instead of debian gnu/linux
#Astral
fierce forge
how difficult would it be to reimplement gnu/mach api? 
analog berry
true lol
if keyronex had a mesa port id do that probably
or if mintia had an x86 port
although that uses a weird lang
yeah idk which kernel to pick
fleet osprey
I love how astral kinda just turned into the sandbox os for other projects (e.g. uacpi) 
grand shadow
I love how astral kinda just turned into the sandbox os for other projects (e.g....
If only
analog berry
If only
meson --cross-file ${base_dir}/util/crossfile --prefix=${prefix} --buildtype=release -Dplatforms=x11 -Dglx=xlib -Dgallium-drivers=swrast -Dvulkan-drivers= -Dllvm=enabled -Dvalgrind=disabled -Dlibunwind=disabled ..
This is how u currently build mesa right
Do u know how to enable all the drm shit?
grand shadow
I dont but you can probably look at the blfs page for mesa
analog berry
thanks
flat copper
yeah, found it and mint fixed it last week
https://github.com/mintsuki/flanterm/commit/b16d2649c02af0104392ff47263626e5ea6ca8a5
grand shadow
Astralbros undefeated once more
flat copper
Astralbros undefeated once more
got another issue which might be in mlibc but i couldnt be bothered to debug it
box drawing characters in ncursesw get fucked with TERM=linux somehow
grand shadow
When I get motivation to work on this project again its over for everyone else
feral depot
When I get motivation to work on this project again its over for everyone else
i eat cement does that help?
grand shadow
How does cement taste like
feral depot
How does cement taste like
very tasty and crunchy
obsidian pivot
When I get motivation to work on this project again its over for everyone else
Hint: killall -9 cogmind
grand shadow
Does wine need siginfo bs
@carmine swallow
I think you were the one who ported wine to managarm
carmine swallow
I don't remember for sure, I think it needs ucontext at least
did you try it btw?
grand shadow
I was thinking of trying it for the memes
carmine swallow
from what I remember managarm already had siginfo and was just missing ucontext but idk if it needs siginfo
I mean its not that hard to try and see if it works or not lol
grand shadow
Yeah true
fierce forge
ucontext is like 30 lines of assembly?
carmine swallow
its not really even any extra asm, you just have to save the registers from the point in the thread where the signal was raised (a pagefault frame or whatever) to the user stack before jumping to the signal handler and then when the signal handler returns you modify the syscall frame using registers loaded from the user stack (where the ucontext is)
or well ig that depends on how exactly you implement it but at least that's one way on a monolithic kernel
carmine swallow
yeah I guess in that case, but you already need to restore the regs so its not really any extra asm?
like for sigreturn
fierce forge
Yeah
carmine swallow
you just have to make sure that the saved stuff matches the ucontext layout
fierce forge
But anyway, it's just 3 functions which save and restore registers, it should be quick to implement
grand shadow
I mean its not that hard to try and see if it works or not lol
Also does wine need ldt bullshit for 32 bits windows apps?
carmine swallow
pretty sure yeah as it has to change the cpu mode
I didn't do that on managarm so I don't really know that much about it other than what I saw in the source
grand shadow
Wonder how bad it is to implement
carmine swallow
I wouldn't think its that bad, you do need some kind of syscall for the ldt stuff
grand shadow
I can probably shove it in the astral archctl syscall
carmine swallow
and I think it needs two builds of wine and you point the second build to the first while configuring or something like that to actually build wow64 support (if you don't want to have 32-bit system libs)
grand shadow
Wtf
inland cliff
Help
Got 400k robots on Nauvis and I forgot to run a green wire so after a day over 1M solid fuel was produced and I had to place more yellow chests and that turned into pixel soup very quickly
obsidian pivot
In real life?
inland cliff
In real life?
There's a fake one??
grand shadow
what the fuck
fierce forge
wsl?
carmine swallow
yeah that's kinda weird, ig you have to explicitly specify it using --build or whatever
grand shadow
it doesnt let you use --build 💀
fierce forge
wsl2 is just ubuntu in hyperv vm
(or other distro)
why does it even need a wsl target?
carmine swallow
it doesnt let you use --build 💀
what does it give
grand shadow
what does it give
legacy cross-compilation flags is not supported.
You specified: --openjdk-target=x86_64-astral and --build.
The recommended use is just --openjdk-target.```bruh
I wonder if you can just hack it somehow so it thinks the build machine is linux
grand shadow
thats what I'll probably try to do
carmine swallow
you could probably add ```
-wsl*)
os=echo $os | sed -e 's|wsl|linux-gnu|'
;;
copying config.guess alongside config.sub fixed it
carmine swallow
ah, nice
carmine swallow
reminds me that I should get back to uhda and try to fix the astral integration (and figure out how you are actually supposed to associate (or just figure out which ones of them are ones that should be exposed as individual things to the user) the billion speakers in the laptop that I have to the actual physical speakers, though I am not completely sure if that's handled by the hda driver or is that some sst bs that's passed in some config fw file)
and fix the volume computation lol, rn I divide the max value (which is at max like 127) by 100 and multiply that by the percent which is pretty inaccurate (and if the max happens to be less than 100 then I just set one percent to equal 1 and clamp the range so it stays in the supported range)
carmine swallow
well the one issue I already kinda figured out and told you (that it was just having a too small buffer size)
then I think the another one was that the reset is broken or something (as in when you stop the playback in the middle using ctrl c and restart)
grand shadow
I started implementing a new feature today maybe were so back?
