collections

[slender wadi]

FIRST

[tidal pendant]

[slender wadi]

for once actually not lying

[candid burrow]

ty for your valuable contribution potato

[slender wadi]

you're welcome zappy

[tidal pendant]

Get eroded

[slender wadi]

Can we get a +2 in the chat

[neat eagle]

[tidal pendant]

+2 and literally nothing else

[slender wadi]

that's how it goes

[candid burrow]

im trying to make things look pretty

can we please calm down until i am done

thank you

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[slender wadi]

u forgot to @ everyone zappy

[candid burrow]

[grizzled grotto]

@hereveryone

I'm pretty sure that didn't make me tag people right

[candid burrow]

no, its disabled

[grizzled grotto]

Was 99.9% sure it would be, but I got scared for a second

[candid burrow]

i would have been upset

[ivory isle]

first

[frank edge]

The luna@ didn't work

Didn't want to @ here tho

[candid burrow]

its ok, as long as its in the thread it will be collected

[frank edge]

Lol the @ you worked

[median pier]

so does anyone want to explain this because i still don't know anything about this

why does it look so intimidating

i know joux hates it tho

[tidal pendant]

Joux hates everything

[mortal anvil]

What would you like to know fish

sorry, i mean fsh

[median pier]

i lost an i

and i was mostly joking, i'll look into it tomorrow or later probably and should probably be fine

it IS intimidating tho

[candid burrow]

its not as complicated as it looks

[grim cairn]

The hell man new collection broke alna rem strat

[mortal anvil]

you go through like a roguelite and collect stats to put on your artifact

[candid burrow]

at least for the gameplay part

[grim cairn]

The delay make enemy invulnerable longer than us

[mortal anvil]

and you can use totems at the start to affect what stats drop and such

[median pier]

so it's like artifacts but harder to level?

[mortal anvil]

think of it more like equipment that goes into the artifact slot

you can have multiple copies, only 1 hero can equip one at a time

and you can customize the stats on it, depending on rng

[median pier]

oh yikes, so basically you have to grind like 25 eventually for 5 teams

[mortal anvil]

well getting them is easy since you get 7-10 per week, the hard part is getting good stats on them

[median pier]

don't you have to focus on select few to level them more instead of getting a lot?

(i have no idea how it works still)

[grim cairn]

Its just Mihoyo type grinding for sub stat

[mortal anvil]

nope you just run through once and whatever you end up with is what you get

[median pier]

OH

can you get rid of them if it's bad?

[mortal anvil]

yeah you can recycle them

[median pier]

ok good

[mortal anvil]

the sink/grind is basically getting higher tier totems

which affect what stats drop

[median pier]

i should probably start looking into it so i don't drop out of 10% TS or something, but...lazy

[mortal anvil]

so like a f2p might just run through with basic blue totems or no totems and get 1 red atk and 1 orange and some purples

whereas a whale who got a bunch of summons can use better ones and end up with all red stats

[median pier]

you get better totems if you pay...?

[mortal anvil]

totems are consumables

[median pier]

oh ew, i thought you just got more tries by paying

[mortal anvil]

and you get them by summoning basically

[median pier]

i forgot what this game is like

[mortal anvil]

robo linked this in taverns

[median pier]

i have no idea what that means tbh

i guess white stars = good

[mortal anvil]

the top left red stats are atk

so 16% atk

[median pier]

i can read chinese

[tidal pendant]

skill level +2, 7.92% attack x2, 8.54 damage resist x2, 12.82% HP, 7.23 MP

[mortal anvil]

fish can't read idiot

[median pier]

my problem is i have no idea what makes that better than others

since i've seen none

i have no point of comparison

[tidal pendant]

A normal artifact has like 2-4 red stats

[median pier]

[tidal pendant]

at best

and most of them are +0

[median pier]

so this is double the strength of normal people's relics

can f2p save longer for better runs?

or is it doomed

[mortal anvil]

yeah you can

[tidal pendant]

getting +1 is lucky, getting two +1s requires a specific totem and also getting lucky, getting two +1s and also getting everything else being good red stats is like winning the lottery

[mortal anvil]

think of saving as like

[median pier]

ok, so you still have a chance to go for fewer but better one of these thingies

[mortal anvil]

f2p building 1 pet to 18

while the whale gets reso 18 in the same timeframe

[median pier]

yeah i kinda see it now

at least there's a chance so it's not impossible competition

[slender wadi]

Not bad for a +0

[median pier]

if game still alive this time next year then they'll release something like reso 18 for us to catch up anyway

[median pier]

so 3 red 4 yellow is good for normal run, the 1 red 2 yellow 4 purple above is on the low end, and in between are normal?

[slender wadi]

low end is zero reds

perp got a crazy run with 5 reds

[median pier]

oh i see, so 1 red is still on average

[tidal pendant]

it depends on totems

[slender wadi]

3 good reds i would say is above average

[tidal pendant]

1-2 reds with blue totems is probably average

[median pier]

we're talking about 0 totem thingies here, i think

or just, whatever amount f2p can afford this week

[pearl juniper]

so what's the first collection we should go for?

rowan?

[slender wadi]

don't do 0 totem runs

[median pier]

oh ok

lissen i know literally nothing

[candid burrow]

can do blue at least, theyre pretty abundant

[mortal anvil]

you can also combine lower tier totems

[pearl juniper]

I'm colourblind, are these blue?

[slender wadi]

[candid burrow]

[pearl juniper]

the left one has the same symbol as support which people say is blue

[slender wadi]

oh are you actually colorblind

[candid burrow]

those are gold or yelllow

[slender wadi]

they're yellow

[median pier]

do you see in greyscale 😢

[candid burrow]

blue = lowest tier

[pearl juniper]

no I was trying to joke

yeah I got over 30 of those

[median pier]

i mean not impossible, but i think yellow/blue color blind is like, giga color blind usually

[candid burrow]

not the dress again

[pearl juniper]

I'd assume so yeah lmao

so for first run do I just choose the 3 blues and wing it?

[candid burrow]

thats what i did

[pearl juniper]

what a selection and a half

[slender wadi]

that's a great starting pool

cruke is really good

[pearl juniper]

I got this plus the hypo union thing

which is actually quite nice

need a 4th hypo now

[slender wadi]

yeah the hypo buff is quite strong

[pearl juniper]

damn I got 2 greens and 2 blues

lucy cheese time

[void root]

Used all my luck for some time

[void root]

I got this one with only blue totems so there is a chance for F2P

[vale yarrow]

full def, def, full buffer, PP on supports

[quiet vine]

whipped this up quickly for those who have no idea whats going on. Any suggestions about content? still working on it

[jade gull]

ty for the work! id also list AE on the top itd be nice if u can figure out the when the weekly timer resets for this (perhaps ask customer support in game, ill prob do it myself as well after im done with the stuff i have on my hands)

[quiet vine]

I assume its the same weekly reset as everything except rift/NC/CR?

