midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[radiant bison]

atleast get this to t2

[fair hare]

Ahh, most of mine are still the initial ones.

[radiant bison]

...

get this up

more odds = slightly faster upgrading

[opal needle]

i remember when my artifacts were like that

good times.....

[radiant bison]

I just noticed I didnt even push to cloud 5 yet

so um yea gonna speedrun a cloud real quick(ignore the 37hrs I literally cant upgrade those 3)

[fair hare]

The weird thing is, I don't even remember what most of them do. Right now I'm trying to clear 9, so could clear 10 because there is something on 10 that I want...but I don't remember what THAT is. lol.

[radiant bison]

welp im like 2 islands away from jade rock

[true hamlet]

Wow

[radiant bison]

only art im not pushing is this bc doubling it is meh

[fair hare]

Actually, I'm on 8, trying to get to 9. Now I gotta look it up. lol.

[radiant bison]

btw

ud prob have 20k div/hr w/ this for 10 chars

[fair hare]

This is what I want:

[radiant bison]

Same here but its not worth it to sorta skip out on the prev stuff either

I got 200 talents w/o that :P

(barely)

[fair hare]

I've got some a bit over 200 but not by much. lol. I basically ignored my library for six months.

[radiant bison]

welp in 1hr ill have a new island unlocked

[radiant bison]

I have a char at lvl 420

430*

[fair hare]

My highest is DK who is at...

[radiant bison]

adv level is 300

[radiant bison]

360+ for all but one char

[fair hare]

Only one that high, though.

[radiant bison]

thats all that matters for the bonus

is the highest lad

[fair hare]

400+ including my two unclassed beginners. But those are work to level.

They are at 408 and 409.

[radiant bison]

Yea they are I got my singular beginner to lvl 250 and gave up

[fair hare]

They kill like...4k or something on the W6 maps. lol.

[cerulean jasper]

I put 5000 ores in each slot...

[radiant bison]

Yea it be like that

[cerulean jasper]

they have a chance to fail???

[radiant bison]

no

[fair hare]

No, you got extras.

[radiant bison]

its like 8 or 16/bar

for plat

[cerulean jasper]

5000+5000+5000=1000+1000+1000?

[radiant bison]

its not 1:1

just closed the game lemme boot it up to show ya

[cerulean jasper]

so not a chance to fail but a need for more consumption....

[fair hare]

no

[radiant bison]

yea

[fair hare]

16 ores to make one platinum bar. Sometimes you'll make extras, depending on a few different factors.

[radiant bison]

^

this is agony

dreadlo

[fair hare]

So if you put 5000 ore in and weren't getting extras, you'd only get 312 bars.

[radiant bison]

so he got ~3.2x bars

[fair hare]

Eh, print it then run BM on mushrooms. lol.

[radiant bison]

I dont get that many ores from sampling dreadlo yet to do that

most of my lads dont wear gear anyways

I only slap some on for better prints

[fair hare]

I don't get that many but I have good output boosts.

[radiant bison]

I gtg now

[fair hare]

Thanks for your help this AM. :)

And tomorrow, I'll start DB and summoning, and try to figure out why my farming is so f'd up.

[cunning raven]

so i've been told to like rush to higher worlds an then slow down an catch up to an extent

at what world is reasonably to stop pushing for awhile an start sorting my account out properly?

like w5 or w6?

[pseudo flicker]

In w5 you’ll enter divinity jail for a while, so that’s a decent time to catch up a bit

[cunning raven]

no clue what that is but im guessing its pain

[pseudo flicker]

But world 6 is where you can really slow down for a longer period of time

[true hamlet]

W5 W6, up to you yeah

You likely won't hit a wall in w5, so most people stop at w6

[pseudo flicker]

World 5–>6 is much much much shorter than world 6–>7

[true hamlet]

Anyways, the w6 skills give you a hell lotta stats which can help you push everything up

[true hamlet]

No clue how it is now

[fair hare]

I'll say the great thing about world 6 is that my levels went up by leaps and bounds, even when they couldn't kill that many things. lol.

[pseudo flicker]

Also very true, plus the class exp from first zone is fantastic

[cunning raven]

i was thinking of stopping at w5 for abit as im not focusing on my other characters much rn

im just shoving them straight into the lab

an letting that cook

then start sorting them out some more

[true hamlet]

W6 skills give skill eff multi, dmg multi, droprate etc.

[pseudo flicker]

You’ll shove everyone into divinity instead for a while once you reach world 5

[fair hare]

In 5 you'll eventually get a god that lets you put them back in the lab, and get lab and divinity at the same time, which is kinda fun.

[cunning raven]

no clue how divinity works but im guessing doot is a cheat code for it?

is that why everyone wants doot?

[pseudo flicker]

Yup

[fair hare]

Very much so.

[cunning raven]

thankful i have that then

[fair hare]

I love my Doot. If it was removed from the game, I'd quit. lol.

[cunning raven]

probably be a few days before i even get to w5 tbh

[pseudo flicker]

Oh you have doot? Then you’ll only need to get all your characters to divinity level 2 for some time

[cunning raven]

yea i got doot while i was in w1 lmao

[fair hare]

Ooh, so if you have it, jump to 5, et 2 levels of divinity for everyone, then jump back to the lab?

[pseudo flicker]

Your progress will feel much better once you get that doot fully online

[cunning raven]

yea cos my skills are all over the place

my gear for my alts is clapped xD

they are just lab slaves rn literally more or less

[pseudo flicker]

For one thing, all your characters will be active in the lab at all times

[cunning raven]

what so i can do stuff on my characters without being stuck in the tube all my life?!

[pseudo flicker]

You’ll get 2x portal kills on all characters (another multiplier on top of the lab bonus)

[pseudo flicker]

Yup

[cunning raven]

i want that now lmfao

[pseudo flicker]

That’s why you would normally need to be in divinity jail to unlock that feature

[fair hare]

They don't have to physically be in the lab. You won't get experience, but all the lab boosts still work. If they ARE in the lab, you get lab and div both.

[cunning raven]

Idm putting them in lab while im sleeping

[pseudo flicker]

But since you have doot, all you need to do is afk around 10 hours on each character in divinity to reach level 2

[cunning raven]

but during day id like to have them being productive

yea i think im going to stop at w5 for awhile then

sort all my characters out so im not just a boosted bot

[fair hare]

Man, I wish I'd had my Doot when I hit lab. I would have RUN to W5. lol.

[pseudo flicker]

I mean it’s completely fine to not have full gear on everyone for now

[cunning raven]

feel like im legit just being carried by the fact i bought some bundles rn

[pseudo flicker]

You’ll need to make a set of troll armor for all your characters eventually anyways

And that’ll take a hot minute

[cunning raven]

mainly been trying to sort out my construction get that going

but its rather rough to get that an the 3d printer going

[pseudo flicker]

You’ll get there :)

[fair hare]

Doot should be helping with that too, right? Because of AFK time giving 3d printer time sometimes?

[cunning raven]

like ive not even touched statue or card farming yet

[pseudo flicker]

Once he actually gets to that point yes

[cunning raven]

stamps we wont talk about that lmao

but ive just read everyone says to push then play catchup

[pseudo flicker]

Don’t worry too much about that yet, your drop rate is probably very very low anyways

It’s very hard to farm statues efficiently at low drop rate

[cunning raven]

like 4.5x or something rn

[pseudo flicker]

Yeah you want at LEAST 20x if not 30x before you start statue farming

[cunning raven]

yea probably go to w5/6 then start sorting the stuff out i guess

[fair hare]

I started statue farming at 20, and when I hit 30, it felt like more than 50% more. It was weird. I'm up to a whopping 32.5 or something now.

[pseudo flicker]

Do you have voidwalker yet?

[cunning raven]

idk what that is

[pseudo flicker]

Do you have maestro yet?

[cunning raven]

i just unlocked some elite classes today

[pseudo flicker]

Oh nice

[cunning raven]

thats about the extent of what ik lol

[pseudo flicker]

Okay do you have journeyman?

[cunning raven]

nope

im at 6 chars atm and i can have upto 8 currently

[fair hare]

Probably take a short break and get journeyman?

