#midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ
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Sold 9! Now im back to 0
fr? is it never ending or smth?
Advice fish
Yea, that glimbo trade
idk what tha tis
ah
And theres vault 2, vault 3
wait for all upgrades...? can raise max lvl?
Maybe you just maxed vault 1 or 2
oh wow
nah im not even close to maxing vault 1
but close to unlocking all
For some upgrades, not all
ic
Unlocking all cost like an unimaginable amount of coins
icic
also for WW i just got a fire bow
shld i just always use this even when no ele advantage
like just better than using my normal mode weapon?
oh yea i think it is
U will need every element soon
my highest sample is 40% ig
Build time for buildings is so weird... 78T for Lv97 Fireball tower, yet 27T for Lv101 Boulder tower.
bubo is so shit
Bubo is awesome.
unlocking tremor worms map gonna take so long
yo why can't I get my anihilation kill on slimes, seems impossible
*abomination you mean?
no it's a death bringer thing
ohh then idk
is tremor worm the one after this
Try manually doing it. Give the game roughly 4 seconds once you load in. Prio the horde mobs. It's a larger than normal map.
I have tried that but I'll try again
yes
gonna take me atleast 1.5 weeks at this rate
the map im on has like 2.5m portal or smth lol
Worst case scenario, book your Combustion ability for the added range.
feel like u can buff ur afk kills
im lvl 473 bubo and i get 250k per hr
howwww
talent lvls, better weapon, armor?
alchemy
vault, the portal upgrade
prob a lot more
yeah imma have to try this
got it booked, at level 361 now
I'm praying this helps 
If you think Slimes bad, wait until you get to Moonmoons.
Guyz what are zow active ? like i have to stay in the game ?
Bro I'm so cooked, i needa figure out where to put this damn tombstone, I still can't get it
What worked for me was above Glunko miniboss
like that platform above it or where it spawns?
Yeah
Wdym "zow active" I only know zow
Doesn't the skilling node thing still work?
Skilling node? You mean the frogs?
No with like boss doors and totems where you could place the tombstone in it and force the tombstone mobs to spawn in one spot? Did that get fixed?
I don't believe it works like that on slimes. I placed it in almost every spot I could and the graves were rather spread. But then again, I didn't put it on the frogge platform.
I meant for moons bc of the totem
Oh... Moonmoon map has a bugged platform, if you put it too close to the totem they spawn on an unreachable platform.
I'm about to quit db ๐ญ
Wait why are we doing db slimes again?
if you kill 200 in 60secs you get a damage bonus
Oh that
the map is huge
Ehh that doesnt sound like a big deal
I feel like it's bugged bu it's probably not
How big ur axe/combustion chance?
booked at my max
U in w7?
yeah
I see remind me does db have a unique movespeed or not and if not is yours like 320%+?
almost 1k
Okay well the only thing left then would be.... movement optimisation and if that dont work probably bugged u need to try and unbug it someway
is there a way to check how many unique kills you have for the DB unlock quest?
To make sure u can pull up (or take note of) the guild kills quest
Unlock quest?
kill 1 more mob
Ah that
lmao bro got 4 answers
who pinged >:c
can't find any I haven't done yet atm
in w6?
he has dementia gear (cant get void cuz salt locked
W5 rush to worms
im in w6*
my bubo gotta rush to worms but he slow af
maybe equip some gold food?
are you hitting mulitikill
also link it to the harpier
who
nope :(
how much damage you do
have the lab bonus active too
yeah i have nobisect, lab thingy and jocund
Cc I assume
well if you can't do 1.5 bill damage with one hit there is no point
tremor worms are beefy boys
arcane cultist quest
how about ur talents, do you have booked the important on es
400 tremor worms in 200 seconds is going to be really difficult if you only doin 300k damage
uhhh they max 140 on average
im waiting for my library to get some checkouts
try to get some lvls on teh first page, the sword oens
that sure helps
say wallahi bruh say wallahi ๐ญ ๐ญ
ohh okayy
nvm you can probably do it
and uh other then that?
i did some uh vaulting too
should i active?
yo do you have an IT?
you chould try ^^, its hard to say without knowing what you miss,but summoning give very big bonuses, also meals
yessir
im waiting for essence in summoning and uh getting new spices is a hassle
also alchemy ๐
alchemy op
people hate alchemy thats why i dont mention it :x its the ''a'' word
ew i hate that
do you have all your bubbles sir
i stole some of my dk's gear
??? wym
are all of your bubbles unlocked
nope
ok another hundred then I prob work on something else
you should unlock your bubbles, power of trione, tritwo, and trithree are absolutely op
The bubbles
it is not working for me today :< cant cehck it pwp

yeah ๐ญ
Green helps if u dont have enough for multikill, yellow is multikill. (Do these after the others pls omg)
did you look at sigils?
W4 prayer is also good for mk per tier.