I still cannot for the life of me find whats the relation between shutdown() and poll() in posix like what a poll would return after shutdown
robust geyser
POLLHUP/POLLNVAL?
winged basin
it's highly debatable
robust geyser
it's not supposed to make sense
it's supposed to be spec compliant
whatever that means
winged basin
the spec doesn't define it
robust geyser
too bad
it does for epoll
switch to the better alternative (jk)
only if epoll wasn't linux specific
winged basin
linux favours pollhup in a lot of cases but a lot of other kernels favour both POLLIN|POLLHUP or just POLLIN
errant zephyr
POLLIN makes more sense imo
prime juniper
only if epoll wasn't linux specific
just implement it lol
supple hatch
astral dead real?
feral depot
i eat cement
proper meteor
i eat cement
prove it
eager copper
that's no proof
hearty fulcrum
i eat cement
how do you withstand the pain
feral depot
how do you withstand the pain
crunchy
feral depot
https://tenor.com/view/cat-crunch-cranch-meow-cute-gif-17368992236901678436
exactly
grand shadow
astral dead real?
it was dead before it even began
grand shadow
alright so
the reason why uacpi init seems to be so damn slow is the allocator
my mutex is fine, avg 41 per acquire and 39 per release
average alloc() is giving 1139
a lot of time seems to be inside alloc() itself
as slab_allocate is at 844
mapping is also horrible, 50k avg
free is also a big culprit, 2k per free
yeah this is super slow
grand shadow
doing this on wsl sucks, its so inconsistent
grand shadow
I think the final push I am missing is lto
atm on my craptop its 1.75mil
I should probably update uacpi
oh the pci api changed
@analog berry did any other apis change
grand shadow
alr ty
grand shadow
yeah I'm this close to just rewriting the entire allocator
grand shadow
yeah this is the best I can do today, if anyone with a good computer wants to try out and get the score
qemu-system-x86_64 -cdrom astral.iso -M q35 -enable-kvm -cpu host,migratable=off
fervent fjord
4.5M
grand shadow
holy
fervent fjord
my computer is a nuclear powerplant
ill pass you the bill
but fair warning, we do financing too
grand shadow
🪙 🪙
feral depot
yeah this is the best I can do today, if anyone with a good computer wants to tr...
like the acpi aml blob load?
if yes then got: 3.3M
grand shadow
Damn theres such a big disparity based on cpu speed
feral depot
i have this (3.3M)
carmine swallow
wild marsh
vmm: no range
grand shadow
yeah I print that whenever I have to send a SIGSEGV
wild marsh
ah
carmine swallow
this is what it says within the bash window
grand shadow
damn yeah its the segfault
grand shadow
if you add PRINT_CTX(ctx) in the mmu page fault handler after it raises the sigsegv what does it say
carmine swallow
also idk where have all the library dependencies gone in factorio 2, I took a look at it and it only has the libc dependencies whereas factorio 1 has all the deps on eg. pulseaudio and whatever
grand shadow
inb4 statically linked
grand shadow
report it on the factorio forum
so true
wild marsh
i wouldn't be surprised
grand shadow
"hey guys I need help it crashes on this os I'm trying out what does this mean"
wild marsh
"oh yeah guys im using this shim to run glibc software on a different libc"
carmine swallow
if you add PRINT_CTX(ctx) in the mmu page fault handler after it raises the sigs...
Ill try
wild marsh
how large of a stack are you giving it?
grand shadow
I give like 2mb I think?
grand shadow
I give 4mb actually
yeah true
@carmine swallow go to elf.c and increase the stack size
wild marsh
still strange that it uses that much stack space
grand shadow
yeah
analog berry
it's probably an infinite recursion or OOB
grand shadow
that looks like its using more than 1 gb
carmine swallow
its still the same
carmine swallow
also re the libs maybe it dynamically loads them because the names for them are still in the executable
grand shadow
I wonder if my ucontext is different from the linux one in some way and thats causing it to write a 32 bit int in the bottom dword of rbp
no it seems to be the same
hearty fulcrum
"oh yeah guys im using this shim to run glibc software on a different libc"
ask them to compile it with mlibc
grand shadow
ok yeah it seems to be different?
sizeof(ucontext) in the host is 968 but in astral its 424
feral depot
<:nooo:750466870993223750>
wait, you can play factorio in this os???????? was ported/supported?????
omg
that is gigachad
carmine swallow
well no it doesn't work lol, the attempt to run it in wine got further than this
grand shadow
I think it crashed at the same point?
formal patio
what the cogs do to a man
carmine swallow
I think it crashed at the same point?
well it did create a window and print some version info + gl info no?
grand shadow
yeah
carmine swallow
yeah its likely not the same place
grand shadow
its the same as the mlibc one, let me see if the mlibc one is the same size as astral's
yeah astral's is the same
grand shadow
also this seems to be from a library
(unless factorio gets loaded there)
wtf
it tries to create the file and then complains that it doesnt exist???
carmine swallow
NtCreateFile can also be used to open file
carmine swallow
is the kernel32 file in the wineprefix
grand shadow
the wineprefix doesnt even get made yet
it crashes before it even makes the wineprefix
carmine swallow
ah
grand shadow
the reason is baffling me
^[[0m0024:warn:file:NtCreateFile L"\\??\\Z:\\root\\kernel32.dll" not found (c0000034)
it tries to get kernel32.dll in the cwd
carmine swallow
but didn't it work before
grand shadow
but didn't it work before
yeah but adding the i386 arch borked it ig
carmine swallow
is this for the 64-bit one or the 32-bit one?
grand shadow
weirdly enough it does find it in the /lib/wine folder before that but after it dies
grand shadow
is this for the 64-bit one or the 32-bit one?