[pseudo flicker]

Alright that should be a priority for you, your 7th character should be a beginner class, look up the secret questline on the wiki

[true hamlet]

Because crystal chance went up

[pseudo flicker]

Your 8th character should be a second divine knight to help with construction

[cunning raven]

https://www.reddit.com/r/idleon/comments/161z81u/character_creation_and_class_selection/ i was kinda following this

idk how like good or if its accurate

[pseudo flicker]

Very outdated

7th should be secret class, 8th should be a second squire—>DK

[fair hare]

It was 20 then 30 on the same side of that change, if that makes sense. Maybe it's because DK got stronger and so could kill faster/more?

[pseudo flicker]

9th and 10th are quite flexible, especially since you have doot

[burnt merlin]

me making my 2nd character secret

[pseudo flicker]

Psycho

[astral lava]

My Vman is the 4th

[pseudo flicker]

I mean it honestly doesn’t really matter, it’s not too hard to unlock the first 7-8 characters

As long as you have at least one of each in the first 8 you’re good to go

[fair hare]

I got Jman in June, I think. It took me until a week or two ago to get Maestro/Voidwalker because I suck so bad at the minigames.

[burnt merlin]

i just candied/balooned my skills

oh wait was there minigame stuff i didnt pay attention

[cunning raven]

think currently im at, 1 Beast master, 1 Divine Knight, 1 Squire, 1 Blood Berserker, 1 Shaman, 1 Wizard

[burnt merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/oversight-the-funny-guy-spins-no-thoughts-head-empty-animated-meme-gif-5351126744776931919

[cunning raven]

is my current lineup

[fair hare]

You have to get a bag of peanuts from gold-whateverhisnameis, and that required the catching game. I have vision issues which mess with my hand/eye coordination for stuff like that.

[true hamlet]

Yeah probably

[pseudo flicker]

If you already have 1 divine knight AND one squire, make sure you get a siege breaker (archer—>bowman—>siege)

[burnt merlin]

oh that one. i totally forgot because it was so easy

[pseudo flicker]

You need at least one of each elite class

[fair hare]

For some. lol.

[cunning raven]

Yea i read you wanted 2 squire / DK for construction

then i wanted a barbarian for fishing

[pseudo flicker]

Yeah that’s perfect

[burnt merlin]

just buy a bunch of minigame attempts in the gem shop and get a couple of points each time

[cunning raven]

so im guessing next i want what, the other archer class, to cover bases

[pseudo flicker]

Yes exactly

[cunning raven]

but then what just special stuff?

[pseudo flicker]

And then the secret class for your 8th

[fair hare]

I actually had a little kid help me. He got 7, I got 2. Went back a week later and the quest had reset back to 0. lol.

[cunning raven]

probably get my 2nd archer cooking tomorrow an throw him into the lab prison aswell

then set my DK to keep pushing to W5 an work on journeyman i guess

[pseudo flicker]

Good plan

[burnt merlin]

i guess i shouldnt feel bad about my coordination then, since i can get 30+ fairly easily

[cunning raven]

my alchemy is dreadful but i guess that gets better later on to catchup right

[pseudo flicker]

Especially because you have doot, rushing to world 5 will skyrocket your progress

[pseudo flicker]

As you get higher library max book levels, your shaman (bubonic conjuror) will get cranium cooking online to boost your alchemy progress

[fair hare]

That's great! lol. And I now own 19 tries a day (or something) that I'm mostly not using because I finally got those 90 hoops done. :D

[cunning raven]

yea i'll show you my pets 1sec , i have quite afew so i should be able to catcbup nicely?

[burnt merlin]

the mining minigame and fishing minigames are the bane of my existance though 😡

[fair hare]

Fishing I don't find too bad. I tried mining once. lol.

[burnt merlin]

theres something about the perspective in the mining minigame that makes me wiff all of my runs before i see the golden rock you need for the achievment

[cunning raven]

These are my pets currently

[pseudo flicker]

Oh wow yeah those will definitely help quite a bit

[burnt merlin]

rift slug would be a nice one to get

[pseudo flicker]

Are you doing your clickers (Orion/poppy/ bubba ish)

[cunning raven]

I focused on orion alot today

i got to the final feather

the rainbow ones

[fair hare]

I'll trade you rift slug for balloon fish! (Kidding, that wouldn't be a good trade for you. lol.)

[pseudo flicker]

Good, that Santa’s helper will help a lot with those bonuses to help push through world 4

[cunning raven]

other ones not so much

lol i would if i could i traded most of my shallow waters stuff to my friend

think the main thing i have to trade atm is a Whale exlcusive pet

everything else is untradeable pretty much

[fair hare]

It was a joke. Balloon fish are in demand, and rift slugs aren't that hard to get. :P I'm missing the top 4 in shallow waters, but have all of legacy and all of Fallen Iforgetwhat.

[cerulean jasper]

Is me giving riptide for doot good

[burnt merlin]

fallen spirits

[pseudo flicker]

Absolutely yes

[fair hare]

Yes

[fair hare]

And you keep riptide, too

[cunning raven]

I dont even want to say what i traded for this riptide im pretty sure i got an absolute steal

[clever thunder]

Is there any benefit getting pet arena more than 200 rounds?

[cerulean jasper]

I mean yeah but riptide has like hella value rn

[opal needle]

save it for joc or samurai

[fair hare]

Doot is best in game by me. Yeah, you CAN win him, but who knows how long that'd take, and he REALLY helps your game. :) But there are lots of things you could save Riptide for. I wouldn't trade him for Samurai though, I don't think.

[burnt merlin]

i dont really get the hype over samurai. sure its buffs and cant be pulled anymore, but it just doesnt seem like something i would die without

[cunning raven]

idk why riptide is good either lmao

thats because im a big ol noob though :x

[pseudo flicker]

Very good in world 7

[burnt merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[cunning raven]

i got mine for a whallamus and a rabbit o.o

[fair hare]

Nice!

[cerulean jasper]

Where do you find these people

[fair hare]

lol!

[pseudo flicker]

It’ll help quite a bit, especially if you can snag a 9 darter trophy from the darts minigame

[cunning raven]

i was just watching trade chat an saw they had it and asked what they wanted and i had it

figured it was a good deal cos i see everyone talking about it

[cerulean jasper]

I have legit been looking for doot for the past hour and only gotten trolls

[burnt merlin]

i traded my first riptide for a rift slug, whallamus, crystal custard, crystal capybara, and a shell slug

probably not stonks, but im happy enough. it saved me pulls

[cunning raven]

I mean gave my doot to my friend for free

in hiend sight i shouldve traded it for alot of stuff

but hey ho 😂

[burnt merlin]

i traded my second riptide for golem, and im happy with the x10 total damage even though people keep trashing on it 😭

[fair hare]

Riptide was very rare prior to the Christmas event. I think there may be more out there now?

[pseudo storm]

what should i be buying with my killroy skulls? arcade balls or refinery cycles?

[fair hare]

Arcade balls

[burnt merlin]

im no expert, but i use it on refinery cycles

[pseudo flicker]

Balls

[burnt merlin]

im impatient

[fair hare]

Permanent boosts

[pseudo storm]

i see, ty

[burnt merlin]

not for me. just frag

frab?

[pseudo storm]

this guide was saying spend it on salts and it had me confused for a minute

[fair hare]

I am farming fragments right now, lol. I would take them. :D

[forest rain]

Which map is good for universal focus-farm in W1?

[burnt merlin]

oh frag isnt some nothing item? is that obol fragments then? i thought it was like "haha you suck"

[cerulean jasper]

Dude I don’t know riptide for doot seems like a scam but I’m also dootless bro

[cunning raven]

anyway im off to sleep for the night, thanks for the talk peeps take care 🙂

[pseudo flicker]

Take care

[pseudo storm]

good night leon

[fair hare]

People here told me balls early on, but it took me a little while to come around. If I had odd amounts left, I get refinery cycles. My refinery is so much faster now, I'm really glad I went with the boosts.

[pseudo flicker]

What do you mean?

[forest rain]

Like take some map and place shrines there and rest of chars. xd
To get gold, obols

[pseudo flicker]

You shouldn’t do that

[burnt merlin]

w1 sucks fr

[pseudo storm]

glad to hear that lol, thanks for the tip. does this matter btw?

[fair hare]

I was told it's only visual. I wish it was otherwise. lol.

