Nyaux

[surreal path]

something

[orchid dawn]

now implement /proc/cpuinfo and /proc/meminfo so it can give more info

[surreal path]

maybe soon

now hard links arent documented in ustar (at least in the wiki page) so im gonna have to fuck around and find out to figure out how ustar gives the information about hard links to me

https://tenor.com/view/fafo-findout-fuckaround-fuckaroundandfindout-you-gif-26826252

[brisk zenith]

I believe they're represented the same as symlinks, just with a different type code

But I wouldn't be surprised if most archiving tools don't bother detecting them and instead just archive them as if they're regular files

[ebon needle]

isn't hard link is just full path

[edgy pilot]

I treat hard links as normal vnodes that share resources with other vnodes

for symlinks, I just store a path in each vnode and resolve on lookup

[median goblet]

How would you detect hard links with tar

Other than checking the inode entry in the dirent (unreliable potentially)

Or checking the content of the file

[brisk zenith]

stat the file, if you've encountered (st_dev,st_ino) before it's a hard link to that file

[median goblet]

So this

[brisk zenith]

that's not unreliable

[median goblet]

Except not via the dirent

[brisk zenith]

posix guarantees this works

[median goblet]

Oh

Neat

[brisk zenith]

(st_dev,st_ino) must be unique for every inode in the system

seems like gnu tar actually does do this, neat

and yeah hard links have a type code of '1' and a linkname pointing to the target

[kind root]

thats softlink

u can think of hardlink as a shared pointer, and a softlink like a weak pointer

[ebon needle]

a

[gray hill]

yeah, on windows there are just files with the link into them as text

at least, that's how mine reads it

[brisk zenith]

that's completely separate from fs-level links, whether symlinks or hard links

[gray hill]

i think it's a compat layer then

[brisk zenith]

unless you're not talking about windows explorer shortcuts? because those are just regular files recognized by explorer as shortcuts

[gray hill]

no, i created a symlink on wsl

[brisk zenith]

ah yeah

[gray hill]

and windows reads it as a text file with the link inside it

[brisk zenith]

strange that windows shows that as a regular file, it has full symlink support

but that is basically how symlinks are represented internally on disk

[kind root]

thats just how they're exposed over 9p i guess

[unkempt relic]

they're using 9p2000.l which is basically 9p with plan9 stripped out and replaced with externalised representation of linux vfs ops instead, so it should accurately convey symlinks

[median goblet]

on ext2/3/4 that's literally what they are. files with the link in them as text and a special inode type

[median goblet]

i guess translating to/from win32 paths is Too Hard for them

[surreal path]

is tar giving me this correct?

also how can i reclaim limine bootloader memory exactly?

since i no longer need the module in memory

it would be a huge memory footprint save

[surreal path]

im so confused if this is even correct or not

[flat nymph]

Modules do not count towards bootloader reclaimable?

afaik

[surreal path]

:c

[flat nymph]

otherwise, my kernel just takes ownership of them

and treats it as memory that has been allocated normally throught pmm

[flat nymph]

?

[surreal path]

nothing

[surreal path]

do these look fine at all

or are they wrong

idk how to check to make sure

[surreal path]

im silly inside

https://tenor.com/view/garb-awesomepikmin2-silly-kirby-cute-gif-25259731

fastfetch still wont display the logo

dies

maybe if i get hard links working itll work

well

at least it got the kernel

i put 1.0 cause i dunno what release i am

[ionic musk]

1.1-120525-2fdfge-d3f4gd I think

[surreal path]

should nyaux have a seperate kernel name

[ionic musk]

NyauKs

[surreal path]

nah that sounds stupid

[ionic musk]

NyauxK

kNyaux

[crystal scarab]

nya

[frigid cliff]

Nya~✨

Also aren’t images hardcoded in the fast fetch code?

[surreal path]

no

[frigid cliff]

Oh

Where does it get them then?

[surreal path]

from a bunch of files in logos/ascii

[frigid cliff]

That’s sort of what I meant

I guess it’s not exactly what I meant but I meant it’s included with the code

Did you put your own one in there?

[surreal path]

yep

still doesnt wanna use it

which is cringe

[frigid cliff]

This file looks interesting, have you looked at it? https://github.com/fastfetch-cli/fastfetch/blob/7626ef6eaab4eb4c2d65d710b9c681d3577dc7b4/src/logo/builtin.c#L396

[surreal path]

yes and ive patched it

still doenst work

[frigid cliff]

Can you list logos?

[surreal path]

how can i do that

[frigid cliff]

fastfetch --list-logos

[surreal path]

nyaux is there

[frigid cliff]

hm

[surreal path]

this doesnt work

i can do this

[frigid cliff]

Can you set the logo to nyaux all lowercase

[surreal path]

still does the question mark

[frigid cliff]

Hm

[crystal scarab]

maybe open an issue ig?

