nightmare-corridor

[compact frost]

thanks

[silent aurora]

hows eugene with si

[copper cliff]

so far it seems his SP is enough

[steady fjord]

Didn't work for me at L+ weirdly, might be other issues with my setup

[gaunt garnet]

why cant i use artifacts now?

it only shows collections

[noble wadi]

you know artifacts dont work in nc right?

[gaunt garnet]

collections do tho

[noble wadi]

then why do you ask

[gaunt garnet]

cuz i didnt remember artis didnt work

also for this guy lorsan is a MUST?

[steady fjord]

Collections basically aren't artifacts

[drifting kayak]

Under 6:30 for the first time

[silent aurora]

gavus is a merc?

@drifting kayak make it more f2p

[noble wadi]

[steady fjord]

[round ice]

oh wow, you activated res 12? why?

[silent aurora]

because he can

[drifting kayak]

Cuz i needed to secure my kills and times … and also is an overall boost in my acc … now i can focus to owl 18

[drifting kayak]

Yes merc

[silent aurora]

so its no longer f2p

[noble wadi]

now its only for krakens

[strong field]

Still remember times when anaste was f2p saviour, how mighty have fallen....

[drifting kayak]

Are u on meds bro ?

[silent aurora]

@drifting kayak no, direfloyd said the same thing

[drifting kayak]

Idk what are you guys talking about

[silent aurora]

you're using too many wokes that what we mean

[arctic parcel]

Trish 203 is enough to use this team?

[drifting kayak]

Well that doesnt mean its not f2p … i use like 4 wokes and 2 L and L+ and i merc one …

[arctic parcel]

[silent aurora]

@arctic parcel show teams

[steady fjord]

They're just stupid, ignore them

[arctic parcel]

I copied the team above

[strong field]

I mean it's obviously sarcasm cuz nobody sane can make an argument that mercing a woke is somehow not f2p.

[steady fjord]

Hat is actually dumb enough to make that argument

[strong field]

Good job and thx for clears, still f2p beacon of hope.

[round ice]

whats ur team for r6?

[drifting kayak]

Here better time without gavus

[steady fjord]

Missing reg Baden to try the r6 comp?

I think reg Baden still works without Trish, just not as well of course

[untold urchin]

He is bad without her tbh

[drifting kayak]

Can a 20360 Trish work ?

[steady fjord]

Probably? I'd still at least grab si30 though
Mine's only 30660 and it's only like 2s slower than 30960 + 18 Moth

Oh this an ss from last week that was slower, I got a 30s one this week which is basically same time as 30960 18 Moth

[drifting kayak]

Wait can lava be replaced ?

[violet hornet]

Lava pretty hard to replace tbh

[steady fjord]

I haven't tested it, I saved more time using Lava here than Arden at least

[drifting kayak]

I dont have Lava damn

[thick nova]

Lava is a dispeller. Can be subbed by Abel and maybe aBrutus, but he's also a huge support, so he's the bis there

Idk if anyone ever tested aBrutus

[noble wadi]

he needs to ult and its too slow i think

[steady fjord]

I forgot Lava had dispel

[spiral rose]

i didn't even know that

all I know is he give haste and ult buffs and energy

[steady fjord]

He buffs atk too

His normals cycle through effects like Palmer and one of them is an atk buff

[spiral rose]

he does it all. what a chad

[thick nova]

30s slower than lava

[abstract scroll]

E lava works

[strong field]

With new r6 tech now half my wokes are unemployed, sad times. Trish merc for r6. Thx @drifting kayak for clears keep up good work.

[teal hill]

can u show colections?

[inner swallow]

Anyone mind helping me choose a Merc for this round?

[round ice]

what is your time without a merc?

[spiral rose]

I'm guessing a better question is what round are you not killing

[inner swallow]

I can kill Maytyr and Canon consistently

[spiral rose]

shame all the good supports are men... down with the patriarchy

[inner swallow]

I feel the best thing would be either Jerome for Arden or Lava for the dragon

[spiral rose]

I bet you can kill r1 with rem, and then maybe merc lavatuna for r5?

[inner swallow]

Don't I need Lib for r1?

[spiral rose]

rem instead of antandra

she is useless

[inner swallow]

Fair; I was just filling in all the blanks I had lmao

[spiral rose]

prob want something instead of kalene but idk what

better to abandon some rounds to move their supports over I think

[strong field]

You are aiming for 4 kills?

[spiral rose]

you're spread out over a bunch of rounds you can't kill cause you need too many men 😄

[inner swallow]

I'm aiming for 3

[spiral rose]

NC is hard to do without a diverse acc so good luck

[inner swallow]

Yeah, that's the problem ain't it; reason I don't bother with CR XD

[spiral rose]

tho I see you're starting to invest in men

with the M+ palmer

[inner swallow]

Only cuz I Finished all the girls up to a points lmao

[spiral rose]

fair lol

[inner swallow]

And have excess fodder

I finally got crassio Mythic for maulers

[strong field]

Merc bert and move naroko or hypo child to r1, with cele buff should get you kill.

[inner swallow]

I got puppet to 50% with that; seems my only heal blocker is spider

[spiral rose]

do you have E mortas?

[noble wadi]

you can try ira r1

[spiral rose]

oh yeah that strat still exists

[inner swallow]

Yeah, in r3

[spiral rose]

need L+ ira tho

yeah mirror is so fucked for you so you should try mortas r1 instead of simona

[inner swallow]

I don't have any spare wilder fodder lmao

[inner swallow]

Fuck yeah, that got me my third kill with a Merc slot still available

So I guess I either Merc for Mirror, Arden, or Dragon

[noble wadi]

merc lava

get E+ baden on rc

ez kill r6

[inner swallow]

I don't think I even have e+ baden

[noble wadi]

E works too

[inner swallow]

I don't even have e baden

[noble wadi]

[cedar forge]

Could I get help here? First formation kills the boss in 48secs but that's it

[noble wadi]

killing with 2 heroes might indeed be hard

[cedar forge]

haha i copied some dudes formation but thats all i got from his

[inner swallow]

why is baden so good on the dragon anyways?

[noble wadi]

who knows

[cedar forge]

Bruh

[cedar forge]

is there any sub for baden here?

[noble wadi]

rem but its slower

[inner swallow]

Is lacking 30 and e60 on Trish gonna be a problem?

[noble wadi]

idk

[cedar forge]

what collection you used on him?

[noble wadi]

on who

[cedar forge]

baden

[noble wadi]

some random one

[cedar forge]

for trishea any sub?

[noble wadi]

idk

you gotta test

[cedar forge]

oh i dont got the pet also

[violet hornet]

Trish kinda necessary with baden on diabolus

[cedar forge]

how much dmg you need for the 4th boss?

Ok got 4 kills

[strong field]

Your 5th team not killing?

