*VoidFrame
#AeroSync, A real hardware-capable monolithic kernel for x86_64 CPUs
ionic helm
heavy haven
and whats macho and aeot
ionic helm
it is
ionic helm
and whats macho and aeot
*aout sorry, aout is the legacy linux format (before elf!), you can find it on very early versions of slackware
macho is the macos format
*mach-o to be precise
heavy haven
oh wow
ionic helm
ok ASIC (AeroSync Init Chain) is implemented
now just the integration part
# cmdline args
> this contains all the cmdline fields and their descriptions (im trying to keep this up-to-date as possible but most of the time im too lazy lmfao)
- `quiet`: disable all output (still lives in buffer)
- `verbose`: enable verbose output
- `mtest`: do memory tests (depends on CONFIG_INCLUDE_MM_TEST)
- `rcutest`: do rcu, percpu tests (depends on CONFIG_RCU_PERCPU_TEST)
- `dumpdevtree`: dump the device tree
- `nosmp`: disable SMP (depends on CONFIG_SYMETRIC_MP)
- `initrd=VAL`: VAL is path to initrd
- `initrd_debug`: enable detailed logging of initramfs record discovery
- `bootinfo`: display some limine boot info
- `kaslrinfo`: logs kernel base
- `mm_page_lvl`: log cmdline
- `fwinfo`: log info from smbios
- `acpi_enum`: enumerate and log acpi bus
- `vfstest`: run vfs tests (depends on CONFIG_VFS_TESTS)
- `disable-mm-scrubber`: disable mm_scrubberd thread (depends on MM_HARDENING)
- `init=VAL`: VAL is path to init process (absolute path in initrd)
- `font=FONT`: choose builtin font to load (e.g. "font=VGA8x16", "font=SUN12x22", see lib/fonts for more details)
some cmdline args update
ionic helm
oh very close to 3K msg
forest epoch
is it now? most of world services on servers run on virtualization platforms...
ionic helm
is it now? most of world services on servers run on virtualization platforms...
im sorry, but an 'emulated' os here, in this context is an os that can only run on sth like qemu and not any real hw
so...
ionic helm
is it now? most of world services on servers run on virtualization platforms...
though yes
forest epoch
I get your point, totally do, since I'm too building something that runs on actual hardware. But I started purely supporting VirtIO which any modern enterprise hypervisor like Proxmox supports, there's none to totally ignorable latency because VirtIO is just that good.
ionic helm
I get your point, totally do, since I'm too building something that runs on actu...
yeah
thats why vmware/vbox guest tools exist (and virtio drivers)
to accelerate the performance in a virtualized environment
forest epoch
But this is just something I'm quite finicky about hahahaha your project is great man
ionic helm
But this is just something I'm quite finicky about hahahaha your project is grea...
oh yeah, tysm
and ty for the reactions
forest epoch
You're also using Limine! Just saw it 😄 Limine FTW!
ionic helm
You're also using Limine! Just saw it 😄 Limine FTW!
yes, limine forever
ionic helm
maybe i should cook up a guide on how to use acpica for your kernel
neat tulip
Yeah but the 24H2 scheme makes sense. It was released in the second half of 2024
latent hollow
It's generally not considered wise to outsource your thinking to an LLM.
ionic helm
ezxml 👍
ionic helm
[0] [ 1.433982] [aerosync::core::panic] [--------------------------------------------------------------------------------]
[0] [ 1.434470] [aerosync::core::panic] AeroSync panic
[0] [ 1.434816] [aerosync::core::panic] [--------------------------------------------------------------------------------]
[0] [ 1.435333] [aerosync::core::panic] Reason: Exception General Protection Fault (0xd), Error Code: 0x0 General Protection Fault
[0] [ 1.435849] [aerosync::core::panic] System State:
[0] [ 1.436069] [aerosync::core::panic] Kernel Version : r0c4.hardened - 5.4.9-Integration+branch.deceefd-dirty.dev+abi.0
[--------------------------------------------------------------------------------]
[0] [ 1.437781] [aerosync::core::panic] RAX: 0000000000000500 RBX: ffff96a73e54d000 RCX: deadbeefcafebabe
[0] [ 1.438211] [aerosync::core::panic] RDX: ffff96a73e546e10 RSI: ffffffffe442d6b2 RDI: ffff96a73e550000
[0] [ 1.438638] [aerosync::core::panic] RBP: ffff96a73e546e80 R8 : ffffffffe4397220 R9 : ffff96a73e546e10
[0] [ 1.439065] [aerosync::core::panic] R10: ffffffffe4440d68 R11: ffffffffe44d3890 R12: ffff96a73e421a80
[0] [ 1.439496] [aerosync::core::panic] R13: ffffffffe44eab80 R14: 0000000000000000 R15: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[0] [ 1.439924] [aerosync::core::panic] RIP: ffffffffe4397ad7 RSP: ffff96a73e546e00 RFLAGS: 00010046
[0] [ 1.441309] [aerosync::core::stacktrace] Call Trace (Unwinding from RBP: ffff96a73e546e80):
[0] [ 1.441691] [aerosync::core::stacktrace] [<ffffffffe4397ad7>] drm_console_init+0x637
