sporty, luxurious family car

[gritty sundial]

My dad is going to buy a new car soon. The budget is like 50-70k.

Now, his no1 option is a tesla model s 4x4, do you guys have any other suggestions of cars instead of this?

[pearl flower]

why do you care what car your dad gets?

[rich olive]

Like did he ask you what you would recommend?

Or u just trying to convince him to not buy a shitty tesla

[carmine perch]

Would u not care if your father drives something that’s not safe and reliable?

[fervent niche]

you lost me when you said tesla

[royal talon]

For a family car, if SUV ide go a Yukon/Tahoe, really good and reliable vehicles.
For Sedans, ide go almost anything that isn't German made or a tesla. But if I had to say, ide would go with any sporty Sedan like the Civic type R or something along those lines

[gritty sundial]

What s the problem of the germans cars?

Wouldn t be a E class a good choice?

[carmine perch]

Anything but Tesla

[royal talon]

Idk if it's just my area, but whenever I talk to someone about their German car they are ussualy having a transmission or head/valve issue with it. Not saying they can't be reliable. But it could be just my area

Again, I wouldn't know. I've really only owned old ass American V8s. A good 69 bonneville would be an Amazing choice tho. Restore one of those and you will turn every head in the city

It's a 2 door but seats 5

Amazing cruise vehicle. Drives like a boat on water

If my dad ever said he wanted a tesla, ide respectfully stop talking to him. That's js me tho 😭😭 I love my dad but I'm not letting him drive a tesla 🙏

[gritty sundial]

But

Why is everyone hating on teslas

[royal talon]

1: they are shit vehicles
2: they cause more harm to the environment to be manufactured
3: they are charged by diesel generators so it's pointless drive a gas vehicle
4: they are really easy to hack/steal
5: the joke of the tesla cyber truck has had its 4th total recall a few months ago

So what could happen with a regular tesla? A problem could arise that hasn't been caught yet

Ide suggest you look into lithium mining and show your dad if he is thinking on buying a tesla for "environmental purposes"

[gritty sundial]

Nah

It s not for environmental purposes, he know about the high polution that is made during the manufacturing of those batteries, tesla models s just looks like a moderated price fast family car

[gritty sundial]

so, in the end, tesla isn t a fast family car with alot of features, quite luxurious, for a good price?

[gray hill]

Dont get a tesla ffs, get this instead

or something like an xc90

[royal talon]

Sure, it's fast. But there is faster

If he is looking for a fast family car, there is the hellcat red eye which sure. It might not have a best 0-60, but it has a better top speed. 204 mph to be exact

Or, a camaro ZL1 for 64k which is made to be a trace car

[gritty sundial]

Thanks for the recomandation, do you have any others more in the luxurious part?

[storm ruin]

Mercedes or BMW. Are you looking for a car that’s suitable for like long distance trips?

[rich olive]

“Germans aren’t reliable” “go for Civic type R” lol what a joke

[storm ruin]

Germans?

Bro yes they are lmao (most of them, I think)

You’re telling me Mercedes, BMW, and Volkswagen is not reliable

[rich olive]

that is what he is saying

Idk I think if you want a “sporty, luxurious car” like what the title says, you want to buy mercedes

Or BMW suv

[storm ruin]

Mercedes & BMW are like twin cars (not literally)

BMW owns Rolls Royce

[rich olive]

Eh they are quite different

[valid fiber]

tbf a tesla will be faster than most other family cars

but they have very questionable build quality, which I say would be the main reason to not buy

[gritty sundial]

he just sold he s 2019 e class and he said he does not want to get another E, he was looking into tesla model S like i said before, but also a GLA Amg, ik that it s not the best family car because it s quite small, what do you guys say about it

[magic wren]

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[gray hill]

Bme isnt

[rich olive]

But they are not sporty or luxurious

[rich olive]

New BMWs are

[rich olive]

Which E class?

Also 50-70k USD? And what mileage we taking here?

He wants an SUV or is a sedan ok?

[valid fiber]

Sporty is a matter of opinion but I agree with the luxury thing.

A new-ish BMW is not a bad idea

[blissful swan]

4x4 f150 with a whipple

[storm ruin]

M is a sports

[carmine perch]

Teslas are also all plastic and they creak anytime you try and touch stuff you can just look it up. Plus the battery needs to be replaced every 3 years ish and if your anywhere cold it kills the battery way faster in winter

[storm ruin]

Teslas are pretty nice. No Cybertruck

[carmine perch]

[rich olive]

Yeah its kinda a matter of opinion but there are objective variables. Its just not sporty…

[rich olive]

Its a good investment, but key term, investment. Its not that good of a car right now, especially if u don’t live near main tesla infrastructure

[gritty sundial]

50-70 euros, and yes a sedan is ok

[grave root]

I second this. A S60 or S90 would be an excellent choice. Phenomenal looking vehicles

[rich olive]

Neither are sporty or fast

[grave root]

Sporty is subjective but how is the T8 model at 455hp and 523lb-ft torque not fast?

[rich olive]

idk I am not seeing anything about 455hp

ah I see

Well the front looks OK

The back looks like shit, its a plug-in hybrid, and it sounds like shit

and it weighs like a fkin truck

Idk dude don't go to volvo for anything luxurious or sporty

[gray hill]

Okay, buy a bentley continental instead.

[rich olive]

Idk what to tell u, that Volvo is like a hellcat, except it looks horrible, interior is horrible, its not as fast

lots of cons

[gray hill]

I guess thats just taste

[grave root]

I guess so,

Honestly OP, any of the new Acura line, I believe, you can’t go wrong with.

4 cylinder puts out 272hp and the V6 is 455hp, both with AWD options and 10-speed as a standard

[gray hill]

Wha- 10?!!?

[storm ruin]

Fresh

[gray hill]

why 😭

[gritty sundial]

Any opinions on the giulia quadrifoglio?

[grave root]

Dope car, very unreliable

[rich olive]

Shit

Alfa romeo is literally just a gamble

[gritty sundial]

Yo

Any ideas for a loud one? (Around 65k family car)

[hard shard]

Ok I know this is outdated and late and old opinion but a late gen 300S or C, AWD ones, full sized sedan with sporty nature and handling, gets up and goes really fast for a V6, and even faster with the Hemi, but the V6 you can get cheaper and throw a turbo or supercharger and smoke the Hemi's like none

[rich olive]

For 65k u can get a good C63

[grave root]

Here, I’ll agree with you. C63 is a dope car

Had a friend of mine with a 2016, did down pipes, bigger intercoolers and intake, tune and pushed about 550HP. Was hilariously fun to drive.

[hard shard]

They're comfortable, inexpensive, and are pretty durable little shits for their price

[rich olive]

For a 60-70k budget, a 300S is kinda… just lame

[covert vortex]

2021 toyota camry

Or a 2020 crv

[lost badge]

if you can raise that to 70k you can get a macan

for now i can recomend a lexus NX

since its reliable and plush

you can get a fully loaded spec for 60k ish

its not the most amazing car but its really functional