#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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for move speed i dont realy see an option other that potion, or missed smt?
bubbles. but just use speed potion
welp nah
Ok was not aware they scaled so quickly, either way early w6 should easily get past 41. and once you have purple damage, or more progress in other things like alch, clickers, and statues, then getting to the end should be easy(so mid-late w6 if rushed early w6 if not rushed)
which card do you not have unlocked?
id say if u can reach leek spirit. u can clear rift
cus thats was when i personally did rift
the leek spirit portal lock
which map has leek spirits
w6...
yea obv man
Really, interesting, will say I finished before w6 so I might be biased, I guess
near the end I think its the 6th map
if ur there u know it
but the last node before it goes into the cloud area on the map
one of these then ig
abit more to the right
this?
can say most? xd, like only char that was in full w5 was my pusher but now i send my 6 other char ( ye the 100 ones ) for them to get lvls
wait am i thinking of the wrong plant
no im not so then wtf is this lava 😭 maps called above the clouds but on the map its just on a random road
yeah this one. if i remember right. thats the 1st spirit lock u encounter
wtf is a spirit lock
what it's the wooden spirits no?
this is why
ah did it finaly xddd
oh wait ur right but isnt that like 2-3 chars?
ooh makes sense i only saw a picture of the map before showing only the topside
ok dont worry about card sets then, just have fighting afk gains, multi kill per tier and damage cards. I run coldseekr bullets, dumplings, kebabs, cookies, and the stat golden food.(I would replace the stat golden food with another bullet for damage)
ah right he also lowered the amount of chars needed to unlock. i forgot he changed that when w7 part 1 came out
I think it was 4 but not sure what it is after he lowered it
oh is that what the number above the portal means
yeah last time i was stuck at leek spirit i think it needed 6
why this sounds soo much easier then 180 score orb XD
Its this. the portal still has a kill count usually though
no kill count = that char has unlock the portal
yeah i remember when i saw this on woodlin spirits the first time and was confused what it was about but by the time i had the kill count done i just passed through so i just forgot about it
around 6h and done with this one xd
maybe it has a spirit lock of 1 then
it was 2 but yea close enough
im on mama trolls rn but im ngl it feels like itll take forever to reach kill count
idk where im gonna spawn in the dmg for more multikill from
... there is so much wrong. You should be able to get more with food, your prayers are missing and dont even want to mention the afk gains.
the hole mostly
villager exp is so damn slow 😭
u got the shrooms cavern unlocked?
wait till the kill out reaches billions😭
nah i just recently got harp
well u might be right XDDD ( thats my sb / pusher)
lemme change
The fact you dont have the sailing one is concerning
im getting 2nd hand embarrassment. my setup used to looked like this too
u mean hapter gfood
guys what is the recipe for giga chip and tasty treat?
Ignore the low stacks this is my beginner. but should kinda look like this can remove dumpling and exp because you dont have them/need them
afk gains -> damage -> multi kill
if you cant hit new multi kill tier switch damage for multi kill
yes, do you have the boss card set, that can slightly help I guess
oh
You don't need exp pots for rifts...
Its not great but should help. Do you have those 2 bubbles in asked earlier unlocked?
prop not but can u say again with one u mentioned?
Its wa the kill per kill and mr massacre
One is a green big bubble and the other is a yellow big bubble
If you have sheepie those are all equipped.
You can use most of the green salts they are not really needed besides green tools and armor but you can skip them
Same with blue as long as your done with the salt lick upgrade(save a little for construction though)
Or unless you need void set.
need void ore first xd
you usually can skip those sets, and can do sets later
dense water lock is hell
you wont get them this high but here is what they can give you upgraded(mr massacre is 1.3k and kill per kill is 900) you want to upgrade them so nblb gets them sooner
your the 3rd person to say that why do you ned dense water(can get like 8 a day anyway)
Void armor/tools.
I know that but these people have like no alchm, equipment, or anything else, why start with the thing that is the hardest equipment?
eh idk what u talk about i have 300 in chect and dont know were are they used
That I don't know xd.
i wanna get better tools and armor on my guys
im buying 11 dense water daily but its just nowhere near enough
wait how nblb will get upgraded bubbles sonner?
NBLB only procs on bubbles above a certain level.
yes know that
you need 5 bubble levels to get them hit, and upgrading them becomes impossible due to high salt costs.
wtf how do u even have 300 of them
oh well no problem for me then : D
how long have u been playing
your not getting that for everyone right?
Dense water is insanely easy.
yea if ur waiting long enough then it is easy
you have like 20 more then me(havent bought them in years)
I use water to upgrade bubbles not for that nonsense.
u prop used some and i used non at least think soo
is this guy schizo
Probably.
you only need one set of void, and tools can wait till later once your account is all caught up(but you still continue to buy them daily)
For me it was easy because I did other things while water was cooking.
1 set ? later ones dont use void ( expect the begginer one ) ?
yeah i mean im not making a set of void for everyone but i needed to make some specific pieces to get some skill efficiency % armor pieces and then well everyones weapons and then ig the tools can wait but yeah
besides going for set bonuses for armory, you get amarok then in w6 wait for nullo salts(hopefully you didnt neglect salts) and go for troll basically everyone
hmm ok that lil better, now what about prayers like i have only 5 beacouse wanted to leave it until i get all towers/get earlier ones on higher lvl
amarok till w6 was definitely NOT happening for me
oh i just relised : finaly lvl 70 XDD
yah, you still need to recraft it for better upgrade stones, the thing is most of the middle armor till void, is worse sadly.
which prayers do you have(usually you want to always have skilled dimwit)
how far is your construction, you want to either get to wave 121 on w3 totem or 21 on w4 totem
ok now how u measure how far in con someone is?
or just write smt?
