#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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Blue is just lab bonus active, yellow is just harriep, purple is both
That's so nice !
is it worth maxing printer sampling star talent?
if you aren't hitting max printer sample size (90%) then yeah
If you don’t have 90% sample rate yeah
ok ty!
Whats the best spot to farm for power statues so i can unlock onyx statues?
Do you have the setup for crystal farming?
i'm not sure what is all needed for that. i have crystals for days star tallen at 100
i have the chocolate chip
poop card is at lvl 4 and genie card is at lvl 2
my cresent shrine needs to be leveled its only lvl 1
is there anything else i'm missing?
Looks good? Wanna max turtle vial
was this message directed to me?
no
asking in general
does it look good, since i wanna max the vial
beans
if you want to max turtle vial just put everyone on turtles
is that cause there are so many of them?
best area for crystals (most efficient area coverage for DK)
gotcha thanks a bunch and should i just send everyone there or just active farm with my DK?
active farm with dk bc you need both the orb and crystal mobs
crystal mobs are your main source of statues
ok cool thanks a bunch for the info
i too want to get the other critters aye
How exactly do statue coupons work?
random statue
Like ik you can buff chances of getting a certain statue but putting it next to
But is it like all around it? Or just above?
random statue, but you can slightly buff the chance if you put a certain statue above it or smth i dont remember
Will be unlocking Mantis god today, finally hit a 100% sacrifice
Probably gonna work on some sampling later this evening
top bottom and both side. coupon in the midle
i got like 20k more kapow statue doing it 🗿
personally i gamba kapow. since coral can be farm but its just abysmal drop
but i dont even have enough coupon for 1m kapow lol
so its up to u
prolly onyx coral if u need it
but nothing more
Pins in #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
tyyy
i'm farming for power statues at beans in W1 if i filter out the other statues will i get power statues faster?
It’s just for declutter, odds are the same
new dmg source for me!
I have better equinox stuff to go for first though so I wont go past lvl 5 or so for a while
soon
if party dungeon queues fuckign worked Id have this much earlier
u can try #party-finder-👪 for happy hour
or ping me if u want
should be able to try for a carry