Missing undead shrine too
Oh god let me see
Diabolical weapons aswell.
i exalted mason jar and crystallin what should i go for next
nah take your chars of sigils
mine?
get your cauldrons all to 170max on everything, like fr once you unlock all your bubbles just having them gives you massive gains
Exos
Golden apple
Ahh starsign neglect too
and after that
ayo our accounts were made like 10 days appart
I feel like they are missing quite a bit of stamps too
yeah
serious vial neglect, honestly vials are so good
why is exalting mason jar good?
but anyway for first 2, mason jar and crystallin good choices?
i mean bro its carry capacity for everything
Free dmg in salt lick
carry cap for upgrading other stamps and holding more gold food
Gold food cap I guess is one of the bigger ones
yo also like 90% of your meals take 0-10 seconds to upgrade, should prolly do that
iig
exalting multitool stamp may be more impactful for you rn
what are some weird mobs I might have missed for the DB unlock quest? (I already did bosses, arena chests, hole dogs)
i need div 50 tho... takes so long
but crystallin after then?
no do crystallin rn
is there a way to see total base efficiency for all skills?
huh ok
multitool after then for my third
not that i know of
Ahem 2x kills node?
i see thats unfortunate
wait what other stamps are you considering
i thought you said mason jar and crystallin
no idea
just want whats optional
i exalted mason jar, have 1 more exalt to use
yo choco chip appears 3 times this month hope ya'll ready
it shouldnt be very hard to get a 3rd
yea just some dust
ill use it on multitool ig when i get div 50
hippo artifact gives good damage too
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Oh god no pls no more choco chips I already have 8 
I want star sign doublers game
Or something
I started same week as exo so I haven't been able to get any yet, I'm excited, my cc and overall crystal farming will be 10x better
my chips are weak
actually it's more like 4-5x ๐ค
I go off vibes okay
Oh yeah no problem its just that I have a surplus and almost non of the other good ones
bro isnt this one fucking crazy?
my alchemy isn't great either but I just got larry to 300% so I'm going to start working on everything else
Hey I might be blind but where is the statue section in IT again?
account tab
Thanks
Gamble
General I found it
Nah im poor trust
that's the way ๐ซก
8k should be enough...
๐ญ that's a lot
Its good.... used to be amazing
That's in my chest btw
wait am i dumb
how do i get more people here, just have everyone visit the temple?
you untie them as you unlock new floors
Go up floors
Untie them
ah okok
yo review my account bruv 
cuz sneaking is p slow for me rn
like very slow
roast me
And if u dont have 10th char, create it so it shows up
it starts that way, gets better
Not sure I sir neglect am worthy but sure
wait so only squires shld be on cog board
but if they are the only ones who can make my best cogs, i need to have them there right? and then have no players on board?
and after i get others to lvl up i swap them for squire to make cogs and put squires back on board?
your cogs quality is based on the highest level of your cons, they don't have to be the ones to produce the cogs themselves
I would just leave them there, characters producing cogs still get xp
not as much but they still get some
but like red cog is lvl 40 +
only squire is lvl 40+
i cant drag my lower lvl people into the cog thing
ah I see
hmm ok
Remember to do reprints ๐ฅถ
yes just unlocked new cavern spleunking lets go
then there is the drop rate stamp and the all efficiency stamp
Copper is a major atom creator thats just neglect
Well I will say im impressed by some of the stuff... like zenith statues... u have a couple golden food thats ready for beanstalk, ur equinox seems neglected, ur w2 islands look neglected, ur bubbles are not all lvl 100, missing some ez vials, killroy neglect jade emporium/sneaking kindoff low for ur lvl I feel..... small stuff like this adds up
keep in mind I started same time as exo, but yeah it's all stuff I'm working on
U havent seen how bad my prints are lol (outdated like 3 years probably)
Where do I see account creation date again coudnt find it
speaking of killroy
ngl i dont know anything abt it
im on archer and mage
can i just go in on my bm and press auto? what shld i actually do
where it says all the tabs like w1 w2 and stuff, scroll to the top it's up there
ok yeah ill just go for efficiency i dont think i even have a drop rate stamp yet
The main idea is to not forget to do it weekly the bonuses and stuff I dont remember
hmm ok
ill just go in and try to kill everything then
my two month anniversary is coming up soon with this game ๐
you just go in, press auto and let the character kill things
I may be blind then is it in misc?
Then you get time bonus, skull bons and respawn time bonus after the fight
You want something like 3:2:1 ish split for time:skull :respawn
Y are you running kurk obols
the format is weird, but it goes d/m/y
afk gains
any tips
Ahh wierd dont see that on mobile 1 sec
to get afk gains?
lol ok dont care anyway
I'm confused what's the issue
balls
arcade balls until you get the 2nd shop which you can buy a third run from
also do i do killroy on ES or bubo
i think ES right
Yeah this is what I see sorry
no worries
Welp I guess it would be my time to drop my IT I guess.... beware of neglect
The most annoying part of convos like that, when I ask "why are you doing a thing" the person responds with. " I want the generic boost I already know it has" instead of the implied reason of the question which would be why do you think you need that small afk gain over something else
in your opinion what is better?
the more annoying part is when you ask a question implying that reason but don't recommend something else ๐
Drop rate, unless you're doing something like sampling
OR damage is your trying to push its such an open ended question thats why I wanted to know the reason
my drop rate is almost 300x and I know more is always better but honestly idrc about drop rate dementia obols personally
You could have just ended a sampling run and it makes total sense why you have afk gains
You see why I cant just make a suggestion w/o learning why this person thought kruk was best
my thought process is afk gains helps everything, my drop rate is good enough for rn, I'm not worried about damage right now either, haven't had issues yet so I chose afk gains idk, not like a particular reason
That is a definite important reason, you just think the dr bonus is too small and dont have enough afk gain rate
I mean to each their own im not gonna make a big argument for dr obols with a mindset like that. Unless your farming for an item or something of the sort it isnt gonna matter
idk how much afk gains is enough, I guess there is never enough, I only have 786%
With no big mulitpliers on my AC rn I lose 16 dr not having my dr obols
Considering people recomend 10mil gold afk food + 1mil gold afk food beanstalk.....