[cedar forge]

nope, my scarlet is only 209e0

[strong field]

Not sure if someone tested Belinda kill r5 first time that boss arrived but maybe it could work

[cedar forge]

oh ok i could try

[strong field]

Check screenshots in this channel first

[cedar forge]

nah abel just 3.6b dmg

[strong field]

At least Abel+Rem in r6 should kill so you get 5 kills

[cedar forge]

im using rem for 4th

[compact frost]

Feels like an actual decent time. Welcome back to the meta Baden

[arctic parcel]

Here

[round ice]

Thanks

[drifting kayak]

I hope this can work without lava

[noble wadi]

it cant

[untold urchin]

1 copy of lava works

Just u need him

[drifting kayak]

One copy ! Good thx

[untold urchin]

Worked for me

[drifting kayak]

What time did u get ?

[untold urchin]

Decent I would say

[noble wadi]

nice tree

[untold urchin]

Huh

[drifting kayak]

Ehh i need to finish trish

[untold urchin]

Working on warrior now till 57. Then tank 57

[noble wadi]

how many cele heroes are you using?

[untold urchin]

A lot tbh

[drifting kayak]

Why is sust 67?

Isnt 77 the cap ?

[untold urchin]

I stopped there

Idk just doing my stuff

[drifting kayak]

XD

[drifting kayak]

Btw

Is Abaden works there or just Baden ?

[untold urchin]

Just baden

[drifting kayak]

Hmm

[violet hornet]

He works at e as well

[untold urchin]

aBaden doesn't benefit from trish as much as regular

[drifting kayak]

Imagine spending in a woke and the normal form outdmg him

XD

[untold urchin]

Happens

aBaden in gernal better anyways. Just on Single bosses regular sometimes shines his way

[violet hornet]

I mean, once diabolus disapear, normal baden will go back to the trash can

[untold urchin]

Abex regular Baden can do stuff as well

[drifting kayak]

Well we have a lot of days for this to happen xD

[untold urchin]

But yeah then Baden gone trash

[violet hornet]

I don't do Abex

[drifting kayak]

[violet hornet]

Spectator mode op

[untold urchin]

U supporter?

[violet hornet]

Yes

[round ice]

spectate ftw

[drifting kayak]

Stealer

[violet hornet]

[drifting kayak]

^_^

[untold urchin]

Ahh yeah. I would do the same but all my guild mates got the spots

[violet hornet]

I ain't got time for that

[untold urchin]

[drifting kayak]

I need Fcking red chestssss

[violet hornet]

Mood

[drifting kayak]

To finish trish

[untold urchin]

Imagine not having her day 1 on Release max

[violet hornet]

[drifting kayak]

Trish is trash

In pvp

I needed to built heroes for pvp

[round ice]

are u trying to make t50 consistently?

[untold urchin]

She is good there. U just need a team for her 😉

[drifting kayak]

Its a thought but for now i think i cant achieve that

[round ice]

if you can get t100 consistently, then it'll be worth switching focus to CR/NC

[buoyant meteor]

I just swapped the nc and cr formations when copying clears online...still beat all nc bosses

[untold urchin]

I have the heroes to beat all 6 nc bosses and be close to top 20%. Meanwhile my ts stuff is shit

[drifting kayak]

I am getting t100 consistently after Ashem release but for me to keep up doing this i gotta build more pvp heroes cuz p2w ppl dont stop upgrading

[round ice]

yeah thats true, f2p life is hard.

[drifting kayak]

If i had Asaf i would be good i think

[round ice]

same same. Please give hero swap for annivesary event

[drifting kayak]

Also i am using Ashem in Stall

I need to imrpove that too so i can make a new team with ashem

[inner swallow]

First time getting 4 kills

[strong field]

Well done

[cedar forge]

Wasn't that account supposed to be girls only?

[inner swallow]

Lavatune is a merc

Everyone else is not built; just ascended using extra fodder

[lyric night]

Jan 20th 2024
CN NC guide: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/jQdy9CB_OI27TYZosphRKQ

[modest nymph]

this my version of that, eugene si30 would be hype to finally get back to every comp being sub 1m but it averages like that at least

[slow dust]

Did you pop goat trial?

Ik alot of ppl did , was curious if you did.

[slow dust]

Engine si30 won't help that R5 much from my testings

[modest nymph]

nupe

[slow dust]

If you pop on 22nd for Cr you can use in NC aswell and prob get R5 down a bit

[modest nymph]

mm oke who’s he replace

[noble wadi]

go away with that panda

[slow dust]

Works at 12/15

[modest nymph]

oh lava interesting, but also panda is

[noble wadi]

lava?

[slow dust]

Yea lava

[noble wadi]

dafuq why ur r1 so slow

[modest nymph]

oh wait other hypo man that i’ve been staring at for tower and ae for the past week

[slow dust]

Idk

I'ma ask fararara what I'm doing wrong @lyric night

[noble wadi]

im getting 49s with my cheap shit

[slow dust]

It was 26 sec last week

[noble wadi]

and spooder 9

[lyric night]

lol the same problem as before lol

[slow dust]

What?

[noble wadi]

ah

[lyric night]

hp lol hp

[slow dust]

I forgot

[noble wadi]

wrong link

[slow dust]

Who..

[lyric night]

olgath

[noble wadi]

[slow dust]

To much HP?

[lyric night]

yes

[slow dust]

Ic

[lyric night]

need to be the lowest hp in nc

[slow dust]

Ic

[lyric night]

u needa optimize r1/r2/r4

[slow dust]

Ye

I leave that for erina

[lyric night]

is she still doing ur nc lol

[lyric night]

glad she didnt completely quit at least

[slow dust]

Same

[lyric night]

olgath lowest hp for r1, r2 use tam instead of estrilda, r4 crassio needs to have highest atk iirc

[modest nymph]

do yall pay eachother to play on other peoples accs or something

[lyric night]

i just do gg for friends for free

i dont take bribery

[noble wadi]

gl with the crassio part

[lyric night]

need big collection

[slow dust]

My r2 is optimized btw it was 33 sec now down to 26-29

[lyric night]

or run eorin if u got em 30960 w. a good collection

[modest nymph]

$1 for t100 cr please

[slow dust]

Idk what to for r4 tho ?

[lyric night]

should be 18

[slow dust]

Not with my tree

[lyric night]

i dont do cr

[modest nymph]

$2?

[slow dust]

Or if with my tree I'm bad

[spiral rose]

i thought your cr was good fararararara

[lyric night]

i think someone in nihi have smaller tree got it i thought

[slow dust]

Let me check...

[lyric night]

i barely get through mine cant help others lol

no time

[lyric night]

i can prob give advise based on hits at most for free lol. i do it for any friends who ask

[slow dust]

I see a few but for some reason when I run tam it's v slo

Slow

Nvm..

