midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[opal needle]

why do i feel like i've said that before

[stone shadow]

is he trying to destroy the statue or smth

[radiant bison]

Its not entirely bad w/ cc but yea I get ya

[opal needle]

yeah, the rebellion has been rly active lately

[arctic yarrow]

[radiant bison]

nah this time I was just hungry

and copper is tasty

[opal needle]

💀

[radiant bison]

so I hired a guy to get me more copper didnt say where from

[opal needle]

......i bet you payed 5 cents for a guy like that

[radiant bison]

nah, 1 whole dollah

[opal needle]

overpriced

[broken oxide]

what would you guys go far as 8th character? i have one of each already. Currenly progressing in world 4

[opal needle]

do u have Vman

[broken oxide]

ye

[opal needle]

uhhhh sb? (i just looked at my 8th char lmao)

also

!weeklyboss

[candid scarab]

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[opal needle]

mm..... bad trophy shop today

[stone shadow]

letsgooo unfortunately i forgot the slab exist and i dont pick up anything

is there a higher form than ancient

[dusky galleon]

Yee

Yes three more tiers

But you need to unlock the ability to get them 1st

T3 from rift t4 from emperor t5 from spelunking

[rotund acorn]

T4 is from the jade shop in world 6. T5 is from whallamus in world 7

[fair hare]

DK, for construction.

[mossy anvil]

what are last 2 at musselini? im at 30 fails already

[turbid stag]

Today's Giveaways:
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[opal needle]

feels like fallen spirits pets were harder to get when it was in rotation than shallow waters while in rotation

[true hamlet]

Yeah no.. I'm lazy to enter

[shut hull]

I already have these companions

[fading sleet]

!breeding

[shut hull]

[lyric tiger]

Rift skull quests are a pain..

[arctic yarrow]

pearl value and another discount if i remember correctly

[mossy anvil]

ty

finally done

[fair hare]

Do liquid cap boosts not kick in until reset or something? I've upgraded a vial and the alchemy bubble some, the salt lick bonus by quite a bit, and took the stamp from something like 30->40, and it doesn't seem to have changed.

[opal needle]

try reloading the game

[fair hare]

I thought I did, but maybe not, will try now. (lol, been messing with this all morning. I need one more dense water. :/

Annnnd of course that is when CC hits again. lol.

[opal needle]

hehehe.

[fair hare]

The thing that sucks about that is that after it's done and I restart, if it DOES work I won't know for 20 minutes or so when it comes up again.

[shadow citrus]

Is there an ideal Shiny Critter setups guide anywhere? I cannot seem to find it searching the forum

[opal needle]

oh.....

[opal needle]

silkskin traps, 20 mins, 20 hours if you forget, if you have royal traps, then use those instead

[fair hare]

Also, https://idleoninsight.com/?search=shiny critter

[fair hare]

Nope. So annoying. I guess I'm going to have to hook the Lab node back up again, leave Bubo Active and walk away for 4 hours. lol.

[opal needle]

oof

[fair hare]

I'm gonna try a couple of more things, though at this point, had I had that lab node on, I would be more than done right now. lol.

Even if I just turned it on when i started this AM.

[faint crystal]

1 mil substats 🎊

[fading abyss]

at what point do i farm for obols?

[fair hare]

Grats! Mine mostly look like this, lol.

[fair hare]

Do you have Choco Chip?

[celest quarry]

Are those Mid games stats ?

[fair hare]

Mine are mid, and the Str etc. are probably really low for my level. Working on it.

[fading abyss]

the lab chip?

[fair hare]

Yes

[fading abyss]

yup just got 1

[fair hare]

Awesome - what's your droprate (prolly on DK?)

[fair hare]

I think the gigafrogs, that is just a regular drop for POPs. The dice are a crystal drop. IIRC, dice are crystal crabs at sand giants, and you'll want to equip crystal cards if you've got them. But if your DR is super low maybe wait a bit?

[fading abyss]

drop rarity?

[fair hare]

Yes :)

[fading abyss]

5x atm without shrine

[fair hare]

Ahh. I might wait until I had my drop rate up some?

I think people told me 15 or something, but I also think I started it sooner than that. But 5 would be kinda slow.

(But you would still get there, lol.)

[fading abyss]

im trying to figure out how to get it up cause i also need to do the obsidian statue quest

[fair hare]

lol. I ended up doing that in the middle of doing everyone's DR obols, lol.

Maybe go ahead and start farming at Giga Frogs, because that will get you some Pops for yours/family's DR?

And sec, there's a list around somewhere for DR.

[fading abyss]

oh yeah i got a couple DR obols i can move over as well, and probably some equipment as well

[lusty lava]

ES for gigafrogs, I started mine at 5.7~ droprate, it isnt tooooo slow around 10~ an hour

[fair hare]

And it gets a little better as you go, too!

(Fragments were what killed me. lol.)

[lusty lava]

Would definitely wait for DR squares on DK. Took me a while to get a couple after a few hours

[fair hare]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CBIFVMjxQssmac4G0RQhScOcyz8POtx2h9cY1mutk5g/edit?gid=1617875583#gid=1617875583

[mossy anvil]

[fair hare]

I get some of mine from Cards (and a card set, which isn't included here)

(I should work on those some more some day. :P)

[vast elk]

Got a question on hole w/ the divinity link upgrade. At level 1 I get to choose a single god to link to. Do I have the ability to change that god at level 1 or do i have to wait for other upgrades?

[merry rover]

how do you get no meal left behind?

[fair hare]

Jade Emporium or the Sacred Methods bundle

[merry rover]

wait i forgot i have that unlocked

[fair hare]

I have it unlocked and I also have the Sacred Methods pack. I don't know if that means than one of them is working and the other is not or if they both work together.

(Sacred Methods does 2 a day.)

[merry rover]

what is the highest meal level currently possible

[final fable]

I'm confused by rift progression, why did I go from needing 5k skulls and 5m afk kills to 200k afk kills and 1k skulls (I had the basically the same number of kills per hour) and now im back to 5m kills. it doesnt make any sense to me

[fair hare]

Not sure...I'd like to know that, as well. Didn't it go up with W7?

[finite viper]

is it better to farm clams for statues on ac or dk

[final fable]

no i did all my rift progression in the last 2-3 days

so maybe it went up but the inconsistancy isnt from w7 update

[fair hare]

I was talking to Salemuddinor about Meals.

[final fable]

ohh mb

[strange flare]

Because as he released rift levels increased the requirements to more match the late game when they launched

[fair hare]

They are all different, some are easier some are harder. There's a list of all of them in the Wiki

[merry rover]

i think its like 120

or more cuz i just saw a guy hit like 113 in the achievements tab

[fair hare]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Rift#Rift_Challenges (You have to click "Expand")

Ugh, Rift 47. SOMEday. lol.

[manic moat]

anyone have a "cranium cooking" guide? people keep telling to use it, but it doesnt do much
im 100% using it not optimally

[fair hare]

You need Tentacycle 200+ for it to work well, and as high of a CC as you can.

And apparently the Equinox upgrade, liquivestment (or something) will raise your liquid caps some how, though not 100% sure how that works, except you're supposed to leave the lab node for liquid off.

[fair hare]

But I didn't notice much either, until Tentacycle passed 200.

(Now if I leave it active, it'll run about 3x an hour in Oranges.

Damn it, why isn't the Salt Lick liquid bonus working? :(

[fading abyss]

is there a way to check crystal mob spawn chance?

[fair hare]

I think I check that in IT, lol.

(There's probably some way in game, but I don't know it.)

[fading abyss]

lmao thanks found it xD

[edgy mauve]

Whats the best meals to apply ribbons to? I have two and im thinking egg and pie

[fair hare]

https://imgur.com/24XSf5Z This came from somewhere here, but I lost the original Discord link.

[edgy mauve]

Oh there are meals in the future that do the same thing but stronger - didnt know that

Thats definitely worth saving for then

Thought there was only 1 of each and was thinking cooking speeds would give the most long term gain

[fair hare]

Plus, keep in mind that a L15 Ribbon, for example, takes 16384 T1 ribbons (or half that many T2, etc.) to make.

[edgy mauve]

Wtf lmao thats insane

I got the two ribbons I have from events i think

[fair hare]

You'll get some in game eventually. Plus I have a pack that gives me extra. But I wouldn't waste them. :)

[fading abyss]

cabbage is early and good so probably the best meal to ribbon first

[edgy mauve]

Yeah youre definitely right for sure. Cooking times are crazy long rn so thats why I wanted to use em but bought 3 buffed kitchens and I'm doing my recipes on em

And normal cooking on the other ones

[fair hare]

There are many many ways to speed the kitchen up without a ribbon :)

[edgy mauve]

Yeah fs im starting to unlock some stamps and stuff like that

Thank you for the tips i think i would have fked up otherwise lol

[radiant bison]

I got to island 9 in sailing +25 max talent books!

