#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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yeah thats what ive been doing, just spamming the right side while letting crowns on the right sit
ofc 
also, hi dudums 
heyio 
the answer was zero 
man you know what we really need, a way to store more than 2 damn chests per boat
We need to put an end to the sailing tiers is what we really need
Nah we just need more sources if artifact multi
Idk I'd rather he add more new content like rift, hole, or equinox any more .01% sailing will be my undoing

I would like more rift or maybe hole kinda depends on that and equinox I'd rather die I'm having a bad time with the current things I don't need more for the moment
I guess but at this rate mostly finishing equinox will take years
I guess I'm more of saying I don't want more challenges just because most are an absolute pain but I wouldn't mind more fill rate
Ok thats valid I completely agree I just hate needing months just to finish the nugget and tower defense upgrades
I feel like the equinox challenges are the least annoying out of the time gate aspects of this game. At least those have a clear objective. Everything else is "do everything if you want to progress" or "heres a massive timegate with a RNG factor you cant even work around, oh, and if you arent claiming every 1-2 hours, forget about it"
But yeah def could use some fill multi, im only at 105K for an upgrade and even that is dragging
Hey yall, trying to quickly hit lvl 150 in worship. Isn't there something you can use like ballons to help? Candy? I forget.
not really having better skulls and higher wave will give you more exp
Yeah best is to redo your TD, get a higher wave, and then you’ll level up much quicker
Well that's the problem. I wasn't paying attention and I crafted that prehistoric skull and i'm underleveled by five levels (145 instead of 150)
Oh lol if you’re crafting that you’ve definitely got the resources to make another lower tier one, just do that until you level up, it’s not that big of a loss
I did the exact same thing lmao
right, I borrowed one from another character but I'm out of worship points now
you can use balloon during a TD run.
candy doesn't give worship charges anymore. sadly enough
i'm actually not exactly sure how worship points affect xp

gotta redo waves and also check with IT or IE which totem gives most exp and click
What are your TDs at for W5/6? If those are above 160 you can probably wait a day or two and have enough charge to hit 150
More waves more exp
go to IT and it will show the exp per charge if that helps
I had all of mine at 120 and redid them all to 180-160, maaaaaassive exp jump
wait people look at worship exp? i just thought you level up everytime you use it lol
Maaaaaassive time waste too 😑
I have to get all of them to 200 
just blew all my points on that last 110
No, you level up according to how much you get per worship charge at each specific totem
W4 is better for exp most of time
Gotta bump those numbers up ma boa, hit 160s at least on all but last
so what is TD? I appreciate this but I'm just confused how I'm supposed to know which of those gives what xp.
If you haven’t been leveling the towers in construction (like I wasn’t), put the important ones in your trimmed slots, they will FLY
There’s a spreadsheet out there that’ll get you to 160+ on the first 4, then just YouTube the rest
2 of each til 7 is journey
but we ball
ok, thanks yall. I'll try it again in a couple of days when I get more energy
Best of luck soldier
Also equip normal skill exp gold food that also work on this
good advice
how my cogs looking?
@dense fable Hi sorry for ping, we talked before. Just wanna let you know I just got into W6 yesterday. I don’t even have the mantis god yet in divinity lol I managed to kill kruk with my DK easily
Is the bonus from crafting stuff on archers worth it?
Worth it, as in craft multiple times until you get it, no
Worth it, as in put talent points in it, yes
Think you're wasting the yin cogd aoe effect but you do you
Any idea where todays dig is?
by putting it the all the way to the left instead of the middle?
Yeah, they go 2 to all 4 sides and 1 across like a gear shape
can sigils be leveled up faster with Bubba skill, same as cauldrons ?
now?
what class should i pick for my 10 character? I already have 1bb, 1 beast master, 2bc, 2dk, 1 siege breaker, 1es and 1 maestro
where is daily dig
Remeber : in #1084911530417606656 there is channel : https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1483596607109857443
guys whats the recommended printer setup ive been neglecting it for so long
question what is a refinery rank
basically how many times you let it get to full before you refine * the number of salts you have open
For begginers u want to print items refinery is using soo it wont stop in some point, later on when u want to also print items for bubbles/vials soo u can upgrade them that's mostly it
Whatever the class specifies
what's the best forager team setup?
oo boy thats alot of bloaches
!guide first link buttom of the page select pets there u have many set ups
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
thanks babe
Its good to know some commands in #bot-commands and some channels in #1084911530417606656 just look in both many stuff is there
will I get another name tag this event no spending is the question
is anyone wanting to run any dungeons?
Thanks sorry i didnt realise
I did ask in general but got egoed
!merit4
1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.
There is #bot-commands for this stuff
can someone please go to pizza map 1 and say hi to snaketop for me please!
uh hold on
are you in pizza 1 ?
all good sorry only saw reply now, someone randomly did it for me lol
thankyou tho 🙂
oh lol sure
is this still the most optimal gear layout even with the new cogs?
Hello, is it possible to gain pets with effect without paying? All of my free pets have always the Null effect, so nothing, and is it also possible to get tradeable pets without paying?
Tried giveaways/asking for them in #trade-discussion ?
Thank u
Well meant u can Ask for pets in #trade-discussion no Ask your question there but well i see u get answer anyway xd
I think i also need tradeable pets to ask for pets no?