64bit I think
grand shadow
weirdly enough it does find it in the /lib/wine folder before that but after it ...
like if you look in the logs it does successfully open it at an earlier time but then it forgets that it exists and checks a weird dir
so weird
its in loader-init in the load_dll(NULL, L"kernel32.dll", ...)
I suppose the library search path is borked somehow?
grand shadow
so the wine it starts has the right default_load_path but the wine I start doesnt
hmmmm
wonder if I'm missing an env or something
grand shadow
yeah, if I set WINEPATH it doesnt die there
grand shadow
by moving my general allocator code into the same file as the slab allocator I got 100k for uacpi on my laptop
errant zephyr
by moving my general allocator code into the same file as the slab allocator I g...
build with -flto lol
grand shadow
it dies if I do and I really dont feel like debugging that💀
proper meteor
it dies if I do and I really dont feel like debugging that💀
that means you have UB somewhere
for me it was because of pointer provenance issues
errant zephyr
lto seems to be more sensitive to ub than o3
yes, if you let the compiler optimize more it will optimize out incorrect code more often
grand shadow
lto breaks the printf I use when running on tcg
wtf
printf("response: %d\n", 1); triple faults
maybe I need to pick another printf
analog berry
Whats your printf
analog berry
maybe I need to pick another printf
Hijack the one shipped with uacpi 💀
grand shadow
mpaland
grand shadow
Hijack the one shipped with uacpi 💀
so true
analog berry
Lol
grand shadow
analog berry
I guess its actually shit
analog berry
strange that it has so many stars but dies under lto
winged basin
i like nanoprintf
they do it the right way with functions that accept putchar callbacks
hearty fulcrum
https://github.com/mpaland/printf
I have this
works fine with lto
and is actively maintained
analog berry
https://github.com/eyalroz/printf
its a fork lol
hearty fulcrum
yep
grand shadow
I'll take a look at it at some point
analog berry
whatever u do dont use stb printf
it doesnt implement precision correctly
if your uacpi segfaults im not responsible
analog berry
is this expected?
analog berry
giving it 8g instead of 4g solved it
how is astral so big lmao
whats strange is this is the defaults for astral
yay new uacpi on astral
robust geyser
"g" right below "y" and "a" right next to "s"
grand shadow
You can probably build it with DISTROTYPE=minimal if youre just uacping
grand shadow
You can also just make a disk image with make disk and do make run-disk-kvm
Saves inittd loading time
Or one day I could take the 9pill and just have a 9pfs run directly from the sysroot folder.....
analog berry
i should've probably asked u...
grand shadow
I mean I wasnt awake 5 hours ago
obsidian pivot
https://github.com/Mathewnd/Astral/blob/rewrite/kernel-src%2Fio%2Fnet%2Floopback.c#L59
@grand shadow this line is technically invalid since loopback IP addresses are 127.0.0.0/8 and not just 127.0.0.1
although I don't think anything really uses other IPs in that subnet as loopback
grand shadow
hm it could be an issue
in the routing table its correct but this probably breaks in the ipv4 receive
obsidian pivot
wait why would the IP even be stored in the NIC data structure
I would expect that to only be in the routing table...
grand shadow
I forgor
pine ledge
yeah this is the best I can do today, if anyone with a good computer wants to tr...
3.9M
Sorry I didn’t know the thread was that old 😭😭
fleet osprey
no astral updates in a week, dead os /j
cyan junco
no astral updates in a week, dead os <:meme:575445094589661215> /j
sadly
crude agate
chat it's been an hour and it's still compiling the project (i'm using -j8)
hearty fulcrum
you clearly need to upgrade to a 128 core cpu and a terabyte of ram
crude agate
Also directory's like 14gib rn
crude agate
that's perfectly normal temp under high load
uhmm it reached 90°C
hearty fulcrum
it's fine
carmine swallow
the point where you should be getting worried about it is when it gets above 100c or something like that
crude agate
oke
hearty fulcrum
if it does, it'll just thermal throttle
carmine swallow
and even then it will just throttle itself so its fine unless you have no cooler at all in which case its just going to do a thermal shutdown at some point
yeah
hearty fulcrum
no damage will be done
neon crane
Also directory's like 14gib rn
what the fuck
theres definitely some resource leak or maybe you are compiling ALL of astral's ports
hearty fulcrum
I can't imagine using Linux in any other language than English
imagine googling errors
crude agate
Idk if you know how to translate them then you're good
Also
Most of program errors are in english
neon crane
analog berry
Me after compiling managarm
crude agate
I had 500mb free
grand shadow
Just download more disk space
neon crane
Just download more disk space
wherefrom
fierce forge
Just download more disk space
I've recently seen a video about swapping to google drive
opal lotus
@grand shadow do you use the tsc as your main timer?