[fair hare]

Hey if you go here, and scroll down a little bit to Cooking Speed, you'll see a very long list. :https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Cooking#Bonuses

[fair hare]

I got that yesterday or day before! Have everybody shooting for the next level now, lol.

[faint crystal]

jjk season 3 is out!!

[radiant bison]

Im still going for 1k books used so for now im just spamming books

[fair hare]

Are you at atoms yet? I have 10 more than you, and I think that is where they came from, is the atom thingy.

[radiant bison]

I have atoms but not atom collider

[fair hare]

No I mean, all my ships are hitting Cloud 9 until I get that sucker. lol.

[radiant bison]

oh yea im doing that

I got a .5% for ancient

[fair hare]

Ah, fairly early one that will jump you up 10 more levels, once you build it.

[radiant bison]

all ships have the speed for 2hrs

[fair hare]

I'm not sure of mine. I did get the third level on one of my artifacts.

[radiant bison]

I dont have those unlocked yet

[fair hare]

Is that a rift thing? Not sure. lol.

[radiant bison]

yes thats rift

I just havnt pushed rift in a bit, thats my next goal once I hit my goal in hole

[edgy mauve]

I need to get that chefs essential post office so I can get more eff on my berseker for sure. Def gonna sliwly read over this when im a bit deepee in

[radiant bison]

soon

[fair hare]

lol. I had no goals, so someone went through my account last night and gave me one. One of the early ones was to upgrade everyone's skulls. I have been trying since 4 AM, but my liquid upgrades aren't working and I'm out of dense water and I need one more dense water. It's infuriating, lol. But they gave me a bunch of other goals, should probably just switch to those.

[fair hare]

Going faster with what you showed me but I am still weeks away. :/

[radiant bison]

This type of goal just do the daily dense water the price resets daily

how many atoms/day you at?

[fair hare]

Yeah, I mostly do dense water when I need it, lol. But I've added boost all over the place, and even added 20 levels to salt lick, and it just won't change.

[radiant bison]

im at ~25-75 depending on vman rng

[fair hare]

Almost none, right now, because I have them turned off. But I think it is a few thousand when I have them on.

[radiant bison]

turned off?

I just leave it at the item limit

[fair hare]

Making rss that I actually need.

[radiant bison]

why would u turn it off when it deletes past the item limit regardless

[radiant bison]

rss?

[fair hare]

Because I need the other resources, lol.

[radiant bison]

oh dif resources

mine is mostly from copper

which I just leave on a single printer doing that

basically my refinery prints are my atoms rn

[fair hare]

Well...I am not spending the atoms that I do make for the most part right now, because I'm trying to get the upgrade costs cheaper. Maybe when I get to L30 on the Collider. I have them all open that I can get to, though.

[fair hare]

I am upgrading a bunch of different parts of the game at the same time, so this is more efficient for me right now. :) Anyway, that'll change once I'm actually buying the upgrades.

When I turn copper back on, it only takes an hour or so to get back to atom range even from empty.

I need to start resampling again, though. My only Jungle Log was like...2k with boost. I sampled it today and it was 10.6m. All of my wounds in this game are self-inflicted, I swear, including the dense water. lol.

I still wish I knew why the liquid upgrades aren't working.

Maybe I'm just misreading it, idk.

[gritty hare]

question, does the 1000000 afk kills in the rift have to be done in one afk sitting or can it be spread out?

[wise zinc]

.cough, cough. Conjuring

[dawn sapphire]

Does anyone know if it has to be custards?

[fading abyss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1084967526955499600/1084967527173591050/PetFightChart.png?ex=6960d980&is=695f8800&hm=d7557dcb452eb915e6f81866319ef09a2e4c9af40c46bfc1d14bd7d9c5a02a3d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
what does this mean with highest tank and fighting?

[fair hare]

You can spread it out. You can also do it with multiple people at the same time.

[gritty hare]

Thanks

[fair hare]

Yes, lol, specifically like he says. :)

[dawn sapphire]

Asked because it just says crystal kills here

[fair hare]

It's W4 kills.

[dawn sapphire]

Also, realized I could just have tested it a minute after I asked

THank you btw

[fair hare]

S'okay. I haven't even done that quest yet, but you are definitely not the only one who asks, which is the only reason I know!

[sick bronze]

looking for people to kill doot (on pizza 1) 1/1 warrior 0/1 archer 0/1 mage

[tight coyote]

Did I bug out the troll or does it just stop doing the "mindgames" after a certain point?

[languid wyvern]

ANyone have any advice for the W3 giga frog quest bug?

[tranquil raptor]

Should I do that or not? Right now in w5

[fair hare]

Trolls is buggy. Once you pass a certain quest it should stop bugging, apparently.

[fair hare]

What is the quest name? Don't know if I can help, but W3 Gigafrog Quest is not ringing any bells with me.

[fair hare]

YOu should ask @woeful karma - He did that, I think.

[woeful karma]

hello yes I am Zuiq

[fair hare]

lol

[woeful karma]

would advise against it

it supposedly has some bugs that might mess with breeding and other things

plus seeing as you can time candy w6
it's honestly just better to push to w6 and get it normally

also another big issue for early ww is talents
and mana
looking at your stats klevel and mana)
it won't exactly be as useful as you think imo

I did it because I was still early w3 and had lv 300-400 players and even then it was a bit annoying to get it going

talent points are the real killer for it imo

but in my personal opinion/recommendation I'd hold off on it
it's probably quicker to push to w6 then jt is to work on making early ww usable

[woeful karma]

it's the 20 kills one yeah

sometimes something something hitting troll too soon or too quick causes a softlock where be becomes permanent immune

[woeful karma]

for refrence though
my max talent Is 160
and talent boosters pushing me up to 206(160)
I'm in w4
lv 600 ww
700 skill levels (plus 420 con, and 260 lab) for talents at a rate of 3 per class level after idr what threshold, and 1 per 5 skill levels)

and even then I'm only able to get 9/15 of the talents to 206

my foundation is stable enough to support early ww
both in normal form and in tempest form

but early game ww due to jts inherent nature as Master class it's a massive mana hog
if your struggling with mana even somewhat remotely with elite classes ww is 4x worse imo lol

(Also as I said above about the talents)

hope this helps somewhat!

[fair hare]

Haha you were definitely the guy to ask. :)

[tranquil raptor]

Humm, i will hold thanks for the help

[fading abyss]

the tease lol

[fair hare]

Sooooo close. lol.

[fading abyss]

only took ~2 weeks >.<

[languid wyvern]

Laughing Amphibian

[fading abyss]

damnit it rounds up, i want to go sleep already

[fair hare]

It takes a while, yeah, but you get faster pretty quickly. I'm leveling mine a bit before I start leveling any atom boosts (though I have all the boosts now). L25 is around 1.3B. It's in a trimmed slot, and will take about 6 hours for me, but even without the trimmed slot, it's only about 18. A month ago it probably one have taken a month. :P

[fair hare]

Ahh, apparently he self-heals. Sec.

(Never have done that quest.)

[bleak stirrup]

Does the Troll in W4 bug out often? I've wasted so many tries where he allows you to attack but you can't do damage.

[fair hare]

Yeah, but once you get through the "20 tasks" quest, it stops bugging out.

[fair hare]

Is it just that it's self healing, or can you not target it, or...?

[bleak stirrup]

Thanks

[tight coyote]

No bug. You're just not doing enough damage for it to be visible. Just have your guy start attacking it then go get a snack. It'll die eventually. I had that happen to me too thinking I wasn't doing anything to it.

[fair hare]

Thanks. I haven't done that one, but was reading various comments and that's what it sounded like, that it just takes a while.

[manic moat]

where do you guys find guides in this server exactly? trying to go of youtube from some skills i lack on but every video is like 35 minutes bro

[balmy crystal]

asking, pins, tips n tricks

[fading abyss]

oh ffs why does entering the portal to the dungeon end the speedrun >.<

[balmy crystal]

entering dungeon map reset all effect and speedrun is an effect as well :P

[manic moat]

1q = 1000t?
also the accuracy is in milions i assume
i want to know if i can defeat him before burning 70 keys

[balmy crystal]

yeah and you dont have to worry about acc

[manic moat]

thats 0.2T right?

[balmy crystal]

yuh

[manic moat]

ok then i cant defeat him

[fair hare]

I got him the first time and I think my guys were lower than you are now.

[balmy crystal]

have taken in consideration your crit dmg and chance

[manic moat]

not much
tried to optimize it as i can

[fair hare]

But I feel your pain on risking all those keys.

