XWillOS

[glacial grove]

not open source?

[alpine portal]

Not yet, because I still need to learn the requirements to create an operating system. C programming, assembly, etc.

[frosty sky]

you know any languages already?

[frank igloo]

they prob dont

[frosty sky]

fair

[frank igloo]

u know how to make an os?

[frosty sky]

kind of

not much good at it but i do it for fun

my only experience in programming other than OSDev is messing with C# for about a year doing basically nothing, im certainly not the most experienced

but i enjoy it

[blissful silo]

there's a lot of (actually, I would say most) people here who are figuring things out - its nice to share your progress, and is helpful for others to look at your code if you're asking for help.

[alpine portal]

JavaScript, Python, Swift. I want to learn C, because it kind of forces you to understand low-level stuff.

[glad mantle]

Yeah you can’t really do anything in an OSdev context without a deep knowledge and fluency in C or C++ and assembly

Or Rust or Go or Zig if you’re one of those people

But trust me just do C. It’ll save you alot of pain later.

In an OSdev context, C and C++ basically do the same thing, just avoid lots of layers of inheritance in C++ because it can get messy and accept that the performance will be slightly worse for some things in C++

[glad mantle]

Also please don’t be stupid and try to use a LLM for everything because they are genuinely going to waste more time than actually just learning the stuff because actual good tutorials for OSdev don’t exist anywhere so you kinda just have to learn shit through documentation/experience

[frosty sky]

i can back this

i was (and still am) shit at C so i tried to use LLMs, resulted in a mess of shitty unfunctioning code

[alpine portal]

I am on an LLM detox for around 6 months now. Learned a lot because of it. I use AI for nothing.

[glad mantle]

It doesn't necessarily teach you low level stuff btw

[thorn bolt]

not to be mean but it should not be allowed to post OSes here before any work has been done on them

just my opinion

[glad mantle]

Real as hell

[obsidian vortex]

honestly yeah

[frank igloo]

yh cuz the os doesnt exist

[alpine portal]

It is called "progress report". I want to share progress from the start. Not sure what is wrong with that.

[glad mantle]

Because there hasn’t been any progress

I think you should at least be able to boot to VGA text mode and print some characters and initialize the GDT at LEAST 😭😭

By the time I posted mine I had a fully functional temporary file system and a bunch of other stuff

[frank igloo]

lma

[glad mantle]

😭

[glad mantle]

Hey man you’re right but you said you don’t even know how to program in anything but extremely high level languages and if you’re gonna make an OS you are FARRR from doing that 😭

Like bro there is no “printf” or whatever equivalent in OSdev

There is no memcpy

You gotta make a lot of that shit yourself

And the main thing about C is managing memory and if you don’t do that well you’re gonna have a very bad time

[grim star]

it's kinda depressing reading thru this thread, dog piling on this newcomer, like, they've gotta learn one way or another. like, fair enough to give them warning, but it doesn't seem helpful or constructive.

i'd like to see the progress on this os, even if it is only a concept at the moment. it takes time to learn and build projects.

[alpine portal]

I can learn that. That is what I am currently working on.

Can we be a constructive community? It seems like the purpose of your messages is to stop newcomers from entering this field. That is counterproductive to be honest. We need new and young developers in this field who are inexperienced for os development to survive. Dog piling on newbies is a really dumb decision.

[alpine portal]

I can learn and become good at C. If you read the previous messages, you will understand that I know os development is hard and I am aware of the requirements, that is what I am currently focusing on.

[frank igloo]

exactly

[thorn bolt]

I am hesitant to create a progress report thread for my os which has multi tasking, smp, a basic libc and some other stuff yet you make one for a non-existent kernel...

This community is very constructive. Newcomers are welcomed imo and they can receive a lot of help (obv there are some people - whom I wont name - who act as if this is stack overflow)

its just that its basically pointless and annoying to spam progress report with projects that do basically nothing

[alpine portal]

Fine.

[thorn bolt]

<@&1336888560988586034> can you just delete this

the guy even left the server lol