midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[subtle jacinth]

I've got traps going with all 7 of my chars right now, so it takes quite a bit longer for me, especially since nobody is hanging out where they are trapping, so lots of porting, etc.

[fair hare]

When you get the trapping drone, you just click on a critter button, and set the traps from there.

[subtle jacinth]

Yep, figured as much. Now, can one char (the hunter) set the other char's traps? Or does each char have to do it themselves?

OK, pic explains it, thanks

[fair hare]

Any one can set/collect anyone's traps, but you're usually better off doing it with Beastmaster, because of the bonuses.

[subtle jacinth]

Don't have one of those yet, Still in W3

[fair hare]

Not too far then!

[subtle jacinth]

🙂

[fair hare]

You need to build a few things before you get to the Trapping Drone (it's 3rd to last), but it will make your Trapping life SO much easier, and you can get to all critters, even in maps/worlds you haven't been in yet.

[pure coral]

Is it normal that i only get 4 slots for the dharma mesa fight? It feels almost impossible to beat

[mossy anvil]

how about doing your arena?

[pure coral]

nah im good actually the boss was hidding the spot

arena is max

[mossy anvil]

[balmy crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324964674462154803/1383571557057822914/yepe.gif

[full reef]

its finally here

time to put everything at bravery instead

[celest quarry]

What is this rift thing ?

[full reef]

rift 25

but then again i rather unlock more on hole rn

[pseudo flicker]

World 4 mechanic

[turbid stag]

[celest quarry]

Just looked on wiki didn't do it yet ! gonna go unlock it 😄

[pseudo flicker]

It’s very worth pushing when you have the damage/ability to, upgrades a lot of stuff

[full reef]

im afraid im not yet strong enough

[pseudo flicker]

Are you in world 6 yet?

[full reef]

just got to w6 but my best slot has 7k kph on the first map so im not gonna bother too much about w6

also only spent 1 week in w5 and pushed straight to w6

lacking a lot of things from w5

[pseudo flicker]

Gotcha, just when you get around to unlocking your masterclasses, AC (bubo’s MC) will do much better in that map

[radiant bison]

Yea you dont need to the cost cheapener upgrade is what makes summoning easier

even at lvl 100 these are pretty good

[rancid stirrup]

Pet setup for spices

[fair hare]

I have a ways to go:

[radiant bison]

You already hit the hardest milestone for that talent so not bad

[fair hare]

I use this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1456631358695931968/image.png?ex=6966402a&is=6964eeaa&hm=57f7b314b8c146aec435fe45c60cc30b6cba316d0d56d4bff0cc4fc0a16943e0&

[radiant bison]

just focus essence gain upgrades but remember to upgrade equally

[radiant bison]

unlock or like for spice gain?

[fair hare]

Oh, good point.

[rancid stirrup]

Spice gain

[radiant bison]

or

I dont remember what alchemic does atm

(I dont have alchemic but I have all spices and 200 waves)

[night oracle]

Ewwww monolith

[radiant bison]

For spices its kinda necessary

[night oracle]

No it's not

[radiant bison]

I did something a little different that got all of them but more or less that should work I believe

[radiant bison]

Spices w/ low pets stat yes

[night oracle]

This is better

I used the same setup for w7 spices with low pets

I just kinda fucked up the first bit of and let the stick die in that video, but it's a lot faster than monolith

[wet fjord]

guys happy hour in 20 mins

[radiant bison]

It requires stuff I dont have early on though

[night oracle]

Like?

You can use two rattlers

[radiant bison]

That trash can

and that dog ability

[rancid stirrup]

Whats atomic something for the pets

[night oracle]

Can use rattler instead

[night oracle]

Easy to get though

[radiant bison]

I did up to w6 w/ just w1 and 2 pets

[night oracle]

It's a nuke

[radiant bison]

this was my options

[night oracle]

Crazy

Still trasher > monolith though

[radiant bison]

defender, monolithic, looter, refiller, badabums, rattler in this order

w/ some luck just WINS

[night oracle]

I assume that's right to left order?

[radiant bison]

left to right

defender is on the left

[night oracle]

Why defender in the back... Isn't that annoying af to time blocks

[radiant bison]

rattler in front(it sounds weird but its so I forced myself to fail early)

[radiant bison]

its the die fast or win instantly strat

So by making the timing early on more annoying

[mint rivet]

Greetings everyone

[night oracle]

Hi bean

[mint rivet]

👋🏿

[radiant bison]

I increased survibility letting me stretch way beyond what I shouldve been able to lmao

[mint rivet]

makes me jealous of that trophy

[night oracle]

Luckiest lad?

[radiant bison]

Cant wait for the luckiester lad

[night oracle]

Got my third yesterday

[mint rivet]

but you're also a whale

[night oracle]

Can't buy luck

[radiant bison]

slowly turning all my meals red, once I get that one atom upgrade even once Im gonna go ham on levels!

[night oracle]

W

[radiant bison]

gonna be a while though

[mint rivet]

but you can buy better luck

[night oracle]

But
I'm the luckiest lad

[radiant bison]

Tell that to the people w/ 3k+ dr

[mint rivet]

i'm the luckier lad

[night oracle]

Well you see, I don't have 3k dr

[radiant bison]

that dr is still disgustingly high geeze

[night oracle]

I'm saving them for the luckierst lad

[mint rivet]

tell that to the ppl with 8k dr

[radiant bison]

WHAT

how tf

[mint rivet]

well idk if ppl is really fit, though 1 person for sure

[mint rivet]

5 skull nametags is one thing

[radiant bison]

what speed do I need for instant gaming?

[balmy crystal]

8s

[radiant bison]

So im a little off

156 seconds atm

so I need to be 20x faster

[night oracle]

I only have 3 :(

[mint rivet]

just went from 63 logbook to 68

[mint rivet]

goober, i have one...that i spent 5400 gems for

[night oracle]

Dx

I have 10 ginger cookie nametags

[radiant bison]

soon

[mint rivet]

i don't have diabetes from all the dr stuffing

[mint rivet]

do u have pallete yet?

[radiant bison]

133/150

[balmy crystal]

noice

soon ill achieve greatness

[radiant bison]

I assume pallete is easy af to get post snail?

[balmy crystal]

nah

[mint rivet]

i got no clue

[radiant bison]

well once ya get some 2^level multi from it

[radiant bison]

well xp is somewhat based on bit gain so

[radiant bison]

instant pallette gaming?

[balmy crystal]

yeah

[mint rivet]

i am missing something big

[balmy crystal]

these two needs more lvls i guess?

[radiant bison]

the odds get so so much worse soon 😭

.5% for eldritch on the spool vs .5% for ancient on fury

[mint rivet]

what are yours at?

[mint rivet]

ah so that's a big part, another one is level of the upgrade itself, what else?

[balmy crystal]

farming, squirrel

[upbeat raven]

is there a tool or any way to calculate the highest stat a cog can give? since it's based on the highest construction level there must be a way to calculate it right

[mint rivet]

yeah my squirrel is at 277% currently, still going for that mega nut pallette unlock

[balmy crystal]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-WVcuc5AHtCsAEFy48lAvBzYKLuSIwMp1IU8sqUMpUU/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[upbeat raven]

🫡 ty

[mint rivet]

is this up to date for jeweled

[balmy crystal]

i dont think so

[sonic sage]

is there a way to do multiple tasks in the troll without oneshotting him?