[balmy crystal]

yeah no, come back later

[fair hare]

So curious...what are you using? I might be able to drop mine down to about that damage. (Not sure how many Kruk keys I have, so I'd probably only try it once.) I remember it took a while the first time, and it was the first time I had a slight issue with the moles.

[manic moat]

idk my accounts all over the place tbh

[fair hare]

Oh, I meant what class

[manic moat]

oh thats dk

im stuck at alot of skills thats why im looking for guides

[fair hare]

I would have used either DK or Bubo, so lemme see if I can knock DK down about. (lol, waiting for a call, I'm bored. :P)

[manic moat]

my liquid regen sucks, still at like only 20/h

[fair hare]

Ugh - I have been trying to raise my third liquid cap since I got up at 3, gave up about an hour ago. It wouldn't go up, even with 20 levels of the blobulyte guys on W3 (forget what they are called).

Sec, lemme look at my DK.

[manic moat]

oh also i have golem if that matters

got it for a whallamus luckily

[fair hare]

I have a golem...mostly, though, just going to try to set my damage around what yours is.

[final fable]

what does lab efficiency actually do?

[radiant bison]

Ive never seen this popup before

[fair hare]

It's harder than I thought to lower him. I can do it just by going to the skilling profile, but then he doesn't have any attacks, lol. I'll figure it out. :)

[radiant bison]

I lack golem

Id have 200b damage if I had golem

[balmy crystal]

you lack a proper weapon

[radiant bison]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[shell summit]

the lvl 1 spear

😂

[radiant bison]

It even has w1 stones used on it

[celest quarry]

Hey ! What is better, idle char in Divinity or labs ? both aren't leveled up

[shell summit]

no effort what so ever and u still have more damage than me

[dense pine]

div till you get goat god, then lab with goat god equiped

[shell summit]

(still painful nw)

[celest quarry]

So i focus divinity and put no one in labs for now ?

[radiant bison]

div then labs w/ goharut equiped

[celest quarry]

Thanks !

[radiant bison]

basically you can do both at once later w/ the 5th god in divinity

[celest quarry]

Gonna take a while i guess no ? x)

[fair hare]

I can't get it low enough. I ran out of talent resets today, but took everything I could including strength and wisdom, removed every bit of his gear, including his weapon. Sheesh.

[manic moat]

damn appreciated to take your time for this

[fair hare]

haha, no prob! I really wanted to try it. I probably should have just given the skill preset attacks or something, might have worked.

Now I gotta put him back together.

[manic moat]

did u manage to kill nightmare kruk?

[mossy anvil]

gear is good enough

[fair hare]

I didn't try, 'cause I still would have had quite a bit more than you.

But my guys were all pretty low when I got him the first time.

[minor yoke]

So you guys still crafting amarok armor ? Is it this worth ?

[mossy anvil]

@balmy crystal

SushiWide

[balmy crystal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/604399977065742350/790901812939980850/8980_Tea_Sip.gif

[radiant bison]

its one of the cheapest armors in idleon besides the helm

[fair hare]

(My guys weren't pitiful when I beat him, but pretty sure they were lower than what you're running. But if you're short on keys, I probably wouldn't risk it, because the rewards are too good for 1 and 5 or whatever they are.)

[manic moat]

i have like 200+ atm

i progressed all my characters through w5 so mobs dropped keys

just unlocked windwalker, he seems so cool

[minor yoke]

OK so worth it crafting it to apply some accuracy for your guys then. Do u recommand to put it on all character ?

[radiant bison]

I didnt bother crafting weapons beyond the level 1 any class gear lmao

I cant say much on that subject, I only really craft gear for skilling

the difference between recipe speed and cooking speed lmao

I know what caused this

its just funny to me how rediculous the difference is

[regal pond]

Progressing through W4 with my DK, while all other toons are on lab. Should I start moving the other classes or just keep pushing to W5?

[radiant bison]

(doesnt help that its 3.5 days/try for 6.5% odds for the last meal I can unlock w/ my spices is irking me a lil)

[regal pond]

is there a goal for lab level?

[radiant bison]

there is a goat that lets u divinity grind while in lab

[radiant bison]

You got the elite classes?

then not really

W5 2nd god in divinity lets u have some lab bonuses w/o anyone in lab

[regal pond]

yeah, I pushed everyone already to elite. Was just thinking if I should stay for a while at W4 working through my resource farming or just keep going on DK or whatever other class that will be more useful

[fair hare]

Eventually a total of 2100 when added together. (Extra gems or something.) There are also breakpoints with some boosts ahead of that in Skill Mastery if you've gotten to rift 16.

(I'm only about halfway through the 2100, I think, so not a hurry-up thing for me. :) )

[regal pond]

Im like 25-32 on each, so not even close. Not sure if I should leave everyone in there or just leave the ones required to activate the 2x kills and No Bubble left Behind

[fair hare]

I put bubo on the left, and gradually was able to take people out, one at a time. I also hit chars 9 and 10 during that period, so I made beginners and just stuck them in the lab. Eventually you won't have to stay there all the time to have the nodes work, but you won't get exp if you're out of the lab.

[fair hare]

I think I left 3d printer, refinery, Bubble, 2x kills on all the time. The shrine one can be pretty useful, but I think those four are critical. They're pretty much all good, though!

(Or you could put Bubo on the right, to pass off XP to everyone, instead.)

[regal pond]

I think I’ll try to remove some others slowly while keeping essential buffs. I want to have more people farming stuff on different maps

[fair hare]

Makes sense. I juggled like crazy at the beginning. (Reallly disliked lab.) Only took a couple of weeks before it eased way up, though.

[dusk plover]

does anyone know how i can add a email to my steam idleon account

[pliant echo]

Does anyone know if there's a max for % Bonus Construct Exp on cogs?

[pulsar basin]

It depends on you Construction's Level, isn't it

[pliant echo]

Ah, I thought I heard somewhere there was like max stats, and rarity effected them

[fair hare]

Not what you asked, but someone posted this the other day, and I found it really interesting. (Gotta make a copy of it.) I can't get anywhere NEAR the numbers for my construction level with my account, but I am not the best example of a great cog board/construction setup. lol.) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-WVcuc5AHtCsAEFy48lAvBzYKLuSIwMp1IU8sqUMpUU/edit?gid=0#gid=0

(It does have a "highest possible cog" spot.)

[pliant echo]

Ooh, thank you

[fair hare]

Looking at it again, I wonder if it is total construction level, or what?!? lol. I should see where this came from. He probably explained it.

[pliant echo]

It looks like the highest possible cog there is calculated based on construction level

[fair hare]

It actually makes more sense if it's like...based on my highest character.

(I mean...if I put my main DK's level in there, the numbers kind of agree with what I actually get.)

[fair hare]

lmao. Let me see if I can track this down. YET another rabbit hole. 🤣

[pliant echo]

Ohh okay

[fair hare]

Haha, I finally had guessed at mine and went...wait, that's really close to what I actually get!! So I searched. :P

Well...now it actually IS useful to me, rather than just interesting.

[edgy wyvern]

mistakes have been made. I'm going to be here for a while

also first worship since actually leveling my towers

[fair hare]

Nice!

[edgy wyvern]

my best max before this was wave 39

[mossy anvil]

spreading baka wisdom

[fair hare]

It's weird, I haven't used ES for Worship in a very long time, considering she's the Worship expert. I should try it again. Everyone always told me to use BM instead.

[mossy anvil]

are u screenshoting stuff and saving for later

[fair hare]

You mean like that link or something? I have the board now, and now I'll remember how it works, so all good. That thing is great fun and shows me just how shitty my cog board is. lol.

[mossy anvil]

this

[fair hare]

Nah, searched and screenshotted what he said, because otherwise his post was just the Google doc, which I'd already posted. :)

(It was just in the search bar.)

[mossy anvil]

gotcha

[fair hare]

lmao but...credit where credit is due. :)

[heavy spear]

Hello, I wanted to ask, lets say i have 10m kills on poops. now what does my deathnote give me exactly? does it give me multikill on everything? or only poops?

[fair hare]

Everything on W1

It'll show you the total of all your W1 maps (for example) on the Death note, and all maps on W1 will get that bonus.

[heavy spear]

oh so deathnote gives worldwide bonus, but each bonus is seperated by different worlds. like if I kill sheepie in w3, I start to build up multikill in all of w3 only, and nothing for w2 or 4 yes?

[fair hare]

Yep, exactly!

lol, which is always a bit of a shock for me when I reach a new world.

[arctic yarrow]

there is an upgrade from w6 where miniboss kills give mk to all world btw

[fair hare]

Where in W6? (lol, I must confess, I mostly ignore minibosses except MMush, unless I run into 'em like Baba Yaga.)