ig next happy hr is at 8pm my time
my problem is getting a party bc half the time it just freezes at like 2 people
the find party button is a fraud
I shouldnt fucking need to though
thats my problem
find party is very jank cus u get put in a party but not in the same server
Its hassle enough as is to remember to do it
so u wanna spam dungeon?
Thats arguably worse
why?
then what do u want to do
im trying to help man
why tf is that a feature, you cant actually start ur run unless all on same server
u cant enter the dungeon unless everyone in party is in the same server
Yea thats my point
why tf is that a thing then
fuck if i know why. its lava coding
I think thats been the cause of my problems then
bc of the last 10 times ive tried it ZERO got a party within 30 mins
thats why its easier to just fucking ask in here and get into the same server eith the party already gathered and not hassle with the jank
k
Just got 1 shiny out of five 60-hour traps, I'm never getting this new build tab huh
I only ever did a party for an achieve(party member wasnt even online but still counted for quest)
my 10th char is still a beginner should i just wait for new master classes 🤔
What traps are you using
I was using wooden, and didn't realize the multis on that weren't for shiny, set up silkskin now
Yeah there you go lol
That was weird. Yesterday I was talking to someone about Cooking progress, where I was still missing a few ingredients, and some meals, and I had nothing over about L33 or L34.
Today, in about 15 minutes I have all but 3 meals, all to my current max of 60, and just need to get two more spices and a higher max level. (Not including whatever was added in 7, ain't there yet.)
I used one ladle. lol.
Missing that one key for too long - like diamond chef or vman talent
Ahh, both.
I had Diamond Chef already, but I used my last Prismas on it yesterday, forgot that.
i just dont know what class its beneficial to have 2 of when i have 2 es and 2 dk
btw. the longer trap doesnt mean more shinies. its just mean better odd of finding them, since u just set up silkskins, and u get more than 1 for those if u set the long hours one. try setting up 20min traps and see if u get any shinies. if u do, just spam 20min one till u have enough for what u need to craft
Does anyone know the formula for library book checkout scaling? I want to be able to calculate how long it will take to get back up to 20 checkouts
As you get higher max levels for your skills it will become a thing. Higher levels increases knight duration
You can check this on dashboard on IT
Yes. I don't know the exact breakpoint for that, but just keep on grindin away and trying to get higher max library book levels, you'll get there eventually
Thank you! I was looking for a standalone page under world 3
Anyone up for W3 dungeon? I need last boss for Equinox
huh didnt know that was a thing... was trying to achievement farm while watching youtube XD
probably shouldnt have been spam claiming just 1 and 2 spices at a time then...
Vman has a talent that adds 25s to the knight's duration at talent level 225
im going to have a LOT of spices by tommorow when it resets XD
it slows down the more spices you have
looks fast now but youll likely cap at like 1k or less
Very important question is it every world that you unlock a new class for your character cuz I'm on world 3 I haven't finished it yet but I can't find a guy that offers me a new class
????????????
there is one in world 1,2,4,6
Okay thank you
What does my total pet power need to be to win this one? I won the one before this with a little more than half of what I have now, and it was 1.7b. So I figured about doubling it for a 3.2b would work, but hasn't yet. Just wait for good RNG, or does it need to be higher?
just spam 20m silk traps 
god i am hoping that whatever system this is it will be accessible to be 
because that is clearly in W1
lol. When is W5?
soonish
in under a few months 
sometime a week or three after i finish the last strech of breeding grind
By April 12th. That's my birthday. lol.
also soon ill be able to start leveling primordial shrine 
Just spam this you will win
your unintended bday gift might be either early or late dependent on fate 
Thanks! lol, I didn't wanna just do that for 2 hours and THEN come back and have someone say "Oh, you needed 10k more..."
for refrence on my current breeding progress
(some of the less useful ones will be pushed to 7 instead of 8 so that first page is slightly less daunting then it looks)
You can make it more consistent by manually using shield but that comp should get through whatever pretty easily
ye i assumed it was there
im hoping it isnt locked to W7 or W6
or W5
summoning stones.
I should work on those, but I don't. sigh I think I have droprate and infinite starsigns, and I haven't even gone through all of the pets yet, which is pretty sad with Doot.
worship TD o.o shrine things 
probably wise ot wait
theres ones in W3 as well
and i think also W1 and w2?
memory fogger on thsoe two
I will keep trying, fingers and toes crossed, though it's hard to type that way. 😉
foggy*
the W3 one is in the top area of hte map
with the EQ BBones and Drams
i belive there was a list pinned somwhere
maybe W6 channel or something?
i had a full team of around 100k to beat everything including world 7
I think they were 50-70k on average for that one
not sure what actual total power was. not even sure how to check that honestly xD
It tells you at the top of the battle. :)
So that one is 134k.
i had no idea xD
But yea manual shielding is key for the last battles
also unrelated
the fusion of W6 channel made the W5 and W6 channel lose all its W6 related pins :/
Eh, hand eye coordination issues. I guess I'll wait until I can get really high pets, then. :)
not sure how much you would need for that.
But i only really needed to time it the first 2-3 attacks from the enemy. after that i just click on cooldown since everything is frozen most of the time anyway.
And the last couple i lost the 2 front units and won anyway
"the hole" guide in #1084911530417606656 has a bunch of w6 stuff. might be what you need
well thats just in a fourm post and not in the pinned messages 
that is what i said yes
i was just commenting on the fact that they never reposted the messages andb then pinned them before deleting the old chat
(atleast thats what seems to have not happened)
Between the severe lag and my current vision issues, that'd be unlikely for me. But plenty of stuff to do, and it's only 3 W6 dishes that I'm missing. :)
that is usually what happens with merging ye.
pretty sure one channel gets demolished when you do that
very fair (:
Worth maybe spending like 20 min. at some point restarting until you get it ^^
its just renaming 1 channel and deleting the other yeah
unfortunately all messages get whiped alongside pins if you dont manully paste em over and pin them again
its not that rare?
depends what you think about rarity.
There is a clear list of when it shows up
Again on February 5th, though. :)
imo the Omega Duo is much rarer 
i saw a little thing that said its rare so i thought it was
Whats truly rare is omega
man i wish i had more 
sometimes it is.
When it goes out of rotation for a while
When will omega APPEARRRRRRRRP
not exactly
more useful then others kinda yeah
more rare
not so much
its anyones best guess seeing as rotation is kinda shagged or something atm iirc
Yeah
omega nanochip is on febuary 12th
motherboard on the 19th
will it actually though?
Last time I saw that it was ‘supposed’ to run, it wasnt even there!
this is exactly why i say what i said lol
Even without the chip upgrade
I believe whatever IT says
probably depends on what you have already
sadly IT was also wrong
I have no trust on that
So you have a 50/50 chance or something, of getting the one you want?
its dependent on the one w6 jade shop upgrade yes
however it doesnt seem to be working right
I should have never bought that chip upgrade
if you dont have hte jade upgrade you cant get omega chips without gamba ing
(The last time I saw a double, choco chip and something else, a person who was dying for choco chip got the other one, while most people I heard from said they got choco.)
Nvm
afaik that jade shop thing converts 2 or 4 chips into a different type
in this case it should convert galv into omega after aquiring that upgrade
for me poker chip showed up yesterday.
Might be when i got the emporium upgrade.
But it was choc chip at the beginning of the week
however it doesnt see mto fully work
its a bit broken rn and hasnt been fixed afaik iirc
Fuck poker chip, I want my 4th choco 
i have 1 poker chip and i do not care for more 
chip gamba
I have 16 gems on the dot.
chip gamba.
chip gamba is how i got my omega chip and omega motherboard 
I dont even have winners bonus maxed yet 4/5
also, get to doing daily bosses and w1 miniboss buyouts
(litterly the only way to get it for me atm)
Honestly, I'd rather have had the Poker Chip. Most of my peeps who carry choco chip NOW really have no use for it, lol. I still buy it every time, though.
always need more choco
except when you have 100
as long as choco > 10 you need moar
Two of them are mostly in moments or the lab, lol.
Get 15 chocos, eat the rest

no
need at least 80 
future characters
1 to equipt
9 to eat
id bet on at least 12
both of you, read again i made a typo 💤
still need more
40% nothing 
we are idleon players.
we dont read.


lol ello k10
we read it correctly at first tho 
Eh...crystal is Active, can only active play one player at a time, soooo...I have 5, and as I said some of my guys don't get out much.
laziness :D
(also untiul you have a BIS on everyone filled)
(which will take a while)
Two of them don't even have attack bars, Zuiq...though I did finally find out how to make them take a sample, lol.