[candid burrow]

doesnt it list in game when it resets

[jade gull]

i tried finding it...im clicking on it rn but dont c it....

[candid burrow]

i thought i saw it somewhere, but maybe i am crazy

[jade gull]

i assumed that too...im thinkng its the same as the weekly shop for this system?

[quiet vine]

I dont see it ingame. Not sure if collections work with rift too? probably do

[jade gull]

prob a good question to ask support as well. but they did say all game modes so i think the answer is yes

[jade gull]

maybe ur thinking about the vip shop timer for this system. cause thats what i was kinda assuming

[median pier]

oh nice, big

[candid burrow]

i thought it listed the time next to how many runs you had left, but its not there

[jade gull]

[median pier]

i have no idea what errosion is but it sounds powerful

[slender wadi]

its mp for life loss

[jade gull]

just like every other stat. good on some heroes meh on others

^^^

[median pier]

i learned already so not bad

[slender wadi]

Day 1 spoils

[median pier]

so are you just done till reset whenever that is? i thought people were saying 7 tries per week

that's 8

[slender wadi]

7 per week

for the first 7 day of collections existing we get an additional attempt each day

[quiet vine]

what does going to collection lvl 3 get you?

[slender wadi]

you get the +2 effect

[median pier]

one attempt per day

urgh does that mean i HAVE to go in today already

[slender wadi]

they stack

[slender wadi]

whatever the max attempts are, 7 is not it

[quiet vine]

where is that +2 effect listed ingame? I only see +1

[median pier]

oh good

[quiet vine]

tyty

[slender wadi]

you can't see it without using worker

[quiet vine]

gotcha

so everything without +2 is bad probably

[slender wadi]

not at all

most of the collections are fine at +0 or +1

armor absolutely needs +2

you'd really like to get a +2 eyes for bel

dancer and cover both need +1

the rest are totally operable at +0

a +2 watch for shem would also be nice

and then +2 on cover is also pretty great

[soft hollow]

Was about to ask abt Shem watch

[slender wadi]

but not strictly necessary to comopete

[median pier]

AE gonna be wild

"oh you never managed to build that collection thingy, guess you have to run another team"

"like what"

"no idea we don't have your collection thingies either"

[quiet vine]

done for now let me know suggestions

[iron hare]

So TL;DR pull first with those arcane thingis?

[quiet vine]

might as well

should I add big numbers on the left

like follow these 6 steps lol

[iron hare]

Okay this makes it slightly more bearable to look at because I had absolutely no idea last night and decided to hold off

[jade gull]

if u wanna cut down on words its doable too

[iron hare]

Very to the point, much appreciated

So original intention is getting gacha heroes and you have to think hard about how to upgrade, but so far it looks like it's done badly

[quiet vine]

what do you mean?

[quiet vine]

I havent found it difficult but I am coming in with some game knowledge. I'm going to add a comment with some tricks and tips

[jade gull]

for example
To begin, go to the Ghoulish Gallery
can also be
Begin in Ghoulish Gallery

prob can reword most of it so theres less writing

[quiet vine]

fair I'll give it another pass

[mortal anvil]

just show a picture of the uninstall button

1 word and done

[iron hare]

But there's no uninstall button and to uninstall you must hold the icon

[void root]

Doesnt matter

[iron hare]

May as well put a visual guide for Android users to direct them to Google Play Store and then uninstall or something

[quiet vine]

alright removed some wordiness and added numbers for the confused among us

[gritty niche]

How do you get to lvl2 collection, do you need specific totems for that?

[jade gull]

u need lvl up totems (either to start with or get one during the run)

[gritty niche]

so If I want to guarantee lvl2 I basically need 2 legendary totems

or can you not take duplicate ones in a single run

[jade gull]

u cant do duplicate i think. i tried it didnt let me select two of the same

[gritty niche]

so it's still gonna be rng no matter what

epic

[jade gull]

much better~ prob could cut more but y bother its a real nice guide

[tidal pendant]

you forgot step 8, cry a lot

[jade gull]

very true. should add a warning that this is RNG

[quiet vine]

step 8 is complain to lilith

[forest totem]

WRONG

Step 8 is quit the game

[late haven]

It's possible to roll some absolutely absurd IS values on these things, like over 50. Any specific heroes that have devastating CC but low IS I should think about tinkering with?

[clear tundra]

A lot of people quitting damn

[jovial jackal]

tasi.

[late haven]

neat, I'll have to give that a try sometime, cheers

[jade gull]

i just found out calci quit

[iron hare]

To be fair, this RNG dungeon thing looks tedious af and yeah, get shit

[jade gull]

agreed. its not just looks. it actually is

[forest totem]

Howl's gonna be sad

[jade gull]

it was nice to have him around....i was hoping he'd stick around in case this new system get fixed to be more afk friendly (it will i rly think so)

[jovial jackal]

rip

[forest totem]

Good, cause if not I am following him

[jade gull]

look at how quickly they approached MS. i actually am quite hopeful about it. im trying to gather my thoughts for the system before i write a feedback for it

[forest totem]

Let's hope so

[jade gull]

i def do. if they dont i think i may need to reconsider i lot of things as well (aka starting with turning back into f2p and then quit if needed)

[iron hare]

I'm about to clear 2 times on alt and I hate it with passion already

Yes it's not hard but nobody wants shit greens and blues

[jade gull]

exactly

[gaunt knoll]

Probably wouldn't be as aggravating as it is, if you only would have to do one time for each collection and you can grind out the min-max stats of each collection if you choose to do so.

[iron hare]

It's 2023 and they still think it's like fresh new accounts where greens and blues have a place?

What really should happen is you get rewarded with the actual pieces to sub out things after

Not get through entire collection and then rage because you get like 1x M

Also nobody said anything about redoing the same artifact OVERRIDES your better ones even if you choose NOT to engrave???

This is dog shit

This is also dumb, just change the whole thing to upgrade then ask if you want to reroll

Whole thing is dumb dumb dumb dumb

Garbage mode, seriously

[gaunt knoll]

I mean ... constructive criticism is a thing. Got something you don't like?
Think of a way to make it better and suggest it. But no, everyone is just ranting. The Devs are trying something new and immediately get hatred, because not everyone likes it, but I digress.

Yes, the current system lacks the AFK factor, whereas you essentially need to grind min-max stats on each collection for each hero individually. In addition, that if you want to swap out a collection, the 24h CD is fairly overkill for no real reason, because you were able to change artifacts as often as you wanted too.
The RNG gives people who are trying to get the most out of their heroes something to work with, because the effort will be rewarded afterwards, but since it's completely RNG, the chances of someone actually improving their collection is rather slim.