you can screen shot your build page and share it and tell me the levels for your td towers
and for towers from left to right lvls : 35, 29, 24, 19, 8, 1, 1 but can lvl them up beacouse last time done it it took days to get a single milion of con rate
like all of them that i have unlocked needs less then a mil of con
I doubt he will be able to hit 121 on W3 td.
well prop ye xdd
yah but the 21 wave should be doable
Yeah for sure.
you are working on the last few td to unlock right?
nah gona lvl up them first thats not gona take much time
hmm ok lets say i forgot to collect souls from tiny statue
Do you have the meal, the two vials for crabs and the w4 tongue drop?
oh didnt changed talents
use the boost food
shiny crab also has vial?
no regular crab, gives points for tower defense
oh then whats the second vial u mean
as long as you have the meal(if you have the equinox one you might be able to do the 121)
and this one ?
my kitchen preety bad
oh wait vial from toung
well now i have it
but wont lvl up much
if you want the set up for the w4 one I would put freeze, followed by 3 boulders and then 2 krakens on the bottom row and any more can just be party starters on the other rows.
hello, what "secret" means here
gona lvl up them first like i said got more con rate now soo gona get more lvls
could be wrong but as far as I know its nothing
ok thank you
So secret lava forget about it
its still better to do it alteast once, that prayer gives you more multi kill per tier
fractal the most worth to unlock?
and now BUT part : D
crystal and rando
i dont knwe about the last one i didnt unlock it yet
i just remember searching about this before and a few guys said to unlock fractal as third
seasalt
i honestly am not a big fan of the "make another player say xyz" quests like the final part of the cattleprod questline. feels impossible to do without actually asking
your in w6 no? so they have pretty nice, vials, huge for fishing exp and rando is not worth and crystal is decent but we get so much right now anyway
Could I please request a few more people to dance in w4 with me for the achievement? I'm in cookie server 16 please and thank you!!
well this is technically a multiplayer game
sure comming
thank you so much!!
i mean, sure, but ingame chat doesnt really get used outside of maybe dungeon groups. from what I have had so far
only this guy has a vial no? or does IT not show the other vials for whatever reason
Oh totally and talking to lava. I mean it promotes the discord
Have u asked in #party-finder-👪 ?
oh yes sorry its just one, but those are used for godshard most are used for the tools.(helps a lot with early game farming)
I have previously, but no one usually has responded. I'll try again though :)
try there are gen chat
Ye maybe also try #idleon-gen-chat
im ngl im pretty far from having any use for the fishes other than that one vial
rando is not really good besides talent book, and crystal should be easy to farm for you, I guess you could do fractual but the upgrades are garbage besides maybe the 2.5k hours and the 40k hours
yea i was just checking all the islands but idk bro they all seem ass for me rn
Most of then i just check weekle and i good xd
yah thats why I suggest seasalt due to increasing your fishing level a lot(for rift and other things)
i lowkey need to start actually leveling skills on my chars soon
I mean I get around 30x more exp from seasalt compared to the fishing map near the boat
if it makes you feel better w7 made it around 3x times worse
due to trash island and we needing 5 nametags...
yeah thatll definitely take a lot of time
for the shaman cranium cooking strat
if my lab is a bit bad rn what focus shld i have? any recommended cauldron bubble unlock order? or put him in liquid water generation?
you have the p2w tab maxed? before unlocking all bubbles you keep them in the bubble cauldrons, then you can either move them over to liquid while active on bubble and leave them on sigils when not
@thorny lintel dont wanna to worry u but gona need to end my dancing, time to sleep is comming
sadge, but understand!
Btw ty @peak lagoon for helping with builds/understanding some things
ye have the tab maxed
im just upgrading my cauldrons rn instead of unlocking more bubbles
have 3 pages of bubbles (well like 2.1 pages) for every cauldron
dk if i shld be upgrading cauldrons or trying to get new bubbles, also dk which cauldron is best for w4-5
also wdym i can move to liquid while active on bubble? i can only have my shaman boosting 1 cauldron (nonliquid cauldrons for bubbles, or liquid for liquid) at once right? im just wondering which one better to have them on
how can i place down shrines from the construction skill
couldrons are like types of bonuses ( but at the end even this is not true ) but every world has one bubble page, if u looking for 4-5w bonuses go for 4-5 bubbles tab
ice cream guy give u skill when compliting his quest ( mean the town npc )
On bubbo sorry, you really shouldn't be doing that without bubbo though
ohh ok didnt know
so i need 4 pages then damn
gotta unlock bubbles ig
well same, have 4 pages and i in w6 xd
or 5 pages dont remeber XD
I think there is 7 now maybe 8
i have bubonic, using his attacks on auto rn
ok good night everyone
well one world = one bubble page yes?
Man I can't wait to come back home had such a horrible day at work.
I mean we dont even have all the w7 bubbles yet
remeber, could be worse xd
ok now bye for sure xd
That sucks hopefully it gets better 
Eh I'll calm down a bit when I come home and play idleon.
I have a challenge to complete and to hopefully prove someone wrong.
So it keeps me going.
In spite we trust.
should be pretty easy to prove that guy wrong
does idleon autoreview tool list like the major bonuses im missing? if so i think i shld use it, too much stuff to keep track
does it even actually work every time ive clicked on the link the site doesnt even load
It has catagories for just about everything. It is very helpful if you are wondering what you should do and helps in basically every aspect (its should not be completely followed, though there are some issues but mainly for late game and endgame things)
Sounds easy until I say what the challenge is.
should load you might be doing the wrong link
I need to get 250k godshard bars by the end of the week. Challenge ends on Tuesday the 7th. 00:00.
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ its this no
And begins tonight at 00:00.
Get 2 min claiming ig
Yup.
I'll cheese some motherlode layers before midnight for extra efficiency then I'll reprint godshard.