[forest rain]

Better solution without sitting 6 hours mini-tasking things?

[burnt merlin]

afaik, no. it just makes the balls shoot out faster or slower

[pseudo flicker]

Are you in world 4 yet?

[forest rain]

yea

[pseudo storm]

One less thing to min-max in my book 😄

[pseudo flicker]

Put all your characters into the lab except the one you’re pushing on, and push to world 5

Get that 2x portal kills bonus from the lab

[burnt merlin]

the real question is. which tilt do y'all put on the arcade mini-minigame?

[forest rain]

I didn't figure out this part. Like, if I put them to lab, how they get exp/from what? xd

[pseudo storm]

im a leftie so i throw it to the left

[pseudo flicker]

They get lab exp when you claim your afk time on them

[fair hare]

Lava said that the bottom option was best for the jackpot, though I usually go top or iddle.

[burnt merlin]

level up lab. lab = bonuses. afk=shrines

[forest rain]

Oh, thanks.

So placing blood berserker on the highest tier map and rest to lab?

[fair hare]

Except you gotta have whatever it is that makes the shrines work on the entire world. I'm tired, and it's escaping me what that is. lol.

[pseudo storm]

@fair hare Is summon xp multi the way to go with this GB shop?

[cerulean jasper]

Right tilt is best even though you sac 5 balls ong cause like one of those balls could earn you 10 more if it gets far enough so you just need to increase your odds

[burnt merlin]

well you can still level up the shrines with a bunch of characters afking and place them wherever later

[pseudo storm]

moai head from sailing or shrines world tour from lab

[burnt merlin]

according to some wiki entry, moai head is dependant on shrine world tour or smth, whatever that means

[cerulean jasper]

The shrine in town lab point that makes it active on the entire world

[pseudo flicker]

I would suggest swapping to either your divine knight or elemental sorcerer for pushing through world 4, blood berserker is pretty mediocre until world 6

[fair hare]

lmao. I've been dragging my feet on summoning, but I have been buying that in preparation. I have gpld balls and refinery maxed already.

[fair hare]

Thanks! I just could NOT remember, and was too tired/lazy to look it up. :)

[burnt merlin]

can anyone tell me which mage class is the best for nutto and dedoated ram killjoys? i usually just toss whatever in, but i want to actually try to get something good for tome

[pseudo flicker]

I mean it’ll just always be AC no? For all the aoe clear it has

[burnt merlin]

no ac for me. i gotta push farther into w5 to unlock the mobs for masterclass quest

is bubo still better?

[fair hare]

I've been having better luck with Bubo (techinically AC, but never used it) than I used to with ES, but it wasn't always that way.

[pseudo flicker]

Oh, still probably your bubo as long as the poison can oneshot them

[burnt merlin]

ive got big stonks damage, doing billions 😔

tens of billions even

[pseudo flicker]

Once you get your AC it will help quite a bit

Purple skulls are very strong

[forest rain]

Have two questions:

1. When/In which case do I press Charge Syphon?
2. Does speed(green) potion do anything useful? xd

[fair hare]

About 2 trill, but a lot of that is her robe. lol.

[pseudo flicker]

Never use charge siphon, you want all your characters to level up worship, so stealing charge from most of them is counterproductive

[burnt merlin]

the guide i saw said to use vmans charge, and then steal with ES but idk anything about that stuff

[pseudo flicker]

Speed potions are useful early on your bowman/siege breaker, as they get a damage multiplier from their excess movement speed

Speed potions are also useful later on for vman speedruns (don’t worry too much about that for now)

[pseudo flicker]

Should never use siphon charge

[fair hare]

Everyone can get points to buy souls to feed refinery, and level up at the same time for Skill mastery. I used Charge Syphon twice, really early on when there were very few points available on anyone, just to learn TD. :)

[burnt merlin]

im just too lazy to do everyone

[fair hare]

All they have to do is buy the souls in W3. lol.

[pseudo flicker]

Do you have the w3 automated thing for worship yet?

[burnt merlin]

im assuming that has something to do with whatever the msa is

[pseudo flicker]

Yeah get that asap

[burnt merlin]

im working on level 3 of the automated arm rn

[pseudo flicker]

I believe that’s exactly what that is

[burnt merlin]

oh damn. i didnt realize buying balls from killjoy was so good. i guess ill just do that from now on. refinery sucks in comparison

[pseudo flicker]

Yup

Kilroy balls actually got nerfed recently, you can ‘only’ get 500 balls per week now

[burnt merlin]

stop teasing me game 😭 it keeps going into a silver hole and getting portal ,and going back down to silver

[burnt merlin]

yeah "only" is probably a good way to put that imo. 500 may be a limit, but its still a pretty good amount

[fair hare]

Yeah, I don't think I've reached 500 yet, tbh.

[stone shadow]

yay

is this guy hard to use

[pseudo storm]

grats

[burnt merlin]

not really. you just gotta get speed buffs and multikill stuff to open portals faster

well with my limited knowledge about it

[fair hare]

Ooh. It just occurred to me I could put my Bubo's gear on my unclassed beginners and get them a little further.

[burnt merlin]

it says it has high difficulty, but i find it alot "easier" than the master classes

[stone shadow]

oh k

giant mob odds reset every day right?

[fair hare]

Weekly with the prayer?

(I think)

[burnt merlin]

yeah

[stone shadow]

damn

[burnt merlin]

"This resets every week, at the same time as your weekly Guild Tasks."

thats why the bubble to have a chance to not reduce your odds is good

[stone shadow]

i need to do the quest for chizoar keys

[fair hare]

You don't need the giants for the keys, though, do you? (Been a while, I honestly dont remember.) I thought that was just for the token.

[burnt merlin]

there is a quest to kill a giant eye for like 2? keys or smth

[fair hare]

Yeah, just looked it up. You get 2 more

[burnt merlin]

oh i was right, exactly 2

[fair hare]

It's the lens thing you don't actually have to do, but that was easy anyway.

[burnt merlin]

my multi-kill is really throwing off my active kill/hour calculations

[fair hare]

When my two guys actually get classes they're going to have a nice head start. lol.

[burnt merlin]

well that and the 281% afk gains

[burnt merlin]

you should get a secret class just for getting a beginner to 500 kek

[fair hare]

Ugh. I calc that when I'm doing active. I check the time and monsters, let 10 or 15 minutes go by, then multiply it out the gain.

I REALLY hate the way it makes it so hard to figure out how many drops you're going to get.

[burnt merlin]

yeah. it would at least be nice to have like a base/active number, and then the multi-kills

especially since active farming is kinda important for some stuff

[fair hare]

Yessir.

[dreamy solar]

Mine are 800

[burnt merlin]

you should be locked into being a beginner for being an indecisive monster

just pick a class and regret, like the rest of us

[dreamy solar]

I have 3 I’m waiting for the new MCs

[fair hare]

How'd you get 'em that high? It's been rough getting them to and over 400, though I think loaning them Bubo's gear will help with that.

[fair hare]

I have two DKs, but am leaving the other two for the same reason.

I figure that if necessary, I can reset one of the DKs.

I think I can, anyway. Isn't only MCs that can't be reset?

[burnt merlin]

well you could "reset" the mc...to a level 1 beginner

for 999 gems

[fair hare]

That's what I mean, yeah. I don't think that works with Masterclasses, though, though the dialog doesn't say that so I wonder why I think that. 🤣

[cerulean jasper]

@fair hare since your the goat do you know if it’s possible to link mobile to steam?

[fair hare]

Haha, I am barely higher than you trust me.

And I started on mobile and went to Steam, but don't know if it works the other way around.

[burnt merlin]

well the subclass swap token specifies that you cant, so that might be why

well it doesnt say master, but it says you cant do elite

so that would apply to master too

[cerulean jasper]

There’s a way to get 999 gems by going back to lvl 1?

[burnt merlin]

no it costs 999 gems

[cerulean jasper]

Oh…

[burnt merlin]

"you can redo the class quests and become whatever you like"

[fair hare]

But you can only do it one time for one character, and never again.

[burnt merlin]

so idk why it wouldnt work on masterclasses, especially if its only doable once

[cerulean jasper]

It’s not useful for me cause my setup is goated trust

[burnt merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/rule-27-ze-epik-meme-rules-rule-cooking-fail-fire-gif-14426984358921126664

[fair hare]

But it'd be worth it to me if it turned out there were three amazing new masterclasses.