grand shadow
<@215823874615541761> do you use the tsc as your main timer?
for timekeeping yes
opal lotus
because i think your calibration without hpet is a bit weird
you do ecx * ebx / eax, but wikipedia says you have to do ecx * (ebx / eax)
grand shadow
you do ecx * ebx / eax, but wikipedia says you have to do ecx * (ebx / eax)
isnt that literally the same thing
fierce forge
you loose precision (?)
grand shadow
second one does
- x = ebx / eax
- ecx * x
which results in the same thing but less precise lol
grand shadow
in the sdm it says “TSC frequency” = “core crystal clock frequency” * EBX/EAX.
opal lotus
idk i just read this
grand shadow
I mean if you use floats it would give the same result in both cases, but I think that in the ebx/eax one it'd be less precise if you dont
opal lotus
i'm confuzzled
whatever i'm computing is not in Hz
@grand shadow what's a normal value to come out of this calculation
grand shadow
idk none of my computers support it
opal lotus
qemu?
hearty fulcrum
qemu?
I have it and it's not supported on qemu
at least not enabled by default, there might be some flag to turn it on
opal lotus
yea what about it
hearty fulcrum
I have it and it's not supported on qemu
^
opal lotus
super weird
candid gale
hearty fulcrum
super weird
use kvm pvclock to get the frequency
opal lotus
... i may have omitted the leaf presence check lol
hearty fulcrum
lol
neon crane
<@215823874615541761> what's a normal value to come out of this calculation
1000 mhz
iirc that's what my VM gave me
opal lotus
fun
feral depot
https://tenor.com/view/pou-sad-rain-shower-depressed-gif-670686772125037083
mul is more precise but when doing mul with floating it is not precise
2 float operation vs 1
2 less precise then 1
?
am i correct?
fierce forge
no (?)
hearty fulcrum
ok my brain no work
probably due to all that cement you have been eating
feral depot
probably due to all that cement you have been eating
no way, it is super helthy that is what my cat told me
bronze nexus
i eat cement
nixstrap shill == cat confirmed
tribal dust
we eat cement
proper meteor
i eat cement
prove it
feral depot
nixstrap shill == cat confirmed
i dont know him
hearty fulcrum
~~wait wrong account~~
alt?
feral depot
no?
lean kettle
feral depot
i am telling you they are blaming me
feral depot
hearty fulcrum
im not an alt
that's what an alt would say
feral depot
; -;
warped plinth
warped plinth
feral depot
<:nooo:750466870993223750> ~~wrong account~~
i am going to eat your walls
no house?
warped plinth
beboop
opal lotus
dead chat
proper meteor
ded
feral depot
no i ate the walls
grand shadow
dead os
opal lotus
real
fleet osprey
the os is 
grand shadow
Dead body reported
I have been super busy with many things
Which then leave me with no energy for programming
proper meteor
Which then leave me with no energy for programming
pro tip: give up on real life
(don't)
analog berry
(do)
fierce forge
Who needs a life when you can do osdev
hearty fulcrum
there's no don't without do
feral depot
fierce forge
GregTech?
grand shadow
greg
hearty fulcrum
astral is alive
fleet osprey
astral is alive
grand shadow
You gotta crawl before you can walk
proper meteor
You gotta crawl before you can walk
Astral running Minecraft when
warped plinth
going to install this on a laptop and attempt to daily drive it
warped plinth
why not?
warped plinth
lynx :^)
warped plinth
i don't think it's very rich in drivers.
this is a good point tho
hearty fulcrum
going to install this on a laptop and attempt to daily drive it
I thought this was nyaux thread lmfao
formal patio
Managarm is somewhat daily-drivable
supple hatch
Managarm is somewhat daily-drivable <:meme:575445094589661215>
gaming tho 
formal patio
We have qemu
You could just finish up czapek's KVM work
And wire up vfio ioctls for good perf
grand shadow
proper meteor
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/631946399327453192/1387589774218494065/ca...
Why
supple hatch
You could just finish up czapek's KVM work
ah yes, very easy
warped plinth
Ps2 doesn't work
playstation 2 no worki qwq
fleet osprey
👀
grand shadow
I'm working on redoing the kernel initialization
no more infinite _init() calls
just gotta redo the dependency lists I made because I nuked some useless init calls
charred sinew
are you planning to do a rewrite or extending astral
analog berry
yeah dont
robust geyser
imagine not rewriting your kernel every time you touch it
opal lotus
imagine not rewriting your kernel every time you touch it
couldn't be me
grand shadow
didnt do anything today because gregtech
analog berry
which tier
grand shadow
which tier
hv
grand shadow
lmao yeah
cant wait for AE2 so I can actually start playing factorio in minecraft
I already have some simple stuff automated like benzene (for power), ingot cooling, polyethylene, oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen, rubber and stone + sand + gravel + obsidian
and gold/redstone
because I'm not fucking mining for gold
but I desire more automation
analog berry
cant wait for AE2 so I can actually start playing factorio in minecraft
Setting that up is certainly fun
grand shadow
U do ic2?