[surreal path]

its dif not an issue with fastfetch

100% an issue with my patch somewhere..

js dunno what

[crystal scarab]

ah

[frigid cliff]

Wait just to clarify, you have the following:

• nyaux in the builtin.c file (under the N array)
• there is a file named nyaux.txt in src/logos/ascii
• you’re sure it’s returning “nyaux” or “Nyaux” (in whatever way fast fetch checks I can’t tell I’m on my phone ;-;)

[surreal path]

yes

[tight valve]

because we don't like iron oxide

[kind root]

did u execute your user name

[surreal path]

[tight valve]

just make it jump to 0xFFFF:0x0000

[frigid cliff]

Can you do fastfetch --print-logos

[surreal path]

doing so rn

printing them

might take a while lol

even with kvm is kinda slow

to be expected

[frigid cliff]

Fair lol there’s like a few hundreds logos

[surreal path]

yea nyaux is not there at all

[edgy pilot]

it's instantaneous on linux

[surreal path]

well

cpu isnt drawing it

i think

[edgy pilot]

huh?

it's text

[surreal path]

yea i mean about whos drawing the text

on linux

[kind root]

yeah its probably accelerated

depending on your terminal

[edgy pilot]

tty took 2s

[edgy pilot]

yeah it is lol

kitty

[frigid cliff]

Hmm

[surreal path]

i have no idea for the perfomance then but im sure its FINE

[frigid cliff]

Do you have your fork somewhere? Or just a diff?

[surreal path]

my patch?

[frigid cliff]

Yes

[frigid cliff]

I have to look at this once I’m home but I’ll do it first thing

[tight valve]

yes

took 0.041 seconds

[frigid cliff]

@surreal path why is the nyaux builtin in S[] ?

[surreal path]

s[]?

[frigid cliff]

line 4477 in src/logo/builtin.c

it's in the static const FFlogo S[]

rather than the static const FFlogo N[] (line 3121) that it should be

idk that it terribly matters but that doesnt seem right

[surreal path]

yes i may be an idiot

[frigid cliff]

that fixes it for me

[surreal path]

yes it fixes it

[frigid cliff]

yipee

[surreal path]

using menix's logo as a placeholder @supple robin

[supple robin]

menix propaganda

[surreal path]

new logo by @native wharf

this is now offically the nyaux logo

[kind root]

Damn

[supple robin]

damn

[median goblet]

Hi silly

@surreal path question. does your OS use dynamic or static linking

[ebon needle]

mlibc can do dynamic linking so i think yes

[median goblet]

mlibc can. but does nyaux make use of the feature?

[brisk zenith]

nyaux uses dylibs yeah

[median goblet]

nice

[ebon needle]

yes

[surreal path]

me eepy

[edgy pilot]

did the logo come out good

[surreal path]

@native wharf ascii art vs ur generated one

@edgy pilot

[edgy pilot]

nice

[surreal path]

which one looks better

[edgy pilot]

I may be biased by I like the second one

[surreal path]

i need to implement hard links but i dont feel like doing anything today :c

me when depression

[frigid cliff]

Are you on meds? (Sorry if invasive question)

[surreal path]

yes but they dont work

[frigid cliff]

You should tell to your doctor or psychiatrist

[surreal path]

they dont care

they dont believe meds will help me

[frigid cliff]

There’s like a billion of them and all of them work differently on different people

[surreal path]

shitty ah doctor

[frigid cliff]

Oh

[surreal path]

yea

[ebon needle]

I can't wait for bill gates to worship nyaux

[native wharf]

ngl i thought mine was gonna look like crap but i love the result :D

i just had doubts cuz i didn't know if it was going to fit in the terminal

[surreal path]

how dare they hurt ralsei

😡

[surreal path]

no work today cause fuck you im tired

today im eating way less (to lose weight) so im quite tired physically to do practically anything

[tender gorge]

ralsei needs hugs instead 🥺

[surreal path]

i need hugs in general 🥺

[tender gorge]

🫂

[surreal path]

🫂

[tender gorge]

[kind root]

Take your time

[kind root]

I ate so much crap today

But I punished myself with exercising for that

[surreal path]

should i have a parent vnode field in my vnode structure and have the file system impmenting the ops mantain that field?

similar to vinix in a way

[edgy pilot]

vfs should maintain that field but otherwise yes

[frigid cliff]

I believe the sunos book that I implemented based off of says to do that

[median goblet]

i remember from the pictures you posted that you were thin as hell

what makes you think you need to lose weight

[surreal path]

i had a dream where i was in factrio

[surreal path]

ive gained weight trust me

[surreal path]

yea fair

[tender gorge]

doesnt always mean you have to lose it, it depends

[tender gorge]

silly ^-^

[surreal path]

i dont like it its too much i prefer 40 kg being not 63kg im not happy with that even if i look "healthier"

[tender gorge]

being anorexic isnt good for you either though 🥺

[edgy pilot]

63 is normal

I'm like almost 80

I'm a bit taller though

[supple robin]

i'm 90 something

60 is a really good weight

[cinder plinth]

40kg is way underweight

[daring juniper]

wait, lord, Aomi and Aina are heavier than that and they're pretty smol XD

[cinder plinth]

no male teenager should be 40kg that is simply not healthy

[broken depot]

40kg is an unhealthy amount underweight for adults

[median goblet]

if you're also tall then that's pretty good

[supple robin]

183

[median goblet]

ah

[ebon needle]

i am 82 kg 😃

[rigid fable]

I'm a whopping 104kg... 😅

[cinder plinth]

I'm like 65kg 6ft

[orchid dawn]

45kg, 5ft 2in

[orchid dawn]

idk man, I'm only 45kg, but super short
16yo male

I'm actually somewhat chubby even, I just have literally no muscle mass, so I weigh nothing

yet I'm doing just fine, no doctor has told me to put on more weight

[daring juniper]

I'm about 69kg, around 6ft

[edgy pilot]

mixing those units is crazy 💀

wtf is 5ft 2in

[silver yarrow]

real

[edgy pilot]

191 cm and around 80 kg

[orchid dawn]

idk I was too lazy to go convert both weight and height

[coral dove]

