#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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ye he always complains he has nothing to do and no one to talk to but he always seems to out drinking/partying/gambling
rip
93 more talent points 
soon
(and then ill get to W5 and get +85 base levels and go back to suffering once more)
I need to at least work on DB, then AC. WW is very last on my list. lol.
lmao i think i just rolled back my account by a few seconds
(i switched cards, reset a talent to puit more points into agi and then cloud saved and those actions were undon)
you should at least unlock the afk moons 
get leves e z
why is my lord of the hunt quest is still stuck at 0/1 cardboard trap collected? Already collected multiple times
What does it say on the Quest tab?

+1% eff
yea it says that 0/1 cardboard trap completed
collect*
I mean...I'm not in game right now, so could you paste that? (Even if that's all it says?) Also, some quests I have probs completing if it's not marked to show up on the Quest popup thingy. (Don't know if that is a game problem or a "me" problem.)
nm, I'll load the game, sec.
wait omg Im so dumb
💀 it says collect
I thought it was collect the trap but its just having it in your inventory
Ah yes that is a common mistake
But that questline isnt required anymore so I didnt think of it
oh does it not give the critter boost?
it does, you used to have to do it to participate in the skill
and to unlock the next critter
It still gives the boost. But you used to not be able to get to the other critters unless you went through them one by one in those quests.
Nah, I misread quests often, lol. It's why it's the first thing I ask when someone is having a problem, because the dialogs with the NPCS are pretty vague, but the Quest tab is usually (though not always) pretty specific. :)
+1 slab (5% agi trophy)
glad I don't have to now haha
the last one requiring shinies is really rough w3/4
was it?
oh wait right
Zuiq
my b
yes, shiny chance is very low
i think i had 100% shiny rate for tutel when i left for W4 lol
You spent 2 years leveling alchemy no one else did that
god i cant wait to be able to get like 300-400 bubble levels a day once i hit W5
yeahh
cuz i catch them all
3.3x at lv327
no there is also two siny vials too
sheepie and orange salt iirc
there is also psn froge which gives eagal eye bonuses
goose gives base citter count
idr if there are more tho in terms of vi8als
-# 
You must construct aditional pylons
Mine is only 7. Isn't there something that you get for having all the vials done?
the final salt 😭
im at the 5m one
Im barely div 40
the humble purg stalker 
ah fair enough i suppose
oh that resource isnt my problem
i bet you would sa ythe same about slugma ashes too wouldnty you 
+0.02x vial effect boost
I could be at 8 (500k) but I only have 1.9m, sooooo...
any mob drop actually
however it means you need 2000 ranks worth of red salt
(becasue 1m per rankup)(if we are talking pure rankup only salt gain pre panda)
Well, it does get faster and faster.
Baka entering chat to show, I am , in fact, hardstuck w1
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
yay 3rd one
also Wiz
youve made me want to boot up terraria and start a new playthough now, thanks 
Because the power per cycle goes up with each level.
if you want to co op I am willing to do that game too. V fun
yes but still
lol
Recently did a calamity playthrough
like rn or at some other point?
I mean I can rn lol im just reading
i really need to do a new solo large modded playthrough at some point
Ooo id be down
give me a few mins to make a nwe player n stuff
do you wanna host the world or should i?
and expert or mastermode?
actually i should probably switch this to DMs shouldnt i lol
someones getting excited lol
its been a while since ive played co-op teraria tbf
ive played soo much teraria tha i rarely do playthroughs of base game due to how much ive played it lol
co-op is always fun tho
nice.
Whats vip checkout exactly? Does it unlock a skill for one character? And which should I get?
I didnt even realize I unlocked it. Just saw an extra sprite sticking out of the library and thought it was a bug lol
Calamity is fking awesome
Still get goosebumps thinking back on my first time in the || abyss || biome
Uh I asked this in gen chat too but am yet to unlock smithy so should I hold back from crafting better weapons till I unlock it?
if u need damage, probably just craft it?
or the set bonus on your character
don't see any point in waiting
So will I have craft the previous weapon after unlocking smithy again?
Nvm these books are mid
Them resources are costly at magma weapons
oh u meant it like that. I don't know, sorry.
How would you craft em if you dont have em unlocked wat
Do you mean reach the lvl requirement?
Nah. The w3 smithy I meant
I am to wait another 25 days or so before I can unlock it
Ah I see I had it unlocked even tho i didnt buy gems for some reason
So should I hold back from bettering my equipment to avoid recrafting it for the set bonuses it gives?
Well if it helps your progression then yeah you should
Just make sure to keep a copy of each
Some require 1 tool and others 2 tools of a tier too
Okay yeah I should probably just craft it for my mains. Best way to go about it i think
Thanks!
You could probably microadjust it to manually keep certain sets on certain characters but tools are gonna be the annoying ones since youll have to recraft previous tiers if you go pass, and past gold they get annoying to craft
And np
Does it make sense for cogs to focus on Flaggy first so you can unlock the entire board and then afterwards to focus on Building speed?
Should I be completing Lord of the Hunt's quest on all characters to get 10% for each? Or is that only the first time you complete the quest?
I focued on exp pretty much the whole time. On that note, idk if that was right
what's your reason for focusing xp? what benefit do I have from higher level at Cogs?
You level up your guys faster so they can have higher build speed
more xp = more levels = more build rate and flaggy speed
aaaah interesting... and here I am neglecting xp ... oops
Coliseum
So i need to somehow kill 1m of those guys from coliseum only to unlock vman?
