Give Berserker an actual Innate Ability and not only base stats difference | Battle Realms | Page 1

frail plover May 4, 2023, 1:42 PM

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I always thought it is weird why only Berserker don't have any Innate Ability while other Tier 3 units (Samurai has Seppuku, Ronin has Curse Blade, Warlock has... Soul Lick?) has one.
So i tried to give him a new Innate Ability and you can check on video for example or what am i talking about.

Berserker Innate Ability - "Berserker Rage"
When Berserker get hit by enemies melee, gain small speed and small attack buff and decrease small AM debuff for short time duration. Can be stacks 5 buff/debuff.

This mean Berserker get Speed+ATK boost but also Fragile his Armors.
Can be great against range units since their melee damage are already weak and can boost berserker's speed/damage easily and doesn't affect too much on AM debuff but beware of Blunt Melee units with strong cutting AM thanks to berserker's weak blunt AM.

I mean he is **"Berserker" **and i thought it would be cool if he has even higher damage and deadly but also Poor defense during combat. High-Risk High-Reward style.

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Give Berserker an Innate Ability?

stuck shard May 4, 2023, 4:01 PM

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those are his innate abilities, i do not remember them being removed

frail plover May 4, 2023, 4:08 PM

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Oh
I thought they remove berserker innate abilities (But I think i got confuse with staff adept)
~~Altho Both Jump strike and Back in Action are really unnoticeable~~

static imp May 5, 2023, 1:10 AM

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Maybe, Frenzy or Bloodlust?

frail plover May 5, 2023, 6:05 AM

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Dota/WoW ability on BR zen edition Kenj_Thonk

spiral tree May 5, 2023, 11:44 AM

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@frail plover they has....

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Back in action innate for berserk seem to be nerf version of blade acolyte

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Blade acolyte re stamina very fast

frail plover May 5, 2023, 12:28 PM

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I don't remember what blade acolyte innate does
But isn't his innate ability are random self damage buff?

spiral tree May 5, 2023, 12:31 PM

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@frail plover yes sharped the balde deal double damage for first hit

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And back in action make him re stamina very fast

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Good for running

frail plover May 5, 2023, 12:36 PM

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~~Just checked battle realms wiki io even tho they haven't update for years~~
Oh wow
So Blade Acolyte, who is tier 1 unit has a 3 innate abilities for some reason (I thought he only has damage boost one)

spiral tree May 5, 2023, 12:42 PM

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Why

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He has low hp for exchange

stuck shard May 5, 2023, 2:59 PM

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those are actually not innate abilities

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except the blade sharpening

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If you ever look more into it you will see the .dat file only has space for 1 innate ability actually. Everything else is just a normal "status" that is different then the norm.

For example all units regen at X. This unit does X.5 instead. Its not an ability just a flavoring in stats, theres no consideration for t1 or t3

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Or to put it simply, its like saying samurai having more hp is an innate ability steveo_smile

spiral tree May 5, 2023, 3:16 PM

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@stuck shard back in action is real innate

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Blade acolyte re stamina much faster than other unit

stuck shard May 5, 2023, 3:16 PM

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No you missunderstand

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i am speaking of actual abilities

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not stat differences

spiral tree May 5, 2023, 3:17 PM

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So his stats just higher not from skil?

stuck shard May 5, 2023, 3:17 PM

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yes

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its just regeneration of stamina is higher on this unit

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it just named "innate ability" but its just a base stat difference (bonus)

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the sharpen blade is the actual ability

spiral tree May 5, 2023, 3:18 PM

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Oo

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How about other unit@stuck shard

stuck shard May 5, 2023, 3:18 PM

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this is for all units

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jump height advantage for example from kabuki is not because of an ability buffing his next attack, it is because if kabuki jumps he is higher up with his model this is why the game physics give damage bonus

spiral tree May 5, 2023, 3:19 PM

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Kk

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So just give extra little damage in few sec

stuck shard May 5, 2023, 3:20 PM

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just for that single instance of damage

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while he is higher up

spiral tree May 5, 2023, 3:20 PM

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O.o

stuck shard May 5, 2023, 3:20 PM

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a kabuki jumping against shale lord has no height advantage

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because he is still lower (my guess)

spiral tree May 5, 2023, 3:21 PM

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That jump attack is nothing in the "war"

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Kazan_Lul

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Golem is highest so he always get max advantage ??

frail plover May 5, 2023, 3:22 PM

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stuck shard If you ever look more into it you will see the .dat file only has space for 1 in...

So those that mean berserker still don't have actual innate abilities but difference base stat?

spiral tree May 5, 2023, 3:22 PM

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@stuck shard

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@frail plover yes

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Rasberry is sleep i answer for you

frail plover May 5, 2023, 3:23 PM

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Not sure should i change the title
"Give Berserker an actual Innate Ability?" or not

stuck shard May 5, 2023, 3:24 PM

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frail plover So those that mean berserker still don't have actual innate abilities but differ...

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Indeed, his so called innate abilities are just differences in base stats (to the norm). He himself does not have an innate ability

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like most units dont

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Easy rule to figure out:
if unit does something unique, it is an innate ability.
example: chemist, powder canoneer, blade acolyte

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If unit has better xyz then other units = probably base stat difference somewhere (walkspeed, regen speed, attack speed, vision)

spiral tree May 5, 2023, 3:26 PM

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@stuck shard ok

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Yes my lord

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I follow the dragon

frail plover May 5, 2023, 3:27 PM

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Give Berserker an actual Innate Ability and not only base stats difference

frail plover May 5, 2023, 3:28 PM

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stuck shard

Thanks
I was confuse back then since Berserk doesn't have Innate Ability in according to Data editor
But the wiki said he has

spiral tree May 5, 2023, 3:29 PM

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@frail plover lol

#Give Berserker an actual Innate Ability and not only base stats difference