#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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hm? :o
hello new. im fazer
So I have 2 unclassed beginners at L460 and an Equinox quest to bring everyone to L500. (Built them for Lab last summer-ish, and left them unclassed, 'cause was hedging my bets until the new MCs come out.) I'm thinking about making one archer and one mage, maybe one class higher since subclass is swappable. Best Archer and Mage subclasses, if they aren't going any further?
(I have an extra DK, and game only allows one complete reset when needed.)
bro i just got to world 3
I got question is where is any site where i can see what is optimal skill distribution in skill tree for dmg multykill afk and for class main or sub specialization?
i would say idleontoolbox
thx i check it out now. returning player btw
ひどい...
oh ur new, time to bully
lol
no! awawawawa
noob
I have only seen those colors of coins in pictures on the Wiki.
it's my first time seeing the last coin ingame 💀
how many stages is that away from this???
like...... 10?
the real cost is prob more than 27 digits from ur current coin rn
everyone who has the last coin just massacre gmush alot
one day 
lol.My best are the Tydal coins. I think I have 4 or 5 of them now.
I am catching up!
Pretty good, yeah. :)
reminds me I left a single copper coin in my chest on accident
And I was joking back? lol.
Got me! lol.

I wish I was 5x faster 
pastajoe is farming his way to World 3 you best prepare
This is my non pallette speed
can he cook ravioli
I love the name.
Name suggestion for character nr 2?
spaghettibetti11
SpaghettiJoe20
Haha, I could give you tons of pasta names.
Hmm. How about "Orzo"?
Soon
Because Fusilli Corte Bucati doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
huh XDDDD
macaronijoe10
My favorite dried pasta, lol. Don't get me started on fresh pasta.
Hmmm, BillCypherEatingPickles if that fits
This how i feel in w7 shit so expensiiiiiiive
can't even get red fish advice in this economy 
PickleK10
what coin tier u at?
By the time I reach w7 I think my coin issues will be gone
nah.
they'll be there 
coin issues never existed until w7, im afraid /j
is there like an infinite price scaling shop or somethin
So my guess was right 😭
bro

active non infinite gaming sucks sorta
like im under half a minute but I need under 5 seconds for true infinite speed
16 -> 17!
and the prices are something

ye your just gonna be back to bieng broke

Doesnt help I dont get the money mult from packs like yall
im f2p so your point is invalid
Probably you also cant afford shit in w7
Any interesting names from the name suggestion list ?
John Idleon, HomeKeilone, My names klein., JamesJenkins2, Keilenaitor, Keilen the Party Weiner, Kit10, KeilenTooKindlen10, Garfield10, KeilenK9, Keilen the tenth, Kayle the gift thrower, Keilen the wheel demon, KeilenKitten, Kailen, Keilirteen13, Keilen, K10 Destroyer of trades, Keilen the Crystal Buyer, Likeen, Kei-pookiebear-len, Ian McKeilen, After10, Keilmes Keilenkins, YagaBaba, PickleK10, macaronijoe10, Orzo, spaghettibetti11.
i can for most stuff like give me a few weeks to rack more stuff and i will get the money it aint too hard but im rotting most of my cherecters in splunking so cant get much mony
Garfield10 sounds banger lol
keilenaitor
PickleK10, macaronijoe10, Garfield10, After10, and YagaBaba are the most interesting ones
I personally like After10 and Keilenaitor
bc I desperately need cc Im doing cc, statue grind, and some active gaming at once
since I got free time today to collect the damn coins
~30 mins of progress(started at 200)
I like Keilenaitor a lot
so infinite CC is 500 talent lvls?
And so he was born
what map are u on?
wurmz
bro is missing alchemy.
your duration isnt long enough then

-# ew
screw it, im getting omnipotent fury relic, time to redirect boats
thats not ur problem though
actually it might be ability order n shit too
you basically want this first in row 1
and then?
Im not a super sweat w/ cc so I cant tell ya
alr, time to see if this works
what about the actual CC talent itself?
yeah also 467
what about... PO box?
maxed out
ig it's the bubble you're lacking for now yea
alr, 100 atom upgrades a day shouldn't be bad
(i'll be able to get more after increasing max lvls of atoms in gaming)
nub

i know your roadkill at lvl 100
literally scroll up

infinite CC almost achieved, i had to go for 1 min in between so it might go down to 0 this time
Get bigger tenteyecle
its lvl 467
thats what i thought 
anyway hopefully this omnipotent fury relic chance isn't so bad
Probably is xD
And don't forget post office upgrade for alchemy and CC
its at 109% now 
And mana for CD time reduction
Get it to 115-118%
tommorow when atoms reset (or gaming could get me the +atom max lvls, idk)
actually nvm, it loks like this time, i MIGHT get infinite CC 
get more atom lvls and do it now
sure, when i get 200T 
ww?
wdym.
wait........ what.