I’m 18 like him and pretty skinny and I’m 182cm and 77kg

[cinder plinth]

i used kg because everyone else did, but I typically use pounds and feet

[cinder plinth]

if you're chubby and weigh that little then you probably need to gain muscle

or more like

you should

but if you live properly its fine

[orchid dawn]

same

[orchid dawn]

yes I know I should, but I'm also a lazy ass

can't be bothered

[surreal path]

yawn

ok we ball

nyaux hard link support lesgo

if i cant get it working ill just cheese it by making it a sym link instead

but i think i can get it working

i can manipulate the path the get the second last component, make a link op that performs a free of tmpfsnode and replacement with new vnode

[surreal path]

cool

now all i need to do is make the link op and implement that for tmpfs and devfs

then do the ustar shit and done

[surreal path]

wait no

u need to convert it from /home/test/../qwoeqo/./.. to /home/test/../qwoeqo/./

[edgy pilot]

to /home/qwoeqo ?

[surreal path]

no?

[edgy pilot]

/home/test/../qwoeqo is /home/qwoeqo

[surreal path]

yes ik

thats not the point here

[surreal path]

okay

i finally figured out the fucking string function

that took so long

holy shit

[tender gorge]

[surreal path]

nvm i did not

ok i figured it out now

ok i think ive implemented it fine

only way to test is to well

run it

okay lets see

🤞

fuck

[surreal path]

im trying to implement hard links and hardlinking something not involved to the US dir causes its v_type to suddenly be regular?????????????????????????

im stuck

no idea whats going on and its hard to track with gdb

[median goblet]

where do you add a reference to the vnode's refcount

[median goblet]

you are creating a new tmpfsnode and inserting the dirent from the old node into the new tmpfsnode

what the hell

bad order of operations?

isnt it supposed to be like, create the tmpfsnode, insert a new dirent into currnode that points to the new tmpfsnode?

[surreal path]

i dont have one

[surreal path]

no i think im doing everything right here

???

still :c

[orchid dawn]

Not entirely sure what's breaking there, but some general tips that might help:
Are you corrupting memory (parsing bogus info)? (You can watch values in GDB to check this)
Do you have faulty assumptions about the layout?
Are you trashing internal state that causes faulty assumptions about the layout?

[median goblet]

but wait how do the parameters work

what is curvnode and with

is with the destination directory or the actual node to be hardlinked

[surreal path]

i literarly am

still cannot figure it out

[surreal path]

curvnode is the vnode ur running ops with

with vnode is the destination vnode

to be linked

[surreal path]

[median goblet]

so you need a vnode to link to and a directory where the new link will be placed

[surreal path]

yes which i do

[median goblet]

which one's which

[surreal path]

curvnode is the directory where the new link will be placed

with vnode is the one to link to

[median goblet]

so describe to me how this works

specifically the insert_into_list

what list do you add what entry into

[surreal path]

okay so

direntry is bascailly struct tmpfsnode **nodes and size_t cnt

insert_into_list is a helper function

[median goblet]

ah so it's multiple dirents

[surreal path]

this is how the structures look

[median goblet]

can you show me what insert_into_list looks like

[surreal path]

yea sure

its just this

static void insert_into_list(struct tmpfsnode *node, struct direntry *entry) {
  if (entry->cnt == 0) {
    entry->nodes = kmalloc(sizeof(struct tmpfsnode *));
    entry->nodes[0] = node;
  } else {
    struct tmpfsnode **oldnodes = entry->nodes;
    entry->nodes = kmalloc(sizeof(struct tmpfsnode *) * (entry->cnt + 1));
    memcpy(entry->nodes, oldnodes, entry->cnt * sizeof(struct tmpfsnode *));
    kfree(oldnodes, entry->cnt * sizeof(struct tmpfsnode *));
    entry->nodes[entry->cnt] = node;
  }
  entry->cnt += 1;
}

[median goblet]

mm

so typically the vnode doesnt have the name of the file

because it can have multiple

but i see that your tmpfsnode has a pointer to a vnode

[surreal path]

mhm

and whats wrong with that

[median goblet]

direntry seems to not actually be a direntry

youre naming things wrong and confusing

[surreal path]

wdym

[median goblet]

direntry could be named dircontents and tmpfsnode could be named a direntry because it associates a vnode with a name

[surreal path]

tmpfsnode can also be a file tho

[median goblet]

it doesnt matter what vnode could be, a file or a directory

or a symlink

but tmpfsnode has a thing that points to a vnode right?

it doesnt contain the vnode

[surreal path]

yea

[median goblet]

ok so how things typically work

• a vnode represents an instance of a file, so its size, permissions, contents, etc.
• a direntry is basically a name of a file, of which there can be multiple
• the direntries themselves are in a directory vnode

[surreal path]

ok i get that

but that doesnt rlly have anything to do with my issue here lol

[median goblet]

your naming convention is confusing

[surreal path]

i guess

[surreal path]

still

[surreal path]

holy shit none of this makes sense, how does adding an entry cause the fuckin US vnode to become type 0?????????????

i still dont understand

[edgy pilot]

cringe US vnode lover vs chad EU vnode enjoyer

[surreal path]

@brisk zenith maybe u might have an idea as to why this happens? im quite stuck here and gdb isnt telling me much :c

[brisk zenith]

What's the issue exactly? I haven't been keeping up

[surreal path]

basically my hard link op is somehow corrupting the directory and making this happen

which makes zero sense

as its unrelated to the hardlink completely

the only thing i can think of is corruption but all im doing is inserting a node into the directory?

code for hardlink is in tmpfs.c and ustar.c on github

run git pull if u got a local repo already

[brisk zenith]

Can't think of anything from that alone, I'll do some debugging on my own

[surreal path]

alright

[brisk zenith]

well that's an issue

wonder how that came about

[surreal path]

the hell????

