nightmare-corridor

[cursive epoch]

ye

[abstract scroll]

Went from 4m kills to 6m

[formal totem]

[cursive epoch]

i went from 517 to 703

[formal totem]

[abstract scroll]

Lucilla vei mortas tam liberta

[formal totem]

Mortas

[cursive epoch]

can't you get away with mercing daemia, myu?

[umbral flame]

veri back

[formal totem]

I need dae for r4

r3*

[cursive epoch]

you can get slow r1 and run athalia r3

[formal totem]

[cursive epoch]

just get a eorin 3 wilder kill without athalia

and kill r3 with athalia

[formal totem]

lemme see

[steady fjord]

Merc Lib for R5?

[formal totem]

r5 is so close though, boss only has like 5% left

[formal totem]

i'll try ty

[cursive epoch]

you can do it

[formal totem]

[umbral flame]

@steady fjord can u show nc teams

[steady fjord]

My teams suck but I can show them

[umbral flame]

mine sucks more

[thick nova]

My best time overall. Hope it helps. Libby merc

[steady fjord]

Merc is AwSaf R5 (pretty sure AwLyca is better but I forgot about merc reset )

[umbral flame]

alr ty guys

i need abel merc anyway

liberta

[steady fjord]

R5 needing me to rush build Lib and also merc for it

[umbral flame]

e works?

[steady fjord]

It didn't work at 303

[umbral flame]

[silent aurora]

asol is better for r5

elite bert will work for demonic puppet

[umbral flame]

i still lack worm too

[steady fjord]

My teams are pretty unoptimised because a lot of my testing straight up failed

[dapper hemlock]

who did you use on r6 if mortas on r5 ?

[umbral flame]

better than my random bs go

[steady fjord]

I'm pretty sure my teams could get optimised to sub 5min

But I'm not spending more dia on it this week

[silent aurora]

spend more dias man

[abstract scroll]

Scrap that, I'm dumb. Bad memory. Brain damage from all of this NC.

[umbral flame]

ye not a chance i cant kill 6

[dapper hemlock]

I feel you,
I want it to stop already
And who is on R2 if palmer is on R5

[umbral flame]

whats the pity on sg 60 or 70

[dapper hemlock]

I'm tired of moving stuff around all the fcking time

[surreal plinth]

@formal totem saw you guys talking about eorin r1

[dapper hemlock]

should be 65

Eorin R1 is mvp

[umbral flame]

then 120 cards and a dream for m berta

[silent aurora]

nice

[dapper hemlock]

So you're the second Super shy in my fl

[surreal plinth]

[umbral flame]

nvm i have 178 free sg

wish me luck

[dapper hemlock]

thanks
I'll try to move haelus to R2 like you, maybe I'll get 6kill

[umbral flame]

70 pull 1 bert

[dapper hemlock]

gl

[abstract scroll]

Damn you also don't have 6 kill

[dapper hemlock]

nope I can't kill r5 yet, I tried with wyca merc but doesn't work

[umbral flame]

fk bert and his rates

[formal totem]

bicc eorin

[umbral flame]

180 pull 2 bert

[surreal plinth]

[dapper hemlock]

[abstract scroll]

[dapper hemlock]

Finally got 6k, pls kill me now

[abstract scroll]

[dapper hemlock]

5min38

I'm really considering the idea to activate reso 12 now, I'd like to have a usable spooder

[steady fjord]

I averaged 1/45.5 overall for Lib A1

[umbral flame]

[steady fjord]

That's 683 SG for A1 + the free copy from event

7 copies took over 60

[abstract scroll]

Better than my 1/50

[steady fjord]

My rates only got saved by my 20 pull double

Otherwise 10 had shit rates

[umbral flame]

my dae was a bit better

[cursive epoch]

@west turret what was your workaround for abel overheat?

[west turret]

wdf is overheat?

[cursive epoch]

[west turret]

oh rosa doesnt work there for me, it had to be palmer

[formal totem]

[west turret]

45s,47, 1m, or ded is what I discovered

[cursive epoch]

[formal totem]

What rank

[cursive epoch]

17%

i have one more try

[formal totem]

f

[west turret]

this one is tough, either bert, luci, alyca, or 1lene merc

is a pain in the to find which works for ya

[formal totem]

i dont want to pop trial

[cursive epoch]

do i gamble?

[surreal plinth]

No

Yall stop there now

[west turret]

i barely got my 303e0 alyca to give me sub 1

[surreal plinth]

Don't you dare beat me

[cursive epoch]

i won't improve a minute

[west turret]

and yeah stop, i went to 700 diamond terrority because I want frame

[surreal plinth]

Oh wait that's 6:34 nvm

[cursive epoch]

yea, my improvement would be around 9s if i get a good soul hound

[surreal plinth]

Wtf
I felt bad going to 500

[cursive epoch]

don't think it's worth 300 dias tho

[west turret]

there was just too many combinations to try

[spiral rose]

i got r6 without rosa or palmer 😎

[surreal plinth]

Yeah I hate that after new boss release

[west turret]

what time tho

[spiral rose]

5:00 or so

[west turret]

wdf

[golden river]

No Rosa or Palmer

[cursive epoch]

i'm gonna stop here, i think i get t20% with this

[golden river]

Impressive

[spiral rose]

the secret is ||give up on puppet and use bert r6||

[west turret]

LOL so 5K?

[spiral rose]

mhm

[west turret]

[spiral rose]

bert only M+30 he doesn't have a chance

[west turret]

puppet is weird, i thought subbing silas for baden would do better, but nope

[cursive epoch]

therer was one more thing i could've tried, but i'll do it next NC

wait, 2 things

[thick nova]

What's the buff for r2 next week?

Mauler/gb?

[cursive epoch]

gb/mauler

[thick nova]

Weird buff, hard to take advantage, I think

[west turret]

actually i lied silas for baden is faster, but it turns a stable 57s to 55s-1.Xs

[spiral rose]

should free up supports to make r6 faster, hopefully

[thick nova]

Yeah, good point

Ivan, hodg, Silas with Abel maybe

[spiral rose]

how many days until puppet is gone

[cursive epoch]

yea, if random gbs + ivan is enough to work, it might help

[west turret]

134d

[spiral rose]

fuck

[thick nova]

Ouch...

