Nyaux

[surreal path]

the code is on github

if ur free

maybe u could take a look

because ive been pulling my hair out with this 😭

@silver yarrow

[silver yarrow]

I'm omw to work but send the actual place where u call these from

[surreal path]

okay

https://github.com/rayanmargham/NyauxKC/blob/master/kernel/src/sched/sched.c

@silver yarrow

[silver yarrow]

I will take a look at work if I have spare time

[surreal path]

okay

thank you

ur really kind

ima go and nap for a bit

😴

[thorny glen]

saving to stack is simpler and better

reasons its better include the fact that it saves room in the thread structure for context information that you dont need to put there

and also the fact that the stack is more likely to be exclusive in your L1 already

so it saves space and its faster

[ebon needle]

Please make your code more readable

[desert haven]

Lol, let the man nap

[fringe loom]

why are there a bunch of #if's for x86_64?

imo you should get it working on x86_64 and then worry about porting it to other arches

[surreal path]

hi

im awake

but still sleepy

[surreal path]

honestly fair, i used to do it before but idk someone told me to switch and i said ok

[surreal path]

u tell that to a dude who wants to nap

💀

[surreal path]

frfr

[surreal path]

did ya look at it yet

@flat nymph morning

u should be friends with me

real

[flat nymph]

morning

[surreal path]

i sent bro a fq

bcs me and bro are besties now

[thorny glen]

I'm oenguin

[surreal path]

and now will is also my bestie

u cant escape me

to which was rejected

[surreal path]

will what will it take for u to be my bestie

i can uhhh

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i got nothing

[thorny glen]

Why do u want my bestiehood

[surreal path]

because bro is cool

[thorny glen]

I am a terrible horrible person just ask @wooden cliff

[surreal path]

idc

ur my bestie accept my fq

we are all besties now

[thorny glen]

As a hyena i have eaten many baabies

[surreal path]

so

[edgy pilot]

is this how people make friends

[thorny glen]

They are dead now i ate themm they are not alive

[surreal path]

yes

me and my gf can make more babies u can eat

[thorny glen]

I ate the babiess due to hyena

No

Ew

Don't say that

[surreal path]

MY BAD

[edgy pilot]

new gf?

[surreal path]

yea

2 weeks now

[surreal path]

anyways

uhhh

[edgy pilot]

show her that message

[surreal path]

u can eat my little brother

hes annoying

[surreal path]

NO

[thorny glen]

I don't want to

[surreal path]

what does the hyena want

[edgy pilot]

then don't type it in the first place

[thorny glen]

You should love and care for your little brother

[surreal path]

ok

i will love and care for my brother

[surreal path]

she wont see this

[thorny glen]

There is deep meaning to his life beyond his temporary childhood annoyingness

[surreal path]

i talk to her on my alt

[thorny glen]

And your actions now will have consequences for him for decades

[edgy pilot]

should you cheat if she doesn't know?

[surreal path]

bro wtf.

dont say that

[thorny glen]

You should help your parents raise him to be a happy person

A happy and healthy guy

[edgy pilot]

yeah wtf to you

[surreal path]

im joking i dont think hes annoying

[surreal path]

why would i cheat

no

never

[edgy pilot]

just because your partner won't know, you shouldn't do something

it was an analogy dummy

[surreal path]

i dont understand

brain explode

[surreal path]

@thorny glen i will learn ur programming language

hows that

😤

[thorny glen]

What is my programming language

[surreal path]

jkl

[surreal path]

jkl

[wooden cliff]

what is happening here Whar

[thorny glen]

What's jkl

[thorny glen]

Tell nyaux I am evil

Let nyaux know I am an evil guy

I eat babies because I'm a hyena

[wooden cliff]

its true he killed me and im dead rn

[thorny glen]

Thank you for your testimonial

[surreal path]

uhhhhhh

[thorny glen]

You are dismissed

[surreal path]

johns kool programming language

[thorny glen]

Huh

[wooden cliff]

@thorny glen hi john !

[surreal path]

thats what jkl means

[thorny glen]

Don't just say stuff man

Make sense brother

[surreal path]

uhhhh

[edgy pilot]

wait your name is John but username Will?

