#midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ
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leave it to idleon players to not read
its more likely I read it back in january/feburary and I just dont remember but I see your point
yah but its still funny too say no matter how untrue it is
I think your missing something
im missing double income for a couple weeks lmao
im sure the missed out on currency I could have gotten is what makes the difference here
hmm not sure why it doesnt work. The only advice I can give is for now try to go up and towards the right you want to get as many magnifying glasses/eye things to use on observations as possible, try to reach for L11 and O8 which is 3 to the right of L8
Also this thing sucks I think I earn like 500 per upgrade
W3 town
i cant find it
climb the rope its the top left
Even if you die if you click revie at town it just respawns you there you can play around with it. if you look at the cards it shows how much damage they do and you can base it off that(it is the base so they scale upward after each kill)
https://idleontoolbox.com?profile=ilyassdira15
I don't have to settle to strengthen my account
Do I really need to wait a year until this comes back? 
Yeah 
Gem shop 
ive only been playing 3 weeks so I didnt have the spices yet
RIIIP the 3 purple combo looks so good for me
when placing nature traps with vman, do I use maestro fusion or not
Yes. The -effy doesn't affect trapping xp
okay ty
alchemy, vials, equipment, clickers, everything w4, po boxes, and im sure more
Check that
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1at-y9t5ohYky33nOLoSxHYeyRX-3T91paj-nTSHrB3c/htmlview#gid=1826222324
there should be a setup to minmax exp
Just got home from work. Time to get some gains and hit the sheets.
I don't need to minmax it that much I just need to get to trapping 100
thanks anyways
New gen 
I will gen you
Do minmax you'll be there quicker.
Nope.
chat is he lying
mpreg
That can get you a level until like 120, when the cost increases past the tens of billion
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should've done it sooner tbh but I still need to crack worship 150 on ac so like w/e
Who up cracking their TD.
me in my deathbed trying to do td
me once I finish getting level 10 for the first few sushi
@peak lagoon Btw I got badumdum today.
In breeding.
I just need 2 years to catch up with you watch out.
If it makes you feel better I dont think I know the name of most if not all of them...
Oh thats the ability, was so lost trying to find the pet named badumdum
you going for those meals I see
Reckon it's about time ๐
are you missing prisma and vman?
Just prisma.
Oh once you get vman he can help a lot(as long as your bb can get billions of kills...)
still getting there
I have Vman lmfao I just need to unlock all meals that I can.
So how can I strengthen my account? I just need to develop and focus on these.
I have like 28 meals.
I mean you are missing most things, but yah you can focus on them for now.
Which one is the most important so I can focus on it, or should I focus on them equally, or is there one that's stronger than all of them and I need to focus on it?
wait whats your farthest territory?
I mean you can just check the clickers periodically, vials are once a day besides when you upgrade them, you dont have bubo so alch will be slow, but yes. try reaching lab and getting new class advancements in w4
I'm a World IV class rank fighter and I've set all my characters to afk, the lab.
I see, your really close to being able to finish the territories like 2 more pets...(you should be able to get the first 35ish meals still)
nah, have you reached hole?
I mean its better then neglecting it. Hole has a lot of good stuff
I thought about resetting my opals.
Are they focused on explorer right now?(and how many caverns do you have)
7 caverns. 14 explorer, 7 on engineer, 4 on bonuses and 3 on measure.
Planning on getting 20 on explorer.
What bonuses do you have for the bunuses guy, and what is the last schematic you have and unlocked?
Gimme a sec.
take your time trying to see where you are to help give better advice
This would be about it.
Don't mind the uber upgrade not being upgraded I am expanding all bars to their maximum because idk if that makes it any better when you actually do get the schematic.
Ok I would recommend doing a bonuses reset first. If your bars are max and cant expand just get it there is no difference only difference is how many times you have expanded. I would recommend trying dog den on lowest settings on all 4 classes for some extra bucket fill. The bonuses you reset should go 4 into content creater the schematic exp one, one into the enhance bonus, you can have 2 for god, then rest in every 10th opal invested.
I assume I reset bonuses by using the lamp.
Then put all on your explorer till lvl 10. You are doing the skilling nodes for opals(stop when the time required is more then 10-20 hours) right?
Sadly no I am not doing the motherlode.
how does cooking level and cooking efficiency work inter charachters? what does it effect
For lamp I would say to try and go for opals if they are within a week otherwise try for new wish till you hit infinite resources.
What is infinite resources. Like infinite resources for schematics?
cooing eff helps with cooking exp and ladle gain. cooking levels are for rift, total skill level count, and star talent
No its the name of a wish that boost cavern resources, its cheap and good early on
if you chose to use those ladles yes
thanks mate
Have you done dog den, bravery, bell, or catching node?
Well I'll have to wait on some wishes for all of this to snowball.
np
Haven't done but 80h in bravery and I did do the dog den and bell.
I mean this isn't horrible. It's just me prioritizing everything else. But the hole.
Ok do you have all the improvement methods, and know to only ring the bell if its doable within 2 hours?
Just realised i can farm w5 mobs in w4 through villager
I would say to invest up to 1 coin before what you have so if you have if you have gold invest until it costs silver(dont know the names of the other coins but you should get this)
yes the improvement methods
you dont need to worry too much about bell clean right now.
Ok once you unlock the next 2 improvement methods then go to ping and just leave it there for a while. you do the music every now and then right?
so this is 10 levels accoutnwide , I should level up everyone, right?
Does doot allow u to have no players stuck in the divinity thing?
10 levels of kitchen upgrades.
You have to get them to divinity level 2 for it to work.
you always want to level up your kitchens due to the jewel but level up every kitchen(that is what is based off of)
no, sadly it does not help much before divinity
Ok I'm missing out on free opals here fr.
whats your gains per hour?