Now is that a big deal in the grand scheme of things? no. But it all adds up
yo did you take a break from idleon for a while?
A couple of times
For example what that afk gain compares to at my current place of progression
1 time in w4 and 1 time after w5
But this doesdnt have 10 different ways to multiple it higher
Well bad exampl bc gold food specifically does have a lot of ways to make it better lmao
yeah, I mean with my dr I'm pretty happy with it rn, and I haven't gotten the massive dr bonus people get from the hole, idk what it is but I've been doing the hole more lately so hopefully I can get a better grasp of the mechanics in there
Hol is things like master rupis and golem temple
you should get your last few vials
I am know as the man whose auto review didnt work back in the day because I had a char that didnt log in for over 400 days so it was missing the data for newer content lol
Trying but u know
see idek what that is
just need to get opals and level expolorer
ANd get some of the magic guys bonsues too he adds a lot of good xp things
wait when did they add a new sting
wtf
bro, one of your archers has a print for 800 green mushroom caps ๐ญ wyd
Ik ik
But my built up print multi tho 
bro you are getting like 2x print multi on a 400 mush cap print let it go ๐
also why you building shrines when your totems are low
you should upgrade mage towers and do td
I mean I'm there aswell but td is important
Dont mind my numbers they are bad, but these are the big dr things from hole
and ofc monument
are these additive or multi?
Whoi knows, but IT will tell you if you click on a characters drop chance
bro your cog bord is gross, get rid of all the characters that aren't dk and put them on cogs
also like 90% of your meals can be upgraded in less than 10 secs
bro you have a santa hat on ๐
Yeah as a main helmet
your bubbo HAS TWO PREMIUM HATS EQUIPPED LMAO
nvm that's your voidman
oh shit you salt locked brother?
You seem to be salt locked
More like critter locked I feel
well all your chars should be in troll or at least close too it, and I see you have like no black salts
Considering I entered the stage of no scorpions for green salts.... its just neglect of trapping
ah I see
Besides omniphau or whatever should be able to carry that somewhat
idk how much you play every day but you should do 20min claims
if you can
I would rather dies but maybe I should for a while
you def should, way more efficient, ik it's super annoying though
Suprised there isnt a speed multi to trapping yet
Something like sailing minimal travel time would be nice
oh you only got 37 research damn bro
I was gonna ask about your sushi but you're prolly stuck
Yeah afk is the only way im getting things done and that is ineffective
Doesnt help im on mobile
oh yeah that's unforutante
Which has higher restrictions
Yeah there is no way I would be able to afk over night (probably not even with auto loot at this point)
fair
Btw I feel like im doing something by accident in sneaking that should not be possible, is that something u can check in IT?
how do you place shrines?
Special talent from ice cream npc
cool thx
best elixir combo for grand discovery?
check the pin messages in w7 chat (this is w3 w4)
Where's sushi station?.
hey just me, or does orion really slow down at around megafeather 14
mf10 + 14
Okay yeah im there too that is kinda slow
its like at least a couple days in between MF i think
Might be able to minimaly speed it up with upgrade vault (or the w7 guy that ups the max lvls on that)
Nah no way its that bad
Like 1 day or less surely
def not 1 day or less, at least not from MF 14 to 15
As long as u come into the game to lvl up ur mini reset multi a little it shouldnt take days+ I dont feel
hopefully w7 helps with it
still like w6 map5
Well its not like it helps that much just ups the max of the upgrade vault upgrade and even that takes a bit of grinding for a few lvls
huh ok
Like maybe if u make 1bil green salt/h but yeah this aint gonna help much
does the sigil research upg work even if i dont have the sigil tier in between?
No
like I havent beat the spelunking boss for that inbetween tier
Welcome back Mary. And I don't think so, no
UGGGGHHHHHH i just maxed all my sigils
Doesn't it say it needs the other one? Or am I thinking of the artifact one
My research will level soon
Hi gyys whats the best first elite class to get
All of them
You'll get all of them eventually. Just the one that can quickest reach the elite promotion map (demon genies)
I got BB first because it was my most powerful
Alr
Arguably take the ones that do world 2/world 4 skills
Your first 7 characters is just 1 of each warrior/mage/archer subclass + beginner
They should all be able to push the first few portals of world 4 pretty easily. I'd say if you really have to pick the first one to push, make it the one who gets Lab benefits (Shaman->Bubonic Conjuror)
In Reddit
oh
so does this ever end cuz ill be here for hours
how much lag?