yeah my bf did a bunch of crop breeding to try to get useful crops
so I just made a glowshroom farm to get glowstone to get redstone/gold
analog berry
Ah
grand shadow
I already have some simple stuff automated like benzene (for power), ingot cooli...
oh and a SiO2 -> Si + O2 line and a solar grade silicon line
analog berry
Yeah
grand shadow
okok I cannot let this die
tomorrow I will finish what I am doing and then start looking into reworking my device driver stuff since it kinda goes hand to hand with what I am doing
grand shadow
U should also automate fluorine since you'll need tons for PTFE
I made a ptfe line and yeah I can see that now
sage locust
Astral ftw
warped plinth
feral depot
i can see this reviving frfr
supple hatch
tomorrow I will finish what I am doing and then start looking into reworking my ...
tmrw btw
so where astral work
grand shadow
Im currentlly busy being gay sorry
supple hatch
Im currentlly busy being gay sorry
crazy
fierce forge
Im currentlly busy being gay sorry
I recently went to a gay club for the first time and it was something else
prime juniper
I’ve always been told that gay bars and other LGBTQIA+ establishments are loads of fun even for straight people. Never went to one tho
fierce forge
It was also the first time I went to a club in general
prime juniper
That’s an interesting first club experience then
fierce forge
But somehow I went to a straight club a week later and perhaps it was because it was overcrowded, but I felt like the energy was not it
fierce forge
That’s an interesting first club experience then
My best friend (from Russia) came to visit me (and after having enough homophobia there) had (finally) made me leave the house and took me to a bunch of queer places
prime juniper
But somehow I went to a straight club a week later and perhaps it was because it...
Yeah they are a different energy
If you’ve tried clubs, but not your thing, a bar is different from a club and there are many types of bars. I’m more a bar person
prime juniper
My best friend (from Russia) came to visit me (and after having enough homophobi...
Sounds fun! Glad you enjoyed it
fierce forge
I feel like it's just difficult for me to socialize in general
(like I haven't been to bars a lot either)
The clubs seem fine, but I feel like it's not the place where you could go often
prime juniper
I feel like it's just difficult for me to socialize in general
Relatable
prime juniper
(like I haven't been to bars a lot either)
Go with friends, that’s probably easier especially for a first time
prime juniper
The clubs seem fine, but I feel like it's not the place where you could go often
Oh yeah I couldn’t do that 2 times a week every week. And I know people that do more
grand shadow
cooking something (assert expected)
only these two are hooked for now but I think I got the logic done and can start hooking up the rest to it
#define INIT_ROUTINE_DEFINE(name_, flags_, fn_, ...) \
its pretty simple
name is name, flags is flags, fn is function and ... is deps
works with stuff on other files and all
and then you call one of these and it will do its job
void init_run_routine(init_routine_t *routine);
void init_run_all_routines(void)
I think I'm not gonna keep the print though, seems to really clutter the logs
hooked enough to get the scheduler running
I will finish the rest tomorrow
supple hatch
balling
warped plinth
BALLIN
opal lotus
and then you call one of these and it will do its job
```c
void init_run_routine...
what does init_routine_t entail?
is it like a dependency tree?
analog berry
grand shadow
is it like a dependency tree?
Yeah
analog berry
cooking something (assert expected)
Btw, maybe instead of building a hashtable you should implement something like I did (which I stole from Linux) where u just do int x; parameter(x); and that creates a struct in a special section of such structs that u can just iterate and match parameters
grand shadow
Hm true that way I could have it parsed before any allocator is initialized
analog berry
I do it specifically because it allows me to define early_parameter()
Which is how I set the early console
opal lotus
Which is how I set the early console
do you also have a macro for early consoles
i have this
analog berry
do you also have a macro for early consoles
not anymore
opal lotus
why
opal lotus
how do you know which earlycons are available
analog berry
do u mean on the userside or on the kernel side?
opal lotus
kernel i guess
analog berry
for e9 it checks that it's in a hypervisor and that in(0xE9) == 0xE9
for serial u have to trust the user that they know a com1 exists for example
hearty fulcrum
can't you check it with acpi
analog berry
it's an early console
hearty fulcrum
oh yeah lol
analog berry
it's set up way before anything else
opal lotus
for serial u have to trust the user that they know a com1 exists for example
no like
how does the kernel know about the console
it needs to somehow resolve earlycon=serial for example
analog berry
this is what i have now
earlycon_set will be called automatically here
which will call register_console()
or do u mean how it finds the parameter?
opal lotus
what i do is i just have an earlycon_setup which scans all early console names and tries to find the one specified by the command line
analog berry
static error_t earlycon_set(struct string mode, struct param *p)
{
error_t ret;
struct string *cur = p->value;
ret = earlycon_destroy();
if (is_error(ret))
return ret;
if (str_equals_caseless(mode, EARLYCON_MODE_NONE)) {
*cur = EARLYCON_MODE_NONE;
return EOK;
}
if (str_equals_caseless(mode, EARLYCON_MODE_E9)) {
ret = e9_console_init();
if (is_error(ret))
return ret;
*cur = EARLYCON_MODE_E9;
goto out_ok;
}
if (str_equals_caseless(mode, EARLYCON_MODE_VGA)) {
ret = vga_text_console_init();
if (is_error(ret))
return ret;
*cur = EARLYCON_MODE_VGA;
goto out_ok;
}
return EINVAL;
out_ok:
pr_info("using '%pS' as the early console\n", cur);
return EOK;
}
Does this help?