Maybe here
there's the red variant here
You don't need to
oh, thank you. I noticed he had a skull unlike the coli-only enemy from W2
frosty firefight wave 80 guide anywhere?
can i really not complete luminadi's king doot quest without people helping me?
thought it better to post in here since finding this is later in the game
I’ve never done that quest but yes, to kill king doot the first time you need two other people
that kinda sucks a bit
is there a gaming skill guide somewhere I looked and I couldn't find it hence why I am asking
For the voidwalker 12m green mush quest, can it be prefarmed?
Eh it’s not too hard to do
Not really. Gaming is really just a waiting game with a lot of luck mixed in
Just make sure you’re getting all the multis you can
I unlocked w5 two minutes ago
and saw it and click some leaves and didn't know what I did honestly lol
I mostly just wanted to know what I was supposed to do
That’s about it tbh, let your plants grow, get the imports, get to palettes, start the super bits
what do I upgrade?
Everything you can
shame i cant buy that cookie
How can i increase a talent level past 150? The bookshelf only goes up to 150
Increase the bookshelf max
and how?
can i uncombine the ribbon that i accidently combine?
There’s a lot of ways
Your biggest increase is gonna come from sailing
sailing is w5? right?
Yes
speedrunning here i come
noooo i need 12m green mush 😭
There’s quite a few sources that give you lab exp multi, I’d look it up
You’ll fly through them
What’s your current multikill
is six foods the max?
how do i layout my trappers 😭
some of them should print refinery materials https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Construction#Refinery
bruh construction?
troll set require [Nullo Salt]
are u ok?
You can still use another armor to progress the map
I am in w5 with chizor set, with DK
Hello, I'm came to the discord because I figured out that it might be the best way to find people like me that try to do the Loominadi quest (the King Doot summoning) and since I've found nobody in game, I'm reaching out here.
Of course if my 2 other mates hasn't done the quest yet either, I'll be able to play mage and archer to help them unlock too with their warrior.
You can @ me.
Have a good day. 🙂
@blissful fern Go to this https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/827796218368360459 to find party bro. It is easier when you find in this chat
yo gang what tier are the 2x villager xp purchases from gem shop?
The explore, the Bonuses, engineer, studies
Wait, Measure between engineer and studies
do i need to manually combine the cooking medals everyday? they seem to do it themselves everyday? is that the ideal way?
when to buy them
?
The explore is when you open the hole
ribbons? yes you need to
higher ribbon give higher bonuses
You can just buy only him if the other thing like W5 skill needed to buy also
and dont use high tier ribbons u get from events n shi early on
what is rift 61, its not on the wiki
nothing currently
previous 1 spice recipe was done under an hour, thats such a steep increase 
i need to increase my spice gains somehow
You don't have that many ladles hanging around?
looks like a good target to get that ladle dream for equinox done 
Do you have diamond chef bubble prisma’d yet?
oh yeah i forgot about it, thanks i'll prisma it next
Yeah that’ll explode your cooking speed
whats the best way to get load of critters? best trap and duration?
Rush to w5, get God -2x kill count for deathnote & portale + run deathnote prayer, then easy
Yes. If you want rare ones, time does not matter as the rare drop for critters is the same for all durations (at least thats what others said, don't quote me on it tho)
But by the time i get to w5, i could have this quest mostly done 
I could always spare some few characters and ise them to still kill
This could also pose a problem
Not even 1k per hour 
Btw if u rush to w5, that can gave u a refinery stamp, fast cycles 
is it a bug that mammoth task cant be add in 3d printer?
Not that i care bout refinery 
I am doing it on my ES

I'm trying to finish this quest but I've done all the quests available and I'm still missing 3?
usually people would be missing 1. maybe recheck?
then cloudsave then try to submit the quest
does anyone know why it wont let me buy the burning bad books from the gem shop? its greyed out and ive no idea why
I talked to all the NPCs and did all the quests. Yeah, it might be a cloud save thing I'll check
its a bad gemshop purchase when u have the automation arm. so id just leave it
no probs thank you
Oh he gives you the final 3 lol. Thanks for the help
Use scarf, that is huge
Checking your character and mine who is lvl 150 I'm clearly doing something wrong 
That my choping background 
if u don't mind me asking how do you have so much accuracy?
800 kills per hour in w4 in here what am I doing 
My friend suggested me to do alchemy 
ok 👍 i'm about the same stage as you bu with like 15-30k
Keep it up 
Hi, I’d like to increase my Redox Salt production but I can’t figure out how to do it. Can you help me?
Refinery cycles are reduced by; refinery stamp, omniphau, and rabking up the specific salt you’re wanting to produce
Okay thanks !!
Any friend bonuses I could steal from someone?
try to look for someone around 11k total levels. i dont know if it is fixed but i heard something abt wanting to keep the friend bonus below 12k total levels.
cog 4 coral cave guardians
How should i do my traps? Like every char farms 1 pet or is there an optimal setup
Does splicing and giving dna effect exp gain?

im not exactly in w7...
w1 town then
Every farming one and having two slots on everyone farming turtles with the yellow traps on 10 hours and collecting one with your daily and one with your trap o vision
what stage are you at trapping? what traps are equipped on people
meat traps, turtles unlocked
I just unlocked 9th character and have no clue who to go, (have 2 dk)
I suggest one more Bubo
how bout my 10th?
?
we don't know sadly 
I suggest one more Blood berserker
k thanks
3archers one beast master two the other I cant remember 3 warrior 2 dk 1 death bringer 3 mages 1 bubo 2 elemental 1 voidwalker
nah go double vman
Hell nah
real men go double vman
XDDDDDD
in that case there is no strategy for traps
just put as you need them
but i would say only 2 archers, 3 archers isnt that good
this is outdated, two Siege breaker and two elemental is garbage tier
proof : I have them, and never had to use them since I created them
biggest regret of my history
but a second bubo and second BB would be fire
Then what should I do instead of the second SB?
like extremely good progress
yea im glad i went double BB but i hate i went 2 elementals, would have prefered 2 AC
dont they get masterclass soon so it will be good?