[west turret]

22d r1 gone

[formal totem]

soon

[spiral rose]

134 days of 5 kills or less

[cursive epoch]

why

[spiral rose]

ask lilith why

they're the ones who made puppet, not me

[west turret]

💳 is why

[cursive epoch]

[spiral rose]

if I want to kill puppet I have to sacrifice like 3 other kills

[west turret]

oh celz, a better abel helps too; made me e67 her

but i think i need to work on rosa for better r6 based on proxy's findings

[spiral rose]

Rosa +30 is slept on (well any good Cr player already has it so maybe it's just obvious so not mentioned)

[cursive epoch]

oh, i can't afford e67, specially with next woke soon

[west turret]

Crazy how r2 is my most fail or not fail round

[west turret]

yeah i need to get her slowly T_T

[thick nova]

Mine is +25 cuz I had a bunch of lb emblems from tower. I'll go back to it after Libby +30, I think

But e38 already helped a lot with R6

[west turret]

Oh my Rosa is si30 when the hell did I do that

[spiral rose]

[ebon cargo]

tbf who the hell else are you gonna si30 in lb? fawkes? 😂

[deep wedge]

whats a good 4 person team for light martyr

[elfin trellis]

Any sub for Naroko?

[celest oxide]

me

[lyric night]

often use mishka as naro sub. not sure if itll work this time

[jade linden]

Who needs olgath anyways

Couldn't get better than 44s R4 with a variety of olgath teams

Big awthalia merc for R3 makes it way less RNG and saves ~5s

Owl in R2 I just took picture too fast

[bright echo]

Those pets

[lyric night]

kinda last min but. best was 4m9s. could do a lot better in R5 if i had awsaf. but oh well.

[little skiff]

@balmy ice can I get Bert please

[faint wyvern]

Nou

[little skiff]

Or @cursive epoch

Pwease

[little skiff]

[cursive epoch]

[celest oxide]

🪦

[little skiff]

Ty

[dapper hemlock]

My R4 is 1min (haelus instead of trishea)
My R5 is 1min17 with wyca trial E luci instead of yours

[lyric night]

kinda late now but i think i think theres better teams for u. found some good ones

[little skiff]

@steady fjord can I get oglene please

[steady fjord]

@dapper hemlock James also asking now

[dapper hemlock]

wait 10min

didn't told you but I got one already

[little skiff]

Ahh cool

I czn have her then @steady fjord

[dapper hemlock]

no

[steady fjord]

What if I wait until 30s left

[little skiff]

[little skiff]

Gib now

[steady fjord]

Already sent

[little skiff]

Ahhh tyty

[dapper hemlock]

Already spent enough dias trying to get 6k I think I'll stop now anyway

[lyric night]

[dapper hemlock]

You're still not sleeping wtf

[lyric night]

im fixing my TS teams and going to bed....or else im gonna screw up calc this time. already dropped from 4 to 6

[dapper hemlock]

I dropped too
but idk if I can really fix it

[steady fjord]

My Tal is actually 1 copy off A3 because of scrolls too

My peaks are too low to improve a reward tier even with perfect rng

[lyric night]

sometimes i get lucky when it swap from 4 to 5 (round before calc). so gonna give it a shot

[lyric night]

wow! nice. if i had random drop. id take em to 3* for sure

its on my bucket list just pushed back

[steady fjord]

I think the whole reason she's A2 is that I got a random copy then gazed the 2nd

[lyric night]

i want random copy

i get the ones i dont need all the time...

[dapper hemlock]

I have the scrolls from hoe rewards idk what to do with them

I think I should be going faction scrolls

[lyric night]

faction?!

[steady fjord]

Actually I could improve my reward tier for NC but it wouldn't get more bait so I won't bother

[dapper hemlock]

but idk if I want to get naroko/ginneas/trishea to A

[lyric night]

dont bother except maybe naro

im pushing back trish and doing naro

[dapper hemlock]

yeah we got chest with either faction scrolls or regular scrolls

[steady fjord]

I got Naro to A1 with HoE reg scrolls + 1 mauler card

[lyric night]

u get so little with faction. i went regular

i got a random naro too im gonna hcp a copy for the 6k poe

im gonna engrave her eventually too i think

[steady fjord]

I can't believe I actually just opened 1 mauler card to get A1 done

[lyric night]

????

[balmy ice]

Yes

[steady fjord]

Like, she was at A then I got a random copy from scrolls. Then I opened 1 mauler card and it was Naroko

[lyric night]

i want

nice!!!

[steady fjord]

My NC did a lot better than last week now that I have 30360 Lib

[dapper hemlock]

me too

but it was even harder than last week to get 6k

[steady fjord]

6 copies off Lion 18

[lyric night]

my nc is stuck where it always is. around 30%...

[dapper hemlock]

what 6k poe

[lyric night]

ship

[dapper hemlock]

isn't it 2k poe for 3f and 3k for 9f ?

[lyric night]

6k poe for 1*

[dapper hemlock]

Oooh yeah I can't see it yet since my naro is only M+

[lyric night]

i thought cr/nc reward come together. guess not

[balmy ice]

They come like 10-15 mins apart

[lyric night]

thanks！

nc 29% oh well. nothing unexpected

[dapper hemlock]

nc35%

[little skiff]

Got celowz in the end

[balmy ice]

Celowz whel

[dapper hemlock]

You had enough time to run NC ?

[lyric night]

[little skiff]

Yup, had 2m30

Got -45s

[dapper hemlock]

final time ?

[lyric night]

nc gave 3200 diamonds. spent about that much rng with cr and nc i think. oh well

[little skiff]

5m7s nc is shit now with those two new bosses I swear

I used to get 1% I’m 7-8% now

[dapper hemlock]

^ This
fuck the new bosses

[lyric night]

feel u. i dropped nc time by like 45s+

[dapper hemlock]

At some point I managed to get sub 4min then we got the last two bosses

and I'm barely getting sub 5min

but my rank didn't drop that much so ig that's ok ?

[lyric night]

ur right heart. same here. dropped in time but rank abt the same

[little skiff]

I used it be sub 4mins now I’m above 5 lol

[balmy ice]

I used to be ~T180-190 now I am T125

[dapper hemlock]

You've fully embraced the dark side of the force

[lyric night]

got 16%! second time. hopefully more frequently in the future~

[dapper hemlock]

[steady fjord]

7%

I got super lucky with the CR baits though, got a beast in a single 10x

[spiral rose]

A lotta ppl hit NC overnight eh

[steady fjord]

Like 3 days ago I was 30% with 5 kill

[balmy ice]

Post reso 18 life is a bliss

[lyric night]

[dapper hemlock]

reso 18
such a big whel, I have yet to activate reso 12

[lyric night]

im gonna wait until TS rewards to collect everything to feel a little bit better

[dapper hemlock]

pulled twice and didn't got an elite

you lied

[lyric night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137640870426984468/1149062389136900226/a2aeb92fb9389b5066423899c035e5dde6116e39.gif

feel better. next time!

veritas in TS channel pulled 350= nothing too

[dapper hemlock]

now let's pull with the poe

[steady fjord]

I think I'm like 1-2 months off Lion 18

(Not that I was aiming for it next but I just have 3 beasts on WL and will do whichever comes first )

[lyric night]

imma save poe a bit longer till i confirm im pulling awlyca

prob this week at most

[dapper hemlock]

I can activate reso 12 now, but would only get 3 spice from tricking with spooder

[lyric night]

wait it out

patience

[dapper hemlock]

but it's pain with lvl 0 spooder

[steady fjord]

I just activated spooder for 1 spice to get Seal done asap

[lyric night]

[steady fjord]

There's a bunch of CR R1s that spooder helps the budget ver

[dapper hemlock]

my wl rn is spooder talis owl

[lyric night]

mine is similar owl spooder deer

[dapper hemlock]

talis 18 already ?

or tricking with deer ?