ngl
i am unsure about the current state of my 2nd presets on my players
i uh
aside from Vman
i do not genuinely know when the last time i used them were 
and i do not know if W5 will change that...
outdated samples.
my samples are outdated but due to a different reason lol
But then someone told me a few days ago that you can press control Q and get the attack bar, so at least they CAN take samples now, even if those samples suck.
this is kinda why i dont use 2nd talent preseets lmao
i will resample before W5 dw 
its too annoying to use up all the attack bars lmao
3rd one is skilling
1st and 2nd are for combat 

at least that is what i do
Do you know on how to get very big blade for divine knight
Is this what you're thinking? You can bump the max level up at the library.
Yeah but mine barely gets high
I can’t get a high level
What level is it?
126
What does that do
That raises the max level of book you can get from the library. So do that, then raise the level of the talent and your boomerang thingy will be bigger.
How to get the world three merit one?
By finishing W3 tasks on the W3 task board, and then spending the merits required on the merit list in the same interface.
what is the next char I make, got 6 base classes, plus mman, plus another squire
Yes
Thanks
Since I have a chance to get 4 mail a day on days I only get 1-2 mail I just get the chance better safe than sorry with this lil shit
(I dont have that atom for him yet either)
Not doing that yet. :D
I mean its just an easy daily goal for my stage
Never seen it. At some point I will!
I'm still working on my nugget size. I gotta remember to visit equinox...I mostly ignore that, and now there's something I actually want. lol.
nah, id rather have exp here 
actuallyu??
its addative isnt it?
really bad ballot this week 
Ohh, I was trying to figure out WTH that was. Yeah, I don't even make the one party dungeon all the time, so I might get that once.
welp this makes getting 1k of all crops I have easier
Weird that mine are higher.
I dont have good ballot %
...
I don't even know where I have ballot percentage. But I thought that was for votes, not the boost, sooo...lol. There are a lot of reasons I am bad at this game, and that is only one of them.
this game would scare idleon players
... yourself. lol. I look at that maybe 2 or 3 times a month for less than 60 seconds, lol. It wasn't until you posted one with a checkmark that I got it. lol.
What is the best way to get Froge ? To put traps on all of my characters there ?
no clue I just get a metric fk ton of themby existing
Is this your first trapping? So you can't use silk traps yet?
fr though critters/trap is a latergame stat but % critters and souls from vault should help
Thoses are better traps, not another feature, right ? 
Right. They get shinies as well as regular ones. But if you're just starting out, can't get 'em yet, because you need a poison frog I think.
Yeah I need thoses Froge for construction so it's my first trapping
Don't worry there are a million new systems you haven't come across yet in various parts of the game
million being hyperbole ofc
kk, that's what I thought. Just make everyone set cheap short-term traps on the frogs, and check them on time. It'll take a little bit, but you'll snag one, and it is pretty smooth sailing after that. :)
(You'll get regular frogs every time, but you want to also get a few shinies for better traps. :) )
Since I'm doing that, can I/should I place trap elsewhere as well ? 
I'd just start with lots and lots of frogs. You can't buy a new trap and also set more somewhere else, if that makes sense. So if everyone's traps are at frogs, that is all they can set right now. :)
You would need to take them off frogs to put them somewhere else.
I just got everyone cardboard traps at the store, psycho checked 'em every 20 minutes, lol, until I also got a poison froge so I could upgrade someone. The silk trap will always gives some shinies (like the poison ones) so easy to get everyone silk after that.
(It's a real PIA at the beginning, but there are game mechanics that make it really easy later.)
For some reason my barbarian is too low level to equip trap, is it normal ? Didn't seem like a problem with the other that I did so far
Let me buy a cardboard trap, sec. lol.
No idea. It only requires L1.
And is good for all classes.
and it should be by default at 1 on every class ? 
Cardboard traps always require L1.
So anyone can equip one. What happens when you try?
wwwhy is this one character bugged

Weird. Let me do a quick search.
Did you try cloudsaving, then trying again?
what is the next char I make, got 6 base classes, plus mman, plus another squire
Or, at the Frog traps with that character, use an experience balloon.
I made two beginners who are still beginners. I wouldn't recommend that for most people. lol.
That worked, thank you ! 
Awesome!
Hope my journeyman's still grinding iron
Btw why do I have so many dementia bars if I never could mine dementia
like I got at least 400 bars of it sitting in a chest somewhere but don't know where I got it
Colosseum chests most likely
Btw question should I get a blue pickaxe via snatching the gold pick form my jman and making my dk mine
only if your jman will be able to use the blue pickaxe
I can't check him rn cause he's on my PC
Idleon efficiency lets you check your char's status in real time iirc
if i recall correctly
Aight
Gold chests is Chillsnap for the bars, I just checked.
Arrivederci
@sleek pollen
how do i get multi kill i wann abe able to kill thousands
Increase your kill count & dmg, also some artifacts/bonuses you unlock later on
how do i increase my kill count, and what are artifacts
damage, multikill per tier, kill per kill upgrades
artifacts are a world 5 thing
wait what, my damage is at 191k, and how do i get multikill huh and kill upgrades
im in world 3
alright so
lets say we are talking about green mushrooms
they have 10 hp
each multikill tier is double of the last
20 for 2, 40 for 3, 80 for 4
it caps at 52 tiers
oh okay
there are upgrades that increase the amount of multikill you gain per tier
how do i even aquire ts in the first place though?
where?
you are way to early for multikill
youll actually be wanting to hit multikill in world 6
oh okay so i dont needa worry about it rn
whats your kills per hour on your furthest map
i wont ve getting to world 6 for probably 4-5 months lets be hnest
1.1k
i dont remember
oh
in a week
W6 in a week but you spend the next 6 months catching up on mechanics
pretty much. i took my sweet time and got to w6 in a month 
me rn desperately pushing trying to unlock w7 with only 4T dmg 
lol
thats so much 💀

