#cannot progress with the wraths expansion

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daring terrace
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SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS

so i cannot continue with the expansion. out of the 4 new star systems, ive gone to every location in the khait dominion and the rhak homeworlds, and even completed the challenges that unlock the ability to fast forward during travel and the engine colors, jade and sanguine

i cannot acess any other star systems (from the new ones i mean) i do not have any new missions on my missions tab
my only current golden/yellow mission is the one titled “a different ending” but all it says is “check back on homebase”
however when i go to my homebase i cant do anything new. theres no dialogue when i get near tareens ship, theres no dialogue when i dock into the homebase, ive tried accessing it multiple times from both the spatial bypass and the normal traveling, and nothing
i cant even track or untrack the mission, nor can i click the “show on map” button as theres no prompts for anything.

ive completed the following missions that have the wraths logo:

across the divide
the old man and the universe
relic hunt
ukkram
far & beyond
in imroth’s name
the countdown
outlaw zero

i cant do anything to progress anything with the dlc. either im bugged or the next mission is a top tier ninja and is doing the best job in the universe hiding from me

im on ps5 so i cant upload my save but i can give some details

  1. i used my main save where i already had completed the main story and the incursions/rips & rifts in space missions, i was already level 30

  2. the first time i entered the homebase was via spatial bypass so maybe thats where the bug originated? i really hope i dont have to load an earlier save because id lose on hours of work, loot, and time spent banging my head against the wall with the puzzles. id lose on 30 hours of playtime

if yall need more info let me know

verbal crest
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Thanks for the detailed report, I'll send this along to the team to take a look into.

verbal crest
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The team have asked if you can provide the following;

  • A screenshot of the Missions screen with "A Different Ending" selected
  • A screenshot of the Map screen showing Ceto
  • An ingame screenshot in front of homebase with Homebase and Tareen in view
verbal crest
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Can you also check that you're currently on the latest version - 1.4.47960?

Also, do you have any older game saves, from before the "A different Ending" mission has triggered? If so, do things progress correctly?

fathom iron
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Yes i already docked at tareen bought everything and the docking dissapeared.

verbal crest
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Thanks Cargo.

Do you have any older games from prior to "A Different Ending"?

fathom iron
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No.. and i already been like 20-40 times to homebase so i doubt there is an autosave.

verbal crest
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We just need to check the whole mission screen, so if either of you has a picture of the complete screen.
Also, an image with the "A Different Ending", "Check on homebase", is there anything written below that?

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From our understanding, there was a small window from when the files became available on PS5, to when the subsequent update for that console went live later that a file mismatch happened causing the bug.

We're slowly unravelling it and hope, with your help we can pinpoint the issue and work from there.

fathom iron
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To the right of "check back on homebase" it says:

13,000
Experience

Nothing else is written below "check back on homebase."
Or anything else in the mission screen for that matter,

fathom iron
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Ii seriously doubt that the "a different ending" wouldnt start because inconcistencies in the missions screen and more likely that event wasnt started when you loaded up the game, after the update, at homebase while internally it was flagged/ticked as completed.

Go to homebase > then start event
Being at homebase > event = completed
Loading up at homebase > event was not triggered > but mission was ticked in coding.

I cant see any other way why the mission would not start after going out of the homebase (on first load after the update) and then returning later.

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If it was a mismatch in files then literally every ps5 would suffer from this bug.

verbal crest
# fathom iron If it was a mismatch in files then literally every ps5 would suffer from this bu...

I'll forward on the information.

Because of the timing between the early build being available (which we think you had access to as you posted about 18:30 that you were downloading & updating), and the subsequent update that came later, that window of you playing on an older build may have caused the issued with the mission chain.
Players who later just updated and then got the second update consecutively with no gap, won't have seen the issue.

daring terrace
daring terrace
fathom iron
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But i have the version you asked for earlier.. and how does the test version get into the ps store?