[modest nymph]

yeh that’s cool of ya, tbh idk why but cr is my best gamemode

[lyric night]

fix ur collection lol

[lyric night]

cr the best~ ur ts isnt bad either lol

[spiral rose]

collections make the game so hell

when certain collections make things worse

[lyric night]

yeah....and figuring it made it worse is another part ugh

[slow dust]

What do I use?

[lyric night]

try running a heal based collection on asol and rosa. tam w. a zol+1

[lyric night]

lorsan w. the basic wings collection (free one)

asol and rosa wants heal. even if its whack collection its fine. just stack it with heal

[noble wadi]

Isnt it because of lorsan 9f?

It broke my time

From 35 to 44ish

[lyric night]

i have lorsan 9f as well

gives me 18s. w. basic mehira (wings) collection

[slow dust]

Which one that?

[lyric night]

its purple wings looking one. not oculus

[lyric night]

yes this one. but a free one

w. blue stats on it

[lyric night]

yes

[slow dust]

He has that one and it still 27 sec

[noble wadi]

8f lorsan vs 9f lorsan the only diff

[lyric night]

do u have heal collection on asol and rosa? heal does the dmg so @slow dust

[slow dust]

I gota find one lol

[lyric night]

synergy broken. i think someone had the same issue in nihi server. veri and I helped to fix it. there should still be history

[slow dust]

I don't have but one coll with heal

It's on sol

[noble wadi]

It was like at one ult she had 20% hp instead of full for some reason

[lyric night]

whats on rosa?

[lyric night]

hmp. asol had less hp after heal?

[slow dust]

I'll one sec

I have shit Colls man

[lyric night]

i run lvl8 collection lol

[slow dust]

Me too

[lyric night]

[slow dust]

I don't think I can get 18 sec

[noble wadi]

Idk i didnt pay much attention, something was very off tho

[lyric night]

gotta grind and fix it.

[slow dust]

Pizza is right

[lyric night]

sweet!

[slow dust]

Wack RNG tho Veri inconsistent

[lyric night]

if anything. just remove lorsan furn and get the clear then test

[lyric night]

if i remember right. quakie tried for this round to work w. smol tree too.

[slow dust]

Well I'm happy with this ty for helping with r1

Forgot Abt hp

[noble wadi]

Wdym

Literally the only difference is that one furn piece on lorsan

[lyric night]

u can go take furn off

like turn it back to 8f or whatever it was

[noble wadi]

Thats what i did lol

[lyric night]

and it worked?

[noble wadi]

Ye

[lyric night]

lol. aight ur gonna have to figure out how to fix it that round w. lorsan 9f. its suppose to drop ur time.

i dont have much ideas except positioning and collection tbh.

[lyric night]

[noble wadi]

Im good with 35s

[lyric night]

[noble wadi]

L asol isnt going any lower

[cursive epoch]

whats your time with 9f

[lyric night]

i dont wanna steal s1x's clear. but s1x uses L asol and get 18s

w. palmer of course

lemme ask if i can share it~

[noble wadi]

And fat tree

[lyric night]

oh right. yeah fat tree

[noble wadi]

Look up

[spiral rose]

old player advantage

[lyric night]

like fatter than mine

[cursive epoch]

i should've checked if 8f imrpvoes my time with palmer

i only took furn off when i was running something else

not gonna spend more dias tho

[steady fjord]

19s

Pretty sure I've posted it here before

I do have 115 more sust lvls than pizza

[digital basalt]

[lyric night]

[sleek sequoia]

@candid quail send nc when you hit pls

[candid quail]

Yessir

Gonna try and fiddle with a 6 kill

[candid quail]

What's min for Skreg in mirror?

Wanna take Emi out of there and use her in r6, so that I can use Alyca in r5

[lyric night]

20300. but 20900 is optimal min iirc

[slim lion]

Ping me

When you send the teams, tysm

[candid quail]

as per usual

[candid quail]

hmm, what's mind for baden in r6?

[abstract scroll]

Minimum for baden? E

[candid quail]

hmm I must need trish for him then

or at least emi, cos he's doing jackshit at A

[lyric night]

og baden min E

[slim lion]

[candid quail]

if I don't get 6 kill then it's just the same teams as last week

already locked in my smol 5, but gonna try alyca for cannon unless watha for cannon and alyca for mirror

just need to get a kill on 6

have to use Raine in martyr to free up a merc, but that ruins r6

[steady fjord]

I tried using Orth on r1 for cele buff and it saved some time

[candid quail]

@sleek sequoia send comps pls, I wanna check smth

[sleek sequoia]

r5 gets really close sometimes but haven’t found a kill yet

[grim dirge]

@sleek sequoia try atheus trial instead of euegen

[sleek sequoia]

im not popping trial until later today but i will

[grim dirge]

[compact frost]

I 9f Tamrus and now I cant kill Light Martyr?

[grim dirge]

Recheck collections

[compact frost]

Theyre the same

Nevanthi can go in instead but Tamrus was a bit faster before

[thick nova]

Do you have anasta? She's good in r5

[modest nymph]

try blade instead of owl?

[sleek sequoia]

still waiting for the 9f so she’ll most likely do nothing

but i’ll try later today

[sleek sequoia]

i’ve tried it does about the same iirc

[thick nova]

Without 9f she doesn't heal the team, iirc, should not be great tbh

[haughty linden]

How do you get arden into order and faith for the quest?

[keen geyser]

You had to fight him during that week

[haughty linden]

maN

[candid quail]

Does Baden need to be E??

He ain't doing jackshit, haven't killed this boss once with the right team

Now we got a kill on Arden, and r6 is still trolling

[compact frost]

Mine's 200e0, no collection

[keen geyser]

Twins link maybe?

If that messes something up

[candid quail]

No coll hmm I'll try that

[compact frost]

It wasnt like a strategic decision Im just not about to use a collection run for normal Baden but maybe it helps. My twins are A also dont know if they die fast for you and that mucks it

[keen geyser]

Nitro can kill it tho with E twins

[compact frost]

yeah just trying to identify differnces

[candid quail]

Only diff between nitro and I is the Baden, mine seems to be overinvested

[keen geyser]

Who getting linked?

[candid quail]

No coll he did more damage

Wdym linked?

[keen geyser]

Twins

[candid quail]

Idk how twins work

[keen geyser]

That might change something

[candid quail]

I just know ult = team haste

[keen geyser]

Who has the line between

Or are you just dying too fast

[candid quail]

The twins are dying at 1:10

Shortly after Morass sucks everyone to him

[keen geyser]

Damn that's pretty early

[candid quail]

They're squishy af yeah

Wtf....

I flipped everyone's order

[keen geyser]

Did twins die?

[keen geyser]

Also r5 .56s left

[candid quail]

Does it look like they died sir?