[brisk zenith]

ah i see

in hardlink() you're not copying the name

you're just using the pointer the user passed in

which in this case happens to be a buffer allocated on the stack in populate_tmpfs_from_tar

so on the next iter that buffer gets filled with the name of the new entry - Antarctica

or well

the next iter is the one that creates the Antarctica dir, and on this path the stack buffer isn't used, so it contains gibberish and lookup() doesn't resolve to the hard link

so the Antarctica dir gets created correctly

the next entry does use the stack buffer, and in such a way that it ends up holding Antarctica starting at the address that got stored in the tmpfs by hardlink

so this time the lookup resolves to the hard link

[surreal path]

that solved it???

wtf

me when fucking strings

holy shit i hate strings

[surreal path]

doing strdup solves it yep ur right

me when buffer overflow funny string garbage

[brisk zenith]

diff --git a/kernel/src/fs/ustar/ustar.c b/kernel/src/fs/ustar/ustar.c
index 5d8e210..05f974b 100644
--- a/kernel/src/fs/ustar/ustar.c
+++ b/kernel/src/fs/ustar/ustar.c
@@ -108,7 +108,7 @@ void populate_tmpfs_from_tar() {
         // THE HUMAN uhhhhh.... maybe we're here because the guy writing this is
         // braindead WHAT...??? just kidding! uh i dunno bro WHERE IS THE HUMAN
         // ?????
-        src->ops->hardlink(src, destination, last);
+        src->ops->hardlink(src, destination, strdup(last));
 
         kfree(lookup, lookup_len);
         kfree(last, last_len + 1);
diff --git a/kernel/src/fs/vfs/vfs.c b/kernel/src/fs/vfs/vfs.c
index 3e31a5d..06ec41e 100644
--- a/kernel/src/fs/vfs/vfs.c
+++ b/kernel/src/fs/vfs/vfs.c
@@ -137,7 +137,7 @@ void vfs_create_from_tar(char *path, enum vtype type, size_t filesize,
     }
 
     if (res != 0)
-      assert(current_node->ops->create(current_node, token, VDIR, &tmpfs_ops,
+      assert(current_node->ops->create(current_node, strdup(token), VDIR, &tmpfs_ops,
                                        &next_node, NULL, NULL) == 0);
 