[radiant bison]

what a stat spread

all the popularity downsides from timmy dont hurt me rn is nice

[mint rivet]

my 2nd sparky!

[radiant bison]

nice

[balmy crystal]

no pop means no gratefulbringer

[mint rivet]

soon

[balmy crystal]

i havent collected my exp in months

im waiting for ballot but my patience is runnin short

[mint rivet]

neglecter

[civic wyvern]

Is there a quick way to boost spice generation? I am currently short 400 spice for the jewel spinner purchase and am unsure I will make enough before the reset 🙁

[mint rivet]

get better pets

[civic wyvern]

Do you think it would be worth using the eggs on this?

[balmy crystal]

set up to boost one specific spice

fleeter if no converter

[mint rivet]

u can't get that high power pets from normal eggs

i just lost few million dragon statues due to having cluster conversion on

[balmy crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1236455214668583067/1418003501652512889/pepe-heheh.gif

[civic wyvern]

Ahhh and I'm early enough I don't actually have many options 🙁

[balmy crystal]

forget about it then

[mossy anvil]

cooked

[civic wyvern]

Fair 🙁

I guess on the plus side I did manage to get to Viral Connection so the jewel isn't AS important now but would still be nice.

[radiant bison]

Sticks are a good option to go first among what you can go for easily

itll also get ya baddabums

[mint rivet]

before

after, HUGE!

[balmy crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1236455214668583067/1417911651507638393/noted.gif

nah this is uge

[mint rivet]

i am still at the start of the cluster grind, my bonus is 1.1x

[balmy crystal]

damn

hope you cluster better

[mint rivet]

that's why am grinding dr

[balmy crystal]

what are you farming

[mint rivet]

currently my active grind is ac crystal on clammies

i got the 1.1x dr but am at 1.06/1.1x afk gains

anyways, i gtg now

[balmy crystal]

same bye

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/783890863210102784/828794839796940830/1c708022-7898-4121-9968-0f0d24b8f986.gif

[sick turret]

Is anyone down to share friend bonuses I'm account level roughly 6k atm

[forest sierra]

gm gm

kinda new player, got through 4 maps in w4, what should i be grinding

[pseudo flicker]

Do you have elite classes on all your characters?

Barbarian —> blood berserker, squire —> divine knight, etc

[forest sierra]

just one seigebreaker

[primal yew]

Thy sit upon a throne of skulls twenty, from enemies I hath rend,
Staring at the stars, you'll find me where the branches end
Come hither and maxed friend bonuses thou shalt own,
Spoil for others you shall not, for this secret is yours and yours alone.

Last call before I level up

[pseudo flicker]

Your main priority should be doing that for all your characters

[forest sierra]

ook, ima get everyone else pushing then

[lucid lichen]

I just more than doubled my artifact find chance, and I'm still stuck at 0,01% chance for tier 5 fury relic, even with the purple chest. How low is the base chance? 🙁

[pseudo flicker]

Very low

[lucid lichen]

I hope I get some ender captains soon, i unlocked them maybe a week ago. I guess they should help a bit

[candid creek]

I hope you become a cluster

[balmy crystal]

make 999999 clones of me then

[mossy anvil]

all of them will share single braincell

[balmy crystal]

it will be a hivemind

[mossy anvil]

[ebon blaze]

Last few W4 maps timegated af

might have to break out the candy

[balmy crystal]

wuh, there are no timegated portals

[hollow pagoda]

are there any advice sheets for good pet fight teams?

[livid dove]

Should I be grinding for the other elite classes while doing deathnote for my mman

[vital ether]

get elite classes for all

vman takes awhile but push for elite classes and then you can work on skilling etc

[deft olive]

Have I been scammed? I just finished my first speedrun and have been told my cooking speed will scale greatly. What is this trickery ahh

[earnest jolt]

does pet breedability increase their power?

and do i still need breed pets if ive unlocked all pets

[twin quest]

going back and getting stronger versions later for more spices and battle power is something you will need to do

[earnest jolt]

@twin quest I want to get high power pets but not sure what contributes to it

[twin quest]

there are different buffs in other mechanics that do it.
also make sure you breed on beast master

but the best buffs are within breeding

not breedability but futher in the upgrades you get damage buffs

[dusk prairie]

If I increase my cannoli level do I need to redo a save to get the new points increase? As in if my save has 100k point and double my cannoli, do I still have 100k or would it be 200k?

[earnest jolt]

do the splicing points and breedability affect pet power though?

[zealous comet]

Have you try cloudsave and log in to Vman again?

[zealous comet]

I mean if you claimed that is a bug?

[deft olive]

I just did the math again and it seems right anyway

I forgot to count the % in the formula

[zealous comet]

It will be huge for the later game

[deft olive]

i thought the scaling would be crazier

[deft olive]

yeah ofc

[zealous comet]

Very crazy dude... its E30...

[deft olive]

with booked talent?

[zealous comet]

Mine is lv 317 Blood Marrow

[deft olive]

Yeah makes sense then

[zealous comet]

You will get there soon

[hallow arrow]

is this realistically the last bubble for green ?

[sleek elm]

for now yes

[hallow arrow]

whoa you can get 2 more

is it worth it or can i start moving people to sigils?

[sleek elm]

yes, a lot of nothing

[zealous comet]

For many more, not just 2, but cannot use for now 🤣🤣

[hallow arrow]

oh lol ty im still pretty far behind in all alchemy related stuff so i might move these guys into sigils

[zealous comet]

Go sigils if you have unlocked all 4 path now

You will know when you have ? on buble on 4 path

[sleek elm]

i would suggest only if you have 80+ sigil speed ngl

[hallow arrow]

oh how do i check my sigil speed? and thanks stuu i have more to go for yellow but that cauldron is full for now

[sleek elm]

idleontoolbox -> account -> world 2 -> sigils

[hallow arrow]

yooo howd i do that lol

[sleek elm]

lol

you have more then me xD

[hallow arrow]

yea most of mine is from summoning i think

[sleek elm]

ye im at endless 140 or sth

[hallow arrow]

whoa wait im only at endless 80?

[sleek elm]

wtf?

[hallow arrow]

must be a pack or something?

[zealous comet]

What happen to mine,... why it go so high

[sleek elm]

I got that "king of all winners"

[hallow arrow]

im currently afking worms so i can check this later

lmao holy crap 1300

[sleek elm]

from the gem shop

[zealous comet]

I didn't buy anything for sigil from gem shop

That useless as sigil didn't buff much]\

[sleek elm]

ye i agree

but those were for the summoning buff

this takes forever lool, im just at the stage of unlocking every sigil for now

[zealous comet]

My summon only 7.3
Maybe there some bug with the provided number

[sleek elm]

then probably stop for a while untill i have more

[dawn token]

Hi, I'm recent to W4 and having some accuracy issues.
I read to use "idleonefficiency" check list or something, but whenever I try to connect my steam account there, this "Unknown error occured, make sure you have idleon app installed" message shows up, both in pc or mobile.
I have the app installed on both (lol)
Does anybody know how to fix it?