[compact frost]

gratz

[candid quail]

Never a doubt

[keen geyser]

I'm blind

[compact frost]

damn looking at my own kill as part of this my twins did 1.3b damage. rock on

[candid quail]

@slim lion @sleek sequoia had to borrow nitros comps to get the cannon kill, had no idea what even works on it so ty for that
R6 is a little expensive cos Trish, and I think it's also heavily RNG, this is the only time I was ever able to kill it. Raine is in Martyr so that I can kill it without Palmer, with E Talene, if mercing u can run Nevanthi or someone else in there and still get kill, freeing Raine up for an easier Arden.

Oh and @slow dust, my first 6 kill

[slow dust]

Huge

[sleek sequoia]

thanks g

[slow dust]

Gratz on 6k

[candid quail]

Small cost

Now to rehit CR because I have Trish

Where does she go this round?

[keen geyser]

R4 or r5

[sleek sequoia]

holy

[keen geyser]

Depends on Abel in R4 or r5 probably

[sleek sequoia]

stop overtaking me nem mine is still m20

[candid quail]

I had tons of mats saved sir no whaling happened

[sleek sequoia]

i’m far far behind now nem

you have 2 more e60s than me

[candid quail]

Maybe I was always ahead

It did drain my resources

Now I don't have a spare si30 anymore

[sleek sequoia]

you have another e60 and nearly 2 e30s tho

[candid quail]

Might put atheus on my WL tbh

For furniture, I think 209e30 is his min?

Or is it 309e30

[keen geyser]

Usable 20 probably

[candid quail]

OK very nice

[candid quail]

Will be used on next woke likely

Next cele I probably won't end up getting

At least until I get the woke built

[sleek sequoia]

who do i compare progress with now

[candid quail]

Hey I haven't quite left the same realm as u

[slim lion]

Thanks nem

Congrats on 6 kills

[candid quail]

ty

[sleek sequoia]

got my 6k

[candid quail]

!!

lets gooo

[teal nexus]

geez that guide is shit for f2p, went from 6 kills with whatever I used last time to just 3 kills and being nowhere near killing 2

[steady fjord]

Obviously you still need to do your own tweaks

[teal nexus]

it's beyond fixing at that point i would have been better throwing random units in

besides no time left now

[sleek sequoia]

of course it is it’s a guide with the most optimal, whaley comps to get 6 kills in sub 3 minutes

[teal nexus]

problem is they don't really include any fallbacks

pretty sure they had more fallback options in the past though

[modest nymph]

were you able to try my version that’s right under the guide, athalia was mercd

[strong field]

Gratz on 6 kills, at last 1 more person to compare teams

[teal nexus]

nah, didn't have time

[grim dirge]

Rip

[errant swift]

i got 3:13:floradeadeyes:

[grim dirge]

Damn full min diff

Whats t200 in your region?

[errant swift]

2.49

[candid quail]

Just same as last time

[strong field]

Merc Talene. New Wilder is better in r6 with Baden/Trish, use him in place of Emi.

[modest nymph]

how much time is that talene merc saving you vs someone to get your r4 more functional

[strong field]

1.23 sec with E Talene and Morthas.

I tried Vei, ASaf. Brutus, Crassio merc for r4 but not even once got sub 1 min.

[steady fjord]

Have you tried Palmer on r2 with e Tal, and Dae on r4?

[strong field]

Have not, if palmer is out who is the best merc for mirror?

[steady fjord]

You're not going to get a good time on Mirror regardless, but it might still work without Palmer

Maybe merc Trish to use Baden r6

Or merc smth for r4 and move Dae there

[strong field]

Palmer with E Talene is 50 sec. I tried Trish r6 but still only 6.30sec. All in all i am satisfied with my time. Thx for help

[steady fjord]

I still have 2 rounds faster than draken

[slow dust]

Which ? Prob r6 and r5

[steady fjord]

4 and 6

[slow dust]

What's cannon ?

[steady fjord]

6 is baaaarely faster though, but I only have 12 Moth

[steady fjord]

Naro instead of Gavus, mine's ~20s

[slow dust]

Ah

[steady fjord]

And I don't have Panda 18 or Atheus for r5 which is why mine's slower

[slow dust]

Prob bc tree bc gavus did way better than naronfornmw

[slow dust]

Fair enough I don't think goat is bis tho

[steady fjord]

I think top was using him there, unless it was on r6

[empty bone]

any possible sub for aathalia?

[strong field]

Alyca should do the job, maybe ABel but you need better supports and r6 would be different.

[empty bone]

yea i dont have alyca built either 🤔

yea team 3 is the only one failing atm

[strong field]

Not sure but i think there was some Abel+Rem mirror could try that also

[empty bone]

u guys see any way to improve my third team?
atm it finishes with around 20% total hp remaining (27% and 7%)

im missing alyca and aathalia
altho i did request an aathalia, we'll have to see if i get it

[strong field]

You can try replace RH for JoA and see if you can kill it. Since your Brutus is fully build maybe you can kill r4 w/o JoA. Crassio, queen can work and dont forget pets.

[empty bone]

what should i replace with joa in r4?
or were crassio/queen meant to be replacements for joa in r4

my damage dropped after replacing RH with joa
but my abrutus team is still killing

crassio was actually an improvement over joa in r4

[strong field]

Nice, JoA should be much better in mirror, RH is somehow works for me but i dont think he is doing something magical.

[empty bone]

oh i just realized in the ss i forgot to wait for the pets to load
theyre all using pets

[strong field]

Still no kill mirror even with JoA?

[empty bone]

yea, damage dropped when i subbed in joa

i was hitting 19 bil with eorin+RH

now im hittinf 15bil with eorin+joa

[strong field]

Where is seal and is he lvl 18?

[empty bone]

seal is in r4, hes 18

ill try giving r4 owl and seal to r3

[strong field]

I would try seal in mirror to see if it possible to get kill. White ball can work in r4.

[empty bone]

seal in r3 with RH is more inconsistent but is doing a tiny bit more
hititng 19.5b now, but it swings down to 13b often

[strong field]

Also check who takes Ivan since your Palmer and Silas are big.

[empty bone]

ah right i forgot about that
silas is taking ivan

i need to sub ivan ig

i subbed ivan for lavatune so now i am killing mirror
but my r6 is failing now

[strong field]

Does not sound good

Naroko should help in mirror but r4 would be bad if you dont have decent sub

[untold urchin]

R6 only needs 1 copy of lava to beat

Ah u use the rem abel shit team

Feels sad

Well u only need si20 baden to work but a build Trish if u have

[empty bone]

yea my trish is only si20

[untold urchin]

[empty bone]

shes been on my wishlist for furn since she came out i think
been very unlucky and havent gotten a single furn for her yet

[untold urchin]

[empty bone]

😭

i did end up getting 7 furn for lava just from pulls tho, so ig it balances out
my r3 is hitting almost 23b now with joa + rh (no ivan)

[strong field]

If you have Crassio you can try Naroko in mirror. Or Skreg but he needs 9f

[cedar forge]

For some reason I cant get any dmg in this NC round those past two weeks despite everything being the same. I was killing the boss before but I cant do even 2b of dmg now.

