So I created my first barebones OS Witten in assembly

[tough thunder]

Let's see how this goes

Starting in asm and using your own bootloader is only good for learning

[open sand]

Here's some advice for you.

• Don't use AI, if you don't know how you build an OS in the first place, relying on ChatGPT will only make it worse.
• Secondly, never commit build files. This is standard practice.
• We strongly advice not using your own bootloader, use something like Limine instead.

[tough thunder]

Planning to say the exact same

For an 'ACTUAL' is, this is already a bad start

Youre not targeting uefi

@open sand It have GCC and makefile my friend

[sick rock]

i think i have heard these words before

[tough thunder]

Really?

[sick rock]

or no

[stark shard]

.gitignore makes commiting build files reasy easy too

[sick rock]

but sounds familiar

; Terminal prompts for different directories
prompt_root db 'root@thinkos:/ ] ', 0
prompt_home db 'root@thinkos:/home ] ', 0
prompt_docs db 'root@thinkos:/docs ] ', 0
prompt_src db 'root@thinkos:/src ] ', 0
prompt_bin db 'root@thinkos:/bin ] ', 0

i am not an asm dev is this normal

[tough thunder]

Wth is this

[sick rock]

his code

stage2.asm lines 3377

also he has an incredibly large stage2 file

[tough thunder]

Its what's you think it is s

[tough thunder]

Its an entire os

Within

A single file

[sick rock]

i know

[stark shard]

i dont think we should clown on the kid

[tough thunder]

And no, its not, its what you think it is, hardcoded directories

[sick rock]

true, but still

[stark shard]

still we shouldnt clown on somone who is trying and give at least constructive advice esp to sombody who apears to be younger?

[sick rock]

well he surely isnt younger than me

[stark shard]

i have seen several osdev projects almost exactly like this and its strange how similar they are at times. I can go in more details in another time but im inclined to be nice to these people

[sick rock]

just i feel that i have seen this thread title before, with the same spelling mistake

but from another author

maybe im hallucinating

ah yes i am hallucinating

sorry

[tough thunder]

there isnt anything too wrong about the code

its just full of bad habits

[stark shard]

which can be fixed easily for the most part

[tough thunder]

hope so

[sick rock]

there is some hardcoding, but pretty easy to fix

; Files in /home
file_bashrc db '.bashrc', 13, 10, 0
file_profile db '.profile', 13, 10, 0

; Files in /docs
file_readme db 'README.txt', 13, 10, 0
file_manual db 'MANUAL.txt', 13, 10, 0
file_readme_name db 'README.txt', 0
file_manual_name db 'MANUAL.txt', 0

[tough thunder]

yeah, and its an os-in-kernel

plus a bit misleading

[stark shard]

but still can be fixed

good on the person for getting started and making this

im proud of them

[tough thunder]

but actually appears more feature-rich than my kernel

[sick rock]

he is probably a beginner, and getting that much progress on making a bootloader and a mostly good kernel is insane

[tough thunder]

right, he also made an os simulator PoC

in python

[sick rock]

also assembelly

[tough thunder]

and 'ACTUAL' is a bold claim

[sick rock]

; File contents
content_readme db '=== THINK OS README ===', 13, 10, 'Welcome to Think OS v1.3.0!', 13, 10, 'A complete OS with filesystem.', 13, 10, 13, 10, 0
content_manual db '=== USER MANUAL ===', 13, 10, 'Commands: ls, cd, pwd, cat', 13, 10, 'GCC: gcc filename.c', 13, 10, 13, 10, 0
content_hello_c db '#include <stdio.h>', 13, 10, 'int main() {', 13, 10, '  printf("Hello World!");', 13, 10, '  return 0;', 13, 10, '}', 13, 10, 0

[tough thunder]

it have gcc and makefiles btw

wonder if it runs on real hw

[sick rock]

yeah but apparently they do nothing

[sick rock]

i have my 2004 laptop

[tough thunder]

im actually willing to test but my motherboard just doesnt like CSM

[tough thunder]

should work

this project have some in common with another project i think which is a single file kernel shell

[open sand]

im pretty sure he hasnt ported gcc lol

[tough thunder]

its just a fancy makeup

[open sand]

well i dislike AI stuff.

[stark shard]

was this AI

[tough thunder]

likely

[open sand]

100%

[stark shard]

damn

[tough thunder]

dont explicitly hate it, just use it in a way that helps you

Linus vibes code now

(not in a way you think)

[open sand]

And that way is not AI generating a whole OS.

[tough thunder]

yup

[open sand]

Why should I praise someone for prompting?

There's surely better servers for that than this server.

[tough thunder]

definitely one for generating slop images

[sick rock]

why does he have more software ported than me??

; Filesystem commands
cmd_ls db 'LS', 0
cmd_cd db 'CD', 0
cmd_pwd db 'PWD', 0
cmd_mkdir db 'MKDIR', 0
cmd_touch db 'TOUCH', 0
cmd_rm db 'RM', 0
cmd_cat db 'CAT', 0
cmd_gcc db 'GCC', 0
cmd_make db 'MAKE', 0
cmd_vim db 'VIM', 0
cmd_edit db 'EDIT', 0
cmd_clear db 'CLEAR', 0
cmd_echo db 'ECHO', 0
cmd_date db 'DATE', 0
cmd_uname db 'UNAME', 0
cmd_whoami db 'WHOAMI', 0

[open sand]

nothing is ported.

nothing is real

[sick rock]

ik its irony

[sick rock]