[lyric night]

i wanna trick tali

yeah tricking basically

[dapper hemlock]

I'll trick either owl or tali idk, whichever comes first

[lyric night]

cause im about done with owl just from wl drops

[dapper hemlock]

but I have 6 spice stored already + 3 from spooder, so that's still a long way to go from lvl 12 to 18

it's 24 copies from 12 to 18 right ?

[river palm]

Yeah

[lyric night]

12 from 15 lol

24

[steady fjord]

12 is from 15

[lyric night]

yeah my brain. i need 24 copies of tali then....omg

[dapper hemlock]

so 9/24

[lyric night]

ill get 12 out of tricking. dont think itll be enough

[steady fjord]

Spice spooder to 15 to test if it lets you claim ship

[dapper hemlock]

could do lion as 2nd lvl 18 pet, he's already 13.1

[steady fjord]

I'll probably end up doing lion 2nd because it's 16.1

[dapper hemlock]

no

[lyric night]

spooder on wl hoping id get done to 15 by the time ship ends

[steady fjord]

Aren't you high enough vip to see the beast ships anyway

[dapper hemlock]

what vip is it already ? 13 or 14 ?

[lyric night]

vip ship?

[dapper hemlock]

you're a big whel you should know

[dapper hemlock]

pet ship post lvl12 can't be claimed by low vip players

(even the free part)

[lyric night]

what?!

[river palm]

I think that's not true they just can't see it until they get it

[spiral rose]

No f2p has reso 15 and I haven't seen anyone get a pet to 15 in time to check so... I think we just don't know lol

[lyric night]

i just see its 100 free baits for hitting 15. so i want it.

i have reso 12. so to get to 15 in two months...a lot of luck but maybe ill get it

gm joux!

[spiral rose]

Reso 15 kinda meh, most ppl just go for reso 18 straight away

Gm farara

[steady fjord]

The only vague info we have to go off is from a supposedly f2p fox simp

[lyric night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137640870426984468/1151738074359939133/04.gif

yeah reso 15 for tricking only. not activating anytime soon

[steady fjord]

Reso 15 does gain value over time (e.g. the last 3 beasts all have good lvl15 skills)

[lyric night]

by the time reso 15 is worth it im sure ill have it

[dapper hemlock]

After the hero simping we get the pet simping

[steady fjord]

I feel like reso 15 will be pretty good after 1 or 2 more beast releases

[lyric night]

wonder whats next

[river palm]

It's pretty easy to get reso15 incidentally. Like Seal/talis/owl/wl all 18 then if you decide to get spooder/fox/deer 15 instead of getting one of them 18 and another of them 15 then you'll have reso15

[steady fjord]

Atm there is enough lvl15s that you'd want to have to actually reach reso

[lyric night]

on a side note, ive seen fox being listed as high prio 18 than wlion in some guides

[river palm]

I think that's reasonable

[steady fjord]

Maybe

[spiral rose]

Good thing about tricking 15 is you can activate it anytime

[steady fjord]

Fox seems quite a lot better than Lion for TS and Fox 18 is a nice dps up for CR+NC

[spiral rose]

Poor wl, in just a few months went from first pet to 18 to 6th

[lyric night]

veri sad wlion

[river palm]

As a non-wl18 haver my entirely uninformed opinion is that wl is overrated by the general playerbase

[steady fjord]

Lion is pretty low rated, it's just common to have because of the past

[spiral rose]

Go on Reddit and they'll still tell you wl over seal

[lyric night]

wlion is the first set of pets right?

they say asol over all aw too...

[river palm]

Yeah its first gen

[lyric night]

first gen pet lasting this long

[steady fjord]

Well reddit has less thought capacity than the bait that you feed to beasts

[spiral rose]

I saw someone on Reddit say seal isn't good in pvp and got lots of up votes. What a scary place

[lyric night]

[steady fjord]

First set of beasts was just Fire fatty, Ice fatty, Blade + balls

[spiral rose]

Everyone there is hardstuck at 10% or worse

[lyric night]

reddit is a roaming place. kinda like questions for me. but with more info

[lyric night]

oh was it?

i thought wlion came together

[steady fjord]

And release order should be reverse order of appearance under beast profiles

[lyric night]

did wlion come out with RCL?

[steady fjord]

Lion was first

[lyric night]

gotcha. guess it was balls with blade and fatties then wlion then RCL

[steady fjord]

I think Tali was the first to have a ship?

[lyric night]

i still remember when ves was expected to be the superb pet

think so yea. new year thing to have ship?

[dapper hemlock]

I really don't get why they're still saying that for real

[lyric night]

but they also gave out the old pets ship when tali ship was out i think

[dapper hemlock]

I mean I like my wolise but if I had to pick a woke rn I doubt she would be in the first 4 wokes that come to mind

[river palm]

Bc stupid

[lyric night]

there's a saying that support heroes last while cc heroes change. so they think awsol/awsaf would last longer

thats true. they do last longer

but doesnt mean theyre better

[dapper hemlock]

I mean that's not wrong, about the supports lasting longer
but building her now is kinda shooting yourself in the foot imo

[steady fjord]

If anything, it's most surprising that Blade is still used

[dapper hemlock]

she might last longer but she's been out for a year already sooo

[lyric night]

exactly. no matter what id build abel first as a new player

[steady fjord]

Not even AwBaden is a yr old yet (nov last yr)

[lyric night]

i like blade~ i think hes lasting because of the haste thing he does?

[dapper hemlock]

Wolise was before waden wasn't she ?