[clever thunder]

my sigil speed at 45 but i really need to speed it up for more daily crystal spawn chance

[sleek elm]

summoning + the 2 vials is your best bet, make a print of the equinox logs and you have easy lvl13

[zealous comet]

Have you link your steam account with google account or something else

As the tool is work better for the google account

[patent summit]

anyone available to help me activate doot miniboss for the first time?

[zealous comet]

And for the lack of accuracy, you can get more with vault and upgraded gear

[clever thunder]

Nah bro my daily rolls vials arent good enough..

[sleek elm]

same.. havent unlocked a new one in like 4 days even doing the drop trick

[hushed mist]

is the statue metallurgy book available? I bought it but it wont give it to me.

and the anchent multitool book

[clever thunder]

Have you clicked that book in your inventory?

[zealous comet]

Increase the chance to spawn crystal mob is way better than increase number of daily spawn bro

[hushed mist]

its not droping the book

[sleek elm]

you can barely push that tho :)

[clever thunder]

Got it bro im alrd 1 in 10

[nocturne dock]

I have a Blood Berserker, 2 DKs, 1 Bubo, 1 Elemental sorcerer, 1 Siege Breaker, and 1 Beast Master. What should my next class be?

[zealous comet]

Is this able to call as barely

[dawn token]

it seems like it isnt possible. thanks tho

[sleek elm]

this is basically it, only thing to push from that I have is better cards thru spellunking (not there yet) and wait for crystal shrine to push higher :) and get lucky with chip for poop card hehe

[clever thunder]

Its dropped in book iirc.. it cost 5 charges and gacha stuff

[zealous comet]

A huge number of card to finds

[sleek elm]

yupyup haha

[hushed mist]

I know i bought it. from VIP bookshelf but nothing droped

[clever thunder]

i have no idea ..

[grim badge]

Can someone help with Pet Breedability? The video i saw says Pink heart pets work to increase the breedable Multi for thier own species. But doing a search says it works for all pets. I've only been keeping the highest level pink pets for the pin, but should I just be throwing old pink pets away that I've already got the Next Pet for?

[zealous comet]

The pink heart only work for only 1 pet, not the whole world or something else. So as you have find the next pet, you can let the old pink hearted pet go

[grim badge]

Okay. Thank you. So what is pushing the level up (numbers lik 32.6K) on my pets? My Breeding Level?

[young oyster]

hide and seek whalmus giveway and more in 15 min pet trade discussion

[candid summit]

i forget, does kills for opening portals show up in the afk menu? does that even work when afk?

[zealous comet]

The number of the pet have is like the power of that pet. And of couse it go with your breeding level (the breeding bonus) and bonus from hunter and many more

[patent summit]

need 1 person to help with the doot miniboss as archer

[zealous comet]

If you have an portal that still not unlocked yet, the kill/hr can count to the portals kill required

[candid summit]

basically, how do i refine this setup
i noticed that removing the worm lookin one that buffs portal kills makes the afk kills/hr go up so should i not use it?

[grim badge]

Thank you. And have you used the Shelled pet? The description doesn't make sense. Does it go into the Fenced yard which means it would be pink or put the combat pet into the spice production.

[zealous comet]

Please note that the kills will count at least twice when you have the worm lookin enable, this is good for deathnote and opening portal

[bleak stirrup]

Do your characters still get smithing xp when having this option enabled?

[zealous comet]

Even the afk kill/hr of you may reduce but the counted will be x2 x3

[candid summit]

really funny seeing my silly nickname for it used by someone else!

[zealous comet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#gid=893917212
This sheet may help you find the setup for spice production

[candid summit]

so what im getting is even if the afk menu says its worse, its secretly better

[zealous comet]

The fenced yard only for the pink heart and shinny pet

[grim badge]

So which version of the Eggshell type pet do i need?

Have you used Eggshell Pets?

[zealous comet]

You don't need any :))
The needed one only the pink heart (for increase chance of new pet), the pet that used in spicy production and shinny pet

[grim badge]

No, i'm not asking about spice production. I'm asking how to make extra eggs with it.

[zealous comet]

It just can be worse for now as your dmg isn't enough to 1 hit mobs as the HP is way bigger, when you have upgared your gear, your dmg, that worm is the one that have more benefit than ever

[zealous comet]

Idk, never used once.

As i always put eggs there for like a week

To have gold egg and the better one

[grim badge]

BTW: THis google docs sheet is really really nice. Thanks for it. But I'm just trying to now generate a few extra eggs over spice products. The description of the EggShell is very missleading

[candid summit]

does the fact im asking about w7 affect anything? theres debuffs there
i figured since prayers are in w3 i should ask here but idk lol

[zealous comet]

You can also bring this question to W7 as it related to W7 portals, these guys will help you also.

[candid summit]

oh yeah forwarding is a thing

[zealous comet]

Because the guide may depend on your account, as you may not have enough dmg to progress the portal and maps

And when you enable that worm, you maybe worst because W7 mobs have a huge HP

[burnt prism]

Is dementia better than amarok? seems that amarok got higher dmg but dementia got better def

[sleek elm]

void>amarok>dementia

I would suggest to just make 1 set of everything for the bonus and upgrade it on your push character

then later on you can slowly build it for everyone, i only had 1 good set untill world 6, then 3 untill world 7

Once I unlocked the troll + magma set (seems hard for now but is actually easy on later) you just put the divine armor on everyone since thats quite easy to do

[burnt prism]

I just crafted dementia on my push character, but saw that my dmg was lower, but my defense was higher. So thats why i was asking. On my other chars i will just stick with amarok because its not worth getting anything else

[deft olive]

only ballers run efaunt in w6

[sleek elm]

it might also be better cause of the upgrade stones :)

[burnt prism]

True the stones in w4 is so bad

[sleek elm]

dementia body -> 4 upgrade slots, amarok body -> 5 upgrade slots

And amarok also has weapon power of 3

seems small but is quite significant

[gray pumice]

kinda facing issues at the mid/end of world 3 i dont know how far i am really (im like 1 or 2 maps away from boss of world 3 and the only way i can really progress is by making anvil 3 the issue bout that is i got about 5% accuracy when trying to get platinum so i need to increase my mining effi (i got poopy pic and lvl 100 of that mining star talent u unlock pretty early (i am mining on my mage cus i did not really put anything into my warrior sooooo is there a way to increase my effi so that i can mine plat no problem or do i have to go truh making my warroir lvl 25 mining?

[sleek elm]

Things that could help is cards! try to utalize them, also if you go into the cards at codex, you click on sets to the left and click on "easy resources", the one gives skill efficiency. what you could do is candy a few skills, candy-ing skills is always worth it :)

make sure you swap your talents to things that actively boost mining (like full on str + hp, together with the mining specific ones)

[gray pumice]

thx allot ill look into that and true i have only been using the world one cards i got 4 stars on

[faint crystal]

my name is dunkii

[sleek elm]

!minechart

[candid scarab]

Created by u/TrazCS

[sleek elm]

it might be vague but there are some things that you might know already, like the boxes, cards, certain equipment and also HP potions

hp pots for this:

giving mining efficiency per power of 10 max HP you have

[gray pumice]

thx allot man

[sleek elm]

Other things to watch are stamps

[gray pumice]

thx man

[deft olive]

since we're on the topic of skilling, what's the efficient way to level up my vman skills? he gets way less skill efficiency than specialized classes and idk what i'm supposed to do. maestro transfusion seems to stunt my exp gain even more so I suppose skill efficiency is more important than skill xp gain. any helper tips/things im missing?

