Binbows 95

[main tulip]

Contributions are also welcomed

[quasi wind]

if its binbows 95, will you be building it on top of ms-bos?

[covert rock]

be like Windows 95 in what sense?

there are some great themes for certain Linux DEs that look just like Windows 95

[sturdy wedge]

its kinda unlikely people will contribute to a kernel shell

[quasi wind]

make it do something unique and they might

[main tulip]

no i want somethings thats not linux

[main tulip]

its gonna be able to use pe and its going to have a setup like windows 95

[main tulip]

that would be funny but no

[covert rock]

Will it be able to run Win32 apps?

[main tulip]

yes

[covert rock]

and why is the setup so important?

[main tulip]

its not

im just saying i want the setup to be like windows 95

[main tulip]

its just there to play around with stuff

[sturdy wedge]

What kind of setup?

[sturdy wedge]

Yeah looks like a kernel shell

[main tulip]

i just gave you the reason

when i get userspace it will just be an application

[sturdy wedge]

Sure sure

[main tulip]

bro

have some faith in me

im 14 and have only done osdev for a couple months

[sturdy wedge]

I didn't mean it in sarcastic way

[main tulip]

sure looked like it

[sturdy wedge]

Oh well

I was mostly saying contributors come when there's interesting stuff

[main tulip]

there will be interesting stuff if i cna get help

can dont be one of those people who say "dont ask people to make it for you"

cause thats not what i want

[sturdy wedge]

Why would people make your os interesting instead of their own?

[main tulip]

fair enough

im trying my best though

[sturdy wedge]

That's good, you're on the right path then

[main tulip]

how do you suppose i make a userspace shell

[sturdy wedge]

You port cmd.exe since this is windows 95

Or well not port, rather cp it

[main tulip]

its not gonna be exactly like win95

i just want something like it

not everything has to be the same

[sturdy wedge]

Well you said its gonna run win32 apps

You can code your own cmd.exe

[main tulip]

i ned to figure out pe

[sturdy wedge]

Its pretty simple and has tons of official docs

So should be fine

[main tulip]

alright

dumb question but could you tell me the steps of parsing an executable file

unless if there is something on the osdev wiki you dont have to

[sturdy wedge]

Ehh well the file is just some structs at some offsets you read that give you the offsets to load from the file into memory

Then you just do as they tell you plus apply relocations also listed in structs

[main tulip]

this is one of those things that will take me a while to figure out

[sturdy wedge]

Then jump to the entrypoint address

You can parse it in userspace of your host os

To get a feel of how it works

[main tulip]

alright so i guess ill print out the contents of an exe and figure out how to parse everything

[sturdy wedge]

Yep

[main tulip]

alright thanks for the tip

[sturdy wedge]

Np

[covert rock]

if you want contributors, you need a track record of making interesting stuff on your own first
or a track record of meaningfully contributing to existing projects

[covert rock]

well, then maybe pick something more achievable than implementing Win32

which for e.g. Wine and ReactOS is still an ongoing process despite decades of work by hundreds of people

[main tulip]

Is it possible to still have executable pe without copying the win32 api

[covert rock]

yes

PE is the easy part

[main tulip]

Alright

[main tulip]

now reading it i think ill do elf64 first to see if its any simpler