[surreal path]

i dont know what jkl means

but i would like to learn it

so

yea

!

okay @thorny glen so is this a deal, friend in exchange for me learning jkl

(i need friends)

and i will contribute to mintia one day

yes

[edgy pilot]

jet propulsion kerbal laboratory

[surreal path]

kerbal mentioned

https://tenor.com/view/the-shitfuck-11-shitfuck-kerbal-space-program-kerbal-shitfuck-gif-gif-11835828753050064438

[edgy pilot]

successful launch

[surreal path]

real

anyways back to napping

[thorny glen]

contributing to mintia makes me like someone less

[surreal path]

oh

then i WONT

[thorny glen]

Bc then i can less accurately say i wrote the whole thing

That's why i hate @haughty kite because he contributed some colors for a dark mode console like 2 years ago and i never forgave him

[thorny glen]

Uh. That's a bit rude to just declare like that

[surreal path]

oh im sorry

[thorny glen]

Someone needs to teach this kid some mannas

[surreal path]

okay bro dont kid me

😡

i am 17 years old

thank u very much

soon to be 18

in like

2 months

[thorny glen]

I'm 22 and I'm still a kid

People call me kid

[surreal path]

well im clearly a very mature adult

[thorny glen]

I'm a "college kid"

[surreal path]

real

[surreal path]

ok wellllll

im out of offers

so if u wanna be my friend accept the fq if not just dont 😔 i will understand

[flat nymph]

i think the time froze for me when I was about 18

[wooden cliff]

personally i dont think trying to become friends with someone by begging them to accept your friend request will work out very well but maybe thats just me

[surreal path]

im sorry

i just

dont know how to make friends very well

i wasnt trying to beg

but if i seemed like that

i apologise

plus like

i dont even have friends irl

[wooden cliff]

actually yeah im sorry too that sounded more harsh than i intended

[surreal path]

its okay dw

[flat nymph]

friends have just been made

[thorny glen]

I would have been 1 million times more likely (almost certain) to accept a random friend request with zero context than to accept one someone begd me to accept

[surreal path]

yea i ruined those chances

my bad.

oh ok

[thorny glen]

And i made roblock

But they pretend i made nothing

To take my life from me

And my rights

But I will get them back

[surreal path]

oh i see

i hope u do

[thorny glen]

Thank you

[surreal path]

u did yes

[thorny glen]

And roblock

[surreal path]

yes and roblock

[thorny glen]

Which they renamed to roblox later

Which is dtupid

[surreal path]

exactly

[thorny glen]

And before that i made

[surreal path]

yes

u did

[thorny glen]

Yes

[surreal path]

yes

[thorny glen]

And after that I made fortnite

[surreal path]

yes u 100% did

[tawdry mirage]

wtf are you hatsune miku

[thorny glen]

Dude. Not the time or place for a dox fest

[surreal path]

well i may have ruined my chances to be friends with someone really cool because i fucking begged like a stupid fucking loser why am i always like this BUTTTTT its okayyyyy becauseeeeeee im gonna sleep any self hatred thoughts away now night night

😴

[thorny glen]

I'm not cool

Nobody likes me

I am hated

[surreal path]

i see differently

i dont hate you

[thorny glen]

And they took roblock from me

[tawdry mirage]

shit sorry

[thorny glen]

And they're trying to take mintia as well

Mintsuki used to be called coolsauceXD

[surreal path]

can i just ask why am i just a fucking loser like this

[thorny glen]

She changed to mintsuki as part of a plan to steal mintia from me

[surreal path]

why cant i just

be normal

i hate it

why am i even venting rn

[thorny glen]

You are seventeen

[surreal path]

yea with no friends

i dont even

go to school anymore

i barely talk to people

and i always find a way to ruin things im like a screwup yk

[thorny glen]

This is not real i think that is very obvious that im joking but to avoid misunderstandings ill explicitly state that i literally made this up for no reason.

[surreal path]

with my code, with talking to people in general with, even just me existing im like a mistake

i didnt ask to be here ugh

[thorny glen]

It's a good sign you don't take these concerns seriously or sacred enough to keep them to a closer circle

[surreal path]

what does that mean

i actually wish i was dead

[thorny glen]

It would be scarier if you weren't announcing it to a public discord basically

So I'm glad you are

For your sake

[surreal path]

whats the difference if i say it online or to nobody

i still have those thoughts

and i still just wanna go through with it

maybe i will idk

not like yall would know, id just disappear and yall assume i gave up on nyaux or smt

[flat nymph]

talking to strangers on the internet kinda makes it easier (?)

[flat nymph]

but yeah no, that's bad

I also had that thoughts (about mylself)

[surreal path]

i genuinely want to attempt today like fr this time

kinda sick of this loop

we call "living"

[flat nymph]

it will get better eventually

you will not see that better if you end that now

[surreal path]

thats what they told me

when i was 14

when i was 13

[flat nymph]

bruh

[surreal path]

etc etc

[flat nymph]

you're almost 18

[surreal path]

it never did

i feel worse then before

worse then when i was 13

things never got better

they got worse

[flat nymph]

it doesn't mean they won't

[surreal path]

sure

[flat nymph]

you get to be an adult and decide what to do with yourself

not just "do what parrents tell you"

like you're talking to people here

that wouldn't be happening if you were a total screwup as you think

[surreal path]

no i annoy people here

[flat nymph]

just look around you

[surreal path]

with my dumb questions

[flat nymph]

you don't

[surreal path]

i did with will

[flat nymph]

he was clearly joking

[surreal path]

about which statement was he joking about

because i dont know

i feel like he was serious up to the i made minecraft part

[flat nymph]