Full efficiency?
Ok ic so one u lvl up the pkayer divinity lvl to 2 then no need to put players in the jail?
On DK? Idk lemme see.
I got w4 like yday but realized i can get to w5 through villager thingy, so in theory i could start gaming and divinity plus others
um no, you still need to unlock each god, basically the divinity jail still exists but you just gain all the bonuses while everyone else does it just to unlock the option to chose
no if you click afk info you can see how much ore you get an hour
Ohhh ok nvm
Wait then why is doot so good? Just cuz i assume the bonuses r cracked?
Cuz even with doot, to lvl divinities i still need jail time right
not sure I guess you could not completely understanding how that works. If you can put people in divinity do that till the goat god then put everyone in lab until the 2x kills otherwise if you cant put everyone in lab to 2x kills then push to w5
When u mine this stuff r the ores u get useful for crafts and such
Now I am even more confused because my DK got another 200m mining efficiency from somewhere. Wtf.
In the past we could only equip one, doot has all once you unlock them. You can get like 5 now(if you have doot you get compensation like 50% more gold ball gain, 20% more stats, or 25% dr)
@peak lagoon
Im jealous you have the hat, but yah you should push that, you can only get 5 a day but should be able to get to atleast 12 on that
Close to a breakpoint aswell.
Yea in codex theres a tp to villagers button
Then you to to villagers, and press map and u can get into w5 without pushing w4 fully
Ok ty for info
If i unlock goat god on one char, its account wide unlocked?
That ain't my character dude lmao.
I do have the hat still.
Huh ic so everyone can have 5 gods active
How many gods r there
yah gods are account wide kinda like sailing chance but your characters need to be there to earn the stuff to get them(chance unlock)
10 but only 9 give bonuses right now
Stupid question: I got the 1000 arcane fragment's for the AC, used them, but no matter how much time i spend offline idle, none of the arcane rocks generate. Did i miss something?
you only get master class items while afk fighting and I think its like 1 every hour or 2

okay! thank you!
U think i should put my squire to fully push w4 and lvl, or mine motherlode, or lab jail? Or divinity jail
Which first
Ye i can get to it through the codex villager teleport
you cant reach motherlode right now, I would say just, try and do lab jail with everyone but your pusher, try to get him to progress the maps, once he unlocks next class switch and do the shaman. after they both have their classes push to w5 and switch to divinity jail should take around 2 weeks
does w7 not have merit shop
Its a time sink so it will take a while for a return on investment(ment to be an infinite content but that was given up quickly...)
Any useful pets shorten lab and divinity jail times? I thought doot did but u still need jail time apparently
Theres a crystal mole I think, and anything giving skill exp
Though vault will be huge, if you invest into it(use the mini game shop in w1 if too expensive either way you should still do it)
Do we know eta when next event is? Heard its soon
I mean you can get it in the pet mart for like 1.5k gems
Wdym vault
@peak lagoon I will heed your advice and leave my DK to mine the lode until i get my explorer to 20 opals invested or higher.
I gambled all my green gems in legacy im broke rn
It may be either next week or the following due to anniversary
If it comes back to pet market tell me and I can get one for you
Will be much appreciated, ill keep a lookout but ill prob forget haha
yah I would change your bonuses first and then when you have more then 20 opals reset them into explorer you can change it if it slows down around lvl 10 by then you should have more to work with(dont forgot to work on the other stuff)
you might be able to get one in trade discussions or pet trades๐คทโโ๏ธ
My DK will ahniliate the lode by the time I wake up so yeah I expect 5-6 opals from it minimum.
Worth trade to trade potluck for one?
Unless the difficulty curve is super high for it that is.
Oh let me warn you, they are cleared per lode, so after clearing one the rest of the gains will disappear so it will not work(this happens because lava doesnt want us to cheat it due to the scaling curve)
not even slightly tbh
you could might be able to trade a 20 dollar pet or better with pot luck if lucky
Wait, so that means when I mine a lode. Everything else goes to trash?
And then it restarts mining the next one.
I mean just the ore, so When I clear mine I sometimes get like a few extra billion so all that is trashed and is no used for the next lode
Santa snake, chippy, or reindeer best?
Ah that sucks ass. So is 8-9h too much to afk on it?
idk if anyone is trading santa snake but its not that good, would say reindeer
I mean its just some waste up to you how much you baby it, I usually end up lossing around 1-2 hours because it always happens to finish over night for me when I was doing it
Eh I can live with that.
I assume from what you said that it gets worse the more afk you are. So 8h (while I sleep peacefully) will probably not result in a huge net loss.
dr -> dmg -> class exp -> coins (dr gives bonus to coins so direct coin gain is mid highest source is lab bonus for kills, there are so many sources of class exp so it doesnt need to be focused, you will always need damage, dr is never enough)
Didnt know dr affected coins but ig it makes sense
from your screenshot it should take you around 5 mins afk for that layer so 8 hours will be around 8 hours of loss... next lode will need more eff so lower gain(only increases when you complete that lode)
Yikes.
So I shouldn't leave it afk. This means I need to baby it a lot more early on.
Like this is without my setup for w7 could 20-70x this amount if I set everything up
That would have been catastrophic if I didn't know.
yah you can always just have it do something else and tomorrow do it
just so your aware you can only do a total of 5 destroyed nodes a day
Ic
Yea i tried the wolves thing in the whole and realized dmg is actually important now
Oh and ig cuz multikill dmg leads to dr right
No, Multikill increase resource gain for afk and a few other things like increase kills.
But if u get more resources dont u get more coins/rare drops with multikill? So like having more dr?