[cerulean jasper]

Every class is guaranteed a master class

[burnt merlin]

royal guard at least doesnt sound super amazing, but it depends on what skills it affects

or what bonuses it gives

[fair hare]

But A) All masterclasses aren't created equal and B) at the rate masterclasses are released, I may not be playing by the last one. lol.

[burnt merlin]

not playing?

[fair hare]

Didn't the last three come out over 18 months or something? Before my time. WW came out right around the time I started, I think.

[burnt merlin]

i dont trust this ai because it gives false info in the very line, but it says jan 19/25 for the first one

[fair hare]

Death Bringer came out 1/20/2025

[burnt merlin]

but the ai also says "Arcane Cultist (Divine Knight Master Class)"

[fair hare]

That sounds close-ish. My start date was April 30th or something.

[burnt merlin]

sooo idk how accurate it is

[fair hare]

Windwalker was 4/23, and AC was 6/23, so pretty close together actually.

[dreamy solar]

Idk how I do a lot of stuff in this game it kinda just happens

[fair hare]

Fair enough!

[dreamy solar]

I zone out and I’m like “oh where did this come from”

Somehow my damage gets higher

[fair hare]

My 409 beginner, without Bubo's robe/gingerbread nametag is only around 250m - those two pieces of gear double it.

[dreamy solar]

Summoning helps… a lot… with damage

[fair hare]

Wait, I think it's billions, not millions. lol.

[dreamy solar]

I think like 3 rounds of teal summoning 10x’d my damage

[fair hare]

Yeah, billions. And I'm finally going to break down and start summoning tomorrow, I think. I moved to W6 like...beginning of October or something? Probably done it 6 or 7 times that first day, and won 4. Bought some things that created essence, which I think has been making my guys level up a bit without doing anything.

[dreamy solar]

Summoning is amazing

[fair hare]

This is my beginner's summoning level, and as I said, I have like...2 hours of summoning in or something.

[dreamy solar]

Very first thing is like a 2x damage or something

[fair hare]

I think I got overwhelmed. I was way behind in 1-2-3-4, and was still trying to work out the L4 stuff especially. Refinery sucked and I wanted the stamp. So I jumped from 4 to 6 in a couple of days and had divinity, sailing, gaming, summoning, sneaking, farming all at the same time, when I still hadn't figured out breeding, cooking and lab. lol.

[dreamy solar]

Summoning damage is key

[fair hare]

So I basically skipped farming and summoning, though I have done a little bit of farming. (And my farming is lower level than my summoning, which I haven't done. Go figure.)

Sneaking was easy once I stopped dying. lol.

[dreamy solar]

Fair enough

Hey I put off farming til I got demon flesh in w7 and then remembered it was a thing so

[fair hare]

Hahaha!

Eh, I'll go watch a summoning video or something tomorrow. Prolly should do a farming one, too.

I think I have 25 crops now, but I'm really not clear on what I'm supposed to be doing, and they are almost always the wrong ones for buying stuff.

[burnt merlin]

most of the w6 skills seem pretty passive. especially compared to me trying to deal with these MC forms 😭

[radiant bison]

Today I learned "the nuke" technically works w/o alchemic its just slower like alot slower(basically the very slow increase of badabums will slowly make the bones do enough dmg)
this is for spice unlocking

[burnt merlin]

so much farming, so much lag after leaving it on overnight

[fair hare]

I got masterclasses right after I got W6, and haven't played them that way. I did try WW for about an hour. DB is on my to do list, too.

[burnt merlin]

its very slow

[radiant bison]

Getting the afk for each mc makes em a lot less active

[radiant bison]

you dont have the afk items for each masterclass?

[burnt merlin]

i only have 500 of the items

[radiant bison]

yea btw farm beans/frogs after getting ur stats up for those tends to be better

[fair hare]

My problem is I track down a set that works for unlocking spices, get a few, need to level up, get stronger, then forget what I used previously so have to figure it all out again. Memory retention of a gnat, I swear.

[radiant bison]

this is all ya need

lower power = longer time to beat thats it

it is a little luck based

[fair hare]

lol, I literally haven't even opened grimoire or anything. I mean 100% haven't played AC or DB for even a second. So I don't have really a concept of what is involved.

[radiant bison]

ah

[burnt merlin]

you become really weak and have to earn currency from killing mobs to increase the forms stats

[radiant bison]

btw if u dont have alchemic this is basically a loss

reason: bones = damage in this case

[fair hare]

I'll mark this and give it a shot. As long as it is auto. 🤣

[radiant bison]

it is

its just gambling at higher tier stuff though lmao

[burnt merlin]

i guess ill just put myself on frogs for awhile then and hope that i get them reasonably soon

[dreamy solar]

Unlock afk for both like immediately

[radiant bison]

Its still slow just less slow

[fair hare]

Ick. lol. I remember that about my short WW test. At the time I said that if I wanted to start over as a beginner, I'd just open another account. But I was feeling pretty pissy about the whole thing at the time. :P

[radiant bison]

WW took me ~16 hrs total to get afk WW

[burnt merlin]

my ww is a bit closer with 700 of the drops

[fair hare]

I just kinda died repeatedly. lol.

[burnt merlin]

sounds like you tried to progress too quickly

[radiant bison]

you didnt have survivability and just rushed didnt ya?

[burnt merlin]

if you look at the cards tab of the codex it gives the mobs stats

and gives you an idea of where you should be grinding

[fair hare]

Well, been playing for 8 months, which didn't feel like rushing but maybe so :)

[radiant bison]

I mean it took me 5 odd months to reach w6

[burnt merlin]

playing the regular game, and master class form are 2 seperate things

you have been playing for 2 seconds once you go into that form

[fair hare]

Yeah, about six here, I think.

[radiant bison]

yea master class form is basically a stat reset kaidi

[fair hare]

BUT, almost no time in W5/W6.

[radiant bison]

u cant just go guns blazing into w1 boss

[fair hare]

(At the time.)

[radiant bison]

I spent most of my time in w4 and 5 so far

lets go gambling paid off!

https://tenor.com/view/i-can't-stop-winning-lets-go-gambling-gif-7706745854605433240

[fair hare]

My guild leader (just a passive guild for points) told me to start with DB, so that's the plan.

[radiant bison]

Id start w/ WW actually

[fair hare]

(Though my BB/DB isn't nearly as strong as Bubo/AC.

[radiant bison]

easiest to unlock afk on :P

bubo/ac is the worst for unlocking afk but gives the biggest bonuses active

[burnt merlin]

the only things from your class that really affect your masterclass form are your talents, and your masterclass upgrades you unlock with currency

[fair hare]

I've tried that one, and I think it'd just tick me off at this point. So I'll try a different one that I don't associate with a really un-fun day, and come back to WW later.

[radiant bison]

WW is literally the simplest and easiest of the 3

[burnt merlin]

yeah i am progressing through ww alot faster than db

[radiant bison]

Just focus one active at a time till ya get the afk then u can ping pong w/o consequences

[fair hare]

Well, maybe I'll skip 'em all then, lol. I have much much much stuff to get done in W5 and W6.

[burnt merlin]

yeah rn i am just going to let db sit there for 5 years getting fragments in frog

[radiant bison]

I mean AC 200 talents are practically mandatory(for tenteyecle)

400 talents are actually mandatory to progress past w2 reasonably

[fair hare]

My Tentacycle is 200+ (though not much plus, lol)

[radiant bison]

for AC in particularly

[radiant bison]

then ur able to do w1 and like half of 2 ac

[burnt merlin]

ac sounds like the worst from what ive heard

[radiant bison]

it is

I have all 3 unlocked, only WW w/ afk 20% ish for db afk and 2% or so for AC

[burnt merlin]

but i assume there are some good buffs that you unlock from whatever the classes upgrade shop is

[radiant bison]

yea dr and the thing that makes alchemy more busted

[burnt merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-make-me-go-to-that-place-bad-place-dislike-i-dont-like-to-go-gif-15097798

i feel like i need to filter all the drops of whatever mob i am active farming if i dont want my game to die

[radiant bison]

no autoloot?

