#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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i found a youtube video where someone shows you have to make multiple stacks in the chest for it to go past 1050 so i will try that but if it doesnt work im making a bug report
slowly but surely making it there
Does it matter a lot if i forgot to use my archers to craft something for the possible buff from godly creation?
Nice
Going back to craft everything with archer is not going to be fun 
Does craft from storage work for the godly creation thing? or do i need to actually craft from inventory?
It works, the cap is 1050 per stack. That being said, 3d printer will only fill the first stack then atomize, even if you got other stacks.
Have to do it skilling or keep swapping low stacks to the front for 3d printer to hit
how am i making more xp if the prayer i am using makes exp skill gain -20%
went from 1.3k xp a hour to 1.43k
finally, the hat
also was your efficiency sub-100% beforehand assuming you mean Skilled Dimwit?
yes
it's possible that while your exp multiplier decreased the amount of base EXP you were getting increased to compensate
Ughm, I hate the fishing minigame so much. I can't catch more than 2-3 in a row
makes sense
getting closer n closer to finhsing cactus first quest
alsois it normal for your wind archer with basically no gear outdamage your dk
this is him with no potionsjust this
I forgot you could still get WW super early, but damage between classes fluctuates as you progress it's probably not that weird but specifics are hard to tell at a glance
How tf are u windwalier with piss poor damage
It's a master class that's w6
at some patch Lava implemented a button at Gigafrogs I think it is that turns a character into a WW I think, no ones sure if it's intentional or not that it was left in since Lava never addressed it as far as I know nor was it removed
My assumption is it was a dev test thing that was added but not removed and after people found it it was just left alone
regular frogs*
never messed with it myself but that's at least what I've heard on it
ah I see
you press the W in the word away in the afk menu 25 times and you gain the ww class, i think it was meant to be a part of a sponsor for some guys video and he just forgot to remove it
ah
so ww is ust a sponsro that was forgotten
hi o/ what should i focus on breed unlock i my last unlocked are gublin and crabcake?
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
check the pets tab on the top link above, you'll see what pets you need to progress
1 in 68 right now but i dont have choco chip
i dont understand why should i put a fighter on foraging
The game is weird that way. :)
Actually, it's weird the other way around...you put foragers on fighting.
If you look at Genetics, you can see that some of the foragers also have a fighting component:
can someone clarify this? I've made it to dioxide and feel like i've been cycling has been extremely slow
but it doesnt show any foraging aspects on fighters
becasue there is a trait that makes output higher depentent of combat pets in the foraging linup
check all the traits idr which one it is
but tldr there is a setup that uses combat pets a support in foraging but late game you dont do that
wait for power to hit max (like 1000/1000) and then hit rank up!
and boom youve ranked up that salt
hmm i see
Can anyone teach me how to do TD
once this hits 1m/1m i can hit refine rankup and it refines all the salt and ranks it up by 1
which increases power per cycle (aka more salt per cycle)
what can explain afk kill per hour being lower than what's displayed nevermind my dumb ass was using 24h candy with unending energy active
You are not the first. lol.
ooooh is it that i've been auto refining that none of the salt goes into the combustion itself?
o7
Moi moi please
autorefine refines it as soon as it hits 0.01% iirc
you need to refine at 100% to rankup
whats td? 😭
tower defence
worship
Tower defense
ohhh, im not that experienced with it yet ima be honest
yeah you need to turn off auto refine in order to rankup stuff
as you can see in my image
step 1 unlock and level up more towers the one you start with are garbo
I just be spamming boulders lmao
step two look up a good setup but yeah boulder carry you through the early game first 40 waves at least if leveled up a bit
(as in leveled up in construction)
im so stupid, i've been autorefining this whole entire time wondering what the enabling and disabling do
Sigh I’m cooked
whats ur setup so far?
Bro I can’t even do the mini game after5 hours
Ugh few towers I unlocked boulders 🥹
Nobody can really handhold during the beginnings of TD/Worship, because people have different towers at different levels. Even most of the videos aren't going to be useful to you right away, for the same reason. Make boulder rollers, put them on the screen, level them up, and see what happens. You'll want to level those boulders up so they do some damage.
idk if this is the method but I feel like boulders are best for clearing those mini waves if you're getting stuck on that
But u can’t even play ts even after 5 hours in at 9/25%
Ts pmo
one cna still infer ideal placements from them though 
upgrade your skulls and charge rate then??
@woeful karma also, does fuel time mean the amount salt it can produce due to the amount of materials is set?
there is plenty of sources for it
Do what? I’ve upgraded them all as much as they get on each char ts not working
fuel time means how long your current stock will last if left on auto refine without repleshing your stored mats
Then try again tomorrow. It took me a week to get to like...25 on my first tower.
what skulls do you have?

Ain't no magic wand here, I'm afraid. :(
Basically it’s gg
better yet
Sigh
show us your woirship stat in inv skills worship lol
how to increase max lvl of tower in construction?
Collider
lv 2500 TOT via rift construction mastery
and then something in W5 collider iirc
and then another source i think that i am forgetting
thanks
Oh yeah, Construction Mastery. lol, I'm only at 1450, so it'll be a while. But I don't think I could get to 2500 without the +2 atom levels.
(If I finished leveling everything that I can right now, I wouldn't be at 2500.)
this is on my BM
im at 22xx/2500 
its gettign slow as shit without W5 construction buffs
lol, I have days where I sit here and read and do the lowest level stuff. Fortunately I have one trimmed slot from the event, and another from collider, or else I'd be cooked.
there is also these aamong some other stuff afaik
!weeklyboss
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I wish I could do that 
technically my quickest build time rn is 0h0m0s (voidinator)

i have 3.
shit is hard bro 
man that was a massive lag spike on my pc lol
but yea
quickest is primordial
longest is trapper....
also wtf why is lava adding legally distint not minesweeper to idleon 😭
I still have a couple of low hanging items (besides collider, trapper, etc.) and haven't finished library yet, but one I get all my L54 towers on, I'll just level up that atom some, so should be some slightly lower stuff there.
oh yeah it will massivly speed up once i unlock W5
within 10 minutes ill have atom collider
any advice to push those into omni or is it just a numbers game at this point
I'm looking forward to it - I'm still remembering 3-4, wasn't that long after I started. lol.