Like to give you an example here is my gmush kills per hour(with no multikill I would only earn around 171 mil per hour because 128 /747.17)
I guess indirectly but on your panel it will not increase, also does not effect active kills
Ah ic
Anyone know why I counted out 75 coins dropped and quest didnt finish?
Ok i got offer, potluck for chippy good?
Also I completely forgot that destroying motherlode layers gives me skill exp and efficiency. Gotta really push that so I get even more efficiency by the time I reprint.
Also, first trimmed slot. Sponsored by atoms.
Anyone who wants the achievement, come to w4 town
Yes
And this is for you @peak lagoon, atleast I gotchu somewhere gamewise.
World?
Hmm ic so with multikill afk, u dont get more coins
Im missing 2 of those...
You will get more coins for extra multi but does not work active
I'm actually making atoms way more reliably now. Funny.
Might be able to max hydrogen soooooonish enough.
It is printer output week in the w2 ballot so that is probably helping atoms
Welp. By the time it ends I'll have higher prints anyways.
I wouldn't mind a free doot.
da mini boss gng
I think the only thing players still struggle with is w2 dugeons due to us being worse then bots
. And descync.
Desync is the worst issue this game has istg.
mmmm
Hello, is it worth it to activate Midas's Touch, the prayer, for my divine knight to farm up statues and golden food?
@peak lagoon you have doot?
Yes, but I'd only equip if you're oneshotting mobs and crystals with the prayer active
Thank you, yes Im at world 7 but need to farm world 2 and 3 mobs
I do but it was a giveaway so its not tradeable sadly
Im w4 havent touched the dungeons thingy like doot boss
Shld i look into that? Or keep doing lab and push
Dk if it gives good stuff
yah I have all pets... Im a whale of sorts. Though it does not help that im barely keeping myself in endgame or as I like to think the wall you need to surpass to be endgame.
I mean doing your mini bosses are important for gems(buy the stuff for the w2 ones but save for later. w1, w3, and w4 can be done and will help with candy gems, and other nice drops )
Why do the w2 one later?
The other ones are on a counter so max out after like 2 weeks, while w2 ones need to be crafted from the bags and eye thing from shop near w1 boss(you want to do the other ones to help with drops and kills for death note, later in w6 you unlock something that helps boss your kills by a lot once you have them you do you w2 ones to earn a lot of bonus kills)
I dont really keep up with them but I can get around 600 kills per mini boss kill
I removed sizzling skull. do you think it's a good idea?
it slows down poison and poison is the one that hits everywhere I think
That should help, your normal attacks do that anyway
who can help me give me a player rating with ur name starting with s and p
which atom should i be maxing first?
I mean you slowly upgrade them, I would try unlocking most of them then focus on upgrading the important ones like construction speed, meal cooking speed, damage/cheapener, and the others slowly
Do you get all set bonuses for armor even if you don't have it equipped?
there's an NPC in W3 town, bottom left. It's unlocked after 30 days or you can pay like 3000 gems iirc to unlock it now. If it's unlocked, yes
i hope lava gives me 1 blue ball so i can super the gold ball upgrade
3 ATTEMPTS AND 2 LINEUP SWITCH 5TH SLOT UNLOCKED
Have you considered?
i didn't actually need to change the lineup i just needed to time the ability
are you on a tv?
No
im catching up
Slightly better
Will say this is huge I have 1 in 299 chance now and it feels amazing
Havent really pushed highest grade in a bit
got to this though so should be getting a nice bump soon
how are yall sending images it wont let me
!image
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yah im also hitting the end not sure how far im going to go though
I think this is where I stop, might come back when I get another level or two
It's as thought you kept all the sushi up there but they started sinking toward the bottom
well I had them in columns but I needed to move them for the upgrade sadly, might change the shape not sure though
y is your income so low
Hi Wizard
Hello
So if i have two es i want to know how does emperor wormhole count
really? I made it so its focused on money too... I guess I need to go re upgrade all the upgrades still sitting on around 2 bil cost for most things
Wormhole emperor uses the bonus of the talent that has most levels. In counting wormhole kills both ES contribute to the same number of total kills
Does it apply with dk and sb too ? I mean count like es too ?
I brought it up to 200T how far is it still low?
I lied, your higher research has allowed you to make a lot more bucks
I see I was trying to see what I was doing wrong... if it makes you feel better the wind upgrade can basically bring you all the way to atleast 40 but it just takes so long. I think I can get around 2 t17 every 5 mins...
Well this is where I stop for today, like 3 hours ago I thought this was fun and could easily entertain me for the next week or longer, now... it was a very large update is all I will say
You dont like inventory management?
The fact I only have 2 non neglected characters, my storage is constantly full and all my characters have crop filling their inventory should say enough.
You could never play oldge resident evil
Not in this channel at least. You'd have to go a bit down to #off-topic-chat
kekw
well one more spel run then im heading to bed, good luck and have fun with that mess. I dont think I was born when the first one came out
Morning philosopher
Can you say something philosophery
And before you ask it's morning for me
give it like an hour. Ummm in this game we constantly push ourselves to do the work now so we can be lazy later, but the later never comes...
I guess good moring for you then
Hmm it's quite deep that I don't understand it

I COULDN'T SCREENSHOT OF ME GETTING BACK TO BACK 50% GAMBLE
You mean you succeed 50%?
where can i find guide for breeding territory fight?
somewhat new to w4, cant afford chips, normal?
Any point to going further than 200?
Flex 
what does the all for kill bubble do
Makes skills give more afk gains than they normally do
all skills? or just active ones
Attacking skills afaik
anyone has a good pet setup for unlocking spices?