🤦🏻♂️
itz time to unneglect MC's


Actual goober
yeah
Kind of guy to not know that AC gives 3 lab jewels for each MC drop
ok, when cc ends, my cooldown is only 3K seconds 
what's rift inbound
i got the DB one only
anyway, i guess i could do WW right now
Wow u so popular
NO! 
it's a waste doing it now but im not against it
lazy gaming ftw
-# except if it takes all of those afk stones just for one atom lvl then geez
too late 
no way you used it all that quick
im bailing out again
1068 people should each give you 0.22659176 court coins each
im not the god of speed, i still have 186 left
alr, so AC has an accuracy issue
and this bastard has a damage issue
ac doesn't have accuracy issue after like half of w3
hey guys, what might i be missing, i looked at the wiki but i swears theres no more jewels
yeah, i got over it
maybe ac jewels?
or 2100 lab lvl ones
last 6 jewel are jade emporium and AC tesseract
ohh probably ac jewels, i havent touched ac yet
🥶
ac is too scary man
yo, whats the best way to get more WW dmg
bow and rings from purp mush also putting best stones
im not at purp mush yet
get elemental rings
im at stachios 😎
alr, whats the latest map with it
who
up to stachios
who tf is stachios
sir stache in W3
theres 11 of them, which one do i pick 
sure ig
where do i get dmg rings, all i got are these ass crit dmg rings
Thanks, should have looked for this when I started WW. Perhaps I wouldn't have given up after 2 hours. 🤣 Bookmarked. :)
i think there was a link for pet arena fights. anyone has it?
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
Fellasss, managed to squeeze out the cheese recipe just in time for this choco chip in stock
Lots of luck and focus on this one. I had to grind some splicing, get to arena round 20 for the 4th pet fighting slot, get two more spices unlocked, threw a bunch of ladles around and got hella lucky with the cheese recipe, and now we’re 87/100 🧀
Not to mention fighting a few arenas and mushes for all the ladles
What recipes did u do ?
Once I got the spices I did the recipe and got canopy first, then a bunch more ladles and got cheese the second time
Damn gg
took a few hundred but so worth it to get choco
when does the choco come back in rotation ?
It’s in rotation for me this week
I mean it's random every week ?
I think IE is able to predict it
There’s a rotation prediction in the wiki
Hey it's normal that toolbox is taking forever to load? It's been 5 minutes and it's still loading (first time using toolbox)
I need vpn for it to work normally 🤷🏻♂️
This thing can lie due to a bug with the w6 gem upgrade
I found ITs chip rotation more accurate
Hey all! What's the point in leveling up cooking? Besides getting ladles?
skill mastery from rift, bravery damage, tome score
Thanks! I'll read on those (only familiar with Tome Score, not sure of how it impacts game). Should I level on many characters? I know that getting Vman makes it a lot easier, but it's a work on progress.
Use Divinity pearls if you have the (up to L50) or balloons if you don't, thought I tried to save those.
just use some balloons on every char
this from vault is extra good
Once you get Skill Mastery from the rift you get really good bonuses based on each skill, for the total of levels of all your characters.
I'm really struggling to get 600k blobfish to upgrade my armor - is there some trapping secret that I'm missing?
What traps are you using?
alchemy
Currently using the 3hr Wooden Crates, only getting 863 fish per 3 hours
Sanic Tools is at 41 atm, Call Me Ash at 64
600k blobfish might be too much for where you're at
It's the only bit of Diabolical Armor I'm missing lol
I think I just need to have someone review my progress, I'm absolutely missing things and the systems on systems on systems of this game can get overwhelming
If you’re using a bad trap for what you need it’ll impede your progress heavily
what does this do?
Lowers the amount of salt used in creating a different salt. It's pretty important. :)
What trapping level on the char placing the traps? Could upgrade traps and place some nature traps with the vman to powerlevel.
If you use the vmans +exp ability then place traps it'll snapshot it and give millions of exp
what does this mean
10M of an item.
the number of an item becomes green when you have a stack of 10m
so i need 10M of 20 items??
for now
yes
Too true.
Isn’t there another greenstack needing 155
you also want them cuz of this lab node
200
Oh its 200 not 155
Oh, dumping the exp onto vman is a good idea, I'll do that, thank you!
since the wiki shows jack shit on sources for this stat um
I have this, squirel, pallette 1/2, crop depo, and ofc kitsune
am I missing one or is this really it(working on pallette 2/2 rn)?
bc this is nearing its limits
Whats the limit
nah you need like lvl 700+ on the growth cycle skill i think
with pallette off
im pretty sure this is it other than uh
farming
Do you have Purrmep?
How many crops in depo? I saw like 160+ recommended
Mine is a little higher than that. I wonder what raises that?
div lvls
big P?
So the level of the player linked to it? Or all levels?
Or yeah, maybe big P, though I don't think I have leveled that much.
yea I need to level it
I'm at 26.
im working on something rn
I have 2 more islands to unlock b4 I just do an equal spread between all islands for ship upgrades and stuff like this
pain so close to flouride
Let me see what happens if I change the link to Purrmep to my highest Div character. (It's second highest right now.)
My chars are all nearly the same div lvl + no doot so he has to be on my es(else I lose out on other stuff mostly arctis)
Well, Doot wouldn't come into this. ES is my highest now, but wasn't for a while because I spent less time there with her. lol. Sounds like yours is different, though. How high is your ES Div level?