It's hard to tell given the "interface" , but I don't think that's following mine sweeper rules. lol.
how does this minesweeper knockoff work 
Not very well?
idk unfortunately lol
afaik it works just about ad well as the last event tickets lmao
you just pray you don't hit bombs and get fucked by rng
i see 
He sort of forgot the fact that some minesweeper cells are blank, lol. This is more a guessing game.
it's like the memory game in w5
except you don't see the cards.
wait.. are you still in w4 
Note blank spots. lol.
Until April 12th. (joke, btw.)
unfortunately 
crazy 
I assumed the lack of atom and voidinator would kinda be self explanatory 
what's truly crazy is my breeding 
freedom is so close yet so far
(and then all thats left is some shinies)
After breeding, W5?
like a week or two after yeah
provided an event isnt ongoing
events has historiclly been notorious for delaying zuiq world advancement 
anyone know why sometimes in worship i cant click the upgrade arrow even when its there?
sometime it wonky
move your player so the tower is further away from any UIs
he just keeps trying to pathfind where the tower is
have you tried clicking elsewhere on the tower?
and yeah sometimes they do that in the proccess
I got to w4 and upgraded my classes Now im in a dilemma. Push more or time to go back and get full amaroknfor all chars and farm mats for alchemy and anvil 3 and cooking and lab
get amarok gear on your DK
push to W5 
until then throw everyone in lab and try to have killlers brightside activated so your Dk opens portals 2x faster
also just print mats instead of farming them if you are talking about skilling resources
And breeeding😂
what about it?
dont focus too hard on it
passivly work on it whenever your in town i suppose
you can push to W5 easily without breeding and cookingheavily worked on
Im new so everything is overwhelming im researching 24/7 😂
any 5 players willing to dance in 24 wiuth me, asked the party finder, but its dead
w4 town*
yeah it be like that
Eh, sure. What server?
best thing to do is just try to push to W6 and play catchup as i assume one pushes to W7?
not too sure how the pushing works for a player nowadays past W6
im in carrot 2, but no one here
U cant use the characters when in lab right, is there any benifit?
you light up lab nodes?
aka a huge source of vartius buffs such as 2x portal/DN kills or a wopping 3x speed to refinery cycles?
need 4 more at carrot 2 to help dance
youll need to get used to lab jail
becasue there is also div jail
and hole jail
I didn’t look too much into it because i didn’t want to occupy my chars when i could be pushing with everyone
Oh really damn 😂
W5 makes it so when linked to a certain god you are always active in lab node wise but not exp
another god makes it so you get both lab and div exp whilst in lab
You slow yourself wayyyyyyy down, lol. There's a lab node that speeds up pushing. :)
Gotcha
just push with DK
you dont need to push anyone else atm now that you ahve all elite classes
My only thought would be maybe an autoattack modifier skill is set to activate (360 noscope or ice shards) which will cause problems with a lot of click interactions.
yeah killers brightside like i mentioned twice lol
2x portal kill and Deathnote kills
tis huge
there is other stuff too
ill try again sometime thx for trying
but that is great for pushing to W5 quickly
and then in W5 you get nobi which is another 2x to kills
wrong guy
which means easier time pushing to W6
Some days it only takes seconds to get 5 - you'll get it!
pizza 1 tends to be higher populated afaik
esp during lava streams or new updates
so chances raise higher then
We went there, and it was full, but no takers.
thx for the advice, didnt realize he even streamed
damn
he does rarely
only mainly on new update drops tho
i see thanks
Sometimes I'll just run across people dancing in W4 on some server, and I dance 'cause I figure that is what is going on. lol.
I will be at Emperor tomorrow morning, if I don't forget to set up my active AFK.
noice noice
Trying to save about 4 days of time candy, lol. I have been pushing damage all day. Still more things to add, but I got sick of it. 🤣
unrelated/semi related
i find it amusing that i could probably be at emp in about 20 or less minutes but instead torture myself to only reach it in like 2 years 
lmao. Yes, and we all wonder. But it's fun to watch! 🤣
W8 gonna release before zuiq done with w6
ello swoldier 
so true 
lava told me behind closed ceilings that hed only release the W8 boss once i finish W7 
i shall be the downfall of this game 
Your big problem is going to be trying to "finish" Caverns before going to W6. lol.
gambit can go die in a ditch 
lmafo!
Does "fisheroo reset" get reset when i do "Greatest catch"?
it does not.
it i s wise to only do 1 fisharoo reset until later in MFs
like past 16 or so
Do it once at the beginning and then only when you're pretty far advanced after that.
there is roo guide in pins somewhere
Though I screwed up a few times and hit it accidentally, lol.
Its good enough, i just wanted to know lol
There's a guide pinned at the top of W1-W2
You have to do it the first time in order for points to work correctly (or something). But pretty rare after that.
well its better than wave 6 like the fist time i did it XD
that layout...
I hate that map.
really inneficient i know XD
yeah tbf it is kinda annoying
so manyt short platforms
I mean...I just threw crap on it, and had high towers so made it to 79 or something, but it's just freaking awkward.
the bosses never move though which is nice XD
so few places to stall
That's exactly it.
my entire bottom is just stall and roll xD
thanks to void grrr
yeah void is nice... lost to the first green boss last time at
I only wanted 50 (for equinox), so I basically ignored it and quit leveling stuff up when it hit 50, and still got to 79. (Void tower helped.)
i only want 5k souls for the bag XD
I did that to get the vial, just went to 20 (early days) and then it sat there for months, until a week-ish ago.
Tyty
I have been slacking and not doing worship
Beast master is better for pushing waves bc his root talent and kick
ah yes
the 'oh shit oh fuck oh shit oh fuck' talents 
i mainly only use them when the above mentioned situation happens 
I just use him, auto, click next wave fairly often, and cross my fingers. :P
you can't use baloons or pearls for breeding exp? :O
no
damn :/
at least it is shared levels
oh right
youll get used to it soon. for the future is not bright 
at least you can balloon cooking
are there any other skills you can't?
you can also pearl lab tho it is kinda mid effect wise imo
apparently maybe all of the W5 and W6 ones?
Can use both for trapping, too, I discovered...late. I was always using the MSA, never occured to me I could use pearls when standing in a critter patch.
trapping exp isnt an issue now tho with early turtles
But I only had a few levels to go at that point. lol.
its wiser to spend ballons to cooking
becasue unlike trapping
you cant really afk cooking exp.
All my balloons are belong to cooking, yes.
all your base are belong to us 
You definitely can AFK cooking, but it's really annoying and non-productive to do so. lol.
i said cant really
alright
youll sit at cooking for about 5 months to get 1 level.
its so fucking slow even with stable foundations
turtles?
baloons are the only reason how and why i got to lv 100
yes. the trapping critter, turtles/
they are particularly good for xp?
yeah'?
okay
they are the best for exp esp when matched with nature traps
they are the final critter type after all
youd see that if you clicked on them to view stats
lastly, how the heck are you supposed to use the taste test skill, it doesn't sound that good and has a huge cd
you dont 
lmao
its just kinda mid and exists
there is a way to use it but its ehhh
at least its mroe useable then charge siphon
which you never use becaseu it robs your Vman of first place
i don't think i found the map they're on yet :?
see?
just use trapping drone?
you want your vman in first place for the efficiency boost and then farm on the other character?
first place Vman = hoigher prints
make sense
i'm about to unlock it i'm missing like 3 salts
o7
at elast you ha vce 2DBs i g
sadly ive gotten to the point where they sorta fall off
their still good for synth tab
but for combustion i get at most 20ish minutes on red 
what does cooking efficiency do btw? more speed?
quicker ladels iirc
hmm
ngl
that isnt a bad amount of ladels
i could def use some more
but gmush kills...
not even gstack, are you even playing the video game?
Except at very low levels, when you look at the AFK screen, there are a certain number of ladles per hour listed at the top. Until your efficiency goes all the way to the right in the bar at the bottom of that popup, the ladles per hour won't change. Then they jump several ladles.
tbf
i havent afked kitching since month 2 of W4 
weakling
as you can see
this is quite a nice number of KPH
so youd understand why i am reluctent to swap him to the kitchens 
(its my BB)
to the kitchens you go
Eh, all my peeps are basically at the same level, so I wouldn't have to use BB. But I'd rather do Mmush and Col, because I am lazy.
ill probs do it once i hit 1T
Wow, I need 20k power statues?!
oooh thanks
my BB does like triple the kills of other classes 
BB/DB is Thee afk kills class