goodluck 😭
4T 
world 7 enemy hp ramp is huge
its like a 30x ramp per map
3.6T to be exact
basically im never gonna rach world 7
i do like what, 90billion crystal damage and i dont even hit 100mil an hour on the final map
I'm only at a couple hundred crystal damage right now and I'm not pushing w7 anymore lol
so glad i caught up on dragon statues, 140x crit damage 🎉
imagine having m at the end 
lowkey expected you to be further than me
im on dk crystal farming lol
nub
idk what to do
I gotta work on a lot of stuff like masterclasses and bubbles/stamps
gmush
Oh right I also need to get 1b kills on everything
wassup
helo
hiyo 
oh wait yeah i need to do w7 deathnote
idk if mobile is bugged again or what. i got lik 300+b kills on vman. orim just mathing wrong lol
that's 3T

nub
ah make sense now. yeah i math wrong
rn my chars are dragon statue farming, and also levelling to 1100 while i just crystal farm on dk 
smh
maybe i should just div/monu jail
but kinda want to wait for ballot/meritocracy if it ever hits
basically half done 
better than me
thanks for reminder gotta check my db
yeahhhhh i think ill just put everyone in monu after this
is it worth
gonna submit like 100m dragon statue before i do lol
u have 500 more than me lol
sure 🤷♂️
is it with minecraft enchanted as high as possible?
yea
damnit
i should do some enchanting too
minecraft only level 8 lol
prob not optimised the most, i could reset collection and try again
I took my sweet time and got to w6 in 6 months
killroy skull drop
better than wtf w2 ballot gonna switch to
Ugh. There's a reason I ignore breeding. Time to go do something fun again. :P
what is it
class xp isnt… horrible
Chances are I would only do the dungeon once as the party dungeon, if at all. Though I guess I solo the party dungeon every once in a while, but that is rare.
(A lot of weeks I forget to do the party dungeon. 🤣 )
havent done them in ages either not only you
I keep planning to...
been like 3 weeks since the last ender capt. and this is what i get
should i even buy him atp
ive omni everything


and then after you have all ender caps you minmax their stats
for the love of the game!
i wanna minmax them now by not getting this one
the ones i have rn either has loot value or rare chest. i do have one with 2 speed 
the question is which one do i even replace???

someone with speed
your boats are upgraded enough that you get minimum travel time right?
yeah lol im just sedning them to end island for the sailing xp
all red boats
guess ill start with the mix one that has low loot value
in the end it won't matter much since you have all artifacts, your only chasing after loot anyways.

its addative though isnt it?
i dont know, we will find out and see
if its multi its pretty good but its world 2 ballot so its additive 90%
hi, if i am mining, will i also get exp for construction as long as my character is on the cog board?
yes
perfect, thank you
ok, so i just dropped platinum shins (pants) from w3 colosseum, do you guys recommend to accumulate the tickets to try hard a specific colosseum (in this case, w3 for me) or do randomly?
why do you want to do colo?
-# anyway, save your tickets for later when you're going to farm for gfood or other things 🤷♂️
feels like a good opportunity to get all monster cards and sometimes rare drops like these - im very early game so platinum pants randomly was awesome for me lol
Honestly save colo tickets and just keep pushing soon you'll be able to craft plat set like it's nothing
well even then the odds of cards and maybe the rare drops aren't high, and the amount won't be as well
you're better off farming the cards of mobs at their maps, same for rare drops
the plat pants sure but I reckon it's not the full even that drops
but hey do whatever you want it's your account 🤷♂️
What should my talents look like by the start of w4 guys?
okay, thanks both
any specific strategy for the 1h boost item in cooking or can i just use to discover new recipes freely?
At your point in the game just use freely
welcome to div grind/jail
yeah frfr
but fr though ur chars will be freed up from mandatory afk grinds from here
they get choices
req: arctis
Hi what class for 9 slot?
divine knight
if you did journeyman for 7th and sorc for 8th
pretty sure this is the way
I think im ready to get a metric fk ton of flurbo
Why i need 2 elemental sorcerer?
it makes dootless less annoying
Alr
where do i check my shiny chance for traps?
its the % u see next to the critters when u choose a trap
oh i need to go there directly i assume
if u got the w3 trapper menu
it shows there too
where
just there
If I'm going to go play with Breeding on my Hunter, what cards are good to use?
nothing. breeding isnt affected by cards
Oh 🙁
breeding lvl is shared across all char
which means. u can do breeding on anyone. doest have to be hunter