Then I'll use maestro to hopefully get a good roll on printing.
I dont like what this is insinuating
you have those multi resource up? dont forget about those card sets and equipment
300%.
Yeah 300%, current max.
Can't get past that atm.
what do these even mean
Just making sure you need everything you can get
You don't have the hole bonus yet to make it 600% I'm assuming
It classifies your progress in different things into tiers, the left side shows what the tier is for and if you go to that section or click it, you can see why and how to improve
I don't have the point yet to be clear hahha.
its telling me that i should level my vmans well pretty much all skills but bro how am i gonna do that 😭
my other dk legit has a thousand times the mining efficiency compared to my vman
I mean you can prioritize other things I need 6 skills but chose not to do them
just got a lab ring while pushing is it good
ye i mean its not that relevant for me rn i feel like so im not doing it for sure
I mean put it on your characters stuck in lab jail it slightly helps
yah I myself stopped using this like 2 months ago when I finished all my non w7 sections. still nice to use as a reference though
i shouldve done all these specific amount of mat in storage things earlier
also why do some of them sometimes just not work
do i need to be in a specific area or something? earlier i was tryna do the have x amount of forest souls in storage and i tried waiting for a few mins and then tried cloudsaving a few times
and it still didnt register
why does it make it seem green salts r easy to get? i need orange salts to unlock blue to unlock green no?
it should as long as you have the exact right amount just try switching its spot in the chest and give it a few secs should work
I mean yah but because green is another tier it is basically impossible to be negative production for blue so you can always leave it on
ok
damn i only have 40 orange salts out of 150 to unlock blue even
salts just so slow man
I think its around 8x the time needed to rank up green salts compared to blue
basically impossible? 😭 bro i would be on negative blues if i ranked up my green multiple days ago
or does it work diff from comparing the other salts
with the power per cycle
oh wait cuz the time is different
look at the time difference, I can rank up my blue like 30ish times a day while green is more like 2-3(its actually closer to 15x)
forgot my green where half way done
so unlike how we measure them for the first page the second page green salts are permanently one, while we use the measuring for the next 2
well my other stuff is not balanced anyway so im barely even getting the mats to produce greens
lil problem
what does dice in arcade do
click it, if you get 6 you go to lava ball drop mini game and get extra acrade balls
this will totally one day be zenithed
all you have to do is amass 1 million statue coupons and then hit kapow
as of know it might be faster to get them from po boxes, but its not reasonable
praying to win a match today
um so this is impossible for me right? if im reading right, i can only store 100 gravel?
eventually you can expand it
you need the schematic from the 2nd villager
ok i just unlocked him
btw first villager, does he keep going? or stop once he fully explores hole?
so once he fully explores hole, the opals i have on him are wasted b4 i hit w7 right?
I mean as of now there are 15 holes, the only reason you would have to level him after that is the tome bonus but its fine.
you unlock something later that lets you move your opals so dont worry about wasting them on him, mainly want to do something like 40% go to him 30% to the next 2 guys
If a character can one shot an enemy bare-handed is it worth it to just give them a spare for AFK since they'll do multi-hit or is it still better to give them their class weapon (fists, wand, bow)
you still want them to have a weapon, for several reasons; one is multi kill, stats, and the misc stat on the weapon
god, i used to be so excited to play active db till i realized that i need afk bones
also some talents need their weapon like sword or wand
I mean if you just go through w1-w4 normally or using the guide you should earn most of them
the only time i played active db is to collect 1B bones for damage multiplier
what does doing tower defense at difference places give? more worship things?
different places? like different totem?
if different totem, then each has their own souls. exp just kinda depends on how well you did in it and how far you went on them waves
ye diff totems
shld i try to do a round at each totem or go as far as i can in one totem
Yes, each totem also gives prayers and you get a bonuses for your totel waves(you can unlock more bonuses later)
Besides the last 2 I believe, they dont have prayers yet
i found that this visual bug only affects on some characters
you still get the same print as if you have 5x
oh yeah, my guildmate discovered this which has also happened to me when i go check there
i used this and i cant enter arena? begin fight button doesnt work
you gotta use it before entering arena with the free daily entry
can u not use experience balloons on lab or smth
noppers
Only the red divinity pearls i think
Anyone give me an idea why my prints turned gold from purple? I don't know what i did or is that us bad at all.
might just be visual bug? 🤷♂️
finally will it stick tho
Still linked to harriep and thats what i thought was making it purple
Just Harriep is yellow. Blue is just lab. Purple is both together. Lab likes to be whack so it's probably just a visual bug if your lab is connected still
A 1000m increase since last print.
what's the star talent here? and does the % chance go up each purchase?
no it's always 1%
i forget the name but no the odds are flat
and it's that
ok, thanks
just dump all on skill eff
Is early stats not worth?
wait how does the armor smith work? it said to wait 13 days but its been 285 days XD
and still closed lol
it only counts day you login. starting from the moment it was implemented
alr so every day login 14 days will tick down?
wym? the star talents?
not sure and it's pow 10 dmg on the dummy
also 1% for 2 shimmer money so good luck getting it
thx :)
Whats shimmer money? also no the base stats...
the lil fairy thing idk it's shimmer money token
the dumbass that was me ruined by leveling some class exp 
Ohhh the currency but the scaling is so bad. im guessing its still worth just going for skill eff then
that's what I've been told when starting island expedition. That's what I'm doing
hmmm I think im committed to going for 50 base stats for all guess I'll go back to skill eff after. glad to know its wasted in advance though
Eh it's not an insane source so don't fret over it.
Though I will say the talent book is huge
Yup.