opal lotus
yeah so you just hardcode the earlycons
analog berry
yeah, all early consoles live in earlycon.c
opal lotus
right, i do that dynamically
analog berry
i also stole that from linux
i thought if it works for them it will work for me as well
opal lotus
analog berry
ohh ok so u have like a deeper layer
i thought it was overkill honestly
but its fine ig
like imo all early consoles you will have will be tiny
and they will be arch specific
analog berry
btw i see that u pass a null terminated string, do u destroy the command line in-place?
opal lotus
yes
analog berry
ah
do u have any way to diffirentiate between early vs late options?
or e.g. set an integer option
opal lotus
i did that before, but now i leave the parsing up to the option
i do have atoi and the sort though
opal lotus
because im now doing a microkernel, most will be propagated to the user space processes anyways
analog berry
fair
opal lotus
and those can just be argv and such
opal lotus
i'm still thinking about what to do. my idea was to propagate all options with a prefix to the respective server
analog berry
that makes sense
opal lotus
like posix.dev_automount would go to posix as dev_automount
opal lotus
my plan is for menix to be completely freestanding, despite being a microkernel system
so you can build it without a real cross compiler
carmine swallow
I kinda want to try doing kotlin servers for my ukernel
analog berry
thats cool
opal lotus
it's annoying because i ended up spending 90% of my time thinking about how to approach things instead of just writing code
analog berry
u just needed to write 999999999 more loc
opal lotus
which (as you've already seen) is not the case in C
analog berry
then you would see solutions in your mind
opal lotus
i literally pushed out like 120 files in one commit
opal lotus
one thing i don't really know yet is how i want to approach cross server IPC
analog berry
thats something no one knows probably
analog berry
yeah
opal lotus
atm i'm thinking of doing a msglink and datalink which is for sending messages/objects and bytes respectively
carmine swallow
I kinda want to try doing kotlin servers for my ukernel
also I already did start making that, I basically just copied what I had for my new crescent2 c rewrite removing all nt stuff and I made an ipc generator similar to mach mig where you write stuff like this ```c
msg_id_start 0
#include <bruh.h>
proc create_window(server: ipc_port_t, window: out ipc_port_t, width: i32, height: i32)
proc set_window_pos(window: ipc_port_t, x: i32, y: i32)
proc destroy_window(window: ipc_port_t)
cool
analog berry
yeah
opal lotus
what's an ipc_port here? just a message channel?
also for my ipc i'm just going to use regular headers
no fancy dpl
analog berry
thats gonna get annoying quickly
hand writing the same code in different permutations in different places etc
carmine swallow
what's an ipc_port here? just a message channel?
basically yeah, though I haven't actually implemented any of that stuff yet lol
opal lotus
same 
grand shadow
My roadmap is kinda finish init rework -> redo device drivers -> rewrite scheduler
With an openrc port somewhere inbetween
Maybe after I finish the init rework
supple hatch
With an openrc port somewhere inbetween
you can borrow steal me and marvins recipes for openrc
hearty fulcrum
grand shadow
Menix more like minex
opal lotus
grand shadow
alright I think everything is hooked up
boots into fvwm and all
was wondering why networking was borked but then noticed I forgot to hook arp up
saw people talking about porting lua in nyaux thread so I decided to try to see if astral could download and compile it and it works
too lazy to make it a real recipe, if you need lua just wget it
(once I update the certs)
analog berry
Daamn nice
fleet osprey
Based
analog berry
saw people talking about porting lua in nyaux thread so I decided to try to see ...
Why is uwu printed in the middle?
grand shadow
that happens with python too
I think its just an xterm thing yah I remember python being normal in flanterm
robust geyser
python built with readline?
if so then that's weird
unless you/xterm doesn't set the TERM env properly
grand shadow
accidentally ran make clean and have to rebuild everything we do not speak of this again
sage locust
saw people talking about porting lua in nyaux thread so I decided to try to see ...
dammmmmn
prime juniper
saw people talking about porting lua in nyaux thread so I decided to try to see ...
Nice! I should try that too
supple hatch
saw people talking about porting lua in nyaux thread so I decided to try to see ...
ballinggg
grand shadow
Now I am actually debating whether I should do device rework or scheduler rewrite next
I think a better scheduler would be a priority
fleet osprey
~~fix PS/2 kbds ~~
grand shadow
never
grand shadow
Im writing a very barebones and questionable serial driver because I have mostly been developing astral over ssh lately and I would rather just be able to run commands on the terminal
Its just gonna be something to set up the serial port, set up irqs for it, create a tty device and have agetty or something on userspace take over it
analog berry
U could virtio console if you wanted it to be fast
grand shadow
Ehh might as well have a basic serial driver I can expand later on
Plus Im using uacpi to find them to make you proud :3
grand shadow
I do
The only thing I dont do is enumerate the entire namespace recursivelt etc etc thats for the device rework
grand shadow
alright its all hooked up to the kernel, just gotta configure the actual serial controller
and write tx/rx
grand shadow
Reading the ule paper again
supple hatch
epic
grand shadow
I have been playing so much rainworld I instinctively have been writing "iterator" instead of "iteration"
grand shadow
well good news and bad news!