@thorny glen

[thorny glen]

I'm will

[flat nymph]

say something

[thorny glen]

About what

Idk what's happening

[flat nymph]

about this

[thorny glen]

What am i supposed to do

[flat nymph]

idk

[thorny glen]

@surreal path you should not

[surreal path]

i annoyed u tho dont u agree

[thorny glen]

No

[surreal path]

oh

[thorny glen]

I did not care particularly one way or the other

[surreal path]

oh

[thorny glen]

I'm tired so i was just shitposting aimlessly

I forgot what even happened already

Idk if that helps or not

Sry if it doesn't

I hold no ill will

Even though i am will

[surreal path]

that made me smile for a second

[surreal path]

it does

[surreal path]

but did i like ruin my chances to be friends with you yes or no, if i did is there a way to get those chances back. like im not forcing you to be my friend if u dont wanna u dont wanna but like is there a way to improve my chances if thats even possible. i am unsure as to whats going on either

this is the last thing im asking u i promise, i just need to know is all

and im sorry for the mental breakdown

i just

am not feeling great today

like at all

its harder to like

deal with it

yk

and i keep going to the doctors, they up my dose. it didnt help or made me feel worse i come back they give me a different kind of med it doesnt work

[wooden cliff]

@surreal path fwiw, when i was 17 i felt a lot of the same things so i get it. making friends is hard and shit sucks around that age in general i think. of course i dont know you or your situation or anything but stuff does tend to get better

[thorny glen]

I have literally no opinion on this you are practically a stranger to me

[surreal path]

understandable and im sorry for this stupid question

[thorny glen]

Im just a guy

[surreal path]

yea i get that

[surreal path]

if u were like experiencing what i was experiencing

it is hell.

and then ur dad is like

promise me ull stay safe promise me ull not do anything

but u just wanna escape the hell

idk if this is a good anaology to

what i felel

felel

feel

but yk

im trying

im going to bed i need to just calm and sleep

ryfox if u have something to say

ill wait for u to finish ur message

before i sleep

[wooden cliff]

its okay i dont really know how to word what i was trying to say anyways. im sorry for getting involved in this, i hope things get better for you <3

[flat nymph]

This sucks and you don't deserve it

[surreal path]

no dont be sorry

u seem like a really cool person

[surreal path]

i know

but

we cant control what happens i suppose

well goodnight im going to bed

hopefully wux finds whats going on with the bug if they have time, if not ill post to the osdev forums for help and irc channel too (irc channel people are really weirdos tho ngl)

[wooden cliff]

oh one more thing real quick i want to say, again i dont know the extent of your history but consider looking into a "psychological evaluation" if you can, this was something i wished that i did sooner and was how i found out im autistic and honestly made things a whole lot clearer for me

[surreal path]

oh i am autistic

i am diagnosed

[wooden cliff]

oh!!

[surreal path]

with clinical depression too

as well as anxiety and emotional regulation issues

my dad has the diagnosis papers

might be more on it idk

anyways night night

[wooden cliff]

goodnight!!

[surreal path]

goodnightt

[plush hearth]

Please don't. People do care about you and would be very sad if you do that. I personally have not felt anything close to what you do now, but things will get better. I can say that as a teenager, it is easy to get worked up about something like this. You're almost an adult. You can make your own decisions about your life very soon.

That isn't saying that you can't already, but you will have more control as an adult.

[edgy pilot]

attempt what

suicide?

[plush hearth]

Reading the messages around, I'd say that he was talking about that

[edgy pilot]

if you don't have hope for the future, believe me that you'll fail once more and it'll feel worse than before

so don't do it

[tender gorge]

@edgy pilot let's not get that detailed

[steady flume]

yeah maybe don't post that

[tender gorge]

@surreal path as someone who has absolutely been there, done that before, trust me when I say it will eventually get better
It may feel like it gets worse, but recovery is absolutely not linear, and it will eventually get better 🫂 💙

[haughty kite]

the colors are like 10 lines of code

thats not even copyrightable

[silver yarrow]

sorry been hectic, lmk when ur up and we can debug this

(if its still a problem, haven't read through the thread)

[edgy pilot]

sorry

hmm I'm insufferable sometimes, aren't I

[tender gorge]

Nah you're not

[coral dove]

no chill 😭

[surreal path]

hey im up now

[surreal path]

thank you

[surreal path]

my sleep schedule has been solved i think

i slept most of the night

i js woke up at 6am

so

we have a normal schedule now i think

[desert haven]

hello there

[surreal path]

hello r4

[desert haven]

hows nyaux going these days?