     assert(next_node->v_type == VDIR);
``` this is the patch i used for reference

the 2nd hunk isn't related to the issue but i noticed that it would have suffered from the same issue

[surreal path]

yea

what do u think of my funny comments tho :^)

in ustar.c

[brisk zenith]

papyrus

[surreal path]

real

[brisk zenith]

but as for the question above it

is the issue that you're not sure the directory src needs to be created in exists?

if so i'd just do something similar to vfs_create_from_tar

[surreal path]

yea i was confused before

but now its fine

[brisk zenith]

ah ok

[surreal path]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jYT8TVDZ7pU0z9Olj2As-yxbQGB1PVWk8ukIF51Pthw/https/media.tenor.com/QdP4UNFxGvMAAAPo/papyrus-nuhuh.mp4

now we have hardlinks

lesgo

[surreal path]

someone made a pr removing typos and stuff

i merged it :)

[mossy belfry]

WHY DOES YOUR MAKEFILE INSTALL APT

[gray hill]

lol what

[mossy belfry]

are you seeing this

i am having to remerge my system to fix everything this broke

[gray hill]

where is it installing apt?

[mossy belfry]

how do you think it is getting things from the debian servers

[gray hill]

oh wait, you are not on a debian distro?

or one that uses apt

[mossy belfry]

no i am on gentoo

[gray hill]

ohhh

lol

[mossy belfry]

ts so cooked 🥀

build scripts should not install package managers

🥀

[gray hill]

at least use docker if you really wanna do it

[mossy belfry]

but why does the build script do this to begin with

[gray hill]

idk

prob a package that is only available prebuild via apt

[tawdry mirage]

jinx uses a debian container?

[mossy belfry]

oh ok phew i was worried

[gray hill]

oh, that explains why then

[mossy belfry]

that was scary for a second

alrighty we are so back

[thorn bramble]

how about you read the output of the command you are running before jumping to conclusions and accusing someone of breaking your system

lol

unless: you explicitly gave it root permissions, you are using a broken kernel or your / and friends are & 0--6, there is no way a makefile could break your system

[snow wolf]

make 0day

[molten grotto]

I have no sudo passwd so I wouldn't know if someones makefile would do sudo

[thorn bramble]

well, yeah, you fall under the first condition then :^)

explicitly giving root permissions

[molten grotto]

the reason for it is that I got tired of needing to enter my password every time I run xbstrap run make-image

[thorn bramble]

(lemme add a sudo rm -rf /* to nyaux makefile real quick)

[thorn bramble]

i just set the timeout to like 30 minutes or something

usually enough between rebuilds

[molten grotto]

or maybe I could make xbstrap be owned by root and give it suid

[gray hill]

just remove the password for a specific user

or remove the passwd for just a specific command

[thorn bramble]

both are stupid solutions

well, one is dumb

second is not a thing iirc

[gray hill]

specific command no

[brisk zenith]

or just make it so your imaging script doesn't need root

[gray hill]

i think it is

[thorn bramble]

libguestfs

that's what managarm does by default

but it is kinda slow iirc

[gray hill]

it is possible

[brisk zenith]

i was more thinking along the lines of mke2fs -b <block size> -d <dir/tarball> -E offset=<offset> <image> <number of blocks>

but sure libguestfs works

[thorn bramble]

we're talking about sudo then, i guess

[brisk zenith]

that doesn't need sudo

[thorn bramble]

ah

true

i think managarm can already do that with remake-image

make-image mounts the image and uses rsync to update it

which needs root permissions if you use loopback mount method

[brisk zenith]

for that i'd use fuse2fs

[thorn bramble]

idk if xbstrap supports it

but it probably wouldn't be hard to add support for it

[brisk zenith]

it's not a matter of xbstrap support? you just have to make whatever script xbstrap invokes support it

xbstrap doesn't support loopback or guestfs or anything like that either

[thorn bramble]

oh well sorry, not xbstrap

i meant bootstrap

[brisk zenith]

ah ok

[thorn bramble]

it contains the scripts

idk if it's one specific script that does it

but i think so

i think it's update-image.py

[surreal path]

huh whats going on

ive been sleeping

@mossy belfry fix ur pr

thats not how it works

u need to do kprintf("%s"(), func)

and panic doesnt take format

well uh

good morning chat i suppose

ive been sleeping all day

holy shit

[mossy belfry]

i was trying to string concatenate

[surreal path]

thats now how it works

not*

[mossy belfry]

oh ok

[surreal path]

well fix ur PR if u want me to merge this

[mossy belfry]

nah that would take a long time ur codebase is big lol it's not a huge problem

[surreal path]

perferably get it to compile

[mossy belfry]

I might try again later time

[surreal path]

okay then close ur PR or smt

[mossy belfry]

ok ok

my apolocheese

[surreal path]

all good

[supple robin]

lol you did it wrong too

kprintf("%s()", __func__)

[surreal path]

i did

it just didnt show up

[supple robin]

yours would just be UB

[surreal path]

cause discord

[supple robin]

no

look at what you sent

[supple robin]

yours would just print garbage

try it

[surreal path]

bru its not showing up

cause

[mossy belfry]

the __func__ is a separate argument

[surreal path]

fucking discord

[supple robin]

no

you're blind

that's the problem

[mossy belfry]

myopia 😔 ✊

[brisk zenith]

the __func__ is within the string literal

[supple robin]

you did kprintf("%s(), __func__")

that would likely just crash

[mossy belfry]

what if their kprintf function just does that but it lexes each token in the string

[surreal path]

oh

mb

yea i cant see shit

ur right im blind

[surreal path]

give me eyes then

[mossy belfry]

your OS is so silly

what does nyaux even mean

[surreal path]

bro

nya-aux

aux meaning unix

or whatever

[mossy belfry]

aux?

[supple robin]

:3

[mossy belfry]

auxillary cord

isn't that the 9mm headphone jack

[surreal path]

https://tenor.com/view/snes-gif-9453751879808222790

[mossy belfry]

what does menix mean

unix for men

[surreal path]

crazy

[supple robin]

minimal expandable unix

[surreal path]

holy shit im sleepy

[rare pebble]

a/ux?

[surreal path]

ok

we back

after i sleep some more

nyaux time