esp with its monster decimation talent
wht makes you say that?
I mean, I don't have to use BB in the kitchen to get ladles, because almost anyone is going to do close to the same. lol.
stuck at crabs till i get the last vman weapon and luckiest lad tho sadly
damn smg
only 7T?
not even 1Q yet?
and you call yourself an idleoner?
for shame.
monster decimation my beloved 
Good. That sounds really awkward. lol.
BB has higher cooking eff which is why id use him
fair enough
will probably get back in to it all once w7 part 2 releases
fair fair
perhaps ill bne W5 by then god willing lol
id say you have arround a month till the next update which i presume is part 2
oh shit next update might be part 2? D:
till then ill be stuck on endfield and 2k
im not ready!
id assume so
I still have two unclassed beginners. If I stuck them in the kitchen for a day, they'd make somewhere between...12k and 15k ladles. Though right now I'm trying to get them to 500 for equinox. Otherwise, since they are useless for anything else, they work for stuff like that. Still prefer Col/Mmush, though.
I need to save 20k statues for the Onyx thing. If I lock them in an inventory slot on my char, will they get deposited when I use the Deposit All at the statue dude?
No, they won't. I put one statue on each char, locked. :)
unsure but i put all my kapow statues on my storage slave no.1 locked so i dont on the off chance spend them if i accidentily depoist all
because their very annoying to aquire very very slow