[surreal path]

well currently dealing with a bug that has been quite diffiuclt to debug

hopefully we will have it solved soon tho

so we can work on the vfs instead of dealing with dumb scheduler/kmutex bugs

[surreal path]

@silver yarrow bug is still there hadn't figured it out yet, since i think my sleep schedule is fixed ish i think we will have no problem now with the time differences between any one of yall being awake

[desert haven]

nice, well good luck with the bug (I might take a peek later if I get the time and remember lol)

[surreal path]

okay lol

[silver yarrow]

I'm in Finland (EET), off work in like four ish hours so lmk

[surreal path]

okok

so 2pm my time

okay ill be ready

[silver yarrow]

it'll probably be closer to 3pm, something came up at work

[surreal path]

okok

[finite summit]

Let's go nyaux is back

[silver yarrow]

ok was trolling I'm omw home now

[surreal path]

alrrrr

[surreal path]

reall

[silver yarrow]

@surreal path

im home

[surreal path]

yoo

hii

[silver yarrow]

vc?

[surreal path]

yess

[fringe loom]

maybe I'll join in ~1h if you don't find the issue

but hopefully it's solved by then

[silver yarrow]

unlikely

its like looking for a needle in a haystack rat nest

I need a therapist after this

[silver yarrow]

@surreal path

https://github.com/rayanmargham/NyauxKC/pull/5

[fringe loom]

what was the issue

[finite summit]

Expected it to be -5000 +5000

[fringe loom]

if there was only one

[finite summit]

Changes

[fringe loom]

lol

[silver yarrow]

thats fixing all the issues

[finite summit]

Ah

[silver yarrow]

I fixed AN issue

check the pr

I added a comment to the one line that actually fixed the issue

it is fucking unbelivable it even kind of worked before

[frigid cliff]

xxxxxx peak variable names

[silver yarrow]

lol

that wasn't really meant to be left in

but it does adhere to the strict coding guidelines of Nyaux so its ok

[frigid cliff]

Considering there is a file in the root called on full of binary with the commit oh my god I can believe that

[silver yarrow]

Basically if it doesn't look like u were high on DMT when writing it, you are doing something wrong

[frigid cliff]

Most of my old code is kinda ok

I think I want to get back into osdev

[rich trellis]

okay what

im seeing the code

why

[frigid cliff]

There is still a todo comment above code that is complete

[frigid cliff]

Basically if it doesn't look like u were high on DMT when writing it, you are doing something wrong

[silver yarrow]

that is genuinely just how nyauxmaster codes

people tried to get him to use clang format but that CLEARLY did not stick

[frigid cliff]

I never realized it’s nyauxKC, why KC?

[silver yarrow]

idk he had a kernel called nyaux thats archived

lol

[frigid cliff]

Oh god what is this

Ive never looked at nyaux code either lol

[silver yarrow]

everytime I "work on" it I have to take about an hour and a half just deciphering

https://github.com/rayanmargham/NyauxKC/blob/master/kernel/src/sched/sched.c#L17-L32 this is my favorite

those functions, of course, are not used anywhere

[frigid cliff]

And they’re

Just empty

[silver yarrow]

[frigid cliff]

Also why not do arch specific stuff in like an arch folder?

[silver yarrow]

oh yeah I love the assembly file that is not in arch/

[rich trellis]

i mean i dont have the best coding style but putting includes between code????

[silver yarrow]

it is a perfect chaos

lol

[frigid cliff]

I SAW THIS TOO

[silver yarrow]

honestly my biggest grudge is that he doesnt stick to snake or camel case

[frigid cliff]

If it works it works

[silver yarrow]

but rather mixes them

[frigid cliff]

I guess he has a system

[silver yarrow]

oh also the struct thread_t is gold

[frigid cliff]

If I was doing a code review I have many issues but if it works it works

[silver yarrow]

(and if u are wondering, no its not typedefed)

[silver yarrow]

honestly it is a miracle that it actually does work

[frigid cliff]

Wheremst

[silver yarrow]

it has more features than my operating system

[silver yarrow]

https://github.com/rayanmargham/NyauxKC/blob/master/kernel/src/sched/sched.h#L23-L34

[frigid cliff]

I see

[flat nymph]

i mean it was running bash before rewrite

pmOS still doesn't

[silver yarrow]

WHAT

HOW

[frigid cliff]

Black magic probably

[flat nymph]

noone knows, but somehow it was

[silver yarrow]

it is so frustrating that I spent a lot of time implementing stuff for uACPI to work (I was missing blocking lmao) and yet Nyaux doubles my score

tbf I havent actually implemented a proper heap etc

but like

[frigid cliff]

Also what is this random folder with a capital letter called Mutexes, isn’t that what utils is for?