[vale yarrow]

u just have bad luck
Yeah shit mode for krakens but fun for F2Ps/Lows

[median pier]

OH RIGHT I CAN TEST ON ALT

why am i smol brain

[gaunt knoll]

[iron hare]

I'm glad I'm not suffering on main but still

The stat difference is way too far apart

[median pier]

now i don't have to read, can just go boom on alt

[iron hare]

'Trying something new' doesn't mean they should do something that changes power so dramatically

[median pier]

i mean, it's the new power creep people have been expecting

it's actually late

we expected one near september

[gaunt knoll]

Would be nice, if the system worked kinda like Temporal Rift where you can upgrade existing 'runes' without replacing it.

[iron hare]

Just let people bring their 5 hero team and remove all the useless 'hero upgrades'

[median pier]

i don't have an idea how this plays yet, just saying new power creeps will always work like that and be giga p2w

[iron hare]

Just... Make the 'drops' actual items you fuse/upgrade later and then slot individually on the actual collection

[median pier]

and then eventually they slowly made it slightly more friendly for everyone over time

[jade gull]

i kinda wanna say this system maybe a good idea to treat as additional to engraving. like how we engrave specific extra nodes on specific heroes. we'd prob add/chose those stats at the end of a run

[gaunt knoll]

See? Actual improvement suggestion. I am on the same page with that. Collect and improve them.

[median pier]

see: pets on release with whales getting all lv36 while we barely had one lv18, and now even f2p are closing in on reso 18

[iron hare]

That one doesn't offend spenders because they just buy them and upgrade progressively, this one pisses even whales off

[median pier]

i appreciate the effort to try and slow down p2w tho xd

imagine them with max thingies already while we're on magic ones with no good levels

at least for now they look like half maxed? xdd

[iron hare]

The right way to 'slow down' pay to win is not give as much power and NOT have RNG range from ridiculously bad to ridiculously good

[remote crane]

Pretty happy with this as a day 1 build

[median pier]

no idea what that means but as long as you're happy

[gaunt knoll]

Haven't had that luck, holy. Nice one!

[void root]

I am surprisingly lucky with those

[median pier]

did a run on alt, i no longer feel completely clueless

just mostly clueless

[grizzled grotto]

It's pretty simple, just a lot of rng

[umbral jungle]

[gloomy jackal]

Am I the only one hella confused about this system?

Is this like a permanent addition to the game?

[iron hare]

Unfortunately it is permanent and this first iteration is nothing but garbage

Pay to not win feature

[tulip yarrow]

its not that bad if u know what ur doing tbh

lots of rng tho

[void root]

Not rly that much

[tulip yarrow]

the totems need to be easier to get

[royal oxide]

I did a couple of runs with basic totems to get a feel of the system. I feel like high level totems are essential for a better average in short to mid term

[tulip yarrow]

way too much rng to get shafted early on a legendary run

but i imagine they will increase the amount of pulls we get for totems in time

and stronger runs will be easier to get

[velvet bronze]

Way too much rng, if stats sucks you're just screwed

[wraith walrus]

its like we're building a hero more than like pets or engraves

[zenith vault]

What's that luck jesus

I'm f2p so I don't think I can get any totems currently

[tidal pendant]

if you know what you're doing and you either whale totems or get super lucky with them

most people don't have a miracle worker totem yet

[bold shore]

How are we supposed to get these veils without money?

[split elk]

any benefits from 2 skill level buffs?

[vague sun]

I made this for my Mulan

[pallid hamlet]

what does full buffer even do lol? I have this on my aBelinda

[tepid helm]

Health loss is a type of damage

[zenith vault]

It makes your belinda slightly less vulnerbale to DoT

Aka less chance for Athalia to kill I guess

[tepid helm]

It's not dots

Health loss is health loss, dots could be physical or magical, and there plenty of health loss that isn't a dot

[azure sundial]

So what does this swirl mean ?

[tepid helm]

Full means the whole team gets that stat

[azure sundial]

Ok thx

[pallid hamlet]

so not very useful huh?

[tepid helm]

I mean its about as good as any other defensive stat

[late aurora]

So is Liberta ult a form of health loss? Or does it have to be specified in the skill description to be counted as health loss?

[manic lantern]

is there an "optimal" collection to take for the pve run?

[pearl juniper]

not really? it's more setting health than altering health

[tepid helm]

liberta and lorsan link are both health loss

Literally says it is

[fathom kayak]

COLLECT DEEZ NUTS

[late aurora]

I see, I thought I saw health loss on his ult description. So are the only ones that have them in the skill description counted as health loss?

[tepid helm]

pretty much, apart from a few exceptions

[late aurora]

Where did you get that?

[tepid helm]

the sacred texts
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/vsg7pc/afk_arena_beyond_comprehensive_myths_and/

[late aurora]

Oh thank god. I'm over here looking at walls of text in each of the heroes trying to find health loss

So I was right, Liberta ult doesn't crit. That was why eye was underperforming whenever I used it on him in TR

Damn, I put cda on his collection

Also MP

[tranquil dew]

erosion isn't a defensive stat tho

[tepid helm]

we were talking about buffer

[compact bluff]

Good morning, I had never done an artist before, is there somewhere that explains how and what is the best thing to do?

[quiet vine]

done with this for now, good luck all

[quiet vine]

check this out ^

[tranquil dew]

guide should mention +1 skills

[quiet vine]

I included it in a comment, too much for this short guide imo. because then you have to talk about +2 skills, and skill level up totems

[viral basalt]

Rune rng fucking sucks

[fathom kayak]

wow there're reactions here

[vague sun]

Ill test this to Liberta

[honest zephyr]

Why erosion?

[tepid helm]

Because his link is health loss

[stray holly]

How are people putting collections in cursed realm?
I don’t see a tab for it

[jade gull]

u equip it as regular arti in hero page

[stray holly]

Ah it just doesn’t show when you click artifacts. Weird

[spare warren]

Guys, are these stats good? Idk what I'm doing

Oh, I'm not actually using this on liberta but on Ivan

[strange tendon]

This feature is a massive time sink that makes the copy formations buttons worthless. Despite the many other flaws people have pointed out. It’s not AFK friendly and makes the QoL of copy formation worthless. I don’t want to spend more than a total of 5 minutes a day in this game. Needs to have a auto complete button that requires zero time from me.

[spare warren]

guys what stats should I go for for liberta? I went with the flight collection

[blissful sentinel]

He wants Rowans if you can get skillups

[spare warren]

should I keep using this on him then?

can the flight collection suits supports like astar and maybe nevy?

[blissful sentinel]

It's still good on him especially when you don't have skill ups, but it's best for front like supports like JoA

[late aurora]

It's kinda bad on joan unless she's on an invade team. Cause the cart only drops 6 seconds in, by that time she's on the enemy side.

[spare warren]

maybe they meant the flight one

who can I use the flight collection on?

[late aurora]

Yeah the tasi one seems good on her, cause it'll guarantee she can reach the enemy side without dying

[spare warren]

can I use it on astar?