Yes.
was ES ever considered? SB had most dmg potential before already
and now it's proly AC with them skulls
Es or Sb before masterclasses. Now probably AC.
wait really? I only ever did es or if I needed another class
What i do is setup a ton of skulls then open talents menu to rest the timer and then big bonkage
was still SB, he had highest dmg with the speedna + quick slap and everything for that (before nerf, but still after I reckon)
cannon barrage
And that too.
or whatever the name
just clicking out then clicking again on the dummy to open the dps counter will reset too
Oh I see will have to try
What's the strat for shiny pets. Do you just unlock each one once and put them in the fence yard or do you just unlock the shiny level up rate ones and put them in the yard?
I mean you want to unlock them all since they start out at lvl 1 giving a bonus, but focusing on leveling up the important ones, like shiny level up rate, min sailing time, and infinite star signs
Ah I see.
infinite star signs, meal bonus, shiny rate, dr, ref speed, mkt
Oh completely forgot about meal bonuses ngl my bad. would say those and shiny level up rate you want to focus at the start
everything else is nice but still very small bonuses
can anyone help me with the weekly boss and what i should do to get 5 skulls? Trying to do an equinox unlox
!weeklyboss
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check one of these link. answer in it for 5 skull if it's possible
sup
was that how trading worked?
oh yeah
@peak lagoon oh man
I didn't know when you trade pets you'll keep them but you can trade just once
do you have a glunko?
wonder where that icon came from 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
which
oh
i'm noticing just the amount of assets and stuff that's reused from there
nice
should I trade it with a doot
or save for future
doot seems less important to me everyday
thats, actually very interesting I would say no.
How have you been though, glumko is huge ngl, must have helped a lot
well thats always good. will say doot is still pretty nice but we can connect to 5 gods normally so it is not as vital
Its hard to put a price on it, but its worth a 20$ pack easily. usually you can trade doot for new pets like deckhand, neon, (riptide might be worth more or less to person to person), pig, rift stalker. basically if a new 20$ pet pack comes out you should be able to trade for doot
I understand, thanks mate
what do we think the countdown is for
who knows, Im hoping its actual content though, not just some event. I think it could be the rest of w7 but he has been hyping this up way too much just to be the last part of w7
what countdown 😛
is there a way to complete the secret set if ive already summitted the nametag and trophy to the guy in W7?
you can reclaim the nametag should keep the trophy when turing it in though
oh I missed that
countdown 3 was on feb 20th
then there's 4 but no 5 whatever
I'll just keep not knowing about it
whats the main way to increase ladle /hour? is it cooking skill lvl?
might be the play to just be surprised and not have expectations(we easily have several more months of waiting)
only thing that effects it is afk gains and cooking eff
@peak lagoon Made some cooking progression since yday.
nice, thats some solid progress, you might be able to check up I think im hitting a wall myself...
Check up what xD?
Why can't I afk farm equinox?
I keep getting to round 46 and dying there. I wish I had the sand giant.
you cant afk in equinox
when I active artcis from research they'll still gain xp if they're connected to lab, right? currently they're linked to goat and they're in lab jail
no they dont gain any exp just the nodes stay active
if your willing if you spam trash eggs from the mini boss you should be able to level up to 50 and using your cooking lvls you can help get more new pet chance
How rattling
Yes I know it's the rattler I just call it sand giant because it's easier xd.
I mean you can also go for the meals, vial or stamp to help odds
Which vial was it again?
Its the donut
besides that all that can really help is getting more exp, the only reasonable ones are the vial, talent, stamp, meal, and statue
so there's no point of putting them in lab if artcis is active?
I mean I want to level up them
I mean to level them up(also you want to have them there and connected to the goat god to finish both divinity and lab jail quicker)
but after your done the grind yes having most or all of them connected will help.
Though you want the research upgrade. that god is one of the more important ones
recommendation for 8th character? 2nd squire?
!classes
One of each subclass for the six first characters, JourneyMan can be slot 7, 8 or 9. For three others characters you can do Wizard / Bowman / Barbarian / Squire.
Finals Objectives :
- 3 Warriors - 3 Archers - 3 Mages - 1 Secret Class (balanced)
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second squire works
100% if you don't already
hopefully, you can also go for pet damage, it has the vial the electric thing, and 2 meals croissant and wedding cake.
Yeah I have the vial at level 9.
what should i focuss
I really want to get my vials to level 13 but I am unsure about how hard that could be.
Rank xp
how much do you have?
24
Well it’s less than 30 lol
right ahaha
It really depends how quickly you get materials on es
I remember leveling vials with ES
Eventually youll be able to print 1b of most of them in one hour
I would say around 20 into rank exp and 4 into next crop chance
I don’t really think it’s worth activing ES for them
Just have stuff printing for them
Es is better early on, then when you get 1 bil an hour it is worse, until once again your es gets over 1 bil mats per hour
I could easily do vials that have to do with skilling.
I mean idk what his carry cap is but it’s probably hundreds of inventories
Just not worth the effort lol
GOTCHa
Just do those then
you don’t have the super op vials rn anyway
like tuttle
you still want evo chance but you should be able to get around rank 20-50 before you need to worry about new crops
It wouldn't be an issue to make ES dreadlo bags.
hey piloshopher
look at that tag
i got 5%
Thats sick, nice. Like the setup too
nothing requires these do they? safe to throw out?
i mean I think the second 2 are only obtained through quests so I wouldn't but no there is no real use
You can get the 2nd two from guild boxes randomly and maybe po orders
Oh really I only remember getting them from a quest, is that a different one or is it another source?
hey guys, for breeding, is lvl 5 the cap? can we go higher? is there a recommended level?
20 is the cap for shinies
You can go higher than 5
my bad didn't mention for shinies but you got me
is it recommended to hit 20?