[burnt merlin]

autoloot only works for so long until your inventory is full, especially when you forget to turn off tempest drops before going to sleep for 10 hours

[radiant bison]

right

yea I did WW afk unlock w/o autoloot

filter is defo needed

just filter ur current mob

and the rare loot u dont want to deal w/

[burnt merlin]

it would be nice if automation arm had an option to empty your bag into your chest like once a day when you fill up or smth

[radiant bison]

like a 1/20k world 1 upgrade stone is worthless

and clogs a slot

[burnt merlin]

hey i need that +1 primary stat that might actually give me -1

[radiant bison]

Not that one

That one is used in a stamp

Im talking like the weapon +1 +1 one

[burnt merlin]

upgrade stones are used in stamps? 😭

[radiant bison]

yea the mystery ones are

[burnt merlin]

im going to pretend you didnt say that and leave them all filtered out

[radiant bison]

who needs alchemic anyways

[astral tulip]

little help pls . how to deposite item far from map without using skill ?

[burnt merlin]

all i need are obols, silver pens, statues, and golden food

[burnt merlin]

get dedodated ram

[radiant bison]

so your gonna miss out on that +2 all stat?

Which only costs like 1 inventory slot

[astral tulip]

pet ?

[burnt merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/principal-skinner-yes-seymour-skinner-the-simpsons-enthusiastic-yes-gif-15806751

[burnt merlin]

also yes

[fair hare]

That is absolutely what I do, especially for overnight.

[radiant bison]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-muppets-meme-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-16984538577250620315

[burnt merlin]

yeah. i thought it would despawn fast enough but my game was crawling when i woke up

[radiant bison]

Salzgard its base stat all stat though so its affected by % str % all stat % wis etc

[astral tulip]

... there like 1% to get that .. GG

[burnt merlin]

or 100% if you ask nicely

[radiant bison]

oh yea isnt that like THE most common pet thats tradable bc of packs

[burnt merlin]

and it doesnt have alot of trading power

its useful, but too common

[astral tulip]

how to get 100% ...

[burnt merlin]

by meeting me in carrot server 17 w1 and getting it

[radiant bison]

yea I was gifted a ram for free

I think before this event

genuinely doot was still like top 3 strongest pet

[fair hare]

I love my Ram.

[astral tulip]

yes sir ♥

[fair hare]

Carrton?

[radiant bison]

❤

[astral tulip]

omg tks u

[fair hare]

Ahh, Carrot.

[radiant bison]

❤ this is the more normal looking heart btw

[fair hare]

(There's a lot of funny spelling in this game, so I just assumed is was some Lava-esque thing.)

[radiant bison]

@fair hare you think theyll beat me shields?

[burnt merlin]

well it could've been a mis-spelling of carton, like a carton of milk

[astral tulip]

i use alt +3 to make the heart hehe

[radiant bison]

♥ oh yea

I forgot what the alt code for the one I use is

[burnt merlin]

my code is alt+f4

[astral tulip]

♦ alt +4 ♣ alt+5 =))

the for gamble haha

[burnt merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-bwoi-grin-chef-gif-18525191

[fair hare]

I dunno - which territory is that? I'm not sure I've done it yet.

[radiant bison]

Like the world 6 ones

the 3rd or 4th to final one atm I believe

this is the 2nd world 6 one

b4 this I didnt even have the w4 ones

[burnt merlin]

its kind of funny that blunder hills has the absolutely most useless card set effect

[fair hare]

It's the last one I have, so if I got it, you surely will.

[radiant bison]

I cant go further rn bc my map prog in w6 isnt enough

[fair hare]

My next one is Lullaby Airways

[radiant bison]

so this is my last one for now

[radiant bison]

Im not there yet in w6

[fair hare]

I can't do it yet, either, I can just see it with a lock.

So it's Ceramic or beyond

Ceramic. I've been on the Ceramic map for weeks, lol.

[radiant bison]

ok so ❤ doesnt exist in alt codes for my keyboard

[fair hare]

Though I'm not doing several hours a day any more because it was just taking too long.

I think this map started out as 25m, and I'm down to 19.5m. Something like that, anyway. And I don't know if I need to do it on multiple charactes.

[radiant bison]

oh damn

I have crit chance now!

[fair hare]

Yay! I don't think I've leveled that one much. I mostly work hard cooking stuff for cooking boosts, with some pet stuff thrown in there. lol.

Oh, it's 20, so I guess I did some on it.

Or NMLB, maybe.

[radiant bison]

I mean there is a statue that makes it pointless

but pre statue grind its pretty good

[fair hare]

Is that the Pow one (that is so hard to get except from the monolith quest)?

I just started farming power statues again - slowly, not obsessively this time, lol - so I can run other peeps through that quest line.

[burnt merlin]

is "no more praying" actually a good superbit upgrade to get?

[fair hare]

I've read bad things about it, but then asked, and someone told me I should get it anyway because there are some edge cases where it's useful. That's all I know. (Other than there's another prayer one later in the game for super duper bits or something.)

So right now, I'm saving bits, and trying to ramp up my production a little.

[burnt merlin]

it sounds either really useful, or really useless. because it would be nice to not have any curses, but i dont think that only have 1/5th of the power is a good trade off

[radiant bison]

Its really useless 99.9% of the time

its useful .1% of the time

[fair hare]

Apparently it turns off giant mobs entirely, unless you add the prayer.

[burnt merlin]

well that seals the deal then

[radiant bison]

I mean still get it

just dont push for it

[burnt merlin]

yeah ill get it eventually, but its mega low priority

[fair hare]

But whoever it was I talked to said it really wouldn't affect me that much.

[fair hare]

I could get it now, but I figure I'll work around it for the moment. :P

Eh, I need bed/blankie/book. Gnight guys :)

[burnt merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-goodbye-bye-bye-bye-im-done-sorry-gif-17148570

[radiant bison]

Im working on all meals silver tier now

void*

like 90% of unlocked atm

tomarrow night Ill get like 4 new spices

[burnt merlin]

i really need to work on my cooking upgrades and recipe speed. some of these say 30 days for cooking times

[peak lagoon]

am i crazy but is the hole bonus for grey dna not working like i think it does im getting 13 dna per trashed pet but i have over 1k percent dnat, does it normally give 1 or am i missing something

[abstract helm]

On to my 8th character is there a newer break down of how many classes to have? i see a lot of differing opinions

[keen summit]

Get one of each

[abstract helm]

so rn i have 1 of each just trying to see what to double up on

wiz/sham/barb/squ/bow/hunt/jrny

[dusk plover]

on the amarok gear set which upgrade stones do i use?

[arctic yarrow]

2 squire for ur cogboard. the rest is up to u. ive seen people run 2 barb or 2 shaman,

[nocturne tangle]

should I be saving up my balloons and candies?

[glad prism]

@vocal forge

[shadow zenith]

Are whale wallop kills affected by multi kill?

[stone shadow]

your newest ones

like ur latest world stones

[sterile spindle]

I've just unlocked my 9th character, and I'm wondering what to turn them into. Would I be completely insane to go for a second VMan? My theory being that boosting seven other characters is better than just adding another elementalist or whatever

Or do the VMan bonuses not stack?

[hollow cave]

assuming you mean the Vman Enhancement I don't think so, nor does it work afk, I think it's only real active kills

[raw cobalt]

Hi everyone, i have a huge problem in killing skull mobs in rift. Yeah, i spent 2 hours for 5k skull mobs. Anyone has idea how to complete these rift challenges faster?

[radiant bison]

this is evil

Id need to do 121 items

I got it off by one once

thank god I can cheese it

[stone shadow]

can you drop items to cheese it?

[stone shadow]

they dont

[stone shadow]

get 3 of each class and you can go for 2es/2ac, 2sb, 2dk/2db

[radiant bison]

yea specifically the item these guys dro

you gotta do it individually though

[stone shadow]

split stack?

[radiant bison]

so I manually dropped singles of the monocles 121 times

[stone shadow]

thats painful

[radiant bison]

yea

and its based on ur name length

[stone shadow]

i have a char with a name length of 11 and one with 4 name length

i wonder will i choose to suffer or no

[radiant bison]

4 means only 16 items

[radiant bison]

you have the charname swag?

[stone shadow]

nah not avaliable

vm4n for my vman

[radiant bison]

damn

still a 4 letter is thats coherent is tougher n tougher to get as time goes on

[stone shadow]

hhuh?