(Assuming ES = Purrmep.)
It does a little for me since for some reason my bubo gets 1.5x div xp
instead of my ES
My Bubo is my second highest, currently the one linked to Purrmep, and has Div of 80.
Welp, looks like I can crush W5 Colo with my DK
Good news moving forward, the other day I couldn’t even hit Molti’s lol
welp at the looks of it the cheapest upgrade rn for me for gaming growth speed will be big P
Haven’t hit that bubble yet, soon hopefully
working towards diamond chef too
This one is defo higher value to get
It makes cooking possible
all 20 boats on this in like 30mins Ill have like lvl 40
I’ve been focusing cooking hard all day getting this cheese unlocked
should give some talent levels too
pre diamond chef, gl
also another thing I cant find many sources for
snail mail
gambit cavern?
Dont have it yet

I got hella lucky. Not only did I get cheese unlocked but I got all 100 cooked and ready for when these pinions are done 🙂
Did the math, this averages out to ~1.84/day
Choco chip will be mine
ah choco
I got 2 now
Hell yeah! Does the effect stack when used on every char?
Or do you really only need one?
no 1/char
Doesn't stack, but easier with multiples, 'cause you don't need to swap around.
Oh I see, so just throw it on the farmer then
I think I have 5, which is overkill, 'cause most of them don't farm, lol.
you only "need" 3 max

gambit cavern is pretty op
Im working on the pot cavern rn
aw i screwed up pot cavern a little
made ornate pots by accident early on and got some relics before i got second page
It’s gonna sit on my DK for the foreseeable future
just gotta grind out 90k more pinions which should be done this evening
so I have a long ways away to get this
That's who uses it most, for me, but you can have another in a bit over 2 weeks if you want. :)
should be easy to have the mats ahead of time by then! I just sweated it out today to make sure I had it before it’s out of shop lol
Appreciate the heads up man
wtf is this xp req
Goofy ahh exponential increase
its taking like 2 weeks overall just for 80mil
oh and I got a 100% sacrifice for mantis. Should have enough points by tomorrow
For what?
Oh, I'm nowhere near there.
Thought about just dumping all of my opals on Explorer. lol.
thats what im doing to get 11
Do you have the villager exp measurements up and running yet?
Cavern 11 won’t really help you in the short term
I play at a snails pace itll help faster than me getting to cavern 12
Ahh, I read something that said to wait until I have 100+ opals - don't remember where - and I am not there yet.
im at 60 odd opals
- (Got 3 from DB, and am avoiding wasting a bunch of bones on it beyond that. :P)
Is the buff character or account bound?
Need to do the quest on every charachter or one is enough?
I mean it really won’t, it’ll give you maybe 4-5 more opals in the short term and no major account bonuses for a while (you need to wait until much later schematics to get jars online)
it gives villager xp bonuses on the first page
regardless once I hit 11 imma go in on getting measurer much further
then probably the mage guy b4 finally going for more schems
basically focusing xp gain
You’re not supposed to go for collectibles until you have the second page unlocked, i think from engineer 26
ah regardless im gonna unlock it bc im like less than 2 days away and dont feel like resetting it at the wish
Oh yeah it’s not a bad idea to get it started, especially since you can get some easy opals early on from it
It just won’t be the big buff you might’ve been hoping for
At least not until you get that second page of collectibles unlocked from schematics
Is there an XP calculator anywhere, that shows XP required for levels? Or a formula? I'm trying to get my stupid beginners to 500, and pretty sure I don't have enough candy, so looking at running them active. (80T/hr vs 18T/hr)
Ooh, IT has something, at least.
Ugh. Active for about 70 hours. Each.
Account wide iirc
That's bad
any tips for these remaining skills to 1000?
on the bubba optimizer, it says to paste the raw json, but google sheets is not allowing 50k+ pasting. Anyone knows how to solve?
Kitchen = green balloons, anvil = passively or candy it, trapping = use VMAN full skill xp setup + nature traps, eggs = egg more eggs
Spelunking = everyone on final cave
ok i needed some plans to look into. thank you
Remember going max XP upgrades on anvil
Items were capped at 2b so can just dump into xp
And speed if your hammer hammer is low
Yeah, I should upgrade one to a mage subclass and one to an archer subclass - at least a subclass is reset-able.
You can reset a subclass, and one time you can reset an entire character, and I already have a second DK.
Maybe you can wait on one begginer tho
Yeah, that'd only be half the active time (or candies) anyway.
No, but only one of those available...what happens if I need to reset that DK? (Haha, I probably won't be playing long enough for all 3 MCs to come out, though. :P)
Thinking, what if DK's MC really sucks? lol.
Only need the beginners to go to 500. (At 461 or 462 rn.) But they'd be a little more useful with classes. Though they are good for sitting (lab, monuments, etc. lol.)
But why 🧐
My beginners are level 900 
Why 500 or why beginners?
For legent talent point?
Equinox
Oh, it's not worth to spend a lot of candy than 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, that's why I really don't want to do that. Maybe I could just run them active all night for a week each. :D
you're in w7 finaly?
I never remember to do this until I see someone post one of these.