[silver yarrow]

lol

the capital letter

[frigid cliff]

It irked me

Because every else is all lowercase, minus uACPI

[silver yarrow]

also calling it mutexes is questionable

locks maybe

like I do common/locks

uACPI is passable

though id name it uacpi

[frigid cliff]

Oh god macros

[supple robin]

erm actually it's µACPI

[frigid cliff]

Same

[silver yarrow]

lol using non-ascii would be par for the course at this point

[frigid cliff]

That would be hell

[hollow goblet]

müACPI

also PR LGTM let's get this merged

[supple robin]

my

[hollow goblet]

no müü acpi

cuz that is the greek letter mü

[kind root]

thats because nyaux was fixed by monkuous

who is the top 1 score

[silver yarrow]

I will get up there

I was trying to test on real hw

and surprise surprise I have broken my bootloader at some point

so I am rewriting that

really wishing I hadnt invested so much time into it at this point

[kind root]

you mean your bootloader?

[silver yarrow]

yes

[kind root]

yeah its like the worst thing to do

[silver yarrow]

it is

so fucking

boring

[kind root]

yup

[silver yarrow]

but I REFUSE to give up now

[kind root]

and im saying this as a person whos invested a year

[silver yarrow]

I mean I program VERY slowly

so with my pace I have prolly worked on this for like 6months ish

[silver yarrow]

mostly cuz I rarely just focus on it and rather multitask

[flat nymph]

Ultra bootloader dead?

[kind root]

it doesnt exist

[flat nymph]

I was considering using it for 32 bit memes

[kind root]

hyper is not dead, no

i will be using it for my kernel

[flat nymph]

Hyper bootloader Ultra protocol

that

[kind root]

yea

[flat nymph]

(I'm getting bored with disk/filesystems already )

[surreal path]

im back

i slept

my bad

[surreal path]

yooo what was the issue exactly

causing the thread duplication issue thing

also less gooo

[silver yarrow]

its in the pr @surreal path

[surreal path]

nahhh

[silver yarrow]

me and mishakov just went "HUHH???" when we saw that

bro idk how it worked even a little before

[surreal path]

at this point

anything can happen

i could see flying pigs from my kernel and id be like

yep normal

[silver yarrow]

real

[surreal path]

real

[silver yarrow]

I ended up leaving most of the stuff the same really, just some cleanup I did ig. Tho I don't think the context switch will work long term

[surreal path]

why so

[silver yarrow]

It's beyond scuffed

creating an interrupt frame just so another part of ur kernel can discard most of it and consume the parts it needs

doesn't make the most sense

but then again it's ur kernel

[surreal path]

understandable

but

my reaction to ur information

https://tenor.com/view/meme-my-honest-reaction-gif-14018431641075398583

[silver yarrow]

lmao

[cinder plinth]

pink floyd mention

[flat nymph]

just revert to the old context switch function

[snow wolf]

if you don't do contexts you don't need to do switches

[surreal path]

morning my beautiful peeps

i want mcdonald

😡

[silver yarrow]

mornin

[surreal path]

no nyaux work until my dad get me mcdonald

😡 😡

[silver yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-mcdonald's-trump-mcdonald's-donald-trump-mcdonald's-trump-fries-gif-8606417426858955120

[surreal path]

nahhh

trump unemployed real

trump just put my fries in the bag bro

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-fries-just-put-my-fries-in-the-bag-bro-mcdonalds-gif-1434514421300750527

[thorny glen]

Looks employed to me

[surreal path]

just put my fries in the bag bro

[silver yarrow]

he got fired

cuz no fries in the bag

[surreal path]

exactly

😡

[edgy pilot]

too much fries

I think it's supposed to be 2/3 of that

maybe even half

[surreal path]

my brother js hit me

in the left shoulder blade

nahhh thats crazyyy

bros nearly 20 while im 17

nahhhh

[thorny glen]

out of curiosity do you use tiktok

[surreal path]

yea

[surreal path]

so

my kernel mutex works perfectly

which is good

it is now time to proceed

to the next todo list for nyaux

we were all waiting for this

its time for

the vfs

😱

i will be spending a lot of time writing userspace functions before i put them as to test out and verify things

basically im gonna write the vfs in userspcae to test and verify

then i will put it in the kernel

i will do this from now on for things that can be done like that

as to avoid bugs

:)

@flat nymph haiii

[flat nymph]

