

cda is separate

[paper wasp]

[jade gull]

CRIT stat is as rare as ERR i wanna say

[paper wasp]

so?

[jade gull]

nice!!

good abel one. u can leave em like this for awhile

[paper wasp]

next?

[jade gull]

go off of this prio. skip whichever hero u dont have built. before u start lemme know which hero ur working on. most of the collection here r pretty good. from cero's guide

[paper wasp]

ok.

[paper wasp]

ashem good to do or not yet?

[jade gull]

ur ashem is m right?

[paper wasp]

yep M30

[jade gull]

id push it off a bit. no rush

[hoary hare]

I use this to for belinda

[paper wasp]

k

[paper wasp]

thats the plan

[hoary hare]

This good?

[jade gull]

f.atk id use on dae or emi ngl dae prob better

[paper wasp]

guess i can do swolise

[hoary hare]

I see okay

[jade gull]

my asol one turned out so bad

[paper wasp]

farararararararararararara

stats for swolise?

[jade gull]

atk, f.atk, crit and f.hp, heal, ty for asol

[lucid blaze]

does aathalias collection like mp

[jade gull]

dislikes very much

pp is good

[paper wasp]

i decided farara. i ain't doing anymore gg runs tonight. imma hit ya with a ping sometime tmre for a reminder for solise k

@jade gull

[jade gull]

i cant bet ill be around tomorrow im actually gonna dip soon rn

prob gonna be here at most a few hours before reset

[paper wasp]

whenever ya next on just reply to my ling

ping

will try to allign some free time

[jade gull]

[timber tapir]

Gonna be one Jerome copy short of the avatar

[zenith vault]

Get your HCPs in

Or MV if you didn't complete that yet

[timber tapir]

Already done

[plain reef]

Which stat is better for emilia prf or ins?

[jade gull]

@static bobcat general stat rec for:
aBel: atk, mp, crit / dr, ty, hp
Lib: atk, f.atk, crit / dr, ty, hp
aLyca: atk, pp, crit / dr, ty, hp
Rem: atk, pp , crit / dr, ty, hp
Dae: atk, f.atk / dr, f.hp, f.def
aShem: f.atk, atk, err / dr, ty, f.hp

[jade gull]

ins? prf is good but whats ins?

[plain reef]

Insight

[static bobcat]

Goatrara back it again, thank you so much

[plain reef]

Is* sorry

[jade gull]

IS. is has a max of 60. check hero info page on how much more emi can take. dont give too much. its a good stat moderately

[plain reef]

So should i focus on maxing is before going for prf?

[jade gull]

nah dont bother deliberaly doing it. prf is generally pretty good so just do a balance of both ig

[plain reef]

Ah got it thanks

[ivory shuttle]

Am I doing this right?

[languid dragon]

delete this system

[waxen badger]

ashem wants HP for defensive because she scales off it btw

[jade gull]

Yeah prob the third stat id put in her. Hp is good

[noble sable]

What stats am I looking for for Lyca?

[tepid helm]

Damage

[jade gull]

crit, pp atk etc.

[gaunt obsidian]

which 2 totems to wishlist other then worker and gift?

[jade gull]

i just run blues soooo

[noble sable]

Who is this good for?

[sweet folio]

Maybe palmer

[plain reef]

Is rowan better with mp or full attack?

[tepid helm]

What would either of those do for rowan?

He doesn't do damage

[plain reef]

Full attack gives his team damage what other offensive stat would you pick?

[tepid helm]

oh right I forgot full attack is the team buff one I thought you meant give him like all attack relics lol

[plain reef]

Oh lol yeah thats what I meant. But yeah i thought rowan might be like palmer where mp may be beneficial

[tepid helm]

no palmer is unique cause he gives his buffs scale with his stats

[plain reef]

Yup 👍 thanks

[ionic crane]

what is the best artifact and which are the best stats for Palmer?

[low remnant]

Hey, I need to pick 2 more offensive runes and 3 defensive runes, it's an oculus for my aBel, I'm a bit lost so idk what to take

[grizzled grotto]

ERS ATK
DEF BUFF CBR
I guess

Or maybe double cbr

Buffer sucks in CR and AwBel more relevant in CR than TS

[late haven]

Yo S1x do you know if arti based CC like on luminous uses the hero's IS? I've been seeing folks put +2 skill lumi's on heroes without IS and thought that was a waste, but I'm not actually sure

[grizzled grotto]

I don't know, haven't seen any testing but I assume it is

[late haven]

@lean lance Wanna test something? XD

[grizzled grotto]

I think the only collec CC that people without good luck have is Wings

[low remnant]

what def runes does ivan want?

[tranquil dew]

that's a god tier palmer collec except for the fact he might want rowan base

[sweet folio]

yeah he prob would want the rowan base

at what point do stats beat the ability tho

[twilit mauve]

what stats for luminous flight for liberta

[tepid helm]

damage

[edgy tide]

What stats does Rem want?