[digital basalt]

wrong talene

[cedar forge]

huh you are right mb

[compact frost]

The big sub 6min, no athalia

[boreal sable]

So, I've killed the first two and am trying to throw something together to get my first ever third kill, and the only boss whom I even potentially have a team for is Raging Cannon - but, I'm missing Ginneas in the front row, so I just threw merlin in and obviously its not working. Does anyone have any idea what unit could fill Ginneas/Merlin spot in the raging cannon team?

Without using units from the first two

[compact frost]

my team doesnt use Ginneas, who are you mercing?

[boreal sable]

I merc'd the Talene for light martyr. The aThane raging cannon team im using is the only thing ive seen that doesnt require daemia, abrutus, or palmer, which are all being used elsewhere (or in the case of abrutus, not built)

Ginneas is the only thing im missing from the aThane team im looking at, but I dont have the most built skreg or raine so maybe that could be contributing?

[modest nymph]

aath merc

every comp properly under 1m now is satisfying

time to figure it all out again next week

[steady fjord]

Your Morass kill will get ~10s faster when Lava is finished

[modest nymph]

yosh

actually just realized i can put emilia in for a lyca and it doesn’t change the time actually

[steady fjord]

[modest nymph]

wait it hits better on average with emil

where the heck else does alyca go then

[steady fjord]

Puppet

Should be able to get ~40s Puppet with AwLyca

[modest nymph]

who’s she swap with then

o with haelus looks like since i just lowered the time again

[steady fjord]

Hae Vei Puppet was just there for last week's cele buff I assume

Try Eorin + AwLyca r1 and replace Joan with Vei r4?

[modest nymph]

r1 is still hitting ~50 seconds but r4 dropped 5 seconds

[steady fjord]

Hm, is your AwLyca not lowest hp?

Oh Mortas issue

[modest nymph]

o my e lucilla hits 50s too lol

this is the positioning right

[steady fjord]

Also try Palmer r2 Hodg r3

[steady fjord]

Issue is that AwLyca isn't getting Lib's B.Orbs

[modest nymph]

oh hm i’ll see if gear change will work, prob not tho

[steady fjord]

Need an HP collec on Mortas

Or just drop Mortas and try to run something else

Like Eorin Ant or Ana Ant

[modest nymph]

okay r1 still doin the same but i just got massive rng and did a 4m 16s hit

or ig it’s not rng the palmer/hodge swap just did -30s on r2 but only +15 average on r3

[steady fjord]

Yeah Palmer r2 is the way

[modest nymph]

i mean can’t turn down a 18s kill

[steady fjord]

That's faster than mine smh

[modest nymph]

i got winged 18 the other day

welp i’m running into 300 cost runs i think im happy with only almost sub 4 mins lol

[steady fjord]

I only have L AwSol but I have built Tal

Oh that's the run I did last week with wrong collec

Normally 19.16s

[modest nymph]

idk how but it hits exactly 18.91s every single run

new best tho that palmer hodgekin swap was goated

[steady fjord]

Martyr is a very consistent round, timing is exactly when your Tal ults

[modest nymph]

i’d completely forgotten about it cuz beforehand i’d been mercing safiya so i had to do palmer r3 for it to work

[steady fjord]

I get ~20s on Cannon now that I have AwSaf

[modest nymph]

oo im getting another -2 seconds off r1 with joan instead of eorin

[steady fjord]

Best I can get is maybe 3m50 but the r3 rng is awful

[modest nymph]

don’t think ima get the rng that’d give me 4m6s again tho

[steady fjord]

I don't have a huge AwAtha merc anymore

[modest nymph]

yeah r3 has been a huge pain no matter what

welp i just spent 4k diamonds on runs

[steady fjord]

[modest nymph]

was supposed to save some of that for resetting tree for ae

[wary anchor]

is there substitue for alyca in first team

[modest nymph]

uhh joanne vei haelus to start with probably

[compact frost]

My team doesnt use her but does use Abaden

[wary anchor]

ok thabks

[modest nymph]

are you just going for a kill at all at this point

[wary anchor]

any boss that i can use abel on?

[wary anchor]

i can send you my thing

[modest nymph]

i might not be very helpful with early game setups but might as well post em

[wary anchor]

the teams i lost in i didnt try

[modest nymph]

if you use the atheus trial you can put him in r5 and move luci bert to r1

[wary anchor]

who is atheus? sorry lol ive never heard of him

[modest nymph]

the newest hero

[wary anchor]

ah

[modest nymph]

you can get a free trial of him right now that lasts for 3 days

[wary anchor]

I already used free trial 😭

[modest nymph]

ah oh well

Are you making rosa follow talene or asolise btw?

this run on my alt works too see if you can match it and finally get bert in r1

my alts other boss kills, i don’t try too hard on this account but it might still be helpful

asaf merc

[compact frost]

Even though I knew it was coming, reading the test server patch notes that said puppet was gone just made me feel warm inside

[modest nymph]

ikr

[modest nymph]

to free up this merc, joanne still kills actually

[desert belfry]

Who can help me with temporal rift and don't suggest me pins or the channel or else I would not ask here

[inner swallow]

@candid quail

[candid quail]

that uninvested bert damage is nuts

[inner swallow]

moving rem to r1 got kill, and mercing lava for r6 got kill; using my own Palmer for r2 surprised me with another kill; canon was just easy

[inner swallow]

That's a Merc Lava

[candid quail]

why building palmer?

pretty sure he's not trans

[inner swallow]

I'm not; I ran out of ladies ; and +10 is free

[candid quail]

oh

[inner swallow]

all my dudes are gonna be ascended 100e0

Cuz I literally +10 everyone anyways evntually

since purples are so easy to get

[candid quail]

isn't ur acc newer than mine? filthy kraken

[inner swallow]

I save up gold and then buy a bunch of purps from store

[candid quail]

I'm usually broke

[inner swallow]

I did just recently spend a chunk of emblems +20 Twins, soo

Curious to see if that makes any improvements for mw

[candid quail]

masterwatch?

[inner swallow]

me*

[candid quail]

oh xD

[inner swallow]

I type too fast sometimes

Now I just need to figure out next +30 goals

as I more or less have next e30s lined up

[bleak pawn]

Roast what i did earlier this week lol

A solise was mercd

[inner swallow]

Who is Rosa following?