[arctic yarrow]

jade emporium

[fair hare]

Or in a Col.

[fair hare]

Wonder if I have that? 🤣

[arctic yarrow]

emporium adds a new page in deathnote to track miniboss killsm and having skulljoepickles makes it count for more when u kill the miniboss

[upbeat current]

Hi, from what I've seen the tome is supposed to have a few more bonuses than I have, I only have 3 (DMG, Skill Eff and Drop Rate) how am I supposed to unlock the others?

[arctic yarrow]

alchemy

[fair hare]

Hmm. I have the page, but I didn't see it in the Jade store thingy. Though I'm low on sleep so probably just reading past it.

[dusk plover]

where is the gemshop tierlist

[fair hare]

Yep, read right by it. And I've actually started collecting those pickles, when I remember to. Thanks!

Hey, Fazer - do you know of anything that would keep the Salt Lick liquid boost from registering? (Or am I just misreading that boost?)

[stable onyx]

Would two different characters with the same class have their talents stack? Like would two DK '1000 Hours Played"? Also if a passive talent has points in the current inactive spec, does it still do anything? Or does it always require points in the active spec to ever have an effect?

[fair hare]

Highest is used.

[arctic yarrow]

if u dont want the boost, just dont upgrade it. if upgraded. nothing can be done

[fair hare]

No I mean...I desparately wanted to the boost, added more than 20 points, and my liquid cap did not change.

[arctic yarrow]

[fair hare]

To be clear, I mean that the highest boost would be used. I should get off Discord, lol, too tired.

[arctic yarrow]

whats ur cap rn?

and did u check prior its very tiny boost if ur original cap is tiny too

[fair hare]

248. It was 249 a while ago. It's been 248 since 5 AM.

Well, it says it's supposed to add 20% if it was JUST those 20 levels. The absolute base is 80. So minimum added would be 16?

I did stamp. I did alchemy. Nothing changed it. lol.

[arctic yarrow]

how about ur lab?

[fair hare]

I pulled that off for CC.

[arctic yarrow]

is ur tent 400

[prime thistle]

hi guys re cogs are you whales still prioritising player xp bonus > build

[fair hare]

I should have left it on, I wouldn't be having this problem. lol.

[fair hare]

That's what I was told everyone should do? Even FTP people?

[fair hare]

N, it's over 200 by some, not sure how much, but less than 300.

[arctic yarrow]

dk still give the biggest build rate i think. so more xp more dk lvl

[arctic yarrow]

hmm... u are doing cc at tremor wurms right

[fair hare]

No, at oranges. That's where I usually do it, can get 3 in an hour (or something...takes a little less than an hour for three, usually.)

Ran it for about six hours today, maybe more, with every test. lol.

This is alllllll my own fault. I don't get heavy water when I should. I was upgrading a bunch of skulls. I need one more heavy water. Self inflicted wound.

[arctic yarrow]

tremor wurms is the best map for cc from what i remember. since back then in tome there was a stat for fastest to get 200 kills

[fair hare]

I'll try it. (People told me oranges when I started doing it.)

Thanks!

[arctic yarrow]

also

[fair hare]

(lol, though at this point, I should probably just wait until the store flips. Sheesh.)

[arctic yarrow]

how many upgrade in liquidvestment do u have

[fair hare]

It's maxed

[arctic yarrow]

the equinox upgrade

99%?

[fair hare]

I can't go any higher right now, anyway.

[arctic yarrow]

yeahhhhhh. u still missing some

[dreamy solar]

Probably the weekly boss one

[arctic yarrow]

not a bad point to do cc but better to try to get more liquidvestment lvls

especially if ur liquid/hr is in the single digit

[fair hare]

How? (And I'm 12, but might as well be single digit, lol.)

[arctic yarrow]

keep doing any avail equinox dreams

if none of ur current one gives liquidvestment lvl

[fair hare]

Ahh, so I will have those sometime in 2027 if I am lucky. 🤣

[arctic yarrow]

thats the only way

[fair hare]

Oh, actually there is one on onther...

It's a cog one, and I've been saving up Ulti Doubles to do it. So actually not too far away.

[arctic yarrow]

eh not really. i finish most of my equinox dream before december last year

and i came back in may/june

[fair hare]

I have another 30 or so of those cogs in inventory, so not too far away.

[arctic yarrow]

my current equinox dream left is the killroy 2k kills. and 100 kills on all killroy mobs

[arctic yarrow]

wont take long then

[red relic]

Equinox goes from "Wow these are so hard" to "the only one i still have is kill every mob for killroy" quite suddenly

[fair hare]

lol, some of my saved cogs are 0% cogs, but I'll just take a screen shot of my current ones before I add the other 40. 🤣

[light topaz]

~~Is the C-4 constellation bugged?
-I had 3 characters afk uninterrupted for over 16 hours, not a single one got counted
-I went back with a character and wasted a 24 hour candy for it to also not count
-I did a search on this discord and saw other people had the same issue over a year ago, but did not find an answer or solution. Just some people saying its not bugged

What am I doing wrong?~~

Edit, solved! UNEQUIP THE UNENDING ENERGY PRAYER
Adding tags for searchability (c4, c-4, star signs, sign, stars, 16 hours afk, bloques)

Thank you @fair hare and @main light for trying to help, I feel stupid af.

[fair hare]

Did you AFK at the place where the stars that you click are?

(You need to do the AFK on the map with the constellation, if you didn't.)

[light topaz]

With the bloques, yes

[fair hare]

And it was straight through for sure on one, because you used a 24 hour candy. Hmm. (They apparently got bugged several years ago, but the following patch fixed them.)

[light topaz]

I did not log back in to any of the 3 characters until it passed 16 hours afk, and yeah I used a 24 hour candy after as well

[fair hare]

I just checked and I have that on 5 characters currently.

[light topaz]

Yeah im not sure how some people are getting it while others arent.

[fair hare]

I'm going to search for other people saying it's bugged, sec.

I'm on Steam, btw.

[fair hare]

I've only found a couple of people who said they weren't getting it, and don't know if they followed up. I wonder if you need to touch the constellation with the character first? I wouldn't think so, pretty sure I didn't do that with 5 characters, lol, just kinda happened.

I've had a few weird things happen if I leave the game on the cloud save screen, but you sort of did your due diligence with that 24 hour candy.

[fair hare]

Are you on Steam, Android, IOS...?

[light topaz]

I went afk on steam, redeemed on android after 16 hours, when I got home I used the candy on steam

[heavy spear]

oh thank you so much

[fair hare]

The only thing I use my Android account for is for the rare times I buy a package. It does make me wonder if there's a connection, but there are LOTS of people who switch between android and steam, and as long as you're synched between those two, I would think it woul work fine.

So since I'm out of ideas, so the question doesn't get lost, anyone else have any idea why @light topaz AFKs for the C4 Bloque constellation aren't registering? (All the info is above, but he even tried a 24 hour candy.)

[light topaz]

Ty for assisting btw, I appreciate it

[fair hare]

Only wish it had helped. :/

(Lol, usually a question like this is pretty easy, do it without breaks on the constellation map, but you sort of covered your bases there.)

[light topaz]

I tried to do my due diligence

[radiant bison]

I won the 2nd boss fight now I just gotta wait for mana regen to summon enough lads

[main light]

Only advice I can give is to retest in this exact order.
Leave the map> close your game through cloud save and X> relaunch game> take the toon into the map > click on the star sign> cloud save and quit again.

You can use another candy or just wait but I would recommend at least waiting 18hrs to be safe

[fair hare]

@light topaz See above

[tame patrol]

Is the Equinox thing broken now that there's 7 worlds? I've cleared all 'reach 50 levels on 6' dream but cannot unlock the next lock?

[main light]

Screenshot if you can

[fair hare]

Did you do the first 6 at 50, or is one of the 6 the W6 one? (I thought it had to be the first 6, but that could be entirely wrong.)

[hollow cave]

Good ol justice and horrific RNG (I start with 59 coins and 10 pop for clarity)

[radiant bison]

If I had even 1% less dmg this wouldnt have been possible

[tame patrol]

all six, I've trying to push world 6 but w7 was release shortly after reaching leeks though (can't add the screensshots, edge is so broken)

[light topaz]

I did all of this, then went to town, grabbed another 24 hour, went back to to bloques, cloud saved, relaunched, clicked the star, used the candy, cloud saved and still nothing. 🙁

[fair hare]

I'm pretty sure it needs to be the first 6 (in doing some searches), so the two in W1, then 2, 3, 4, and 5. So sounds like you did it right, if you did those particular 6.