[left shuttle]

Don't do skilling on other characters pepega

[deft olive]

yea but how am i supposed to raise their levels for better tools?

[turbid stag]

I think skilling is fine on any character as it is easy to get levels on vman

[left shuttle]

I raised it just enough so i could equip last tools, while my vman is skilling non stop

[deft olive]

vman in skilling prison is crazy work

[turbid stag]

just increase your skilling bonuses, higher bonuses towards skilling = more exp, so ez levels.

[left shuttle]

I passed crystal dmg today

[deft olive]

so where tf am i supposed to use maestro transfusion?

[turbid stag]

early game I like post office, depending on what skill your focusing on you put boxes in that.

[left shuttle]

For traps and worship

[turbid stag]

I was gonna say that

[deft olive]

isnt it better to collect with BM for extra critters?

maestro transfusion applies when collecting with trapper drone?

[turbid stag]

The thing is you either go full shiny / critters or full exp there is no in between there

[deft olive]

i see, two different builds

[turbid stag]

full exp is placed with vman using trasnfusion with nature traps

critters / shiny is with BM/WW

[deft olive]

ah so I have to place with transfusion, not collect

and when I try to active farm skill xp for, let's say mining, what's the sweet spot of hit chance/xp per hit i should aim for?

i've been noticing consistent xp gain around 60-70% hit chance

[turbid stag]

I.. Um.. Well.. So. I would say just find a place with highest exp per hour and that's the spot for you until you get more bonuses and it changes.

I would just continue upgrading skilling bonuses until you get 100% and continue to get 2x and higher.

Also it doesn't matte how low your hit chance gets as long as the exp is highest.

[deft olive]

gotcha

also for like very late game i saw people have max tools on everyone (pick, axe, net, fishing pole). Isn't that a huge pain to grind? How do they do it?

[mystic vigil]

you reach a point where you can just candy the skill levels extremely easily

[deft olive]

right, didn't think of that

[lost acorn]

what is the highest pet currently can be breed?

[steel blaze]

Should I keep my cog board more or less all +XP until I get 3 people making purple cogs?

[red relic]

Always xp cogs. Also put your character that is on board close to that silver cog in the middle. It's what we call a "directional" cog as it gives a bonus in a specified area

[steel blaze]

oh shoot didnt even notice that thank you so much, I was just curious because my build speed is starting to feel super sluggish, wasnt sure if I was just in an akward phase

[red relic]

There is a slow period yes but it's worth it. There is a bubble in the orange cauldron that scales your build rate based on construction levels that does a lot of the building work. Carpenter i think? Should be 3rd page of orange bubbles

[steel blaze]

its always goes back to alchemy

thank you!

[flint path]

Just hit w4 and got my class what should i be focusing on alot with now

[quick plank]

Get the w4 subclass in the genie area on every character if you haven't yet

[flat forge]

only need 1200 in 2 days

[vagrant kelp]

Hi all! Is it possible to catch shiny critters when using Eagle Eye? It's been a week and I got 0. I maxed Reflective Eyesight too...

[hollow cave]

you should be able to, Reflective Eyesight is only relevant when placing traps in case you levelled it afterwards

which does also mean it will not impact characters who placed their traps themselves (though if placing through the trapping drone you can effectively apply reflective Eyesight to others traps)

[vagrant kelp]

So Eagle Eye should allow for shinnies, and Ref Eye only impacts my Hunter until I get the drone. I re-placed my trap just in case I had it leveled after the initial set up. Thanks a bunch!

[hollow cave]

For sake of it when you examine the traps you should be able to see the Shiny% on the trap next to the critter count, so might be worth directly checking them to see

[somber isle]

can I hold 10 stacks of 1050M of copper in chest, will it count as another power of 10?

[red relic]

No only counts the highest stack

[gritty elm]

Is there any way i can use the lab buffs without needing my characters to be there

[radiant bison]

Its a start

Slow, basically free even if small dmg increase and refinery speed

(also helps me prep for building speed and makes me get my shrines upgraded properly so its a win win win)

current goal is for my trimmed to get stuff at 1m time to 10m+ build
and the other 3 slots are focused on getting stuff to that 1m

gonna change to 100m and 10m once I get all to 1m+

if I manage to get it to 1250 itll really start rampin a bit(at 20m/hr base rn)

[mighty raft]

Hey started the game yesterday and after some light whaling, I'm at W3 with most of my characters around 90ish. So far I've mainly used the vault to advance and almost all of my characters are usually farming for money. I'm running into some walls though. Some things seems to be blocked by things you can't power level like the cauldron, critters, construction, etc. Is it worth it to slow down or could I feasibly push to the later worlds and then circle back once I have more boosts that will help me progress some of the grindy stuff faster?

[radiant bison]

for w3 stuff yea, for couldron Id recomend doing it daily regardless as its in the quick ref same w/ construction, these 2 are gonna be slow for a bit but you should be able to passively push these a little

as a non whale I skimped on doing tower defense for a little while

doing salts regardless too(btw always rank up red, the others be a little more careful when ranking them up)

Salt locking urself isnt fun

[mighty raft]

Bet sounds good. That's pretty much the stuff I was focusing on anyway. It's getting hard to manage 6 characters but it's a dopamine rush whenever you switch over. Do folks actively have characters always doing something different or is it common to just have like 6 mules/farmers?

[radiant bison]

depends

w4 and 5 skills put your chars in "jail" for a while + the resource printer in w3

makes ur chars able to multitask alot more

well once ur chars are out of div+lab jails

[mighty raft]

Ohhh sounds good. Pushing for that is probably what I want to do then. Might be prudent to just force it until I hit a hard wall while maintain some important things. I'm hoping that certain things will just be more fun for me once I can breeze past it

[mighty raft]

lab jail😭

[radiant bison]

its worth it

and for pushing

For w4 u can rush w5 w/ 7-9 chars in lab, 1 pusher

[mighty raft]

Oh I actually got that pack that gives you this + the stamps. I can't tell if it's working though

[radiant bison]

it does work

but they do stack if ya got the pack

once u get w5 all chars in div is priority at some point u can have those chars in both divinity and lab at once(if u have doot thisll be earlier just get lvl 2 div on all chars, youll still need to do it but youll be able to get away w/ putting off divinity for longer than the dootless atleast)

At ~world 4 - 5 is also when all char stats start beating out gear stats for a while

[mighty raft]

Ok perfect. I think a plan is formulating. I might use the afk candies to push through 3 + 4. Then find out what this div thing is. I think that'll be more fun than hoarding them

[mighty raft]

This is good to know because I don't even have proper equipment. Crafting seems really hard to do early on and no "shops" where you can just buy something. So that's something else I can avoid

Once I get the killer's brightside, I think doing some of the grinding on certain portals will be a lot more manageable as well

[radiant bison]

I used and still use the level 1 weapons on some of my chars + no armor

btw b4 u put people in lab in w4 let em push to the map to get their elite classes first

one of em makes pushing lab easier and the rest are nice to have

[mighty raft]

Lol glad this is viable. The crafting itself itself is just hard to naivgate for some reason. There doesn't seem to be a straightforward way to just craft from box for things I haven't crafted before

[radiant bison]

Yea at first crafting will be annoying, it still is for me for tab 2 stuff

[mighty raft]

Yea I'm hoping it becomes more pleasant as I unlock the more QoL features. Things like the 3D printer for example. Although I think I'm going to be using that for construction

Does leveling skills like mining get faster later on?