most of BM's talents are account wide afaik which is why you dont really want 2
pet power ones and breeding exp are for everyone
i think arena entry is player specific seeing as it is a buff skill but the general dmg boost might be accountwide
unsure about thgat
only reason to play as bm if u need eggs. but u also need vman for that to even happen
or if you are Zuiq and are force leveling shinies and breedability in W4 
unrelated
i need someone smarter then me to answer this
as i could be wrong or calculating incorrectly
hows ur shinies and breed?
yall know that for refinery
the longest cycle you will every have by technicalities will be the 22>23 rank up cycle
and after that it just gets faster and faster due to rankup req being the same but production being increased
does the time reduction on total rank up cycle get lesser and lesser as you rank up more and more provided your cycle speed stays the exact same?
here is the answer to your question fazer
u refine more per cycle each rank up. so even if ur cycle speed stays the same. total time to rank up does get reduced
yes but the reduction amounts
very minor
I think it does because of the power cycle upgrade from what ive seen
for each rankup does the amount it reduces
increase
stays roughtly the same
or lowers
I do have panda tho so its hard to tell
panda just makes you produce 2x salt per cycle making overranking not so much of a problem anymore
as long as you just leave everything to rank up always youll be fine now
ur power caps at 1m. so when u rank up. its just mean u will get to 1m cap faster
Yeah and im so glad for it. I remember refinery on my first acc 2 years ago. Wasnt fun lol
for refrence
i mean like this
Yeah ive done that quite alot but not ebough. Red salt only at 11
thats a roughly 1h decrease
the rankup before last i got almost 1.5 hours i think and i had the same rates
you always rank up red and green 
and if you have panda just keepeverythign to rank up and youll automatically be fine unless you refine early
its kinda self explanatory no? more rank, more salt made per rank. less time n cycle needed to hit 1m cap, faster rank up
for refrence the rankup before that
yes but it seems to be slowing down i think in terms of reduction per rankup if that makes sense
however i could be wrong
Need couple extra pixels to read that
Yeah imma rush these actually so i dont need to have ppl in lab
Is there a guide for clash of clans with mid tier turret by any chance? Can only find max turret guides
Cans* lol
and the rankup before it
Super cell?
as you can see i think the amount of reduction per rankup is decreasing?
i am unsure
thats why im so confused by what ur confused about. i think it just works the way i said it?
parent company of CoC and CR and many other games
like i dont think i can even fine anymore cycle reduction spd now lol
Ahhh lol unfortunately I need super towers atm
oh wait
i mean yes it is getting quicker and quicker
however i was trying to figure out if i am getting diminishing returns on time reduced per rankup
He is saying his previous rankup gave another 5 minute reduce than this one will
What is your cycle time?
i think i am getting smaller and smaller reductions each rankup atp
no. u dont. u will always get faster. i think personally mine are under 2h to rank up now?
i dont think you are understanding my wording
its like
100-10
90-9
81-8
etc etc
the original/total number continues to go down more and more
however the amount that is reduced each cycle seems to be dimishing to me if that makes sense?
so u mean the total time?
the other rankup with the same cycle time knocked off -1h30m~ time or so
and this last one seemed to have only knocked off around 1h5m~ or so (numbers may be wrong, def nto exact as i didnt directly count them but it seems noticable that without taking each number it is going down each rankup by less and less)
yes
i think u can forgo that? thats basically the total time to hit the cap which also mean rankup
its the same thing
its what is used to calc ur fuel i think
this calculates how long until cap is reached
this is my fuel lol
yeah thats my point
total time and time to rank up is the same thing
even in one of ur ss. it shows rankup time being the same as total time
sorta yeah
total time is from 0%->100%
time to rankup is xx%->100%
im refering to total time
total time tells you how much time a rankup will take from 0% to 100%
im trying to figure out what the rate that total time gets reduced per rank up itself
i hate that i struggle with explaning things clearly
i wish i could word this better
Number go down
okay so. total time is affected by cycle spd, and rank, so for example in ur case. u sometimes see a huge big reduction. it could be because u got some cycle spd reduction
the simplest way i could try to put it for myself to make it easier for others to understand my logic is
each time you rank up
total time goes down by X amount of hours/minutes/seconds
X amount seems to be getting smaller and smaller with each rankup
i might be crazy
but i think X amount is getting smaller
it used to be like
-1.5h to the total timer
now its close to -1.1h or so
i could be wrong tho
and as for sources
i have not gotten any cycle speed in a month or so
the only time was during the 1 ballot
we have stamp, rift, and the salt lick
construct mastery from rift give refinery speed
so if ur upgrading building u could have gotten some spd there
hence why i am saying
with cycle speed staying the same
why does it it seem to be decreasing by a smaller and smaller amount each time i rankup
yes it is still decreasing
but the ammount that it decreases seems to be by a lower amount
good point on the rift i forgot about that
but in theory that means i should be slowly increasing rankup time decreasal intervals
but i am not which means that i am slowly getting smaller and smaller reductions to that total timer i think?