[lyric night]

yeap

[steady fjord]

Blade is around because it's a generically flexible dps up

AwSol was roughly this time last year

[lyric night]

yeah was used with ainz back in the days i remember

[dapper hemlock]

yeah so she's around a year old

Ainz

[lyric night]

ainz got replaced by abel pretty much

and the rest of powercreep

[dapper hemlock]

he kinda disappeared before abel

[lyric night]

true dying lion

aight needa go to bed. cya later

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137640870426984468/1149062129828253787/44699f25ab18972b8ad72114a3cd7b899c510afb.jpg.gif

[steady fjord]

Ainz disappeared for budget teams around AwBrutus ish
(Relegated to like T6 bs)

[dapper hemlock]

GN Farara, and thanks for the help on CR

[lyric night]

anytime heart!

thx for the help s1x

[dapper hemlock]

I'm not even using him in T6/T7 because his girl bedo is still top tier

[steady fjord]

The upcoming NC buff is going to be mauler/GB for Dusk

[steady fjord]

I meant like 14 months ago

[dapper hemlock]

and basically everyone that we used to put with ainz is busy elsewhere

[steady fjord]

I wish you could activate the NC buffs with a combined 3 from the 2 factions

[vestal raptor]

First time

[steady fjord]

[regal thunder]

And here I am in the top 80%

[west turret]

12%

Last minute people OP wdf

[surreal plinth]

Yeah they pushed so hard its ridiculous

Was 9.4 last I checked 3hr before the end

[dapper hemlock]

Congrats

[warm tangle]

Hello ladies and gentleman. Not a NC question per se, but I wonder what ya all are using to fight Wrizz and Soren? The guide in the #faq-resources seems to be outdated a lot because I don't think that while we now have Liberta / Dae / Ivan, the regular aBel + Palmer + Rosa + Raine + whatever is still valid. Will be thankful for team suggestions for bossfights.

[formal totem]

[lyric night]

i killed wrizz a long time ago. used abel back then. mercing a good abel would pretty much kill the boss so i think not many tried to find better comps cause abel does the job fine.

[warm tangle]

guildbosses are RC sensible, aren't they? So at some point RC level just will smash wrizz / soren with whatever team. I'm at 386 now so it's a bit different

[lyric night]

i think so. i killed it when abel first came out so like in january. i think was about lvl 500ish back then. prob a good time to actually make a new guild boss guide. i think most guide contributors have older (higher rc) accounts now. will have to ask around probably

[warm tangle]

to deal most damage I did for now (~270bil) I used aBel + Ivan + Dae + Palmer + some 5th hero I can't remember now. Possibly Raine or Twins.
While initial guide were about aBel / Rosa / Palmer / Raine + some variation heroes.

[lyric night]

perhaps u could test some teams out and make a reddit post for it if its helpful for others? new guides could always get pinned if its good

[warm tangle]

I possibly could... but I need to build up more heroes 🙂
Working on Bert now... and I really need some more investments on some more heroes

[lyric night]

slow and steady no rush. always kinda nice to have guides will lower investments as well

[fiery prism]

A new guild boss guide would be 🔥

[cursive epoch]

@formal totem

[formal totem]

[cursive epoch]

[formal totem]

thanks cemidz

[cursive epoch]

mid

[formal totem]

if u can get under 5 mins u'll be cehighz

[cursive epoch]

i already gave up

[surreal plinth]

Sub 5 impossible

[formal totem]

gib cr comps with wyca nn

:HypersL:

[surreal plinth]

[cursive epoch]

[formal totem]

[noble wadi]

this is so dumb

im missing 1 support to cut my time by 2 mins

[cursive epoch]

which one

[noble wadi]

doesnt matter

any strong buffer

i cant use awthalia here cause

i need her here cause

im missing 1 support

[surreal plinth]

Too much offensive stuff. Add Joa and others

[noble wadi]

i tried everything i had left this is just from the best run

[surreal plinth]

[noble wadi]

but still awthalia cuts it by 40+s

[cursive epoch]

thanks

[surreal plinth]

Not for you

[cursive epoch]

it's something else, your CR

[surreal plinth]

You are already 1b ahead stop copying

[cursive epoch]

i swapped r5 and r3 and it did better

[surreal plinth]

[formal totem]

[noble wadi]

how much is ur mortas doing in r5

[surreal plinth]

Gonna miss a lot of damage from r6

[cursive epoch]

how would i check that?

[noble wadi]

didnt you try with other supports?

[cursive epoch]

well, it went from no kill to kill

[noble wadi]

i dont think mine will work tho

[cursive epoch]

but i probably did something worng

cause i had a kill without mortas before

i probably just tried something stupid

[west turret]

Check r7 for my teams

[cursive epoch]

[west turret]

What’s ur mask kill

[cursive epoch]

maybe the shiny stars are just better

my mask sucks

[west turret]

That’s why I moved Rosa there

Brought it from 1:06 to 54

[cursive epoch]

oh, wait

you should be able to get 55~58s mask with the standard comp

this is an old one cause i have the worst rng possible but...

you need to finish your haelus

[noble wadi]

can you manipulate raine thing with artis in nc?

[cursive epoch]

good question

[west turret]

If rng hits I can potentially get 5min

[west turret]

Rosa was better I think so raine helps dusk more

[spiral rose]

God I fucking hate puppet

Piece of shit boss

[noble wadi]

i hate that hes 1shoting ira

[cursive epoch]

ira survives if you run daemia

[noble wadi]

im trying something

[digital basalt]

Mask is still my worst time

[spiral rose]

Mine died but it's only blue

[spiral rose]

Well I can't even kill puppet so

[digital basalt]

It’s a stacked team, to be fair

[spiral rose]

My Bert too smol

Once I max him out puppet will already be gone lol

[cursive epoch]

[noble wadi]

this would kill in 1 min if i could use ira but she dies

[digital basalt]

New players are doomed

[west turret]

Ok I like this but it frees up supports instead of having them all with Abel

I’ll try again later to see if e60 Alyca helps

@slow dust use the buff

[wanton pollen]

Anyone got a 4 man team for the new boss?

[noble wadi]

fat talene palmer lorsan +1

[slow dust]

No waden? Sub?

[silent aurora]

according to reddit any strong character will do

[alpine prawn]

anyone here? i need a little help for 2 boss kills.

[west turret]

Silas worked last week but this week Silas is better in r2

[slow dust]

Ic

[west turret]

Maybe I can test daimon but I will test it at end of week for trial usage

[alpine prawn]

anyone with a near similar box able to share with me two teams for nc. i really need to kill 2 bosses

[regal thunder]

The new boss: rowan lorsan rosa(talene) big talene nevanthi. The lady: Anasta Raine Palmer Abelinda inva

Best I can do

Or just copy and paste I don't care

[alpine prawn]

thanks a lot

[regal thunder]

Gg

[alpine prawn]

your the reason ive got 1* for mae. today anyways. i wouldve had her tmrw but i impatient. so thanks

[drifting kayak]

Did you follow my reddit guide ? 😂

[regal thunder]

Yes and no, the last team I done random bs

[drifting kayak]

U dont have Abel for second boss ?

[regal thunder]

Gimme a break I'm doing Abaden

Only a few days ago I started Abel

[drifting kayak]

She can work at M si30 just to know

[regal thunder]

Leg+

[slow dust]

Just for test but it got same time lol

[west turret]

Baden is just my filler that worked

Olga might be better but that's far away

[icy tinsel]

If you have Mae, use her & her SP it should work better

[west turret]

Is Mae sp better than alyca?