[young raptor]

How does one use the 3d printer

[radiant bison]

Do the icecream quest

[young raptor]

Okay now what

[radiant bison]

Yes but like thats mid w5

[radiant bison]

Continue till u get the sample skill book

[young raptor]

For the talent)

[flat forge]

everything gets faster all the time lol

[young raptor]

I got the talent but idk how to use ts

[radiant bison]

Do you have this?

[gritty elm]

Any tips how to get more bigger samples? Apart from getting more eff on my char

[young raptor]

Yes

[radiant bison]

Go to gmush

equip it and use it

[young raptor]

What?

[mighty raft]

Dope thanks for all the help! Sending good vibes your way

[radiant bison]

for skilling is similar

[radiant bison]

the first mob in the game

[young raptor]

Okay wait

[young raptor]

Now what

[flat forge]

btw idk if you read but you are actually getting 3x that, the buffs from lab and harriep don't show in the rate there, they are just noted by the symbol
blue dot is 2x (lab only)
star like you have now is 3x (harriep only)
purple swirl is 6x (lab and harriep)

[radiant bison]

ok u have the 3d printer on that char right?

[young raptor]

Yes

[gritty elm]

How do u get the purple

[radiant bison]

click one of the little squares and itll appear in the first of these 2 slots(u can get a 2nd slot its one of the best gemshop things to save up for in the entire game)

[pliant echo]

Does anyone know the thresholds for when damage numbers turn funny? 10m is when it turns yellow iirc, but when does it turn blue?

[flat forge]

you need to have the lab node active and the character needs to be in the lab

or have bear linked

[young raptor]

Okay wait

[gritty elm]

Theyre all in the lab rn

[radiant bison]

congrats ur getting 20 of those/hr now

ignore the image meant to send for something else

I just got this and now gaming is alot easier

[young raptor]

Okay but 20 sucks

[radiant bison]

Yea it gets better over time

[flat forge]

huh you should be getting purple then

[young raptor]

So I just leave it alone for no?

Now*

[radiant bison]

for gmush yea

I see thats a warrior

[flat forge]

were you unlinked when you sent that ss

[radiant bison]

go mine copper and click the sample

you can prob get alot more copper than gmush(both of these 2 are needed CONSTANTLY for red salts)

[flat forge]

it's so buns when you first get it lol

[young raptor]

:/

[flat forge]

but it exponentially increases as you increase your sample size rate (up to 90%) and your skill efficiency

[radiant bison]

For combat yea for skills its, ok ig

[flat forge]

and theres some things that multiply printer output as well

[young raptor]

On my talents there’s something called rage basics and presets I can get all my stuff back and re send pints to places

[radiant bison]

this makes combat mats better(you only need 1 lvl in it)

[young raptor]

Can I max out the thing

[flat forge]

click on construction in skill info, you can see your current sample rate there @young raptor

[gritty elm]

Nope lol now iam and it works thanks

[young raptor]

Huh

Ohh

Lvl 2

[radiant bison]

once u get it youll need to get kills on each mob in each world for the bonuses world 1 example

[young raptor]

[flat forge]

click into it

[young raptor]

Gg I’m cooked

[flat forge]

and you can see your printer sample rate

[radiant bison]

Nah this is how most people feel

[radiant bison]

just get like 25k kills all mobs will drastically increase your kills per hour in that world

[flat forge]

yea so you only have 10% rn

you can increase that up to 90%, the easiest way is through the royal sampler prayer

[young raptor]

What’s that

[flat forge]

a prayer

[radiant bison]

Gaming!

[young raptor]

Where

[flat forge]

🤯

[radiant bison]

(ignore the low level, I need to farm that mat lmao)

[flat forge]

obelisk thing in the bottom left of w3 town, you need to beat wave 21 of the acorn assault tower defense to unlock the prayer

[young raptor]

Oblisk?

How do I create a wizard?

[flat forge]

mage subclass

[young raptor]

What’s subclass and how do I get mage subclass

[radiant bison]

Like barbarian

squire

[young raptor]

Yes I have that

[radiant bison]

its the same obtain method

[flat forge]

so do that but with a mage

and then select wizard

[young raptor]

How?

[radiant bison]

(im too tired to baby the illterate further so imma go to bed night yall)

[flat forge]

how what

[young raptor]

How do I get the mage class

[flat forge]

youve made another character before right 😭

[young raptor]

Yes

[flat forge]

so make a new character

[young raptor]

It has mage class

[flat forge]

then why are you asking how to get the mage class

[young raptor]

Okay so

What now?

[flat forge]

you get to the same guy in w2 that gave you the barbarian class

on the mage

and you make it a wizard

[gritty elm]

How come i get big samples from resources but not from enemies on printers

[radiant bison]

This crap is why I gave up

its like he intentionally being stupid/ignorant to annoy peeps

[young raptor]

Okay wait

[young raptor]

I’m not I jsut struggle to understand

[young raptor]

I don’t remember which part?

[radiant bison]

this right here

[young raptor]

I thought he wanted me to put it on my main char mb

[young raptor]

Oki

[gritty elm]

Yo how do i get more resources from enemies on the printer? I only get good samples from natural resources

[flat forge]

do you have death note unlocked?

[gritty elm]

Yep and alot of kills

I have 460k kills an hojr on green mush but only 3k sample

Hour

[flat forge]

what's your printer sample rate

it's in construction in skill info

you prob need the royal sampler prayer for a lot more printer sample rate

[gritty elm]

56%

[young raptor]

I got the class what now

[final glacier]

hello world

just got to w4, wtf am i doing here

[hallow arrow]

Progressing the game probably

[thorny notch]

Getting back to newplayer chat for the rest of your Idleon life

[final glacier]

im ngl, i prob belong in there anyways kekw

[hallow arrow]

main mechs in w4 are cooking and breeding

[thorny notch]

Don’t neglect lab

[hallow arrow]

oh right yea mb I forget you have to afk there

[final glacier]

ok time to click everything until something does something else

skip all the tutorials and pop ups

[hallow arrow]

I would suggest doing divinity and lab at the same time though cause you eventually get a divinity stance that allows you to level divinity while in lab

[final glacier]

do i upload all my guys to the matrix?