BB being safe or you can do 2 AC
The only use the 2nd sb is for 2 min erryday claims. Thats it, now you can just do it with your ww and.
"soon" = 6-9 months
if you wanna maximize gains after 6-9 months and not now, do like that
I’m a madman who didnt touch an ac for 50 days…6-9 months isnt that bad
the alchemy you could have gotten done in that time
Im just kidding itd be too tempting
the thing is, an AC farms afk stones or Lab
yea
-# I have two its not that bad
Would i be crazy to change one of my dbs to a 3rd dk?
an AFK siege breakera and elemental sorcerer, legit
I am playing for 11 months now, and never had to hop on active on them, ever, nor I had any benefit out of them
they are just filler characters who do hole/farming mobs and not that efficiently like an AC or DB would
Should i use it on ES to make into a AC??? or wait till next masterclass
I don't reset them because I am waiting for masterclass at this point
thats what i was thinking too
but if anyone wanna create now the last characters, better to instantly do AC/DB
thats painful. could have put on a monument instead of getting just 200k statues
I mean getting 1.4 ~ ish k afk ac items seems pretty worth
you get this only when you fight AFK
if you do other things, skills or monument, you don't get stones
I have a 2nd ac anyways its fine
i guess, wouldnt it maybe have been better on gmush though instead?
Probably
I kinda just set it to gloomie because I felt like it
relatable
the insane thing is, Hole was added more than 1 year ago
and nobody changed the main idea of "character builds"
what do you mean?
second SB and ES was deleted since Hole changes
and nobody made a proper video/guide about that
SB was for smelting ores ( hole lets you smelt kinda unlimited )
ES was for god link ( Hole gives you god link )
Tbh I’m now thanking myself for NOT searching up a guide way back then and making 2 bubo’s
I kinda just candied all of it
yea i usually get 1050M ores smelted in like a 4 minute claim
Idk why they wanted to use 2 sb’s for the job. Especially when we didnt have that candy drop nerf back then
of prehistoric/godshard
i hate how im still lacking mining efficiency to afk prehistoric ore. i have to wait an hour for printer to get 1050.
So making 2 SB Is a bad idea and getting 2 blood berserkers is better, are they for fishing?
for cooking i would
and for chows wows zows
Turn off atoms for an hour so you can get more to smelt, then turn back on when you’re done
Zows?
doesnt work, they will still get atomized no mater what if they reached above 1050
Sb as of rn is just filler and doesnt really matter.
Immediate gains would be 2 db’s for afk bones and etc, but sb is just kinda future gains.
Thats how I see it tbh
and i only get like 70m perhistoric ore and hour thats what i mean
Oh gotcha
they are buffs that DB gives when killing a certain amount of each creature
One annoying thing is. If I decide to swap off my 2nd db to something else, I’d have to redo my zows 
just swap first one easy
Im such an idiot and you r so big bren
or be like me who did it with both not knowing at the time its the second one that gives the buff
First time at 4b 
i held off leveling my toons for so long i went from level 700 to 900 in a span of 40 minutes.....
is it supposed to take me 10h+ to push 1 map in w3? I'm probably doing something wrong right?

Yo yo
yo
I love yoyo’s
F2p girl mdfkr HAHAHAHA
so i personally skipped chizoar only did one set for smithy but you need to get scarf on everubody
I changed my pfp so i dont get mistaken for a girl anymore

Same
Same
This is my gear rn im almost at world 6
divine scarfs are soo good thoug
Well it's not that i'm lazy pendant just doesn't drop
Never said they werent
I'll change my gear at world 6
But switching to 10 characters to beat nightmare kruk is boring
I think my acc will still work until i unlock world 6
it takes some time but its hella worth it, and i just did it while i was grinding star signs
Changing gear at w7 trust
Im lazy asf so maybe one day
Is soon as i get bear I'll continue pushing i really dont wanna push without 2x kill
How much dr u had?
Or day one
i think at the time i only had around 70 dr
I see
I need to fix mine
i have the same dr and the pendants just don't drop 😭
yea i think i ran through around 10k keys
I got like 5 obols from troll the other day in under a few hundred keys...so...even tho my dr is laughable
im just finding out i have 7k hours minimum of time candy
What was that hole that people keep telling me to do
A lot.
I forgot its name
The hole
the hole in world 5
Or
✨ Alchemy ✨
Is that the village?
Aah okay i still feel bad i dumped all the opal sam gave me to explore
Vileijh
green stack gems when?
Question about unlocking Vman, during the last quest, can the 15m gooms kills be done before starting the quest or does it have to be after? Can I use candies to speed things?
Before & after
And yes.
Is there an optimal map to get the 25k crystal custards quest done at or no?
Probably the map w the most enemies for higher crystal chances each time
Wow
Which is?
What the? What are you doin here?
Maybe its like a w7 one, I wouldnt know
I'm evolving
Capybara is w6 custard is w4
Im so zoned out lmao

Is the beggar arc over?
Yeah
No worries lol
Playing the game arc
I genuinely dont know what map has the most enemies in w4 guh
clammies
Zamn hellish
Thanks 👍
oh damn got 811 bravery multi from doing bravery
i need to work more on monument after this. im just getting 1b kills for w7 stuff rn
stonks
my DB is going through getting his 1Bs on em currently
oh yeah do you need friend bonuses?
hopefully 1 of the 9 char doing w7 kills drops me the luckiest lad
I'm not sure what mine are, I could check, did lava fix the 12,000+ bug?
nope, I'm at 11963, so I'm sending out in case I forget at 12000
of course if I do remember I'll just send again at 12k
oh I see, probably better than what I have then
does the breedability multiplier you get from the heart pets contribute to the attack power of a newly hatched pet of the same type?
if you're on right now I could get em, doing wisdom currently
no, it just affects new pet chance
I can give you some yeah, just tell me when you're done and we'll meet at cog 4 w1 town
how can it be boosted then?