Depends if u want trade pet for pet then ye
What's the best setup on breeding
If u want free one then wait for giveaway
!guide first link, buttom of the page select pets
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
Yeah thats my Option now xD
O tysm
Hope u will get lucky, i still can roll some pets
Its good to know some commands in #bot-commands and some channels in #1084911530417606656 much stuff is there
Why u dont roll now? I have to wait 1 week :/
I wating for free one too soo cant xd
xDD
Maybe doot one day will be rolled xd
With the hat rack thing, it looks like I don't need to keep them in my storage anymore, is that correct?
U just place premium hats there for some bonuses
Right, but you can ask it to give you a copy of a given hat, so is there any reason to keep then in the chest?
Other than one you have upgraded
Nah u can free some space in storage he gives unlimited hats
- why upgrade premium hats?
I have no idea what u mean right now xdd
Or u mean hat rack still xd
You know the coin things you can put on armor to make it better?
Man its upgrade stones XD
Nah they are use less i have some premium stones but cant realy do much with them, can just sell them
You can put 5 on a hat
Id keep em as a memento
No space sadly
They're not amazing, but every little bit helps
Yes still helms are better with stats
You can equip both
- use upgrades Stones from your highest world town shop
Not sure but i think premium hats only give stats when in hat rack + premium hats have desc that's says so
Now that I think about it, the upgrade thing might have gone away with the hat rack change
I haven't looked
Yeah the old system is retired, they don't have slots anymore
The upgrade stones are now worthless
anyone got the best builds for pets and stuff?
They're beloved mementos now 
what character combo's do people usually go?
I've got 7 so far and got 1 of each class
which ones should I double?
another squire for sure
for mining and forge im assuming?
aah
ive only started playing a week and a half ago so im not that far into it right now
Im focusing on flags and powering my salts so its a bit slow
no worries, do it at your pace
but later having 2 will help a lot
also yes, can use for mining too ^^
yeah I'm thinking of using some candies to push to 750 to unlock the next slot
cause an extra character can give me some more production farming and I noticed you need a lot of stuff from mining too
yus, you can adapt it to ur needs :P
which other ones are recommended to have doubles of?
its hard to say, could do 2 bubos and 2 siege breakers
you dont really want 2 hunters
il have some time to think about it 😄 still need 60 ish levels for my next one eitherway which will probably be the DK I recently unlocked the Maestro which im leveling right now but another character focused on mining would be nice
sounds like aplan
Second begginer hmmm
once my Maestro is 140 I can turn him into a voidman later and focus on skilling
so hard to decide what to focus on in this game tbh
yesits very easy to get distracted xD
True i doing divinity,lab,vman,crafting,farming obols now xd
Question is what i want to get on my last char
Overnight im doing labs during the day im trying to get some progress in material farming to complete sets and I have one pusher
Someone told me I can unlock a god that makes all my character passive in lab for the boosts so im trying to get to the multikill node atleast
yes, thats your main goal when you get to w5
True there is god like this, second one exactly soo fast to get
I think I can probably push w5 right now if I wanted with my DK not sure but just been letting him grind for a bit rn
go get teh helmet for amarok :P
meh I got two complete sets on other characters I cant be arsed to farm extra Wooden discs 
im going to be making an efaunt set next for the extra drop rate
Most say amarok helm to expensive and ores helm or class helms are better or heard wrong?
I think amarok scales a little better because you can upgrade it more and has a little higher defence
but after plat the other ores helmets are probably stronger
its mostly about the set bonus. If you have armor smith unlocked then this is fine
you need the set bonus
hence: if he has the helmet on 2 characters and has the set unlocked in armor smith, he's fine
I do I bought the starter pack and the autoloot which got me the unlock for the armor smith
then you're good to go. No need to waste time on farming more circlets then. Just keep this until you ready to push to dementia/void
hindsight ram would've been a better purchase but its alright
Yes that's my plan I want to unlock an extra character before I go dementia/void and push world 6 after I get enough xp in Labs for the multikill node 🙂
I want to focus on getting more easy droprate stuff before I start farming rare items
an extra character for the 3D printer would be nice too 😄
What is your drop rate now?
2.5 - 3x depending on the character
Yeah, I wouldn't bother trying to get any rare stuff until you are at least 10x
Your primary concern should be getting stronger so you can get to world 6
whats in world 6 to get to?
I know world 5 has divinity
World 6 changes the way enemies scale in health, so it forces you to slow down.
It also has farming, a very important and slow skill, and sneaking, a skill that gives bonuses to many older systems
If it was a reasonable ask I would tell you to go strait to world 7
I do not have it no was hoping to get it from the weekly free pet
Meet me dice 13
No, but it makes your life way easier. I feel like you need sheepie though, so it's a really good idea to use your weekly free pets on the legacy until you get them
Sheepie I got! It's really nice
Are you Vamchy sir
In the first town? im called Vamchy
You could use your weekly pets on legacy until you get ram too, but that may not be optimal. I don't know
Voidman Tamchy haha
I only have 1 sheepie though :c
Yes but its sheepie for Ram trade I think I would like my sheepie better no
you dont lose the bonus when trading
oh so when you trade it you keep the pet?
the pet jsut becomes untradeable
oooh thats nice! I didnt know!
yes, but you can only trade with pets you spend real money on
Thank you sir! much love!