[ebon needle]

when you wake up, i am going to sleep

[surreal path]

dont feel like doing anything today

feel like shit

maybe later but we'll see

[surreal path]

hey

currently working on getting c++ working

then we ball with fbdev

sorry for the lack of progress in the past week

[tender gorge]

:3

[tender gorge]

is okie 🥺 🫂

[edgy pilot]

wha

c++ in nyaux?

[surreal path]

ye

[edgy pilot]

you mean g++ or in the kernel

[surreal path]

in the kernel

[edgy pilot]

what

why?

isn't your kernel in C?

[surreal path]

yes

but

im kinda starting to like c++???

weirdly

[edgy pilot]

then rewrite it better instead of mixing languages

[surreal path]

no

no point in doing that

[edgy pilot]

that's the sane solution

[surreal path]

im not gonna rewrite it

[edgy pilot]

you could fix your coding style and some bugs

[surreal path]

theres no bugs atm? that i know of

[edgy pilot]

there are always bugs

[surreal path]

havent encountered any atm

[edgy pilot]

perfect software doesn't exist

[surreal path]

ik

im just saying, how am i supposed to fix a bug i dont know of and havent encountered

[edgy pilot]

you might accidentally fix it by rewriting

[surreal path]

bro

[edgy pilot]

yes

[surreal path]

no

im not entertaining this

[kind root]

Smh not even zig

[surreal path]

crazy

[tender gorge]

crazy?

i was crazy once

[edgy pilot]

they locked me in a room

[surreal path]

c++ working

cool

im sleeping im too tired

[thorn bramble]

REALLL

zig in nyaux when

[tender gorge]

i think rayan sticks to good programming languages

[thorn bramble]

zig is infy approved

also he decided to add c++ support, your point being?

[tender gorge]

C++ IS A GOOD LANGUAGE

[supple robin]

guh

[supple robin]

said nobody ever

smh

[surreal path]

i keep conking out amd falling asleep

honestly that is kind of expectee

expected*

considering i didnt get a lot of sleep

due to stress

[surreal path]

add patches

and ill support even tho i know 0 zig

i just opened my closet

i found

https://tenor.com/view/wii-fit-wii-fit-plus-wii-balance-board-wii-balance-board-gif-1217895627813965789

this little shit

the wii fit thing

oh and a broken wii

lol

😔

anyways

nap time

[native wharf]

write custom drivers in Nyaux for the Wii Fit balance board

the best way to navigate your operating system

[tender gorge]

i believe its just a bluetooth device

[native wharf]

yeee it is

i was just bein silly

[kind root]

huh

when did u send it

[surreal path]

like

a long time ago lol

[kind root]

lol

[surreal path]

anyways i need to add some c++ glue garbage so i can use keywords like new

shouldn't be too hard c++ just calls into operator new(usigned long

i can simply get it to call kmalloc

[surreal path]

bluetooth would be pain to implement but maybe one day if we can get weston on nyaux we can probs do that too

then we could be able to write a driver for the wii fit board

first hobby kernel to do so

[native wharf]

:DDD

[surreal path]

glue made 👍

now we can do fbdev

oh and im finally giving proper commit messages to nyaux

no more "nano added cm cm"

[ebon needle]

finally c++ nyaux

[surreal path]

indeed

oop looks like ci is broken again

time to fix ig

[supple robin]

glue

[surreal path]

glue

[supple robin]

what's glue

[surreal path]

its glue

https://tenor.com/view/eat-drink-glue-wtf-gif-15952413

yum

(this is a joke dont eat glue it will kill you)

[supple robin]

what does it do tho

[surreal path]

only this lol

[supple robin]

bruh

[surreal path]

lol

i might add wrappers around more C functions in the kernel

or smt

idk

i just wanted to have a file named glue

cause haha glue

and i mean it kinda sounds right even tho its lit 3 loc

[surreal path]

if there are other C++ "operators" i dont know about i can impl them here ig

[supple robin]

delete

and delete[]

[surreal path]

crazy

😱

[edgy pilot]

don't forget these flags

-fno-rtti
-fno-exceptions
-fcheck-new

[surreal path]

yea i have em

[edgy pilot]

also maybe -fsized-deallocation because your free takes size too

[edgy pilot]

are you sure you have the third one?

[surreal path]

oh yeah def want that

[surreal path]

no but adding now

hi guys im wing gaster the royal scienist!

[edgy pilot]

Hi wing gaster the royal scienist!, I'm ilobilo

[frigid cliff]

What if it’s non toxic tho

[edgy pilot]

it'll still kill you if you eat too much of it

[frigid cliff]

Anything will kill you if you eat too much of it

[tawdry mirage]

afaik elmers glue is made to be non-toxic since it's intended to be used by children

[ebon needle]

air

[edgy pilot]

air isn't food or a drink but if you took too much of it, you would pop

[ebon needle]

air kills too 😔

2025 stop

[daring juniper]

Oxygen toxicity

[surreal path]

good morning

or should i say

good night

chat i just woke up

[tender gorge]

silly

[surreal path]

i feel asleep watching a japanese person play sans undertale

[gray hill]

lol

cool

[daring juniper]

Ey! Japanese! 🎌

[coral dove]

V nice

[cinder plinth]

What does that do

[edgy pilot]

passes size to delete operators

[cinder plinth]

does the compiler keep track of it or what

[thorn bramble]

new/delete knows what kind of an object it's destroying

so it knows the size of it

but i do wonder how it works with lets say

struct a { int x; };
struct b : a { int y; };
void foo(a *bar) {
  delete a;
}
int main() {
  foo(new b);
}

[tawdry mirage]

-fsized-deallocation doesn't make the compiler call sized delete, it just enables the operator on clang iirc

[thorn bramble]

ah

[surreal path]

gosh i miss my old desktop

[thorn bramble]

also, is that even valid?

[surreal path]

[thorn bramble]

to delete an object by a pointer to it's subclass

or superclass

or whatever

[tawdry mirage]

if a has a public virtual dtor sure

[thorn bramble]

i see

that makes perfect sense

[tawdry mirage]

also typo in your code, delete bar;

[thorn bramble]

true :^)

but yeah virtual dtor makes perfect sense

[tawdry mirage]

you can keep virtual dtors but make the object destructible only through derived classes by doing protected: ~a() = default;

(= default not necessary ofc)

[thorn bramble]

is it not?

[tawdry mirage]

i mean you can give the dtor a custom body

[surreal path]

speaking of which