[hallow arrow]

Yea if you want to

[flat forge]

could get their elite classes first

[final glacier]

i knew i should have stayed in newpoayer chat

i assume is the same as when i was picking up subclasses?

wait, if i put people in lab, they cant do anything else?

skilling/mobbing

[hallow arrow]

Correct

Welcome to lab jail

i think you can just stay until your dudes can reach the one node that doubles your kill counts for opening portals

Once you hit that you can get one guy to continue pushing

[thorny notch]

Unless you wanna be extra and get everything

[hallow arrow]

Yea but getting everything is so much easier later on lol

[shy tiger]

is there a limit to how much to how much build rate %/xp boost a character to have? for construction

[shell crane]

does this help with lab?

[rotund umbra]

I love chaos

But this game doesn't let me have it

[royal swan]

I would Love If you @rotund umbra came to pingly 10 for King doot

[rotund umbra]

sure

i have an alt i can use too for the third person if needed

[royal swan]

Yes WE need a worrior

[rotund umbra]

just give me sec

[glad cape]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[glad apex]

How rare is the eternal lord penguin

[leaden wave]

Base shiny chance for it is 0.3%, but you probably have a few shiny critter chance already. Make sure you have a trap with shiny critter chance if you want to focus on it

[glad apex]

Lol im still using the base trap gotta upgrade all them now

[earnest pulsar]

hello i have a question on how to get more dmg in late w2?

[fallow mesa]

I'm completely new to the Atom Collider. What should I focus on?

[solid lion]

Talent and speed potions

[hallow arrow]

Focusing on vault upgrades for damage as well will help out

[somber depot]

Hellos lads and ladets

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[lucid lichen]

Why does IdleonToolbox tell me there are "no more artifacts" even though I can still unlock the omnipotent form? I have unlocked it in spelunking and have other artifacts on omnipotent.

[somber depot]

Because IT is a silly willy lil website and it sometimes doesn't notice that something is upgradeable even if it is upgradeable

[lucid lichen]

Ah okay, i thought i missed something. I went from 2k Artifact find chance to 12k in the last 24 hours and it still shows 0.01% for the fury relic 🙁

[somber depot]

You wanna know something funny?

[lucid lichen]

That's still way too low? 😄

[somber depot]

No, well yes but it's whatever. The thing is that the lowest number that Idleon itself can display for sailing arti chances is 0.01%, meaning that you most likely had lower than 0.01% but it wouldn't show it as the actual value that you do have but the cap of 0.01%. So congrats you probably just got much much closer to getting past 0.01%

[candid creek]

it's so beautiful

Sub 100 when I'm on E43 is crazy

Shut up Nejo don't be so negative and evil

[somber depot]

Nejo let the child have their moment

Wait tusk are you a boy or a girl? Or rather what gender do you identify as

[somber depot]

M4 & 5 is pretty nice

[lucid lichen]

I thought as much. I got the other artifacts to omnipotent so fast, I didn't think it would take that long. but it has been about 3 weeks of 400 chests 2-3 times a day.
Thanks for the help though!

[full reef]

where do i grind for dice obols again

[somber depot]

Either sandy pots or tysons

[full reef]

left this thing afk for 2 hours and its not done jesus christ

[arctic yarrow]

tana finally doing obols.

[somber depot]

Sandy pots for their rare drop of glass shards and tysons because they have the most kph for DK when it comes to active afk

[somber depot]

Active afk?

[somber depot]

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-gif-25945486

[mossy anvil]

why

[somber depot]

Because happy happy happy

[full reef]

afk afk while i grind obols

[full reef]

my obols looking better now

[mossy anvil]

m3 with ww long ago is neglect

and w7 stuff

[candid creek]

Bean

[full reef]

why the fuck did my portal drop up here 😭

[candid creek]

I'm happy I'm progressing

[arctic yarrow]

the classic auto

[full reef]

speaking of obols do i dk for the dice obols

my dk attack speed is still pretty doodoo so killing aint going as rapid as es

[arctic yarrow]

its still better

[full reef]

ok sire

[somber depot]

Ahhhh, good

[full reef]

oh wait my dk is at hole

[somber depot]

Who doesn't neglect

[mossy anvil]

@balmy crystal

[arctic yarrow]

if u dont wanna run aorund meat tyson map, go do sandy pot. its only the rope. so faster kills

[somber depot]

It drops where you are and auto will pop it whenever it's put on

[somber depot]

Okay bean

[broken belfry]

a non neglector

[somber depot]

You'll get there soon enough

[broken belfry]

i summon mjh

[full reef]

rate my sneaking 🔥

why did image go error

[somber depot]

Shush

Nobu is odd

[candid creek]

I have emp wings

[somber depot]

https://tenor.com/view/dababy-lets-go-car-vroom-vroom-gif-21874738

[somber depot]

Fuck off

[full reef]

genuinely dont know what lego building i should do cuz this is all over the place as hell

[opal needle]

aww man im only on 2

[full reef]

the guide only shows the ideal end game with 2 excogia but i aint going that far 💀

[mossy anvil]

[fresh parrot]

hi tama

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1083666361596776472/1398902534281760869/Screenshot_28.png?ex=69672c02&is=6965da82&hm=e263dcc78419ae6391fdb3b7a16173e7f395ffaf2ea7afd3e184fb5c40190493&

bye tama

[somber depot]

You should :p

[full reef]

hi and bye

[full reef]

im f2p without any w6 upgrades yet

[candid creek]

HUH?

[full reef]

totally not cuz i have no idea what to prioritize

[fresh parrot]

all needs to be exp% aswell, that's about it

alright actually nap time

[full reef]

good nap

[somber depot]

Tana

[turbid stag]

You can always replace the big excogia with normal non-directional exp cogs and the small shiny with booster exp cogs. And still follow the guide

[somber depot]

The first packs I bought were last month

[somber depot]

I STILL don't have emp wings

[full reef]

ok but ur ancient im baby

[somber depot]

I need to get 200% minimum

[somber depot]

That's... Actually true

[full reef]

i dont like how its not symmetric

[candid creek]

I got it with just under 70 DR

[full reef]

i thought it said the excogia got the best of all things +board wide boosting

[somber depot]

MOTHERFUCKER

[somber depot]

Well I don't like your cons but I don't complain bout it

Take that duck girl

[full reef]

ok but its not even reaching to the point where i can nitpick myself since im dirt broke

[candid creek]

:3

[full reef]

i dont even know what creature this thing is anymore other than a tomato

[somber depot]

Then stop being dirt broke

[somber depot]

You have duck hat you are now duck girl

[crimson fulcrum]

dm me if anyone want a free pet

[somber depot]

What the heck is that

[turbid stag]

If you don't have excogia and don't want to buy it because it is expensive then you don't have to

[somber depot]

If you don't have crystal printer and don't want to buy it because it's expensive. Cry. Because lava made it damn near impossible to git gud without it

[mossy anvil]

Chicken from final fantasy i think

[full reef]

its a chocobo

[somber depot]

Ahhhh

[full reef]

i mean i did get a single excogia but it would be very nice to have the other one

[somber depot]

I definitely know what that is

[full reef]

its a chocobo what else is it

oh hey the free pet got me smth new

[opal needle]

mmmm FF8?