Your welcome
nice tamchy :3 im glad, and thank you veldanava
should I still try and get legacy pets now that I have ram?
you probably get more value from then, than from the others
since the other one is aimed for mor late game, but up to you
It's my birthday too so i will consider it a birthday gift haha
happy birthday :P
Well happy birthday and have a good one
@cold spindle have you used upgrade stones on your equipment?
omg now I can craft everywhere and store stuff anytime 
Happy birthday 
W3 stones I should have listened to the person helping me
dw each world stones are much better than the last
Thank you!
when you use those upgrade stones (for your DK), make sure you're applying them with a mage
My pleasure
that way your armor gets more wisdom, and more wisdom = a bunch more accuracy
Why
so if you would wanna keep up you would need to redo your set every world, just use your best stone available asap and when you switch to better gear you apply your new stones
to boost accuracy
int gives acc to warriors
I can’t remember if I put the accuracy stones on with a mage
theyre not accuracy stones, they become int stones
then if theyre on your warrior they give acc
well luckily for you, your current best course of action is to craft up some amarok armor and reapply some stones
Ughhhhh
amarok on everyone until you can do troll gear prob
his current situation btw cause you missed it
oh yeah that was you lol
what food are you using?
@cold spindle
wait so if ive unlocked sandy pot do i put it w 3 targets?
what do you mean by targets?
are we talking about collecting spices, or to fight battles?
like waht do i use this
spices
this is my dk at worms
I use hp increase potion and then the strongest food I can if survivabillity is 100% I use xp potion to increase lvling
you want the set up that its showed in the right
it will net you the most fo everything
the early game one, then move to midgame etc
yes, keep the survability and accuracy to 100% always
oh ive never seen the right side of the excel
no prayers? 
equip skilled dimwit and royal sampler 
so just do this?
you gonna triple your prints
left or right
do right if you can
both work, depends on what you want, when you use the whale it buffs adjacent spices
yes, as vexxtrasz said
so if you wanna buy a chip that requires one specific spice, you may switch things up to buff that one
I hadnt looked into it much tbh ive also been slacking on worshipping I have done it like once 😭
this one really important, isnt so hard!
Its good for farming mats right?
yeah you wanna equip that on everyone forever
any other prayers I should try to unlock
the others you gonna need better towers
printer sample size caps at 90% but you should do everything possible to get there
how bad is the -30% exp?
you can check it in your contruction skill info
doesn't even change anything cus its aditive
those two prayers can triple your prints
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#gid=2076921261
theres an old guide for tower defense there
with loadouts and upgrade levels for you to know when you may be ready to push further
Wont this one here be better? : https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1277368276095336558
oo didnt know about that one, yeah looks better!
Like i not using it beacouse to early for me but just Heard this one is good and i saved it
idk if its because of my blouqes are in the 10k range or something else but i get way less than another build i used
and if its becasue of that how do i make it higher? better eggs?
More pet power and look if u didnt miss place some pets that's all i can tell
how do i get more pet power
better eggs or sum else
Better eggs, beast master talent wont tell u much i not that far in w4
Like yesterday unlocked wooden board pet and now changing by spice set up
well should i use squirrel for foreger or like the furtherst forogaer ive unlocked
!guide first link and pets on buttom, i using set ups showed here, old but people say still good
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
its mostly better eggs+ the skill lvl
the later usually have better stats
Need to focus breeding bit more xd meals i have getting hard to upgrade
yes keep unlocking new spices and such and using ur eggs c:
My eggs : now gona hatch wood board somehow lol
ugh why it doesnt work
Em still not link xd
Its same thing that !guide command use
Soo why copy whole link when u can just go #bot-commands and !guide XD
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
i preffer the link only :3
xd
I prefer the full thing
but I would prefer it WITHOUT griffybit...
can someone link the events channel where the dig locations are? I cant see it for some reason
yep...
tysm!
Is this a new bug ? Or why everyday i loose all my damage ? Happened Yesterday, got it back no clue how, and today again...
not a bug, check ur cards, talent presets, gear etc
Had to check every town skill again 🤷🏼♂️ Fixed it
yay c:
Does anyone know how to unlock the last couple meals? I just cant figure out how
have you progress far enough to get the spice for them ?
get to w7 part 2
yeah just need the spice combos
you can check in toolbox pretty sure
wiki and guides didnt have anything. toolbox has recipies but they didnt work for some reason
should be last spice and play around with some of hte later ones
hmm ok ill try thx
got my 5th nametag today so i can ignore the event now
U got 5 jackpots? HOW?
ey im first Q sample
nice!, im still at 1k t :<
also my red salt fuel cant go above 1.9 days lmao
I still 5k xd and need 1m
you can do it!! 
Later let my bb get more lvls
This is great!
which map would that be?
how do i actually put shrines down?
Ice cream npc quest gives talent
gives you a start talent, you use it and it will tell you
i finished the tutorial?
Looks like it
Yeah now win 100+ matches for base good bonuses
You need minimum 8000m health / 1500m dmg to reach 100 stage infinity
Holy
mmm yea need to farm more essence i guess
Unlock all essence
from the boss stones?
Finish divinity then finish statue guy who speaks about bravery or something
With the skill, you get it as part of the ice cream guys quests, I believe
Endless is huge get to work
Nah that's 2x bonuses from them you need to win them tho
Meal bonus multi, winner bonus multi, monument afk
will do haha
Yeah over long run but when you reach 100 you just hit a TITANIUM wall
That's not true at all
You can't go to 150 tho
they say, summoning gives you 99 million statues
Who said 
You can get past 300
I'm at endless 250, and could get 300 if I wasn't lazy
I'm nub don't think I'm over 120 
I’m at 292
no one, it's just my guild leader insane statue collection
People are pushing 350 i think
What's your dmg in summoning?