[late aurora]

Idk, basically the way I see it is tasi arti for units that have a hard time living before ulting while the rowan one seems good for those who can survive.

[spare warren]

ok ty

for the tank artifact, are people using the time stopping one?

[late aurora]

It's the same scenario, time stop one for those who have trouble surviving like grez while the other is better for those who can survive more than 8 seconds cause that's when the effect happens.

[frigid spindle]

How do/should I choose etching for the collection?

Whenever I look up etching it comes up with engravings

[gaunt obsidian]

why the chinese guide suggest bondage on ashem? isnt watch +2 best?

[blissful sentinel]

Bondage is better dps

[gaunt obsidian]

heh but ashem dmg is scaled by her max hp%

so bondage +1/+2 is useless for ashem

[finite hemlock]

Are the mage ones worth using over the mage +300 energy at start artifact? For heroes like abel or maetria or even scarlett

[sweet folio]

Yes bc the old arti don't apply anywhere that matters

Might be worse in campaign tho

[spare warren]

Which collection can I use on trish?

[spare warren]

Does this guide have all the heroes?

[gaunt obsidian]

nah only those thus far

[spare warren]

Should I use Oden or mehira collection on trish?

[finite hemlock]

wym? the sooner abel or maetria get their ult can mean whether one of the supports of the other team stays alive the rest of the game or not, in pvp i mean

[cosmic heart]

anyone get a mythic plus hexagon yet? how much stronger are they than just mythic ones?

[soft hollow]

m+ is 1.2x mythic

[velvet terrace]

what stats for colletions would i want for awakened shemira?

and i would choose the spell bondage one right

[spare warren]

Idk, for me I went with this

Bandage is good

[velvet terrace]

its the only one i have unlocked anyways for tanks lol

i just got her and shes boosting me through chapter 13 rn

[spare warren]

really? you should get all for free at 1st clearance

[slender wadi]

its not

its like 1.2x

[velvet terrace]

yeah but the stats are kinda bad on the free ones

so im doing one rn and trying to get good stats

these r the ones ive made so far

[spare warren]

oh nice

[soft hollow]

o mb

[spare warren]

wish i had that luck

[velvet terrace]

first one is for daimon second for scarlet third for ivan

[spare warren]

how do you get the skill+1?

[rare turtle]

This suck

[velvet terrace]

i got lucky and got a legendary one that gave it to you garunteed at the end

[rare turtle]

The rng suck

[velvet terrace]

so i used it

[spare warren]

odic, do you know which collection i should use on trish?

[velvet terrace]

idk who that is

im like a completely new player lol

1 week in

[spare warren]

wilder woman that attack with feathers

[velvet terrace]

i think the one that does aoe damage

the charm doesnt make sense idk she seems like she does dps rightj

so just slap more damage on her

[feral trench]

Is the only current place for arcane staff the daily meager 3 from the shop and then.. like a couple 3x during the months mystic starzone is active? It feels like... Not enough at all for how bad the rng is

[soft hollow]

and running it up to 100 times

[feral trench]

I guess you can still get the 7 runs a week even if you're running them naked?

So you could still have a really good run without any of those cards at all maybe?

[velvet terrace]

i mean i use the blue cards

im doing a run rn ill show u waht im getting

does daimon do physical or magic damage

[feral trench]

But you'll run out of those. Unless you're getting 21 arcane staff a week you will run out of those cards

And they want 1k diamonds for 3 of them. 1k diamonds a run is rough

[velvet terrace]

ill try my next run without any cards and compare my current with full blues compared to one without blues

[feral trench]

One of the blues I know only increases drop odds for 3%. Maybe you don't need the arcane staff at all if you're scrounging.. can still get monster luck on heroes and ascensions and stats I guess?

Cause you don't need more, necessarily? Just the specific stats that class wants?

[velvet terrace]

i mean yeah prob

idk why i always end up getting lucky on either floor 9 or 10

yeah really lucky wtf

youll see how

ok im doing one without cards now

[feral trench]

Looks pretty good for no arcane staff... Okay... Maybe the mode isnt the worst. You could def do worse than that with cards

[velvet terrace]

thats with all 3 blues

[bold turtle]

totems are overrated

[spare warren]

I tried to get a collection for trish, this is the result

[vague sun]

Tamrus or Rem ?

[jade gull]

if u get another dancer u can pick which one for tam which one for rem. better one for rem prob

[vague sun]

I got one for Rem with skill lvl up

[jade gull]

this one also looks like it had +1 skill. or do u have +2 for the one on rem?

[vague sun]

This one is on Rem

[jade gull]

yeah that can go on tam

[tulip yarrow]

Got lucky with good leg totems and on the run itself

[frank edge]

Ashem MP

[jade gull]

[compact bluff]

thankss

[strong agate]

all the defense

[feral trench]

So is it called ghoulish because it's so hard to get a single decent carry ascended? I've only had luck with Frampton, morrow, and antandra

They said here's 5 supports, good luck, have fun. You're having fun, right?

Seems like the hero pool is severely lacking. Keep seeing the same 8 heroes

Like game knowledge doesn't matter, there's no way to play this better

[slender wadi]

probably could have made better decisions

like you picked wilder buff with 2 wilders in your opol

pool is pretty big, if you ever choose a new hero over an upgrade then that was also a mistake

[feral trench]

Wilder buff was my first card and j had tasi lyca serius. The only other options were like a celestial card or some other thing and I only had flora.

Not sure what better decisions there are to make when you can't ascend a carry because rng just says no.

Luckily it was just blues but imagine you use your best cards and you just can't do anything because rng says no. There isnt a way to outplay bad rng here

[slender wadi]

i haven't dropped a single fight in 24 runs across 3 accounts. that's a big enough sample size for me to conclude that over the pool i experienced most of the broad range of variance in hero drops. about a third of those runs were extremely scuffed. i'm not saying you'll never lose fights, but i am saying that losing before floor 10 means that you made bad decisions here and there. this mode has definite skill expression

[tidal pendant]

sometimes you just get shit luck

I've had runs where I had 15 heroes before getting anyone to A

and that's with focusing upgrades whenever offered

[candid burrow]

traditionally bad or underperforming heroes can carry in this mode, but yeah sometimes you can get bad rng and not be offered enough upgrades and be spread too thin

[feral trench]

Im glad for you that you're having great luck. But don't project and then use that good luck to just assume that everyone could have done better 👍🏻

[candid burrow]

i ultimately lost the run on the last floor, but I had one run where tasi was my highest ascension because she was the only one getting offered

[feral trench]

Yeah, it looks like the best carries on offer are "tower heroes"

Morrow, antandra, stuff like that. It seems like there's a ton of heroes that just aren't in this mode. I feel like we're seeing offers from a list of like maybe 30 heroes tops, being generous

Kinda pitiful seeing as how many heroes exist

[tidal pendant]