And if darling updated after the designated release time then the theory doesnt stick,right?

daring terrace
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@verbal crest this is the “a different ending” screen

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@verbal crest this is the ceto map screen

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let me know if you need it more zoomed into the homebase

verbal crest
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This is what we are trying to ascertain.
@daring terrace - did you remember downloading early or did you update post release time?

daring terrace
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there wasnt any downloading early or pre ordering bcuz the expansion was only available on psStore when it hit 1pm

verbal crest
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Thanks, just to confirm your timezone (EST)? @daring terrace

daring terrace
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mhm i believe so

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video of me entering homebase @verbal crest

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tareen just flies around

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shooting at him does nothing

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docking does nothing

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mission description stays the exact same

verbal crest
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Thanks appreciate it. Relaying the details to the team to look into.

daring terrace
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thank you

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pretty bummed that im locked out currently

fathom iron
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Ah the tareen dock also dissappsared after the first dock?

daring terrace
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ur supposed to dock on tareen?

gloomy tiger
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@verbal crest hey Garry ive bumped into a little issue too with the game on ps5 also, with the side mission for pango called Parasite III i cant progress it, i killed all the targets but it wont register as seen in the pic here, its no biggie i can just go back an earlier save and just go about my business, i have not progressed through the main dlc mission at all aside from a couple steps and have only done three of the other minor side missions.

also i saw you mentioning about downloading early, i stayed up to download the dlc as soon as it was possible, but after i did that i went to sleep(because it was early morning in australia) and put the ps5 on rest, when i woke up for work i went to check on the ps5 and when i turned it back on the download said it could not install, so i just started the download again, i assume because there was a new version of the download that went live or a hotfix or something?

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daring terrace
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i cant do that

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oh wowzers

verbal crest
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@gloomy tiger There were sequential updates so one should have followed the other. We're just unravelling the mystery.

fathom iron
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@daring terrace now my question is: when downloaded the dlc and installed it and booted up the game., where were you? Homebase?

daring terrace
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so i dont think i was already in homebase?

gloomy tiger
fathom iron
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Hmm i was sitting in homebase.. got out and got prompted to go and get the diplomacy thingy at the Okkar so i spatialled out to get towards the blackhole

fathom iron
gloomy tiger
daring terrace
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damn i just read up and im now worried that another issue might arise

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@verbal crest i dont know if this is possible but i hope not, but

apparently i was supposed to dock with kareen? thats what the “check on homebase” description was meant to drive me towards

but i NEVER docked with kareen, yet i completed some of the missions for the wraths, even tho they were blue so probably not the main ones. but ive also entered 2/4 of the new worlds and nearly completed them. would making progress in these aspects of the expansion break the main story if the game detects that i progressed without ticking off the main mission boxes or anything like that? cuz if so then even if you guys fix the current issue, another might show up and keep people like me locked out of the expansion

fathom iron
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Nah tareen gave no mission objective.. maybe i wasnt suppose to dock there.. but it gave a big green marker.. i think it had 3 items, nothing special tho..

fathom iron
agile karma
daring terrace
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if we are supposed to dock w him, i am even more royally screwed

verbal crest
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Thanks for the continued reports on this. The team are still digging into this issue and looking for other reports on this too to gain a clearer picture from the information provided.
As soon as I hear anything I shall let you know.

fathom iron
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Utterly hopeless!
Regardless what the specific problem is,you cant implent a mechanic that resets the mission flag in case it doesnt ticks off the mission when entering homebase the first time after the dlc update?
After hyping up the dlc for months and hearing everybody already being in Aethon.. we have to wait on more reports,that will say the exactly the same.. frankly it's ridiculous. Something like this should be hotfixed within 2 days.. we did nothing wrong, this is not our fault and we're told to just wait without a timeframe nor indication.
I guess ps5 players are just 2nd class citizens in the ES2 universe.

gloomy tiger
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wow bro chill, lol, im sure no one is more frustrated than the devs on these issues as is almost always the case for content updates and dlcs, there were some issues from the titans update too but they were all fixed in due time at least for me. small dev team too so these things can take a bit of time. i dont think its much help to them taking out your frustrations on them

daring terrace
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hopefully yall at least have somewhat of an idea what mightve caused this

daring terrace
# fathom iron Utterly hopeless! Regardless what the specific problem is,you cant implent a mec...

i feel you. this does really sour the experience. but dont take it too hard on the devs, its not like they broke the game on purpose and are lying around with a finger up their ass. theyre trying to fix the issue so we can access the content, and like someone already said theyre not a huge team so its not that simple. with that being said its very disappointing as a paying customer to receive a broken product, so i hope that at least the devs can fix this issue soon

fathom iron
# daring terrace i feel you. this does really sour the experience. but dont take it too hard on t...

Unless you were there and experienced the "the game does not save progress" bug, which was a ps5 specific and took them like a month+ to fix then you have no clue what experience is with ps5 specific bugs and how that impacts the passion of a player..
And you are not awarded for your patience and your support despite having bought a product that does not do what you paid for.