Idk it's in the trillions I think, maybe low quadrillions
Yeah mine still 1700m ;w; lacking essence speed gain
It's hard to remember because it changes
🤷♂️ how do I get trillions though I'm stuck at 2000m an stuff and my health is 10b plus or something
early game summoning is so slow
Yeahhh
so slow not just slow
Spelunking helps
Thanks :0
Cyan is pretty nice, but completing it is currently impossible
Unlocking cyan instantly let me do a full round of all the summoning gems boss battles
Im currently hard stuck on 348
i dont wanna be that guy but I just got to w5 when I havent cleared w4 yet 😭
Please tell me I was not the only one
I think some people are reaching 360ish range
Hey, i just got my 9. Character
I already have 1 of each subclass, the secret class und another DK
What would you recommend for char 9 and 10?
probably a shaman and a siege
if anyone wanna know how to reach w5 while u are in w4, if u have the village teleport unlocked in the upgrade vault teleport there and then die to a w5 mob, then u will be teleported to w5 town where u can buy some cheap items but that are really good for w4
yeah I stumbled upon it by accident
How can you die to a W5 Mob in W4?
unequip ur gear i guess
But if you're in W4, how to even see a W5 mob?^^
You hug a W5 mob and "unalive" your character
read what he wrote
I read it and dont understand it^^
okay then i'm probably not far enough in the vault right now
Okay who has so much money while still in W4? xD
do you have a maestro?
also friend bonus, if a high level player gives u extra money bonus it really helps
No not right now. I'm struggling with the 15 loops for the quest xD
see
How many characters do you have?
this guy needs spearfish
9
I have a Journeyman
then evolve him twin
But no Maestro, because i fail in the catching minigame xD
I would if i wouldn't be so bad in the minigame^^
i mean, it has a failsafe for the unfortunate
Yeah I didnt make it to 15 loops, but I did with the failsafe
Failsafe?
Ahh the 90 Loops in sum is good enough?
yes
15 loops is easy if you get 15 yellow hoops in a row
either one will complete the mission
So tonight after reset it is time to finish the questline. God bless
just don't hit the first hoop 5 times
how did u put all of your characters in it? dont u have to farm stuff? 😭
world 5
makes sense
World 5 stuff dont worry
can u tell me what specifically?
In w5 u have divinity, in that divinity u unlock gods with many bonuses
Second god makes your char always active in lab but no exp gain for this
theres a skill called divinity, it has a god called arctis where you are stay connected to laboratory always
yeah i saw that when I was there
I just have to leave a character on the pedestal right?
2 Bubo or 2 ES better?
Depends mostly if u have doot or not/u want to end divinity faster or not
like this?
The heck happened here
yes
take a proper screenhot :3
you gonna have to wait AGES
I'm on a steam deck kinda can't my pc kinda ded
😭 no way of speeding it up?
Ye, tactic for divinity is to spam low % offerings until u see 100% one on the right
theres multiple ways to speed it up but they take longer to scale up early game
xD, also yes that s weird bug
i can vouch myself cause im hardstuck at 5th god atm
Best way to speed things up is to change style that u unlock by getting divinity lvl on char other way is to upgrade gods passive bonus
Ty
Hi ,whats the best main to push maps and kill mobs pls ?
Dk is great for active push, bb for afk if remeber good
yes ^
you could honestly get away with active bb in w6
I pushed with SB xd
thanks, so I just have to be patient basically
if they asking that, they probably not at w6
Yes but I use them for fishing and mining so there is no other way to optimise push ?
Same as lab
cause if you are lacking in accuracy, bb inflamed skill boosted its accuracy depending on its fire aura
Well nobody stoping u from pushing with other char, bb and dk is best but can pick other classes
i basically didn't even grind lab cause I wanted to farm with all my characters lol
guess Ill farm this one first
Is the pig shiny or squirrel shiny better for infinite star signs
Well go do lab then more u get now more u will have later
i mean
you can use the divinity balls in laboratory
don't need to farm something that takes forever
but if I unlock lab without the players there then I think It's gonna be better long term no?
Can someone help me with dance achievement please 🥺
well yeah but. i was asking that you should use your divinity balls to make your characters level 50 in lab
then do arctis so you can connect to almost everything
oh sure, i dont even know what those are but sure
have you done the event
whats an arctis 😭
do you see red balls
yeah yeah
those are what im talking about
Divinity one of the god name
yes
everyone has a messy chest no one will care about that lol
Aaaaahhh use small mod
your chests looks very good, compared to others i ahve seen
nahh
get those balls
i didnt know u could use those in the clone thing
put your characters in lab, then use the balls
but will do
How tf u have more space them me?
Oh gem shop
yeah 100% worth it
Nah better things to buy there
Ill take tips
Aaahh
buy all, 100% recommend
Dont remeber all xd
Still 2 missing
prolly missed 2 events
yee, those are from Event Shop I think
I didn't see those in the last events, maybe it was last year
Just gona tell u what i bought from gems shop : anvil, 1 Forge, 1 liquid cauldron, crystal 3d print, 1 kitchen, 1 insta plant grow and max winner bonus
can't wait to get max level meals for this
lvl 30 is not the max level, there is later in the game a lot of meal level increases but at the same time a lot of sources of meal speed increases.
lvl 30 is just current max
Ah didnt wanted to know that
I doomed once again
how do I increase my daily vials over 15?
||160|| is the max level for meals
Only way p2w tab
is it worth it?
this is max, max it out
Aaaahhh why i reviled that spoiler
Ye
ohoh thats sad lol
im at the cucumber and it takes forever
cuz its a spoiler, you basically got told not to look, so you had to look 
god, wish i can beat the next spice territory so this 2 missing meals aren't making it ugly
max everything you can at P2W Tab, because they cap out really fast as you see on my pic
Only player bonuses scale
what foods should i spend ladels on?
to shower yourself in hot water
xd
For equinox?