Yeah probably you want to go big
5-7 is good at first. Once you get the lv100 breeding shiny rate upgrade, lamp and crop upgrades rolling then higher is more obtainable in a reasonable amount of time.
is there any way to get easy more pirat flag points in the rift
Hello philosopher
Hello
Turn off vman talent
dont have a vman xD
Git gud...
Then you need higher talents...
okay i will grind vor vman first
I mean you just need more talents for coins but good luck
If you manage to deal extra damage it counts towards tome. Also nice, do you have the star talent?
Are you talking bout the dr one
Its the star talent that gives dr per weekly boss beat
my hand hurts from merging sushi
Have you gotten a hat from the shop yet, the cheaper one?
You shouldn't be struggling that early
idk, I only bought the purple UI
If you can save up 125 trophies you can get the hat in a month...
sadly the good star talent doesnt seem to be soon
nah next week is these(I guess if you earn more then 115 in a week you are good)
because I never thought i'd beat it and get mroe points
Only for that week its just a small bonus, at 90 lvl you get 12% per boss for that week
aah thta's fine then
+3 libary from summoning, we're so back
why arent atom unlocks like specific
got the atom from minehead, and it gave me the ww one I didnt have
now I gotta go do ww to get the minehead atom
Its lava spaghetti code, it unlocks the next missing atom, happens with every unlock including the new one
welp I got it now :p
will minutes also progress?
why did my quest completed go from 219 to 203
Daily quests, did you do the picnic quest yesterday?
wait... picnic quest also resets the quest completed??
but wouldn't that be 211 though...?
what happened to the other 8
I think so might change if you complete the last one but not sure. Might have lost progress or desync, not sure🤷♂️
Go touch tome and cloud save and try again
Could be the jman-vman questline too. i don't think those count unless you check on a vman but idk 100%
small question , is there something that will keep the lab bonuses active even without people afking in them ?
arctis divinity in W5. it is the 2nd god you unlock
ah , now i get why doot is so wanted
Yes
thanks
numbers going up chat
I think i am creeping up on ~600s myself. haven't been CCing lately
that is mostly pre w7
your making me feel like im early game
trolled
this is early game kekw
O I ran out of yellow
Stupid glimbo
nah Im still end game just like neglecting every mechanic
i don't even have the next salt unlocked. Omni hates refinery
Have you surpassed 1k for red salts?
I may or may not have had the first page on auto refine to finish vials for like 3 weeks
Oh have you finished the vials, thats more impressive I just keep giving everything to glumbo
Closer
where should I use this with my vman?
LIterally all the time everywhere
Its just free gems
And candies
I mean using vman to farm giant kills is a problem
very slow to kill. you want like dk or bubo(dk might be better due to dr)
now wizard of the bacon enlightened me
This one has been troll
Giant prayer should be on every char all the time
There is no reason to ever turn that off
closer then me
You can even turn it on with WW and get crystal medallions
I mean if you run out of slots you can remove it
I havent been that try hard yet
Got it. Well now for the test reasons I'll do once with vman
Does it matter which mob 'Im killing
Just need to make sure if it spawns you can kill it
It does have more hp
Thats why phil was saying not on vman
what about the drop rates
I mean of the monsters, higher level mobs give better drops I assume
NOt ot my knowledge for giants
I mean vman's only 'splash' damage is a skill with a long cooldown it would be hard to farm this out unless really lucky or a lot of time
I will say this though
You really shouldnt be actively be playing vman unless your either A: doing a void run or B: leveling him higher than the other chars in a skill
You're right I just imagined, it's silly
anyone here have a tradeable doot btw? i wanna trade rift stalker for it
That sounds like a steal but sadly doot is very rare, you will have to try in pet trades
sent in there alr 🫡
huh i thought doot was very highly valued
I mean it is, its value has slightly diminished due to a lot of ways to link to gods, still very important
Doot is like 450 usd to guarantee and rift stalker is 35
But imo, sheepie is even better kekw
i had to buy some intermediate packs to get to rift stalker 😐
still worth the trade, there should be plenty of people willing to trade
Having all big bubbles at once is insane
People really want rift stalker too if you loook in that chat
People asking for it constantly
yea they do but they all wanna trade the sushi pet or smth
if your missing another pet something like a regular draw you might be able to get 2 not sure though
Getting a tradable doot is very rare
So its hard to find a trade for one
rift slug, the +25 skill levels is, now a days. over looked sleeper
wdym?
yea its pretty in demand im surprised
i traded one for a mallay
Phil is basically saying be ready to settle when you cant find a doot
I mean it used to be people willing to trade multiple, when I traded for deckhand people wanted me to give 3 exclusive pets
I will say it might take a few days doot is uncommon, still people should be willing to trade
ill keep a lookout
btw neonscale for valenslime + Biggole Mole worth? not sure on value of neonscale
what does valenslime give
yes. It only helps in w7 and gives a shape but its really nice.
15% total damage
Then no lol althought idr what biggole mole is
its a 20$ pack its seems underwhelming but it is still really nice(basically gives you a bonus you should only get every 10 lvls)
wait is are you trading for neon scale giving neon scale?
You gotta look for other exclusives imo
giving neon scale
OH no, sorry thought you were going to get it, yah not worth
had to buy neonscale pack to get through to rift stalker
With the pet mart previous collections are too easy if your buying packs with green gems
my chain was jello, neonscale, cryo, rift stalker
which pets are you missing?
hmm true ig if i can get doot for stalker i can save green gems
like in total? or just the ones i want rn?