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
The guide sheet
Yo anyone down to do king doot? Ive never done it before
after killing doot so many times, i got my first 4 hour candy drop lmao
I'm currently at the second to last map of w4 (jellyfish) and I need 250k kills to unlock the portal, but i only have 4k kills per hour, is there any way to speed it up so it doesn't take 60+ hours? I currently have 49% accuracy with around 10-11mil damage per hit (divine knight lvl 193)
what pets should i use for pristale lake? is there a website i can use to know what to use for battles
use card
wisdom or strength?
accuracy
so wis for warriors
also sand castle and nep card gives acc%
sand giant and wood mushroom
yea got full efaunt except head and chizoar blankie (upgraded)
complete all tools and gear bring them tom your mage account use your best stone upgrade for more wis so higher accuracy
also use chaotic pendant
kk ill do that
is your armor smithy in w3 unlock
yea
so switch to amarock set
can someone recommend me Breeding lineup to beat the last 3 spice stages ? please
I have everything unlocked.
cause for defense and accuracy so u not die easily and use pots strenght and health from w4 then rest is strenght pot from lower world
I do have 100% survivability already so do i need health pots?
yes cause i forgot their is thing dk health help with damage
sorry for my english not my native launage
okay
dont forgot about the chaotic necklase amarock necklace very helpful
split the upgrade for strenght and wis use mage account for wis upgrade on your armor
ye
also complete all tool coper is fine use wis on them
it will eventualy stack together amarock is good for ealy game ist carried me until w6 only been playing 1 month
!accuracy
i dint know their is a guide like that lol
whats the "frostbite tundra" with 30% accuracy
i think its max
well ty for help
gee. you need some work with accuracy since they are so easy to come by, I'd do 20-30 levels of shaqcuracy for your world and 2 accuracy% card aka wood mushroom and the last w3 mob which you will replace later
also don't do the po boxes for accuracy because of how little it gives you accuracy
also at some point, cooking will be your friend in accuracy since it gives ALOT of accuracy
well i got accuracy to 100% but it's still 4.7k per hour
heres a old image of mine where before i upgraded the accuracy meal and after
more than double???
damn i never paid attention to cooking
takes a while to get the spices needed to unlock that accuracy meal
Mmm, meal
for multikill you need more damageright?
can't believe this was 2 weeks ago
Nice upgrade
Where does glaciaxus spawn at
w3 dungeon boss
Nice
work on dem rings
Anyone have a ss of what my team should be for pushing rounds
For breeding?
!guide first link, pets on the buttom
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
awww! they all sunshine and rainbows!... too bad they don't know whats coming
Anyone have a build for getting beefy for real prayer
check the link 2 messages up
can i speed uplab with balloon or something?
Need divinity pearls or what ever theyre called
well, they work only for level 50 and below
Yup
so after that, there's another way to get lab xp
it's called; afking in lab โจ
feel like making a vaultless account when im bored
do i dk for gold food on crystals or do i do that on arena
I feel you, my characters are prisoners to lab and rift atm
hopefully w5 will make lab less painfull xD
ok so uhh i realized that you can't obtain autoloot for free anymore on new players
4.99$ for a vaultless account...
oh rip
so i can't do this quest because its vaultless..
i could switch to just ironman where i cannot trade with other players and no bonuses
i mean.. would 25 vault impact you that much?
wtf 100 times for real? thought it was a joke
that's a lot of keys
What does this mean?
you can complete the quest, nothing is stopping you
I don't enjoy how some things work around here 
I donโt understand whatโs a vaultless account
uhh..sounds self explanatory, no vault upgrades
Oh bruh ok Iโm slow sorry, but like why would you not upgrade the vault stuff
self imposed challenge
"fun"
its stupid honestly, if youre gonna do a self imposed challenge at least do a hard one.
Lmao
like? I want to know whatโs considered hard
vman only account?
tbf there isnt really a "hard" way to play
1 character or vman only i suppose does come to mind
Itโs crazy to play with 10 Vman lol
albeit 1 character isnt doable past w6
who knows, when the master class for it comes out, they may have been playing 4d chess all along
+29 billion if i was on 6 or 8 trillion damage think about it!!!!
I need some wisdom, I actually late W3 struggling to kill the boss. I afk for 2 years, my account got crazy xp and I killed stuff until early W6 now
Buffs all beginners, and multiplies the effect of luck on damage and skill by a crazy percentage
you could try one of the account review tools, shows you were you are lacking and what your expected progress should be
I should kill mini bosses from W3 to W5 every week right?
there's a quest to kill the w4 miniboss 5 times, make sure to pick that up first
Are quests important? I only do quests on my second character which is mg DK, main pusher
ahhh yes, the tool for all non steam account
yeah my other characters only complete quests if they require little to no effort
most quest givers will have a unique stamp that worth picking up
the piggies
and some have inventory bags
oh god I gotta do quests for 9 other chars
funny enough I play on steam and ios, I can switch better now with the good update
the quests that have a stackable drop are worth keeping open on a couple characters so you can farm the item for green stacks
What does a green stack do?
Wait a sec, is there something wrong with playing on steam? D:
no idea, I thought steam is the main way to play
not playing on steam, using a steam account
a couple of things care about them like a bonus in lab and requirement in equinox, probably some other stuff later on also
Steam only achievements are cool
Equinox charges overtime right?
Ok great itโs probably max and super inefficient
i still need to unlock equinox! completely forgot of that
My tower defense and salts are lacking so much
W6 and still no Void tower
Imagine me, W6 and still no tab 4 in crafting lol
what does it mean the salt upgrade in w3 merit shop?
Is related to the rank up thing I think
where everytime you rank up one of your salts it produces more but it cost more to produce
and if not, idk
finally unlocked new set
nice!
if it does this, i think i'll go for mob respawn first
before the upgrade the cost of salt is 2x component cost, after the upgrade it is 2x power per cycle
each upgrade affects the next salt
i just got equinox mirror from my first kill
huge
niiicee!