Breeding level and egg tier I believe are the primary if not only ways
can't remember if there is another
pets unlocked iirc
at a glance I thought these were the same (saw them both in a line reveal and only barely realized they were different, better than the literally duplicate icons though that sometimes crop up
yea the same color chests have gotten me a couple times
yo guys, lets say i was kinda lazy to do my plunderous mob kills, and should do it now, whats the setup?
finished up I can head over now
thanks, it is kind of amusing to see the values just barely off their 100% value
If I remember, you'll see 100% coming in soon 
yea feel free to ping me if you reach that
think I can just send right? I dunno
where is the most optimal way on getting power statues for onyx statue?
oh right beastmaster has a talent that boosts it aswell on top of the things I mentioned prior
oh probably yea, feel free to mention if not though
crystal farming at beans
oh yea Jiof have you finished funny ruby crab
nah
my rates aren't that horrible I believe, I'll just tackle this when w7 pt2 comes out because I think I'll be crafting kruk for everyone when that happens, which makes it a lot faster
also gotta stay under 12k acc level so 
ah, I just had a good chunk sitting on it afk until I reached it, don't remember where I had a rubifier from but just hadn't use some old limited shop one I guess
also just helped get characters to 1100 for legend points
yeah I afked it quite a while back, I think I 3x'ed my rates since then
how to do trapping? im js placing random traps and prays that my refinery works
is there a bug when acc lvl break 12k?
Imagine having it unlocked
To be honest, damage isn't a problem. I am at 98m damage on my ES
However, that mob respawn could work 
Ok so the yellow guys are really fun
Since I was gonna win anyways I had fun intentionally not spawning for a sec to increase this
the win nearly doubled my essnece gain too
reminds me I should get gear sometime huh
how to set up trapping help pls
whoops wasnt on the combat build
What ya got so far?
a bunch of basic traps doing scorpie for refinery
in w3 or w4+?
also are u struggling w/ base critters or shinies
w6 but im jailing my chars in divinity
both
ok so you have rift 6?
ill check but i think no
wait what character does rift the best
depends on the goal
It takes all of them.
i skipped alot of things
dont know how tf this happened
what is the best trap setups
Ok so theres basically only really 2
shinies or lazy afk
lazy afk ofc 🤑
you need rift then
basically just do 20 hr traps for that
What traps are you using?
cardboard...
There's your problem. :)
Go to silk ASAP, which I think requires a shiny. (I don't even have the game up and haven't had coffee yet, lol.) Sec.
get these atleast
yea its froge
personally I got all lads atleast this one(reminds me I need to put my 4th critter on this char lmao)
but yea silk first
Silk will help you get a couple of shinies every collection.
bruh
If you need critters fast, grind it and go every 20 minutes. That's the biggest return. Otherwise, set it for how often you're in game and will actually remember to check in, or do the rift that Stevo was talking about.
Do you have Beastmaster?
I was at 80 for forever, and then went to just over 1000 and have been stuck there for 2-3 weeks. They don't even pretend to try to go over 100 most of the time. lol.
yea I was at 1k for ~1month
then jumped to 10k and sat there for a month
(I dont have the equinox upgrade yet)
that one equinox upgrade makes it alot easier
I would only start pushing it once u get the equinox + upgrade from the whale in w7
I mean
Im only pushing it during my daily check
I think once I got both of those upgrades i went from 150k to 124m in like 2 weeks
just doing my normal gaiming claimin
I don't think I even have that task yet. lol.
Yeah its pretty chill thats fine
same
I got like 2-3 tasks first
It feels so slow without that upgrade
shame all the ones ive completed are the ones that are next
Next week we are also getting the bonus from w2 ballot where its more gold nuggets
and not current 😭 I even have the funny pickle req almost done
So you can push it further
yea its not super goal of mine yet
That's the task that uses Joebobpickle upgrade or whatever?
88/100 rn
Shoot, I've been slacking on that, so it'll take a couple of months. lol.
w/ w5 secret achievement u can buy 2/day
if ur misc stamp is good enough atleast
Thanks, I'll look! As long as it doesn't require minigames. :P
(its like lvl 20-30)
at 1/day it takes 3 odd months
w/ 2/day it takes 1.6 ish
I think I have...40 or something.
49
Not bad
half way there so itll be like 3 weeks w/ 2/day
Lemme go find that achievement and see if it's possible, lol.
Hmm
heres the other peice of the puzzle
Sec
I have that, but I don't think I've leveled it much, annnnnnd, it's another timegated thing wit hthe tape, lol.
But first things first. :P
its ONE days worth of that tape
w/ just the w5 achieve
Ahh, I have more than that in inventory, even.
finally have this
after i got to world 5 i started this it
I got mine recently too I just entered w6 at most 3 weeks ago
So where I originally planned to get it nice
i should use this pack right?
drop it
no, greenstack it
its a good thing i had doot to make things easier
ahg
yea I had div jail time
wait really damn i used the w4 pack immediately
well thats a good tip thanks frot that!
youll live its not that bad sometimes itll still count
just if u do what I said it garuntees it wont be wack for no reason
Lava's spaghetti code
lava coding :P
Yea my fault for eating some of the noodles
yea i heard that from griffy too
I know its something to do w/ the looter damage perk jank apparently
Since slab was apparently initially based on that skills tracking of items
I gtg now, cyall
gz man thanks again!
off I go till either tonight or tmrow
Have a great day :)
Holy effffff
I finally got card stamp!!!