Hi

[surreal path]

haiii

sorry @brazen crater for the ping idk why i pinged u

[surreal path]

are we execited for more nyaux developemtn

[silver yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/parkour-civilization-parkour-minecraft-no-one-chooses-to-jump-for-the-beef-gif-8419525408488879510

[surreal path]

oh yeah @kind root told me to update uacpi

for nyaux

lets do that rqrqr

okay all updated

[kind root]

Well not update

Its not merged yet

But test rather

[surreal path]

ohhhh

this is bad

it seems as if

the kmutex doesnt work

time to pull out gdb

seemingly sometimes it works

sometimes it hangs

seems like a race condition

thing is

it works most of the time

it only breaks 1% of the time

nope i cant recreate it anymore

guess theres no bug

i ran qemu 15 times

no bug

seems to be working fineeee

[surreal path]

test?

what do u mean

@kind root

[kind root]

ill tell u when to update

[surreal path]

can i see the pr at least

[kind root]

its public

[surreal path]

which pr is it

oh i see

[kind root]

yea

[surreal path]

this?

[kind root]

yup

[surreal path]

okayokay

not this garbage

@kind root who told u this was a good idea

[kind root]

the vote

[finite summit]

Let me find the poll for you

[surreal path]

who voted yes

like bro

how do u like this better

[finite summit]

#polls message

[surreal path]

not based mint and streaks and fadanoid and pitust and david and monkuos and avery and friends

😡

[flat nymph]

Avery

[surreal path]

what about her

[edgy pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/democracy-overrated-house-of-cards-government-america-gif-5690168

[flat nymph]

I thought you misspelled every

I need to get checked for dyslexia

[surreal path]

good morning chat

[edgy pilot]

good afternoon

[surreal path]

https://tenor.com/view/rotten-girl-fujoshi-confessions-of-a-rotten-girl-sawtone-miku-gif-1606023595424162998

u

[kind root]

@surreal path uacpi 1.0 is out

[surreal path]

okok

will update

my bad was dealing with the hell hole that was my moms house

[surreal path]

okay

@kind root updated

anyways i go write userspace vfs program to verify things, first a parser for this /test/test/meow

[surreal path]

c strings are pain

[rich trellis]

c strings are goated wdym???

pure flawless design

[surreal path]

bru

goated indian women this time

[ebon needle]

sysret, roblox, eat 4:15, the man

[surreal path]

nah at this point

im asking mr gpt for something that converts /home/blah/w to ["home", "blah", "w"]

cry at me skill issue all u want but i absolutely hate c strings

i hate writing code for it

[ebon needle]

strtok?

[surreal path]

yea

[ebon needle]

Just copy implementation from some libc source code

[tawdry mirage]

not sure this would be any easier with strings with size

[surreal path]

where

[surreal path]

wdym

[ebon needle]

https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/

[surreal path]

thanks

[tawdry mirage]

i don't think the difficulty from doing this comes from the way c strings work specifically

[surreal path]

then whats the difficulty from

[tawdry mirage]

working with strings is just generally annoying

[surreal path]

agreed

[surreal path]

thanks chat

@tawdry mirage especially you qookie

i took it from the musl impl

it might not be as fast as the glibc impl but glibc impl is like crazy

fucking long

😭

plus the license on glibc

not pro

yooo wuxx my man @silver yarrow

how u doinnnn

[rich trellis]

that first string is killing me

[surreal path]

no thats good

i can use that

to do logic

to go back to the parent vnode

😎

[rich trellis]

i would do char str[] for things like that

[surreal path]

its good man

i might need something like nixstrap or jinx now

wait nvm

i need to do a FEW things first

[silver yarrow]

sleeping

morning

[silver yarrow]

it gets decayed to a pointer immediately when he passes it into strtok anyway

[silver yarrow]

chariot supremacy

[finite summit]

Same

[thorn bramble]

i mean

a C string is a regular string with a zero byte to mark where it ends

so, really, you just hate strings..?

[finite summit]

Yes

[thorn bramble]

that is fair

strings can be annoying

[cinder plinth]

Ok now handle trailing slashes

[silver yarrow]

the annoying part is memory handling for strings in C

in a language with garbage collection or RAII or something it's fairly simple

[surreal path]

strtok handles it :)

[flat nymph]

Nobody is stopping you from making a string struct which tracks the length and whatnot

[silver yarrow]

I know

still annoying though

[surreal path]

chat

i slept

and now

im awake

wtf

not again i thought i fixed my sleep schedule

i fell asleep watching this chat

well no i was watching a bunch of videos but when i woke up this was playing

[surreal path]

i lost the code for the nyauxkt

the vfs shit

so i cannot reference that

^dunno what these are yet i forgoten but first things first is to impl a vnode

um excuse me

why does the vnode need a type

type what

[tawdry mirage]

regular/directory/symlink/chardev/blockdev/fifo/socket/etc?

