For cash game tables, it would be highly beneficial to condition access to each table’s buy‑in level based on the player’s current stack. At the moment, the value of chips changes drastically depending on how many a player holds, which creates a significant imbalance compared to a real casino where every bet represents a tangible cost.
Implementing a stack‑based access limit — for example, preventing players with an excessively large stack from joining low buy‑in tables — would restore a coherent and balanced playing environment.
Currently, it is common for players with very large stacks to join low buy‑in tables and bet without restraint, because blinds, calls, and raises no longer hold any meaningful value for them. This behavior disrupts the balance of the game, discourages players seeking an experience appropriate to their level, and ultimately harms the overall quality of the cash game tables.
Such a measure would significantly improve fairness, natural player progression, and the overall satisfaction of the community.
#Poker Table. Acces and Bankroll
merry depot
neat bluff
For cash game tables, it would be highly beneficial to condition access to each ...
That would be big N O from me rubber ducky
There shouldn't be a rule saying because I have a certain amount in my BR I can't access lower tables.
merry depot
I completely understand and respect your point of view, Lukey. That said, it benefits you at the expense of others.
As for me, even if I had an enormous stack, my priority would still be the integrity of the game. I genuinely enjoy poker, and I always try to keep an objective perspective on potential improvements, even when those changes might go against my own interests.
neat bluff
I'm down for improvements as well but I don't see this as an improvement and nor do I want the game to even get behind this. There are already buy ins and that's perfect. Adding features like if you have money you can only play at certain stakes isn't fair for everyone. Some people have bigger bank rolls and aren't the best at poker so why put them in a higher buy ins that could hurt their bankroll instead let them buy in for cheap and try to get the hang of the game?
neat bluff
You changed your original post 😆
At low stakes you'll get all kinds of play from all kinds of BRs…..and from playing low end tables I can tell you more then often its the players with nothing in their account jamming every hand and when they run out they just sit there with no chips and take up a space that a player with chips could take Theres no limit. So players can act and play how they want. You want that to change? Gotta change the game first.
merry depot
Yes, indeed, I wanted it to be more explicit 🙂
Your point of view is interesting. 🙂
merry depot
At low stakes you'll get all kinds of play from all kinds of BRs…..and from play...
I haven't had the same experience as you regarding this post, but I understand it. In my part I mostly observed players going all-in preflop only to re-buy immediately afterwards, and so on, while many players had their entire stack on the table. I think many low blind players are playing with what the free spins every 7 hours have given them.
That said, there is still some truth in my original post.
merry depot
I'm down for improvements as well but I don't see this as an improvement and nor...
On second thought, a player with a very large stack who wants to learn poker could simply do so on a table with a buy‑in that actually matches their level. With a balanced system in place, it would amount to the same thing while preserving consistency and fairness in the games.
I’m not claiming that my idea is the solution; there are certainly other ways to ensure that tables group players whose chips share a consistent fictional value. Still, the question of improving this balance remains genuinely worth exploring
And if players want to play with a low buy-in with large stacks, they can do so in private games; it remains the best way to learn.
neat bluff
On second thought, a player with a very large stack who wants to learn poker cou...
The good thing about this game as it stands is the players have the choice to buy in and comfortably play where they choose by your original post you have taken that away from them and would make them play in higher buy in. From what I know in real life you can buy in for whatever you want in any casino This game tries to operate like a real life casino. The only issue like you said is there are players who play off of their wheel spins They buy in low and play bingo. Just play good poker and you have nothing to worry about. Don't like how the table is playing then go to another table or make your own but you'll never get away from the pre flop jams Dosent matter the bankroll size
merry depot
Certainly — but the key difference between real casinos and fictional ones is that the relationship between money and chips is fundamentally different.
In any case, the debate and your point of view were interesting, thank you.
neat bluff
Certainly — but the key difference between real casinos and fictional ones is th...
The game tries to give us real life experience. Doesn't mean the players will do the same. It's fake money at the end of the day Youll get very loose players on the lower end tables. Just don't give in and wait for the best chance to take their chips.