I mean both(mainly the exclusives or things like doot or whallous)
but I am on the fence with vanillie
ah yea im missing lotta exclusives, and missing pretty much every fallen legacy pet even th ebasic tiers haha
no one puts H: giga frog
in pet trades
There are so many pets now its hard to remember them all
too real
get the extra shiny fish from tar fish shop
that upgrade is too good
I would say neon for hedghog, reindeer, santas helper, bomy mine, bubba, or glimbo would be worth. jelly might get a more normal exclusive like bunny or other similar things.
lmao, yes thnks
ok gotcha so neon = good exclusive pet, jelly = worse
hmm wb cryosnake lol
cryosnake for biggole mole? or worth more
it was in my way sadly
um you could maybe get a exclusive for it but it would be more difficult I will say.
GOtta mow one lawn so I imagine a lot of kids have it
i swear i see people treat doot like his the top 1 pet and only trades their doot for riptide
might be worth more or similar value
Its VERY good but its more rarity then that now
i remember my parents paying me 25 cents to mow the lawn haha
Doot is probably the second or third best pet still even with constant nerfs
25 cents.... my parents would never pay me kekw its more the neighors
o yea curious, in terms of just how powerful the pet is, which one better doot, riptide, glunko, riftstalker?
my friend got 2 exclusives for their cryosnake, it was squirrel and chippy
You diagree with me then that sheepie is better?
I would say in terms of power, rift -> glunko -> riptide -> doot
doot is way too overglazed lmao
yes only because I think I had to buy an extra bubble slot(could be imaging it though)
If we talking about buff only doot is legit the best
Finally stupid teal fish
You would think with my boosts I would get this stupid thing first try
the only thing im getting doot for is that juicy juicy all stat% from hole
There is a buyable bubble slot?
not at all, you get an extra 4 connections basically, technically 3 and 20% stat, 25% dr, technically save 1k gems and 50% golden ball gain
is that not how you get the 3rd slot or am I going crazy?
I guarantee my sheepie gets me more gains than my doot for the last 6 months
sheepie being uncommon for its bonus is wayyy op
bait for the newbie pack
All is relative , you will get a sheepie on the way either way
i fell for it cuz i didnt realize how common sheepie was and was cheap
Lets be honest though, sheepie is bad when you neglect alch
rift and riptide are not obtainable anymore right
And doot is ALWAYS good
Its fine as a pack its still good
luckily i check alch constantly
rift is, riptide was only once not anymore
need to make my sheepie worth
But lava is pumping the economy full of them(in the last 3 streams he has given out like 30-40)
rip tide will be for all the sheeple getting onto his twitch streams
with doot though, I'll be happy for the all stat% on the hole
Doots best feature is by far just having all gods at once
how's rift
Being able to get afk gains on random skills has been amazing for my progress when I got it
definitely know but man... i just want big numbers go up
in pet mart
would glunko be a good trade for riptide then
For sure
Lets just say the numbers be stacking(still can get around 12 more million str)
What are your reset points boosts looking like in roo phil?
Well I just finished my tar grind so im changing them in a sec but here
Can you reset in the middle of a run
I forgot lmao
I feel like I learned that at some point then never took advantage
you can reset whenever you want, I do tar till I hit 30 points and around 100 upgrades for the last one, and then go full shiny till hitting around 1 bil then blue fish gain till megafish
Question : is there a tactic for skull point in Rift or just kill it until done?
use dk or bubo, faster kill and respawn more skulls
Man imagine if I knew all these small little tricks early on
Could have been much further with how effiecient I could have been
Alright
I mean the effort for the gain in roo is barely worth it, the only reason I do it is for the ||accuracy||
I do bubo
I dont mean just roo
There is so many things ive learned later on that just arent intuitive
That applies to just about everything in idleon, the amount of times I repeat advice that I myself couldnt use is insane
if we ever got the ballot for them it should be possible to atleast get 2 I think I could maybe reach 23 if I used my time skips
SIlly phil, one cant use consumables
best 3 elixirs to push boss?
They belong in the storage where I can use them one day when I need them
I hate how much I agree with this
is this just nothinig?
Heart, green and show strikes
I mean damage boosting ones if you have it and the stamina helping 2
My setup
I was told not to use stamina potion but I am sus
glup I only have 3 slots
...and no heart yet
which ones do you have?
which trick 👀
up to the grand discovery one
tell me all
Theres a lot kekw
didnt realize how cheap the heart was
but too late now
Then run stam and green and shadow strike
kk
Use green when you get to boss room
you got it boss
also for the future, how do grand discoveries work? the wording is confusing
WEll you do on a run then you run ou tof stamina
I already got a reply but I wanna hear from philo too, is glunko a good offer to get rip tide
And it turns out the cake was a lie
I mean there is so much the vial one, the fact bosses are actually very weak and easily beaten, dont neglect your skills, only use exp and dk for construction, salts not on auto refine, explore all the maps, equipment doesnt really matter, the screenshots you see of endgamers probably arent really no need to worry, lab jail and divinity jail are easier it you wait till 2026 everything else is also easier so just dont play till then, plus a bunch of other stuff.
what's the vial one
I honestly dont know, Im a sheep so I just hope on the trends when I see them but would say if you watch lavas stream and do give aways probably not. would absolutely recommend you ask someone else though.