; Files in /src
file_hello_c db 'hello.c', 13, 10, 0
file_main_c db 'main.c', 13, 10, 0
file_makefile db 'Makefile', 13, 10, 0
file_hello_c_name db 'hello.c', 0
file_main_c_name db 'main.c', 0

[glacial cobalt]

what

[sick rock]

i understand your confusion

its his filesystem code

[glacial cobalt]

they make no sense

[sick rock]

nothing makes sense in this thread lol

; File contents
content_readme db '=== THINK OS README ===', 13, 10, 'Welcome to Think OS v1.3.0!', 13, 10, 'A complete OS with filesystem.', 13, 10, 13, 10, 0
content_manual db '=== USER MANUAL ===', 13, 10, 'Commands: ls, cd, pwd, cat', 13, 10, 'GCC: gcc filename.c', 13, 10, 13, 10, 0
content_hello_c db '#include <stdio.h>', 13, 10, 'int main() {', 13, 10, '  printf("Hello World!");', 13, 10, '  return 0;', 13, 10, '}', 13, 10, 0

[glacial cobalt]

i haven't read it all

[glacial cobalt]

what the fuck

[sick rock]

its a complete os with a filesystem

[glacial cobalt]

"filesystem"

[tough thunder]

it actually does have a ramfs

[open sand]

dw its AI generated.

[tough thunder]

its just hardcoded initrd

[sick rock]

the os is just a big pile of if else statements but in assembly

[tough thunder]

yeah....

[sick rock]

still a lot of effort put into prompting

[tough thunder]

a lot of tokens wasted

[mortal beacon]

Yeah, I agree. Don't throw stones, especially if your house is made out of glass.

[stark shard]

unless your glass house has a machine gun turret mounted at the top /s /ref

[tough thunder]

this project should be made into a 'how not to make an os'

[sick rock]

ChetGPF

[gaunt plume]

I Didnt use AI?

[gaunt plume]

Well it’s my first time kinda

[tough thunder]

what?

[gaunt plume]

Yea I didn’t

[open sand]

💀

[gaunt plume]

Why does everyone keep saying it’s ai?

[tough thunder]

no way

[gaunt plume]

Oh yea I haven’t been here in a while cause of exams

So this is kinda like my free day off in a while

[open sand]

"not AI"

[tough thunder]

the stage2 is CLEARLY

ai

though dont be ashamed (though you should be). learn from it

[open sand]

• Overly use of comments in some parts, none in others.
• Really long variable names.
• AI like code.
• I know AI code when I see it.

[tough thunder]

but not tell it to make

[gaunt plume]

I’ll try to do better to not use ai

I made a mistake

[tough thunder]

and the coding style

[gaunt plume]

I’m sorry

I have no excuse

[tough thunder]

did you do this in one go or?

[gaunt plume]

Only this one

[open sand]

Personally, the worst part is trying to fool us into beliving its handmade.

[gaunt plume]

For porting my old project

[gaunt plume]

I’m sorry

Genuinely

I’ll take down and start from scratch

[tough thunder]

just speechless at this point

[gaunt plume]

Without AI

Have y’all a nice day

[tough thunder]

i dont discourage ai

i mean if you hate reading docs

then just tell it to explain to you

theres nothing wrong with that

in fact thats more efficient than reading from osdev wiki trying to understand some kind of black magic

especially if you are a beginner

[gaunt plume]

Ok

Thanks

I really appreciate it

Time to close this post

And make what’s right

[stark shard]

It can also be good for boilerplate and other crap

Just like make sure you understand the code

[tough thunder]

fact

[stark shard]

And don’t use it for the entire thing

[gaunt plume]

Thanks

[stark shard]

Like it’s really good at basic things you CBA to Google on stackoverflow or whatever

[gaunt plume]

I’ll start from scratch

And actually try

And learn

[tough thunder]

though personally i think ai is somewhat better for webdev than sth like osdev

[stark shard]

Like oh what’s the thing for a for loop if you haven’t touched the language in a hot moment etc

[gaunt plume]

I really thank y’all for the advice

Have a nice day I gtg

Bye

[stark shard]

Keep the channel open

[gaunt plume]

Ok

[stark shard]

We can help you in your next one

.!tag limine

[slim bough]

limine

https://codeberg.org/Limine/limine-c-template

[gaunt plume]

Thanks

[stark shard]

This would be a decent start

[gaunt plume]

Ok

[gaunt plume]

Not entirely, recently because of my exams I couldn’t work on it hard enough, so I used ai. Looking back on it I don’t know what the hell i was thinking. I should’ve learned instead of copying and pasting. I genuinely feel regret for this.

[gaunt plume]

I made a mascot of think OS and HBREW, I’m thinking of adding him to the neofetch

His name is flux

[open sand]

How old ru?

[glacial cobalt]

according to his bio,

[gaunt plume]

A minor

[gaunt plume]

Also this

[open sand]

I dont read peoples bios.

[open sand]

It's just that I think the painting looks like its made by a 10 year old lol. (no offense)

[gaunt plume]

Ah, it’s ight. It’s not a painting but a drawing

[sick rock]

maybe he just has bad drawing skills, why refer to age immediately?

[open sand]

Text.

Not the painting itself

I also suck at drawing

[restive berry]

under 18 but above 13 right?

[open sand]

That's why I'm asking lol

[sick rock]

ah text

that one is true

[gaunt plume]

Yep

[restive berry]

you safe

[tough thunder]

yeah, if he says hes under that would immediately violate discord tos

though the hand writing is insane

[gaunt plume]

Many people tell me that

[stark shard]

To be fair I haven’t used a pencil in fucking ages so mine may not be that much better

I dont even know where a pen is rn