[icy tinsel]

Was a pretty big speed difference for me

Maetria replacing baden was 20s faster

Didn't test for Maetria SP vs Alyca SP difference though

[west turret]

Same speed but ily that retry test RNG the other boss for my best time

[icy tinsel]

LOL

You're really close to my speed 😓

My R5 kill is terribly slow though, since my Lucila isn't built yet

[west turret]

THIS BETTER GET ME 10%

[icy tinsel]

It will

[west turret]

Not this BS again

[icy tinsel]

Ouch

[west turret]

[icy tinsel]

Lucila needs 9/9 to have consistent Anti-heal right?

[west turret]

Not sure I thought it was the e60 that was good

Ask nihi probs

[icy tinsel]

The engravings are mainly for PVP I think

[west turret]

Ah

[icy tinsel]

[west turret]

Ty for the luck

Back to late lunch or imma die on hike

[icy tinsel]

LOL enjoy 🥳

[golden river]

626 fam

[west turret]

626 the best

[golden river]

Will always rep 626 🤝

[west turret]

Born and raised maybe retire we'll see

[surreal sparrow]

hello I've recently unlocked this gamemode, is there any comps or cheat sheet I can find to do them?

[lyric night]

hmp. many of us just copy whatever's on leaderboard. if it doesnt work, i check what others r using in this channel (some ppl post their teams) as well as in cursed friends server

[surreal sparrow]

ohh okay thanks

[lyric night]

[rich sphinx]

As you just unlocked, your best bet could be checking on whatever @drifting kayak comes up with

[west turret]

also just try to focus one 1-2 kills, then slowly splitting off to get more kills too maybe

[median copper]

the first kill is always the hardest

[ebon cargo]

Why did this one suck so much? What's the piece I'm missing?

okay well I want to at least go for a 4 kill, could someone help me troubleshoot the first team? my dps goes bonkers like 5 seconds before the end of the fight so i need to know how to break that shield faster

[thick nova]

I think you need someone to attack the boss from behind

[ebon cargo]

yeah i don't know who would be best at that, unless I should try taking grezhul back from team 2 and putting in Hodge or something

[thick nova]

Eorin is the most usual

[ebon cargo]

would eorin work at m20? since he's not for dps

[thick nova]

Idk

[ebon cargo]

it worked, thanks for the rec

as for a 5 kill that seems to be out of my reach cause idk what i would even use for the puppet at this point, i've only ever killed him with rem palmer ira

[silent aurora]

yeah puppet needs strong lib

[ebon cargo]

and the light martyr i really dk because that shit makes no sense to me

other than the talene clears I've seen nothing that I could conceivably do

[spiral rose]

mercing another round already?

[ebon cargo]

i tried stacking asolise and it only did 3 bil dmg

[ebon cargo]

the merc here is Daemia in Duskwailer but I could maybe make it work with an E Dae and RNG

[spiral rose]

I kill with L solise, L talene, palmer rosa lorsan, 9 deer. Only works this week when belinda can get away without palmer or rosa. Other weeks I need maxe talene

[ebon cargo]

I mean not duskwailer but rather the other thing

The scarlet mask guy

[silent aurora]

solise, L talene, palmer rosa lorsan, 9 deer never worked for me

@ebon cargo you mean the yellow bug thing right

[ebon cargo]

The yellow bug thing is the one i'm trying to kill, the mask curator is the one i'm using merc for rn

[spiral rose]

mask is pain without awthalia

[ebon cargo]

My soul hound team somehow works and o don't want to touch a single part of it for fear it'll shatter into a million pieces upon inspection

Is/can ALyca be useful in any of the other bosses other than round 1 here? I think I can make mulan do that one herself

[spiral rose]

other than puppet, I don't think so

i tried it in some other places, didn't do much. was okay in mask

[thick nova]

I use her with scarlet in masked

[ebon cargo]

the extreme whale comps are using lyca r2 with maulers instead of belinda

[thick nova]

I can see how Lyca can fit anywhere, really. I use her to buff scarlets ME, because masked suppresses a lot otherwise. I get a decrease from 1min to 50s

[silent aurora]

nice another op woke

[ebon cargo]

it feels like only a few weeks ago that ppl said "f2p will never kill hound, the boss is too hard to be worth it"

lol

[noble wadi]

nc is getting out of reach with the new bosses

[spiral rose]

Budget Hound kills were found like 1-2 weeks in, still nothing for puppet

You need maxed Bert or rem, which would kill hound

[ebon cargo]

the l asol e talene team for r6 just seems like such a meme there's no way im gazing a copy to check if that works

like, big if true, cause then i could get a 5 kill since i'm not using solise and i'm sure i can nudge palmer out of the duskwailer comp with enough effort

[thick nova]

This is not a meme

[ebon cargo]

i don't have bell 9 either way

making ira viable is great for the memes and all but seriously puppet is such a shit boss

I still can't beat stage 19 of that event lol

[spiral rose]

It's very fun that I just won't kill puppet again, even with a Merc he doesn't die

Maybe if I got a lucilla copy and got my hands on a maxed Bert instead of my M+30, but they're hard to come by

[ebon cargo]

I thought i could kill r1 without lyca but that was not the case

[spiral rose]

Need a bigger eorin

[ebon cargo]

wdym? my 2000 naked eorin is OPTIMAL!!!

[spiral rose]

203e30 kills but just barely

With full t4 lol

[ebon cargo]

i don't even think he has gear reso on

yea he doesn't

[thick nova]

I think talene gear may be very important for R6. Mine is with t3-reso

[ebon cargo]

t3 reso

maybe in 2025

[mossy thistle]

does gear count in nightmare corridor?

[unkempt nebula]

if you click the info tab it'll say

[mossy thistle]

so i assume it does

[thick nova]

Yes

[noble wadi]

this is cheap-ish

[unkempt nebula]

requires palmer which 2 other bosses need

[noble wadi]

we getting new support in few days so 1 less

[spiral rose]

By the time I build it puppet is gone

Also need swolise on r6

[noble wadi]

he works at E probably

[west turret]

oh he's a support?

[spiral rose]

Many buffs

[west turret]

Guess he's gonna be a mandatory for NC

These new bosses are a support drain

[jade linden]

Let's see how far this falls once more people see the new R2 meta

[noble wadi]

Does it work without mauler buff tho

I dont think one time thing is a new meta

[jade linden]

yeah it's probably one time

[digital basalt]

New r2 meta you say?

[jade linden]

10s with kraken invests

it's a small upgrade over abel for krakens but for smaller accounts abel was only doing like 25s

[spiral rose]

Crappio finds a place for 1 week

[digital basalt]

11.9

[digital basalt]

My e67 isn’t wasted

[warped pagoda]

Just built 303e60 ASaf - what can I improve? Also plan to trial Wyca - what can I do with her?