[silver condor]

Does anyone have a pet arena build for me please

[radiant bison]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#gid=893917212

public spreadsheet btw
I just dont feel like remembering ze command

[silver condor]

Thank you

[radiant bison]

+40 slab in like 40 mins

Walupiggy: Treasure Hunt time

my goal is to get atleast 1010

[stone shadow]

isnt that kinda outdated

[radiant bison]

yes but its good for pets

bc breeding has changed THAT LITTLE

[stone shadow]

w7 spices?

[radiant bison]

Same setup works for ALL spices

its just a stall build

the build could beat 10 quad damage and hp if u just afk for long enough

its just some rng at the start

it even works w/o alchemic(not recomended)

though not having alchemic makes the 200 waves for the first time a tad easier(bc looter cant just delete ur defense)

[arctic yarrow]

[hollow cave]

I'm with ya but a day behind, at 27

[tawny ruin]

@somber coyote @mossy anvil can I send u my toolbox now I improved like a few other vials to max and got all splices what should I do now I’ll try focus on cooking and breading but is there smth else?

[somber coyote]

i don't think nejo does reviews

[tawny ruin]

https://idleontoolbox.com?profile=Jordammm

[tawny ruin]

If not then it’s fine

[quartz halo]

Can someone help me summon king doot mini boss?

[somber coyote]

im a bit busy but i'll check through and let u know

idk when i'll check through it tho

so far i copied it

[tawny ruin]

I’m busy anyway just thought I’ll lyk abt my progress

And ask if u got new tips

[exotic stratus]

!!!

[dusky galleon]

Welcome to earlygame

[wraith meteor]

I hate yondergreen

[robust marsh]

Isn't that tutorial

[dusky galleon]

Nope

[robust marsh]

Yep it is

[dusky galleon]

Yeah actually I realized it is the tutorial

[twilit garden]

I had a top 95%

[iron sage]

golden stopwatch doesnt work on it xD nice p2w

[timber yoke]

what should be the meals to get the highest level ribbons on?

[opal needle]

its not retroactive either 🥀

[arctic yarrow]

yumi peachring

[golden patio]

Chips that are put into a character in lab, just affect that char or all?

[atomic scroll]

the former (they only affect the char that equipped them)

[karmic umbra]

Heyy im looking for good cog board

[opaque saddle]

Can a group of people help me complete galaticus and snakeotep? Its a question I need to do for my equinox

[opal needle]

check pins for optimal layout, make sure to always use EXP cogs

[iron sage]

is it worth to buy to swap from 2 hunters into 2 bowmans?

[elder hare]

got to world 4 but I can't do anything for an hour cause I checked out breeding and did the eggs I had before I found the quest NPC and the quest NPC wants me to do breeding before it will let me go to the zones

guess I kill more poops

[foggy dagger]

are friend bonuses relevant or are they negligible?

[iron sage]

they are huge

[foggy dagger]

oh damn

anyone wanna be friends : D?

[iron sage]

Just ask 1 k lvl players in town

they will give it to you probly

it took me 1 guy that i asked for bonuses

[foggy dagger]

alright sounds good!

[pliant echo]

3D printer, why are you yellow? I have Harriep and Lab, you should be purple

[astral lava]

Maybe Visual problems

[pliant echo]

I guess so

Turning off Harriep sets it back to blue

But turning off lab while harriep is still active also sets it to blue

[iron sage]

I mean who even cares about colors

[true hamlet]

cog 4 w1 town if you want

[pliant echo]

Me, cuz the last time the colors were wrong, my printer actually didn't print the multiplied amount

[iron sage]

just check idleon eff for it

way better than ingmae one

[hollow bane]

will mobile ever be up to date 🤣

[runic oak]

which class should i get for my 9th character

[iron sage]

how would we know what u got

[runic oak]

a bb, a dk,every sec class and maestro

[rigid ledge]

whats best to enhance first?

[mossy anvil]

yeah i dont, idc about other accounts

[south salmon]

I’m trying to beat rift 44 which is get a wormhole score of 60 on elemental sorcerer but i only make it 30 my wormhole is maxed out and my stat points are maxed only thing i can think about to add more damage is

food
cards equipped (but also not sure which cards to put that would increases my damage)

• should i go for wisdom based cards or damage based cards

[somber coyote]

not necessarily in that order but also in that order

what you wanna do is get the red 1 maxed first no matter what, then focus on village majik til cavern 11 or 12 (i'd say 12 even 13 if you're a psychopath)
then reset go for red for more notes and rupies
then reset again remove notes and have what i listed in that order (red and blue combined) removing the strings for a bit

put points in idleon majik only on the god slot if you don't have doot

with doot can ignore

[somber coyote]

you're just too weak

30 is very little you lack damage

wisdom won't help that, if anything more weapon power or total damage cards might make some of a difference

but not from 30 to 60

[opal needle]

just a few more.....

and i'll have had all 3 masterclasses on AFK

[cloud stump]

Does this mean I have to upgrade from my inventory now?

[burnt merlin]

you can make another stack of logs in your chest

[cloud stump]

Something so simple is making my jaw drop. It never even occurred to me to do that LOL

[obtuse thistle]

do yin and yang cogs upgrade when i level up construction or should i wait to get them until i have high lvl?

[fair hare]

Mine seem to be just upgrading as I go.

[mossy anvil]

idk compare

[obtuse thistle]

better than mine for sure

[mossy anvil]

so u got your answer then

[south salmon]

well i got it to 51 but ran out of time haha if i were to upgrade the wormhole skill would it increase the time?

because im at 71 seconds rn

[gaunt dragon]

wtf, this npc is blocking my tower for upgrades...

[south salmon]

(edit) holy i literally found every stat increase possible and got it LOL

[tall flume]

do i have to point % speed to flags cog at the flags or at my charas?

[somber coyote]

nejo question

since you got the tag from the candle

[mossy anvil]

yes

[somber coyote]

are you able to use another candle to get another tag?

[wild fiber]

for rift skull point, is it better to use SB

[mossy anvil]

0.1 u can get only once from candle

[somber coyote]

so the other candles become unusable?

[mossy anvil]

it says u already used it and got tag when u try again

[somber coyote]

thx

sad

[mossy anvil]

and blue just bugs out

[somber coyote]

yeah blue i knew

my yellow didn't come true yet

[wild fiber]

blue candle is not usable after event

[mossy anvil]

i got mine after 21 tries

[somber coyote]

im at 28 bro

but i already know i'll get it on 59 out 60

mark my words

[mossy anvil]

max is 60?

[fair hare]

I didn't win either blue or yellow, but Keilen posted last night that I won a Bunny, which is the pet I actually wanted. 🎉

[fair hare]

The only thing it does seem to be useful for is that it allows you to still buy Christmas pet packs. 🤣

[rocky roost]

Is the 3x liquid level worth having active? it seems to be kinda bad given the nerf to gain no? In lab

[fair hare]

I think what I heard is you don't want it on during CC, but it's good other than that?

[mossy anvil]

if u need to level up bubble thousands of times u use it so u dont have to cc every 10 min

[faint crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/meowscarada-sniffing-floragato-pokemon-cute-gif-2107339067610317337

hi noobies

[balmy crystal]

hi nub

[mossy anvil]

hi noobest

[faint crystal]

bakanoobu

[faint crystal]

deadttypenoobo

[mossy anvil]

[balmy crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324964674462154803/1383571557057822914/yepe.gif

[faint crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324964674462154803/1383571557057822914/yepe.gif

[mossy anvil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324964674462154803/1383571557057822914/yepe.gif

i got my luckiest lad, i dont remember if u guys have been informed

[balmy crystal]

i never got my luckiest lad

[shut hull]

Dungeon run happy hour in an hour will you come run with us

[balmy crystal]

sure

[shut hull]

Yippee!

[balmy crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1236455214668583067/1413634069014642771/yippe.gif

[unreal onyx]

Any archers able to help summon doot in Pizza 1?