I appreciate the back and forth as well 🫡
noble reef
As someone with a large bankroll that plays almost exclusively at 25/50 respectfully. I hate this idea. Players with 80k can still go allin hand after hand. Its a behaviour that cant be stopped when its allowed in the rules. Its not the games place to limit access to a large amount of tables for players that invest time and do well in the game. This is poker and no matter what people are gonna do things you dont like, thats just part of the game (I also hate it when players go all in hand after hand)
merry depot
But the idea is precisely to prevent players from going all-in hand after hand. And its not poker, is a poker game mate. If you succeed, it may be precisely because you have a large stack which allows you to easily take the advantage at low bet tables. I'm just asking you to look at things objectively and not from a personal point of view, but I admit it's not easy.
I have never stated that I like or dislike this or that, I am proposing a solution to improve the experience for all players, unfortunately perhaps at the expense of some.
merry depot
The game tries to give us real life experience. Doesn't mean the players will ...
Thanks u 🙂 But I'm a professional player, it's my job. I don't have any personal problems with poker; I just want to help others 😉
noble reef
Its a 5k buy in no one can buy in for more than that. If you're saying being able to buy in more times after a loss is an advantage they should just get rid of cash tables altogether because that edge isnt going anywhere
And i know its a poker game mate
merry depot
Certainly, but for a player with a high stack it's not the same problem as for a player with 5000 in total.
what is 5k when u have 2millions ? lol
noble reef
This perfect table you're looking for just is never going to happen. People have different bankrolls, different tactics, different motivations. Its the spice that makes the game interesting. You cant control everything and VI definitely shouldn't try to
merry depot
In any case, no players concerned are participating in this debate, so it is rather pointless.
I think you don't understand my intention and are interpreting it according to your personal opinion.
noble reef
Or maybe thats what you're doing 😂
merry depot
maybe 🙂
serene lark
What is "natural player progression"?
merry depot
Or maybe thats what you're doing 😂
That said, I have no point of view to defend.
I'm just talking about facts
noble reef
Sounds a lot like opinion to me but I'll stop there. Have a nice day
serene lark
The fact is a player who shoves indiscriminately is easy to exploit.
There are plenty of players who are broke, spin, take their 5300 chips and are just fine shoving them and seeing what happens. Don't those players also take away from the idealized game you are referencing?
merry depot
What is "natural player progression"?
its natural player progression ^^ Increase your chip total by playing with players who have roughly the same amount.
serene lark
"an experience appropriate to their level" there are plenty of bad and good players at every level. And allowing people to buy a bankroll on a 4x sale, means nothing about their quality of play.
In the end an abc poker player should turn a pretty good profit player at low stakes, where most people call everything or shove indiscriminately because they want to turn poker into a slot machine.
merry depot
The fact is a player who shoves indiscriminately is easy to exploit.
There ar...
It depends, but a player who can't afford to buy back after hesitating is more likely to do so.
serene lark
That is not what I've seen. I rarely see that hesitation based on the hands that are played at lower stakes.
Also, I have plenty of chips and I don't play like that. Why should I be banned if I prefer to play at stakes that I've earned the right to play at?
merry depot
We've misunderstood each other; I suggest you reread the original post.
serene lark
I did read the post thank you. What have I misunderstood?
merry depot
You're saying exactly what I'm trying to explain.
serene lark
That I should be banned from low stakes because I have chips?
merry depot
First of all, I would like to know why you want to play 25-50 if you have a lot of chips?
merry depot
I understand, but put yourself in other people's shoes.
serene lark
Ok. And if they learned how to play poker better then there's no reason why they shouldn't be able to turn a good profit from players who are loose at those stakes.
merry depot
Because I've earned that right if I want to.