Just off memory it's like 6-7 heroes of each faction

maybe more of the 4F factions

[feral trench]

Yeah.. so much stuff has to just go right

[tidal pendant]

nah

if you just focus upgrading heroes and decent buffs/faction synergy you still win way more than you lose

but you do sometimes lose with no control over it

[feral trench]

Aside from hero, hero ascension, and buff card luck, those are just to finish a round.. the end goal is also just huge rng.. hope you get the right stats at the right tiers

[tidal pendant]

oh yeah the actual RNG of getting a good artifact at the end is still mostly out of your hands

[slender wadi]

antandra is bad. morrow is fine filler but not an lb signal. sonja is the best lb by a lot. lb without sonja is unplayable. eluard is solid in the mid levels but lacks endgame solo carry potential

[feral trench]

Swipe your credit card and cross your fingers that you get reds and yellows

And not just get them, but get specifically the ones you need

[candid burrow]

thats true, but its also intended to be a long term goal. and its not really too hard to get decent stats on artifacts. if youre going for "bis" or high rolling artifacts is gonna take a lot longer

[feral trench]

Antandra is an old school hyper carry. She's Lucretia-lite

And she's 1 of like 4 real carries you can even get at all

[tidal pendant]

stats aren't nearly as meaningful as +1/+2 skill on most artifacts

[feral trench]

30960 antandra wrecks

[tidal pendant]

and that's just way too RNG without whaling totems

[candid burrow]

sure, i dont disagree. i dont think ive even seen a +1 skill yet

other than the one for free

[feral trench]

I did manage to get a +1 skill on my warrior damage artifact at least

[tidal pendant]

I've done 20 runs, three of them using double chance of +1 skill, most of them beating floor 10

never seen it

[jade gull]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137640870426984468/1149062391200501800/eff608500fb30f24ce2734c88d95d143ac4b0339.gif

rng and luck is never on my side

[candid burrow]

i think ive seen one +1 in my guild so far

though not everyone posts all their stuff. but still

[jade gull]

i dont wanna do a run but i should prob to c for myself...i feel lazy...

[inner rivet]

how valuable is a defensive stat like buffer? not sure i've ever heard of it, wondering if i'd rather just take a lower tier full heal instead

[tidal pendant]

"full heal" is actually full HP, it's mistranslated

Buffer is mostly just a pvp stat for now

but them adding it as a stat likely means they're going to make it more relevant in the future

[inner rivet]

i see. i seem to have rolled some really juicy stats (i may be wrong) so i'd like to make sure i don't pick wrongly here

wondering if this is a is, cda, atk, or fullatk pick for the last slot

[tidal pendant]

I wouldn't take blues

if it's a support artifact I'd probably do IS

if it's other class then probably CDA

[inner rivet]

this is the mage energy loss one

[strong ginkgo]

wanna see a +2 ?

[candid burrow]

yes

[candid burrow]

[strong ginkgo]

[compact bluff]

Does this level up skill increase the artists' stars?

[strong ginkgo]

huh what artists stars

+1 collection skill

[tidal pendant]

wanna see it again?

[candid burrow]

[candid burrow]

yes

that guy shouldve played the lottery instead

[acoustic ether]

Is there a collection that I want to take every time or are they all balanced?

[tidal pendant]

they're locked to specific classes

[strong ginkgo]

take big PP collection

[tidal pendant]

each class has two choices, some classes have one that's generally better than the other

[acoustic ether]

It seems like rng to me

[strong ginkgo]

its not seems like.. it is

[tidal pendant]

e.g. Might has one artifact that's mostly only good for pvp

everywhere else you'll want to use the other one

[strong ginkgo]

Perp artifuck guide when

[tidal pendant]

that's best you'll get

I don't make guides I just give the information for you to make your own decision

[strong ginkgo]

thats no guide.. thats.. Perp's artifucks skill compendium

[candid burrow]

didnt cero make one

[strong ginkgo]

ahh free yourself of the liability of bad decisions

[candid burrow]

[tidal pendant]

[strong ginkgo]

like PP on a supp

[strong ginkgo]

this ?

[candid burrow]

yes

wait, where is the roxsta guide

[proper sandal]

Can u get energy recovery rate on the mage artifacts?

[tidal pendant]

you can only get energy recovery rate with totems, it doesn't normally drop

[proper sandal]

greaaat thanks

[tidal pendant]

there's a legendary totem that gives it specifically, and you can also get it from the totems that give a random stat every third floor or whatever

[strong ginkgo]

its only 2 words...

[tidal pendant]

let me guess

[strong ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/leeroy-jenkins-leeroy-jenkins-king-minion-king-gif-20296169

[strong ginkgo]

dont make me poke you with my big PP sorc artifuck

[regal drum]

are these collections even better then artifacts? I am having my doubts.

[sweet folio]

yes, because they can be used in the modes that matter (CR, NC, TS), unlike artifacts

in TR/campaign, it's debateable but those modes barely matter

[regal drum]

ow then I should stack my whole TS lineup with collections

[sweet folio]

yep.

[dusk fossil]

what happens if the attempts in ghoulish gallery are not used this week?

[candid burrow]

if i recall, it refreshes back to 7 and you lose the ones you didnt use

[dusk fossil]

is there a comprehensive guide about which stats to aim and what totems to use? its really confusing and tbh overwhelming.

[crystal arrow]

@stable socket @jovial jackal both of you guys, your tag of @luna did not work, don't forget to fix it for the submission to go through 🙏

[jovial jackal]

how to fix?

[crystal arrow]

Edit your post and add the @onyx scaffold

[jovial jackal]

@ luna.li doesnt work

ok lol. ty

[crystal arrow]

It should recommend the right one as you're typing it aha

[jovial jackal]

well doesnt for me, but fixed

[jovial jackal]

actually if u could check it still doesnt worj

[rapid orbit]

Thats not the right tag lol

[crystal arrow]

Ah, yeah my bad lol, but I see it's not working still for them

[stable socket]

@candid burrow My post on the thread was deleted

It probably got Gaius’d

[candid burrow]

the tag isnt really important fyi, it was just a leftover before we made the thread

its still collected if you cant get the tag to work

[crystal arrow]

Oh okay good to know Zappy

[jovial jackal]

is it luna the cat pfp or the lunalu person?

[crystal arrow]

Cat pfp, but looks like despite the post it's not necessary, so that's good to know

[jovial jackal]

is everyone tagging wrong luna

ok ill just put a luna.li for effirt

[candid burrow]

luna.li has a cat pfp

[crystal arrow]

Rip 😞

[stable socket]

Bots are against me

[slender wadi]

nice gaius dodge

i wonder if their bot will pick up images

[slender wadi]

u wrote final descent. do u mean farewell gift

[woven river]

Unpopular Opinion: My Pokemon collection is worth more than AFK Arena's collection and I don't have any pokemon cards so ha

[stable socket]

That one is also great! I was writing fast lol.