Nice.
How do I go from 36k acc to 75k as easy as possible? 
Is there a guide for Vman, just got it
uuuuh, ok that's not how idleon players play, reading isn't good 
ok I'll try for the sake of my acc
Prop easiest way is to get acc is armor upgrade, owl and amarok set
Are you using the upgrade stone that gives you main stat and craft them using the char that has your acc stat as main stat? (Need acc on warrior: go to wizard use the upgrade stones W4 onwards on your warriors armour -> instant 2 gorrillion acc on warrior due to lots of wisdom)
Heh gorrillion, first time hearing that big number
1% FIRST TRY WTF
the what XD
You have some insane luck...
Man if i would be that lucky i would have 6 gods now xd
this is after i did a 50% first try back to back on omniphau and purrmep
im fucking insane!!!!!!
thank god nobisect felt bad after failing 50% 3 times in a row
it blessed me with an insane luck
That is crazy. Do you have the bubble unlocked for some free attempts?
no
The upgrade stones you can buy from town shops (only W4 onwards give main stat though)
i had to wait like 4 and then a week for the 2 other gods and only 6 hours for next one
Oooh yeah, "reading" again. Forgot to do that when I bought them lol
It's the easiest way to get your acc stat imo
Makes amorak armour pretty nasty cause it has 5 slots
reprints
should i change traps to a lower time?
Holy %% the upgrade stones from w6 have +10 main stat and the armor i'm trying to get has also 5 slots so 200 points of agi fro the acc is nasty
How should I spend my first couple of skill points on vman?
!talents
Having issues understanding how to best use your talents? This guide should be able to break things down. Use the tabs at the top to navigate to whichever class you're currently struggling with and it should become much less overwhelming.
Just select vman at the buttom
i just realized i could have gotten a doot with that luck...
well, from 36k to 60k not so bad I'll leave it here for now
2 min claims are the best for splicing and forge smelting ores on SB right?
you can also 2 minute claim WW
I would if I had WW.
Also on the bright side I almost have enough nullo salts to make my first troll piece.
Yeah. Just one piece. I'm that poor.
And kattlekruk set is so cheap. Man the difference is outrageous.
im honestly thinking going to kattlekruk instead of troll
looks cool and you get trophy on top
-# if you got the smithy unlocked don't forget to do each sets
doesn't stop me from destroying the recipe and make it so it requires only bean slices
Yeah that will def happen.
Time to push a couple of shiny mobs really quick.
1.5m kph on gmush should help me out on some quick claims.
To be honest I'm just gonna push everyone to kruk sets then when I'm a bit more ablebodied I'll just finish smithy.
Btw what are next chips in rotation?
its really a pain when u Crafting troll set =)) if u f2p
I kinda disagree on that. Only real painful resource to get for it are the salts.
Which if you can upkeep your refinery are not much of a pain truth be told.
yes that the pain bro , u need to wait like a month if u are low refinery lvl
I get around 200 salts daily. Which is solid progress and I plan to rank it up so it goes even faster. I estimate I could push those sets out by end of next month.
And a month is honestly a good timetable.
=)) nah that too long . after geting the troll set u can up 2 tier set in a row in 2 3 day
This is why I disagree. Because I don't rush worlds and this is why I accept that timespan.
btw . i recommend u to get God shard bar many as u can first , u will need around 250k . that really long for getting 250k
jail time
I have Godshard printing so that won't take as long.
no no bro . you will need Bar , not Ore
Chat, is the rift something that should be maintained/ progressed 24/7 or can I keep ignoring it til later? I'm tempted to atleast push for skill mastery but I doubt I'll even have lv150 for all the skills available to me
I can make bars equally easy aswell.
Do it later when it's easier.
did u try putting 1 god shard bar in ?
bro 1k and 250k is a long way
How do you define easier? I just now reached w6, almost done with lustre set if that's any context for you
Easier as in being able to complete the tasks given within a hour. Atleast that is how it was for me.
lustre bar is super fast , but not with the God shard , u need to try to put in and wait the resource
Nothing is hard when you focus on it.
well good luck to you , 1day /1k =))
i just recommend what you need to do to save time not to be jailed , up to you my friend
definitely a lot faster than 1k per day if u just use ur sb
actually ig windwalker also works
I really doubt godshard bars are such a grind lol.
yeah but my ww busy with dust =))
My sb is ahniliating every bar so far with 2min claims.
I should make 250k godshard bars just to prove you wrong. Wish I haven't had better priorities atm xD.
sure , tag me in a week if u can make 250k =))
So I'll start from tommorow. 31st. I'll tag you on Tuesday, 7th and let you know how it went.
sure buddy always be here
In the meanwhile I'll bulid a buffer of ores so it can flow continiously.
250k gshard bars? Light work smh
Is it normal to reach w3 with highest gear being anobuis gear?
if u manage to turn on ur computer 24/7 , that ez
Low-key think it takes like 2 min
really ?
i was still running amarok when i got to w4 ๐ญ
pretty much
Got my first shiny pets 
he just reaching w4-w5 . he cant do that =))
It'll be a good challenge to see where I stand. Even if I don't win the challenge given it'll show me how far can I push it.
Just need conjuror and gshard bars are free
And W5 barrels.
Whats world 3 boss stats?
Is getting all tower building slots worth it? I have 2400 spare gems and basically everything I need from gems
Oh okay should be able to one shot it when i get there
Did you get ancient golem?
Ancient golem?
Any tips on maxing out shinies?
between those 4 merit, which one most worth that I can full it first?
Do printer size.
why i cant start battle when the effect is up ? wierd . My arena Spirit is On rn
If you pressed the ability after doing a battle it won't work.
last month i still used normally hmm. and its no point when u use spirit arena and get in the battle , that useless anyway
try getting f200 ...