[wild fiber]

i wonder if i should wait for the second more egg space

[mossy anvil]

how about geting troll recipe

[unique bolt]

whats an easy way to do this quest bc i dont get odd damage

[mossy anvil]

start worhip and hit monmsters there

[unique bolt]

ok thanks

[finite viper]

whats the best way to far chizoar keys

[balmy crystal]

killing slush with dk

[mossy anvil]

is 3.60 dr ok to do it

[balmy crystal]

nah the minimum is 1,01x dr

[wild fiber]

i feel like running guy is laughing at me for not getting enough power statue

[fair hare]

I remember thinking the same thing. :)

[finite viper]

whats the best way to get the kattle key chain thing from the boss

[fair hare]

Weird question: Does damage/lack of defense affect KPH if you have food and aren't dying?

[rocky roost]

Does anyone have a good card set for lab/divinity?

[burnt merlin]

i dont think defence does, but damage can because of multi-kill or high mob health

[fair hare]

I worded that badly. I meant this one:

[flat forge]

Only AFK I think if your survivability isn’t 100%

[burnt merlin]

oh you meant no damage required. no it shouldnt

yeah as long as survivability is at 100% it doesnt matter how its done

[fair hare]

In the past couple of days, I raised my defense 2.5x 🤣

[ashen steppe]

Prisma fmj best bubble in the game

[dense pine]

any way to know whats the highest xp % you can get from a cog besides trial and error?

[burnt merlin]

ive given up on using defence. i get all my survivability from health and goblet of hemoglobin

[fair hare]

Oh, I have 20 prismas left from events. I will do that, thanks!

[fair hare]

Samesame. I'm just getting really tired of Ceramics. :/

[unique bolt]

where do i have to be?

[fair hare]

Hmm. And this was plus a few levels of FMJ.

[dense pine]

map with snouts

[unique bolt]

so that would be?

[dense pine]

the map with the npc called snouts

[unique bolt]

ahh ok thanks

[dense pine]

the npc names totally dont show up when you click an area on the map screen

[burnt merlin]

i just wish there was a section for trapping

well i guess it doesnt matter with the drone, but before that it sucked

[fair hare]

Still kinda sucks, but that's mainly because I use it wrong. lol.

[fair hare]

Looks like there are formulas out for pre-W7 cogs, but you probably want the W7 ones.

[dense pine]

no

i want the normal ones

[iron sage]

what does it mean ?

that i cant upgrade it no more ? and should get rid of it ?

[dense pine]

wouldnt matter for the gem ones since youre limited on how many you can get in a day

[dense pine]

you can keep upgrading it

doesnt really mean anything, just a threshold

[fair hare]

Eh. He posted it as a screenshot, so you can't like...copy/paste/test. (#endgame-gen-chat message)

[dense pine]

ugh what a headache, thx tho

[fair hare]

And here's a really old post, that looks simpler? #endgame-gen-chat message

At least it explains how they are calculated.

[mossy anvil]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-WVcuc5AHtCsAEFy48lAvBzYKLuSIwMp1IU8sqUMpUU/edit?gid=0#gid=0 make copy, paste your level, save yourself a headache

[fair hare]

Nice, thank you!

[dense pine]

sick, thx both

[thick tapir]

worshipping

[dense pine]

ahh...my laziness is showing

i was just about to say ''ill do like 150 on all my cogs and leave it at that''

fml

[mossy anvil]

[fair hare]

Mine are a lot lower than yours, lol. But I wonder about this, because the highest cog I have ever gotten is 102.

[dense pine]

yea cogs are...something

highest normal one ive ever gotten is a 198

[fair hare]

And that is with me constantly replacing the lowest cog, when I get one that is higher than what is on the board.

[dense pine]

and im getting like 2 150s from 7 full pages

[shut hull]

Cogs are neat. I am not

[mossy anvil]

feels like mine is ok thanks to jeweled cogs

[fair hare]

Are Jeweled Cogs a W7 thing, or...?

[mossy anvil]

gaming or w7

[dense pine]

to get a reasonable amount youd need to be w7

[fair hare]

Ah, W7 is who-knows-when for me, but at least I'm working on gaming.

[mystic vigil]

can you even get jeweled cogs before w7? don't they come from duperbits?

[dense pine]

whatever, ill just do 150%s anyway since jeweled cogs make normal cogs fairly irrelevant anyway

[mossy anvil]

they do, but do u need to be in w7 to unlock them?

[coral patrol]

Why am I losing blue salts when I should be printing like 50/hr of them, im not salt locked on anything and have been following a refinery spreadsheet. Only seems to happen when im 'afk' aswell, actively playing im making 50 like normal, its driving me crazy

[mystic vigil]

yeah cause duperbits come from spelunking

[mossy anvil]

oh makes sense then

[fair hare]

Are you leaving your cloud save screen up overnight?

[coral patrol]

No, i turn my pc off.

I have doot, and when refinery afk procs i also lose blue salts

[dense pine]

oh welp

[coral patrol]

its so strange

[rocky roost]

Chat btw, it’s counter intuitive to be active logged in while the character I’m logged into is in lab right? It nerfs my gains right?

[mossy anvil]

are u aware that green salt eats blue?

[fair hare]

Well, maybe by my 1 year anniversary then. :)

[mystic vigil]

pretty sure you gain no lab xp while active

[coral patrol]

Yes lol, like i said im not salt locked on any of the salts, my ranks are fine so that i should be printing a small amount of every salt

[fair hare]

Could you post a picture of your tabs with Rank selected?

[rocky roost]

Interesting, good to know then. I’ll either just not log in or active farm something on one character while the other ones are in lab

So close to lvl 40 divinity on all characters. Finally free

[mossy anvil]

maybe it has something to do with green has higher cycle time and maybe u have panda pet so it just eats everything u have coz buffer is not high enough

[fair hare]

That's what I was wondering.

[rocky roost]

(I fear I might need to put everyone to afk in the first spelunking cave after)

[coral patrol]

Cant seem to post images here, I can send my toolbox link hang on

[fair hare]

Ahh - you have to talk off and on for a little while to get image permissions. :)

[dense pine]

this is gonna take a while

guess i may as well finish my zen cogs

[mystic vigil]

time for whitescreen galore

[dense pine]

ive never white screened in my life

[fair hare]

I hate the cog screen for whitescreens.

[dense pine]

so, maybe not?

[mystic vigil]

lucky you

[mossy anvil]

why its empty

[fair hare]

Probably 80% of mine are when I'm on this screen.

[dense pine]

feel like it should have happened by now if im susceptible

[coral patrol]

https://idleontoolbox.com?profile=Avysto

[dense pine]

deleted all my sub 150% cogs so i dont have to keep switching them out

[coral patrol]

Lmk if you guys figure it out, cus i have no clue

[mossy anvil]

now u are forced to place better ones instead of just sawpping

[coral patrol]

All i know is that i just had 1000 blue salts in storage, doot procced with 14 hr afk refinery gains and i went down to 300 in storage...

[fair hare]

It's not showing me this.

[mossy anvil]

if i see it correctly u are eating more than u are producing

[fair hare]

There we go, it was just slow.

[dense pine]

saves me clicks from turning on and off trash mode

got both my excogias now at least

[coral patrol]

How? Im printing 141 blue per hour and using 88 blue per hour for green

[dense pine]

funnily enough, depsite that my board is nearly fully empty

my build rate has doubled already

[fair hare]

But blue is 4x faster than green.

[mossy anvil]

yeah i forgor about cycle time

even if i mentioned it myself before

[coral patrol]

Yeah i cant see how i could possibly be losing salts

[rugged pine]

Hi, is there a reason why I can't use experience balloons to level up construction?

[mossy anvil]

then its about your max cap there?

[coral patrol]

Other than a bug?

[honest cradle]

finally hit 500, dragon statue op

[fair hare]

OK, this will sound weird but hear me out. Are you running out of resources like souls overnight? And then when you log in it auto collects, so it doesn't look like you're out (and you aren't out any more)?

A guess a simpler question is, do you check your run-time before logging off?

[fair hare]

And time to claim your free companion. 🤣

[coral patrol]

As far as im aware the only thing im losing is blue salts. everything else i have way more than enough to print the salts for.

[fair hare]

Still looking, but keep an eye on Green's yellow souls. You don't have enough to rank up.

[coral patrol]

I mean i have like 500 hours worth of mob drops for most of the salts maybe 100 hours for souls/critters? I dont see how i could be running out

[coral patrol]

I am aware of this yeah, im not trying to rank it up though.