[little skiff]

that’s a terrible r2 and r6 time lol

What happened sir

Souffle for r6
Worth putting Wolise palmer in there

[little skiff]

And for Lyca trial

If lyca + E Bert is + Waden is enough for kill you can put vei rem frontline r4 which I think would be about 10/15s less than what you are running

Or put Rem saf front and use vei for r5 which would help

[formal totem]

i wonder if E bert could work

[little skiff]

Prob not with what I was running but paired with vei or saf maybe

In any case lyca rem E Bert will kill that so that’s at least -30s on r2 and -30s on r6

[warped pagoda]

I haven’t really tried - just been satisfied with minimum tweaks to get my 6 kill and calling it a day 😅 I’ll try this cycle - thanks for all the suggestions, will play around with them and let you know how it goes!

[sleek sequoia]

show teams ples

[ebon cargo]

it's the same teams as before

I'm not even in t100 anymore though so..

[sleek sequoia]

i’m 98

[ebon cargo]

all i did was change the pet on scarlet team to fox

[sleek sequoia]

which

[sleek sequoia]

dw about it i’m in and out of t100 we at the point now where we just pray

[ebon cargo]

search images from me when i sent the win rate

[ebon cargo]

i think 7 teams is gonna redeem me :copium:

[sleek sequoia]

mf i want the teams for NC

[ebon cargo]

Ohhh lol i only got a 4 kill

Do you still want

[sleek sequoia]

yes

[ebon cargo]

here's the one you probably are looking for

soul hound: Emilia Rem Silas Twins Ezizh

the first 3 are what you expect

[sleek sequoia]

i haven’t tried much but i could only kill 2

show me t3

[ebon cargo]

which one is third

if it's the mask one, i used scarlet with a merc daemia

[sleek sequoia]

just show me lmao

[ebon cargo]

eorin mandatory in t1, lyca can probably be your athalia

if you change anything in the soul hound team it probably doesn't work

[sleek sequoia]

is soul hound rng? i got it to 4% just now when i tried

can still only kill 2 wtf

[ebon cargo]

i'm not saying every t1 uses eorin

but i know he doesn't have thane

[ebon cargo]

Yes

But also you have engravings on rem and emilia right?

[ebon cargo]

which one are you not killing now

[sleek sequoia]

yep both e4x

[ebon cargo]

and you have it in exactly this order?

[sleek sequoia]

managed to get 3 with rng but will need to buy more retries to kill soul hound

[sleek sequoia]

i’ll double check

[ebon cargo]

i realized i said the order wrong before lol but i don't think it's like the most important thing

i think i swapped what i remembered twins and ezizh were

[ebon cargo]

still good, cause this week's buff probably gonna be the easiest to get that 4kill quest imo

in other weeks, duskwailer might need a merc for shit players like us

i'm pretty far off getting that 4 in 240 quest tho

[sleek sequoia]

just did another 5 tries couldn’t get soul hound

[ebon cargo]

OH wait your seal isn't lv9 is it LMAO

please use a real pet instead of your lv7 seal

use owl, probably

[sleek sequoia]

yeah it is

got it 2 days ago

[ebon cargo]

is silas 3f? if he is the only thing i can think of is tree

[sleek sequoia]

what does ur tree look like? silas is 3f

[ebon cargo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

and gear

@sleek sequoia

the only other think i can think of is since i know you don't have t1 reso it may be the haste on Ezizh or something

[sleek sequoia]

how tf you got so much more stuff than me

you are older tho ig that’s it

[gentle sand]

damn 10s

[remote badger]

damn whale

[zinc leaf]

hey guys , should i get my trial Alyca now or tomorrow ? to get maximum use from her in tower , CR , NC ?

[crimson hearth]

how does ira not die here?

[noble wadi]

Palmer + naroko buffs

[modest nymph]

great feature guys

[sleek grove]

you dont have all the heroes they are using

[spiral rose]

Idk if that's better or worse than only seeing 5b hits

In CR that is

[steady fjord]

Mine always shows stuff but then just shows comps I can't remotely copy anyway

[steady fjord]

Ffs my R5 is worse with AwLyca trial than merc because Lib doesn't target trial

[balmy ice]

Swolise trial

In what year are you living sir

[lyric night]

[steady fjord]

Oh lmoa, mixed up AwLyca (trial) and AwSol (merc)

[eager glade]

F2P, Just for the record

[steady fjord]

Accidentally fixed it, now at 4min30 6 kill

[lyric night]

[modest nymph]

why is r1 even doing bad

[opaque flint]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-b5utSue_U&t=771s&ab_channel=AFKArenaF2PLife

maybe this helps

[modest nymph]

yuh that works

i’m gonna throw hands at lilith because i’m not even getting to use two of my awakened heroes now but it works

[opal veldt]

What invest does eorin need for first boss?

[modest nymph]

203e30 might maybe be good enough for a kill

[opal veldt]

Okay that’s the issue then. Need to build him some more just got him to 1*

No furn or engravings yet

[modest nymph]

okay have you actually tried him tho

i mean eventually youll wana 309 em anyways but if it works now ey

[opal veldt]

Yeah just trying now to get 4/5 kills. Prob gonna end up at around 4 if my rem team rng works out

3 it is even with aLyca trial the rng for that is too unreliable to get to 4 :/

[lyric night]

3m54s. 29% rn

[steady fjord]

I need to try that R2

Ok I saved like 23s doing that

Forgot how fast that no-Grez R3 was

[lyric night]

@dapper hemlock

[lyric night]

Glad it helped

[steady fjord]

@dapper hemlock Very consistent time (literally the exact same 3 hits in a row)

[dapper hemlock]

thanks I'll check this and what you sent above !

[lyric night]

Better than mine

[steady fjord]

That's my pb too, 4min6.82s

[steady fjord]

I've got 3 scam rounds that are faster than yours with lower beasts

[lyric night]

nc is weird. I’m not gonna waste any more diamonds on nc so it’s kinda whatever

[steady fjord]

It's only a tiny irrelevant time diff anyway

[lyric night]

Smol beast better than ugly big beasts

[steady fjord]

And they're prob because of actual invest/tree diffs

[lyric night]

I figured this kinda late but I heard CR round could improve much more if I emptied out tank tree and split it to others. I’ve never reset my tree so I was surprised

[steady fjord]

So either I'll have crazy times when I get 18s or they won't even improve

[lyric night]

18s

[steady fjord]

The tank reset is prob for Naro manip to get the Lib R1 to work

[steady fjord]

meant lvl18s

[lyric night]

Ohhhhh that’s what it’s about make sense

[lyric night]

lol

[dapper hemlock]

Game crashed

[lyric night]

[steady fjord]

I did get an 18s R2 with AwSaf merc tho

[dapper hemlock]

:I can't log in anymore

[lyric night]

Lvl 18 pet seems to be more useful for CR than NC

[lyric night]

[steady fjord]

But I save slightly more time mercing AwSol for R6

[dapper hemlock]

Wait I don't have 4G on my phone anymore

[steady fjord]

[lyric night]

I didn’t try the Awsaf. Maybe tried once. Prob should’ve attempted it (prob better than Trish)

But ur discord is working

[dapper hemlock]

the telephone operator is dead

discord is on the work computer

[lyric night]

…….