Nah, i afkd for like 3 years and got a surplus
My foods arent that high levelled so i dont know what order to up them
Have you done the ladel equinox quest?
nope, didnt even know there was a ladel equinox quest
Ill look at the list of quests to see what items i should sae up, ty
Save 100,000 for the equinox cloud
That is quite a lot
Then use 50 ladels each on every meal
Yeah
your a one ladle wonder
upgrade your cabbage and you'll see god
everything is coming up millhouse
Do you have any characters doing nothing?
I wouldn't say that
now that would be a win
Nope. Heard AFKing doing nothing gives a trophy or sth, but back then i dont know if it was added
100,000 ladels eventually becomes very easy
Oh well, nothing is pretty dang good
I gotta check when it was added so i dont feel like i missed out 😭
i stopped like a few weeks after world 4
i think
Nothing is one of the only things in the game that doesn't scale with anything
I dont think it was out 4 years ago to be honest
So a beginners 10k hours is just as good as a late gamers
equinox and rifts werent a thing either im pretty sure lmao
so much cool stuff in the old worlds
Islands were added before equinox, but I also remember it coming off at a similar time
oh right, back then omgar wasnt ready yet, so i dropped the game before islands
World 7 has more cool stuff then any world before it, by a lot
I heard a chunk of players hate it since theres a "prison" (lab, divinity) that progresses only while active or sth
No its afk but its like over a month of all afking still
guys I want help pls
People are mostly mad because content for world 7 is being released separately in chucks, so the new thing added is really slow, and they want to finish it in a week
each world seems to pop off more thatn the last one
CurrentlyTrying to rush through w6, but enemies are quite tanky so im upgrading equips before candying through
Wait... is there something i should save candy for
Use the guide
like is candy better used for upping skills past lvl 50, is there an equinox, etc
bro it's broken the guide can't fix it
Travel back in time, then use the guide!
The true timeloss is accidentally buying dice roll 
that's not funny
Buying 5 dice rolls is pretty something
what should I do ?
You should max out the vault upgrade that gives you 30x meat
And limp to victory
🙁
I need 1,5 year to get the new mega flesh
You act like 50 billion is a lot. Aren't you glad I didn't say 4Q, like this guy?
thats 4T not 4Q
Wait that's only 4T
BRO I'M A MED GAME PLAYER 🙁
I'd like to say im endgame but know its not true
Your bubba got messed up with both gifts and meat. You just gotta except that you will be stuck for a while. It's really not a big deal
Almost everyone one in world 7 did it all with zero bonuses from bubba
Oh, did not know bubba can gank itself if you kmess up a few things
should be fiiiine
yah just dont use gifts or upgrade the wrong chrisma upgrade and your fine
uh oh
It's not that bad if you aren't silly, but it's really really bad if you just vibe
Stop using smoker
hmmmm will it work
i wanted to fill up the missing meats lmao
12+ hours only at this point
ey
Also, roll your dice, it resets every hour
and 1 more
waiting for a 1 mil first
time to leave my DK here on active till 1B kills happen
wait nvm had the wrong robe equiped
your afk gains seem low, do you have the right foods equipped?
Midgame chat and im seeing colors of coins and numbers ive never seen in my life 
x2 XD
dont look at the peanut was mining earlyer
I mean if it makes you feel better you will catch up to us before w8 easily
i thought you just dump these into the bean stalk
you can only do that once
beanstalk has a limit
Hmm idk but Im hitting around 9.4k without my dumpling
when i fixed my dumpling stack i hit 10K
wait whats the right charisma upgrade?
Depends on your mega flesh but I stick with the mindful max -> rizz max -> anything else is just hustle
hello all, I haven't played the game for almost 3 years, only occasionally opening the game for a day then leaving again, and have 0 idea what is going on or how to improve, is there any guide or cheat sheet out there to know what to do?
I mean you can try reading this https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1416496957865721997. try to watch some youtube videos those help like account reviews. Or if you want you can give us a general idea where you are and we can offer some advice
btw Took me 4 days on 4 characters to scrounge up a total of 4k power statues (2k from my Divine Kngiht), but this was a while ago. Should i send my newly-minted Arcane Cultis to increase the droprate on the beans map lmao
if you are that early game, AC is not your stuff yet
( I mean, probably progress faster something else, than bothering with AC boost yet )
All my characters are lvl 475-515 range, but my skills are terrible and don't know how to scale my damage to the insane heights some people have, i currently have 48B max dmg on my death bringer and its only that high since i randomly pulled a pet that does 10x max dmg, but my equipment is mostly world 3 since hunting and worshipping is a massive pain, same with pets and cooking, essentially everything after world 2 skills wise i am completely lost since i wasnt really playing then, any guides for skills and scaling specifically?