Does cranium cooking effect sigils?
It stops progress on them, I thought. So I guess no?
And what/where/who is the fastest way to get 10k Kruk dungeon keys? <<headdesk>>
Tremor Wurms
Thanks. Off I go to Tremor Wurms.
1 in 25,000, compared to 1 in 75,000 at Biggole Moles or 1 in 50,000 at Crawlers

Thanks! Trying to do the Biggole Mole quest, so I can do a Secret quest, so I can do...I forget what, lol. That's the problem with this game, I forget what the hell I'm trying to achieve all. the. time.
Ye, you set a goal, and then go down the rabbithole of what's required to get to that goal, and by the time you know where to even start, you forgot what the end goal was lol
Story of my gamelife. lol.
That is actually a drop in W7? And here I am scraping through trying to gather lucky lads to build one. :/
I know! And it'll be like...six months before I'm in W7 at the rate I'm going.
Blue lad
I only got to world 3 recently, the last time I have played was several years ago, and I had some progress on world 2. Now all my characters have a crap ton of bought permanent upgrades from the coins I made from literally years of idle time and I really don't know where to go from here
Damage against monsters is literally maxed out
yet my main character who was mining is still only level 50 while my highest is level 106 or something
How do you get the luckiest lad?
Oh here?
are there worship guides cuz this skill is lame af, i just want a setup
drop it in w7
Okay thanks
I'm so far away from that crab
u can drop it on any map iirc
Any monster?
ye,any w7 monster
on alchemy - should i keep using liquids ripping upgrades or should i start investing liquids into bubbles?
Oh okay thanks
There are some in the main guide spreadsheet, though it depends on what towers you have unlocked, and how high your tower levels are. I mostly watched some videos, and just started winging it, though I suspect I'll go back to the guide sheet when I'm trying to get high numbers.
if i im leveling up shiny gmush, does having multiple of them help, do i have to have different colors of them?
what traps should i use and which critters and cards should i use. im lazy and i have this
20 hours for lazy, lol, but it's not a great return. It's hard to give an opinion on critters without knowing what you need. So far as cards go, gimme a sec.
if im doing lazy 20h traps do i need to snapshot with maestro or bm?
Get to rift 16 if you're not. Get everyone to L50 trapping. (You can do it with divinity gems/balloons.) Makes the cards passive.
(It actually only takes all 10 chars at 30 average to make the cards passive.)
damn i js sold all of my bloons 🥀
I've been told always BM for collecting traps, but I didn't have Maestro at the time. lol.
You want balloons, because they work past 50, lol. Don't sell those, lol. Do you have divinity pearls?
i sold the balloons cuz i need storage space and i dont have money or gems to get more, also they give barely any exp tbh
ANY XP is better than no XP for some skills, lol.
i also sold my 300 of my black pearls and divinity pearls
i only have the white one left
well im in a pickle
OK, well...lol. I guess wait until you get some more? 🤣
Assuming you have the level-up gifts bubble, do you have that equipped on your characters? Or do you have Sheepie?
i have sheepie
That's good, so as long as you have level-up gifts, you'll be generating more.
more what?
(Selling those is a losing proposition anyway, because the game just keeps giving 'em too you.)

Balloons and divinity pearls. You really really want those, esp. when W1/2/3 skills are under 50.
ig ill js drain my water for balloons
Nah, lol. And that's so few it's not really gonna help a lot.
Do you have the level up gift bubble?
im now depressed to know ive sold 20 large balloons which i got from dreadlo arcade
Pearls are better under 50. I think it takes 5 of them to add two levels or something.
but my chars are so far in now i cant get anything from level up gift
If you have sheepie it doesn't matter. All big bubbles are always equipped for all characters.
It gives them to you for skills, too, lol. How high are their class levels?
Do you use IT? I rarely use IE, so not very familiar with the interface.
i use all of the websites 😩
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lol. I have tab groups in Chrome:
lol
i have a google drive of all the sheets ive made a copy and a bunch of checklists
Awww, all those skills you could have leveled with balloons and pearls. :(
also damn i think ive been sleeping on IT cuz ive been using it js for the item planner
Have you gotten to rift 16 yet?
Haha, I have a bunch of my own in Excel. :)
doesnt the IT link shows that (i havent reached rift 16)
Why that fck tree gives so shitty quests to get frost prince
I'm just looking at characters right now, lol. I'm trying to play my own game at the same time. So yes or no from you would be quicker, lol.
i've reached W6, is mining starfire still supposed to be really painful?
this is my main miner
im in w6 and i dont know what is lustre and starfire 
Need a lot more efficiency.
Doesn't need to be that high, but 2.67M is kinda low.
Bro lvl up ur miner so u can get more talent points to put on STR and efficiency talents
My Alchemy is so so so so so so low that I never show anyone my IT page. I'm working on it, though.
i dont want to see your IT page
just get this bubble up a bit, then other max 300% comes from hole iirc
I just meant that I am so far away from that it's unreal. But I'll start working on that one more.
dude thats 1st page literally
i've hit the cap on most of my str talents, fists only has a little more
its 4th bubble
probably meant so far away from the efficiency number. which i'm like yeah that's insane lmao
Put points on that tested garb
Yeah, I have 3 bubbles over 1k, and I think 5 over 100. Gonna take a while. Wyoming Blood is 52. :)
ouch i think my highest bubble is like 50
yes and u dont need it to be 1k levels deep coz it has cap
Missing out on Tested garb, Firmly grasp, and also haungry for gold
yeah i keep forgetting to make more of the blue one
Those help me when taking samples, FYI. And the peanut helps with mining. (I don't think you can get those lavender pearls right now. I got those in Summer Event, and I only use them for sampling, one at a time, lol.