In the yolky things. Will have someone in whatever is next tomorrow.
i feel like it's been ages
That is because it has been.
yeah wait i just saw
i got 8 shots in a row in darts and then screwed up the last one 
im kind of sad right now
it's been 9 days since i said you can enter w7 in like a day or 2 i have no idea what you did
Next time for sure
and i wasn't exagerating with the day or 2 statement
Boys wish me luck on getting these pinion spurs made
9 days ago I wouldn't have been through skydoggies, I don't think. Though I don't really remember.
I could candy them through today, and then I would be out of candy, lol.
I have 107k right now. should be enough time to knock them out I think
Everyone is doing x3 on anvil
i did this 2 times and 6 more times (2 times i messed up the 6 other times was fps drop fails...)
I might reset points and go straight speed if it seems like it’s not going quick enough
i remember dw.
you could've.
Did you buy all of your anvil upgrades, including the ones that use drops?
I haven’t done the monster mats points
bad
It's quite a few points :)
do the monster mats points.
I wish it pulled straight from storage on those
big lazy
Fineeeee
i was too lazy to keep checking the wiki for it so i just memorized the mats i need also xD
I just dragged some of each into my bag, and did a chunk at a time.
x10 😭
I sweated out my breeding/cooking all this morning to get the cheese and it’s the damn spurs that I’m waiting on
it's easier than i make it sound i kinda just memorized mouse placement and clicks rather than the actual mats
i hope u get them
I’m just glad I made half the amount before hand
Timer says 40 hours at 2100 an hour to finish
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Smithing#Anvil_Points This gives you the total of what you need, so you can grab several at a time?
I think if I reset and go straight speed, then do monster mat points I’ll be golden
can also boost up the stamp if needed
Appreciate ya!
Totally forgot about the stamp, I’ll check it out!
The catch there, if you're not doing cap, is that you may end up having to just constantly bounce around between anvils all day.
Mines only at lvl35 looks like I can dump some more points in it
Which sounds even less exciting than trying to get Cheese. lol.
I still have 2 days a piece so I should be ok, I won’t reset unless it looks close then
Hope for a NSLB proc
not on that
Well I guess you want to save it for the kruk stamp don’t you
I’m not nearly that far yet
i mean ideally a nslb hit on kruk stamp yeah
but stuff like crystallin or mason jar or multitool stamp also
Well, the anvil resets are limited to 1 a day I think (I can get 2 because I have my stock doubled), so might want to buy it today just in case, if you haven't stocked up. :)
I have a few saved, I’d only do it on the guys with higher capacity from bags
And just think of all the smithing points, lol, you'll blow through some of your Skill Mastery for that, if you haven't already. :D
(Looking for the good, here. lol.)
Haha, I’m not going to overthink it too much. Worst possible scenario I have to wait for a couple weeks like you said for another chance
But I think I’ll be ok without too much micromanaging
I have a tendency to kinda stress about stuff
I know that kinda stress. :)
Well, for 200 hours of time candy, I could make it to Samurais. :/
This makes me laugh, considering how long W7 has been out. :D
yeah but i was being an idiot for 3 weeks or so
well, i was just farming other things
like dragon statues and spelunking
then i farmed luckiest lad inefficiently for 2 weeks or so and the moment i did it properly it took 4 days
I kinda meant it in the reverse - seems super fast to me - but then I don't even have all of my onyx statues or any beanstalk stuff done, let alone most of my cards.
but we don't speak about that.
nah the cards all the way to like half of w7 are pretty much insta done
Haven't actually tried, tbh, unless there's a specific thing I'm going for, or I happen to notice that a level needs 1 or 2 cards.
well our situations are also different
like i can just pop a 12 hour candy on a w6 card and it would probably go straight to 4* or 5*
whereas for you it would take probably 50x that
I would probably get 20 or 30. lol.
(If I was lucky, and using the right character.)

Wow. lol.
i'll think about it
oh dw i've dumped away way more than 48 days of candy
on golden cakes or fractal trophy
I am pushing w4 with the rest in lab jail to increase the speed to open portals, i also have put as much money into the vault upgrade active murdering, is there something else that provides more kills that counts towards opening portals that i have missed?
i can relate to this. and it was for 1m gcake. after that when i was doing 10m gcake it took less
theres chocolate in my eyes
edible food chocolate
white chocolate dark chocolate milk chocolate
the very dense one for cooking
the weird dubai green chocolate

I'm more of a dark choco person myself, yes.
And dark chocolate with salted caramel is one of the few sweets that I will actively seek out. lol.
lol!
i mean... 😄 i just got home after 12h shift, dumped 2 cans of beer in me
John hasn't returned with wine yet, so I have no excuses. :D
im actually eating a fried chicken rn

🤷🏻♂️
When I started this game, I thought it was idle, but it wasn't...a little frustrated, but quickly got used to it. When I hit W4 Lab (and then Div/Monuments) I was annoyed because suddenly it was idle. And now I'm looking at Bubo at Royal Yolks for 18 hours active or 104 hours AFK, and neither active NOR idle is looking like much fun.
