Do you have fuel and spark?
#car wont start after head gasket replacement 2004 honda civic
summer garnet
Also did you check the surfaces to see if they were flat still
And did you get new head bolts
ionic lance
I have air fuel, and a spark. Got new head bolts. I didn't check if the surface was flat
ionic lance
@summer garnet
summer garnet
I have air fuel, and a spark. Got new head bolts. I didn't check if the surface ...
Did you do a compression test with the new head gasket?
ionic lance
Did you do a compression test with the new head gasket?
No
ionic lance
Also how did you determine the head gasket was bad
I think compression was getting into the coolant
The car was still overheating randomly I replaced everything in the coolant system
I used a head gasket leak detector, it turned a little yellow I think there was compression
vagrant hare
Your cars outta time
Just gonna leave it right here
@ionic lance
When you do a head gasket it's pretty common for your car to be outta time rather it be distributor or head timing
ionic lance
Your cars outta time
My car has no codes, would it still be timing?
vagrant hare
Mhm
Theres no sensor to say you're outta time
Its cranking but no start?
Look up videos on how to correct distributor timing on a 04 civic
ionic lance
Look up videos on how to correct distributor timing on a 04 civic
There's no distributor, I can recheck the timing tho
vagrant hare
Are they cop?
ionic lance
Are they cop?
What is cop?
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vagrant hare
Coil on plug
ionic lance
Coil on plug
Yes coil on plug
ionic lance
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hardy cypress
Did you do a valve adjustment? And I believe this model has a timing belt. Are you sure timing is dead on?
ionic lance
Did you do a valve adjustment? And I believe this model has a timing belt. Are y...
Timing marks were correct when I ran it. The weird thing was when I had the head off and I spun the cam gear, it rotated a couple of times. Then it got stuck randomly. I had to move it backward a little bit. Maybe that could have thrown off the timing. Or am I overthinking?
ionic lance
So you're getting spark fuel all that?
I could smell fuel, I saw a spark. And I feel the air going in. But I had a little starter fluid and it ran for .1 of a second.
I disconnected the fuel rail is there a possibility it needs to be pressurized again? I disconnected the fuel rail just to see if there was fuel again, and the fuel came out.
vagrant hare
Sounds like it's not getting fuel
Its what my civic did
Would start off brake clean for .5 sec then stop
It just wasnt getting fuel
hardy cypress
At least in the SOHC found in the 2000 models, you would put the cam shaft gear with the word UP facing directly up, with the two timing marks on that gear level with the top of the head. This is to be done when cylinder ONE is TDC on the compression stroke.
Then the crank would need to be on timing with its timing marks and boom the belt can go on. Obviously this is a lot easier if you mark everything prior but I’m just saying you could be slightly out of timing of this process was not done correctly. Which I hope isn’t the case because I believe this is an interference motor.
Ultimately the head should of been sent to a machine-shop prior to reinstalling to verify if it was true or not. Then they can make it true. Before you m move forward, I would do a compression test with the new head gasket or your just running in circles
ionic lance
Ultimately the head should of been sent to a machine-shop prior to reinstalling...
Can you do a compression test without car starting?
hardy cypress
Of course. All you need is the motor to turn over a couple of times with each cylinder
ionic lance
Of course. All you need is the motor to turn over a couple of times with each cy...
Car starts with a new spark plug, but starts at 2k idle and jumps RPMs like crazy
ionic lance
There is coolant and oil mixing
hardy cypress
There is coolant and oil mixing
The head-gasket replacement did not work
You need to take it back apart and take the head to a machine shop
jagged abyss
@ionic lance something defo went wrong in the replacement or before/after if ur car wont start
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ionic lance
<@532364070154928139> something defo went wrong in the replacement or before/aft...
Car started with new spark plugs, coolant, and oil are mixing now.
ionic lance
You need to take it back apart and take the head to a machine shop
Is it worth it to fix it?
summer garnet
Is it worth it to fix it?
New engine probably cheaper
ionic lance
New engine probably cheaper
Or do I buy a new car
hardy cypress
New engine probably cheaper
Not even. I’ve had a shop true my head up, clean it, shave it, paint it and install new valve seals for 150 bucks
ionic lance
Not even. I’ve had a shop true my head up, clean it, shave it, paint it and inst...
Not a bad deal, what about the block?
hardy cypress
I checked with a straight up to see if there was anything out of adjustment that was blatently obvious and their wasnt. Usually its going to be the head that warps because the head is just heald on with bolts. With that being said that is not alwasy the case but its a risk you may or may not want to take.
I mean you didnt blow the headgasket in the sense that the motor over heated right?
You just noticed the collant was mixing with the oil and vice versa?
ionic lance
You just noticed the collant was mixing with the oil and vice versa?
Well at first combustion was getting into the coolant, causing the car to overheat some times.
So I attempted to replace the head gasket.
When I did and tried to start, it started but I noticed oil and coolant mixing.
hardy cypress
Well at first combustion was getting into the coolant, causing the car to overhe...
Yeah with it over heating, there is more than likely damage to the head and or block
ionic lance
Yeah with it over heating, there is more than likely damage to the head and or b...
What's a good ruler to check head warpage
hardy cypress
I would use a good straight edge
Don’t need to buy a pricey one. If it’s obvious. You will know once you see light coming out from underneath it
ionic lance
Don’t need to buy a pricey one. If it’s obvious. You will know once you see ligh...
Okay, going to take the head to a real shop, the block should be good tho correct?
summer garnet
Okay, going to take the head to a real shop, the block should be good tho correc...
Just take it all to them
And ask what they charge
ionic lance
Just take it all to them
It’s gonna be hard to take a whole block to the shop
summer garnet
Don’t I have to disconnect the transmission
Yeah but that isn't hard
ionic lance
Yeah but that isn't hard
Should I just check for warpage?
hardy cypress
Is it iron block or aluminum
It’s a Honda so it’s aluminum
What I said Op was to check the block with the straight edge, don’t assume it’s going to be ok.
hardy cypress
I’ve had the block be fine but still took the head to a shop.
I’ve had the block be fine but still took the head to a shop.
ionic lance
I’ve had the block be fine but still took the head to a shop.
@hardy cypress @vagrant hare
hardy cypress
I wouldn’t keep running it