[bleak pawn]

Solise. Whale comps do taeline but it does less damage for me

It has killed before but super low% chance

[inner swallow]

I mean, I have a lot lest investment than you do and get a kill on Martyr

I skip mirror though cuz no Watha, so that might be why

[bleak pawn]

Idk my taeline just doesn't do the damage for some reason

When i watch the whale replay taeline just insta kills

Idk if its my lorsan maybe?

[inner swallow]

Positioning and pets make a big impact; I use lion

[bleak pawn]

Maybe its better now since i got reso9 idk. I know pets matter and some stuff wont work without certain levels there too but idk

[inner swallow]

I could try Radish for ya and see if that's the difference

[bleak pawn]

I like this game but it too complicated

[sullen kelp]

It used to be easier.

[bleak pawn]

Much easier

I actually had a grasp in 2021. Then i quit for almost 2 years

[bleak pawn]

@candid quail

[inner swallow]

Radish gets worse timeing for me at lvl 0, but it still kills, sooo

Not sure where your issue is

[bleak pawn]

Fuck me i guess lol

[inner swallow]

Sorry; you can try swapping to lion and repositioning; due you have tamrus built?

[bleak pawn]

20/9/0 btw that comp was just copied from a whale the 2nd boss one

I hadnt messed around with it cause i was like ok this has a chance good enough

[inner swallow]

Try tamrus instead of Estrilda

[bleak pawn]

Everything else is like half or completely improvised

[inner swallow]

and redo the positioning to match mine if you can, with Tamrus in palmers spot

[candid quail]

Don't copy whales, they try to get times not kills

For us there's much cheaper teams

[bleak pawn]

Im sure but whatever they were as far as i had glanced wasn't visible to me so i had no other reference.

[wheat forge]

can I have some lineup help? I'm only reliably killing bosses with the team in slot two

not pictured but potentially useful: 200e30 hodgkin, 309e30 izoold, 303e30 skriath, 309e30 silas, 303e30 ezizah, L AShem, L AAth, L+ ALyca, 203 Farael, 203 Miskha, 203 Geralt

[median copper]

u need your rosa following talene not asol

[wheat forge]

I don't have talene though

[abstract scroll]

Not even at E?

[bleak pawn]

For me if it follows taeline i dont get below 60% and it does maybe 40% of the damage it does if she follows swolise

[candid quail]

All these listed are useless yeah

[candid quail]

Man these teams are the most random shit I've ever seen, what heroes do u even build lmao

Send ur full box, barely anything there is meta

[wheat forge]

I'm pretty sure you're trolling at this point since Alna/Rem, ABel, Lib, Dim team etc are all pretty meta

the only really meta heroes not listed are the other awakens+lavatune

[candid quail]

hey Floyd

[candid quail]

ok if they're meta then how come ur failing

[strong field]

NC teams pretty much figured out so all you can do is look for people that posted their teams in this channel. Also Farara regularly posting NC guides which can be helpful.

Good day sir.

[candid quail]

this isn't campaign, ur versing bosses

dim comp is bad against bosses

swap normal Lyca for Atheus trial and u get a 6 kill

[wheat forge]

the vast majority of the NC guides that I see are unhelpful to me because they expect you to have all the latest awakens

[candid quail]

how'd ur CR go? I sent teams in #cursed-realm earlier if u haven't hit yet :3

[candid quail]

or maybe because ur not building meta heroes, I can't help u with teams if u don't show me what u have

[wheat forge]

mine won't let me use anything under L anyways

[candid quail]

wrong, it's anything not on ur RC

[candid quail]

I used Mortas round 1, and Lorsan and Talene round 2, plus twins round 6

[wheat forge]

okay I can go resonate them then

this is the closest I can match

[strong field]

Thx, i copied your teams.

[wheat forge]

maybe can get JoA in if I give her a dimensional key

[candid quail]

lyca doesn't work in r5, you'll have to use Daemia

rosaline on Talene in round 2, radish has to be 9 otherwise winged lion is better

[wheat forge]

I have 9 reso

[candid quail]

see if u can merc an asaf for cannon

[strong field]

It's normal if you cant kill all 6 bosses. For now try to understand how many you are able to kill.

[wheat forge]

my Dae is already a merc

[candid quail]

ez, did u beat my 60b?

oh u could probably only manage 3 kills then, unless u fiddle with ur other rounds

[strong field]

Nah, 58b for me. Random is cruel thing or my collections is shit for CR.

[candid quail]

fair fair, my RNG could bring me to 62b but I ain't spending diamonds on that

[wheat forge]

do you think I could beat 1,2,3, and 5 since those are the most complete ones?

[candid quail]

not 3, u need to have a built aatha for it

[strong field]

r1,2,5 should get the kill.

[candid quail]

u could try ur low level Lava for Arden and merc a big watha, but that's up to u

5 if u roll with a merc will be easy kill, but try E Lava first

[strong field]

Anyway, try to get few kills for now and find your starting point then improve from there.

[strong field]

Tamrus is 200?

[wheat forge]

yes

[strong field]

Remove him, he needs investments. r2 is rng but should work, rosa follows Talene. r5 needs better positioning.

Do you have ABelinda? If not Rem could work in r1 try her.

[wheat forge]

I do have ABel she is at 252e60

she's my most recent awaken. I can card her a furniture if I need to

[strong field]

Do not

She is not a main factor for you to get boss kills

[wheat forge]

she's probably my most meta all-around hero after Lib

[strong field]

Try Lib Rem Daemia Morthas Silas r1, r2 should work but rng. R5 add lava to see if you can get a kills.

[wheat forge]

R5 already has my cute little E Lava

(don't mind teams 4 and 6 you said I prob wouldn't get the kill so I just put random heroes there)

[strong field]

And be sure to get all collections you can

[wheat forge]

already done

[candid quail]

if no Trish then she's BiS with Rem in r6

[candid quail]

aight lava doesn't work, swap him for Daemia and settle with 3 kills

I hope ur following the guides in this server as well

what's this weeks quest kill?

[wheat forge]

Yeah my Trish is L+ and not built at all. I try to follow guides now but as you may have noticed I have a lot of gaps when it comes to awakened heroes and recent releases because I am f2p which makes it often difficult for me to follow a guide

[candid quail]

how old is ur account? (what server)

[wheat forge]

quest kill I always got because I had one team that was strong enough to bonk any boss reliably. My account is like 2 years old (S943) but I didn't realize how deep the meta actually was until a couple months ago. Prior to that I'd just been building out whatever heroes were generally agreed as good by reddit and putting them together in teams of two melee + two support + 1 carry. You can make fun of my idiocy if you want.

[candid quail]

oh lord reddit
well A for effort at least

reddit is pretty shaky on advice, some good (like Bob's guides) and most trash (randoms that don't really know the game much)

[wheat forge]

it also doesn't help that I didn't realize stars 2-5 were optional or that you can card awakened stars once you get to ascended. I could have a whole extra awakened with the TE it took to 5* ASol

[candid quail]

wait u 5 starred asol in the temple of time? 😭

[wheat forge]

yep. I didn't know otherwise.