Well considering u have high performance on... probably
theres no lag its just monolith spam
what round should i go to idr the bonuses
200 is the last bonus
Well 200 is the last with bonuses
Oh i started on wizard
That's fine, it doesn't really matter
My plan was so that i can get woodular circles fast cuz i heard the elite class of wizard good for mob items
You'll get all your characters to elite classes quickly
And i can make diffedent sets of amarok to push other ppl
That's true, yeah; ES is good for baseline mob drops
You can hand-me-down your armor as people sit in lab
Accuracy sets
True yeah you'll need 3 sets as a result
Yep thats what im going for
Also should i br saving my eggs
Only discovered 4 species rn
Its ma first day in w4 so i dont have the shops
I think it's fine to just kinda send it. You may want to get your DNA splicers online and do 2 minute rotations to splice and make it easier
Ye i go6 no clue what a splicer is
Assuming you have that mechanic unlocked. I'd generally use your eggs constantly, though. IIRC the fewer you have the more quickly a new one shows up
Gun from w4 shop
The tool from w4 shop
Splicer is in w4 shop
I bought that and upvradrd agility for my wizarf ti get accuracy
I dony know its use*
Basically when you claim AFK on a zone (assuming the auto-claim is unchecked in advanced options) you can turn the drops into DNA instead, which you can use to boost next mob chance
Ohhh
So just equip it on the character afking?
It's pretty useful. Eventually you won't need the mechanic anymore, but that'll be months from now, so it's pretty useful
Yeah, you should be able to buy a couple per day. For sure get your entire team on them if you can
The stats do, but it's only an afk claim mechanic
It's not that important. I wouldn't juggle around if I were you; just buy 10 as they become available
Okay ty
And last thing, i just unlocked my 7th character and ik its supposed to be some secret class, but i only see 3 classes
You have two options:
- Make a 2nd Squire
- Leave them as beginner (Do not do the w1 class quest) - Check the wiki for how to do the "secret" class quest
Oh alr
They won't be useful for a while tbh but eventually that class has a lot of good account-wide bonuses
And it's pretty annoying all said and done, so gl ๐
I feel like 2nd squire kinda better cuz i can then get construction going smoothly
Yeah it's honestly not unreasonable to do Beginner (Voidwalker) last
Alright thank u man
Happy to help. GL!
Ty
Does anyone have a character whose names start with P?
Which one gives more resource? One getting the resource then 3d print or 3d print then lab so 3d print would be doubled? 3d have 2 slots.
Lab bonus is retroactive, you can sample then turn it on
Generally I don't think it's worth you spending much time actively harvesting resources unless you need the skill levels. I'd almost always spend as much time as possible pushing for the next worlds
How do I win all pet battles
still need someone?
What is meta for pet battles
I'd still stay fighting w7 portals (or maybe Spelunking for pages). Just let the 3d printer handle it with Arctis linking everyone
There should be guides in various places for exact comp.
yeap, can u go to world 1 town pizza 8 if u have?
sand giant - snelbie - stick - mimic, is the starting meta, not sure about after that
Funny thing is only one character can be on w7. They'll die. Lol.
How do I get peapod
Should I go Mana box for the cooldown or Construction box next?
Can you use w6 regen food? Ensure you're not using prayers that lower defense?
Got one shot by crystals
W7 kinda sucks to fight actively when you first get there. Just make sure their AFK survivability is close to 100% and you're OK, then go like gold food farm or something on your DK ๐
It's a ton of XP and that means you get legend talents
That'll super charge a bunch of your progression
For w7, I know weapon should be as higher as possible but what's decent armor set just ffor survivability?
Whatever you can make tbh
Troll armor is a reset point; it's made from scratch, but the components are annoying
Using w6 upgrade stones should help a lot in making whatever you're wearing stronger
So either push Dementia up as far as you can or start making Troll gear, but it's worth getting more modern gear at this point with w6 stones for the attributes/defense/weapon power
Great. Thanks.
Troll+
Troll is the starting set
You need it for all the sets after
If you have amarok set bonuses permanently unlocked just go dementia and up
Voidwalker question: What counts as a "Unique boss kill". Are all Amaroks counted as the same thing, or is each difficulty counted separately? Along the same vein, does each difficulty count as a separate portal or are they a collective portal?
each difficulty counts as a seperate portal
so if you kill nightmare amarok, you get +3 portals and the boss vain boost
if you kill chaotic amarok, you get +2 portals and a smaller boss vain boost
Oh, higher difficulties give credit for the lower ones too? That's fantastic. Thank you
I have one of your still looking
already got but appreciate it
No problem
does this only apply if that character is the one to open a chest?
Yes.
ty
hello guys, this game is a lot confusing, im at W3 right now, half way through it, what should i focus on? cause i keep finding new things to upgrade and things like that
make sure to keep an eye on the refinery, salt is a big bottleneck
get all you characters trapping, and doing worship
only one needs to summon the tower defence(usually hunter with kick and vines) the rest can worship, but keep the maestro as the highest level in worship
worship has two options, summon - play the tower defence game, worship - just collect the reward based on your highest wave completed
oh i didnt know that
and how can i use it?
i played it one time at the goblin map
W3 town shop sells the starter skull, equip one on everyone, you gain charge overtime to play it
thats another thing, you might laugh at me but i dont know where the W3 shop is
the igloo
holy....