Hard to proofread on cellphone

[frank edge]

@slender wadi good enough for lib or keep trying

Not sure

[tepid helm]

only 1 mythic? pfft

[frank edge]

I used all my luck

I'll keep trying

[slender wadi]

i would just take it

i mean how many sust collections have you already farmed at this point:

if you have enough for all the dps sust heroes

then just move on to a different class

[frank edge]

4 attempts remaining

Did 1 eye and 2 zol and 1 bandage and now 1 wings

[near seal]

Ngl I didn't realize the artifact thingys reset after each try

I ran through the whole thing with the gold bag artifact

[slender wadi]

what?

[stable palm]

Wtf should I even pick, I can't even choose half of it

[jade gull]

The vault and oculus ones r pretty safe general options rn. Assuming u got supports and mages in ur roster

[slender wadi]

kind of wild to have a mehira and yet no saurus or tasi

[jade gull]

I’m thinking rando single copy?

[stable palm]

I'm a new player, Guide said gaze for twins and mehira first. I got Lucky and got both of them. Saurus and Tasi ain't recommended anymore

[jade gull]

When u do ur runs avoiding using any totems outside the blue ones

[stable palm]

What do I do with purple and gold? Should I save it until I can get the other collections?

[sweet folio]

Save until you learn the mode well and know what you're doing. And for more abilities to come that may be more op

[vale yarrow]

you wanna see mine?
u lucky

[jade gull]

[topaz yacht]

What do you think guys?

[slender wadi]

good

[topaz yacht]

And can someone explain me please how I can unlock this 2nd bonus?

[slender wadi]

skill +1 is a random mythic stat

you get it the same way you get any other mythic stat

via rng

there are totems which increase your rng chance and also a totem that guarantees a +1 skill up stat at the end of your run

[topaz yacht]

Oh damn, I got it now, so as far as I understand I won’t be able to get this artifact to 2nd ability? Only if make it from 0?

[jade gull]

its rng u wait on ur luck

[topaz yacht]

Yeah, but I mean am I able to get this artifact to 2nd star without losing stats?

Or only start from 0?

[shrewd notch]

did Lilith give more run attempt?
now i have 18 collections + 1 run left, i should only have 17 till next week right?

[wise hill]

I'm a little lost here

[scarlet remnant]

I see, thanks for your information

[wise hill]

I just came back after a 3 day break into whatever the hell this is

[void root]

Which Collection should i do +2 ?

[jovial jackal]

spell bondage if using daimon and grezhul

[void root]

i mean whats the best +2 skill compared to the heros who use it

[jovial jackal]

no matter how I look at it

that question doesnt look like first one

[void root]

[wise hill]

thoughts? It's Collection for Wafiya

[sour rose]

How do you swap ?

[strong ginkgo]

you dont. you cry and go do another run

[sour rose]

Are these collection better than current artifacts ? I’m so confuse 🤣

[strong ginkgo]

depends on the stats, skill lvl etc etc

[sour rose]

What’s better for Abel ?

[strong ginkgo]

according to taytay, 2 is better than 1. so left

[urban pier]

what stats & artifact should i aim for Abrutus & rem?

[junior ingot]

What would be the best collection stats for Rem?

[steel smelt]

Any source with all the skills on all collections?

[ruby basin]

It is better probability if i choose the gold totem right?

[ruby basin]

Choose 3 gold totem better?

[jovial jackal]

U shld read skills carefully and save gold ones

[ruby basin]

Noted bro thanks

[fathom kayak]

WHERE ARE THE GUIDES IT'S BEEN 2 DAYS

[pearl juniper]

follow these heroes, just do their best stats

you'll figure it out

[fathom kayak]

is there one that says which collection to use on which hero?

[cinder arrow]

It gives a general direction in the table on the right.

[forest totem]

It's in Nihi

[cinder arrow]

Also this one

[fathom kayak]

im compiling public guides

[fathom kayak]

oh im blind

[warm vessel]

Yay first +1 without totems

[sour turtle]

We can finally give Athalia her armor!

[pearl juniper]

^

any advice on what to run for Dae?

got 2 atk, 2 def, 1 wild

I wanna do IS and PRF cos haha shiny yellow but maybe CDA is better than PRF?

[sweet folio]

I don't know if stats rlly matter on dae

[pearl juniper]

and Diss might not be better than TY

[pearl juniper]

oh so go nuts?

[wind blade]

wth

This looks like Copium

[pearl juniper]

that's very....defensive

[wind blade]

From free rewards

[pearl juniper]

gyat

[jolly elm]

This is what ive got for jerome and oden respectively, not sure which is better on oden

[zealous forge]

Should I change full heal? For Emilia or scarlet

[sand depot]

Any guidance for this new thing? 🤣 I'm pretty clueless. I used the staffs to draw totems... but that's as far as I got.

[soft hollow]

i'd consider full heal for IS but idk, wait for a pro ig

[zealous forge]

Well, it's like this in the end. Hope is good

[soft hollow]

oh you didn't mean change as in swap upgrade

nvm

[zealous forge]

Sorry

[lost sinew]

Wow, I lost a run

[zealous forge]

And you lost all abilities?

[lost sinew]

No, I failed and lost on floor 10 lmao

Missed a few more relics lol

[zealous forge]

But still good

[timber shuttle]

This is unholy amounts of erosion for Liberta

[lost sinew]

It is a lot indeed

[torpid trellis]

Need help deciding what collection to grind for scarlet, captive or oculus?

I mostly want captive purely for the minion to give scarlet some self sustain in battle, but the oculus seems great if I want to focus on more burst. And due to her ult spam she will quickly stack marks to erase energy

And another thing, how does the minion work? Is it invincible or it can take dmg?

[topaz yacht]

Hey, may I ask, how you swap effects?

[pearl juniper]

@trim eagle basically just follow this

[trim eagle]

Nicee. So I want to get the 2 skill ups for Rem

Any tips for first run or can I just go blind?

[sweet folio]

Only use blue totems for now, the others are too rare

[pearl juniper]

I've gotten double yellow twice

[trim eagle]

By that you mean totems are one time use?

[pearl juniper]

they are yeah

that's why u get so many

[trim eagle]

Gotcha

O wait preferred lvl goes up to 3

So I actually only want 1 skill up for Dancer relic

[sweet folio]

you don't get that many btw

we're getting a lot at the start but once that dries up you will be poor

unless you buy rods for diamonds, which I think is sus

[pearl juniper]

buy 1 a day 🔥

I like those thick rods

[trim eagle]

sus

[inner rivet]

presumably rods for diamonds is even more sus if f2p?

[sweet folio]

some ppl think it's worth, I think it's garbage

[trim eagle]

Before I go can I get a confirm that I only need one skill up for Dancer relic?

[pearl juniper]

where else will the rods come from when the fresh buzz is over?

like will they be in events and stuff?