Oh boy, should I start setting those aside now?
If you lock them in an inventory slot, they won't be donated when depositing statues. :)
I put mine together when I was hunting for DR obols, kind of did the statues in the middle of that. (I did all obols for all chars, so it took a while.) It requires crystal carrots, so if you don't have choco chip yet, I probably wouldn't try it?
up to you lol
just knwo your main source aside from the 100k you get from statue bro is very small amounts via daily questions and other sources
If you DO have choco chip, just add poop and genie cards, and whatever DR cards you have, and hang out at beans. :) Needs to be done active, because crystals only spawn when active.
good to know
crystal karrots dont drop kapow tho?
unless lava changed that?
they dont?
No but all of your characters can do the 20k power statue monolith quest, and each get 10k Kapow.
yeah but after that 100k kapow the sources are very limited
so its best to wait on spending kapow until you onyxed everything
lol. By the time I have monolith done on everyone, I'm pretty sure my other statues will be onyxed. You'll probably be a lot faster :)
oh i onyxed everythign within a month or less iirc
oh wait monolith
I previously searched for/read that you can't "skip" onyx, so might as well get those first 20 done, and hang onto the rest.
ill probs pre monolith everything that isnt kapow or W7 statues
i never said to skip onyxing kapow though?
i just said wait on spending/depositing kapow until youve onyxed everything
No, you said wait. But I'll go ahead and drop that 20 when I have it. :)
that way you have max deposit wait
no, i said wait on spending your stash
not dont onyx it lmao
You have to drop 20k. You can't drop 100k there, so far as I know. The onyx is exactly 20k. lol.
you dont seem to be understanding what im saying
you get 10% deposit bonus statue per onyx
dont deposit kapow until youve onyxed every statue including kapow
I don't, lol. That's fine. When I get 20k I'm going to onyx them because...it's gotta be done anyway, why wait? shrug. Because it's me, it just would give me more time to screw up/accidentally deposit them, and THEN I would be crying. lol.
you can have a level 0 onyx statue i would know for i briefly hada lv 0 onxyed battle axe stamp
idleon players smh
cant read lol
I guess I'm not being clear. When I have 20k Kapow, I'm going to drop them in front of the statue to turn to onyx. I'm not sure why I wouldn't. :)
i never said dont do that
in fact that is optimal to do as soon as one can
i said dont deposit your kapow statues
deposting and onxying are two enterily different things
I won't drop a single other onyx beyond that 20k, because of the W7 stuff.
exactly
that is precisely what ive been saying the past 10 mintues lmao
Same. lol.
just onyx kapow and wait to deposit them until ytou have large statue gain
then why did you keep on attempting te refute my statement 😭
just onyx kapow and wait to deposit them until ytou have large statue gain. I will wait until the W7 statue. lol.
That's the part that I disagree with.
I need help getting to round 115 in the pet arena for the cloud mission
large statue gain = all onyxed statues and most statue deposit related bonsues?
like the vial and the bubble n shit
I'm not going to do it until the purple statues, whose name currently escapes me. lol.
zenith?
Zenith.
i cant remeber does zenith boost statue depostit rate or only effect?
but 25% each 
ah right it boosts it from 10% per to 25% per
Ooh, it's 1m though. I won't be playing that long, so I don't have to worry about it. lol.
1m def isnt that bad
For kapow?
shit i didnt mean to do that
o7 my flesh
i dont think lava wants us zentihing kapow.
Did you good a good roll, at least?
it is the exact same as pre roll 
Ah.
My statues are pitiful. The only time I ever have farmed them is for the monolith quests. lol.
at least i have a 25% chance to get 56k kapows whenever i end up gamba ing
How do you figure 25? (lol, I think I have a whole 3k-4k of those. :P)
becaseu if you put the statue you want above/below/wherever it was below it the odds of getting that statue is instead changed to 25% iirc
That's a weird mechanic, but I'm all for it! lol.
its a hidden mechanic i suppose
still25% is better then x%
What does this mean ?
True. I'd go for it. Except since I would need 1M of those, then...probably not, lol.
exit and reenter map
you messed it up or desync lag broke it
You might have switched screens before the fish finished redrawing at the bottom. That's when I get that.
Oh i actually o change Map for real lmao
yeah it litterly said that lmao
RE ENTER MAP 
i just tought switch between clickers
ah right that exists now
I never was on his map
still needs a fresh change to fix it
Don't even know where it is haha
W2, off crabcakes
Soon tomoroww i get those 20k
what a grind
At least i have frags for when i farm those pop obols
I feel like I'm having a hard time managing and ramping up my salts, I have all the mats for it but im just running out of the actual salts, is there a trick to it? I'm waiting to pull them until I can level it up

4 dice per rol now noice
dont overrank and youll get there with time
!refinery
The refinery will produce salts on a cycle as long as you have the required materials in your chest when the timer hits 0. In order to increase the rank of a salt in the refinery, you have to let your power bar for the salt completely fill before refining.
Oh ok so you want your power cycle to be above the next levels production? sweet thanks!
thats a huge help I bet i over leveled lol
you can also use IT to tell you easier what to rankup or not rankup
You need to have the W3 Merits. (That's what makes those numbers work, otherwise the salt required will be bigger than shown on that graphic.)
!it
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yeah I'm maxed on that
if its red or higher then the cycle
dont rank it up and fix refinery
Ooh, and my green finally fixed itself this morning. Long couple of weeks. lol. Finally making pink and void again.
I have all mine ranking up 
same :D
i wish i had panda sooner :D
That's where I'm at currently, but that isn't my norm, and I do not have Panda. lol.
Ah, cheater, no panda here
how do you have all of yours ranking up 
your going to eventulyl run into overranking
where in the idleon toolbox does it show the refinery? Im just seeing cards, class builds etc
Mine are because I stalled everything because of the green problem, so easy to rank things now.
the login buttion that indications that your not logged in
:
you need to log in lmao
oh lol ok cool
lol, I started to give instructions then looked at that menu and went...wait, what?
yeah 
Account->W3->Refinery once your account is loaded. lol.
but it will be in account > W3 > refinery
omg ive been using this all wrong the whole time 😂
ah you beat me to it lol
I had it typed out and then looked at the menu, so cut it, so in my paste buffer. :)
Well, you see... I havent needed em for long time, so I dont care if I overrank
I'm still down quite a ways (red is low 30s or something) but it dawned on me today that the biggest use of red salt is making salt generate quicker (alchemy), which...seems pointless after a while. Be a very long time until I'm where you're at, though.