Don't forget alchemy, unlocking new bubbles leveling them up and vials as well
yes sir im doing that, trying atleast
saw someone talking about prisma bubbles here
Yah besides that I would say clickers and vault.
sorry whats clickers?
Its a w6 feature, you could get some early with pack or in last event though
ohh okok
Have you explored the other maps like by birch tree in w1 or use the secret item at the bottom of w2 shop?
the one with baba yaga yes
You should be able to see if you unlocked them through the quick ref in codex
the one in w2 no
and its called clickers?
I would recommend doing that one as well(should get the w3 one for free)
I just call them that because its basically a mini clicker game
Its Orion then you cycle through them
oohh and they are important?
I think you need to purchase the secret map to unlock quick ref
i have the secret map but idk where to use it
there will be a visit button here to change, its a bit jank
They offer important bonuses like defense, accuracy, afk gains and much more
alright alright
W2 crabcakes top platform
gonna try npw
worked!
ok so focus on salts, alchemy, clickers and the tower defense, and trapping
yea
some are more important than others for u rn
tower defense will be very slow because u cant play it many times a day rn
Yup you can wait a little bit to get into tower defense and trapping construction will play a huge role in those
ngl i just started to get into trapping
my chars were all still using cardboard boxes like 20 mins ago
needed it for shiny critters for anvil pg 4
Yah very real I stopped after getting the max trap saw no reason to push for the last few tiers
was waiting for the construction thingy to do it
massive qol buff, trapping without that is so painful
yeah the drone is big
what do i do with extra masterclass weapons, just drop em?
wow i just realized i have santa pack buff, -75% cheaper masterclass upgrades
and i have the shallow watters pet with 4x drops
and its still this slow...
I discovered that if you put badumdum, targeter, miasma and monolithic to farm spices you get some good rates lol.
Does anyone got that salt chart rank so you dont get salt blocked
Do I only need one char linked to goharut or harriep to get their bonus on all chars? So for example I link my 10th char to harriep do all my chars 3d print 3x more or only the linked char?
Why is it a pain to class up the poison mage compared to the berserker or beasty ๐ญ
Salt blocked? Whats that :c
Im blocked by salt. We'll mainly blocked by the lack of salt i can make๐ญ๐ญ
Ohh im too behind for that issue
Lowkey havent done shit on construction except the yellow upgrades
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I didnt even think about construction and salt๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ i was thinking about the green/purple/black salt for gear๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
Dont need salt for construction anymore
What, you mean other resources?
my build rate is only 6.56k, is this normal
not really you should be able to hit 1 mil even without a full board
are the coral reef construction bonuses additive or multi
additive
huh
whats the big ones im missing?
my board is just full of xp cogs
I mean its still a 200% gain(most will come from statue and gem shop)
you want your dks there and with the talents to help with build speed and exp, while having and upgrading these 2 bubbles. statue is huge but only helps with exp
ah yea maybe my dks r issue, they r only ones able to make red cogs so i had to put them in there
yah your build speed basically only comes from dk always have them on the board(you still get exp for other characters off board so you will eventually get it)
research exp pissing me off
Are you struggling to get to 52?
I mean you have the right setup and going for the correct board?
i have my shape on the exp multi yeah
can I put both shapes on it actually??
no sigh
sadly no, but you want to focus on the top right side and have as many monocles as possible(insight is also huge)
yah insight and kaleidoscopes are huge
I do have a kaleidoscope!
have you seen the research calculator
helps a lot
the what now
Its a site to optimize your researchhttps://corgan.github.io/idleon-research-optimizer/research-optimizer-v2.html
woah
I know I should use this... but is it the worst thing if I dont?
No, at a point it is pretty apparent(you do loss some efficiency but its not huge) The setup is usually along these lines(unless its changed in the past 2 weeks) and you just move to farthest observation possible
Did u see lava flame in peanut 15 town 1
probably testing new update
I've been having pretty bad rng with my observation unlocks but besides that does this look alright (and yes I'm working on getting more insight and kaleidoscopes)
I'm getting like 200k~
I would do this to help speed up the insight once it hits lvl 1-3 you can stop and switch for magnifying glasses(you always want the kaleidoscope helping the last observation). The other might be better if your insight bonus is high enough
Where do I go to find the teams for breeding?
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
go to the pet tab at the bottom of sheet and it helps. for later spice battles you would need to ask its not that recent
At the moment I'm getting 90k less xp from it but Ill trust the process
I think I hit 50 research today, man it got faster when I found that insight boosts spot
you want to leave it like that for at most a day then switch the insight with the ones above the kaleidoscopes
after lvl 2 you can get at most 1.5x to exp multi for that tile if you have the research bonus maxed but should still easily give you 1.2-1.3x
There is actually a tool someone made that tells you a step by step way you can do the insight leveling and where to put shapes for most efficiency
I see...
is plump and stalk not the play?
it 1000% is the play
Both of those started to fall off with the amount of crops I shoved in at 1k so I decided to try that one
Should I stop at 5k levels each or just keep going?