[sweet folio]

Yeah probably. They said they will add it to mystic star zone for exakple

[trim eagle]

Guys

[feral trench]

Misty valley rewards ch42-47 if we've been good this year

Foreseeing some new items in rift, dream shop, maybe guild store?

[sweet folio]

I hope no mv reward cause I don't want to push campaign

[pearl juniper]

campaign can shove it

[feral trench]

At this point don't u have enough power and heroes to just let it autoplay

[pearl juniper]

ch61 is still 5 teams right?

[sweet folio]

Nah multis are still hard enough to require some switching around

[pearl juniper]

if it's any more I'm quitting

[sweet folio]

Always 5

[pearl juniper]

that makes things so much nicer

since u need 7 for other modes

campaign can just be collateral

[sweet folio]

Campaign is nearly useless to push, thank god

After ch42 basically just the end of chapter rewards matter

[feral trench]

It's kinda nice for the diamonds and end of chapter stargazer cards for us poors

[pearl juniper]

is there any ARs that go past that?

[sweet folio]

Don't think so

[pearl juniper]

so yeah basically not worth it

aside from maybe gold/XP increases

[feral trench]

It looks like afk beast food yield increases at least through the continent I'm on through like 42. Surely it keeps on increasing?

Oh that's another place. Could trickle arcane staff in afk rewards like they do with emblems, gear upgrades, beast food. Feels likely enough

[sweet folio]

No bait doesn't increase more

And even up to 42 it's miniscule increases

[grizzled grotto]

Other than Collec breaking copies, multies are usually easier than singles

[pearl juniper]

I've never had problems with singles in campaign

altho in tower....

pcap is brutal

[sweet folio]

Collections pushed me like 20 stages

[wise hill]

You don't, that's 2 different collections of the same type

[indigo sequoia]

Comparing a lvl 9 collection against lvl 10, the base collection stats seem only marginally worse…. Anything I’m missing, or are lower collections not inherently bad and it’s all just about the etchings we get?

[median pier]

uh i don't get it, there's only one slot, so is the other one just wasted cause i didn't get something?

i can just ignore the other one since i can't use it right?

[zenith vault]

You can use both

[median pier]

?

[zenith vault]

+2 skil llevel is usually the best

You can get a 3rd level

[median pier]

i don't see how that's possible if run already finished

[zenith vault]

Ahh

[median pier]

all the other slots don't let me put it in

[zenith vault]

You should have one on the bottom that you can put anything in

[median pier]

i assume you have to combine +1's into a +2?

yeah but can only use one

[zenith vault]

And then 1 on the top ATK slots

[median pier]

so i'm guessing you have to combine +1's into a +2 or something, cause i don't see how else to get +2

[zenith vault]

Not sure but I've seen level 3's before

[sweet folio]

There's a totem that gives you an extra slot to put the other +1 in

[median pier]

yeah i think i finally found it

rip

[sweet folio]

Then you use farewell gift and pray for a +1 in the run

Enjoy using 2 legendary totems just for a chance to +2

[median pier]

yeah no saving that headache for a month later

[sweet folio]

Yeah I'm saving for more abilities

Prob will be op af

[slender wadi]

You can't use both without miracle worker

[stable fossil]

oof

pain

[median pier]

yeah joux answered

[trim eagle]

Rng in this mode is huge. I can burn all my attempts just rolling a relic for one hero

[median pier]

rng is insane

use all purples get nothing

use all blues, randomly like 4+ reds

[stable fossil]

yeah it sucks, rng should even out over time if you use totems optimally though

[median pier]

obviously krakens affording better totems will still end up with better ones, but even using all best ones they'll get shit runs

[rare turtle]

[median pier]

gimme

[zenith vault]

I need it

[rare turtle]

No

[zenith vault]

Maxed mulan?

How maxed is maxed?

[trim eagle]

Terrifying for f2p, even wider gap in pvp

[rare turtle]

Very good

[zenith vault]

I need numbers

[bold turtle]

How would you compete in pvp either way

[slender wadi]

Including +2 full mythic+ stats collection

[zenith vault]

It's not that bad I've been f2p for a while and keep up pretty well

[median pier]

pvp always sucked so whatever

i'm more worried about things like AE/HF lol

you won't even be able to run the same teams maybe

[zenith vault]

I mean HF should be fine

Abex is going to be hell

[median pier]

you might have to find completely different set of teams

[rare turtle]

[zenith vault]

I hope they wont allow it in abex but then again whale guilds are kinda the reason we don't have ads in the game

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[median pier]

but EVERYONE will have different collections so

[median pier]

support already said it will be for this next one

[zenith vault]

I know

[median pier]

so again, there was no point for beta lol

as usual

[zenith vault]

Yup

Well

Rewards

I'll take the goodies

[median pier]

yeah but like, the whole point of beta is to test new systems

[zenith vault]

But yeah if you can get a +2 collection with like +30 CDA you AE dmg will improve a bunch

[median pier]

arguably testing this new thing is way more important than testing new heroes

[zenith vault]

^^

I agree don't get me wrong

[topaz yacht]

I got it, thanks

[median pier]

we have no idea how it's gonna interact with AE relics and also change teams now

[zenith vault]

Well maybe

I think the general stuff will stay the same

[median pier]

is it addictive? multiplicative?

do they work on bosses? how do they work on bosses?

[zenith vault]

So they should work on bosses as it adds stats

I know ATK adds % from what I believe other buffs like SI / Furn / engraving too

And CDA adds a flat 15 on top of your current

[trim eagle]

What does preferred level mean in the guide?

[zenith vault]

It's about the skill level

[trim eagle]

And if it says lvl 3?

I thought it's only Base and then +1 level

[soft hollow]

+2, you need miracle worker totem to have a chance

[rare turtle]

Base collection is lvl 1, than you get the skill lvl up totem, you can go to lvl 3

I think

[trim eagle]

Gotchaa. What's the point of lvl 3 if only lvl 2 has skill unlock? For stats I assume?

[jade gull]

base is counted lvl 1

i...didnt even get the chance to go back and edit it

[trim eagle]

Oh hey you translated it. Thank you

[jade gull]

[fathom kayak]

Holy pog

[rare turtle]

[jade gull]

[trim eagle]

Whose relic?

[fathom kayak]

Liberta

[trim eagle]

So Erosion is bis for Lib 😮

[jade gull]

lib's link has life loss if i remember right

[rare turtle]

Yeah

[fathom kayak]

if i have 5 support heroes can i use 5 Tasi collections

[rare turtle]

I saw clears with 2-3 heroes with the same collec. So maybe.

[fathom kayak]

probably yes then

[blissful sentinel]

Shem stats?