Personally praying for dumb luck on that one. lol. I keep a stack of Royal Suggma's (or whatever they are called) in DK's storage so I can get a ballpark kill count.
i got the w6 from 35mil kills ffs and this not even after 1.7bilion kills ....
Is that including your multikills, though?
Is there an easier way to count than what I am doing? 🤣 😭
not rly 😄
I wish the damn cards had the actual count along with the multikill count. :/
Makes DR calculations really difficult.
Wowza
Haha, maybe when you get those greenstacked, it'll give you your recipe. Only 9,940,000 to go.
xddd
i gave up on it with DB 😄 he has better things to farm
my 2 SBs are there now xd
Right now I just have everyone dumped on their appropriate W6 maps and trying to figure out what the heck to actually DO today. And it's 2PM. lol.
Ive got a huge buff in just getting levels into my measurer waiting for me lmao
2PM xd it's 11:02pm here xd
new reward type in bravery(for me)!
Set 'er up and go to bed! lol.
still need to finish my beer 😄 gotta fall asleep faster
need to bring my car for an oil change at 6am xd
I need to spend time on monuments. I keep telling myself some day soon, then I keep doing other stuff. Need to put everyone there and not open the game for a week or two.
5k hrs soon(like a week but still)
I have chars sitting in this purgatory rn
Now THAT is your own fault for scheduling an oil change at 6am when you work 12 hour shifts. lol.
well it was the best time 😄 since it's long overdue
I think ill stop at ~70
doing this increased my speed by like 1% overall in gaming, the real benefit is arctis
I'm at 1k hours on Bravery and 330 on Justice. 🤣
Thats lower than me on both
I am pretty sure most people are gonna be beyond me, especially on Justice. I kinda went, what, another one? lol. When I get the last god I'll go hang out there. Though I do almost have fractal island open, probably tomorrow.
Ah yea fractal island will be soonish for me too 😭
80 more
seasalt island can wait
I think I need 4. This is my last island.
We need a lazy person's guide to the game: Reach W4. Sit in Lab for 2 weeks. Reach W5. Sit in Div for 2 weeks. Sit in Bravery and Justice for 2 weeks each. Open Fractal Island. Sit in town or on Island for one year.
figured ill get the afk one ready first since when my chars hit 24k hrs on bravery ill need somethin to do
lmfao
taking the fun out of the game at that point
lol
soon
I wonder if there's anything like that in W7. lol.
Yea its called bravery 1mil hours
10,000 spelunking runs
Eventually! Working on Jade rn so I can get the next level of that artifact.
Please tell me you're kidding. lol.
Im about to get sovereign myself actually
yep
Thank you. lol.
Thisll probably be what makes my xp rates go up the most tbh
You're even slightly worse than me! But with those tower levels, you'll walk through. My current max levels (I think 54?) are finished through party starter.
mines max 50
Dont worry its only td and gear crafting
I'm only max 54, and accidentally at that.
also remember to upgrade measurement bonuses through the blue cosmo upgrades
1 more cosmo lvl
guess illl level cosmo first
then minau
then kaipu
I suck so bad at this game. Every time Cosmo gets a point I go, Oh, yeah - I have points to spend! Then forget. I think I have 3 waiting right now.
Imma go eat dinner when i get back in ~1hr ill have flouride!
Enjoy :)
just unlocked atom collider what should i have this set on?
1050M
everything after 1050m will autoconvert
isnt max stack 1050m?
yep
how does it go over?
ah okay soudns good ty
Turn it off lol
Any and all items turns into atoms past 1050m anyways so there is no reason to have it turned on.
Leaving it on will only increase the risk of user error, aka deleting stacks of items in storage.
okey
Could I get help from an archer and mage to fight king doot?
I have knda 20 min. Pm me if you will still wanna.
mambo
so um hows the weather guys
OMATSURI MAMBO
atleast its not showing 2/1 like red bits does
so close and yet so far xdd
no way dad knows the song
first 10m print
MATIKANETANNHAUSER MAMBO
its a start
boron next(its super cheap in comparison so im not worried,yes I skipped ahead a lil for fun)
So um
whats a good guide for td
mines a bit neglected
What is this ?
MSA!
miniture soul apparatus which you unlock from gaming iirc
Oh ok ! And it gives you account bonus ?
Cant wait for these low ass #s to skyrocket
Isn’t from auto arm, then the bonus from gaming and all?
yes that is a 14% dmg that easily could be like +100%
genuinely dont remember
yes
Is with level or import ?
you need BOTH
unsure about the bonuses needing both but to see the ui u need both
2nd lowest lvl tower btw
worst things worst ill send it to you tomorrow
I can easily get 50 on all 6
I wanna do it tonight bc I wont have time tmrow though 😭
!guide td tab or #1277368276095336558
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
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if tower defense didnt suck so much fucking ass w/o voidinator
id probablyh have done this sooner
oh, now it does it
Is it even one to begin with?
nope
Well nothing stopping you from trying with lower tower level 🤷♂️
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50 -> 100 so far
not a bad jumpo
1/6 done
already alot better than I started
I still need to go redo cans. I did it wayyyy long ago for 20 levels, just so I could do the vial. :P Best get to it.