That's not a very convincing reason ^^
noble reef
Thats the only reason that matters
serene lark
Well it's the same reason that casino rooms and card rooms around the world use so I guess it is pretty convincing.
merry depot
With true money yes
serene lark
Should I be banned from buying chip packs because I have a job and earned the money to spend on them, because it isn't fair to people who don't have money to spend on them?
merry depot
Should I be banned from buying chip packs because I have a job and earned the mo...
lol I don't see what you're talking about or how it relates to the post
I think I'll stop there 🙂 I see that for some people, managing to see things objectively is rather difficult.
noble reef
I love how your opinion is objective but ours is subjective. Amazing mental acrobatics 👏
serene lark
Ok if we are stopping great. Thumbs down from me and have a great day, thanks for making your suggestion and hope they consider if it would be a good fit for the game.
merry depot
The post is done, the ticket is open, you are perfectly free to have your own opinions just as I have the right to have mine. This discussion is currently going nowhere.
noble reef
First thing you said that makes sense to me
noble reef
When someone has to state they are sincere I find it less believable
But youre right best to stop this thread going nowhere
merry depot
I feel sorry for you.
That reminds me of my favorite saying 🙂 "Suspicion carries prejudice, and prejudice paves the way to failure." It's in one of the best film i saw : The Gentlemen
noble reef
Haha no one can say youre not a talker even if its mostly empty
merry depot
i am 🙂 even alone ^^
wet slate
I have to play 20/40 hands of poker for my dailies/weekly’s and need 4 pairs to finish the weekly challenges. If I was required to play in the high limit rooms I’d be out of money in record time. I enjoy just burning time in the lower tables to finish those challenges.
merry depot
Ah! Finally a clear answer that one could call objective from a perfectly understandable point of view that I hadn't thought of, thank you.
merry depot
That said, I'm returning to the subject because no maximum amount was mentioned before the negative reaction. I remain convinced that a player with, for example, a bankroll of 50 million has no business playing at the 25/50 tables, raffle ticket or not.
sand cargo
fair minnow
That said, I'm returning to the subject because no maximum amount was mentioned ...
Totally disagree
It is a great place to hone skills & learn without being locked into more expensive tables
Plus this is a social game, size of one’s bankroll shouldn’t come into it
merry depot
I think that when you have a million in the bank, you no longer need to learn how to play poker, unless you received it as a gift from a friend. And that's where the negative responses come in, because I remain convinced that you're not answering the question in the post. I completely agree with being able to give your chips to whomever you want; they're ours, we're free to do what you want with. I've received them, I've given them away, and I enjoy it. That said, you're responding as if this wouldn't be possible if public tables were restricted to a certain amount. I've never mentioned private tables would be restricted too; I'm speaking on behalf of new players for whom 5,000 chips is enormous, while for others it represents absolutely nothing.
This is the only logical reason for so many negative responses: a misunderstanding of the post because it was interpreted selfishly. There is absolutely nothing in this idea that could harm millionaires, apart from questioning the functionality itself, which has not been questioned at all.
serene lark
I know I said I was done with this and wished you well on your request but You said you were done and this was going nowhere and everyone was entitled to their own opinions. You might want to reconsider calling anyone who doesn't agree with your idea as interpreting it selfishly. I gave significant thought and consideration to your idea and formulated my own opinion, and don't appreciate such effort as being labeled as selfish just because I disagree.
As you said earlier everyone is free to have their own opinions. I would add, everyone should be free to have their own opinions without being accused of interpreting something selfishly. Doesn't seem very free to have their own opinion otherwise.
noble reef
I'll also just add there is already a game mode that negates any advantage that a player with a bigger bankroll has in cash games, its called sit and gos or spin and gos. In those modes there are no ways to buy back in.
Cash games by their very definition will always allow players to buy back in as many times as they have the means to do and I really dont see that changing.
merry depot
I'm sorry I didn't mean to call anyone "selfish." I'll thank Google trad later.
Yes, that's true, I'm playing more Spin & Go's these days. In fact, I'm aiming to win the medal in the $100k buy-in event this weekend. It's true that it's partly a question of rebuys, but more about the subjective value we assign to our chips based on our bankroll, whereas in principle, a common value system is established for all players regarding the buy-in of the tables. What I mean is, it's like having players earning $1,000 a month play together with CEOs earning $50,000 (just an example) a month at the same table.
They can more easily exploit Stack Pressure or Bully/bullying strategies, which works very well.
But I now understand that the players actively participating in the discord discussions are mainly active players with reasonable buy-ins, so I don't really expect to get the opinion of average or new players in this discussion. I think they would agree with me