If they have to wait on more reports to figure out a solution (and let's be honest they have 3 now with all different conditions, so how much scenarios do you need before you can tackle the problem?).
And let's be clear.. not every ps5 player is aware of the discord etc and are aimlessly flying around wondering why the hell the story doesnt progress.
Rfg build the game, so when there is a problem with progression they should be able to work out a solution that bypasses what caused it without knowing what exactly caused it and shouldnt need a dozen reports.
If you have a flat tire you can fix it without knowing what actually made a hole in it.

daring terrace
# fathom iron Unless you were there and experienced the "the game does not save progress" bug,...

you’re right, i only started playing this game a few months ago, so i wasnt here for its base first release on ps5 or its titans dlc release. by the time i jumped in, i had no issues, so that definitely has an impact on my opinion and perspective. in regards to the bug issue, i both agree and disagree with what you have said.

i agree that its very disappointing and unacceptable that the dlc has a bug of such massive size and effect on the experience. its not a silly graphics bug making your ship pink, or an audio bug making characters sound like they’re underwater. the issue is a hardlock /softlock that completely denies you of the majority of the expansion which we paid for. very disappointing and very unacceptable.

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but i don’t agree with the statement that they should be able to immediately know how to fix the issue even if they dont know what is causing it, and the comparison to fixing a flat tire doesnt stand very well in this situation if you put the logic of these issues side by side

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fixing code is already a tedious task since even the slightest invisible mistake could be the entire reason behind the bug.

even if you dont know what punctured the tire, you can easily fix it by putting a spare, calling someone for help, or taking out the object and patching the hole with something until you can reach a tire shop

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fixing code isnt as simple tho

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but this is just facts speaking

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im a little biased bcuz i kinda like these devs i think they’re wholesome so i dont rly want to shit on them

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that doesnt change the fact that im very bummed out and upset by this tho

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im with you roughly 80% @fathom iron

fathom iron
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I have well over 800 hours in the game and from those 800 hiurs 200 hours were lost because i kept on playing during the save bug hoping they were fix the bug in a reasonable timeframe.. so the keep the momentum high and the passion flowing i played every day.. by the time they fix it, the wind was already out of the sails.. fire was dimmed.
Then they came with the Titans dlc.. which was okay for a minute but not enough to make me go all in like before.
Now they came with this dlc.. i scheduled my time to totally go ham in the dlc.. waiting for months to get new content, something that expands and rekindle the fire.
I was the first (at least in discord) to download the dlc because i was smashing the product page.

What do i get for my devotion? A bug without a timeframe on when it will be fixed.

But hey give steam a special skin
Give PC an artbook and soundtracks
Give xbox an early base update
And give PS bugs that take forever to fix.

daring terrace
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oh jesus christ

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i haven’t even made it to 200hrs yet

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i think your stance is mostly fair

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you’ve sunk a lot of time and effort into the game and upon the release of its final big addition you get the short end of the stick

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the issue is also ps5 exclusive which stings even more knowing we’re the only ones left out

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and as paying customers we deserve a working product

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i mean we’re legally entitled to it

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i think ur stance is pretty fair considering all the factors

fathom iron
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You can go back to 3 hours after the launchtime in the es2 section where i state "i dont know what the mission so i am flying around sightseeing the locations" (paraphrasing).. garry gave a reaction to it.
It's their game.. if afted 3 hours i havent been able to start the first mission they should have noticed there is something wrong.. i dont kniw what triggers the first mission.. i just thought i had to discover a certain location or do a certain sidemission..
After 6 hours in playing, discovering all posible new locations and doing all the side missions i could find.. it was clear.. i was not the problem, the game was.

If they just would have said when i pointed out when i didnt understand the mission objective after 3 hours that all you needed to do was go to homebase and it should start/finish the first mission .. 🤷‍♂️

daring terrace
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when u say 3 hours after the launchtime

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are u talking about the base game or the wraths expansion

fathom iron
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Wrath..

I played for 3 hours., woke up in the middle of the night to play another 3 trying to get by the first mission.. after that i said F it..

daring terrace
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😭

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honestly i get it

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when i realized i was bugged i originally was just going around doing high risk areas and incursions but the thought of being locked out of the expansion bummed me out so much i decided to stop playing

fathom iron
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Yes in the morning i was ranting in the forum then somebody pointed out your reply in the RFG chat..
Which is also a point of contention., why not announce to all the ps5 players that there might be a bug that doesnt let you start the first mission.. instead of waiting for players to realize there is something possibly wrong.. 🤷‍♂️

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If there is a bug and you need more reports to fix it then announce it.. make a yt vid on it.. anything to create more awareness and ask for data.