good news: I get to a shell
bad news: everything is horrendously slow
system wide
so there is 100% some irq funkiness happening
ohhhh
it was not irq funkiness
it was something so much stupider
and slightly funny
I had two inits running
forgot to remove a fork after I changed another function in init
so it kinda just started xorg twice
along with fvwm and all that crap
there we go
qemu does capture ^C and similar which is annoying
as in, ^C affects qemu
grand shadow
Well done
finally something in astral that uses uacpi for something other than power and tables
grand shadow
dont have anything I can use serial on :p
analog berry
inb4 ps/2 curse but for serial
grand shadow
😭
grand shadow
I have 2 x86 boxes w/ RS232
x86-64?
fleet osprey
yeah
fleet osprey
Dell Optiplex 755 (Core 2 Duo E8400)
Dell Precision T1650 (Xeon E3-1240 v2)
grand shadow
Dell Optiplex 755 (Core 2 Duo E8400)
Dell Precision T1650 (Xeon E3-1240 v2)
do you remember if astral actually boots on these at all
I remember you trying it out
fleet osprey
iirc it failed with some issue on the Optiplex
it booted on the Precision but no keyboard
could be wrong though, my memory is ass
grand shadow
wasnt the optiplex issue some ventoy stuff
fleet osprey
nah even once it was past that it failed iirc
anyways if you can toss me an image I'll try it
all of my good hardware is currently busy so it'd take eons to compile from source
grand shadow
will do once I finish this
@fleet osprey what do you usually run the serial ports on, like baud rate parity etc
fleet osprey
usually 115200 8n1
though I can do anything
if you want to set it to 9600 or whatever that's fine
got that image yet? gtg in a few min, and I'd need to test it after I'm back
fleet osprey
👍
alright, just ping me w/ it whenever it's ready and I'll get to it when I get a chance
grand shadow
grand shadow
usually 115200 8n1
astral default is 38400 8n1, pick the initrd option
alright the serial port is pushed time to do irl stuff
if this works in real hardware I will be amazed I dont think I did a very good implementation considering its the first time I wrote a serial driver
if it works the only two theoretical ways to interact with astral that works would be ssh and serial
(real nic driver not included)
fleet osprey
Dw I vibe coded my serial driver back in the day of TFOS (iirc 2021?) using whatever godawful model OpenAI was shipping back then and it still worked
It'll be fine
grand shadow
it doesnt print anything wrt init to serial, so the only thing you should be seeing is a login prompt
fleet osprey
Ok testing in a few min
flashing to a USB rn
it just hangs
no limine
wasn't there a consensus ages ago that you were making the image wrong or something
yeah
(damn almost a year ago)
@grand shadow
grand shadow
Damn
grand shadow
it just hangs
On both computers?
fleet osprey
haven't checked on the Precision
that one might actually work since it has UEFI
one sec
fleet osprey
lmao
lmao yeah the Precision says it outright when I try to legacy boot it
let me try UEFI
hey mathewnd did you know that PS/2 doesn't work on here
anyways I am big dumb and forgot to move the serial cable over to the new machine
fleet osprey
lmao
so I get loopback from Astral
but no login prompt
at least after hotplugging it
grand shadow
hotplug is not really gonna work I dont think
fleet osprey
lmfao I pressed the power button and got a div by 0
fleet osprey
grand shadow
ok a ringbuffer somewhere is not being initialized at all during init
assuming somewhere in the depths of acpi
fleet osprey
fleet osprey
lol
grand shadow
probably a better idea to just put it to init in acpi_init
did you get anything now
grand shadow
wtf
grand shadow
it should be 38400 baud
maybe the way I do it is just too slow in real hw
might be it
actually yeah its defo that
I dont do fifo buffering yet
grand shadow
so it has to wait for the interrupt to send the next char
grand shadow
I had music playing in the bg, cope, seethe, mald <:trl:829316641191886888>
amazing
hey at least its running in real hardware
I'll implement the fifo buffering stuff if not today then tomorrow and annoy you to see if it got any faster
oh yeah
I gotta give you the usb image
fleet osprey
so you can watch it crash and burn on 2007 hardware 
it has a known bad PS/2 emulation btw
even DOS fails at using it
grand shadow
it has a known bad PS/2 emulation btw
crazy
fleet osprey
idk why they even bothered shipping it
it literally doesn't work
it sometimes just doesn't fire an interrupt for keypresses, so the buffer gradually becomes more and more full, and the OS gets less and less up-to-date presses
Dell was wild in 2007 apparently
grand shadow
@fleet osprey go crazy
if anything it will probably be slow like that but still work
fleet osprey
gotta wait for it to download over my crappy DSL first
grand shadow
might as well look into implementing that fifo stuff in the meantime
from what I read it was just like
get interrupt when empty
fill it up
repeat
fleet osprey
iirc mine just didn't care if it was full and sent data as fast as possible lol
though it has been eons since I touched that code so I could be entirely wrong
grand shadow
me when I send fifty billion bytes in a 50 baud line
grand shadow
oh yeah that also doesn't crash when I press power
yeah I fixed that in the new img
fleet osprey
yeah, was just confirming that it indeed does work
also serial doesn't work here
though that might be a skill issue?