[full reef]

i watch a certain vtuber and she only recently basically confirmed shes the chicken in ff

lmao

[opal needle]

i don’t get it, but sure XDDD

[mossy anvil]

Same lol

[full reef]

so like what do i do with the spare santa snake

[turbid stag]

[radiant bison]

eldritch fury soon™(like a week or 2 at this rate omniphau + golden hampter OP)

going in order bc its simpler + I dont need +50 talents that badly im past the 200 threshold for talents

[full reef]

how am i supposed to get the ancient artifacts, do i just get it again or its more rare compared to the normal

[radiant bison]

yes, and yes

again AND its more rare

[full reef]

my boats gotta row faster man

[radiant bison]

well once ur speed capped

the solution

[full reef]

am i crazy or the cap on these things r increasing?

[radiant bison]

they are thats intended

[full reef]

whats the source of the increase btw

[radiant bison]

if u see the popup on afk claim go to sailing each time

[mossy anvil]

U have expand toggled

[radiant bison]

damn thats alot %

[full reef]

oh i got that turned on while not reading what it truly does like the idleon player i am

[radiant bison]

Im a rare mutation on the idleon player formula

I can read and do math, the downside is I dont have as much time to play

[mossy anvil]

Burn the witch

[radiant bison]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-slowly-back-away-hide-gif-8014785

refinery speed go brrr

Easiest refinery speed of my life

[vivid rivet]

W

[radiant bison]

based on my pace too 1250 should be in 2-3 days

might be a bit slower if I dont baby sit the build menu as much

what im really excited about is this is soon

10.5 levels till pallette

[vivid rivet]

W

[radiant bison]

Yes im getting this as a backburner

[somber depot]

It gets faster

[radiant bison]

Yea

I just spent 100k orange salts on buildspeed

[full reef]

god i wish my refinery speed was insane

[radiant bison]

Mines like 25-26 times/hr atm

[somber depot]

How much do you have in total?

[full reef]

that said idk where to check my toal speed

[somber depot]

I think mine is sitting at around 80

For red ref ofc

Nearly sub 30

Someone gimmie a panda and I'll almost be sub 15

[full reef]

is there a spot to check my total refinery speed boost

[somber depot]

IT

[full reef]

time to wait 5 hours to find it

i have truly been neglecting salt

[sinful zodiac]

My dog just died 😭

[full reef]

my condolence and hope your fine

[sinful zodiac]

My other pets are also mourning

[tranquil raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-rip-sad-sponge-bob-stephen-hillenburg-crying-sponge-bob-squidward-gif-12966776

[barren hemlock]

Is there some setting that shows the amount of kills needed to unlock the next portal. It stopped appearing after I reached W4 I think. I don't think I made any changes. :(

[red relic]

nope. it is just gone

[obtuse thistle]

can someone explain to me how the boosts everything works? i was under the assumption that every cog/player gets that bonus but the cons exp doesnt add up

[barren hemlock]

😭

[full reef]

r these bonuses random?

[vivid rivet]

In most cases yes

Their great

I like the hat rack thingy got quite a few hats still need to get more though

[dense fable]

what a beautiful day we have, but
WHEN IS UPDATE

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gun-gif-8510554628372069925

[vivid rivet]

I wanna know too dont shoot

[full reef]

i have a feeling this upgrade is essential

i got 530 rn any no other upgrades in w6

[vivid rivet]

The chesh piece is also great

[radiant bison]

Slowly ranking up my orange salts on occasion, making sure to make alot more red ranks first

[radiant bison]

ur green and purple are so high ranked compared to mine yet no void

[full reef]

it is very great but rn i think jade would really boost my sneaking start

[vivid rivet]

Yes

[full reef]

this is my IT on salt and idk if its good at all

[radiant bison]

the chess peice requires u to have decent summoning first else it doesnt give that much so yea id get jade

[radiant bison]

a tad faster than mine

(not for long though)

[full reef]

it will be for long the moment killroy wakes up

[radiant bison]

I gaining like 2-3% faster addative every few hrs rn

[full reef]

trust trust

[radiant bison]

oh shit I forgot to do my killroy

ty for reminder

[full reef]

thas nuts

oh the misery

[vivid rivet]

My killroy hasnt woken up yet

[radiant bison]

new vial!

[turbid stag]

OJ JOOCE!!

[opal needle]

you should try the one in hong kong, its DIVINE

[radiant bison]

I already hit my sailing speed goals rn though

[full reef]

i should try my luck with vials

[radiant bison]

but itll help w/ past fury

[wild fiber]

3 level more to unlock shiny pet
its been long

[full reef]

no cooking speed for me 💔

[radiant bison]

did mah killroy

Ill be ready for next event ig

[radiant bison]

Mood

[full reef]

salt progress withheld

i need those cycles from killroy atp

[radiant bison]

ah u salt locked urself

[full reef]

i dont even have atom collider yet

[radiant bison]

too much blue production for sure

[full reef]

its 1 rank too much

[radiant bison]

I barely produce green/purple

but its that or I run outta blue

blue is staying there till rank 22+ red

bc I dont need salt THAT badly and what I do need speed is better than ranks bc it doesnt break mah balance

[full reef]

should i try to get more ot try to attempt ancient one of the few i have rn

[vivid rivet]

Im missing not alot of vialsand i need 99+ to unlock em

[full reef]

here i am not yet crowning even gcap or copper or oak

[radiant bison]

I crowned oak

not copper yet

Ill crown it once I get flouride

[full reef]

i lowkey stopped printing oak so i can print other logs to gstack

the first time im seeing this guy and im BROKE

[radiant bison]

Im printing oak rn to get it back to atoms range

not gstacking too hard yet myself

[full reef]

i was only gstacking for equinox lmao

[radiant bison]

oh come on

ofc wehn I do a casual spam I get it

[full reef]

gamba

[radiant bison]

guess ill get +4 chest slots

I pray I get this eldritch first

and not the dream catcher

[full reef]

im praying i get anything at all

[radiant bison]

this # refuses to go down

which is a good thing

[radiant bison]

thats some bad arti chance

[full reef]

i have nothing to even have a chance bonus currently

[radiant bison]

I got for looting and sailing speed bc that matters more tbh

[radiant bison]

u in w5 or 6?

[vivid rivet]

Most my stuff are above level9

[radiant bison]

if world 6 pushing your summoning is easier tbh

[full reef]

got to w6 but done about nothing at all for both w5 and 6

[vivid rivet]

It doesnt

[radiant bison]

Can u reach baby troll on ur bubo?

[full reef]

my summoning is starting off slow so i gotta wait

[radiant bison]

if u can reach baby troll on ur bubo just doing its quest isnt too bad

~125 talents required

[full reef]

btw my best slot with the most investment still got 7k kph on the first map

[radiant bison]

I did it w/ 3k/hr

[full reef]

thas crazy

[radiant bison]

It was worth the 3 or 4 day wait per map

Ill say that as someone who is in endless summoning now

[full reef]

im taking my time slowly

[radiant bison]

Same I took my time

[full reef]

filling the progress on w5 and other stuff i set back

[radiant bison]

Though I beat all of summoning in like 5 days

bc cost reduction go BRRRR

ok fr it was like 2 weeks

[full reef]

oh nah not that taking my time im basically not pushing w6 at all

[radiant bison]

ah

fair whats ur dmg?