red is great for increasing build rate :D
well
good
not great
squire talent
True. Though by the time my red is high enough to worry about that, I'll probably be mostly done with what construction I'm going to do, lol. I mean...if something is going to take 2 months, and that would cut it down to 1 month or something...same-same to me. :D (I'm so freaking lazy with this game; it's sad.)
Are there any cards that help with breeding (that aren't passive) ?
Though with the prisma bubble seemingly bugged, maybe longer... been disappearing for some. Mine shows prismad but I lost bout half my construction build rate, assuming bc of that
uh oh
i hope mine didnt get bugged
unrelated i want a refund on my str bubble prisma 
how was i supposed to know the linear bubbles that have stayed the same for over 2 years would suddenly change 
I'm only pulling up the one (passive) on a search. Let me try it another way. I never tried to use cards for it.
Trying to eek out every bonus I can for these little guys 😛
you can card double the one passive card i think maybe?
Oh, there are quite a few bonuses. There is a list at the bottom of the breeding page, though I usually use IdleOn Insight (even though that's messy, lol)
Ooh, that's a good idea!
question
Though that card is just experience, so not particularly helpful.
do i focus my jman on mining or chopping
yeah there is bigger sources like W5 lamp iirc
which is easier to achive first place in?
i dont even know
Meals are what I used at first. Lots of of meals affect breeding.
!it
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or just look at which player has the highest mining/choppping skill
he has 2.5k mining effi and 2.3k chopping
If you use the IT link that Zuiq gave you, click Characters at the top, then click skills button (below, left), then click the check box to show 1st place, you'll know who is highest in each skill.
oh my lmao
He's gettin' closer, though!
after that all i have left are these 
However with breedabikity finished (for now) shiny leveling rate should skyrocket seeing as over two thirds of my fenceyard is breedability lol
This is your Maestro?
jman
These are the only six that you need to worry about. Looks like no trapping on this guy yet, but you can do that with divinity pearls (if you have them) or balloons, so that'd be quick.
IOH SO THAT WAS WHAT PEARLS WERE USED FOR
And you were wondering which of mining or chopping you should work on first...since you're second in mining, maybe that one first, get it done?
They are great to bring everyone up to L50 in cooking, lol. Eventually, all of your guys need to learn all of the skills, but for now, you just need these bonuses. :)
lemme check if i got any
Divinity pearls only work until L50, and balloons will work after L50, which is why it's good to use the Divinity Pearls if you have them. (Neither of them work after W4, and the only W4 skill they work on is Cooking)
i'm not sure i understand gaming, are you suposed to colect everything all the time or will plants grow more if you leave them for several cycles?
They evolve if you leave them for a bit. They have a chance to evolve each "growth cycle". And I was told when you collect, collect all at the same time, but to collect cactus first manually if you have them. (I'm not sure why, lol, just what I was told :) )
alright
You can see what evolutions you have in the log book. You can see the time for your growth cycle in the middle boost thing under the Fertilizer button.
thanks !
NP! It makes more sense as you go, kinda. Don't forget to use your Mutation->Research button.
And if I could stay up for 5 hours I could go to W7, but I think it would be smarter to go to bed, and active AFK until morning. lol. G'night :)
wooo i'm starting to reach the stage where printing ramps up and you only do farms to set sample or lvl up, feels nice
how bruh
first ever greened stack wooo
mid game really is, did i forget to change talents/cards/prayers simulator
200 and some in an hour, I'm finally becoming decent (This was with 65% multi chance)
You mean the rest of the game post mid game?
I'm gonna say I average 140-150m statues an hour
rip
tamaaa 
its not 1 full week yet
i gotta decide if i wanna push my armor set up since im pretty much locked in w6
try summoning
or maybe push caverns first ig
im pushing everything since those r pretty slow for me rn 
my caverns doing ok, i just got to lamp
it only took my db like 1 day to get the w2 splicer but the w4 is still not droppped after like 4 days 🥹
at least im actually getting breeding progress somewhat
woow, pro tama
nice nice, I guess working on weapons is smth u could do
im still rocking void gears 
gear doesn't matter much
I meant armor* das why I said push weapons
Is there any additional benefit to collection traps via the drone using my hunter, or should I just use Eagle Eye? I don't want to change anything, just collect and reset.
just my assumptions but since drone is based on eagle eye u can both increase critters by improving bm and the drone upgrades itself
im still very blind to these type of info 
Who the heck is this
The drone is literally based off of the eagle skill
Except you can also access it on all characters
?
You look like Nya... But you're not...
I am indeed nya
happy?
And you arent fem bean or whatever
Happy about what
You're still not NyaBuns(nub)
Or whatever it was I again
New year old tusk
well you changed yours too
Quit hating on the mama
Nuuuu I used to be this
I'm back to original
sur eusre
Quest mean this afk or i need (pic2) afk on character?
looking for friends to send me bonuses, im account lvl 476
best way to farm golden hampters?
DK at tremor wurms
Guys, i have 1k green gems, which pull is it better to make?
Lemme hop on the game
Wahgamebooli is my username, come to salt 3
Which town would you like?
pic 2
Candy at stilted or crystal farm with DK at wurms
or AC wurms for alchemy at the same time
Thanks
Yeah but no one likes AC
false
Question, does the eggscellent pack give breeding eggs or what exactly?
i hope AC burns in hell
AC should become heater 
based AC enjoyer here
I LITERALLY WAS
hey guyss, what do yall buy
u got 3rd killroy?
bought out the balls?
yeahh, and doing my second Killroy run, so 1300 more soon ( around 2600 skulls in total )
idk lol. just put into anythig. u gonna needs
from this row, the gallery is the most worth it?
yeah
Ye
does killroy skulls disappear if I don't use them this week ?
MC drops is 0.01
Its bugged some say
no
yeah, I did put in that but not big change in multi
so will skip that
I think it does not multi with other multis
dumb question on capacity bags..... if I have two that I haven't made yet, one increases 50 and the other 100, can I make both, and increase capacity 150 (cumulative), or will I only increase 100 (the larger value)?
Nevermind, found the answer on the wiki, it is NOT cumulative, so only make/use the larger one
The artifact chance and the masterclass drops but alson3rd killroy first but you can go more ways like do refinery to grind the levels of it or arcade balls
yeah, you can skip tiers if you feel you can reach the next one fast
I had Anvil tab 2 bags
then upgraded to Anvil Tab 5 bags
skipped everything between ( we can call it neglecting too XD)
It
s easy to neglect things, there are so many features in this game, if you kept up with all of them, you'd never actually progress on the maps 🙂
yeahhh
I recommend hard neglecting stuff and just push to W6-W7
after that you can catchup
I did like this, and my progress is cool
yeahhh, I did a Slab run when materials were not a problem anymore ( everything 1050M in storage )
idk why but whenever i am fishing and i teleport to another area i just CANT MOVE
ordo anything really
is that normal?
Maybe a skill was trying to activate when you teleported or something. I'd just open and close gemshop to see if that fixes it
1 slight problem non of the buttons work
basically my dk was fishing was gonna tp to colosseum when i tp tho no buttons worked had to restart the game
btw is this good enough to let him afk
it's a start!
also is the no button working a bug or a problem with my pc
@unborn dome use shrines
What are shrines to be exact
W3 construction, last line. They are building you can place and that give bonus to every character on the map. They level up with AFK time claimed. Later on, you will be able to level them up from anywhere, and have their bonus be account wide (W4/5/6/7)
oh so thats what they were
Use this to place them. Note that they lose EXP when moved from a map to another.
I just got my beast master what should I put my talent points in for combat/skills
Is there the equivalent of the hat rack but for capes ?
how do people get this insane amount of skulls
By playing for a long time and currently in w7 we have a 6x killroy skulls ballot
i build them but where are they
You need to progress the quest given by the big ice-cream cone in W3 town to get the talent iirc
ohhh
I can't read, I thought this was minesweeper and got confused
!talents
Having issues understanding how to best use your talents? This guide should be able to break things down. Use the tabs at the top to navigate to whichever class you're currently struggling with and it should become much less overwhelming.
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
guys should i candy w3
In the pet fighting feature, how do I unlock more than just two spots to put fighting pets?
Arena, in the territory battle tab, at the top
I'd say pushing through it normally and keep candy for W5 push after divi/lab jail
Sorry, guess I'm thick.. Don't see anything labeled arena or territory in the pet breeding UI
lemme get a screenshot for you 
thanks!
Mb, called teams, but has the territory battle for spices. Top right, you have the arena. Beware, it has a CD, but BM has a talent that makes it so you can entre without putting arena on CD
ah got it, thanks!
LOL. that's why I didn't see it before... have to be level 8 to see the arena button 🙂
OK, next newbie question.... I've read the beginner's guide, says to use a barbarian til you reach world 4 (worked well, that was my 1st char), and then to swap to a ES in W4. Problem is, my ES has WAY less survivability, so I'm still pushing with my barb. Main issue is ES has WAY less health, and I don't see any easy ways of adding more
You have goblet of hemoglobin maxed? Potion can add some health too. Food can help. Get amarock armor for more def too.
Goblet is maxed at 35, I use food, haven't checked out potuions. I have the amarock suit on the barb, but I have the set on the smithy, so all chars should get the bonuses
The point isn't only the set, but the raw stats from the armor, especially the def. What armor is your ES running?
Say, maybe just share your IT if you want, I can give it a look
Oh, good point on the amarok! Misc stuff on the ES right now. I was looking at health to increase, and didn't see any armors which added it, so had skipped upgrades for now
Will craft some amarok for ES and look into the potions
thanks!
Also, make sure to slap armor stones on the armor itself so you have even mre def. GLHF 
yep, been keeping up with the armor stones 🙂
well this got me by surprise
meritocracy seems like a bait
More skulls sounds nice but you gonna cap balls before that 4.6x even does anything most likely
Rough chat
I have 2 characters that are not showing on the list, can someone help?
i might need to log into it for the killroy ngl
masterclass multipliers
or even just time candy spam potentially
5 skulls for a random candy
i got like 500 from a single dk run, thats 100 free candies
3 skulls for 1 guaranteed crystal spawn, could spam out a few hundred of them too
idk what the other choices were but still sounds like a trap
this one is mid at best too wut do you mean
which explains how mid the others were
if we took this the others had to be doggggg
people do dumb votes all the vote, like how shiny critters are winning rn
cause this isnt even any random in world 2 can vote these people have gotten to world 7 and gotten demonflesh etc
theres at least 1% of a brain in there
starsigns should win probably for the bonus droprate
Who gets that far into game and needs shinies for vials
might be farming shinies for potential future recipes trying to like max stack or something potentially
Sure, but star sign is tangible immediate gain
i should definitely do a spelunking run soon
kekw
ayeeeee we sitting at the same 
that also means you havent done a run in like a month
I ahvent really played that game in a month in an active sense
I even let my wisdom go to max
i want divinity points to come back again
You dont need books if you dont push fair play
true but im also at like max checkouts and half my characters are still 100 maxes lmao
max out one of each elite class then let the rest afk
all my guys except dk are farming wisdom hours rn
have never hit 24k hours on it
welllll time to ruin my WW's potential like 1500 afk moons
im at a point where I crawl for more progress mostly. Nine dart and luckiest lad are going to be biggest boosters to numbers
and exotic market too bc its still new