[candid quail]

that's a solid 600 TEs wasted xD

unless ur a huge kraken u won't be doing stuff that like

[wheat forge]

yup. the game is not very good at telling you these kinds of things in-game.

I'm f2p 😭

[candid quail]

only the player base is, u can check high ranked players and see what they do

[abstract scroll]

My respect to the fact that you are taking it well after 2 years and not quitting

[wheat forge]

I'm nothing if not too stubborn for my own good

[candid quail]

Veri are u f2p or smol spender? don't think ur a kraken

[candid quail]

yeah meta play would be to restart fr

[strong field]

I mean i dont want to recommend carding hero for someone basing only at NC performance, Abel is not a bad choice but maybe he can use it better.

[wheat forge]

people have asked me if I would consider restarting and the answer is that after all the time I spent painstakingly getting all of these heroes built little by little, it would kill me to restart

[candid quail]

yea ofc, she's also best damage team (usually) in CR however she's trash in TS

[strong field]

What is a pet for Scarlet team? You seems to have all that need to get at least 1.25+ sec kill

[candid quail]

ridge

or owl, I know my owl 12 killed it as well

slighly faster maybe, not quite sure

[wheat forge]

I also do have a Skreg with 9 furniture that I've been considering for my swap scroll at some point in the future, but I think it'd probably end up going to a newer hero

[candid quail]

oh nice, he's BiS on Mirror

[wheat forge]

you asked earlier to see my whole box. This is pretty much it.

[candid quail]

have u used ur engraving reset yet? if not do it on Rowan

[wheat forge]

I used it on Ainz, as is tradition

[candid quail]

ah right

[wheat forge]

and it immediately got spent on ABel

[candid quail]

yea as I thought it's rather empty xD

this is mine after not quite 11 months

[lucid cradle]

I'd also like to ask for ideas about more than 2 kills in Nightmare Corridor, thanks in advance

[wheat forge]

I...don't really get what you mean by "empty" when it has almost all of the 4F heroes except for the ones released in like the past 3-5 months

[candid quail]

nearly every hero in the past 3-5 months has been meta tho

[wheat forge]

well yeah but as a f2p I can't just shotgun all of the most recent heroes

[candid quail]

I have everything u do (except AThane) and most of mine is more built, not spending enough to have an advantage over 2 years f2p
Rigged got 6 kills a couple times f2p and he's newer than me, and anaste is f2p and consistently gets 6 kills a bit older than me

[wheat forge]

idk what to tell you, I don't think I've missed more than a handful of days of playing the entire 2 years and I've been taking part in every event etc. Whatever the difference is probably comes from being more tuned to the meta.

[candid quail]

yea they both follow the (discord) meta, so they have strong accounts and even place top 100 in TS

[wheat forge]

I started hitting top 10% in TS a few months ago

I'm at 8% right now but it waffles around a lot

[candid quail]

I hit that on my alt after 2 months :despair:

f2p from scratch

[wheat forge]

yeah so the difference is probably literally just how meta you were for the whole time

[candid quail]

yep, for now all u can really do is hope following the meta here will get u better and better ranks

older server is rough for what u have but it'll get there

[wheat forge]

I've actually been creeping upwards naturally, I'm assuming because people quit?

[lucid cradle]

With SI +40/+50 even more would quit, don't worry haha

[candid quail]

if u got good collections that'll happen

[wheat forge]

I have enough collections that everyone I'm using has one except I think I was missing one support collection, and the vast majority of them have at least one red and no blue

[inner swallow]

If I can do it you can do it, especially at that RC

[lucid cradle]

I got Arden too since before

Although I spent 4 Mythic Furniture Cards to get Jerome to 9/9

For more I don't think it's doable with my lack of Awakened heroes and some other great heroes

[potent cairn]

Anyone has the 4 hero comp for morass

[silent aurora]

@potent cairn https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/18y497y/morass_diabolus_4_hero_kill_just_remove_trishea/

https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/18ybuxv/morass_diabolus_4_teams_lvl9_pet/

try the second one if the first doesnt work

[lyric night]

CN NC Guide. will be posting in crowdsource going forward #1088513616812187668 message

[silent aurora]

cant access it

[ebon cargo]

haha more ass

[candid quail]

nice

[silent aurora]

@candid quail mean

[shrewd bolt]

@lyric night how does one get access to that channel? Is it invite only?

[lyric night]

Nope. Its a public server

[shrewd bolt]

@lyric night weird. It says I don’t have access to the link, but I’m a part of that discord group

[lyric night]

Ah. Go on the general chat and ask. U just gotta add that channel to ur list

[compact frost]

Is it one of those servers where you have to like agree to the rules to access most of it? I'm on it I just forget

[lyric night]

nah.

its just u gotta add the channel

[compact frost]

Ah right you like opt in to game mode channels

[lyric night]

yeah

[mild tulip]

Conrad 4 hero team (spider 12 work too)

[candid quail]

new boss VeriEasy

[candid quail]

talis 13

[candid quail]

open spot?

[violet hornet]

3rd

[candid quail]

got it ty

[violet hornet]

[candid quail]

3 weeks 6 kills in a row am so pro

[strong field]

Soon sub 6 min

[slim lion]

Show teams

[candid quail]

can do later, in the middle of a game atm

[steady fjord]

My Conrad is barely faster than Puppet since no Luci or AwLyca

[violet hornet]

Why not normal baden for diabolus?

[candid quail]

u need trish for that

[violet hornet]

Indeed

[candid quail]

abel/rem is second best if u have no trish or can't free up merc, also trish/baden is heavy RNG with smol twins

[steady fjord]

30360 Trish, unengraved Baden & 12 Moth can get 28s

[candid quail]

9f moth with 309e60 trish gets 39s or thereabouts

[drifting kayak]

I was about to 30360 trish and then .. si40-50 happened

[violet hornet]

When you can't get Talene merc

[steady fjord]

You'd still do that before working on SI40s though

[drifting kayak]

I didnt see any good si40 except Bedo .. and maybe Watha

Its the stats that will do the difference

[thick nova]

What do you think of og lycas?

[silent aurora]

which position's empty for conrad 4 kill

[candid quail]

3

[silent aurora]

k

[cedar forge]

is there another option for mirror instead of Alyca?

[thick nova]

Awthalia

I think it may be killable with big eorin

[cedar forge]

how big are we talking? mine is 305e41

[silent aurora]

3096+

[cedar forge]

damn

[thick nova]

Yeah... 309e4x, and may depend on supports and tree too. Mirror is hard, even with big merc awthalia I have trouble

[cedar forge]

I managed to get it by moving rem over to the round

Round 4on the other hand... does not work

is the pet too small?