[fair hare]

But I think W6 doesn't count.

[main light]

A key part of the order I posted was clicking the star sign before candy

[subtle jacinth]

Coupla newbie questions..... when do you know it's ok to get rid of stuff? Storage is getting full, and I've got various newbie gear I'm not using, but I got bit by selling boxing gloves earlier, and then had to figure out how to make more. Do people just dump items at the vendor for 1cp, or is there another way to get rid of stuff?

[light topaz]

I did that.

[fair hare]

HOld down the shift key and click them, then leave the map so you don't pick them up again. :)

[subtle jacinth]

2nd question, just made a wizard, he has a talent to get a benefit based on # of stamps. It says he has no stamps, but I've got like 20 of them already in use

[subtle jacinth]

That's HOW to get rid of stuff. My question is more WHEN. When do you know it's ok to get rid of stuff?

[main light]

You don't need 90% of equipment

[fair hare]

Part of what you asked was this "Do people just dump items at the vendor for 1cp, or is there another way to get rid of stuff?"

So yes, there's another way to get rid of stuff. Sheesh. lol.

[main light]

Everything else will have a use or be needed for stacks

[subtle jacinth]

Implied was a way that nets you more than a measly copper, but fair enough

[fair hare]

I don't sell stuff just because it's absolutely not worth the time.

Not past my first 2-3 days in the game.

[main light]

The only point of selling is if you don't want to drop items for lag reasons which is mostly not a thing anymore.

[subtle jacinth]

got it, thanks

[swift marten]

after reaching round 200 in pet arena, is there any point on going any higher?

[fair hare]

Here's a list of the FTP storage chests in the game in stores/quests/drops. A bunch are late game - they're in order, I think, earliest to latest - but plenty of them are early. https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Storage#Storage_Chests

[indigo stratus]

You cant add ss bc you dont have the discord rank on here to post em yet.

[radiant bison]

drop rate!

[fair hare]

Another goal for me for 2027! (lol, jk. Kai was helping me last night, and had some ideas to straighten out my account. 🤣 )

[radiant bison]

AC class carried hard for this

just HAVING the class

[fair hare]

Eh, the MasterClass stuff will take a bit. I do HAVE them, though. So maybe that will help me, too. :)

[radiant bison]

oh then you have the bottom left upgrade right!

once ya get past 100 total summoning upgrade lvls w/ that

your golden

[fair hare]

I did max all of those (to their current levels, no books), because I don't have any points on actual AC stuff, so plenty to go around. lol.

[radiant bison]

all things considered 200 odd chests isnt bad odds

fury relic

[fair hare]

Yayyy! I should check to see if I got my upgrade yet! (Doubtful, but...hey. lol.) (Nope. :P)

[radiant bison]

when im more active

I check bi-hourly

oh btw my damage literally doubled

from that summoning excursion due to beating the green boss!

[fair hare]

I've been doing somewhat better about it. I at least check in if a Doot/Div bonus kicks in. (And I think I just not another sailing AFK bonus, that works kinda like the gaming bonus, the way DKs can get both gaming and gods bonuses) So it's moving a little faster, anyway.

[radiant bison]

You HAVE DOOT?

how tf are u this lacking then

hampter proc!

[fair hare]

My problems are of my own making. I concentrate on the parts I find the most fun. Makes me a bit...lopsided. It's an issue. lol.

[radiant bison]

I do this but I still check up on the stuff I dislike sometimes

23/day of this was my reward for example of actually touching div + a stamp soon to be mine!

[fair hare]

My damage is good, though. lol. I have done 1 day of summoning, but I have some upgrades, and am going to change that.

[radiant bison]

this was ~120 pre kruk

[fair hare]

Nice!

[radiant bison]

not spending resources on it bc yknow atoms are nice and id like to START atom stuff

[arctic yarrow]

[fair hare]

Yeah, I slowed down on atoms bc I'm still trying to get some levels on my collider before I start doing upgrades. Plus, doing a lot of crafting and such, so printing some odd resources.

[radiant bison]

I get it

but early af atom collider the amount of atoms reduction is neglible anyways

[fair hare]

I got everything unlocked, anyway.

[radiant bison]

already got this to 8.4

[fair hare]

And...wow.

[radiant bison]

Yea that was my goal

yea kruk is probably carried ur stats post w7 update

[fair hare]

I didn't do that. lol.

[radiant bison]

Doot -> kruk

I literally have a 2nd ES just for this bonus

[hollow cave]

I hope I can manage to get a proc on the kruk stamp before kruk week begins again

[fair hare]

I lucked out on my 22 Legacy pull (and I think it counts the free high-end candy pulls in those), so just very, very lucky.

[hollow cave]

still only at lvl 4 on the stamp because it's too expensive to upgrade further

[radiant bison]

p2p player?

[fair hare]

Is that a W7 thing?

[radiant bison]

(aka bought packs at all besides the autoloot one)

[hollow cave]

yea, W7 shop has a stamp that increases kruk levels per day by 1 per level

[radiant bison]

🤤

[hollow cave]

the cost scales astronomically though

[fair hare]

Yep. I've spent...about 48 cents per day since I started. lol.

[radiant bison]

0.00 cents/year myself

[true hamlet]

same although I feel like that stamp should just be removed

[hollow cave]

yea

either NSLB should be reworked so it's not obscene RNG for things like that, or the stamp should be changed

I think I'd prefer if there was some fashion of NSLB pity or control of some fashion though

[radiant bison]

nslb should be reworked to target lowest(tiers)

I say tiers

yknow how like at certain breakpoints for dif stamps

the mat req part

[indigo stratus]

Doesnt scale that bad

[hollow cave]

for sake of it

[radiant bison]

GEEZE

[fair hare]

Ouch.

[radiant bison]

I dont even have nslb

I think I get some from endless summoning as even a f2p though

[hollow cave]

yea I have 20 per day as F2P myself

[radiant bison]

nic

[hollow cave]

just hasn't hit that thing once unfortunately

[radiant bison]

its +1 level per mats

is nuts

[true hamlet]

didn't even realise

goes up pretty fast now

[muted citrus]

any advice for faster progression in w3? max dmg is 1.8m and im 5 points away from boss

[fair hare]

I think that's a pretty broad question, if you see what I mean. What do you feel like you're having problems with?

[mossy anvil]

holy

just gotta pray for nslb

[muted citrus]

portal opening and defense atm

[somber panther]

Can anyone help me with the ok now it’s peak gaming quest ? Need players with names that start with “P” to say 1 star game sucks… I’m in lava 3 world 2 shop map

[fair hare]

Are you working on construction at all? There's a building called DeathNote. It adds a multikill boost for each world that you kill monsters on, so it increases your KPH for opening portals.

So as you kill more mobs in W3 for example, the boost goes up so you can clear the portals faster.

I personally suck at defense as a stat, lol, but I use the best food and hit point potion that I can, and then also put some on the star talent Hemoglobin, which helps me not die as much.

(And don't forget your Upgrade Vault.)

This is where you can find DeathNote:

I guess the last thing I can think of is work on accuracy, maybe.

!accuracy

[muted citrus]

constructions pretty overwhelming but I'll work on that! ty

should lowkey search up a construction guide video if thisll help

ty!

[fair hare]

Totally it especially with all of the cogs and stuff. It's slow at first but it'll gradually get faster. Lots of really useful buildings there, too!

[vital ether]

are there more of these commands anywhere?

[fair hare]

#bot-commands then type !help for a menu. There are tons of them. :)

[vital ether]

Thanks!

[fair hare]

yvw :)

[swift marten]

is there any point in going 200+ in arena?

[red relic]

nah once you get to 200 anything further is just for IT leaderboards

[vast elk]

Does anyone know if the Hole divinity god link from the IdleOn Magik is change'able after selecting a god? Also, which gods should you take to do the link with?

[spring owl]

is there any additional bonus for bringing all the pet breedability multi to tier 7?

[fair hare]

I have Doot, so I don't do this, but I searched for hole god link here in Discord and lots of previous discussion came up, some of which do say you can change it. (My personal favorite god is the elephant, but I saw some people doing the goat/bear, so that you don't have to be in the lab to get those bonuses, but if you are, you get both lab experience and divinity points at the same time)

[swift marten]

thx

[red relic]

windwalker crit chance in tempest form from talent 8. 7 on all isn't too bad to get to once you have all the boosts in place and gives you a solid amount of extra crit chance

[spring owl]

thx for the info

[red relic]

you wanna put gods there that you generally want all your characters to be linked to. Elephant is a guaranteed solid lock imo but arctis, harriep or goat are what i'd suggest for the 2nd slot depending on what your main links are and what activites you are doing

[spring owl]

is this annihilation bugged? im pretty sure im killing more than 200 g mush in under 60 seconds but its not counting ofr me

[gritty elm]

How do i get way more frigid souls? I only get 200 per 90% charge

[fair hare]

Upgrade your skulls as high as they can use, everyone should have one, and get further in your TD for them.