there isn't specific guides (up-to-date) for this, best is to, try to understand a skill, if you have question ,ask here
take skills one by one, and try to "master" it
basically everything helps. I would try to work on unlocking all vials and bubbles for alchemy and just looking or trying to interact with all the skills atleast once a day to slowly grasp them again
your in w6 so thats a good sign
W5 and W6 skills are the "easiest" to understand, all you need to do is : "check them often, like every 2-3-4 hours"
ok thanks, i will see how things go
most important NOTE for you :
- you can progress the game, just by chilling and checking your skills
- you don't have to minmax/focus guides for them, just ask sometimes chat
is there a worship guide to maximize rounds, most towers are high level so i just need to know how to use them
talking with this crazy power, I am a layed back guy, not minmaxer
you can use the current/old ones
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
the first oje
there is a tab for worship/TD iirc
one day my DR will too reach 100x+ kekw
I always watched youtube videos for every tower minigame ( there are perfect guides to reach Wave 200, if you can do only 100, the guide is still good, it tells you step by step, wave by wave )
in construction: it says total build rate does that mean its spread over all the constructing items?
nah thats per slot thing
your stats are so hyper focused
and your trimmed rate is ?.??x that
I never did candy clicking/spamming gaming plants/spamming farming/ anything that is high click and active time consumption ( that is what's minmaxing for me )
oh and I don't leave my PC running always
sometimes I don't login for days
default of 3x
atom collider is a large source
early sources are from 1 atom collider
event shop upgrade
2 from jewel
OH ok that makes more sense because some of that is higher then mine but your dr and damage is oddly low(along with accuracy and defense but those are apparently not real according to other idleon users)
yeahh, I just lay back 
I don't see a reason to push higher DR/damage
as I feel "late gamer"
and pushing high every mechanic ( to a reasonable number )
like, I don't care about somebody is 0.1% stronger
I push only when gains are big, and I need to beat a mechanic ( I was pushing DMG to grind W6 boss as example )
you can check this in the skill you know
oh, 26x, nice
I mean ive seen people with 40+ (ignore the build rate this is my ac)
I even "maxed" important stuff in construction as layed back player, I am chilling 

The towers give me depression like 3 upgrades a day is not fun in the slightest
I haven't played tower defense this year ( 2026) 
man ngl i wish tortous and tutel were used in bubbles
if Lava adds meaningful reason to play TD, I will do it
right now I feel very slight buff at this totem
isn't there like a buff on gaming that boosts the waves after 200?
or am i trippin trippin?
i find it amusing that i could probs hit these numbers if i worked on my towers a bit more for the W1-4 TDs kekw
I think your tripping
I am here at gaming, and nope
Wdont mention towers mine are at QQ and soon to hit QQQ
ah damn, mind is blowing me lmao
not today bonus predicted for w8 release effect 
oof i guess i need to take a break then lmao
can we hit all trims now wit hW7 p2 or not yet
Im in the same range most of the costs are in the 5-9QQQ range right now
yeah, I could also push them to Wave 200, but I don't see big difference for my grind
( if I push a TD from 170 -> 200 )
we are missing 2
same lol
its too much effort for me rn
ill just do it later probs W5
ive done well over enough for W4 and for life material wise kekw
speaking of whioch i need to mass worship
almost to 100% again 
sure what server
mayo 15
any way to use balloon/candy in trapping to lvl up my voidwalker?
wait what why the fuck am i talking in w3
wait what
The fibers of absence prayer mentions that it increases the kill count for death note and portals, does this also affect the kill count required for the Rift?
wasnt this like 10-15 gems 😮
I think it was between 10 to 200
but pretty sure he chooses it so same for everyone I believe
oh boy
i sure do love doing a full 11956% charge and getting a crazy amount of frigid soul cards!!
i got a whole 1 card!
huge
nope just gotta do turtle nature traps
wait
maybe able to baloon it?
unsure gonna test rq
ye we can
you have to use baloons when standing on a trapping area where the bottom corner says trapping
sweet, just got my first elite class. Looking at skills, now we're REALLY incentivized to play active afk :/
lmao
just you wait until you get master classes :p
but yeah once you get elites you really get into good gains
they are all very good active classes from DK to ES to Bubo
BB still is best for afk killing tho 
Nice, I'll just think about how I want to do this from now. While I push BB to world 5
Is there anything I can do better here? I don't really understand what it wants
if you can active it its prob quicker to active push DK to W5 fwiw
just make sure you have the killers brightside node active in lab
have only your squires on the board if possible
Yeah, Squire still underleveld, and stuck in lab
focus on unlocking the board and player exp% cogs
The who?
angular cogs torwards your eventual 2 squires/DKs
yknow
squires
the class advancement in W2?
beginner warrior barbarian/squire BB/DK
That's the tier after barb? I only have a barb so far
eventually youll want your board to look something like this
BB/DK are W4
warrior is W1
squire/barb is W2
at W2 you get splitting class pathways
warrior Barb/squire
mage shaman/wizard
archer bowman/hunter
Yeah, so far I only have one warrior type, and it's a barbarian
Do you not have other characters slots unlocked?
squire wizard hunter are all classes that do W3 stuff
they have 4 players it looks like lol
So squire is the other choice from barbarian...
yep
fwiw when pushing barb is best afk killer n whatnot before W4
I have 6 slots I just haven't made them yet because idk what to do with them
then almost all the other classes are better then it in terms of killing activly
You make 1 of every class
1 of each class
an extra squire wizard and bowman was meta
but hold off on the second wizard and bowman for now until the final 3 masterclasses come out
sounds good. barb gonna switch places with squire in the lab 😛
can never go wrong with 2x DK tho
yeah BB/DB are the best afk killing classes
DK and ES are really good active killing classes due to respawn mechanics
I have shaman, barb, Bowman, and wizard. I wasn't sure how many slots you get so I held off on making more
i think rn AC is the best active afk class for killing i assume? unsure about that rn
10 rn
9 for main classes 1 for support class
should get yourself a squire next then a hunter if you desire repition
I guess I'm making more dudes
then for your 7th you should make it the support class ||journeyman||
I've already been farming peanuts because I don't want to collect them on a beginner
then 8th another squire
and then just create your 9th and 10th players but dont give them classes rn i suppose due to only 3/6(7) of the masterclasses being out rn
Who are u guys using to push W4? DK or ES?