[full reef]

like im literally sitting on div with 3 gods

[full reef]

still setting my damage cards

[radiant bison]

ah THAT

[radiant bison]

I just do dr and crystal spawn chance cards

[civic fjord]

About to make my 9th toon and did some research... I thought the ES was only good/useful as active farming. But I see guides suggesting a second one as part of the final 10, What am I missing here? 7th is a DK and 8th is Maestro.

[radiant bison]

divinity

[full reef]

this is my guy on damage cards

[radiant bison]

for the dootless this lets u have kruk and purrmep passively up simultanously

[full reef]

on dr and crystal its half of that

[radiant bison]

that looks like my dmg entering w6

double actually, w/o a weapon is how I roll though

[radiant bison]

a third ES is overkill ill say that

[full reef]

yeah but im not the type to go in bashing my head against the wall until it cracks lmao

i at least prepare a helmet b4 doing that

[radiant bison]

I literally just left the 3 morons sitting afk for their masterclasses

while I was getting my gmush kills up

WW was first to get

[full reef]

i threw my 2 bb to gmush for kills rn

[radiant bison]

Ah

I have 2 dk 2 es

only 1 bb

ofc I also have the child labor char

[full reef]

i have 2 dk 2 es 1 sb 1 bm 1 bubo 1 vman rn

[civic fjord]

So 2nd ES is a good 9th?

[radiant bison]

doot y/n

[civic fjord]

?

[full reef]

and 2 bb ofc

[opal needle]

god? HELP

[radiant bison]

Im gonna assume u dont have the doot pet then

[radiant bison]

Not bad kph

[civic fjord]

nope LOL

[radiant bison]

Yea 2nd es will be helpful if u wanna have kruk god active w/ purrmep

2nd chars of a class is more utility

than necessity you only NEED one of each

[opal needle]

horrible compared to what it used to be

[radiant bison]

double dk is pretty damn good though effective double speed for progress in construction

[civic fjord]

I have double DK, and just starting the Deathnote grind for Vman

[radiant bison]

damn

[full reef]

wait no way rift slug adds 25 to all stats instead of giving 25 stats?

[opal needle]

yeah, thats basically it

you didn't know?

[radiant bison]

talents

[full reef]

I CAN ACTUALLY GET 2 DK SQUIRE STATUE THINGY

[opal needle]

riftslug would be worthless if it was only 25 talent points

[full reef]

purp

[opal needle]

the purpetrator

[radiant bison]

I just want litterfish and balloon

just one of the 2

[vital ether]

New world 4 here is best choice to put all my lab ppl into divinity or no?

[full reef]

this death note does not look good

[civic fjord]

Way better than mine

[radiant bison]

yea speedrunning goharut and getting arctis is nice

[radiant bison]

besides gmush on adv ur a tad higher than mine

[full reef]

whats goharut number again

[radiant bison]

5

[vital ether]

ok ty

[radiant bison]

2 gods away from u

[radiant bison]

arctis means lab bonus even when not in lab

[full reef]

oh gods please bless me with more divinity

[vital ether]

how long does that usually take do you know ?

[radiant bison]

rng

so itll depend on ur early sialing rng and ur divinity rng

[full reef]

for arctis not too long in general but after that the divinity point scaling shoots up insanely

[vital ether]

Alright cheers

[radiant bison]

this is after getting my multis insanely high per char

well for my stage in the game its insane

since no badger bc I cnat be assed

kruk is so good!

[full reef]

i have to decide whether i want to throw my guys to the hole or div when i go to sleep

[vital ether]

is there a bubble that increases divinity ?

[full reef]

or rift as well

[left shuttle]

Hello

[full reef]

hello mr bean

[left shuttle]

Yes, indirectly

[radiant bison]

div first usually

though if ur doing the first of the 2 afks for monuments

it might be worth it to do 3days of that afk or so

then divinity just bc that lets hole ramp more passively w/o player afk

[full reef]

my monument is on the second one already so im gonna have to decide if i want to rift or div

next rift is the stamp one

but thats 5m afk kills

and for whatever reason my kph doesnt impact it somehow

unless it doesnt take into account multikill bonus

[radiant bison]

get these atleast if ur gonna do it all at once

[full reef]

my dk is forever stuck here when im awake

[radiant bison]

I stopped bothering around layer 6 or so

then touched it later reached 10

[full reef]

i am not doing it all at once im just gonna leave it at the second one and work on the ohter ones

[radiant bison]

my speed went up so much bc I was willing to bite the bullet ig

[full reef]

damn even with rift slug i still cant hit 200

[civic fjord]

Scale of 1-10... how worth the effort is the Eclectic Ordeal for the Maestro?

[radiant bison]

what about library???

[full reef]

throwing books at vman

[radiant bison]

ah

[full reef]

i want those PRINTS

i want them CRACKED

i should still try to get my tenteyecle as high as i can tbh

im lacking blue salt to max out the library in salt lick rn

cuz salt lock

[radiant bison]

my slowest boat rn

besides the ones I literally dont have ze mats for

[full reef]

my fastest boat rn

[radiant bison]

my lvl 0 0 boats are at 1.7k

[full reef]

what rushing w5 does to a man

[radiant bison]

Ah

I didnt rush to w5

I took my sweet time

[full reef]

i rushed it for passive bonuses in w6

[radiant bison]

if u did it for that

[full reef]

so now im taking my time

[radiant bison]

then u better have ur 3 masterclassable chars

gridning to get that real quick

[full reef]

eeeh

[radiant bison]

just having them makes the w6 skills 10x easier for farming and 100x-10000x easier for the other 2

[full reef]

i want divinity

[radiant bison]

those 3 will live w/o ~4 days of div grind

they can catchup if needed

[full reef]

i havent even unlocked onyx statues 🥹

[arctic yarrow]

[full reef]

honestly if its my es i could throw in all my damage food for him and push w6 since the majority of the other slots r just afk gaming

[radiant bison]

SAME

[full reef]

this is just sad

[radiant bison]

Thats not that bad for early w6

its not gonna get much better either till u get master classes

Just having ES w/ this made summoning so much easier

[full reef]

i honestly cant tell how i should be building bb for afk gains

should i even throw bubo to push

or i should do it with my es since its much faster

[radiant bison]

bubo would get ya masterclass for it faster, though really just pushing all 3 u need in w6 would be best past mama trolls isnt necessary for a while

and w7 is just not happening w/ ur stats(hell its not happening w/ mine) but u can do mama trolls atleast

[full reef]

am i crazy or these 2 things dont even improve my kph

[radiant bison]

active skills dont affect ur kph that much

[full reef]

oh theyre actives

[radiant bison]

yea

thats what the notch means

[full reef]

with no respawn mechanics

[radiant bison]

Ironically he was easier than bubo

my bubo did it w/ 500m max dmg or something stupid low

[full reef]

no i mean ik its active but some active skills dont count into kph

[radiant bison]

Yea

[unborn dome]

Aaccidentally sold my hermit cans

needed them forboxes

[radiant bison]

rip

[full reef]

back to the fishing u go

[radiant bison]

heres my damage that cant handle getting to w7 btw