[surreal path]

but shouldnt that be abstracted away

thats bad vfs design

?

@tawdry mirage

[tawdry mirage]

i mean you somehow need to figure out whether you can readdir on the vnode and such

[surreal path]

regular can be file right?

yea ur kinda right

but what does regular mean exactly?

[tawdry mirage]

a regular file

[surreal path]

but people told me ages ago thats horrible vfs design and u should just use lookup instead and the underlying file system should figure out that instead

^

okay wtf is this

what is a direntry

in wux's impl he doesnt have direntrys

@silver yarrow if im correct

reading ur code

now i dont even know whats good and bad vfs design rn 😭

[surreal path]

im so confused whats good and bad vfs design at this point

everyone has different impls

[thorny glen]

there are many ways to do it

[surreal path]

would having the vnode have types like this be ok

and on lookup checking ur vnode

[tawdry mirage]

i don't see how having the type in the vnode fucks with hardlinks

a hardlink just means that readdir returns the same vnode twice

or well, it can mean that

doesn't have to

[thorny glen]

it does not

[surreal path]

is this okay? the tmpfsdir could look like

struct tmpfsnode {
  struct vnode *node;
  char *name;
  void *data; // dir entry would be stored here if it was a directory
}

i think its starting to make sense now

and then

struct direntry {
struct tmpfsnode *siblings // dir -> file -> dir -> file
}

is this a good design

????

anyone know?

@tawdry mirage ?

[tawdry mirage]

in managarm what we do for tmpfs is ```cpp
struct DirectoryNode : Node {
...
std::set<std::shared_ptr<Link>> entries;
}

[surreal path]

but my design for C is okay right? it wont be "bad" or anything

[tawdry mirage]

where a Link is just an (pointer to owner node, name, pointer to target node) tuple essentially

[surreal path]

i just need to know

[surreal path]

you can tell me its bad dw

i just wanna know to improve

[tawdry mirage]

i mean a linked list is gonna suck when you're looking for a file by name in a directory

[surreal path]

yea perfomance wise i guess but

[surreal path]

other then that its decent?

cause i wanna impl this now

[tawdry mirage]

i mean, you can always change this later

it's not like you're carving a stone tablet

[surreal path]

i dont wanna change it later

cause

ill be lazy to

i think its fine anyway

[surreal path]

nyaux can now get the time from the cmos

which is nice

[silver yarrow]

I do not yeah

but also I woudnt vouch for my vfs design

I mean it works fine but

[ebon needle]

wtf

flashbacks from 2016

[ebon needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/829403502349647952/1292284234265919488/attachment-36.gif

[silver yarrow]

jesus lmao

[desert haven]

its a real piece of code

[silver yarrow]

never heard of linked lists or dynamic arrays huh

lmao

[desert haven]

but think of the speed of a raw array

[silver yarrow]

lmao

> delete at index 1
> ...
> rip

[edgy pilot]

profit

[frigid cliff]

Perfect file system code

[frigid cliff]

You just need to add is_allocated to the File structure and you’ll be good

[silver yarrow]

I mean in reality u just change the data structure

[surreal path]

yo wassupp

HEY OLD RAYAN

WHAT TF DOES

CREATE DO

HOW DOES THE VNODE KNOW

IF WE ARE CREATING A FILE OR DIRECTORY

SIR

😡

also i finished the path_absolute() function

using funny strtok

but i need to add more ops

hold on @silver yarrow

ima look at ur code for reference to ur design

oh makes sense

[rich trellis]

maybe a more specific name🥺

like vfs_create

[surreal path]

what

[rich trellis]

i mean if you define it like that it will just be create

and its kinda bad for a function pointer name

[surreal path]

dude

vnode

->

create

vnode->create

[rich trellis]

but like isn't the typedef global?

[surreal path]

jno?

wtf

theres no typedef

this is a function pointer

[rich trellis]

ohh wait

srry

[surreal path]

is fine

[rich trellis]

i thought it was a typedef

[surreal path]

that would be stupid

[ebon needle]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[rich trellis]

i got the EFI syndrome(everything is typedef)

i got a file that is like just 200 function typedefs

i could have just used the EFI headers

but what is the fun in that?

[surreal path]

well

i made the function now

so

now i need to

parse ustar or tmpfs first?

i think ill do tmpfs first

[desert haven]

yeah do tmpfs first, so you can unpack the tar into something 🙂

[surreal path]

if its okay to ask

whats ur github account name

i need to look at reference code

for tmpfs

in terms of design

[desert haven]

I don't have anything fs right now

But it's deanoburrito: my previous tmpfs is here https://github.com/DeanoBurrito/northport/blob/master/kernel/filesystem/TempFs.cpp if you're curious.