Phone service down?!

[dapper hemlock]

yup it seems

[steady fjord]

[lyric night]

[dapper hemlock]

at least I won't waste any more diamonds

[lyric night]

What bad timing ugh

Consider it a win I guess. I wasted diamonds on nc but didn’t improve rank….short on 2s

[steady fjord]

AwSaf merc prob 5-7s better than Trish

[lyric night]

I don’t wanna waste diamonds

[dapper hemlock]

I managed to get 6k but it was 15-20 sec more than what I did earlier this week with wyca trial

[steady fjord]

Actually hard to tell, because the 18s comp needs Dae which would ruin your R3

[dapper hemlock]

so I doubt I would have been able to improve anything

[steady fjord]

So it's probably a very small diff

[lyric night]

Good good not gonna try then

Saved diamonds for everyone

[steady fjord]

At best it'd only maybe be 1 reward tier anyway

[steady fjord]

When no Grez works vs when it fails

[dapper hemlock]

6k 4m6s

that's one min less than me

[steady fjord]

I was at 4min29 then I copied Farara's R2 to save the 23s

[dapper hemlock]

4m45 is still 26s less than mine

[lyric night]

Mine doesn’t even kill when it fails lol

[dapper hemlock]

pls gib phone service back

[lyric night]

I have a couple rounds with 4-5 kills lol

[steady fjord]

Peak is 2 or 3s faster

So nice how consistent NC is compared to CR

[lyric night]

Consistency….kill or no kill for me lol

[dapper hemlock]

No thane and my eorin clear seems broken now
naroko only m20
no waden
no wyca/antandra 309e3x
no oldlene 309exx

[steady fjord]

No Grez R3 can randomly fail but all my other rounds are consistent

[dapper hemlock]

how can I be missing that many units

[lyric night]

[steady fjord]

Ant is about the same time as Anasta there (like +/- 1s diff)

[lyric night]

My antandra just 309

[steady fjord]

AwLyca is trial, AwSol is my merc
You could try Vei R4 and Ant+Anasta R5

Tbh M30 Naroko would work there

[lyric night]

Phone service down soooo

[dapper hemlock]

I htink I'm around the same time with my R4 tbh so that's fine

I'm considering getting naroko si30, but might do Jerome before idk

[steady fjord]

You could try praying to the gods that it repairs faster, or downloading an emulator

[steady fjord]

They're both good

[dapper hemlock]

I won't download an emulator on my work computer

[lyric night]

I wouldn’t either

[dapper hemlock]

I mean 40% is still good ? ... right ?

[steady fjord]

No wifi for phone at work?

[dapper hemlock]

only for corporate phones

[steady fjord]

Ripp

[dapper hemlock]

don't have one yet

[lyric night]

Rippp

[dapper hemlock]

Still have 20min for it to come back up ig

[lyric night]

Don’t keep hope. Might as well call it a day. U have ur hits in for getting shop rewards right?

[dapper hemlock]

Yeah yeah I already got them on tuesday when I hit with trial

[lyric night]

[steady fjord]

Can't wait to have scuffed hits tomorrow with trial without seeing other people to copy

[lyric night]

lol I’m not sure should I try hitting tomorrow with trial awlyca

[dapper hemlock]

I'll have to deal with the last two NC bosses for another 5-6months

this is going to be painful

[steady fjord]

AwSaf works for R5 at least

[lyric night]

The 5th one is the worst for me…like nothing works

Barely get it under a min

[steady fjord]

Oh your issue for R5 is spooder

[dapper hemlock]

I got it to work but it was like 1m15 and r6 was 58sec soo that's not really good

[dapper hemlock]

yeah also, I'm using lvl0 spooder on my pb

[lyric night]

R6 can run L awsol?

[steady fjord]

Vei/Ant/Lib/AwSaf/Naro - spooder 12
Was about 55s

My R6 is ~53s with L AwSol

Heart has AwSol anyway

[lyric night]

With cupcake?

[steady fjord]

About the same time with lion 16, souffle 12 and deer 12

[lyric night]

Soufflé 15 does it

Don’t need all the way 18

Could consider for 15 after ur done with the 4 18s

[steady fjord]

Prob going to put Spooder on for 15 after I get Lion 18

That or Fox

Spooder 15 makes it TS viable, Fox 15 helps for CR

[lyric night]

Fox and spooder 15 def good

Let’s c how the next pet is before anything too

Cause pets seem to be all kinda meta

[steady fjord]

I'm still 7 off Lion 18 anyway

[lyric night]

I’m faaaar

Only 1 in

11 to go

[steady fjord]

Or if rng all falls on Owl, then that could be next

7 off Lion, 11 off Owl, 20 off Tali

[dapper hemlock]

lion will be your 2nd lvl18 pet ?

[lyric night]

Owl 18 is awesome

I got insane lucky drops on em

[steady fjord]

I just have them all on WL, so w/e reaches it first reaches it first

Not like I ever had a choice to trick anyway

[lyric night]

I had the same basically

But it kept on dropping owls sintead of the others

[dapper hemlock]

wdym ? you could have tricked lvl12

[lyric night]

I didn’t know about tricking when I got 12

[steady fjord]

I could have, but reso 12 has benefitted me a lot anyway.

[lyric night]

12 is rly milestone

[steady fjord]

I hit reso 12 on the 11th July, so it was quite a while ago now

[lyric night]

I do wanna trick 15 but not sure if it’ll happen. I needa finish spooder 15 by the time ships ends so

[dapper hemlock]

I've been advised to not activate reso 12 and work on spicing owl to 18 + take the other pet to 12 in the meantime

[steady fjord]

Imo, the differences are incredibly small because the costs/benefits are close to evening out

[lyric night]

I personally think taking seal to 18 is sufficient. 12 is really good

[dapper hemlock]

rn wl is owl spooder fox, working on owl 18 fox 12 and tricking with spooder

[lyric night]

[steady fjord]

I used Spooder to trick 1 copy of Seal, but it's so damn important for NC & makes a bunch of CR R1s more consistent

Smth like 4/6 CRs use R1 Spooder?

[lyric night]

That’s good cause seal op

Yeah and they kinda have high requirement for spooder no? Need at least 12?

Or does it work at 9?

[steady fjord]

Idk, I was reso 12 before spooder released

[dapper hemlock]

[lyric night]

Ur spooder is 9 heart or zero for tricking?