[tawdry mirage]

if need be

[surreal path]

donations welcome

[thorn bramble]

ah yeah

i thought you meant

~a(); vs ~a() = default; lol

that made no sense in my head

[surreal path]

it will be a nyaux expence

[tawdry mirage]

ah no yeah i worded that poorly

[thorn bramble]

but = default vs one with body make sense

[molten grotto]

before clang 19 -fsized-deallocation does also make it use the sized delete in all cases where it can use it and >= clang 19 it just automatically uses in all cases where its possible regardless of that flag

and gcc looks to use the sized functions by default starting at 6.1

[cinder plinth]

How does it know tho for stuff like vectors

where it's resized

[thorn bramble]

it doesn’t

it uses delete[]

i think that one is different

[edgy pilot]

wdym?

vectors would either use malloc/realloc/free or new[]/delete[]+new[]/delete[]

[tawdry mirage]

new[] stores the amount of elements somehow (in an implementation-defined way), since delete[] has to know how many destructors to invoke

[edgy pilot]

I guess new[] would allocate more memory and store the size as well

[broken depot]

Yes, but there is no standard method for storing that size, so different implementations do it in their own ways

[edgy pilot]

yeah, it would work just like the allocator in libc storing metadata

[molten grotto]

also it looks like it only uses the sized array delete for types that have a non-trivial destructor, that's actually kinda annoying

though ig its not that bad as you can just store the size yourself in the nonsized one in that case (if its not already stored by the allocator)

[surreal path]

nyaux lore

[median goblet]

The allocated area has a spot in the beginning, before the pointer, where the size of the array is stored

I'm pretty sure this is what happens

Like ((size_t*)myPointer)[-1]

But this isn't standard

[tawdry mirage]

it is a part of the itanium abi afaik though

[surreal path]

apologies for the slow nyaux development

its too hot and its hard to code when its super hot outside

im not used to this temperature and its making it nearly impossible to type even one line of code

im sweating like crazy

idk how we are gonna get past this

we have no ac here in ireland so

[gray hill]

that's pure hell

[surreal path]

yep

i hate summer here all the time

[gray hill]

go to code in a car

lol

[surreal path]

i dont own a car

[gray hill]

at least you have AC in there

[gray hill]

any of your parent's car?

[surreal path]

not allowed to waste the battery of my parents car

[gray hill]

f

[surreal path]

idk how people deal with summer

or how they even like it

[gray hill]

here in italy we have AC

and at least for now it is an OK temp in the shadows

but you get cooked in the sun

[ebon needle]

what is ac

[surreal path]

air conditioning

[ebon needle]

why

[surreal path]

huh

to cool u down??

[ebon needle]

why in ireland no ac

[surreal path]

because its "always cold"

that is not true btw

ever since global warming its getting worse and worse in summer

[ebon needle]

how about fans

[surreal path]

nope

none in my house at least

i feel like a intel current gen cpu with this heat

im thermal throttling from the temperature

[ebon needle]

are you laptop or pc user

[surreal path]

laptop

[ebon needle]

then you need to ready to cook fried eggs

[surreal path]

temp is going down cause its 7:11pm here

when its colder ill work on fbdev for nyaux so we can have doom

still too hot

[tender gorge]

most of europe does not have AC

normally the days where it would be useful were not too many (although climate change kinda fucked that), and houses in europe are generally built with the lack of AC being considered (so things like blinds down during day to keep house cooler / open windows during night to let cold air go in + insulation and stuff)

[ebon needle]

wild

[tender gorge]

tbh i think the american obsession with it is wild

like, bruh, its such a waste of power, just have well insulated houses and heating?

[surreal path]

just give me hug

[tender gorge]

have hug, friend

[ebon needle]

send your ip adres and i wil hug u

[broken depot]

very cool

[ebon needle]

what is your temp

now

[surreal path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTWeakmUmEk&pp=ygUQZ2FzdGVyIGRlbHRhcnVuZQ%3D%3D

[ebon needle]

is this real ???

[surreal path]

i am wing gastdr

the royal scienist

[ebon needle]

im going to play undertale again and kill everyone

OR

i can be good boy

[surreal path]

nah thats wild

[ebon needle]

then i going to pacifist ending

[cinder plinth]

I would love to see you try that in florida

or in arizona

Which is a fucking desert

[tender gorge]

not all places were meant to be settled by humans

[surreal path]

https://tenor.com/view/miaslayer-mslayerx-foodgore-gif-25057808

[daring juniper]

oh lord I used to live in Florida XD

[ebon needle]

https://tenor.com/view/nikocado-nikocado-avocado-gif-25714127

[cinder plinth]

I like florida

Idk if I would live there but I really like going there

[silver yarrow]

swamp

[cinder plinth]

Yeah it's really humid

Idk I haven't gone to enough states

Maybe I'd like California more since it's a similar weather kinda (without storms every day) and dryer

[silver yarrow]

cali weather goes hard sometime

not that I have spent tons of time there

but the few weeks

[cinder plinth]

I'd love to go there but I'm on the east coast so it's quite far

[gray hill]

hong kong

lol

the AC city

[molten grotto]

I'd like to have an ac in the summer, I don't like when its 30c inside

can't get anything done and can't sleep either

something like 20c would be ideal (and in the winter it mostly is like that)

[plush hearth]

australia also has AC in most houses. to be fair though, it gets to 40c+ in half the country during summer.

[gray hill]

only 30c?

that's still an ok temp

here we can reach 40°C sometimes

and your car becomes an oven too

[rare pebble]

right?? 😭

it gets up to like 48 degrees here in the summer

[cinder plinth]

I think the highest I ever saw here was probs like 42

I love Canada weather

[orchid dawn]

over here in Phoenix it's not uncommon to hit 46C

can sometimes get as high as 49

30C is like, average room temps

that's the temp that it is RIGHT NOW in my room