Show some signs that you want this fixed a.s.a.p

daring terrace
daring terrace
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they could make a discord announcement saying theres a ps5 softlock bug sure i can agree w you on that but you kinda write it in a way that makes it seem like RFG arent doing much on the bug which is pretty unfair

fathom iron
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Saying you need more reports while you already have 3 people from different angles does not testify they are actively working on it.. waiting is a passive action.. and like i said, last time it took weeks to fix a bug so "waiting on more reports" show absolutely no confidence on a fix in the very near future.

Before the dlc they had "review versions" rolled out and since nobody encountered this bug tells me they do very to little tersting for the PS.

How many ps players are there in the discord? Not very much right?
So if 3 people already encountered this bug than it's a pretty common bug.. so if they had a bunch of ps players beta testing and reviewing the game before hand it would have been tackled before release.. if they did and it didnt show up then the bug appeared from the coding implented between the last pre-version and final version.
Which should narrow the problem down to a very small pocket of coding.

Either way, you shouldnt have to much trouble identifying the problem.
They are a "small studio" yes but this is not their first game.. they are not amateurs.. they are not inexperienced.

Finally.. it's the very first mission that is bugged.. a mission that needs nothing except going to homebase.. there is not a technical heavy mechanic in place.. it's the most basic task in the game..a task we did a million times. Let's not pretend this is some complicated bug.. they build the framework of this game, they should know what's wrong when the most basic task doesnt yield the result that it is supposed to.

verbal crest
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Lots to unpack here, but I'd appreciate everyone staying calm on the matter.

There's a lot of assumptions and unknowns posted, but I'll try to dig into what where we are currently at.

In terms of reports of this issue we've had very few, apart from yourselves in this thread. That's not to say it's only the players we know of, but until we get further information our dataset is limited on exactly what happened. We've had another report from outside the Discord also as we have many points of contact with players.

Now I'm not on the technical team or one of the programmers, so my knowledge of the coding is next to zero, but as with all the issues that arise they are looking into the problem along with other issues.

Can I give you an ETA on the fix? No, as until I'm told we've been able to replicate & fix the issue that's an impossibility, but just to stress this, it doesn't mean we're passive and not looking into the issue. Yes, having more data from others with the issue would help as it increases the information pool to work with and can help narrow down the cause and improve the chances of a fix being put in place.

Did the Review versions have the this issue? No, we had no reports on this, but comparing a much smaller pool of media with a preset game save & loadout, against thousands of players with different saves and loadouts means there's always chance of a bug becoming prominent. It's impossible for any studio, even ranging from our size up to Activision size to test & catch every possible bug as no software ever releases in a perfect state.

Is it frustrating for us as Devs, absolutely. We have no desire whatsoever to curtail the enjoyment of any player, on any platform from enjoying the fruits of our labour as we're very proud of our game.

Game development is not easy, it's inherently complex and even the most experienced teams will have issues along the way in a development or release phase.

I get the frustration, we're all gamers, but we're working on fixing this, along with all the other issues as quick as we can but there's never a magic wand to fix everything in one quick swish.

daring terrace
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  1. just asking me for info about the issue when i first posted the report is enough to show that they are gonna look into it lol

  2. review versions and release versions are different and its probably the case that the issue only exists in the release version, so they’d have ZERO way of knowing there was a bug. that also doesnt mean they did little testing

  3. even the most experienced devs make mistakes of all sizes…being experienced doesnt mean you will never screw up ever again. these people are humans

  4. homebase might be a small map in terms of size but its arguably the most important location in the game. it keeps track of your cargo across different ships and your storage space for the homebase itself, it also have some missions take place in it, has a spatial bypass, and a rift spawner

its got a good amount of layers. also, it could be a complicated bug. just bcuz its on the homebase doesnt make it a simple bug, although it could be one.
im studying computer programming and when my programs dont work properly its often times just 1 line of code being broken, and sometimes even less. sometimes its a single character, like placing a : instead of a ;
it takes time and many retries to fix things like that

your frustration is very valid but i dont think the way you’re expressing it is valid, nor is it correct in terms of what your statements are most of the time

daring terrace
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i can list more of the missions ive completed in the order they appear in my missions tab, list with details what weapons and modules i have equipped, etc

untold thorn
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Hey Pilots,

we completely understand the frustration and are working on a fix.

In the meantime, here’s a quick summary of what actually happened—just to clear up a few things:

We were aware of the issue before the official launch and had already fixed it.
The problem is that a small number of players had access to an older version of the game that still contained the issue.
As a result, all players who started at the actual launch time on that day are unaffected, and only a small number of players who began playing earlier in the day are affected.