[silent aurora]

try jerome

[cedar forge]

did not work either

[violet hornet]

Yeah, I merc her maxed and rng still between 45sec and 1m7sec ... Mirrors suck

[round ice]

do you have daemia?

[cedar forge]

yeah

but she is busy carrying my mirror round

[violet hornet]

Did you try with Atheus trial?

[cedar forge]

used it last week unfortunately

[violet hornet]

[thick nova]

Needs more healing, probably. Jerome is the best, but other full team healers may also work, like joan

[cedar forge]

healing is not a problem. everyone survives to the end

[thick nova]

The boss debuffs heroes and getting full hp dispels the debuff

Check if scarlet is staying too long with mid-hp

[cedar forge]

that happens yeah

[cedar forge]

okay got cannon kill!

[round ice]

[cedar forge]

got three kills!!!

turns out switching in liberta did wonders who knew xD

Finally

[round ice]

liberta is #1 cele for a reason

[strong field]

Overall pretty happy with time. Smart people came up with some tech not me.

[round ice]

[drifting kayak]

Woke + Palmer without Talene or Talene and Woke

[round ice]

merc the talene

[drifting kayak]

Why do it in the same time

[compact frost]

Hey everybody guess what? Puppet's dead!

[round ice]

did u merc trish?

[compact frost]

yes

[drifting kayak]

Whats the problem i dont understand

[modest nymph]

just do it for one run, why care about good times in the other rounds for a 4 man kill

[tepid gorge]

Is there any general guide on comps for bosses? Missing a few wokes that seem to be used in every comp (atelene,abaden,aathalia)

[modest nymph]

it’s normal talene that gets used and she works at e if you have asolise

[tepid gorge]

Oh right, well that's one less to worry about in that case

[modest nymph]

baden isn’t that big in nc like he is in cr so that just leaves aath who obv you can merc

[tepid gorge]

I've never really tried pushing in corridor but wanted to get a general idea of what teams I can / should use to escape diamond 4.

Not sure of how this channel usually functions but is there anywhere for me to follow to get functional comps? Alternatively here's my box if that's of any use

[modest nymph]

i think you could do r1 talene, maaaaybe abrutus r3, scarlet r4

and with an aath merc maaaaaybe r2

[tepid gorge]

Are they autos or manuals

[modest nymph]

you can’t manual nc

[tepid gorge]

Oh at all? Never even noticed ngl

Makes that much easier then

I'll do 1 run with similar teams to those and see what I get, appreciate the help, will post results in a minute

[modest nymph]

use atheus in r4 instead of joan since you got the trial of him btw

[tepid gorge]

Cool will do, I'll randomly fill for athalia for the first run since I don't have her mercd yet

[modest nymph]

eorin will prob be your best fill but i doubt it’ll kill

[tepid gorge]

1 kill and some seem quite low hp

3/4/6 seem doable maybe

Possibly replace lyca in 6, not sure about lucretia in 3

4 I'm guessing is just rng? Potentially more investment in Palmer for e60?

Didn't have baden for 5 so threw something random together

[modest nymph]

oh baden works at e for r5, it’s trish that’s important to have there

so i think taking r2 apart and mercing an Alyca might be the next thing to try

like mishka out for eorin, saurus out for naroko, crassio out for joan

r4 i’m not too sure what the benchmark really is for that if what you got rn isn’t working

[tepid gorge]

Managed to get 2 kills by taking apart r2, no idea why my r4 does so little dmg tbh, r6 is a case of getting asc 1* on liberta I feel

Appreciate the help, getting late so will experiment later

[modest nymph]

yuh mercing woke alyca could mean 3 kills which with your roster is as much as i’d really expect, plus figuring out r4. oh yeah rosa follows talene btw in case you have her on solise

[celest oxide]

my baden can't beat that team for some reason

does trishea need invest

this one.. except my trishea is like 202 🤓

[strong field]

My Trish was 300e30 for 1 min clear

[compact frost]

Trish is basically the carry, she just gets Baden to do the damage

[celest oxide]

shit

what does trish need minimum for that to work?

[compact frost]

I would have figured 303 but apparently 300e30 worked

[celest oxide]

hmm

i can't afford her si30 but probably can soon. i guess i was gonna invest her eventually anyway

[short herald]

anyone know why despite my team with nev is doing significantly better stat wise all around it's much slower than with palmer in instead

[strong field]

Palmer is a top tier support while Nevi is making branches

[celest oxide]

nevi has cute tax

[steady fjord]

Not using Palmer on Martyr is only fast if you have both Tal & AwSol built

Mine's like 55s without Palmer vs 19s with Palmer

[short herald]

yeah but it helped the speed of my runs overall
losing 18 sec here in favour of gaining 40 sec dif on mirror guy

[empty bone]

any suggestions for r2?

i can kill r6 without nevanthi, if that helps for r2

[steady fjord]

That r2 should work, ig it's just having issues because small AwAtha

Oh and only Tali 13

Moth 12 should work better than small Tali

[candid quail]

I think talis 15 is the minimum for that round, so yeah roll with moth

[empty bone]

that worked yea 👍

[candid quail]

alternatively u could've moved palmer from r1 to r2 and thrown in neva for r1

take out hodgkin

[empty bone]

who should i throw into r6?

[candid quail]

my r6 was completely different to urs so I can't say for sure

is that alyca even doing anything? looks more harmful than helpful

[empty bone]

i put lucilla in and got a 54s kill

[empty bone]

shaved about 20s off r6, pretty good
ill experiment with removing alyca
whats ur r6 team?

[candid quail]

random bullshit go

[empty bone]

im getting about 1-2s improvement with lucilla replacing alyca and tamrus or mortas in position 5
could just be within error, but ill take it

[arctic parcel]

.

Is Trish 30330 enough for R5 in NC?

[strong field]

My time with 300e30 Trish

[arctic parcel]

idk if it works with small twins

[strong field]

You can try the cheat death collection but yeah could be a problem

[arctic parcel]

ty

[cedar forge]

Can anyone help me with this idk any team comps and can’t manage past 2 kills

[elfin leaf]

Crassio 20-3-30 hit like a truck ~.~

[arctic parcel]

Damn thats sick

[snow rover]

Is there a replacement for lavatune in r5?

[steady fjord]

Kraken bis uses Lava on r3 and Gavus + Gin on r5

But it's very difficult to copy that

[teal monolith]

Isn’t r3 whane

[elfin leaf]

you can just use ... E lavatune ,

[steady fjord]

Oh fk this is NC
don't mind my dumbass defaulting to CR rounds

[chrome bolt]

@flint jungle thread for NC teams?

[tepid gorge]

Anyone have any ideas why my r4 is performing so poorly

[steady fjord]

For starters you should use collec, but idk if that'd fully fix it

[silent aurora]

probs pets and invest