can someone translate this
my eyes hurt reading that left part
Im just using this as a baseline bc its the best stall option
run w3 colosseum with DK and make sure orb is stacked and up until the end when you kill slush
Alternatively stack DK orb at the slush map and then summon the slushes when orb is at a high stack
most of td is waiting
defo gonna reach 100 but after that i think ill intentionally lose bc its too long
lol, I just sort of threw random crap at cans, and when I hit 50, I'm ignoring it, 'cause 50 was all I needed. :)
Im not doing this for equinox
im doing this for the bits %
equinox is a byproduct
For me, only reason I'm doing it is for equinox. :)
I treat equinox like a bonus I keep it in mind
but like not hard focusing it
most of its goals are shit I need to do for other reasons
I'm looking for a couple of particular bonuses. :)
I dont know which bonuses ur talkin about
I only have the top row. I think the shovel is the next one and there's something after that I want as well, but I'm looking at my TD screen right now, doin' what it's doin'. lol.
agony.mp4
when is slow roast in equinox?
I dont have it yet
2nd or 3rd to last, first row?
so like then ext one I unlock after getting 50+ all td
cool
getting the bonus that makes this not a pain
after doing said thing the hard way
I haven't even put any points on that one, because I don't do TD. :D
So my random crap one on cans is actually at wave 70. I expect it'll die, though. :D
(Absolutely NO order to this, other than I stuck a void tower before a bunch of rollers at the start.)
ROLLERS?
I worked yesterday or today, though so I'm starting out with 600 or 700 points, so I can sort of set and go.
meanwhile im out here being all organized
Oh, it did make it past 70, how about that?
Yeah, but you'll probably get further, lol.
I have an ice one and a craken one, too. Don't have any poison ones. Have 2 party starters or something. Put a bunch of towers in the wrong place. Grabbed the wrong tower sometimes. lolol.
I was just throwing stuff then watching it. lol. Only needed 50. :D
I mean I only need 50
but 100 🤤 mucho stats
If I did it again, I would add TWO void towers. lol.
Haha, I won't show you this. 🤣 🤣 This is in no way optimal. :D
Too late, just died - Wave 79. Hahaha!
That was a lot further than I expected, though.
But yay, I'm done! I won't have to do another TD until something ELSE forces me to do it. 🤣
I was in a stalemate
The mob cant win so I just sit here till it dies
eventually
How shall I grind chizoar keys for chizoar armor
Someone answered you above when you asked a little bit ago, Chonk :)
When
Aight
Lemme go get colosseum keys rq
You're complaining? lol.
Im confused
Ugh. And now I'm back to "How do I get my two Level 462 beginners to 500?" 😭
I just throw BM/WW in there and let her do whatever. lol.
15m total hp for 2 mobs is equiv to 70m hp for 10 mobs
lmao Im using es rn bc I couldnt be bothered to sweat
I have infinite stun regardless
upside of being organized
Ahh, every one of those examples I've seen you using said BM, so that's what I use. :)
I like her summons - one of the few times I do - because they get those ones with a point left BOOM so I don't have to chase 'em. :)
There is no max capacity or have ?
right ur td was a mess
timer just gets exponentially painful besides that no limits
the fact ur at 14hrs id recomend using some
There are a bunch of things that can speed that up :)
mean more checkouts more time for next?
yes
had 1k once but used
if u dont have the achievement for 1k total used
spamming it is a viable option once u got all the talents u want
2/6
last one I have actual prog on is next then straight up +100 waves or so each time
I can't WAIT to get this shovel one done. :)
Ill prob get my bm out for the ice one and later
just noticed the % jade
guess ill be getting sovereign faster than expected
Talent for book open here ?
No this is for tower defense skill
but talent for book u can open anywhere just the ones u create are for a specified class
the top
yes but also pay attention to this
i cant use on another class understand
youd be suprised at how many people I saw trying to use "beginner" books on mage
There's too much stuff in the game, sometimes you can't think of a simple thing on the surface
then you think that you're fucking stupid 
This game has many, many facets, for sure. I confuse the hell out of myself all the time. :)
Hey World 4 smarty pants.
How do I get this?
I haven't found the combination yet to unlock it.
Sec
I thought I checked therer, I guess not. Eitherway, awesome thank you
Has examples of all recipes there, not just cheese. (There are actually other recipes for some stuff, but this way you got at least SOME way to get everything. :)
If you're trying for Choco Chip and for some reason don't get Cheese in time, it'll be offered again on...I think it's February 5th.
just unlocked run saving in td
I am trying for it, but yeah I know it comes back. Honestly, I am just trying to unlock things so I can unlock more then just some basic chips
Congrats! I have that, and haven't actually used it yet, though as I said, not a lot of TD for me. :)
lol.
due to the sheer spawn rate
I run TD and pet stuff in a smaller window. I'm told it helps, though I'm not sure.
Is there something I'm missing for Borrowed Pens? I've timed it and getting sub 10 seconds by the time all death animations end but its not popping for me
I cant seem to get the achieve iether and I do it in under 1 sec
(a single wave of whales)
So im gonna assume either bugged or something else is goin on
I thought I had that, lemme check.
its apparently a sporadic issue for some going back 4+ years looking at the Discord
"13 seconds from entering the map, not first kill."