[0] [ 1.442054] [aerosync::core::stacktrace] [<ffffffffe437e1f8>] printk_auto_configure+0x1f8
[0] [ 1.442438] [aerosync::core::stacktrace] [<ffffffffe43258f9>] start_kernel+0xc8f9
[0] [ 1.442822] [aerosync::core::panic] [--------------------------------------------------------------------------------]
all that for a single unitialized variable
heavy haven
use rust 
ionic helm
use rust <:troll:796858892985434152>
too late
latent hollow
have you considered relying less on LLMs :^)
ionic helm
have you considered relying less on LLMs :^)
i dont really know, i just find myself ending up using llms 😭
blame me if its bad
dusky reef
i mean at 200k loc i expect a production grade kernel
meager atlas
200k 
dusky reef
the entirety of serenity os is less than that and it includes literally an os and a web browser
meager atlas
200k <:flobsh:779731076755095553>
what does this os even do anywat
if it doesnt have a userspace atp just rewrite from scratch
dusky reef
to make it clear
its completely fine to use ai in osdev
but the scope has to be tiny and limited
not "implement kcompactd"
or i dont even know what prompts you give it that create 200k loc
meager atlas
or i dont even know what prompts you give it that create 200k loc
what does this os even do though
maybe 200k is deserved magically somehow
dusky reef
as far as i can tell not much
meager atlas
as far as i can tell not much
beuhb
normal pebble
i dont really know, i just find myself ending up using llms 😭
Simple fix: Cancel all your llm subscription
round zenith
holy slop
hot swift
heavy haven
11 4.62.72.6.152.7623-hotfix52.1 r0c14 release2 25.15 wip6.1 hardened62 24c1
least confusing version name
ruby arrow
i mean at 200k loc i expect a production grade kernel
SLOC Directory SLOC-by-Language (Sorted)
114888 src ansic=114888
28979 include ansic=28979
23206 modules ansic=23206
Totals grouped by language (dominant language first):
ansic: 167073 (100.00%)
im not far off, but this does include some third party libs: musl, medtls, zlib, stb_image, dr_flac, stb_vorbis, flanterm and minimp3
is it production grade? depends on your interpretation of the word "production" as it isnt made for desktop use
dusky reef
- You literally included musl, 2. This includes userspace, I was talking about kernel only code
ruby arrow
these are all kernel space in my kernel 
dusky reef
ruby arrow
theyre all directly or indirectly available to basic
and yeah some of them took quite some effort to play nice
dusky reef
Your kernel is probably 1/10 of that
ruby arrow
hmm, i bet i can exclude those deps and give an accurate count
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Language files blank comment code
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C 149 6229 3978 38411
C/C++ Header 134 3219 20690 10545
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SUM: 283 9448 24668 48956
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
about 49k
dusky reef
Yea
ruby arrow
it seems a bit low
i think i excluded too much
because it says 283 files but find lists about 350
nah its right, and the biggest dependency is mbedtls, by far, like 100,000 lines of code
if youre curious, 3098 lines of "userland" 😉
dusky reef
Makes sense
heavy haven
vi is also working
vi from busybox
im currently porting ncurses so that vim would work
ionic helm
wiki.osdev.org is down?
normal pebble
wiki.osdev.org is down?
I think the server is down
Because my browser can't connect to it
ionic helm
I think the server is down
i also recently install macos
and went back to fedora not long after
normal pebble
i also recently install macos
Cool
normal pebble
and went back to fedora not long after
based af
normal pebble
though i was late to know that macos is more "true" unix than linux
It's BSD based isn't it?
ionic helm
It's BSD based isn't it?
and also a direct descendant of UNIX (iirc, at&t v4)
normal pebble
its also mach
ig
normal pebble
and also a direct descendant of UNIX (iirc, at&t v4)
oh
ionic helm
oh
also SUS-compatible
(Single UNIX Specification)
so basically you pay a company to test your os and confirms it is compliant with the standards
which linux initially doesnt got that kind of money
but apple does
bruh i spent 15 minutes trying to figure out why it wasnt compiling the toolchain binaries
just to realize that i compiled coreutils instead of binutils
ionic helm
so after i switched to using a hackintosh
i abandoned the project ever since
but new build system changes has been made
(mostly due to the fact that i accidently format the drive with APFS normal version instead of the case-sensitive one)
and it now can compile on macos
very cool