I'm afraid I didn't understand what you meant exactly.
What's the best way to max out shiny pets in breeding?
more shiny of the same pet bonus will up faster obviously
but it's mainly just active on WW with vman's enhancement for whale talent
It's better to max out one at a time
to each their own. I have one different shiny pet slot on my yard ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Can 4 other people come W4 town and /dance for achievement in pizza 1?
new updates, new visual bugs
Anyone with the name P for the quest?
Have to activate the abillity BEFORE you start so you can get more tries (+dmg)
Nvm, it's a companion that gives 10x dmg
Ancient golems gone gone rn 
5m build rate with this set up....
Only can get thru trades (untill lava decides to roll him out again. That is if golem will be rolled out again anyways )
Maxing out as in leveling or getting them?
Moar player exp rah 
?
does this make deathbringer elim challenge even harder on mashed potatoes
I mean it might, but db has a big kaboom entire map skill
I need to book my poor db
999% when 
are there any star skills up to world 3 that will help me in mining?
The first 2 dungoen ones iirc
does it also combust mobs outside of your camera?
And the W5 one from merits if you're w5
Should combust all afaik
oh no, I still havent touched dungeons I might need help
Just wait till happy hour and you're getting carries lmao
I tried last time and I couldnt find groups at all
Wierd you should usually find a group like almost instantly 
lvl 700 combustion imagine.. if its possible
I had troubles the whole happy hour
Yes, dungeon gives like 4 useful skill if I remember right
Gotta farm meowmeres then 
There is a quest related star ltent that gives effeciency
The worm queen one ye
is this normal
But al those are mostly from w3/4 I think
get your refinery speed upgraded
I think. Just get more refinery speed and it'll be faster (also use the squire skill and leftover killroy bones if you bought the 500 arcade bolls)
well theres 2 abilities really, ones a kaboom and then bear paw
And kaboomed bear paw (the fire upgrade)
its possible but i need a teeny bit more talent levels on combustion
I don't have enough yellow salt for the saltlick yet but it's on lvl 44. The stamp is too expensive for me and the only thing I can do is put 60k red salts on vial which I think wouldn't do much ๐ญ
I ran out of books -_-
if i use the squire skill correctly it will shave off 3 days for me. i'm just asking if 1 month is normal for rank 15
if your looking for refinery speed I would search it on insight
Totally need more speed
ight thanks. imma farm money and mats for speed
can I leave multiple people afk at bravery statue for afk time to stack?
Does this mean I have to wait 25 more days or 25 days from the creation of my account?...
25 more I imagine
Easy to check after daily reset
Man I forgot how bad db respawn skill was
whats a good set up for late game spices
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
Click ont the google spreadcheek and look at the right side of the pets section
Spreadcheek ๐คค
That pin for breeding is a bit outdated with recent updates
Hot air, as the only person that does anything, should get on that
the one that looks like toilet paper
Is it though I havent paroused it
i just realise its after asking lol
That sheet says to use Mono in the Arena. It loses all confidence immediately
I am not sure how foraging could possibly be different seeing as it doesnt show pet power pets
Ah sure
Should I waste w6 upgrade stones in these armors and weapons or slowly upgrade all of them on every character with w7 ones?
yes . w7 stone hard to up , i failed 20 time in a row somehow ....
ye w7 stones pisses me off
I havent used w7 on almost anything
ty
bro i think Lava mess with us , that not 33.33% that more like 10%
But im a hoarder, I would wait until its emperor set before using w7 stones
i use 120 stone to get 11 upgrade
I love not being able to use a feature of the game for a MONTH, holy peak design, lemme just spend looks at gem shop TEN DOLLARS
Ye its not a good update to pay wall imo but it is a freemium game so there are worse out there
final shrine almost done 
Then full flaggy right kekw
tell me about it kekw
The exp? yes
It's just the fact the bonuses you get from the sets are actually super useful early on, like 60% W1 Skill Efficiency increase, 25% more class exp, 1.50x money, 60% mire W2 Skill Efficieny. They'd all be really good right now, but nope, ten dolla
better than 0 
Ye im glad I got some t5+
i need research to lvl up faster man
Same
I was just looking at some stuff and I never got my prehistory set bonus
lmao
only at research 49. my sushi need more upgrades ๐ญ
I am 49 I think
what ur xp/hr
142k
THere was hidden nodes to make insight do things that I just learned about like 2 days ago
And I assume the prehistory x2 affects it?
ah right that one. make sense lmao
i think so. research is considered a skill
i already had it unlocked prior to research
my xp/hr for context
working on making insight lvl10 on all
How do i do the thing where all the heros are still connected to the lab
They all decided to go on vacation and not be connected.
w5 bear god
Bruh i need doot so bad
just link them to arctis and use w5 hole pocket div for nobisect or something
Not only u ๐ญ
i used my sb armor to complete that set
I mean it should be most useful on my db in theory
idk plunderous mobs are op
personally i felt its the slowest
next to vman of course
I wonder if I could kill a plunderous in pirate deckhands no damage food
Anyone has uploaded account into Toolbox so i can check some card presets?
What do you want to make presets for?
Who should my dk be link too
if i put shaman in the liquid water cauldron, i get more liquid waters? thats what the alch progress does?
boosts regen
are you dive jail or lab jail?
Neither fortunately, i have all the gods and like lvl 140+ in lab on all
well god link depends on what your doing
Like bisect if your pushing maps or doing death note still
Rn im lvling my refinery cuz i neglected tf out of it and its shit
elephant can proc for afk gains on refinery I believe
man i finally got all the jar jewels in hole. is there any more reason to get jewels once i get all of them?