I start the timer before I entered the map (portals, not TP) and still hit under 13 seconds
wtf does not first kill mean?
The timer doesn't start when you kill you first penguin, it starts when you enter the map.
Yep, I do have it.
this is gonna be a moment
Is it one of those that has to be on the Quest Helper to register? (Some of them if they aren't on the popup don't work for me.)
you mean steam acheivement?
oh
No. On the Helper.
quest helper no it has nothing to do w/ quests
As I said, I have had quests that wouldn't register if I didn't have them as one of the 5 on the helper. I don't remember that this was one of them, but it's something to try.
Ill try w/ dk in a moment
The penguin one is just a task board achievement not a quest afaik
Especially something with a timer, I think? But I honestly don't remember that specifically.
Twoo. Then I dunno - I vaguely remember that, and and just walked in with ES or DK at the time, they died and I achieved it. lol.
Stupid question if you've been at this over multiple days, but did you cloudsave before in case your game is slightly out of sync? (I'm sure you did, but asking anyway. lol.)
its beuatiful
I turn that off. No wonder you're overheating, lol.
also again this wave 100 is easier than w2
I wasnt even overheating my gpu just got confused at the spike in workload
Hit the little switch. Don't wanna confuse your poor GPU.
true
no more satisfying murder noises

I did try that / restarting game / different characters etc
its +3% bal gain dont worry about it too much
Unless u got gaiming in which rip thats 1.03x bits
Doing a couple of searches
fun fact about gpus they are only really good at one thing, going fast
Not more complicated math
probably why the fans jet up when I quintuple the workload for 1 frame
even if its .1 -> .5%
lol, I just read about someone who asked the same question, got an answer that included don't TP in, don't have a respawner, etc. and by the time the guy read it it triggered for him on 5th time with DK.
sweet release of death
So maybe it's just a timing issue of some sort?
@fair hare look how clean this is
Very nice! lol.
3/6
The timing would have to be off by 5-7 seconds at least in that case then unfortunately
Dk respawn did the trick
I'm wondering if that's what's going on, though, 'cause this guys was having the same problem, and then it just...worked. Are you playing on your phone, or Steam or...?
for some reason dk respawn forces it to trigger
Steam
w3 or w4 as furthest world?
W4
Well Stevo says DK, and that guy got it on DK, so try DK? And try it multiple times? (PIA, but hopefully you'd get it. :) )
try using dk
And if it doesn't time out right the first time, do it a few times.
ok the sheepie one doesnt wanna do it now
If it's the DK respawn, the timing on that has always struck me as a bit wonky. lol.
reopening game
Ok so it works if I stay on the map for the full timer
w/ dk respawn exclusivley
I think thats it
ok im too tired now ill do the other 3 some day soon
that took me 2 fricking hrs
I should prob level this up some
roller is maxed
Dont use em tho
Steve says do it with DK then wait for the DK respawn.
If u want a tutorial its simple
Use dk
wipe entire map within the time frame(may need to reboot entire game between sheep and pen achieve attempt) then sit and wait u can leavei t on auto
till the full time it asks for goes through sometimes itll still not proc bc of spaghet but it was the most consistent
wonder what is causing that behind the scenes to be the working solution
probably dk respawn tbh
it works similarly to the detection for that achieve
Maybe the server is keep tabs on the time? That doesn't make sense, though, be a waste of processor time, lol.
I'd love to be able to dive into all the sphagetti XD that is half of my day job sometimes
lol, used to be about 1/3 of mine, but I'm mostly retired these days. :)
I think the timer isnt the problem
its detecting all mobs killed, the dk respawn is jank as this achievement sometimes
like it just didnt respawn mobs in rift sometimes for example for me
Here's hoping you get it! Since I probably did it on DK, and the one that I found searching did it on DK, and Steve says HE just did it on DK...just keep trying on DK until it clicks. :)
Whats the best printer for 6 people(i got the gem thing for 2 aswell)
I got 2 of each person
Or like 1 of eac i mea
i unlocked onyx statue yesterday
and deposit 20k running staue in the man
i was confused because it didnt unlock onyx and then finally realize i need to drop 20k instead
thankfully i have another 20k running statue lol
Yeah works on DK. The code is def spaghetti
Yay! I'm just glad you got it done!
I am always so worried I will do this, and glad you had some backups!
I'm not sure I understand the question?
Like the first building u unlock in w3
ye i had way more running statue than other statue for some reason
thankfully i didnt go for other less amount statue first
Yeah, I understand that. I'm just not sure what you meant by "the best printer for 6 people".
It's painful collecting some of those. lol.
Like what do i print for evwryone
for printer
warrior -> ore
mage -> wood
babarian -> fish
bowman -> catching
other you can decide yourself
What to print. You're going to want your main woodcutter/chopper to do wood, miner to do ore, etc. But it can be pretty messy at first, and sometimes more about what you need for refinery than what they are good at. What @wild fiber posted is a good guideline, though.