You didn't have nutto yet?
I stopped adding to stalk at about 85% just focus plump rn
85% of the bonus or your attempts, sitting at 14 right now?
85% of the bonus
what. when can you double up
Nice another great tiny cog
also what are the colors..
lvl 40, colors are from insight
my first one was fantastic, ever since haven't been able to match its greatness
Bro wth is the frog crystal farm its lagging me out and I'm not even on my reset
I stopped getting that particular max crop value at 55%
i see
Ye its rough out here not everyone can get a dozen t8's like phil
my highest is t7 ๐ญ
Same
to badgur for better tiny cogs
If it was possible to help others in more ways to compensate for my luck I would have done so
go gamble, use your luck to win, then give us some money ๐
nah just the arcade is more then enough for me...
Ill go gamble on mtg
magic the gathering? ๐คจ
if it makes you feel better I forgot to invest into attention span so sushi is basically impossible
you edh?
TCC tells me all the time that mtg boxes are a scam and not worth the cost
No cedh but yes
still higher than mine lol
yah but Im sitting on lvl 55 research and should have no reason why I dont have atleast one max
Real I go do sushi click some buttons and leave because not enough dopamine, I'm only at tier 22..
well your research level has allowed you to get further along than I
Definitely my fault for only pushing 1 character while the others were in lab/div jail)
yeah I went from 37 to now 45 since sushi came out
I think once you hit 52 you really have no excuse with east winds and all
I will say went from 800k to 2.6 mil and its huge
Fully investing into kruk for this next week
Sushi noob
Well I reached a point where kruk is basically useless besides for exp for construction(all are around 50-60k)
I love alchemy, saving my build rate from this dogshit set up
working on it right now(very disorganized)
And now that we cooked breeding, I believe a dessert is well deserved.
is my setup okay? I've put off going for new tiers in favor of filling my board with bigger numbers so my fuel can be much higher
I mean its fine until you get the winds upgrade I guess
I have been doing that myself
I should probably get another campfire and fill up another row now that I think about it
At this point I wish there was a select random squares button in minehead this is so annoying
I have no idea but dont think the wind upgrade works that way(needs to be the exact next slot even if you dont have one there). also fuel is a joke reach max in about 30 mins...
do i need to wait til this gets to 4.95m for it to really be "done", or is it maxed out once im at lv20?
yeah I reach mine in morethan an hour so every bit helps
not cooking anything in the last kitchen is criminal
level 20 the bonus does not get better
maxed I believe
ight so essentially once i pass 19 im good, i dont need to wait until it eclipses 4.95m
then once your done that you pretend the skill doesn't exist or do breedability
awesome
Have the gen chat players bitched to lava about how awful his mine head minigame is
Because this really needs some changes imo
๐ญ so bad, I'm doing it rn and it sucks
I've been told it becomes bearable when you reach lvl 55 for the button and everything else(not sure how much I agree though)
Forgot to buy it even though I had the coins. Made me look like a bunch of baloney. Or buncha something else...
Send it or more squares
How many lives?
This is the opening hand
was gonna say looks like he used a shield
send it you have so many lives and only need like 3 mil
you get like an average of 2-3 and only need like 12 rounds
The next opponent has a really good bonus too
did I mention how shit this is
That whole game looks like bs.
I have a good feeling I will hate that when I get to W7.
You basically need to win round one or its gg
THe odds are not what you would assume based on the amount of bombs vs tiles
Its only bad once you have expectations once you have given up it becomes slightly more acceptable...
does the gold food bonus meal is in here?
or you can sit there for two hours choosing one tile and then attacking over and over only to loose right before you get it
this shelf. specifically?
yes there is a gold meal bonus
Truth be told if I was never spoiled about this game and I came into W7 I would know this is straight up dogwater to do.
nah within 5 rounds you still will hit back to back mines
talking about in that shelf or is it on shelf 4?
that also happens to me but usually I live a little longer, I also haven't tried to push him very hard either becuase it's a stupid mechanic lol
nvm not worth buying my way through
The issue is I pushed his upgrades so far but cant get luckily enough to progress
your 9 away I believe
top right
if it was 3 I'll consider going for it via blue gems but 9 is way too long
I'll just breed better companions for now
once you get monolith and bunny its basically free
OP now, finallly ribboned
Its so bad though...
how many ladles did that take
i find it funny how the meals get larger at later meals
I havent used a ladle in a year
damn
does this mean you have 1050M ladles?
actually wait
I dont kill minibosses actuvely anymore so no
ah
Ladles come and go so most wont have more then a greenstack
Almost a max meal for 30%...
you can get it to 68% with a t5 and lvl 129...
whats every way to increase zenith rate?
As if that makes it any better lol.
Statue drop, dr, and ac crystal
oh yeah I need to check tesseract
there are sneaky things like spelunking shop
that too! overstim is empty rn though sigh
What Chanel has the foraging guide?
Like spice?