Dang, so ES isn't even in the pushing picture?
i mean you can use ES
Has to be a reason majority using DK tho right
but iirc wormhole kills dont count as portal kills
ah, so its a waste of time if u use wormhole
kinda sorta i think?
but wormhole does respawn mobs
ES and DK are the two options but i think DK was slightly better last i checked
divine hand has perma uptime from level 1
Does divine hand work when ur afk tho?
no?
or is this strictly just for active
i said BB for afk if we are talking about afk killing lol
other wise DK/ES for active preferibly DK
Yeah, but I won't be active 100% of the time which is what im debating atm
ES portal skill doesnt work afk either
non of the classes respawn mechanics work afk
Cool, thanks for the info
np
Pfft base damage is 45k at creation
yeah thats always fun
i think mine was in the millions when i made my 10th
twas an amusing time
all these damage in just 3 days
hmm is the left screenshot the old one or new one
I'm a bit lost with maestro class.
I've got the highest skill level in all that have efficiency (mining, chopping, fishing, catching and cooking, working ok trapping)
What should I do with that character now while afk? Continue leveling up skills?
What buffed you up so much??
Cooking doesn’t matter btw it’s just w1-w3 skills
Just use him for jails
div, hole
Oh, thought cooking counted too.
What's jails?
There are so many sources I doubt they even know
places that you just afk ur chars at for a long time
like lab and div and monuments
Understood!! Thanks a lot!!
I’m pushing with 2000m. I need this power bonus lmao
I have lvl 400 characters and 2 master classes I think I pushed too quickly I hit w6 in a week by abusing x2 kill counters 😭
Does the same apply to vman when it's not running portals?
I mean generally its every skills, slab, alch, clickers, equipment foods and other things
Btw (this may only be once hes a vman) if you place nature traps on him he will get a shit ton of xp
Yeah and the speedrunning portals thing is something you do actively
What is the secret set?
will drop rate help with cards for critters?
If you want some specific advice you would have to explain where you are or IT. usually alch, foods, and cards
I did place traps that give exp but only because I thought I needed that skill to be the highest on maestro too.
its the beginner one. Do you have godshard weapons?
It’s probably my alch, considering my highest bubble level is a prisma dropping loads bubble at lvl 66 😭
Part of it is mittens of the gods which require a w6 rare drop you won’t be able to get a lot of until w7, so don’t worry about it for a while
idek how I’ve managed to get through the game with my terrible alchemy
This is annoying... Been like this for 5 minutes, and I can't see any gap 🤣
try es
i mean its not going to be game changing in w4
You can spawn the mobs where you want them
Shet I just upgraded them
2026 progression is insane or so I have heard...
it picks up when you can start upgrading stuff with atom collider
upgraded what
I’m W6 but my actual power is like barely w5
yeah thats how everyone that gets to w6 is at first
To w7🥲
just progress every mechanic you have access to, literally everything
oh I thought I was like extremely behind 😭
Well later in w7, you need 100k dark lanterns
No its super normal with vault existing
I do have exalted crystal stamp might be time to crystal farm soon I need to start onyx statues soon
I have smiley statue buff so it might be worth it
Do you have choco chip
and DR is 11, no chip yet no waiting for rotation got the materials for it tho
Ahh only 12k away
ok you had me confused asking in the w4 chat lol
def go for it then the set bonus is really good
How do you have 88k dark lanterns if you just entered w7 😭
I mean back before w7 we only had like a max of 100 dr now its much higher even without w7
Oh I didn't enter w7 just now, 🙂
Just didn't have the secret set unlocked
??

@shell spade managed to 10x my copper ore copies 
told ya those prayers go ham
What's the best way to get 20K power statues for the quest
this, i have done absolutely every single way to boost damage, i forgot which one actually gave me the damage bump
i could also get even more damage once i finally get a 3rd link to nobisect
theres also sailing artifacts for damage
farming for damage and summoning for damage
i used to have 20b damage 15 days ago
and now i have 600b damage, almost reaching 700b damage
can't forget about cooking and salt lick
salt lick doesn't give that much but its enough!
i could boost it to 700b damage once i get more new crops. and, ancient the damage% by the pow of 10 build spd artifact
summoning is a large part
How do I increase my damage and accuracy I'm in world 4 around level 150 but I'm kinda stuck
whats your damage
2m to 8m
owl/roo most likely, do your vault
for accuracy in w4 you unlock main stat upgrade stones that can help you a bunch
for example if you want to get your warrior accuracy, use the stones while on a mage class
Im still on the boost food train(my damage becomes crazy with the foods)
...and obviously alchemy. green 8th bubble
What are stones
upgrade stones
Where do I find them
shop
always does
Oh ok I'll do that
it only gets better
Still need to get the one from the trunk, I dont have worship 30 yet
make sure you have skulls on everybody and upgrade them when you can
bruh i just got to w7 a week ago XDD
I'm honestly not sure what to do anymore. I managed to push all the way to W4, got myself an ES, and now I have no idea what I need to be working on. I know I should keep pushing to higher worlds, but my acc and def are getting further and further behind, and I'm not really sure what I should be doing with all the skills up until now. Does anyone have a suggestion or two to get me back on the track?