Truly mind boggling tbh.

like i said at the start, it works normally, and i print a surplus of blue salts but only when im acitive and the game is on 😂

soon as i close the game i start losing them, im at a loss with it

[fair hare]

So this is weird and doesn't seem right, but it is an IT thing, not a your-account thing.

This shows the salts required for the next rank (in red):

And they definitely are NOT the same between ranks. (I checked mine, and it is doing the same thing.)

Maybe it's always been like that and means something different than I think it does, though.

[fair hare]

I think the only time I have had that happen is when I've been on the cloud save screen (with all the peeps showing). Sometimes Idleon will have a second copy running on my computer, lol, but you said you shut the computer off at night.

[dense pine]

first time for everything

[fair hare]

It's weird - I was told to always keep both red and green ranking up, but since green may be somehow eating your blue, I prolly wouldn't do that.

[fair hare]

We cursed you. :(

[dense pine]

indeed

didnt lose any progress tho so its good

[coral patrol]

Yeah i need blue more than i need green atm, so im probably just gonna turn green and the others below it off

Thanks for trying to help mate.

[fair hare]

Yeah, that makes it not so bad. :/

[fair hare]

Sorry we couldn't help. Curious, how would you turn these off? (Other than running out of resources.)

[coral patrol]

You can stop them from producing, on/off switch on the right lol

sorry on the left 😂

[fair hare]

🤣 Oh duh. They haven't been off since I got them, I don't think, so almost 8 months. Those are decorations to me. Sheesh.

I even looked at my refinery before I asked that! 🤣

[coral patrol]

Hahaha no worries

[dense pine]

only 30 minutes, all 200% is honestly probably doable but ill save that for another day

got really unlucky with directionals

[fair hare]

Nice, though! Did it boost your experience a bunch?

[dense pine]

went from 12k to 14.8

[fair hare]

Last question I can think of - do you also play on mobile?

[fair hare]

That's worth 30 minutes!

[dense pine]

not amazing but ill take it

ive never cog clicked for over 5 minutes lmao

the xp boost should let me get a few lvls in the next few weeks and make 200s pretty easy

[fair hare]

OK, I guess that was next-to-last question: Have you verified your Steam install?

[coral patrol]

Im pretty sure ive just figured it out, because of this message

It looks like auto refine doesnt work while you're afk/the games off...

And my blue salts reach the rankup cap in 5 hours

[fair hare]

Oh, yeah, it won't rank up until you push the button!!

[coral patrol]

Which means any longer than 5 hours of AFK, i only make 5 hours worth of blue salts and then it stops

[mossy anvil]

!weeklyboss

[candid scarab]

Want the W2 Weekly Boss kill strategies? Of course you do. You can head to https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 and read the pins.

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[coral patrol]

I'm not trying to rank them up though. What hes saying is that even with auto refine on, they can only produce to the cap and wont go any higher but only when the games turned off

[mossy anvil]

why u dont try to rank up tho

[coral patrol]

Because if i rank up my blue i will be salt locked lol

[fair hare]

Mine take so much that I haven't notice that problem.

[coral patrol]

Blue ranks up much quicker than red and orange

[mossy anvil]

ye but what about red and stuff

[coral patrol]

I am ranking up my red

It takes 4 days though

[honest cradle]

so close to getting that snail upgrade and hopefully making gaming progress again

[coral patrol]

and blue takes 5 hours. if i rank up blue b4 red then im salt locked for weeks lol

[mossy anvil]

but there is orange between

[honest cradle]

How many grand discoveries you at chat?

[mossy anvil]

5 or something

[coral patrol]

Anyway I'm pretty sure that is the issue. any longer than 5 hours of afk and my blue salts just stop producing, even with auto refine on

[fair hare]

My blue takes about 23 hours (don't we have a refinery boost this week?) and my orange takes 5 days, so I haven't seen this. (Though with Doot, the obviously don't take 23 hours and 9 days. :P)

So I think as you level up this will be less of an issue?

[eager berry]

Hey guys 🙂 I noticed in cooking that the amount of meals to reach the next lvl is really high all of the sudden I feel like. Also somehow even though I have all the stacks of the Equinox thing I cant upgrade anything. Just wondering if it is like this for everyone?

[coral patrol]

Yeah, just have to be aware of it i think, i can safely run green and the rest while im actively playing the game, gotta turn them off when i go to bed though i guess to save blue salts

[fresh parrot]

9

[fair hare]

RN I'm doing kinda about 50% per tab, e.g. Red 29/Orange 15/Blue 7, currently all ranking up. (16/7/3 on the second tab.) So hopefully I can mostly avoid that issue.

I do still wonder about the weird salt rank-up values in IT.

[coral patrol]

I am following this

[fair hare]

But maybe it has always been like that and I never noticed.

[coral patrol]

I accidently ranked up my blue to 3 like 5 days ago when i was like level 7 red and i was salt locked for 5 days, so im not making the same mistake again

[fair hare]

That chart is really helpful to fix your salts, but it becomes a lot less useful as you level up.

(Even though it has higher ranks on it.)

[honest cradle]

Hm I need to spelunk more I guess

[arctic yarrow]

ahh 5 days salt lock.

[fair hare]

But with Doot, muchhhh shorter. :P

[dense pine]

elephant god.

[arctic yarrow]

pre doot, pre omniphau

[coral patrol]

it was 5 days with doot lol, would of been much longer without

[arctic yarrow]

i was salt lock for a month

[dense pine]

the nefarious world rushing:

[arctic yarrow]

i only did salt when i hit leek's spirit lock pre w7 nerf

[dense pine]

thats on you

[fair hare]

I screwed up at the beginning but caught it before it was TOO bad. It did take a while to fix, and that chart helped. But once it was fixed, I (personally, for my play style) was better off using wider spacing than that chart recommends, so I actually had enough salts to use, if you see what I mean.

[arctic yarrow]

i only came back to the game a month and a half atp

im all good now tho

[dense pine]

nice

[trail plaza]

yall i got high and made 4 billion iron bars. what do i do with them lmao

[honest cradle]

its ok, I didnt touch killroy for about 3 months

[dense pine]

i didnt even do anything, i did like one wisdom monu run

[arctic yarrow]

vials

[trail plaza]

my vials are done tho

[coral patrol]

Yeah thats my plan as i realised im not printing enough as i'd like

[arctic yarrow]

atomized them

[fair hare]

I didn't actually set out to do 32/16/8 or whatever, but that's the spacing that seems to leave me enough extra salt. I'll probably do some research and adjust again at some point, once certain things I'm working on are higher or done.

Like...31 more levels of salt lick refinery boost, and similar.

[mossy anvil]

tbh just keep leveling them up without bricking costs

[trail plaza]

unfortunately thats probably for the best, new player me would have a heart attack hearing that tho

[mossy anvil]

later it just become rank up spam anyway

[tranquil raptor]

Is this is right?

[arctic yarrow]

im basically doing what nejo is saying . all on manual and ranking them up while checking cost.

[fair hare]

I wouldn't follow it that far.

[arctic yarrow]

got nullo salt to hit the 1m cap a few days ago

[fair hare]

Same, except a leave a bit of space so that I can get some salt based stuff done. :)

[fair hare]

No where NEAR this. lol. Red is 29. Nullo is 3. :P

[arctic yarrow]

i think im pretty much done with salt? got everyone on godshard tools and emperor armor so just prehistorics left but id doubt i will go full prehistoric on everyone.

[fair hare]

I need red for the vial and...is it orange, for the salt lick?

[mossy anvil]

vials and saltlick

[fresh parrot]

gstack of all salts?

[simple nymph]

what’s the best way to increase my accuracy i feel so lost rn

[fair hare]

!accuracy

[arctic yarrow]

yup. all past 10m. red is in the 100m

[arctic yarrow]

vials definitely still doing that. saltlick almost done

like 8 more upgrade left using orange?

i didnt check

[simple nymph]

what do you think i should focus on first

[tranquil raptor]

Prayer

[arctic yarrow]

easiest accuracy hunting imo would be alchemy, gears and vault and po box

prayer u need to do td which u need construction

[fair hare]

I would add Amarok armor to that at the little smithy guy.

[arctic yarrow]

if they have smithy guy unlock then yes

[fair hare]

Wear it if not. lol.