If u can one shot any mob from w6 on that char, using like 4h worth of candy would give u decent talent points from leveling up
i haven't even unlocked the W6 maps i'm dealing with this sneaking bullshit lol
Are you using the Big Pick talent? That can help a bit as well. And do you have Skill Mastery?
Just don’t dump all ur candy to afk fighting, there are better uses for candies
yes and no
Skill Mastery helps a ton.
Quick question.
Friend got to world 4 and apparently "misused" his ladels and can't complete the quest for the rhubarb guy.
AFK in the kitchens?
He says he completed two new recipies and it didn't... hmm... I wonder if he's logging in a character that DOESN'T have the quest... or does it update account wide?
Oh right. I forgot you don't need to be a BB to get ladels. -.-
Thanks!
It gets manageable (you can pull enough people out of it) fairly quickly. After that it'll be Div prison for a while, then back to Lab prison.
Ive got everyone sat in lab atm apart from my main character haha
That's exactly the way to do it. :)
can finally make the 2nd tier of cogs for construction aswell which is nice progressing slowly but surely
And make sure Bubo is either far left or far right in the lab, depending on which boost you want. (Or in the middle if ya wanna split it, I guess.)
Not sure what you mean tbh
Bubonic Conjurer (or whatever is actual name is) has a talent that gives everyone longer lines OR gives them extra XP, depending on whether they are to his right or left in the lab.
ohh, i've not unlocked that class yet
I only just got to W4 so slowly figuring it out
He's the lab guy. :)
Guessing that's shamans next tier right
Yep
can anyone help me with the snake quest lure real quick?
Im still trying to wrap my head around alchemy tbh im so confused by it
and not sure what my goal really is lmao
Mine is pretty weak because I ignored it for so long, lol. Using IE Autoreview kinda got me off my butt for that, I just worked on the bubbles it told me to (at first).
IE autoreview how can i find that?
past few days ive just been sat here doing a megafeather now and again
ive been neglecting my orion abit so im trying to catch up on that
When I started this game I got TOTALLY sucked into Orion and Poppy, way too much time there. I was almost playing them actively. lol.
yea i want to get all the megafeathers so get these passives up
i heard its like the 10th one or something
Yeah, but don't do what I did and make it 75% of your game time or anything. There are better boosts out there, and as long as you're checking him periodically, it'll get done.
(It's a feature, not a lifestyle 🤣 . I just have always liked that type of Idle game. :) )
yea when i mega reset i kinda forget about it for a few resets
After you get to 10, you just do 10 over and over again, for longer and longer times.
what about catching, i'm having a terrible time with this one too
basically all the tab 5 requirements are kicking my butt
then after the 3rd reset i just sit there an finish it off as its pretty quick after 2-3 resets to get to the feather
Are you running the prayer that increases efficiency? What net for catching do you have? And same thing, you absolutely wanna get Skill Mastery.
Also, in the Wiki there's a list of stuff that helps. (Keep in mind that if you get Skill Mastery to 300 for catching, you don't need to equip the cards.) https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Catching#Bonuses
i have the prayer on (mining guy too) and void net now
Did you just upgrade to the Void net? (That should help, if so.) What does your AFK popup look like?
get 8th green bubble higher and equip it on that char
Also, do you have Maestro?
when looking at this what do you focus on as theres so much im abit lost lmao
And there are stamps and statues, too.
i have the pet that gives all bubbles thank god
Well, I pointed that out to you because you were having problems with alchemy. So search for Alchemy or Bubbles (using the magnifying glass at the top).
ok so just pump this bubble
ahhh i see the bubble section gotcha
and if u need mats from skilling just print them instead of afking them
nah i've had the void net for a while. might make the lustre one but idk if 4% extra will get much
yep
how is your multitool stamp looking like
oh i dont have that one

lol not gonna get it for a while jesus, lv50 divinity
You should definitely get that

just put somebody on div and forget about it
for 1 month
Does Maestro have the all of the highest skills?
nowhere close lol that would take a while yeah?
70+ catching or mining, in this case
Divinity pearls, balloons and candy are your friends for maestro skills, lol. There are actually only six skills you need to worry about, so not too terrible.
Mining, Choppin, Fishing, Catching, Worship, Trapping.
(I've only had Maestro/Vman for a couple of weeks, myself, and it only took a day for 5 of 6 skills, and I got Worship highest a couple of days later.)
i have a bunch of pearls and balloons, i'll have to try that
i've been working on the damn vman death note kills for what feels like weeksk
lol, I have kind of neglected him. I did the speed run once. Need to do that again. :)
To use pearls and balloons for trapping (use pearls first, they have level limits), go to a critter map and use them there. I used Turtles because they're highest, but I have no idea if that helps.
my game is lagging a bit...
And for worship, and just bumped his skull up as high as it could go and used the little sould dispenser in W3, so that was pretty quick.
lmao. I keep oranges slices turned off.
are they useful for anything
ive been collecting as much of every mob drop but like lowkey are all of them even useful
Not sure, but if I need 'em, I can print them faster than collecting them?
im to lazy to print stuff out every time
So stamps and vial, yep, usefull.
Haha, OK? It'll take longer to collect so not sure that's being lazy, but everyone plays their own way. :)
well 3d print is technically slower no matter what unless u get it to print over 100%
Yeah, that's pretty easy. :)
mine is prob somewhere around 70%
Sec, lemme sample an orange and I'll show you.
i just got blood berserker but only have 2.1k acc, is there any way to get this stat up very fast? i make 10M hits, also i only got platin armor
!accuracy
where/how do you unlock meals past lvl30?