[surreal path]

yea i see that

its hard to read

cause i have zero c++

knowledge

[desert haven]

fair enough, tbh it wont be the greatest reference anyway

its pretty meh as far as implementations go anyway

[surreal path]

lemme check cynix

[desert haven]

ah yeah cynix 🙂

any specific questions about the tmpfs?

[surreal path]

well i have a bunch but just wait for a bit

@wicked loom it seems that cynix doesnt have a vfs??? i went through every source directory and i couldnt find anything related to fs

yea i guess ill have to look at my old shitty impl instead

wait

waitwaiwait

nvm

[surreal path]

@desert haven okay so these are my data structres right

the problem is that i dont know how to do the create function

for the tmpfs

ive completely forgot

like

i forgot at this point you know

[desert haven]

haha it happens

[surreal path]

yea

haha

[desert haven]

well create() is quite simple, its allocating and initializing whatever metadata your tmpfs needs for keeping track of a file.

[surreal path]

do u think i need to make a change to any of my data structures though or do they look fine

[desert haven]

that would get you started, assuming struct vnode is how you expose your fs-specific structs to your vfs?

[surreal path]

vnode contains a data field

so yes

[desert haven]

my advice is start with that for now, and then you can add things as you need them

[surreal path]

start with create() yes?

[desert haven]

maybe look at the big operations first, like looking up a node from a path

thats how I would approach it, but you could also start with create()

[surreal path]

ill do create()

[desert haven]

ok 🙂

[surreal path]

@desert haven for create() is it okay to create file if the vnode vtype is reg

or no

?

also do directorys have size

im so confused rn

??

[unkempt relic]

the vnode op should take parameters to say

https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/blob/master/usr/src/uts/common/fs/tmpfs/tmp_vnops.c#L941-L951 here is how it looks in solaris

[surreal path]

its okay me and wux are figuring it out

i nearly got it to create a directory

[unkempt relic]

the vattr parameter contains the needful information

[surreal path]

so close

less goooo

[surreal path]

offset works

as well

less gooo

feint

feintayl 😋

works fine

:)

@kind root lets go?

[kind root]

idk, context?

[surreal path]

i finished working on the vfs and tmpfs

they both work flawlessly

[kind root]

letsgo

[surreal path]

letsgooo

[flat nymph]

[ebon needle]

[silver yarrow]

[coral dove]

Windows NT code fr

[thorny glen]

so true 🤣 it is truly disgusting and barely even works 🤣

[coral dove]

Nt is actually so bad

Why are the system calls so damn dumb too

read() vs ReadFile() 💀

[thorny glen]

ikr'

like whyd they change the name for no reason

[coral dove]

Because they knew they couldn’t be better than *nix so they just decided fck it let’s make our own thing”

[surreal path]

ustar devices how?

??

😭

[tawdry mirage]

because devices are just special files with a special device minor major numbers

if you wanted you could create a second node for your hdd by using mknod to create a device with the right numbers

[thorny glen]

🤣 🤣

you're awesome sauce bro

[desert haven]

sorry for my absence, was sleeping and working 😴

seems like you got it working though, congrats

[surreal path]

i keep eepying

[surreal path]

thanks

!

[ebon needle]

🍷

[haughty kite]

the name isnt important tho?

[surreal path]

yooo

limine

where is my fucking

response

im gonna end u

anyone know whats going on

im following spec in creating a request

and im externing from the request to get the response

where is the response

why it no exist

[supple robin]

what's the config look like

[surreal path]

but lit

just this chat

i didnt pass a module

but i should get a response

at least

spec didnt mention me NOT getting a response so

[supple robin]

no

[surreal path]

wdym unsupported

or not processed

WHAT MAKES IT PROCESS

😭

[supple robin]

bro?

[edgy pilot]

pass a module and check if it gets initialised

[supple robin]

no modules
not processed

[edgy pilot]

hmmmm I don't think I pass any modules but it's still initialised for me

nyaux might be doing some skill issue

[supple robin]

@surreal path what version of limine do you have

[surreal path]

like

lemme check

dude

https://tenor.com/view/shaggy-scooby-doo-running-fast-drive-gotta-go-gif-14155314728659512405

is 2025

git says its latest

[supple robin]

are you dumb

[supple robin]

you could've just ran it 😭

[surreal path]

no

its latest

[surreal path]

e

its on github anyway check if ur also getting the skill issue

[surreal path]

how mr minecraft man

[supple robin]

i'm not because i check responses for presence

[edgy pilot]

[edgy pilot]

can you show me the definition of the request

[supple robin]

here

[edgy pilot]

hmmm should you be setting revision? I don't think that's an issue but isn't that set by the bootloader

[supple robin]

no

it's set by the executable