We wanted to gather additional reports to make sure we were dealing with the issue we had already identified, and not something new.

Although fixing the core problem was already a bit tricky—due to a nasty race condition that only exists on the PS5—the much harder part is now fixing the issue retroactively for the affected players. We're still working on a final solution that can reliably cover every edge case.

We’re fairly confident that we’ll be able to provide a fix by Monday.

Thanks for your patience.
Best regards,
Jan

untold thorn
daring terrace
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the issue existed in an older version that some people had access to if they played before release time, whereas the people who played on release time are unaffected by the issue?

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how come i and some other ps5 players have the issue if it existed on an earlier version and as ps5 players we couldnt even pre order the expansion as it wasnt showing up on the psStore

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how did the bug even get through? unless im missing something but im a little lost

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shouldnt the fixed version be the only one available to ps5 users and the others for pc?

daring terrace
daring terrace
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@verbal crest @untold thorn not sure which of you to tag but now with the update theres something new happening?

so i re-read the patch notes and noticed something i originally didnt see which was smth along the lines of “fixed rare cases where A Different Ending mission didnt start properly if played on an accidental early save” and it had the WOTA and PS5 tags, something like that, so i got my hopes up thinking the bug was fixed

i boot up the game and when i load in, the mission appears but its got the same UI as it did before. im making my way to homebase and each time i enter a new area the mission appears as if it was a brand new mission that was just made available, but it does it constantly every time i load into an area.
bug still there. cannot progress with the dlc at all

thought y’all should know in case it helps idk

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it specifically says “new mission” everytime i load into anything too so i dont know if its a reminder that the mission exists or if the game is treating it like the mission reactivates everytime an area is loaded or something else entirely

quartz fractal
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@verbal crest I get this too. Every time I warp, a message appears about this new mission (A Different Ending). Dock at base. Nothing. Just patched, tried to reinstall too. PS5 Pro. I downloaded and reinstalled Everspace 2 the day before the DLC dropped.

karmic bear
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@verbal crest me too,same issue

verbal crest
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Thanks for the information - I'll get the details across to the team so they are up to date with reports. Appreciate it. 👍🏻

verbal crest
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Just to confirm everyone is on the latest update 1.4.48035?

Also, I know Oenonee is on a PS5 Pro, is anyone else?

What are your language/country settings btw?

daring terrace
daring terrace
quartz fractal
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Confirming 1.4.48035. Language is English.

karmic bear
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On ps5 base model,v1.4.48035,language English

verbal crest
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Thanks folks for the confirmation. Much appreciated.

remote sparrow
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This is what it looks like for me. Since I was first invited into Okkar territory. Khait Dominion and Rhak Homeworlds is 100% completed including sidequest. Version 1.4.48035 ps5 base model, english

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verbal crest
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Thanks @remote sparrow - appreciate the information.

daring terrace
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@verbal crest any progress with a fix? jan said the team was confident they’d be able to provide a fix by monday (yesterday) and nothing yet so im wondering if things got worse and the fix is being pushed back or something?

verbal crest
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My understanding is that we pushed fixes out with the patch on Friday, but that didn't correct all the issues, even though we hoped it would.
I'll check in with the team tomorrow to find out where we are at with the issue as I believe we can't replicate it on our end currently, which is highly frustrating.

The joys of a closed eco system on consoles. Good protection but difficult to diagnose issues unfortunately as we can't grab your game saves. 🙄

daring terrace
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damn what a kick in the nuts that is for everyone😬but wow still the issue cant be replicated? is there any more info that could help the team?

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since its been well over a week i was hoping there was at least some progress made🥲

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everyone enjoying the expansion while us ps5 players are like

verbal crest
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I'll speak to the team today and hopefully we'll have had some progress on the matter.

final yarrow
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Having the same issue on ps5 and purchased the DLC a few days ago still cant play keep in mind this was after the updates that I purchased

verbal crest
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Please see the Announcement - #announcements message

We're pushing out a patch that will (hopefully) fix the issue some of our PlayStation pilots have been seeing that meant they were unable to do some of the WotA content.

quartz fractal
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Downloading now!

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Yes!

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Icon appeared. Cutscene playing now.

daring terrace
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WAIT WHAT IM DOWNLOADING RN

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IMMA SEE IF IT WORKS oh my god i’ll faint if it does

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ive been dying to enter the dlc

quartz fractal
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Loving the story so far, thanks for the patch!