#Hole Skilling on mobile

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sour sleet
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I did some digging (pun intended) into the mobile version of my game, and I'm sorry to announce...

It is not safe to progress the hole on mobile.

The overflow issue still persists on this version, but in a rather quirky way. I haven't gotten negative numbers, but instead, my gains are immensely smaller than they should be. Now, keep in mind, I'm F2P and at the end of W7, but not a candy clicker, so these figures are attainable for everyone!!!

As seen in the images, I made a 2 minute claim and got way fewer resources than intended. (I also returned from the web version and got a 55 minute claim, which gave me around 500m. I don't have the image or the exact number, but considering I'm making 112B an hour and couldn't get 1b in 55 minutes is saying something...)

If we do the math, a 2 minute claim should be 1/30th of the afk sheet, or 3.743B (uh oh. Over the 2.14B) How this translated into a measley 23M, aka 0.023B, is beyond me. Regardless, this spells disaster for people who are even just hitting 2B an hour, or 2B in 4 hours, etc...

TLDR: Skilling caverns are not safe on mobile!! Lava, you might wanna fix this, and preferably with something besides a 1B cap...

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hollow shoal
sour sleet
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I'm afraid that is actually incorrect. From a technical standpoint, the 1B isn't a cap. It's a safeguard. If you exceed the 32-bit integer limit of ~2.14b, then you hit the negative range, which Lava safeguarded by implementing a 1B cap. However, this system is more like a cycle.

For example, there's this pair of images here...

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I have way more than 2.14b in afk gains, but I achieved 1.91b after a 1-hour candy. I've done enough fiddling and testing to know where the safe zones and danger zones are in this system. Every ~4.29b (the entire range between negative 2.14b to positive 2.14b) is, from a calculations standpoint, erased.

You will never exceed 2.14b resources obtained, but you will never get a negative result, leaving you with nothing. Lava safeguarded that. You can, however, get less than 1b, even when you make trillions on your afk sheet, all because of how the cycle of this system works.

Unfortunately, as I've discovered, this cycling of numbers doesn't work the same way in the caverns. I also did a 3-minute claim, which was slightly larger than my 2-minute claim. However, the 2-minute claim entered the negative on an internal level, so the safeguard should've triggered. The 3-minute claim was in the positive, so it should've yielded over 1b but under 2.14b. However, neither of these outcomes occurred, and merely resulted in 23m and 31m...

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Therefore, the safeguard system isn't actually being applied or there's some serious sauce cooking in that spaghetti called code...

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If caverns was using the safeguard system, my 2-minute claim (which mathematically yields 3.743b) should be brought back down to 1b, all because it exceeds the 2.14b limit and cycles back into the negative.

My 3-minute claim mathematically yields 5.615b, which, while over the 2.14b limit, is also over the 4.29b cycle, leaving us with 1.325b, which fits into the system and can be outputted.

Again, neither of these outcomes occurred...

hollow shoal
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Thats a lot of math I didn't fully understand.
I am gonna assume the short form is that:
there is a cap, it's always gonna be less than that and that cap is too low for caverns.

sour sleet
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The TLDR is that the cap isn't working properly in caverns and is basically making gains 100x worse overall.

hollow shoal
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Oh ok, lava should fix that then.
Hope you as a mobile player have some other activities to do, while it doesn't work properly.

sour sleet
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Oh I just tinker with the mobile version every now and then. I don't actually progress on it. I use the web version.

hollow shoal
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Oh ok. I use a mix of mobile and pc.

sour sleet
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Works very well, if I'm being honest. Some things actually suck to use on the PC version, like the gaming skill. The lag absolutely sucks... On mobile, that's not apparent.

On steam, everything lags...

hollow shoal
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Yeah but on mobile you need to be careful. Cranium Cooking, Dk crystal farming and spelunking, can just suddenly crash your game.
Or atleast thats my experience, not to mention the severe lag spikes every now and then both on steam and mobile.