i dont have stamp
took a break on salt lick hence why i said what i said
i have indeed been upgrading buildings but its getting slow lol
so i have very minor construction level refinery speed cycle increases
im sorry i am struggling to word 
no worries lol. im also struggling to comprehend why ur losing reduction
i saw ur ss. its 1h25 then 1h20
its very small
like it should increase reduction but ur reduction amount is decresing
for refrence all these numbers come from my documentation of each red rankup
yeah now that i udnerstand it does look that way
hence why my orignal question was if it was a sort of diminishing returns kind of thing
can someone with a S starting username say 1 star, game sucks! for me in game?
it could be? i never notice this cus i dont pay attention to it. i only ever paid attention to fuel time. as long as thats decreasing. it means im making more faster 
ive been documenting it for red salt each time ive ranked up since rank 21
i only noticed becasue as you know ive been in W4 for a while and i know aside from ballot i can never lose refinery speed i na sense
it should only in theory become quicker and quicker by the same amount or greater amount each rankup
unless its diminishing and then it would be by a lesser amount each rankup
damn lol
unfortunately we dont have the same amount of refinery cycle speed modifiers lol
the smaller the number the less accurate the results sadly
i have maxed out the salt lick. stampt is too expensive but basically my total refinery spd from all the sources i can think of is 638%
including rift
yeahhhhh
salt lick isnt that bad imo at least
i say that because i hit the longest rankup for orange being roughly over 4days and it will just grow quicker and quicker lol
ill have it in probably around 50 rankups or so
(maxed)
(at most 50 rankups, ill prob be in W5 by then which has the stamp which will make cycles even quicker)
well since ur documenting this. u have a bigger sample size. so can only wait and see 
i dont document current refinery speed cycles tho lol
these all had the same cycle time i do know that
becasue i upgraded under 10 buildigns in those three days that these were taken a part in
atleast u have from rank 21>r50
thats should be big enough
construct mastery i think 10 lvl building only a 1% increase
my cycle time has been decreasing since then and i dont document cycle time each rankup lol
it is as you can see here
i have 338% with 3384 total building lvl
i hit 3385. still 338. lemme upgrade another and see if he rounds up
oh nvm i just saw
at the end of the day
this isnt a big deal
its going to get quicker and quicker
but i was just quite curious as to what the math problem that would be
(forgive me foir this i suck at math)
actually never mind i am not going to write an equation too much thinking with a high likelyhood of butchering it
i mean it does tell you that 
im too sleep deprived to notice
fair enough i too am tired atm hence why i was outsorcing brain power to this chat 
i need more TBR 
no nullo yet?
what makes you sya that?
ur not upgrading primordial shrine
give me another slot and i will 

also nullo isnt really a problem for me atm
(i will be losing 100k to traps soon tho)(but even then i have more then enough for other uses)

oh its just the hud lol
oh wait im stupid that whtie orb is a part of the voidinator icon isnt it
my tower lvl are kinda overkill atp, poisonic elder is 100. void is 66
and i dont even have wave 200 on goblin td

thuis is where id put my voidinator
if i had one
(/ref)
also tbf
more tower levels = smol refinery speed, dmg %, and build rate% boosts 
i have a perk that causes crystal enemies to respawn when killing one. but i dont remember where i got it from? can anyone tell me what that perk is from and can it be leveled up?
ahhhhh yes thats it thanks haha
to bad i cant equip another :/ been grinding all day to get 20k power statues i'm at 13k
tis one of the best lab chips imo
at least for anything crystal or exp related
agreed it is quite nice
if you could one could probably sustain eternal crystal summons lmao
even if it wasnt 75%+75%=150% lol
Gets easier higher crystal spawn you have adds to drop multi once you hit spawn cap.
crystal chance caps at 10% now right?
my current crystal spawn chance is 140% :/
or was it 20%?
how tf?
I honestly don’t remember im well above it at this point
thats like 1 in 0.6 or something mob kills to crystal
all i know is he originally capped it at 1% or 5% and god that was awful thankfully he changed it to a larger % cap
5* demon genie and 4 star crystal carrot cards
ohhhhh
differnet system got it
Oh that guaranteed crystal spawns adds to the multi if you weren’t aware.
my card setup
oh?
wdym?
i meant as in there is +% and then there is actual %
as you can see
Like you can get guaranteed crystal spawns adds bonuses and if you already are at spawn chance cap it adds to the drop multi
gotcha yea you said something about eternal crystal summons but idk what your talking about with that lol
i am saying that the reason why you cant stack choco is becaseu eventully your screen would fill up with insane amounts of crystals if each crystal mob had a 100% chance to summon another instead of 75% via Choco
the daily crystal spawns?
idk how to get to this screen?
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Yeah that bonus there are a ton of endgame upgrades that add on to it
you can also just check tome on the current player to see it in a much less clear manner
afaik the only main upgrades to it are from W7
namly the one zenith or other thing
and the one legend talent that streaight up multiplies base count lmao
W4 has some as well
"some"
Better than none 🤷♂️
its just the task ones and the sigils one lmao
That sounds right I think lab expansion adds one as well
true but it is about an ant's size to a house that is w7's increaes lol
you get a total of 5 daily kills in w4 if you get all sources.
To be fair there is no reason to farm crystals if y’all are hard stuck at w4
i'm about half way through w6 rn so i have a while to go till i'm at w7
unsure about W5 tho
i think maybe you might get 1 or 2 more from there?
how else am i to reach level 600 in W4?
What’s your farming at im curious
Bruh