exotic is the only reason I reopened game bc they dont grow when offline apparently

How i upgrade the non green pets
Wdym "upgrade"? The pink pet can be put in petyard to have them level up the breedability multi, increasing the chance for next pet. You can put shinies in petyard too, but they give account wide bonus instead of next pet chance
Like the green guys gave the green upgrade stuff
How i get the rest
Oh, splices? Like, what you gain when you afk in W1?
You need higher level splicers (this, last slot in tools inventory). The recipes for this can be unlocked (C.F. screenshot)

welcome back jake 
i bought the food thingy on world 3 task and it says on the seoncd purchase unlock food slot didnt give me my slot bru
you gotta go to a different map
it'll refresh your slots
oh
What map is next to unlock more pet territory?
does this mean, build rate bonus cogs are bad?
their effect is significant, but yes, they are bad
damn.. i didnt know XD, just realized
time to replace them with player XP 🙂
one more question, what is this? is this necessary or can it be replaced
gemshop - 4 cog parts that create a big cog when placed correctly. It isn't necesary, it can be replaced.
Thank youuuu
just use basestat xp cogs instead of that
thx festive!!!
though its bonus is quite great
does it mean, i have to buy 4 times, in order to get 1 set?
btw is htere a easy way to delete a lot of cogs?
or do i have to manually click one by one to delete
no
no npc gives you w4 boss keys daily, so no
np
Is it normal to not hit 100% eff mining platinum when I'm in late w3-early 4 or am I missing something?
if it hasn't been answered, each spiritlock is a new map