They have upgraded versions
Hello fazar
if you have both pages then you just get enchantments for them
Shi now i gotta wait 16 hours so i can unlink
is that what clicking on the jewel and an outline appearing around it is for?
whats the best way to farm power statues for the obolisque in W4?
Hello all, im looking for some clarification on the Atom colider.
everything tell me i should have unlocked all atoms, but i havent, as im missing the sushi atom, and yes i have unlocked the 23rd sushi for an atom, so i wonder what and where im missing an atom unlock from?
bean crystal farming in w1
it probably has to do with I think it was super bits idr the last atom beore sushi and the last WW atom
O its minehead before this last one
When I unlocked the minehead it gave me the WW atom instead
Then when I went back to buy the ww atom I got the minehead atom
I assume this new one is the same?
that fix it? im curious?
how many % dr u have rn ?
I cant emter w4 because i did not get the item to boost recipe speed so now i need to wait 12 hours
My progression is starting to slow down in w3, what are some of the best ways to build accuracy/damage? (Also why is the kill requirement so high already??)
!accuracy
stay up on vault upgrades for damage and do at least a little alchemy everyday
Thanks ๐ซก
clickers also give damage
Clickers?
Owl and roo
quick example, I dont expect you get this far for a bit though
Gyat
Are there boosts for the clickers further on or is the progression supposed to be slow
I mean it gets slower once your just farming the last prismatic fish/feather
Mm okay cause i think i got my feather to +15 but have only unlocked one of the fish (tar pit unlock i think?)
I already hate bubba
Its ok everyone does
thats with the pet.. no?
is there any trick on rift challenge 8 got 166/180 orb kills but cant get higher
the statues?
the dk sill
ah yes i put that my self
then just work on either move speed, levels or max book
What's your max talent?
If you have vman his enhancement If not po mana box could put you over that
Speed potions
Another fun round of collecting afk time. No arti and no card level
lvl 141
all it took was 120 hour worth of candies ๐ฅ
Atleast you still use your other characters, havent logged in on most in weeks...
You should be able to get it, like blank say speed potions could help. Otherwise the po mana box could add enough
yep with speed potion 177 and i failed, i think i got it in the next try, ty
I didn't believe they still existed!!!
man with t10 cogs complaining about tiny cogs
Im sure you'll get them eventually. Are you also at the point with only td towers, for construction(I only get like 1-2 levels a day
)
w4 unlocked lets go baybee
same
i only log in on my bers cause im pushing with him
need to get my new char out of sheepie jail
sheepie jail?
eehyoo
hes been stuck in w3 sheeps since i made him
oh hey im bandit bob now , awesome
Though I need to get out of this procrastination, im falling behind in tome and its not good(I was like 500 points away now 800). otherwise I have no idea what to do...
Shout out to that underused character in the pfp
wgat
What have you put your characters up too? I feel like we have similar progress so maybe this can apply to me
(all my characters are just in either bravery or spelunk)
What tier are you farming?
20 I think
Oh sorry, meant for the card. also thats sucks hate golem.
working towards 3 im at 1 rn
I mean have no idea but I've seen people in w5 with barely 2k str so im sure its fine
oh boy i can build the atom collider nowe
should i even,,,, i dont see any use 4 it in my current situation
I mean if you can unlock the 4th one it can really help(I suggest redoing your prints)
gah ive got 1000 gems should i save them for any w4 unlock or nah
ive got crystal printer, infinity forge and 1st liquid bleach cauldron
i should prob get brimstone forge slot
yin cogs ๐
If i get to this, can i stop upgrading?
I would say you need 1 kitchen, if you want you can get a lab but unnecessary. Otherwise, I would save for later there is one in w6 that is super important.
yes, but you want to reach that on every bubble.
In fact you can stop before that one, the other 3 caldrons have a ||master class drop ||bonus for the last bubbles
basically the 3rd bubble on the 7th page
its a w7 thing, so you want to push spel...
gotchaa
5th cave
Oh nice, have you worked on sushi?
Ok you would want atleast a T7 sushi helps with spel
highest is t23 so far
yah the freebies can help a lot and make sure to use all the free ones before next update
Oh wow didnt think you could go so far without a high research level congrats. then yah you are very well off for spel
the atom is very difficult though
Not sure if possible but getting t28-t29 will help a lot too
this is the new atom?
the problem i have is im kinda screw because of my research lvl
so im "stucked" in the buck shop
yah, that's what I thought, but still reaching T23 is really nice. I think I only have T25 right now and 52 research levels...
It might be they are unlocked in order so you need the minehead one, and both ww ones
you should be able to beat the boss though which is huge, I think you need like around 100 mil if you stamina is low
i was on auto, and got to the boss and was a bit shot in stamina
Is auto doing full clears?
OH, was just doing mine and got the one you were speaking haha
almost
but its better to do manual right?
Yes, havent tried using the auto with the new features, but even still you want to do manual(because you can kinda consistently get double or better hits if you know the tech)
hi guys
are there any good progression guides for armour?
basically for the regular hammer, you want to hit the area between 2 rocks(can be directly next to each other or diagonal up and down, you want to click on the bottom of the higher rock for diagonal and for side to side, depending on the angle. Usually, you hit slightly put your mouse closer to that rock. ) you can do a quick search and should be able to see a video or better explanation
1-6w amarok armor, w7 have no idea i not that far xdd
thank you
w1-w6 amarok, then move to troll, and slowly change troll to a higher tier when you have reasources.