Thank yoy sm 😎🙏
does shinny snitch prayers give more shinny if i use longer duration trap? or its still best to go with 20mins?
for shiny you only get fixed amount no matter how long the time is
so 20 min for shiny
Bruh how many skull point rifts am I going to have to do 😭
Only 1000 the first time. 5000 after that, three more times, I think, interspersed with other challenges.
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Rift#Rift_Challenges Click Expand, gives you the whole list. :)
Well I guess that's good, I've hit the 2nd or 3rd 5000 and was really dreading that this was going to be every other rift
lol, no, fortunately not THAT bad. lol.
My worst was 47. Nothing too hard for me after that. :)
Eh a few more than I said (and other one is 1k). But like I said, they're interspersed with other stuff. You'll have many things to cuss out as you go along. lol.
ended up doing another one of the td, this map makes me wanna kms
20 more waves to go
I got it setup and just leaving it sit while I do shit I actually have to do
also due to the teleporting ones I needed 2 voidinators at one point
but now my singular void is fast enough :P
I sort of normally use two as a matter of course, but didn't leave myself room on the Cans map.
the first 3 u literally only need 1
also one party starter on pure attack speed solved the issue
so it worked out
Wiki shows the waves, so you can see how many (or which) colored ones you'll need to reset.
sweaty
I literally didnt use a guide for this map
We apparently have different concepts for that.
bc the guide was voodoo magic that was too sweaty using specific timing on bm ability use n shit
so I sorta just copied the acorns way
I almost never use guides. I did on one that was supposed to go for 40 or something, and added a voidinator to it so it took me far past that. :)
I'll probably not use guides when I go to 100? I'll get there eventually. Though I won't do them evenly, like you did.
I think some of my towers are a bit higher than yours (though not many or by much). I can be sloppy. lol.
Only 20 away, though! You can get there. :)
Im not playing this map again for a while dawg
it makes me wanna kms
especially since the guide is unhelpful video only bs
for example the w4 map has a simple image
I like video guides for some things, but they just didn't work for me personally for TD. And a lot of the lists of stuff to do in spreadsheets don't make a bunch of sense to me either, because you don't know where they were when they did what they said. At some point I'm sure I'll need to use them, though.
video guides dont work for td
why tf do I need to sell then replace towers 25 times before round 100?
in a guide???
thats just confusing
lol. They also don't know how many starting points you might have.
I start with 726. That changes a lot of things.
that shouldnt matter too much actually
for a wave 100 guide
I have like 2k on start
or something stupid
Does for me, but then, I'm not following a picture, so I can see why it wouldn't makes a difference for you. :)
a video can work if ur not flip flopping w/ 3 different whatifs
have different sections for that
lol. Well, you're getting decent scores anyway!
cans map is hurting my head
I despise that map. lol. I just threw a bunch of stuff on and let it ride, mostly. lol.
Yay!
takes quite a bit of prep though
wave 30 b4 I got full setup
2 voids
Im just more scientific w/ my td gameplay :P
lol, if you're trying to get to 100, I'm sure it does. 🤣 I was just going pleasepleaseplease let me make it to 50, and then just didn't care after that. :D
I put the voids right at the beginning, then the rollers (or whatever I'm using), then Kraken at the end of that line to knock 'em back, and a Frozone above (if there's a shelf above) to stop them to make sure everyone gets zapped by void.
Then party starters up above (besides the frozen one) and some misc. other stuff. Added a few more towers here and there, and as I said, sometimes grabbed the wrong one. :P
I recomend swapping to poisonic when ya can afford to
a heafty investment but its worth it 21+ recomended
Mine is at 46. Kraken is at 50, so only 4 more to go at my current maxes. Void is 25. Everything else is currently maxed.
then why tf are u not using poisonic?
poisonic + kracken outscales all other dmg
and infa stalls once u got ur voids up
are u just raw dog dps through it?
roller is better short term dps
How does leaving a character cooking work? Is it just the soup laddles and exp or does it also boost cooking speed? and then with that in mind, does the cabbage meal (+x% cooking speed per 10 cooking levels) mean that you are getting extra cooking speed for any character that is currently cooking, or does it mean you get it based on the total cooking level of your characters.
just that first thing
also cabbage is goated and yes its all chars
so its total lvl?? thats kind of insane
yea, but meal costs get insane
Just didn't think of it. 🤷♂️ For what I was trying to do - get to 50 - it wasn't necessary. :)
I swear the poisonic and roller towers by themselves are complete morons
just lost wave 80 bc poisonic targets the random ass singular straggler
instead of the giant hoard
I remember why I dont like this td now
no options for targetting
the most basic tower defense game mechanic might I add
If you look at your AFK screen on cooking, you'll see an efficiency slider. That's what determines how many ladles you get (shown at the top) when you AFK. As you add effiency (at least once you're up some levels, the only thing I could test), the number of ladles per hour doesn't go up until you hit the next efficiency bracket. Cooking speed is mostly handled by various boosts in all different parts of the game, but you'll want to get everyone's cooking level up for Skill Mastery, if nothing else. You can do that with Divinity Pearls if you have them, through level 50, or balloons, which work beyond level 50.
still not horrible
so just to be clear, if my total cooking level is 500 I get whatever the bonus says on the cabbage meal x50?
Its based not on that