There might be other ways, I just grabbed that from the Wiki.
how do I look at the other 2 bundles?
I don't think that is even a new bundle. Unfortunately, with a few exceptions like the Christmas Pets, you have to buy a bundle to see another bundle; otherwise just wait for them to reset to something else.
And I have no idea what other bundle it would show you (new, old, random?) if you DID buy it. :/
well there are unlock bundles
sad i blew all my balloons and pearls and only got my maestro to 42 catching LMAO only 20 levels to go
so its prob like another bundle for hitting a milestone
I'm not sure what he is considering a new bundle, because ancient echoes has been on the list, I think. When I get a new class it offers me a new one, other than that, I just wait. I first saw the "Three new bundles" graphic when he did W7 (so...squirrel, pig and something else.) Then it came up again for Christmas. You can still see the Christmas bundles by clicking on the Christmas candles, even though the event is over.
the christmas bundles werent counted in the codex btw
you could only access them manually and they didnt count towards the bundles available count
After the 3 bundles (W7), mine changed to 2 bundles (I think, might have been 1) for a little bit, then went back up to 3 when Christmas launched. So that would mean there were 6 new bundles at Christmas? Wow. lol.
I mean some of those werent just from christmas I beleive
Ohh, Bubba was another bundle, after the W7 bundles.
there was like 2-3 bundles in the codex that I saw were from christmas (yes I spent to much money)
I'd spend more money if I could pick and choose, lo)
these were the new packs

id prolly buy the pig bundle just for the gems and pet crystals
you buy them
I didnt even get the option for the pig bundle 💔
personal opinion. some of the robe/wing bundles are very good purchase
I loved Deathbringer
corsair might be the best just because of how much u gain from a 20$ pack
I used to mainly go for packs with lots of pet gems, but then I got Doot (on 22nd try or something - does that include free tries? dunno), and so the pet gems went way down in importance to me. Now it's the droprate ones that catch my eye.
Yeah, I should have gotten that.
pet gems are just a bonus for value rn for me. just incase new pet rotation drops. i wanna get those day 1 trades
but yeah same case. dr is what i also aim for
I'm not 100% sure what I've spent, but not that much for 8+ months. 4-5 bundles plus Ram and autocollect I think?
the packs im missing rn 
I figured it out a while back and it was like...40 cents a day or something.
i definitely overspent lmao. ive only been back to the game like 7 months?
and i have 33 packs
I used to spend in games like that because I had tons of disposable income. But now I'm retired so...not so much. lol.
yeah i can spend money in this game only because i got burnout by one of the gacha i play. burnt out by playstyle, dev greediness and etc.
Oh, I despise gacha games, lol. I mostly ignore that stuff. I figure with these packs, I need the regular gems, and so the pet gacha is just a bonus (though I'll still look at that when buying a pack, ofc.)
yeah thats fair lol. gacha games definitely not for everyone. i do have some gacha where im pure f2p. came for "plot" stayed for the actual plot

is there a calculator for auto refine ranks according to the redox rank? 
scoli should be able to give u that
yup went to check and it give u the max rank without running deficit
There are screenshots of the first 20-40 ranks? But they vary. There's a screenie that shows how to choose by just looking. The problem I have with calculators is it depends on how much of a particular salt I need to KEEP that definies how often I level.
I find IT kinda useful for what's coming in and how messed up the next level is going to be. lol.
!refinery
The refinery will produce salts on a cycle as long as you have the required materials in your chest when the timer hits 0. In order to increase the rank of a salt in the refinery, you have to let your power bar for the salt completely fill before refining.
I'm at 115 redox tho
checked IT and see the insufficient productions marked red, very convenient 
Not sure, though Morojo is pretty good about adding stuff. :) (And the ratios would be the same because it's doing all salts at the same time.)
ah i see. very nice then
You make them :)
check ur anvil 
I don't have theme in my anvil
ah right. so they are just 
Thanks I just need to craft my copper chest plate
And pants to unlock theme
I just clicked on the ?
bruh I kicked the stacked balls and accidentally left the map 
Awww, they'll come back over time. lol.
time to see how much of a boost in dr ill get
Your drop rate is already almost 20x mine. lol.
And now I hate you. 🤣
full dr setup with robe and all. so yeah huge jump from 0 dr setup on my deathbringer
I am months away from W7, I think.
i need more dmg to get another 2 nametag
this is the w7 speedrun nametag
huge dr multi
we all start low
i was around ur dr when i was seeing people already hitting 1k dr before the dr packs & w7
they all prolly around 3-4k dr now
All the W7 stuff is out of reach for a while, though. :/ I'm working on it! (I'm on the Ceramic whatevers, taking a longggggg time, and pretty sure I don't have enough Candy to get through to emperor, so I stopped for a bit and am kind shoring up my basics. :) )
atleast u got to ceramics before hitting the wall. i was at leeks when i finally decided to bactrack and do everything i skipped like sailing and stuff.
no point of me rushing back then cus w7 was still far in the future
like real far, 4 month prior to w7 
spent the entire time fixing my foundations like construction and all that
doing mc stuff got most of them to w4
Well, at least I could candy, and the portals that require multiple chars were reduced in number of characters. But still. lol.
being able to candy w6 definitely better but doesnt help much when ur kph is non existent 
Yeah
thats why im getting 1b kills on all current w7 mobs, should help abit when expansion comes

Bubo (highest damage, not necessarily highest kph) is on Leeks at 400k per hour. DK's KPH on Ceramic is 129k, though sometimes I boost him for certain things with Bubo's gear.