also ello jake~
it can happen if one neglects
you can be in W6 with those stats and you can be in W1 with those stats
there are many sources of mining eff in the game
like alch is a big one
another one being str and warrior talents
My bubo has 30million damage now me happy
almost come on
19k power statues damn
3 days i'm farming them :x
congrats
thats a long time :/
wait u left too?! 😭
ello nya
But my poison can only do 11% of the damage I would've done so still in thousands in world 4 🙁
Only my gloves aura and skulls do a million+
I was in london for 3 weeks for new years and my phone wouldnt let me log in because it crashed every time I loaded up a character
eventully youll do millions and even potentially trillions like me
wonder what my bubo hits for
Before I knew it I had like a month of afk I didnt claim cause I was waiting for the meritocracy
its always been my weakest player dmg wise since elite classes
damn
Ooo noice noice
but ripo
How much % damage does your gas do
I wanted to log in every day for the kattle and things but no luck sadly
faster refinery cycles my beloved

indeed
can never have enough
and when you do?
well your dk can always use more dmg :D
Nice
yo how many maps in w6 are player gated like u gotta have 3 character there to unlock tha?
are u not fixed yet
any tips for cooking?
idk how it works and what to invest early on, new recipes takes ages to cook.
is going for "new recipe speed unlock" cake good thing?
do yall think the update is this weekend
I got back to my pc now though so doing daily log ins but just not grinding as much atm
I am alive again dont worry, just havent been that activeb
You're not
You've ignored my two best achievements (by far)
come play torchlight, its on mobile aswell
There's literally only one thing left to do
become arpg player
Which updateeeee
Well, three
Oooooo whats it like?
1-3
What did you get doneeeeee
its arpg, u go in map, u clear zone, grab loot, earn money, repeat
upgrade character, do harder content, repeat
w7 part 2
You such an idiot for not knowing this smh. Follow up on the LORE.
How active are we talking, can I just click to the map and itll clear? Or do I have to do each one?
In fact the first thing is so far I can't even find the screenshot, it's getting emp wings
Actualllyyyyy I congratulated you on that one
its not idle, its 100% active game
Sure buddy...
At the time it happened aswell
What Charisma to level after Hustle and Rizz?
Got second tab, and I'm days away from last cavern
Ahhhhhh, maybeeee, im not much of an active gamer atm ngl
understandable 
Niceeeee
Oooooooo
Wait I'm wrong
Also I will be somewhat loving and leaving you all again, stopped in for the pings but I will be in the chat lurking in and out but watching The Rookie atm
You got thisssss
After that I can like, measure dump opals
opal dumper
Got another opal and used a lantern
That's like under half an hour wait time
In fact
Thank YOU toolbox
It'll be done before 7pm
Suggestions for the Breezy Souls TD? The guides start at 190 levels (which I don't have on ANY TD) and I'm only trying to get enough to drop for vials. lol.
So how do I get more shiny critters? I have the royal traps on everyone and the shiny critter prayer active on all my characters and I set it to 10h but when I claim all my traps, I only get like 10k of the shiny critter that I choose. What am I doing wrong?
Cuz I catch em all bubble? (Full disclosure: I do 20 minute silk runs when I'm trying to get shinies, and don't use the Snitch, so I'm not going out of my way to max it.)
(And I'm assuming you already used the library on the Hunter talents.)
what does this mean for the equinox challenge? "Greenstack 20 different items in your Storage Chest"
I’ve neglected that bubble. It’s only like level 430 lol. But how much of a huge difference would it make to level it even to 1000? It’s not a HUGE difference. And yes I’ve maxed Hunter talents
Probably not huge. :)
Like if I’m doing 10h and then collecting and only get like 10k shinies, how much SHOULD or how much do people normally get? Like am I missing something immense?
Small thing - your multiplier at 10 hours is 38x. It's 4x at 20 minutes. If you grind 20 minute traps, you should end up with about 3x more, but it's a PIA. I read and do cogs, lol.
But this is a great question, and I'll shut up now so someone can answer it. :)
And like I said I have the prayers on for every character. It says it lowers the shiny chance by a LOT but that they drop in bundles and every guide says to turn it on.
I DO have the regular critter of the shiny I’m trying to get filtered if that makes a difference of the amount of shinies I may get. I have them filtered because if I don’t, picking up the shinies behind all the normal critters takes a couple hours if not years lol
Clicking cogs hurts my soul. It’s one of the few things in Idleon that I dislike grinding lol
It's horrible. That's why I also read. lol.
No time to read. Too busy clicking cogs!
I can do it for about 1-2 minutes at a time. 🤣
Of if I may ask, how come you don’t use the snitch prayer?
lol, I'm kind of a slow player. I will eventually, I'm sure. I just hit W7 today because someone nagged me into it a couple of weeks ago, but other than that I mostly do the stuff I find fun, which wouldn't be trapping, unless I'm in the middle of a good book. 🤣
There are also two shiny alchemy vials
And a stamp.
does getting over 100% do anytthing>?
Just like me. I’m super casual F2P and I take it slow. But I tend to not capitalize a lot until I realize I need something and I neglected it as a whole.
Like gaining 200+ lab levels in 10h’s. Things like that.