[gritty elm]

Like the skull tool?

[fair hare]

Yeah. I'd go as high as they can go. They get points faster and if your using the MFA (or even manually collecting) you can click it a bunch more times.

[gritty elm]

Whats mfa

[fair hare]

It's one of the automation arm upgrades. Don't know how far along you are in construction. If you don't have the MFA, everyone can just collect at the little towers. :)

[gritty elm]

Oh yea i have that

[fair hare]

The skulls that I am giving everyone in the morning (lol) hold 1750 charge, and I'll go to the next one up as soon as I can. But how high in Worship your guys are determines which skulls they can use.

(Just like any tool.)

[gritty elm]

Im world 6 lol i just NEVER paid attention to worshipping EVER

[fair hare]

That must have made some things difficult. :)

[gritty elm]

Yea lol

[fair hare]

But definitely make sure that everyone has a skull, and keep updating as they can use better ones.

[gritty elm]

Alr

Thanks

[red relic]

You can probably push your waves a lot higher if you in w6. For frigid soul td you'll want to have voidinator most likely but there are setups in the !guide for different tiers of tower levels.

[fair hare]

And work on your TDs. lol. (Pfft, I should talk...)

[fair hare]

I love voidinator.

[gritty elm]

This is my worshipping rn

[fair hare]

I'm somewhat speechless. lol.

[woeful karma]

[red relic]

Zuiq

[woeful karma]

https://tenor.com/view/trophy-frustrated-goal-mr-turner-fairly-odd-parents-gif-8888418

[woeful karma]

ello yes i am zuiq :D

[fair hare]

Not changing name to Zulq?

[woeful karma]

unfortunately my currently name is the most changed it will ever be for a while

speaking of which thanks for hte reminder

[fair hare]

:D

[red relic]

Why it not changing for a while?

[woeful karma]

because its been Zuiq for the past 4 or 5 years?

shorting zuiq in a server to add festive stuff is the most ive ever changed it in a long while lmao

[fair hare]

Ahh. I changed mine once, and changed the account rather than the server name, and they wouldn't change it back for a week or something. But then they took away the old names :( So now it's always just a server name.

[red relic]

Oh i was thinking the (ChrisFesHolytastic) part or w/e it said was the part you weren't gonna be changing for a while. Not the actual part of your name

[woeful karma]

no changing Zuǐqiáng wángzhě to Zuǐq (words) for a server is the msot ive changed my name as of late

as you can see if youve followed my journey
i really try my best to cram the ( ) after Zuǐqiáng wángzhě to the best of kmy ability without touching Zuǐqiáng wángzhě itself

[red relic]

I understand. I usually only change my name for GW2 related servers cuz it's easier to just have my discord name be my account name since i like to switch characters a lot.

And all of my characters there aside from my first have meme names

[woeful karma]

fair enough

funnily enough Zuǐqiáng wángzhě username is only my name on disc

on all other platforms i have different names

[fair hare]

lol

[woeful karma]

most of which being my True Username

[fair hare]

I think I'm Kaidi everywhere. Used to be Cady, but after a couple of years it was always taken.

[woeful karma]

fair

they are quite similar at least

[fair hare]

Yeah, Cady was my favorite dog. 🤣

[woeful karma]

better then gameing instead of gaming :D

[fair hare]

lol

[woeful karma]

dogs are too good for this planet:pray

[fair hare]

All of my characters in this game are named after dead pets, lol. I really had to stretch it for the P pet (for the quest that people need P for) because the only animal even from my childhood that I could think of with a P was "Polkadot", a cat when I was 5. lmao. So I stole my husband's dog's name from when he was a kid, and he's Pete.

I have something like 2 cats 7 dogs and a cockatiel in character names.

[woeful karma]

damn lol

well i mean your husbands dog is still beloved byproxy in a way even if you never met him

[fair hare]

There ya go!

Haha, I did skip some beloved pets that had awkward names. :D

[woeful karma]

not every name is a winner but im sure the animals themselves were lovely

[fair hare]

They were, great bunch. We always had multiple, and now I'm down to this obnoxious little mini aussie. lol.

[gritty elm]

Waves are too hard

[woeful karma]

the neglect is unreal

[fair hare]

Takes practice, and you need to level your towers up. There are some guides out there. :)

[woeful karma]

i assume its either towerl evels or everthing else

but yeah if you take a few glances at some of the guides and tips it should help a bit

i know not everyone is Zuiq

[fair hare]

Eh, I even put some levels on when I started and comPLETEly botched it the first several times. lol.

[gritty elm]

I didnt know u could upgrade them😭

[woeful karma]

you can upgrade every building

and level caps can even be rasied

[fair hare]

THat should make it a little easier. :D

[gritty elm]

Lol

[woeful karma]

for example

[fair hare]

Show off! lol.

[woeful karma]

:p

[fair hare]

I'm nowhere close to that. And you need an atom collider and a voidinator. 😉

[woeful karma]

in my defense i only have my stable foundations to my name

[fair hare]

Very true. lol.

[woeful karma]

and that just leads to a bigger show off lmao

probs one of the few idleon players to have this issue

[fair hare]

Your construction is probably off the charts by now, too, so you'll build it in no time

[red relic]

I was wondering what was gating the voidinator. Suggma ashes

[woeful karma]

and prug stalkers

[red relic]

Soon

[woeful karma]

indeed

ill get both like hour 1

[fair hare]

I could swear I built collider in 4 but couldn't level it. Haha, I think my jump to 5 and 6 in 2 days was just traumatizing, fried my brain.

[woeful karma]

and then ill zoom through the first half of atoms

[woeful karma]

i prebuilt it W3 but didnt actually build it until i reached W5

[gritty elm]

Whats the best tower for frigid soul waves

[woeful karma]

boulder rollers until you unlock a decent leveld posionic

[gritty elm]

Alr

[fair hare]

You're not going to get too far for a little bit, most likely.

I love boulder rollers. My first three TDs I had more of them than anything else. Not a lasting strategy, alas.

[woeful karma]

yeah true but i am trying to give useful info for now and later

[woeful karma]

i think i
i dont actually remember how my first TD went

good thing i cna go check!

[fair hare]

omg mine was so, so bad. lol.

[woeful karma]

god
its hard to belive W3 unlock was exactly 1 year ago almost on the fuckin dot

[fair hare]

:D

Happy W3-birthday!

[red relic]

🎉

[woeful karma]

lol ty
ive moved to bigger and grander stages sicne

god my construction used ot be so shit

god how it has changed

unrealted something doesnt feel right kek

[jagged bramble]

Does killer brightside note work while offline?

[woeful karma]

as long as the node is active it is active for active andafk

[woeful karma]

all with lv1 puse mage kek

sadly didnt get past that until i leveled my tower from lv 1 lol (and unlocked FM and BR)

damn 28 is wild tho

(or close to at least)

[fair hare]

Have a picture of your Cog board?

[woeful karma]

5 players on 3 players in noob cogs

i had not even made acog at that time of snapshoting lmao

[fair hare]

:D

[woeful karma]

now i have a big semi beefy board

[fair hare]

Haha, I ran that "Board Judger" spreadsheet, and mine truly sucks.

[woeful karma]

mine is no longer optimal i thin k cog clicked at or pre 1k levels

now im 1056

lowest cog ecp % is 105
highest is 180%

[final fable]

do card odds in the afk info never go above 1 in 1 hr?

[woeful karma]

visually no in reality yeah

i get multiple cards/h from a 1h time candy

[final fable]

is there any way to see an accurate number without just using a candy?

relatively accurate*

[woeful karma]

afaik no :D

[final fable]

rip, ok ty

[woeful karma]

[fair hare]

I just run it for a set amount of time, count them, and use that as a baseline.

[woeful karma]

yeah 1h timecandy for afk guestimation for future afk sessions

[final fable]

do you get more cards while active?

[fair hare]

Mine was one of my unclassed beginners on his furthest W6 map. :D

[woeful karma]

and then a 30-60m timer for ES

[fair hare]

I do. Maybe depends?

[woeful karma]

yeah

very much yeah
extremely much yeah

ES is Thee active card farmer

due to its Wormhole talent

same sorta with DK and orb which also multiplies DR but doesnt help as much with base mob drops as ES does

[final fable]

for skill cards is active vs afk the same (and by active I just mean having the game running not spamming the button)

[woeful karma]

yeah active afk vs afk afk

you dont really want ot do active skilling ngl

[final fable]

yea thats what I figured

[woeful karma]

print your resources and then jsut cnady the cards once you get good rate of cards per candy

example

ofc this isnt with a skilling build or anything even remotly skilling build
but you get hte idea

[final fable]

ive just been doing it for levels for the rift bonus and now that I have the cards passive im going back through and getting them up

[woeful karma]

fair enough

[final fable]

so i should just candy them rather than leaving someone chopping?