There are cases when the earlier tiers are better in w7 though. And still craft 1 set of everything for armory
just soo u know, in later worlds ( w4 and higher ) u want to use your highes world upgrade stones ( u able to buy from town shops ) soo u have stats ( early u can focus on dmg but later can change soo they give secondery stat aka accuracy )
yey i got arrow up -ed : D
Get ur prints up son ๐ญ
i thought prehistoric was essentialyl better in all cases? unless theres a case where mob respawn is needed from the cattlekruk set i guess?
Kruk chest and legs are bis for kph, and diabolical weapon
I mean you might know better then me any progress before w6 I dont fully remember/ is really out dated
I mean like what liquid said, and a set of emperor is really good for active on dk or es
unless going for levels of course
I mean we also reach a point where armor is useless besides its misc stats, I think right now even with no armor my (non neglected) characters are pushing 500ish mil on the last maps
well i got demantia in w5 but i just repeat what i hear from others
what are the best things to 3d print?
the ones u need for refinery
ah ok yea thanks didnt know any of that until now haha
makes sense though
Refinery materials, I do a copper and a oak log print for atoms and then a godshard or prehistoric ore print to feed my smelting
yah, it gets to a point where if you not min maxing you dont really need to grind the best armor for everyone(if you have the resources, great if no who cares), most of my characters are doing things that dont need the misc stats so i just dont worry about them and switch armor when I need levels.
what does that even mean
Refinery materials are anything you need for salts
what do all the X's in fishing mean (green X, yellow X, red X, purple X)
oh killroy time ehhehe
dont think theyre w3 yet
They asked what to print
oh damn im just slow
mybad
But it mighta been too much...
ey finaly 500 kills
Its just to show your chances to get the different difficulties of fish, gold fish =green, hermitcans = yellow and so on(it also changes to represent other fish when you get to new fishing maps)
so bloach is purple and jellyfish is red ?
I think your doing better then me Ive neglected that so hard, I sometimes can't even get my 500 arcade balls
wait lemme do second room and will see how many balls i will get
yes, but if you reach the 3rd fishing map they represent other fishes
I think you need like 200 skulls for the max.(last week my vman man got 1.5x my max for him previously getting around 750)
though this week looks decent
i mean godshards and prehistoric ores
Late game ore don't worry abt it yet its just an example pretty much print the ore for the tier of gear your going for is what I'm saying
rare ores, you dont need to really do them anyway by time you get to them you will get max stacks in secs...
maybe minutes if rushed
Max stacks as in 1050M...
On my fighting setup I earned that in 10 swings... for prehistoric
I'm... speechless
well its not like super much but still
alright thanks
alright i already got +100 balls from arcade xddd ( not from lavas pit )
we all start somewhere
well around +130 gems
Thats insane. I average about a gem ever 5 arcade balls
well now count -250 for extra sample slot xdd
Yah, really wish I would be more responsible with my gem purchases always buy the limited shop and all the normal upgrades are slacking...
hmm what u recomand to have before pushing w6?
I would recommend having all bubbles, not needing normal food equipped, done rift, worked on all master classes, and atleast 1 T damage. but there is a lot of things to help new players, so it could be possible to finish before hand(you only need 3 pushers too)
AAAAAHHHH
hello, is there any guide for worshiping ?
do you mean Td?
yes tower diffence i guess
by done rift what u mean? beacouse i dont realy bealive u can do all rifts before getting bonuses from w7 or at least hard lvling your char
Rift is easy...
not at all x)
(if your in w6)you afk like 5 people and push on 1. tears -> es, specific class task do it on them, and claim your other characters afk gains to deal with the afk kill requirement
If your in w6 there is no excuse, you could finish it like in a day or two.
The only hard part about rift always is the skull requirement, active afk with dk or bubbo and in like a few hours your done
eh in day or to, meanwhile my dk eeehe i lvl 100 definitly can do this orb quest and its not like that that cant max booked orb talent xd
use speed potion if u dont have high movement speed
In what world can you be lvl 100 in world 6. I may not grasp the 2026 progress yet, but there is no way its that bad.
well its was xdd but i lvl up him a bit and its now better
like 1 kill of ^
I had more then that in w1, and most definitely surpassed that in w2
well now hes lvl 176 : D
well either way, you should be able to easily do all tasks except skulls.
i mid w6, and am stuck in get 3 tears in 60min
do you use es?
I just did that one im start of w6
well just to prepare you you have like 3 more non afk kills tasks
I think we need lava to add other requirements to progress to the next world, like alteast 10-20 levels in each of that worlds skill.
because this seems very concerning
man AGAIN I NEEDED 1 MORE KILL AAAHHH
do you have po mana box?
f wave attack wont trigger
i dont need mana, this shi wont trigger when i need it
or maybe you dont have the right setup for V-Man enhance talent.
your meant to rely on the knight skill... mostly
dont have vman in first thing xd
wait your w6 right?
just unlocked and doing town stuff, didnt pushed
wait so you finished the lab and divinity grind and your thought process was to just wing it and not try to unlock every class
can I ask do you have 1 mil kills for every w1-w3 mob?
yes
- my plan was to lvl up my char a bit ( most was around lvl 100 xd ) and then go from master classes
how many gmush kills per hour do you get on your maestro
i would say not much
I think lvl 500 is the requirement so you might be right(completely forgot about this till this moment)
do you have the right name tags, talents, equipment, cards, and foods?
although im pretty sure i got the quest for vman even though my maestro wasnt even lvl150
It might have been changed
man to much stuff need to check XDDD gemme sec
cards can be changed, food had only more exp gain ( meastro was also one of my 100 lvl char ), eq i aiming for void armor but will see
Forgot about bubbles do you have mr masacre and kill per kill?

do you have w5 or w5 card set? Also I would put things like cookie and bullets for his food(along with dumplings if you have any)
also for this maybe if late w6? probably not enough even then the mob hp gets way too high in later rift lvls
speed potion trust 