[tepid helm]

damage

[edgy tide]

So ATK, Erosion?

[sweet folio]

give her big pp

erosion is only for people who do a lot of health loss, I don't think rem does

[slender wadi]

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[sweet folio]

lmao he yoinked it

@timber rover you thief

[jolly elm]

Not getting skillup makes it really hard for me to decipher if its good enough of not. I feel like i got alright stats but idk if its ever enough w/o skillup

[tepid helm]

its not gonna be good enough until you get +2 with all mythic skills

there is always room for improvement until you get that

[twilit turtle]

[jolly elm]

Ive never got more than 3 mythics idk how all of you have such insane luck. Even when i used gold totems.

And when i got the three, it was like erosion, full buffer and buffer

[edgy tide]

Rem collection + stats?

Shadow dancer with PP > ATK?

[pearl juniper]

ye

[stable socket]

Lucilla

[stable socket]

I’ve used it in rift, where enemies have much higher tenacity. Initially it seems like they can’t be resisted.

Which would make proficiency as a stat finally worth a damn.

[ruby basin]

Not bad for joan

[lean lance]

I have a backlog of things to test but I can put it on the list

[late haven]

that's crazy busted if true. we're pretty early into rift though, I don't have the impression it scales linearly at all so enemy TY might just be very low at the moment?

[late haven]

feel free to ping me if you ever find anything

[stable socket]

Yep we need more info. My PvP tests aren’t exactly the best but it hasn’t failed once yet.

[lean lance]

try having a high level player set Anasta on pvp defense. use your low IS support hero. see if it sleeps her

[stuck frigate]

Good for Liberta? Got unlucky with damage stats but I thought erosion would be decent?

[jade gull]

yeah works

[lean lance]

What are unions? Only matter within current fight?

[jade gull]

yes

[candid burrow]

current run, but yes

[jade gull]

union effects kinda like the faction bonus we receive in fights basically, but during the run you get options to pick which kind of union effect u want

[sweet folio]

it's like the buffs in lab or peaks of time, just called unions cause lilith can't afford to hire an actual localization team

[idle adder]

collecting collections, unions buffing unions etc

[timber tapir]

Ironic for a Chinese company to have unions in their game

[violet cobalt]

hi, if anyone can help me choose for my tamrus , i have 2 great artifacts but havong trouble deciding

i think i fcked up with choosing 2nd mythic to be atk instead of LL

[idle adder]

tamrus likes to be alive so first one is obvious

[sweet folio]

i wouldn't say either are great tamrus artifacts, he wants IS and prof

[idle adder]

he cant cc and buff if hes dead

[sweet folio]

but it's better put on someone who will benefit from the atk

[idle adder]

he asked about tamrus tho

[sweet folio]

yes, and I'm saying don't use either for tamrus ideally and get another one

[daring sun]

What’s this good for

Just erosion all the way

[sweet folio]

not really good for anything tbh. could put it on someone you use sometimes but won't target for a good collection for a long time

[idle adder]

can work on merlin for that emi/asaf comp

[daring sun]

Oh ya Merlin could use this

[royal oxide]

I have 8 runs. Did they not reset per week?

[idle adder]

wdym

thats how much you should have now

[royal oxide]

I didn't use one run last week, I though it would reset to 7?

[idle adder]

then you lost it

7+1=8

[royal oxide]

Oh, I see

Ty

[torpid delta]

Not sure what artifacts to make lol

I guess I'll do albedo

Spell bondage?

[rare turtle]

[feral trench]

Nice! A crucial piece of the puzzle

[mellow furnace]

My best collection last week, who should I give this to..? 🤔

[jade gull]

ASHEM!

gonna be real nice on her. awesome work on that wow

[sweet folio]

ppl getting + 2 when I have just a single +1

[slender wadi]

[inner rivet]

yep same here

[jade gull]

i dont even have +1 skill...most r base...havent had a lvl ability once yet

[grizzled grotto]

Even getting a single +1 is pretty fortunate

[rare turtle]

[jade gull]

run em on lib. ur solid lol. or some support that acts like carry pretty much

[clear tundra]

Yeah I put on lib

[jade gull]

[clear tundra]

[waxen badger]

potato should i do a SWaG run on something

[jade gull]

[grizzled grotto]

PP for that Ezizh/Joan damage

[vale yarrow]

[clear tundra]

This all blue run are better

[noble sable]

Unless you want lvl 3. Lol

[analog jacinth]

I have some built collections already should I be replacing them sooner rather than later?

Replacing the collections with the current artifacts I mean

[wraith walrus]

okay being able to sell a collection for 100 diamonds is actually very nice

[jade gull]

dont sell it. bad arti still has value early on. when u have ore than 1 for every hero feel free to sell

[jagged lynx]

i make arti for atha

[wraith walrus]

well idk how neccesary one for eeevery hero will be when theyre removing the swap limit