That's exactly it. :)
when is it your guaranteed? 
70.....
23 more days
Mine is...I don't know how long (I'm currently only at 50%). The issue is exascerbated by the fact that I rarely remember to check. lol.
I was really good about it during Christmas, so was at like...20 days by Jan 1 or something? Whatever it would be when you only miss a day. I'm up to 31 now. lol.
It means to collect 10M of an item in storage. It'll show like this at the bottom of storage:
thank you
np, sorry that got lost in the back and forth. :)
One weird thing to consider - if you have made improvements (e.g. bubbles, talents, etc.) make sure you delete and re-place traps. I'm not sure what all boosts require that, but I know that some of them do.
when placing drone traps, does it take into each characters trapping efficiency or does it use the active charaters efficiency for all?
For constellations that requires afk, is it collective or all at once?
Like if it requires 16 hours do i need to come back in 16 hours or does 4x 4hr time cand work?
Afternoon everyone
Afternoon
All at once. 4x 4 hours wouldn't work.
lol, or you could just wait. :)
16 hours, just put a few characters to bed early, and don't check 'em immediately when you get up.
Too late, already time candy 
(Though I'm super cautious with my 24 hour candies, 'cause I don't have that many.)
I basically spent like 0 time candy since i started playing this game might as well start now
I only have 11 left of 24 hr candy
I used a bunch jumping from W4 to W6 with multiple characters. Then I found out that the two that I brought all the way to Tremor Wurms weren't the ones who because AC, which requires Tremor Wurms to get. It was expensive. :P
17 here, and 7 72-hour. (And 6 of the variable ones.)
I only time candied my first char to W6 cuz i wanted to start the w6 skills
While i go back to do stuff like constalations
lmao. I got there and went...this doesn't look fun. I have done sneaking, barely touched farming (though finally starting to work on it a tiny bit) and did summoning for one day. I mostly wanted the MCs, so candied people to the point where they could get those, then sat on them for three months. I take slow-playing a little too far sometimes.
my idleon summon got bugged and cant click towers what do I do?
Sneaking is going well, though.
Summoning or worship?
Summoning, I place towers but randomly I stop being able to click them
Spent 0 time on farming basically, i just get on claim then leave it alone lol. Sneaking i just let it do its own thing mostly. Summong i just get on to collect and upgrade for the points
Ah, as I said, don't do W6 summoning, sorry. :(
Alr but Its W4 lmao
That's Worship then. (Summoning is a different thing. :) )
Hum I dont remember now but you click a totem and can worship or summon
Sneaking I finally got Sneak Mastery, so waiting to see how that turns out. lol. Looks like I will switch it back for a while at first glance. :D
There is a w6 skill called summoning
Do you have points?
U can click towers without points
Were you sitting at the top floor for a while? I’m not there yet but I’m only at rift 30 but floor 10 😭
I think I got to the top floor almost exactly the same time as I got rift 56. lol.
So Sneaking Mastery drops you back down to the first floor but the door is then some unholy amount and your sneaking skills are tanked, lol.
well maybe one will slow down and the other will speed up
Just opened the first door, so wasn't as bad as I thought.
My best nunchuck does 1.133B. lol.
does over 100% do anything
Didn't someone already say "No" on that?
@meager matrix i wouldn't ping if u if this was important because i don't know if its a bug or glitch exactly so how is this single guy regaining hp every second he is regaining 1b hp
Looks like "nope". :)
eh be happy u can hit it i aint even got enough sneaking to hit the e60 ones
The multiplier brings it up to 18b or something. I do give nunchucks to everyone on the off chance that they aren't knocked out. 🤣 Will probably go back to regular for a while, though. :)
i have more then enough dmg i just cant stay without getting knocked
He shouldn't be
Sounds like a bug, as his green coloring (if he had it) is definitely missing
I have one character who on that third floor (with everyone else having various necklaces and stuff) is 4%. Counting on her, but at 320B it's gonna take a while.
Were there pink enemies near it that may have healed him?
i got stuck on him for 15mins cuz he wouldn't die i had to switch it up to kill it
nop it was just this one alone
How odd
it didn't go down from 56b untill i switch the kraken for lightning
and his health kept going up
for 56 to 57 to 58b
What if some of ur towers are traitors and healing him? Can't trust anybody these days
That would be a very interesting if unpopular game mechanic.
wait, what is the rule if this is not minesweeper
I didn't look that hard, but I'm not sure there are any.

click square, pray its not a pipe bomb, score is determined by the number
It actually made me sad because I love minesweeper, lol. The name is copyrighted but from a quick (unthorough) Google search, I don't think the game rules can be. It's a shame, because I like puzzle games. This is more like a gacha.
same, if I could play minesweeper as a W7 skill
my happiness would go big
but Spelunking manually just makes me sad
after the 1232522. run
Just hit W7 this AM, and haven't tried it yet.
there is an "Auto" button, but Lava forgot to code it sadly
so if you use it, you troll yourself
so only manually spelunking is a way 😭
wait really?
ye
ive been autoing this entire time am i trolling myself
yehhh, everyone told me, and I tested it too
you get waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less amber if you AUTO

I just finished the rift npc quest, should I use these items they feel special but I also kinda want to keep them xD
imo use them for some good stuff
lol, does look like an iphone box, though. :)
Upgrade stones huh? xD
there is no reason to keep a giftbox type item in your storage
I guess they gave a bunch of them out during that event, looks like. (I think I have some summer stones from last summer, not sure they're great.)
Well time to use them XD
Summer was my first event, close to when I started, and there were kind of no instructions. So I kept all of the coolers that I happened to accidentally get in my inventory until 2-3 days before the event ended. 🤣
Missed out on a lot of good stuff due to ignorance on that event. :/
18 gem letters lets do this
type of shi- activity, as waiting for new update from lava
this is a stock since Christmas event
That's worth it. :)
WHY DO YOU HAVE 6K GEMS IN YOUR STORAGE

I have about 1600 + 2800 in storage.
Have you sold 69 gems to the world 3 shop yet :3
got this in shop
and 6.2k in stock in storage XD
so 12k in total
Nahhhhh too much
yeahhh, cause too many gems
But I'm trying to keep it down to 50 cents a day, lol, so I can buy a pack soon, and then I'll have more.
Well time to use all my... 500 gems xD
Do i get the rift npc quest on all my characters?
Cause if so il put my barbarian to grind lose tv batteries
you got a Gem shop tier list ? to know where to spend
Nope
I just buy what looks cool 
I don't have an up to date picture, just found this :
ignore the red lines XD
make sure to have all S tier and then think about A tiers
How are daily minigame spins over food slots
Prob cuz i pushs you foward in content by less time spent skilling
Unless you really suck at minigames, particularly the catching minigame, and are trying to get Maestro...then get more. 🤣 I get 17 plays a day, and I don't do minigames. :P
I wish I could have more food slots than I do.
only one minigame purchase is good to have
so you have daily 9 minigames
instead of 5
and it costs maybe just 200 gems
but ye, I bought all food slots really fast, cause that is MUST NEED for endgame
150, 200, 250, 300
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
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Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
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