I dont think your reaching that... its quick far
its gonna take months for mehaha
I would scroll up a little bit Rare just gave some advice. If anything try to light up the 2x kills in lab then push for new classes
youll be fine, legend tallents let you catch up crazy fast
i almost made it far in the tournament today
Ah yes what exactly do the skulls do?
I did put them on all the characters I had when I unlocked them
they generate charge over time, better skulls generate more charge, then you can use the charge to either play the tower defense or just get your best score instantly
Do the green and purple tubes mean character on the lab interface or characters in the tubes?
lab interface
cheers
put your bubonic conjuror at the very back if you want all your characters to get more line
Vault, owl/roo, and alchemy are all great ways to get more accuracy
Vault and Alchemy are stagnating for me, since I'm not getting enough of the upgrade materials to keep pushing them.
unlock all printer slots, have everyone print and then lock them in lab till you get 2x kill node
You should use printer to get resources for the bubbles you want to push, getting millions of materials should not be difficult, especially when you only have one bubble to target, the accuracy one
expect you forget, early game that resouce is so low
I mean... when that bubble requires bloaches, and my best print on those is only 3/hour, I think I'm doing something wrong.
printing bloches should be on a barb
You need to equip the boost food when you do prints
And all the right cards
And max the skill
if you connect the the 2nd node(wired in) that will increase print amount
Also, you probably need a better fishing rod, and turn in your fishing statues
I turn in all statues I get, and you're probably right on the rod.
I'll see what I can do, thanks for the advice
Good luck!
did you get crystal 3d printer from gem shop?
Yeah, managed to nab that one
Remember to save the boost food from the events for printing. Don't waste it doing real finishing
do edible coins now drop in w4? 5 minutes and nothing
Holy hell, after selecting cards and upgrading my rod, went from 3/hour to 56/hour. Not quite enough, but still a substantial increase. Thanks~
Have you collected 50 today?
Oh yeah, looks like i did. Might have moved map before picking up 50.
Lost in killroy
rip killroy pranking ur coins
Hoping for 100k before the year ends
in less than 2 hours i think
nice, also those rings...
green
OK that is the single greatest argument I've seen, I have no counter points
is it worth maxing the clicker incremental minigames
Yes the clickers offer a lot of good bonuses both early game and late game
is it worth going past the final megafish on poppy
30b extra damage
yes, im sitting on 10 right now getting a 6x boost about to get 11 in the next few days
Oh your almost at purple damage. Still jealous about that hat though
is purple at 10T
I believe so
long way to go
like 10x and your good
i only need glunko the massive so im closer for that purple damage
i just got to world 4
Not only is it worth it, but bubba is affected by your poppy fishing ability (most people haven't reached this point yet)
Just go slow
is there a BiS sheet guide for mobs for spice generation?
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
go to the sheet -> click on the pet tab and the spice generation is still accurate
cheers! ty
Hi guys im rlly struggling with leveling carpenter bubble its at 104 rn i need more but salts so annoying yo get
How do i get more levels on it
Hate to be the one to say this but thats one of the bubbles you upgrade a few times and just have to wait for nblb to bring it to atom range(you can maybe get it to the thousands of cost but its not much more achievable)
Wait what
But some of the bubbles are at lvl 50 itll take so long to get nblb to upgrade it
Then you want to upgrade the lower level bubbles to force it to hit(either way it will take months no need to worry to much about it right now)
If you really want to help with construction make sure you have the right setup and try leveling up the call me bob bubble
Is there always a correct answer thing for justice?
Not for all of them but for most of them there is. The best answer is to ignore it for the most part(justice is the worst one)
I sure wish I read the guide before I managed to do the exact opposite class setup😭😂
no need to follow the guide that was just linked for that it is outdated(still want 2 dk but the rest are kinda up to you)
I have 2 besrk 2 conj and 2 beasts😭😭😂😂 and 1 of the rest I noticed it a bit late that those others are a bit better
yah I feel you there, we should be getting the 11th character soon though
I need to make it to w6 first😅 struggling to get through 5 I feel like its so slow. But I should probably be focusing on the refinery and worshipping over anything else
lmao
Did you do the div / lab jail?
thats actually so painful
started playing during christmas... got a lucky scratch and thought it would be a good idea to put it on my newly unlocked turkey
Also no idea why but even with that, the bonus seems really low
😂 I only have 5 open on 4 characters so not div yet. But I have done a little with the lab jail. Nothing insane as its.. well ya know the worst thing known to mankind😂 been farming mats to upgrade the stamps and anvils
I mean once you get the 2x kills from lab and the kill boost from divinity it should help push you farther
damn i got 115 gems on daily gems
I did the same thing, got ribbon from event, just got to w4 put the ribbon on my first empty spot 
I mean eventually we will max all meals but in the short to long term it still will be painful
I have question i think i can push to w5 but which one is better farm untill lab lv 75 or w5 than lab lvl 75
w5, if your reaching 2x kills.(there is another jail mechanic in w5 and you can do that and slightly into the skill allows you to progress that and lab at the same time)
wait for rotation or spend gems(I think you need like 1.2k on average to get it depending on luck though)
Next one is
I never try chip gamble cus my luck it shit
unless lava changes rotation
So can i get same chip ?
Yeah
Nah nah just to let you all know if despair come to me i blame you all 😆😆😆
U can get duplicate chip from gemshop 

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