i just unlocked carrots so maybe lvl 11 or 12 ive been on it pretty well just taking some time
(dw almost everyone else is only around a bit over lv 500)
If you can buy the extra farm plots in gem shop it is huge
i bought 4 of them but i'm out of gems
Not too bad im at like lvl 800 or so currently
Just gotta keep running plinko and guild gifts or be a sweat and boss farm to get more
ill prob be able to hit 700 in W5
it adds a lot of stuff after all
esp hole
god hole is going ot be a grind
You bought packs or sum?
your talking for getting gems?
div is going to be easy
idk about sailing but gaming shouldnt be too hard
ive gotten a few but not a lot
but for refrence this account is years old
I maxed out at lvl 600 in w6 with 0 p2w
That was pre W7 tho
lmao nice
to be fair
i am doing that but without W5 and W6
yes i have bubba and some other stuff that wasnt back then
but still 600 for W4 is a decent amount
Also if you haven’t been grinding the hole and sailing you might get hard stuck
i cant grind what i dont have.
Oh right right my b
if i had W5 unlocked i would not be confined to 4 players out of lab lmao
(i need 6 players in to activate all nodes and jewels, yes ive gotten all currently available connection range sources)
ive been grinding this game pretty hard for about 3 ish months keeping up as best i can with everything
nice
Could hard focus kitting out one character to push and then work your way back on the stuff you skipped
i refuse to unlock W5 until i am ready 
It would be easier to work your way back cause you can dual level divinity and lab
i got gifted doot so it will go hard indeed
what are you waiting for then? because of doot you can just pop everyone in the lab and get lab exp and divinity exp/points
this is pmuch my gear loadout on everyone rn
sans the emp rings, some players have emp rings some players just have serated rex rings
Boss gems are boss gems tho
so i dont really need to "focus on kitting out 1 player''
lmfao thats way better gear than my guys. i'm working towards void for everyone and a few have the green pieces
You are better kitted than what I ran I just had that purple armor
oh im done with lab exp im far past lv 200 on everyone
ill just level bubo in lab with goat god and everyone else for a few days until i hit lv 40 or whatever it was for W5 then hole afk grind jail them
They are only for the most dedicated 😔
the dang dense water is holding me back so hard rn
yeah about 8 times out of 10 that is the case for me to others who arnt mid W7 yet 
its so anoying i wish i could just farm it haha
100 gems in exchage for about 20-30 mintues of your semi full focus
So glad I don’t need sense water anymore
i dont really need it either afaik but i continue to buy it
ill gstack it one day
these too will be gstacked one day.
speaking of which i need to go do my daily shop buyouts
another +2 to the stacks of fishing lines 
You can just crystal farm most of those lines I do believe
Not reg mobs crystals have all the rare loot table drops for their respective worlds
so is it W5 or W6 or W7 crystals that drop them?
becasue none of the W1-W4 crystals drop any of those afaik except the golden ones
The different lines should come from their respective worlds crystals you might just have really low dr
i do not have low DR lmao
What you sitting on?
well yes low compared to late game but there is a chance tha ihave more DR then you lol
my DK is sitting at over 50x rn with DR cards and other stuff
On dk I hit 137 without cards
crys in 11.46x dr
oik i have less then you
but i definitely have vastly less then the fabled Qwaser lol
Nah 50 is pretty high even 11 was insane back when i started
W2 crystal doesnt drop any lines
neither does W3 crystals lol
Rip knew atleast w4 does that’s what I farm
What’s your helium atom at currently?
mine?
Yea
Then why do you got no atoms dawg
Oh soft locked
rip
Can I get someone with a charectar name that starts with a P or S come to world 1 pizza 1 and say 1 star, game sucks!
but a large stockpile for my standing
You gotta escape w4 none of that stuff is going to particles currently
Pizza 1? Bro, do yourself favor and never play on that map
no they are
sorry i dont have any characters with those
Oh cap is not at 1050m you right
anything past 1050m gets atomized collider or not
If you have collider yeah idk about without
Yeah that’s a good place to start, well sleep calls. Good luck on joining the w5 club lol
yea
w5 entry will be huge for me lmao
ill zoom through a lot of stuff for the first month or so
aight sleep well
and one day i will join the W5 club too 
I saw on the wiki that there is a way to reduce the number of meals needed to upgrade a specific meal, but dont see a way how to? anyone know?
maybe food lust?
but its a bad eq upgrade you shouldnt get it
also i think richlin kitchens do something too but most players get 2, 5 at the very very max
nope my b
mainly just food lust or whatever the EQ uppgrade was called
which is % reduction up to a %
for every random event boss you kill iirc?
unsure about any other source of this kind
if there is
its a chance that its from W7
but i dont think there is?
For yondergreens vote is active afk (leaving game screen on fine) fine or do I have to actively click on the penguins
hey can anyone point me towards a good spice farming setup?
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whats the multiplier for golden boxes in construction?
It's okay to active afk for yondergreens quest btw
what class can get the fastet kill count for opening portals in mid game (w4 towards w5)
World 3 prayers are wierd there is 2 prayer one gives kill per kill but takes away dmg and the other gives dmg but takes away acc. And def. Both work with Total Damage but for some reason when its about taking away 50% it takes away 50% but when its giving 100% its only increases by 10% shouldn't the one that gives Damage be instead of Total damage just Additional damage named to avoid confusions?
I went with beast master as archers are easier to get higher dmg and maintain acc but otherwise warrior berserker has 2* the kill per kill talent that can lunch you forward fast so i would say that would be the fastest provided you have the damage and acc to actualy do that...
Dumb question, can you split stacks in your bag (not using storage)?
Not sure on pc right clicking might work
It doesn't 🙁
alright thanks ^^
In world 4 you open up new classtalents for each class which are cool thats gona help you progress a bit faster...