In actuality its just go to settings make auto clear the whole floor and when you clear that last item on the floor it has X chance to give you a grand discovery
have stacks of 1 and spam drop them for cauldron otherwise you waste around 2/3s of your attempts daily
basically the 'epic gamer moments' count as attempts even though they shouldnt
I also can't roll good for observations but I don't think there's a trick to that
You guys try hard and move a shap onto the daily spelunking pow before reset?
every time you destroy the last object in cave there is that chance to get a grand discovery. for every one you have multiply that value by 2 so it your chance is 1 in 10000 and you have 3 you would multiple 10000 by 2x 2x 2x so 80000
i see i see
used too, but the dysc is bad and now my reset is around 4 am for me
lunarheim boss is kinda buns I cant use this stuff
no like the bonues it gives, this is kinda useless
Ah
i cant use the meals
nothing i really need to super
only usable trophies i have are club member and dice
my turkey is stuck at 111 😭
wait why are you not going back and doing trophies and no way you dont have luckly lad yet
only use exp and dk for construction: i have all xp, but wdym only use dk? so only have dk on the cog map? why?
the vial one: whats the trick to spam dropping? i see osme people can do it without dragging
lab jail and divinity jail: if i can get doot im chillin on this right?
i cant take screenshots gulp
just know my gallery is full aside from og trophy
lmao
Because you want more room for exp cogs for more exp basically everything in construction is from dk or dks so the faster they level up the more you get. I mean having doot helps after lab and divinity jail does not prevent it, can shorten it I guess. The vial one if your on pc hold shift and click every stack of 1 over cauldron will spam drop.
forgot about this, was wondering why my day was going so good...
Just had a great opening hand you know its gonna fail when that happens
yah dont think I will ever get as lucky as that one time
This game sux
maybe if I sacrifice my T10 cogs to lava...
that one hit btw
ok ty
for vial, how many stacks of 1 should i make? or doesnt matter really just ue all attempts?
and construction, so i have dk on the board only for more xp% from cogs right? and everyone else is just making cogs?
for vial how every many attempts you have you want to quickly drop that many, and for construction yes
There is a 7th trimmed slot for construction
curious again
deckhand for doot worth? and wb hivemind for glunko?
thank god I finished sushi. I really hate doing it... When do you think next update will come?
deckhand for doot is hivemind for glunko not sure, could be hivemind is really good up to you really
you see to be missing around 47 tiers of sushi
how can one play this
you take 2 and combine...
🤮
I would recomend to combine till you run out of fire then do a freebie for money and buy as many upgrades as possible, then do a fire freebie combine and repeat, till either you have locked by reaserch level(then just keep combining) or give up
give up!
yah I feel you I dont even have 3 hours max
W
I would not say that just yet
But I should stop now, do like bravery or spelunking and lab again when I get more jewels, right?
If jewels are what you meant
2.1k total px?
no lab level... its a w6 jade upgrade
i hope i win
it normally goes up by 1x every 20 hours you can make it faster
is that a youtube comment?
beeg and numbahs
i got doot, so now i need divinity lvl 2 on all my chars and thats it for now?
you still want to unlock the gods, go for atleast 3 before pushing, but you can stop much sooner then others
the god that gives divinity pearls is so useless cause you get so many from events anyways
you still want them its needed in w7
wait what
can i do the thing where i sit in lab and it counts divinity xp
or i need to unlock god first, so need lvl 3 b4 i sit in lab
I think you need to have the god unlocked but might just be 2 levels, you can try this on a character and see if you earn divinity points/exp while in lab after getting a level
one of the most useless ones but still good to upgrade
o i can test super easily
so 1 lvl in lab = 1 divinity lvl then? or [y] xp in lab = [y] divinity xp
did not know about that
ok i lvled once in lab using pearls
still divinity lvl 1
well you can just see how much points you should get an hour(if 6 or more wait like 10 mins and check if you earned any if not you need to unlock the gods). since they are 2 different skills the exp are not related like that you could be earning thousands of lab exp but only 14 divinity exp
you need to be div lvl 2 to unlock doot perk for that character so level them up and afk in lab(pearls dont double dip ever)
ahhh icic
so just need to get lvl 2, then no need to worry abt unlocking gods with those peace offerings or wtever right
um im on my ES and i get 8 divinity xp per hr
this normal? feels a tad low
That im not sure I think you have to unlock the god but could be wrong you can test this by afking in lab after level 2 div. if you get nothing realated to divnity after claiming afk gains then you need to unlock them first
if you just unlocked the skill then its really good
im lvl 1 with 0 xp
wait 8 is good... wow divinity really sucks then
ill test this after i hit lvl 2 then
yah normally get 1 exp per hour base then increases by your style getting nearly 10 at the start is insane.
i cope that i can buy this with gems
does afk candy work on divinity? pearls, balloon?
I'm not sure, but make sure you level up gods that giv eextra divinity points. currency is sailing, gaming and regular gold
no
Also one thing you might've missed is that when you si ton altar you can choose different multipliers that unlock at higher divinity levels, 5 10 etc. they also give huge bonuses
wdym by sailing is currency
you can use divinity pearls in lab though
Gold from treasures
wow i thought afk candy worked on anything
just skips forward clock
ah icic
so i still would need to afk in div jail just for the points to like appease them or wtever then?
oh my god, lol. YES
theres bonuses that affects all characters that will definitely help you
damn
hmm does the afk in lab = divinity thing also give me div points or just the xp
pionts too
ah that makes it much better ok ty
you overthinking way too much lmao
listen man
i hate the jail
Golden Hampter Gummy Candy
no matter what you will eventually go back to divinity jail
This will give you chance to get sailing time when you claim any afk gains
even if you got all gods
That'll help you a lot in sailing and getting that gold to upgrade extra divinity points
good luck
remember you just unlocked them, not completed them
true
also the way biggole mole works: it grows future samples as well? so if im making 1k an hour now, and after 100 days i grow to 2k, then i resample at base rate of 5k, will i be making 10k or just 5k, which will grow again in 100 days
its stays at its current multi the only one that resets is the sailing one
ok thats what i thought nice
wording is bit ambiguous tho imo
how good are balloonfish and pufferblob bonuses?i dont got masterclass, and no w7 yet
also vanillie for koi worth? or bubba for koi?
fyi it depend on ur div style that u choose
wdym?
exactly what it mean. divinity has styles that give different thing, some give xp only. some give both if ur high lvl enough on div
oh ic
just started divinity, afking the normal way, getting points and xp tho? how do i switch style?