Yea
im sure this is super useful and I did not at all waste any nmlb procs on this
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
go to pet tab at the bottom its accurate for the collection
thats painful
lol leveling all the shit meals so my gooder meals can get procs
Thanks
how much dmg should i have to get to croral crave
A lot
Leveling meals become so much worse, need to kill 6 event bosses just for like a 20th of the price and its impossible otherwise
for nametag or just for portal?
just to get there
Just check what kind of afk kills an hour your getting
I mean enough kills to open the portal within 100 hours
wait really, you dont push otherwise
but im like decades away from that map i just wanna know baseline damage
I did it with a few mil crystal but as long as you getting like 5m at minimum kph I'd wait a bit
for when i should start
well to hit multi kill you need 6 mil crystal damage
W7 is more of a kph check than a dmg check tho
Its 15mil
5x mk requirements In w7
I guess so, will say I was to juiced to really worry too much even my unequiped beginner was getting like 50 mil for last portal in part 2
is 15 mil 15QQ or 15QQQ
anyone have any intermediate teams
to go from first team to 2nd requires like... a lot of breeding time and i only have the pets in the middle if that makes sense
really? thought it was just the nerfing account thing
just use and you get stuff an progress and it becomes easy
15QQQQ bc its 1QQ for a crystal...
like use those teams? or use wtever i want
cuz like i have more recent pets that are higher power
idk if i wanna waste eggs to go back to the old pets
hopefully what im saying makes sense
maxed tesseract statue upg
I did the second strategy but with dadumdum instead of mono
up to u rlly lol i dont think i followed that either
idek what damage is supposed to be high and what is low now
I used to just go by if my damage touches my weapon or not
whats a dadumdum
Am I just shit and dont know anything?
Stupid auto correct Badumdum the drum usually the whale
dadumdum = the dumb dumb
Your min is a bit higher than my best with full dmg setup and p2w gear so...
Nah just autocorrect not listening
where should i ask about trades?
pet trades?
last time i did breeding was w6 and i kinda gave up on it
yea
Nvm my dk is 300m short with a full dmg setup
yea cuz i need new spices for new recipes
That is not a damage setup
either onehttps://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1343435584164597780 https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1343435665513254975
Damn phil over here talkin mad shit
I assumed so
Only thing I'm lacking is like... gkebabs
like I am on my db with my cooking setup without boost foods, and my equipment is ass and your damage is not compariable...
gotta do colos
I did w6
To give a comparison
Its my favorite character he wears what he wants and doesnt need a weapon(was testing the effect of boost food effects and couldnt be bothered to change it)
Almost there 
the rings...
i dont have flurbos ๐
I mean I will be asleep next happy hour, but if Im hear and you ask I can as well
whats hmu
shld my other person be breaking door or sneaking around?
untie character -> break door(only have max 1-4 breaking door rest are sacrifices) -> afk for stuff
How much damage does one need to defeat Nightmare Kruk. Prefferably in a short period of time.
Does kinda depend on the character also
1Q hp so 1-10 T damage
If it's a SB I assume I need bit more than that.
less if anything
Do u need a lotta defense or most people just need dmg
Does my damage fall under that category Phil?
defense is a joke you really never need more defense
Just use ES bubo or DK
No, I would say if you want to beat him with that, put all the damage boost foods and cards on him, cookies potions, bullets, and then the right damage card and card set
Legit the only boss Ill say that if you cant kill in a few hits its not good to use other classes... but you do you and I may be wrong
If you reach 500 bil you should be fine. still will take a solid few minutes
I remember needing several hours to beat him(left my computer on overnight and auto always killed moles)
So in summary I need a lot more umph to be able to oof Kruk.
At what point should I start running the colossems? I did the first one to get a recipe I needed but other then that I've kind of ignored them, I read some of the earlier ones aren't worth doing anymore?
you should be able to force yourself if you do add those things
boost foods 20x your damage, cards also 3-5x your damage
colo is usually run at w6 but once you get dk you can but want as much dr as possible
hey how come when i claim afk on my dk it gets the bonus afk liike 40 mins for refinery
but it does it for something else as well like sailing
2 bonuses?
W2 for kebabs right?
is either bubble or the golden hampsters
oh maybe bubble
I'd say W2 crystals are better for kebabs.
colo 2 early on w6 gives around 5x but costs are high so up to you, forgot about that
can compare again might be off
What char is w6 colo
ac
Summoning too
ah no wonder
sneaking also then
Breeding aswell.
hmm okok
900k in one run is wild work
Might have been 800k but still
any way to see what islands these r from in game
clicking the island doesnt tell u
w2 compared to w6(also got around 1.5 mil more golden coupons)
oops
The thing next to name(if you click on loot pile you can see the rare version if unlocked)
ohhh ok tysm
I forgot my dr gear
was the fish too strong?(forgot they did damage)
i forgot to heal myself since i went to the dungeon to reset my +xp -eff skill and it one hit me
Is it bad to say that I forgot taking dmg happens
No, I did as well
any tips? i get one shot
Funny part is they hit pretty strong lol.