idk if it's even enabled in the BIOS
I've done weird shit to this box
grand shadow
yeah then its probably just not having serial
grand shadow
actually I dont think the way I am doing the transmit is even the way I should be doing it in my own tty design hold on
beeen a while since I last did anything with the tty subsystem
yeah no the way I intended it was for it to just be a simply wait until empty transmit repeat
fleet osprey
serial works in Astral on here too 👍
grand shadow
no interrupt async bs
fleet osprey
still slow as hell, as expected
grand shadow
serial works in Astral on here too 👍
yippeee
I'm going to do a change and then I will send you another usb image to test
fleet osprey
alright
btw I also have tons of hardware to test it on if you ever want to do a PowerPC port, just saying
grand shadow
~~btw I also have tons of hardware to test it on if you ever want to do a PowerP...
bet
fleet osprey
👀
grand shadow
@fleet osprey is this faster
fleet osprey
<@632725314111275018> is this faster
downloading
fleet osprey
bet
btw my current collection:
- Apple
- PowerMac G5, 2x 2.0GHz PPC970FX, 4GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
- PowerBook G4 15", 1.67GHz PPC7447, 2GB RAM, Radeon Mobility 9700
- [dying RAM] iBook G4 12", 1.33GHz PPC7447, 512MB RAM, Radeon Mobility 9550
- [dead backlight] iBook G3 12", 600MHz PPC755, 640MB RAM, Rage Mobility 128
- Nintendo
- Wii U
- Wii (BootMii-as-boot2 compatible, unpatched DVD drive)
- 2x Wii (BootMii-as-boot2 patched, patched DVD drive)
- Sony
- [YLOD] PlayStation 3 CECH-2001A
- Microsoft
- [arriving in 4 days] Xbox 360 Slim (Corona motherboard)
grand shadow
damn that is a lot of computers
fleet osprey
I should try it on my T14 Gen 1 AMD again
grand shadow
do neofetch to see if its stable
fleet osprey
I remember that failed some time in the past iirc
fleet osprey
do neofetch to see if its stable
fleet osprey
np
grand shadow
just gotta find someone with a vt100 now 
fleet osprey
woah holy shit
PS/2 keyboard kinda works on my laptop
it's insanely slow
but it somehow works?
..... kinda, it's weird
it has the same problem that I described w/ my Optiplex lmao
it sometimes just doesn't fire an interrupt for keypresses, so the buffer gradually becomes more and more full, and the OS gets less and less up-to-date presses
at least, the same visible effect
no clue if that's the real cause or not
oh actually no
me when I fuckin lie
it's just slow as balls
I was confused by the timing
I press a key and it happens like 10s later
grand shadow
wtf
fleet osprey
also only 1 key gets processed every ~10s
so if I keysmash it doesn't wait 10s then keysmash at the same rate
it waits 10s then detects the first key, then 10s later the next, etc...
Average Consumer Hardware™ 👍
uploading a vid now
btw it seems to be running really hot, possibly related (something hogging all the CPU time?)
grand shadow
I'm starting to think the only two machiens with actually working ps2 are my desktop and laptop
since on both the mouse and keyboard work just fine
fleet osprey
lol
this is normal hardware too
just a basic ThinkPad
specifically it's a T14 Gen 1 AMD
Ryzen 4750U
16GB DDR4
basic PS/2 keyboard, Synaptics touchpad
lol yeah I'm 90% sure something in Astral was spinning on at least 1 CPU core
I lost like 7% battery doing this
(that's extremely abnormally high for this machine)
grand shadow
lol yeah I'm 90% sure something in Astral was spinning on at least 1 CPU core
I mean in the image I passed nosmp which just tells the cores to
asm("cli");
for (;;) CPU_HALT();
so that cant be it right
fleet osprey
weird
maybe something was pegging the 1 core that it was using
no clue
I just know that the CPU was running abnormally hot (as if it was doing a ton of work), and that it drained a ton of battery
grand shadow
its the ps/2 microcontroller
fleet osprey
lmao
new trendy hardware issue caused by software
"Linux Mint erased my EC" gets out of here
"Astral burned up my PS/2 microcontroller" is the new issue of the day
grand shadow
I once had the idea of having something like an ssh that could spin up an astral vm and drop you into a shell and with this its probably possible now
fleet osprey
ooh, neat
so kinda like what Managarm is doing on Pis?
#1091278035686268928 message
opal lotus
I'm starting to think the only two machiens with actually working ps2 are my des...
my framework laptop has ps2 emulation for the keyboard and trackpad
wild marsh
so kinda like what Managarm is doing on Pis?
https://discord.com/channels/440442...
well this is setting up dhcp netboot with tftp and powering on a real pi + sending uart data over the network
supple hatch
very epic shit mathew
analog berry
@grand shadow btw do u still want astral off the uACPI board
grand shadow
<@215823874615541761> btw do u still want astral off the uACPI board
Eh you can keep it there
analog berry
letsgo
grand shadow
Didnt do anything this weekend cuz was spending time with bf, will start doing ule soon™
grand shadow
I've gotten the interactivity calculation done I think, gonna start on the queues tomorrow
supple hatch
epic
grand shadow
I've gotten it to boot to xorg with the new scheduler queues and stuff but there is still something wrong since it is super slow
feral depot
very fast, so fast