when ur on the altar, it should say style there
didnt see, ill check
@proven carbon moving here
wait.. theres discount in pet mart? idt ive seen
It rare but happen think at Xmas golem got 30% discount
o ic wym ok ty
i see style now
has lvl reqs
can someone tell me why do some bug nest seem like they already been attacked even though i have not visited them longer than 24 hours, hell even a week on fairies from clammies
but some bug nest can still be attacked for bonus like dust mole and all w2 nest
note that cloud saving did not work at all
vanillia for sure better if we just look at its bonus
getting mixed msgs
some guy said in long term bubba is way better
Fianlly, bum rush to W5 complete. Going to take a break and catch up on skillings
do you even know what gallery is
you start with low gold food bonus, but you can get over 20k, meaning vanillie diminishes over time. with gallery you can get multipliers to afk gains, droprate, and damage, so gallery multi is a multiplier to all of those multipliers
if you plan on getting all pets eventually anyway go for vanillie
how long until i start getting good at gallery? rn im pushing w4 and w5 at the same time, can get to w6 in 1-2-3 days prob
probably like 2 months
ty for advice
i already went with bubba cuz cuter
thats what i ment
w6 is so slow 😭
do you have dart trophy?
nope
or the 0.1% nametag from christmas event
nope
i do have the emerald nametag tho
i mean bro hes progressing w5 he mustve started way after christmas
hopefully is faster with the 2x portal god and the lab 2x portal buff
true lol
yah i started a week ago
see if you can get dart trophy on your way to w7, that will make gallery good as soon as you get there
but we got the christmas candles for valentines too
i think its lowkey doable for me i just never play the minigame
i ran into dmg issue for the first time in like late w5 where i just didnt have enough dmg for multikill so it made things quite slow
hmm ok then i might need to take 3 days and craft some gear
ill see how it goes
just be prepared w6 will take so much longer than the other worlds and then w7 after probably even more
well sorry i mightve trolled you, bubba is definitely really good just not for a bit
ive been playing for 4 weeks now i think? and like 2 of those are spent in w6
its all good
lwky if i had vanillie i prob would be too lazy to swap out golden foods and such
just using potions on everyone
damn
is it cuz need dmg req? or portals just big number
you wont really be able to have gold food online for a bit but itll be earlier than gallery
both
my current portal needs like 8mil kills
and i have only 250% multikill on the map
the last one is like 100 or 150m
yea its gonna be tough
nah ES is pretty bad
your portal will probably scale too high and you won't be able to kill things
DK and bubo are good
you have to push with 2 because of spirit locks, a new thing where you have to open the portal with 3 characters to enter the next map
mmm ic
you only have to actually push with 2 because when you end a vman speedrun it'll automatically open one for you
💀
ill use dk then
if you can't active all the time replace dk or bubo with db
since he gets highest kph
but otherwise just swap between dk and bubo to get them both through
whats db again
deathbringer, blood berserker masterclass
like highest while afk right
gotcha, ty
it's because he has an extra talent that gives kill per kill that other classes don't have
and respawn talents like dk and bubo have don't do anything afk
ic
is it easy to get masterclass almost instantly once i hit w6?
quest for bubo -> AC might be harder to get if you don't have enough dmg, but the other two you can maybe get within a couple days
what monster samples do you do guys do other than refinery? stuff for alch bubble and vials?
what does this alert mean?
yeah bubbles and vials mostly, eventually youll want to sample for greenstacks too but thats later on
Damn, is it normal my progression has stalled so damn hard in W4? I reached those weird octopuses with my DK and... Its taking a while
Ye was the same for me portals are in the 100ks
It was going smoothly, multi killing a few mobs. and then I came to the newer locations and... Yeah
Survivability isn't the issue really, just the fact it needs such an absurd amount and I'm thinking I'm doing something wrong
U wanna tell me that there will be fishing quest in Rift ?
no lol
What is rift even for?
Good bonuses from there
I not far but i have unlocked this one for example
Damn, that's a lot of grinding
Well ye but they say its worth it
anyone know the best lure/line for equinox fish?
from psycho sheet
thanks again collin, do you have a link for that, the sample sheet i'm using is out of date
cheers
ohh so many things
nice wee upgrade
getting higher flies print so hard compared to fishing even when i did the alchemy that increases skilling power
like, look
yea I suppose the event food for fishing helps a lot
there has to be a event food for catching
we can't pearl or bloon breeding right?
yed
been trying to get level 40 breeding for shinys but its taking agessssss
NEW SPICE MEANS NEW MEALS
just let your most neglected characters afk there instead
its just 16 hours man
i love lava and his minibosses (literally)
do you usually save your candies or spend daily
i only use them when i have to
like when
getting skilling xp enough to be 1 level away to be the same level as vman
only did it on dk though
and trying to make them go through portals faster where the bug nest and trees are
i also use it to grind splicing for desperation
Fishing for equinox ? Come to Rift XD
he's fishing the clouds
theres a new fish called cloudfish
you need it to to craft the world 8 gem
and it will give you access to royal guardian early
Cloud fish? Sound like one of terraria fish xd
when does the current pack in the shop usually rotate? is it weekly?
How do I acquire the skill needed to place down Shrines?
Ice cream guy gives u talent when quest is complited ( mean town npc )
Hey, I need a new version of Spice Farming. Does anyone have a good one to build?
do spices not produced if your offline? @peak lagoon
its produced but don t claim it automatically
nah someone already told me that its a bug where sometimes spices Dont produce when offline but, only AFTER you completed a spice territory battle
it fixed itself once i checked breeding again
nice to know I had the feeling that it never really worked properly.
didn't even had to use cooking ladle lmao
Well max lvl is higher then this yes? ( Mean there are bonuses that increase that )
correct. Im at 113 on all plates and needing to get more speed