[woeful karma]

100 on all players is quite a challenge for most mid and early late game players

[woeful karma]

i mean you could do that ig if you dont ahve anything betterfor that player to do

(i am a rare exception)

[fair hare]

Honestly, I broke down and used divinity pearls/ballons on everyone who wasn't there to 50, for skill mastery.

[woeful karma]

[tight coyote]

Left it for 6 hours cuz I realized I hadn't done the "Beat Nightmare troll from 1st to 10th player" lol

[final fable]

idrk where I am, I hadnt really gotten any advice on how to play until mid world 5 so I was just winging it until then and now im trying to catch up on what I should have been doing lmao

[woeful karma]

pelae dont waste baloons
use them on cooking please

[fair hare]

Mentioned ballons because not everyone has Divinity Pearls in W3/W4 chat, and someone b!tched at me about that.

But my cooks are already 50-51 with one 57, and that is good enough for now. lol.

[fair hare]

I did get advice I just tended to play the parts of the game I thought were fun, and ignored towers. Alchemy I worked hard on vials (but not leveling them) and did a few bubbles. On and on. Even stamps, collected but didn't level. I'm still trying to clean it up.

[woeful karma]

telll them

i am W4 and look at how many i have

[fair hare]

I don't have anywhere to use them any more. :(

[woeful karma]

unsure if dib pearls work on breeding but that is no.1 W1-4 skill to pearl
and then cookign
But imo you balloon cooking

[woeful karma]

same

[mossy anvil]

who did that

[fair hare]

Anyway, from what I've seen there are a lot of us here playing catchup :)

[woeful karma]

lowest level is 63

not including splunking

[fair hare]

I don't even remember now. It didn't tick me off or anything, so...lol.

[mossy anvil]

i was just curious

[mossy anvil]

unneglect w7

[woeful karma]

let us know and they will no longer have a discord account soon
(/j)

[fair hare]

Hahaha!

[woeful karma]

im trying im trying!
the class exp leveling grind is slow when in tempest mode

[fair hare]

Well, I did understand their point. I got some of those I think in the Summer event, so...

[woeful karma]

another 86 talent poitns to go

[fair hare]

Yep, putting me to shame. lol.

[woeful karma]

i am but a simple weak lowly normal W4er

[indigo stratus]

Cooking is good place to use balloons

[fair hare]

Oh, definitely. I meant Divinity pearls.

[woeful karma]

imo best palce ot use

you can force level everything else W1-5 afaik

you cant force level cooking without baloons

[indigo stratus]

Oh, divinity pearls are worthless at this point

[mossy anvil]

FINALLY

[fair hare]

I just made sure the laggers were pushed to 50 for Rift/Skill Mastery and boom done.

[mossy anvil]

[fair hare]

Grats!

[woeful karma]

uge!

[woeful karma]

trueee
like tf am i supoed to do wit hthem?
save them until W5???

unrelated what can i pearl in W5 again?

[mossy anvil]

im not pushing further coz daily corals are maxed already

[mossy anvil]

deez nuts ha gottem

[fair hare]

I so wish. lol.

[woeful karma]

[robust marsh]

Interesting question none

[woeful karma]

[woeful karma]

well their not holy black or divine but i suppose it wouldnt hurt to have two more to my collection

[robust marsh]

Are you still lost

[woeful karma]

ive also learned that there has been a cover up (suposedly) of my dissaperence in the Idleon Zoo

[mossy anvil]

nice jump from 21 mil lol

[indigo stratus]

I doubled mine to 890M, then to 1.7B. Think thats all Im gettin for now

[robust marsh]

Interesting

[robust marsh]

Dw detective squid will find ya

[woeful karma]

im more interesting where a fake body double came from and who did it and how many people are involved

[fair hare]

1180, I think 🎉

[robust marsh]

I stuck to that doubles leg whole night thinking it was you

I need to go in zoo keepers secret room to see if you are there

[woeful karma]

a true shame indeed

[woeful karma]

no clue where that is but i doubt i am there

[mossy anvil]

im atoming gfood on rams

[robust marsh]

Where do you think you are

[mossy anvil]

what a time to be alive

[fair hare]

Oo, 2322. lol. At least I don't have to use screenshots to share mine.

[mossy anvil]

ngl, i dont know what those numbers mean and im curious

i was pretending i understand

[fair hare]

THank god, lol. I had insomnia last night and have been up since 3, and I just figured I wasn't making sense.

I think it must be time for bed if even I don't know if I'm making sense. G'night guys!

[woeful karma]

in an existential crisis mayhapsibly

[mossy anvil]

gn

[woeful karma]

sleep well

[robust marsh]

Smh to hard english pls simpler words

[woeful karma]

still sadly exist

as for where i am it will soon be a bed

[robust marsh]

There are no beds in the zoo

I have a bad feeling that you are wandering somewhere other than zoo

[woeful karma]

i wander across all planes and realms of existence
Perhaps that is why you cannot always find me
sometimes i am in The Zoo
sometimes i am elsewhere
sometimes i may even be nowhere

[robust marsh]

Let me call my interdimentional frnds

https://tenor.com/view/hp-lovecraft-lovecraft-cthulhu-gif-18128404

Help me find him cthulu frnds

[woeful karma]

and with that i shall be heading out forthe evening
night chat
best of luck with the grind yall 🦾

[mossy anvil]

gn

[quick pilot]

What mining efficiency should i have in w3

Currently on 7k

[pliant echo]

I'm gonna turn the fat fuck seal into sashimi

[radiant bison]

just noticed Id have multikill on all w6 mobs I unlocked so far(just barely but still) if I got the golem lmao

90b damage is my highest dmg now

killroy prime n stuff like eclipse skulls could get me closer too ofc

[quick oasis]

Is there a channel I can’t see for King Doot killing? I’m trying to get the trimmed rune plate legs

[radiant bison]

best class to get skull points on?

[radiant bison]

#party-finder-👪

[quick oasis]

Thank you I didn’t have that channel

[radiant bison]

for rift

[thorny geode]

Can someone explain what the sacred methods bundle does ?

[sleek pollen]

basically and exactly that, No Bubble Left Behind, for bubbles ofc, then No Stamp Left Behind & No Meal Left Behind for stamps and meals respectively

-# well the second part doesn't apply to stamps and meals (unless your meals are max level), stamps is random and meals is lowest from bottom to top of the list

[thorny geode]

And that 10x daily, right ?

And is it good ? 👀

[sleek pollen]

yeah it's a very good pack, somewhere in the top

[sleek pollen]

maybe not +1 10 times, but it's maybe like 2x +3 and 2x +2? idk not sure

[sleek pollen]

yeah yeah sacred methods I know

well I don't exactly remember but it's definitely not x10 +1, maybe something like x3 +3 and +1, or what I said before.
anyway a good one tbh

[thorny geode]

Thank you !

[tawdry lodge]

Does anyone knows which is the bundle after ram hat?

[sleek pollen]

idk

[shy tiger]

if i open my construction will my progress continue? or will the progress be lost?

[arctic yarrow]

so much wasted multipliers gone to the cheapest meat

[sleek pollen]

exiting should save your progress I reckon?

[sleek pollen]

I don't even know how that works, had a few days afk and clicked again 🤷‍♂️

[arctic yarrow]

i had some of the bubba speed up thing. and i tested it. every 20+ hours claim give the best meat, even did a 100 hour claim and same meat

its like 0.1 increase to the multi i think every 20+ hours

and since smoke meat price doesnt reset. he lost so many multi cus of claiming too soon and getting low multi

[radiant bison]

I have a few due to my mouse deciding to double click

the other 3 meats are due to mistakes w/ timing

[arctic yarrow]

mine rn. i click exactly at 20 hours twice and got those. so now i just do 24 hour claims lol

MF6 working on MF7 now.

[radiant bison]

Im on mf5

Defo gonna follow guides for mf6+

I got mf5 before guides for this really existed

Ok fr is there any class thats better for skulls

[arctic yarrow]

my daily bubba check rn is just claiming smoked meats and doing some dice rolls. which isnt bad when orion and poppy is also atp where it takes days to get more MF

[radiant bison]

1hr of this has gotten frustrating

[arctic yarrow]

ac

[radiant bison]

Oh ty

[arctic yarrow]

what were u doing it on?