[soft hollow]

hp, f. atk or mp probably

[lost sinew]

Fuck

This shouldn’t hapoen

[trim eagle]

Pretty sad getting PP stats for Int hero

[lost sinew]

Twice in a row

[trim eagle]

[rare turtle]

unlucky

[lost sinew]

The collection turnout great

[lost sinew]

Even with bad luck. I only had 3 ascended heroes in that run at the end

[rare turtle]

[lost sinew]

Blue totem saved it

[rare turtle]

Very nice

[lost sinew]

This was my first attempt

Not as good haha

[rare turtle]

Still better than mines without any mythic Stat

[wise hill]

I got an even better one for Wafiya

[lost sinew]

Can it beat this?

[wise hill]

Diss was kinda disappinting though

[rare turtle]

Wtf

[lost sinew]

Blue totems are OP as fuck

Both blue totems gave me a mythic

[wise hill]

that ugly ass def

[rare turtle]

Blue totems give me shit

[lost sinew]

Def is meaningless

Having the right offense is more important

[wise hill]

and one of your mythic stats is Def

[lost sinew]

Then when min/maxing you will end up with good defense

[wise hill]

I got red Erosion for Wafiya; I think I'm happy with hers now until I get some more cards

Might do Naroko collection next

[rare turtle]

47 erosion

[lost sinew]

On my berta

[rare turtle]

Of course

[blazing pendant]

When it comes to etching. If I don't have all the abilities that I want... Do I leave them until I have em? Or can they be replaced later on?

Like if I etch a green thing that's not what's preferred can it be replaced with a different next round?

[tepid helm]

when you etch its permanent. pretty sure it says that on the etching screen

[blazing pendant]

Yeah I tried to understand that but it also said something about the next round.

Which cause me a lot of confusion

[tepid helm]

[blazing pendant]

So I wanna etch only yellows?

[tepid helm]

you wanna etch the best stats you have

[blazing pendant]

Sorry for the spam but let me picture what I intended. I wanna get the dancer for my Rem. So I did all the floors but I was not observant enough to look into what abilities I should have gone for.

What I would have wanted:
Atk: PP,Atk,Crit
Def: CDR,TY,F.HP,F.DEF

If I don't have all those did I screw this up?

[candid burrow]

each item you make is unique and you can make multiple of the same one

you can only take what is offered to you. if you dont get PP offered to you, there is no mistake to make

[blazing pendant]

Aaah thanks

So I make what I can and can get a better one next try

[candid burrow]

yes

[exotic lotus]

man i hate this mode a lot

it's takes too long

[tepid helm]

I wouldn't say I hate it, but it definitely takes too long

[tepid helm]

I got all my runs on one account done and now it's time for the other

[jade gull]

yea

[rare turtle]

Need more than 7 runs a week

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857329415330725906/1034158501192286238/991702010514636881.gif

[proper sandal]

What’s erosion? I don’t understand who actually benefits from increased DoT

[jade gull]

erosion good for heroes will health loss skill

[tepid helm]

its not dot

[fervent bluff]

guys, devs

it's like I'm learning how to play a whole different game with this update

can u please spoon feed us instead of info dumping this entire new game mode onto us old, frail players

you've had months to prep this gamemode and I feel like I've only had a day of prep

ya'all be stressing me out when I just want to sit back, relax, and play a game

[tepid helm]

nobody is forcing you to do anything more than sitting back relaxing and playing a game

[fervent bluff]

keep supporting abuse

[tepid helm]

[harsh heart]

i hate when lilith abuses me by giving me new game modes and more resources to help me advance in the game 😭😭😭

[tepid helm]

I hate it when a new mechanic requires the tiniest bit of brain power to understand
Lilith abuse is unreal

[fervent bluff]

I hate when lilith drives the gap between ftp and whales even further 😄 nice of u to get ur little minions to back u up

[jade gull]

i just want a sweep mode and gonna wait on guides and preferably make everything cheaper

[tepid helm]

this is like the least whale favored powercreep

you dont get more runs (I don't think?), just more totem summons

[jade gull]

u do. they get 10 we get 7

[tepid helm]

[jade gull]

but yeah it doesnt favor p2p by a lot. the rng is a huge factor so

rng kills all players equally. hurts more when u pay and get shit rng ig

[candid burrow]

mostly they get more totems

[jade gull]

yeah a lot more totems

[viral basalt]

AYO

U pack of diabetic sandwiches

[final crypt]

the cards are huge tho, like one of them guarantees a M every run (skill up). Other ones are the only way to get M+ stats (which i assume are significantly better than L and M stats. M stats are already almost 3 times better then L).

[tepid helm]

Doesn't compare to having lv 18 pets while others are at level 9 though

[sweet folio]

I've never heard this insult before

[fathom kayak]

ZAP ZAP ZAP ZAP ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

[jade gull]

I have no clue what it means ngl took me a few to realize its supposed to be to be an insult

[viral basalt]

Ofc it's an insult

U wild sausages

[jade gull]

This is an insult too?

[fervent bluff]

Theory: Lilith is actively trying to make their players quit so that they can retire early and enjoy their loot.

[jade gull]

[fervent bluff]

Just like in Dislyte:D where they made their pro content creator quit

I see an Engraving Part 2 level of quitting in the future

[feral trench]

Am I like, in trouble, or something?

[jade gull]

its rng. u just kinda live with it. besides u got it from using blue totems. not too bad

[lost sinew]

How this happens?

Also don’t use the 3% blue

Imo either save if lilith buff it or merge it to fish for purple skill up

[rare turtle]

Why purple skill up when you can get yellow one

[jade gull]

[rare turtle]

[jade gull]

everytime i c it its gonna get

cause i dont have one yet

[rare turtle]

Sure

[jade gull]

[rare turtle]

Next time I get it I'll ping ya

[jade gull]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137640870426984468/1151738215670231100/Ft0R0LJC_UOrDvo5izoKafpYi5Bs.gif_copy.gif

[rare turtle]

[lost sinew]

You wanna use both

This is horrible

The stats are actually not too bad

[rare turtle]

I have two yellow

[lost sinew]

You can’t use 2 yellow skill up at the same time

[rare turtle]

I think I'll hold them before switch region

[lost sinew]

Nice, only had green

[lost sinew]

I hold to them too

[tulip venture]

anyone have any idea how I should be building my stuff

[jade gull]

check cero's priority and collection recommendation if u wanna start somewhere

[tulip venture]

Reddit?

[jade gull]

yeah cero posted it in reddit yeah

[timber tapir]

Thoughts on this for pvp in abelinda team?

[jade gull]

it doesnt have too much mp so im too worried about overheating. give it a shot. seems OP

[lost sinew]

It’s pretty good

Full def and erosion aren’t too hot but the 2x red attack + dmg resist is very op

I think it’s better to try to go toward useful stats than useless high rank ones

But the difference between yellow and red runes is insane

[jade gull]

gotta find a balance between the two ig~

[tepid helm]

yeah its the biggest jump by far

[timber tapir]

There’s also a huge jump between mythic and mythic +

[tepid helm]

Not really