I remember first getting to that island and dying because defense was from alchemy and alchemy and early game do not correlate.
carrot, skull, coffee, defense
Probably the only island for fishing where you should be concerned about survivability if you rushed.
u mean this?
nah, i just didn't heal
oh wait coffee = goblin right
Goblin instead of cake.
well it was a lot closer
As in.
just keep going defense is rng based
hmm ok
maybe boot mimic behind fleeter?
350k hp left instead of 1.7m lol
so mimic survives longer
which animals r those
the cake
I mean you can have it behind the coffee might help but if coffee dies too early its a dead run
Put the cake in front of the chest is what he is saying.
so no goblin
o i won
ty for the strats
yall actually know this stuff
I would hope so most of us are still actively pushing this skill...
i don't even know what i use borgor for
Maybe them 2 but in reallity the knowledge gap is still small.
i just use them to spice
As one should.
hmm ok whats my breeding strat now? shld i breed a couple of the mobs i use in fighting (like slime), but it wont progress me to new mobs
or only breed tryna get new ones
Do you have a SB?
Because judging from your breeding you could make a huge progress if you did some 2 min claims on green mushrooms.
wait wdym
Well "huge". Better than what you have.
Screenshot me your SB and his tools.
ok 1s
I would say need pets, once you get the monolith and bunny your done with unlocking new ones until its free
Definitely should've done this sooner got a 13m crystal dmg boost on my AC no dmg cards and only bullets to boost dmg
Okay you somehow have more damage than me but regardless.
Can you get out to gmush map?
Here is what to do. Put your SB in gmush. Prefferably have over a million kph. Or higher if possible. And go on another character. Wait 2-3 min and go back to your SB. And instead of claiming drops, splice instead.
ohh so splicing is acc good
i have 500k kph
This can help you push out new mobs pretty quickly.
cant i just use a candy
also for splice, i just upgrade the pet im currently breeding right
You can but be warned. Splicing has a big diminishing return. That is why I said 2 minute claims.
I'd show you a chart but cba to find it.
o i was on talent
1.3m kph
It is literally so bad after several hours that it's useless to afk like that.
ok cool ill do like 2-5 mins ty for this
but also ^?
Is that why I still cant max them... might need to find this chart, any idea who may have it or where to find?
Yeah. You could do 20 minute traps aswell meanwhile.
like i spend the green dna on the max pet i can
You spend it on the pet before the locked one.
So when you breed you increase the chance of getting a next one.
ok cool
yea just wanted to confirm that
hmm shld i upgrade my splice tool then
im mjust using the shop one
Man, I saw that chart a whileeee back. All I know it's actually insane how they diminish so fast.
hmmm I guess I can ask around thanks had no idea there was one
Do upgrade it if you have the recipe. I'll tell you where they drop. W2 splicer Pincermins. W3 splicer Thermisters. W4 splicer Octodars.
does the w2 splicer work better on w1 mobs, or only make it so u can splice w2 mobs?
I'd ask some older players if anyone got it they probably do. It's more of a mathematical chart than an actual helping chart but it def explains why you shouldn't candy splicing xD.
ok well it doesnt matter i dont got recipe anyway
ill leave that for future me
Makes it work on W2 mobs and gives you more stats.
yah was tring to see optimial times because amlost done the world 1 ones and its getting worse for the later world pets
I think thezebra would have it but dont think hes on
It's insane for the W1 ones let alone other worlds.
Especially when pastpres doesn't work on them ๐ซค
dyk how many gene spirals i need to get for each mob very roughly
like 1k, 10k, 100k, 1m
add w0 companion so you can get pastpres from w1
just do it on the last one you have unlocked and keep going until you unlock next pet
keep splicing u mean?
but then my sb cant be in lab jail
wait why did it have to be my SB anyway
Depends on mob to mob. Higher mobs need more. But you do not need to max them. You just need to increase the chance until unlocking the next mob. 1 in 10 or lower is great but later on you'll see you can sometimes gamble a little and get lucky.
SB has good kph.
For example I gambled today on a 1 in 20 chance and got a Borger. Meaning I have 2 more mobs to finish W1.
i have like 15 more ๐
wait im dumb
btw which row to go for first
top row right cuz i can only splice w1
Yes.
w1, w2 is the end goal but its only good ones are very far
whats the really good fighting pet in w1 anyway
Breeding is a bit like a snowball.
yea i kinda get that
If you'd ask me I'd say only good pets in W1 are the reffilers and the nutto.
W1 is more support oriented while the real deal combat mobs are in W2.
whats a refiler
Stick and Goblin.
oh its the ability ok
Its still important to go far because of the later breeding upgrade that helps with later world pet chance
I designate them by abilities easier for me to remember.
the problem with WW is the hp of all aboms resets when u leave map right
Also what Philo said at level 30 breeding you will unlock the pastpres multi which makes it so every mob that you unlocked makes other mobs easier to unlock.
Except W1. They don't have a pastpres multi applied to them.
sb in lab jail? how dare you.. this is how you USE sb
first people r angry at me for not doing lab jail now its for doing lab jail
u can never win
also thats not idleon anymore thats activeon
hmm lemme pullup the list rq
This game was never idle lol.
my latest unlock is omniphau
i have doot tho
tryna get purrmep cuz i need to link to that one
the idle was a lie
Wait you have doot and you are linking to Gods?