I also went with archer beastmaster at first but i feel like around elite class unlock it falls behind in terms of kill speed :)
the remote capture is awesome though
Beast master was the most underwheliming class until it got a master class so
interesting, when are master class unlocked w5?
W6
dang
Their quite good just gotta active grind alot
i'm terminally unemployed i see that as a +
I don't know with uwu rawr and whale and balista and arrows beastmaster was good to push until master classes and from there i just made bubo with lv200 tentaeye i got to world 7 by lv 560 classlv as highest on bubo not having finished pets from w4 cooking or atoms not to talk about any progress in w5 aside from getting to godranks lv0
so before w6 should i switch berserker as my active play character for faster progression?
I got to world 7 just by pure farming for alchemy tho 🤣
Tho getting to w7 whallamus buffs and being able to suppertalent was crazy boost
Yis i like the crystal spawn upgrade makes me have more then 400 crystal kills a day with the choco chip
I feel like crystal mobs are over rated 🤔 other then statue drops why would you want to farm so many of them tho?
Cranium cooking

It can increase the craniun cooking into the 100k easily
Well thats also true dunno why i talk i got chocho on my bubo too 🤣
I got choco on all my active cherecters 
I wasn't that lucky sadly i only have 2 choco but i have one on my v man and one on bubo so far
Crystals are nice for cranium cooking and statues or special loot depends on world like golden food or water
Why on your vman 
Crystal Countdown ig?
Because of the double drop chance to farm crystal island on w2
Ye but it still will be more efficient on other cherecters like dk
Oh thats a good point go on
I rarely play dk or any other then bubo i have my orb flag and elemtals count on such a low level i am ashamed of the stat tho 🤣
I saw on the wiki there's a way to reduce the cost to level up meals but I can't seem to figure out what that is
But its not like i can't switch if i want to play dk at some point and i will as i will need obols sometines soon my dr is about 7* with is very low i gues

You can level up meals to a certain point with some of the mcs forms db specificly
From my knowledge, the only way to reduce the cost of meals comes from equinox
Awesome thank you
Is it worth investing in food lust at all? Seeing how hardly the equinox bar feels already?
Any level in anything helps
I got fairly far in meal levels just thanks to vman and atoms
Nah, only one points imo, since it scales badly and slowly
Cool then i might invest one too
Just don't put points into lab connection range like me 
Dunno by the time i found out there are equinox stuff i had my lab range maxed by far 🤣
Tho i should put chars back in lab because my lab lvs are only about 40
I only have to reach 75 so that all the chipslots are open but for now i don't even have enough chips to have a reason for opening them slots

Dw, lvl will scale well with W6 since you get free jewels for getting high enough level, so getting started now is a net +

any chance to pass sheeps in w3 with AC only 350 talents?
350 only arcane crystal cuz I super talent it, the rest around 300
tbh just wait till you have better talents
you are going to get stuck easily on like 3-4 more maps
shaleth i use these on my jman
Jman ?
Ive never heard that way if calling him ngl when are you upgrading to maestro
what?
all?
Do it
elemental sorcerer is insane :O
Go to a gold ore itll give you more xp
i need anew pickaxe
lemme guuesshes a sorcerer of the elements?
his respawn mechanic is insane
Wizard branch
Go on another cherecter other then your vman on it couse he needs more xp then anyhtin
Use warrior to get new pickaxe & journey man as a xp grinder
Btw if u use ur point in str in 1st page it can give little bit buff
other might be good too but it is incredible how little investments it require
JMAN for journeyman bro
Im saying the highest ranked name of said cherecter couse its the easiest to do
oh
imma go let my jman rot in the mines for a couple hours before checkin g if he got atleast a couple bars
anyone know how to unlock more pet boss fight? for some reason, bamboo forest is my last boss fight and i can't go further.
how do i upload image here?
so what i mean is i finish defeating the pet fight to unlock bamboo forest spice
For the world 3 boss does anyone have a picture of it cuz I'm curious where I'll be going up against in a day or two
but there's no more boss after that
you need better rank... just chat some more it won't take long
Oh yeah dude what the hell is that sorry
This one looks a lot different from the others
like do i need to finish world 6 to unlock the rest of the pet boss fight?
for worship, I should do the TD on my BM and the rest i. just use the charge to get the souls, right?
you can do it on any class and archer is helpfull at the beginning
How do I get the grey chef shoe
drops from purple mushrooms w4
Thank you my friend
pretty rare tho 😄
1 in 166,667 drop
I happened tocget these shoes while using candy to Rush through w4 to unlock new classes lol
halfway done dealing with bnloahcs
why dont i auto refine red salts
Is it on?
no
you dont auto refine because its the base salt for everything else to get faster
so you always want to level it as high as possible
You need to have the salt's refinement on (green icon) and then it needs to say on next to Auto Refine (you toggle this with the little tool icon on the right)
oh ok this helps thanks
pizza 1
Can anyone help with world 3 dungeon boss 3?
still need?
ayyy finally a new gstack
Nice, I like clicking big numbers of pens too much to gstack it
u dont use them

bro forgot how gstacking works
Yes I know
I like clicking them too much and seeing the pen number going up to g stack them
I also am still letting my atom collider do conversion to max out the 100000 box thingy
i have no use for them anymore :p
Do you have second tab bottom left maxed out?
Nice, I’m just letting atom collider do it, I couldn’t be bothered to do all the clicking
Ive heard about instant gaming how fast do I need to get my growth speed?
Do you have rock or not?
i have a mouse with an extra button when i hold the button down it spam click
so i just held it down with my wallet lol
Still gotta move mouse no?
Is this what people mean when they say someone is a whale 😭
I wouldnt be asking if I wasnt so close to 5 seconds
thats the easy part
Legit wallet diff
have u tried going to the actual gaming thing at w5 town?
standing there updates it faster
Yes its not instant
How much difference does that actually make? I never tested it
hmmm
I get 2 plants/sec
Im 90% sure its just a speed threshold
yeahh not enough yet. i think i started seeing insta gaming when i was in 2 digits
this isnt the only good source of speed u can go for though
why do people not rely on the # here?
what im trying to say is that crops will take a long while b4 I get more progress there
w8 near enter pizza 1
then why did u answer my question so weirdly?
it adds up. u need every source u can get