[steady fjord]

I did reso 12 instead of 18 rush

[balmy ice]

Spider needs 18

[lyric night]

[balmy ice]

Anything else is high rng

[dapper hemlock]

0

[dapper hemlock]

not everyone has reso18 u big whel

[lyric night]

Every pet needs 18 but can kinda work before maybe lol

[steady fjord]

I mean, spooder 12 is better rng than fire fatty 12

[lyric night]

Get higher dmg no doubt

I actually found eorin to do better instead of mishka this CR round but so high rng so I swapped back

[dapper hemlock]

Welp still no phone service

[lyric night]

Dmg different was like about a B+

Phone service down is sadddd

[spiral rose]

Eorin is the best budget boi

[balmy ice]

That's good to know, I only use spooder

[lyric night]

K I’m having trouble staying up. Gonna sleep for real this time. Gn friends~

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[spiral rose]

Nn

[dapper hemlock]

gn

[steady fjord]

Ffs, I was 0.8s off 23% NC

[spiral rose]

I would have need to cut 30 seconds to go up a reward tier lol

[steady fjord]

I fell out of 23% in the last 30mins
Pretty happy with nearly sub 4mins in the current meta tho (although kinda fake because trial)

[silent aurora]

nice

[regal thunder]

Only 3 killed

[silent aurora]

i killed 4

i couldnt kill the fifth boss as my lib was only 20130

but i just made my lib 20360

so i'll see how it goes next time

[thick nova]

Whale

[silent aurora]

nah got lucky with furn and had 4.5k cores saved

[noble wadi]

whale

[balmy ice]

whale

[weak wharf]

Whale

[thick nova]

Removed all furn and gear from lorsan and got 15s faster. Weird stuff

I suspect it puts talene ahead of lorsan in palmer blessing order

[drifting kayak]

Third boss budget celestials kill

[silent aurora]

@drifting kayak does ivan need 3030 i have him at m30 and will talene work at 303

[drifting kayak]

There is only one way to find out

[ebon cargo]

Is anyone else favorite mode nc

[spiral rose]

TS > NC> CR for me

Cr would be higher if I could get better rewards lol

[ebon cargo]

I like ts for the rewards but being 0.1% is offensive

NC i like that it's not copying comps

[spiral rose]

isn't it?

[ebon cargo]

I don't like CR because in NC i can read the boss skills to see what might work, CR is just throwing shit at the wall and it doesn't work

[ebon cargo]

not when you are trying to get N kill where N<6

[spiral rose]

both are copying comps + filling what you don't have for me

[ebon cargo]

the thing is i can get 4 nc kills but i can't get anywhere close to 4 good cr rounds

and nc doesn't change every week like cr so its more approachable

[unkempt nebula]

nah man nc changes every month but cr is always the same

[spiral rose]

I think even less approachable, CR is always the same rotations, NC has a new boss every month

CR is just harder bc global leaderboard

[ebon cargo]

yeah but i have to learn like 6 rotations all at once instead of one rotation that changes a bit monthly

[spiral rose]

and most of NC's rewards are tied to boss kills and not leaderboard to begin with

[ebon cargo]

also this

[spiral rose]

"a bit" meaning brand new boss that shakes up every round usually lol

CR is the better mode imo, except for the global leaderboard which kills all my interest

[unkempt nebula]

all at once? you only have to learn one a week lol

[ebon cargo]

basically i don't like CR because it's not bosses so i don't have an intuitive understanding of what could work

lol

in other words i don't like it because i'm bad at it and i don't know how to get better

[spiral rose]

well yeah, you will learn more tho over time

idk why shit works in NC either but it's "easier"

[ebon cargo]

also in NC you get feedback in the form of successful kills

CR you see your damage yes but there's not as much of knowing what an achievable goal is

[spiral rose]

i just hate the boss design with the new ones

especially puppet, fuck this boss

[ebon cargo]

I am fine with everything except puppet

I actually think the light martyr is cool and bringing old heroes back to relevance is great

[spiral rose]

meh, i don't like needing one specific hero, or having to stack like every good support into the roudn just to kill

[ebon cargo]

Hound is aight cause they gave everyone a free ezizh

[spiral rose]

i have the same problem with hound, new player have to tg a copy which will hurt them.

and then it's only here for 6 months total with who knows how long before it rotates around

[ebon cargo]

I feel like by the time someone who started after the ezizh event unlocks NC

[spiral rose]

basically investing in NC feels like shit bc the bosses rotate out

[ebon cargo]

the hound will be gone

[spiral rose]

like all the crappio enjoyer now have a useless hero

only comes out on mauler buffs now

[silent aurora]

he might be useful on other bosses who knows

[ebon cargo]

i'm sure he will be good again

eorin still isn't dead

[spiral rose]

only bc he's in like one CR round lol

and as a budget option

basically investing in NC is a crapshoot, you invest for 6 months to improve the worst leaderboard out of the 3 modes, and then pray the hero sees relevance elsewhere

[thick nova]

Joux is a whale . Budget options are as good as dead to him

[spiral rose]

no I love eorin because he's a budget option, I still use him to kill r1 lol

after this month, he's dead tho unless next boss uses him

[ebon cargo]

has cr really never changed?

[spiral rose]

nope, always same 6 rounds

the meta changes a lot with new heros ofc

[thick nova]

He'll be budget option at least in masked and hound

[ebon cargo]

i see

[spiral rose]

mm maybe mask, i don't need for hound since I have saf

[ebon cargo]

i just felt like it was hard because i have to learn 6 rotations lol

big initial investment

and no one talks about cr budget comps as far as i have seen

[spiral rose]

investing is a lot more stable as long as you are doing it wisely, and not investing in heros on the edge of relevance that will be dead by the time you are placing well in CR

[ebon cargo]

from a content perspective i think it's fun to have a new boss every month though

it's just that the new bosses are too hard

imo they should consider bringing back old bosses, like why do we have to keep 5 and change 1, why not have the new boss + 5 selected from the overall pool

[thick nova]

Cr is way worse rng-wise.

Most NC comps are relatively stable, unless you are in the sub-30s range

[spiral rose]

lilith CS told me they will rotate old bosses in, but didn't say when and CS can be unreliable at best

[thick nova]

I wish they would bring back dark Arden for old times sake. Maybe a commemorative event

[ebon cargo]

lilith cs also said gen never garrison

[spiral rose]

the rng of arden TR was insane lol

[spiral rose]

no, they said "we have no plans for that at the moment"

[ebon cargo]

i see

[spiral rose]

and it took like 6 months after that to come out

[thick nova]

Witcher being a big IP, the long delay may have been part of the deal

[spiral rose]

well, the pattern is just whenever a collab event finishes, the last ones come out

of course, that's not a very long pattern cause there haven't been too many collabs since garrison released lol