that's cool

lmfao

if it was 20C inside I would be shivering, that's cold as balls

[gray hill]

XD

[orchid dawn]

no sane person sets it that cold over here

[gray hill]

i can literally go with a t shirt until 13°C

that's when i start to feel cold

[orchid dawn]

wild

people from different regions experience temperatures very differently I suppose
if it was 13C I'd need a heavy shirt and possibly a jacket

[gray hill]

i wear a jacket only when it's 5°C or less outside

[orchid dawn]

meanwhile I can walk outside in 40C+ weather and be fine

that's just average

once it hits ~44C it starts to get annoyingly hot

=47C is possible, but very much "don't go outside" tier

[surreal path]

okay so

ive been exceedingly tired

weirdy

im not gonna do anything today for nyaux ngl but tmrw ill do something promise

just been struggling with myself

a lot

[tender gorge]

🥺 🫂 💙

its okie, take care of yourself first frien

[broken depot]

You don't owe nyaux to us, we're just excited to see you make something cool.
Take care of yourself and remember we're here if you want to talk.

[coral dove]

Nyaux is already awesome and your well being is important so take your time and get some good rest

We’re here for you

[supple robin]

nyaux is still ahead of menix

so you don't have to sweat it

[kind root]

Nyaux is ahead of most osses

[rare pebble]

I should try nyaux out

[ebon needle]

when nyaux java port

[rare pebble]

when nyaux brainfuck port

[rich trellis]

when nyaux firefox port

[nova fox]

when nyaux malbolge port

[tender gorge]

when nyaux factorio port

[median goblet]

when firefox nyaux port

[ebon needle]

when nyaux hearts of iron 4 port

[surreal path]

when nyaux gnome

[molten grotto]

when nyaux wine

[surreal path]

true

[molten grotto]

it shouldn't likely be that bad after you have xorg or wayland working, it mostly just uses signals + mmap stuff + some other stuff

[ebon needle]

nyaux is gone from active threads

im fixed this

[surreal path]

im taking a break for a little while

is all

we will be back on the grind soon

[ebon needle]

k

[surreal path]

working on fbdev like now

im gonna have to restructure how i provide framebuffers instead of hard coding it in

[surreal path]

getting there

now i need to understand those fbdev structs

https://tenor.com/view/friend-inside-me-toy-story-delatrune-undertale-woody-gif-17406190780415117850

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-plue-friend-inside-me-steve-gaster-gif-15019615222994035890

[rare pebble]

ah yes totally what I asked for

smh my head

[supple robin]

get owned

[thorn bramble]

it says "results for linux os"

[surreal path]

inspect element???

[rare pebble]

I wish

nope 😦

maybe try adding the OS part?

actually how do you do the inspect thing on firefox, ik how on discord

[supple robin]

NyauxKc

[rare pebble]

like this

that ik, not for firefox

ignore the sentence it's just what i had in mind for some reason

[surreal path]

no offense but id rather keep the name as is

[broken depot]

BadgerOS is somehow listed above the fake OS of the same name from GTA

[edgy pilot]

osdev forum one apparently mentions my paging code

[maiden ridge]

[kind root]

how tf is uacpi related to that query lol

[kind root]

lol

[surreal path]

ok we cook

lets get back on the grind of fbdev

be adviced, might not do much considering starship flight 9 launch window opens in a 2 hours ish

and i wanna watch that

[surreal path]

yo gurt

gurt: yo

[edgy pilot]

make gfxdevice constructor print that

[surreal path]

ill have to make the read and write functions virtual

[flat nymph]

wait a second

[surreal path]

yea wssp

[flat nymph]

why am I seeing classes?

[edgy pilot]

this guy c++es

[surreal path]

c++ in nyaux is real

[edgy pilot]

and he's mixing up c and c++

[surreal path]

yes

[edgy pilot]

💀

[surreal path]

i call it crust

no that would be rust and c

nono

uhhh

idk

[edgy pilot]

mishakov is speachless

[surreal path]

crazy

[flat nymph]

I mean I'm mixing 3 languages

kinda

[edgy pilot]

not in one binary

[flat nymph]

yeah no

[surreal path]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-care-didnt-ask-cope-_ratio-skill-issue-canceled-gif-24148064

/j

[flat nymph]

are you liking it?

[surreal path]

yes 😔

[edgy pilot]

do proper fmt while you're at it

"{}", arg

[surreal path]

idk how

im new to c++ lol

[edgy pilot]

just use fmtlib

[flat nymph]

variadic templates

[edgy pilot]

who doesn't love them

[flat nymph]

with concepts

[edgy pilot]

it brings me joy when I get them nice and pretty

[flat nymph]

I use that for my IPC memes

[surreal path]

how would u set that up for freestanding environments

[edgy pilot]

ezpz

compile and define unresolved symbols

you just need a few stubs iirc

you might not even need that tbh

[surreal path]

fair

[edgy pilot]

https://github.com/ilobilo/fmt

here you go

no floating point in this

[surreal path]

i see it can output std::string? but i dont have access to the std library

how does that work

[edgy pilot]

freestnd-cxx-hdrs

[surreal path]

how do i access it

i have it compiled againist my kernel so

[edgy pilot]

access what

[flat nymph]

i've just reimplemented parts of stl that I wanted in my kernel

[surreal path]

std::string

[edgy pilot]

might I introduce you to: https://github.com/ilobilo/string

it's pretty feature complete

with sso and stuff

[flat nymph]

#include <string>

[surreal path]

didnt u say freestnd-cxx-hdrs have it

[flat nymph]

(or something)

[edgy pilot]

no, but you still need that

[flat nymph]

but string isn't freestanding I think?

[surreal path]

i already have that

[flat nymph]

Per c++ standard

[edgy pilot]

it's not

[flat nymph]

(I'm waiting for C++26 for freestanding std::expected )

[surreal path]

crazy

[edgy pilot]

you can use it right now

freestnd-cxx-hdrs

I use C++23 and std::expected is wonderful

[flat nymph]

It's fine

[flat nymph]

I use it in userspace

[edgy pilot]

oh yeah

[flat nymph]

since I'm a microkernel

and I have full rust std as well

[flat nymph]

Ok, I'm finishing to listen to the song and I'll probably watch that as well

(Though I have an exam tomorrow, which I need to study for...)

[edgy pilot]

good that I don't have a proper sleep scheduler