[radiant bison]

pirate

[finite niche]

https://idleon-optimizer.vercel.app/orion

[finite niche]

After 16 hours it makes no more difference

[arctic yarrow]

i cant be fuck to check every 16 hours. ill just do 24h claims either way cus lava code still gave me the frayed meat at 20 hour claim

[radiant bison]

This things math is so off for cost reduction for orion

[finite niche]

Why

[radiant bison]

its off by MONTHS

for me atleast w/ my current upgrades

[arctic yarrow]

also about orion. im on megafeather 19.

[finite niche]

Works perfectly for me

[radiant bison]

found the problem

the javascript needed a reload feather generation was at "1"

but displayed as if I set it to 1114 correctly

fractal 17 soon

dope for bubba soon

[arctic yarrow]

anyways. back to peanut crafting.

[radiant bison]

Unless I misinputed somethin

[spring owl]

anybody can help on this? i cant click anything on this page

[radiant bison]

ok its 12days I misinputted something a tad

[radiant bison]

you cant click this?

[spring owl]

omg thx

[mint rivet]

Greetings everyone

👋🏿

[glossy jewel]

is 500k base dmg good for someone at bop boxes?

[mint rivet]

its enough for w4

[sleek pollen]

Hello beanster

[glossy jewel]

damn

only issue is i have low accuracy and defense

[finite niche]

json import works fine

[radiant bison]

I didnt know that was an option

regardless my optimal choice for bubba at this point is do nothing

[mint rivet]

struggling with accuracy in 2026 idleon is crazy

[radiant bison]

If hes in early w3 or early w4 thats the only possible stages at this point

[radiant bison]

Hows ur clickers?

[radiant bison]

Only points w/ real issue points of jumps in acc req left in the game

[mint rivet]

there are so many accuracy sources, i bet you are missing a decent part of them.

There is a guide showing the most important ones, though i don't have it rn

[radiant bison]

if u dont have enough acc by w6 ur alchemy is crying for help

alternatively ur div is lacking

[mint rivet]

YES!!!!!

endgame owl reached

[radiant bison]

(kruk will carry acc hard if ur resources arnt that good)

[mint rivet]

idk if i will get FF22 this year

[radiant bison]

drop rate!

[mint rivet]

indeed

no one legit can have more droprate from owl as far as i know

[radiant bison]

Im doing active afk rift stuff rn

pain

[mint rivet]

e51 💀

[steel agate]

how can u possibly be that far without spending SO much real $

actively pay attention to this every 12-26 hours since release yes im almos

[mint rivet]

there is no real $ pack that boosts feathers/s rate

[steel agate]

so how are u so far?

[mint rivet]

i did it consistently and efficiently since release

[steel agate]

what am i clearly doing wrong haha

[mint rivet]

i got all bonuses for improving it as soon as i could

[steel agate]

oh nm i read the wrong rest sorry

[finite niche]

Buy the great reset man!

[steel agate]

my bad i thought it was the middle one

[mint rivet]

oh my god

that's how you waste progress

[steel agate]

when i hit 41 ill get all those megas...sorry for bugging i see the error of my ways

[mint rivet]

no, get it now

[steel agate]

to close to the reset to do it now ❤️

[mint rivet]

you know it resets on mega right

[mint rivet]

only one that doesn't is this

[mint rivet]

in order to progress efficiently, buy bonuses of orion rn and then mega reset

[forest rain]

How does guilds works? What is king/leader etc

[opal needle]

🪦

[forest rain]

Is guild created by leader and he promote someone to king or what. -.-
Maybe there is some guild announcement to see what is going on. There is defo 4.7k GP points that aren't spent and idk

[finite niche]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Guilds#Guild_Ranks_&_Icons

[forest rain]

Yeah, but It doesn't answers any of my question. What is promotion buttons etc. Why I have some king icon and why i can demote leader. I confused. What does it even do.
I don't really want to deal with any of this xdd and idk what to press idk if only leader/king can spent gp and if so why the dude who made guild do not spent points himself.

[elder hare]

Probably hasn't opened the game in years

[pliant echo]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is there any point to having Kunai in sneaking once you've untied all your characters?

Like, once I have all 10 characters untied, can I just trash all kunai I get?

[turbid stag]

If you want to
-# Yes, you have no need for Kunai after untying all characters.

[pliant echo]

Okay cool, I wasn't sure if there was some other use for them later or not

[turbid stag]

the two upmost ranks can spend GP on upgrades iirc

[forest rain]

So he didn't play the game for some time and role of guild owner automatically went to someone with biggest GP? If I demote him would it mean someone else would get leader role and would be able to invite/pick bonuses/deal with things as well?

[sick bronze]

looking for people to kill doot on pizza 1 1/1 warrior 0/1 archer 0/1 mage

[arctic yarrow]

[elder hare]

when green

[arctic yarrow]

never. that took way too long

donezo for now

[elder hare]

That's ok I haven't made one since doing the quest for jman

[mint rivet]

damn, what ribbon do you have on meal?

also do you have emperor set?

[arctic yarrow]

t20. and yes i have emp set

[mint rivet]

ah, makes sense then. I have t16 and no emp set

[arctic yarrow]

whaled during the ribbon event lol. got like 7-8 gingerbread nametag

and like 4 of the hat

ez ribbons

[mint rivet]

yeah...1 gingie

[arctic yarrow]

i got both the singed tome for dr multi and extra 20 lvl for atoms. so yeah whaled hard

damn. u have the 5%

[mint rivet]

i didn't even unlock that forbidden alley

[mint rivet]

i had it from when these nametags first released, then score inflation started going crazy

last time i checked it was 41k for 5%

and when i got the 5% nametag it was like 39k

[arctic yarrow]

yeah i wasnt even close to that

[arctic yarrow]

my tome is 39809 btw

u have 100k more bubble lvls than me just from thst ss

[mint rivet]

no way, i neglect alchemy

[mint rivet]

oh ig kruk did some work, this was 10k lvls lower than last time i checked, and so were the other 2 bubbles aswell

[arctic yarrow]

yeah i missed some kruk bubbles cus i didnt upgrade the cluster thing

[mint rivet]

we twins

[mint rivet]

yeah about that

anyways, hopefully i reach the last map rn (i got some days of afk gains to claim) and get that nametag

its what i have been waiting on

[arctic yarrow]

i got 3 nametag run at best with all the bullets and card and premium sht i could get. i need to do more bravery

[mint rivet]

what's ur dmg on setup?

[arctic yarrow]

mobile so it was in the negative lol

[mint rivet]

you're on mobile only?

[arctic yarrow]

but my dummy has 3.1E32 dps score

yeah mobile only

idr if i did the dummy with full setup

[mint rivet]

damn

[arctic yarrow]

but definitely was on ac when i did those runs

[mint rivet]

a lot more than me

[mint rivet]

is ac best class to do it with

[arctic yarrow]

p2w robe and wings lol

[mint rivet]

even without those, u got more

[arctic yarrow]

its cus u need to kill 60 enemy in 1 minute or less

[radiant bison]

slwoly getting my rift up

[arctic yarrow]

im working on eclipse skull w7 mobs rn

[radiant bison]

I wont get 1b kills for a while but its something

[arctic yarrow]

so even more dmg soon

[mint rivet]

just wowed this finally

[arctic yarrow]

pufferblob should be eclipse later tonight

[mint rivet]

[arctic yarrow]

somehow litterfish card is so hard to get. even with that much kills i only have it 2 star

[mint rivet]

the card am really interested in is this one

either best or 2nd best card in the game

[arctic yarrow]

yeah u definitely further in gaming. i just got lucky snail lol

[mint rivet]

behind that LOCKED is a 7.99m purchase...

crazy good but crazy expensive too

[arctic yarrow]

yeah i need to work on monument bad afer i finish getting eclipse skulls

[mint rivet]

YES!

[arctic yarrow]

i still dont have 24k hours on justice. and wisdom doesnt even have 10k

[mint rivet]

huge spelunking gains, lvl gains, dr gains, dmg gains

+2 slab

[radiant bison]

atom collider get!

that ss is my goal for rift

I should be able to scrap by to that for a big dmg stat boon

[mint rivet]

huh

[radiant bison]

I dont have that much dmg %

[mint rivet]

do farming then

[radiant bison]

also refinery speed, and build speed is nice

[radiant bison]

thats just slow im working on it but its 1.5hrs/crop minimum rn

[knotty falcon]

It goes faster once you stack up some monument afk %, but 200k hours at least is essential

[arctic yarrow]

yeah i should have some decent afk monu % ill check on IT later

[knotty falcon]

ah you wrote justice, mb, I meant bravery

[indigo stratus]

Bravery is the only one 24k+ hours is worth