I need to take a look at Deathnote for W6. may be some low hanging fruit there.
Eh, not really. All but one map needs 100m to go up in Death Note. :P
deathnote definitely a huge help to getting more kph. so dont forget to buy skulljoepickle and killing those miniboss with it in ur inventory. miniboss kills give buff to all world mk
I keep forgetting that one, so I think I've only bought him twice. lol.
i know some people abuse active db to kill glunko and get it to hit those thousand and million kills lol
And is that character inventory, or in the chest?
char inventory
Glunko is only like...once an hour though, yeah?
Ahh. Then the two that I have (two I think?) are doing absolutely nothing for me. 🤣
i always do minibos run with my dk since he always has my dr stuff(statue/gfood farming) so i just keep all my pickles on him
yo can anyone help me with thte player ratings quest?
Do the regular pickles do something?!?! I just keep those in the chest inventory (though I know I'm gonna need 100 of them for Equinox, and I only have 49. :( )
they dont. i just like having them there 
Hahaha, fair enough!
And never have been lucky enough for this one:
this will take a couple of minutes 
still no jackpot 
no void?
and slow roast?
I could swear I won a jackpot very early, but it's not showing on Tome (which of course I got much later, lol)
ah true. that was one of the cloud
what jackpot are you guys talkin about?
the arcade balls jackpot
statue bonus is getting expensive chat
Takes more than a day of active to buy an upgrade
I'm still working on Onyx. lmao, I suck so bad at this game! 🤣
ITs fine everyone moves at their own pace
I must be doing something wrong because at some point during the run the eyeballs push the mobs so far back that my boulder rollers can't hit
Too easily distracted, I think. :)
gary started like a week after I did and he passed me up
How do I remove the royal sampler prayer?
prolly just slightly out of the circle of atk
remove all sample on the char
ye gotta set up so they are neear a corner usually
I've seen people here for like...a month who are way further than me after 8. Though $$ may be involved. :)
They keep the boss JUST outside the range
yea ive done that, you can just sell the far one and replace it near it
yeah the eyes just do that even if u have 1 tower
oh, i forgot you can do that
yeah that did it
ive done that basically 
Oh samples are the ones on the left, correct?
If you haven't bought extra slots, yeah, they'd be on the left. :)
im assuming u dont have all sample slot unlock so yes. on the left
Didn't work. Still on
Oh I see I got it
It's remove everything
Like the samples AND what you're printing
Is Large Pohayoh still worth ribboning at this point? I'm just running endless summoning I have all the base battles done.
and the first like 2 or 3 levels of each boss summoning stone done
I would not waste a ribbon on that myself
Word, I was on the fence I just saw in this guide it recommended it. I'll skip it
and I put ribbons on some pretty stupid stuff
oh brother lemme show u some of mine i did early on
eyyy congrats!
got this absolute banger
I was just tilted I wasnt hitting minimum travel time to last island before w7
gib
i need more sialing speed lmao
how else are you to max vault 
lol ye salad is not great
anotha 1
You ahve no sailing speed
I love my coin gains
you dont sail zui
but i do tho
i have a T7 on lv 30 popcorn
This is not affected by multikill right?
its true mob kills
I actually dont know but I doubt multikill works
which is a 1 for 1 ratio for kill per mob death
@spark brook What's the best map for a DK to farm crystal mobs in W4?
affected by ur kph. so kinda?
True mob? so mobs spawned by skills dont count?
there is a few things like that
more mk = more kph
ehhhh
its like orb kills
or portal kills
Soda cans is my guess
MK dont make the number shoot up way faster, its always a 1 to 1 increase per kill ratio per mob
i meant the cd reduction, so if 1 kill counts as 5, I have 5 chances at reducing my cd by 3s instead of just 1
no as in mobs you can see not added kills from stuff like kill per kill
not clammies?
W4 is broken into different sections for different statues iirc. I'd probably do clammies for pearler shells though either way
ah, gotcha, thanks
no idea sodas is just my go-to for anything lmao
Man killing 25k crystal custards sucks
true mob kills
not kills of true mobs lol
more like true kills
you can only truely kill something once (unless you bring them back to life but thats a whole nother can of worms)
imagine doing that on vman 
oh true ig
if ytou have enough in megam onger and daggerange it is better then clammies
what i mean is if ur claiming afk, it should count ur kills there. so thats why i said it kinda
Is there a known base level for various card odds (that's on a web page or something, if it varies by mob?)
it specifically says active ki lls only
thyis isnt smeltin everyday talent
wiki
no?
Its on their wiki pages
it says all beastmaster kills
ok my bad it doesnt say active but i am 99% suyre it is active only kills
There's a chart for what mob to farm for statues in each world with what class, some mobs have statues in their base card and not a loot bag so it makes a difference. Let me try to hunt it down.

becasue otherwise i could candy spam my WW and finish breeding now
Awesome, thank you. Never noticed it there!
Hellish
ah maybe in the talent description? not the extra u get from vman bonus
Also wild getting pinged in this chann I have never chatted here before. 
very fun. i had to do it. thank god for w7 crystal mob spam
we getting back up there chat
We need to vote for that monument multi next time
Best haul so far
if i could candy WW
trust me
i would
Holy, I usually do mine once it hits like 2.5x lol is it better to wait?
i wouldnt go through this hellish grind
No I just hate justics
omniphau my beloved 
im almost there though 
But I think laval realised everyone hates justice and added a huge multi for the slackers to be able to use and not fall as far behind
hello
early monu yes. once u get a decent amount of hours on monum u want bigger bonus




