midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[pseudo flicker]

You farm those with your ES

Since wormhole mobs CAN drop those with the increased DR

[wild bane]

should i be trying to get blue tier cards across the board?

or just specific ones

[pseudo flicker]

Don’t focus too hard on card farming for now

[dry kayak]

All skilling ones eventually become passive but eventually your DR will be so high you can farm all the cards you need in a matter of hours

[wild bane]

i know pushing to 5 and unlocking hidden class is my main goal right now, then i can go back and fill out a bunch of stuff

[pseudo flicker]

Yup

[wild bane]

or thats what the guide says to do

[dry kayak]

Unlocking the vman is really good

[sinful gale]

is there a way to get more coloseum tickets?

[dry kayak]

Time

[wild bane]

did you do the colisseum quest on every character

[hoary pebble]

have you bought the vault upgrade for double tickets yet

[pseudo flicker]

!autoreview

[wild bane]

how important is gear at W4 newb stage?

should i just make suits of the W1 boss gear

for all my toons

[hoary pebble]

Amarok until w5 is perfectly fine, you can consider dementia and beyond from there.

[wild bane]

alrighty - thanks for the tips

[hoary pebble]

you can recraft amarok to apply better upgrade stones as well

[dry kayak]

The armor set bonuses from W3 are really nice though btw

[pseudo flicker]

!review

[candid scarab]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[dry kayak]

so dont forget to do those

[sinful gale]

yup

[pseudo flicker]

This can help track your progress

[wild bane]

i think i already had the W4 stones by the time i made my first amarok suit lmao

im way behind on my smithing

i just unlocked the Efaunt suit completely, but i cant craft any of it yet

[hoary pebble]

I only moved to dementia mid w5 and this was befor vault trivialized early pushing. You'll be more than fine with just amarok and if you've done the bare minimum alchemy

[sinful gale]

do i have to talk to the coluseum guy on all my chars?

[wild bane]

you should yes

if you like tickets

[fair hare]

I hardly ever use the stones, and I should. Maybe once I get armor I am going to keep for a while.

[sinful gale]

i mean to claim one each day like i have to talk to one by one?

[wild bane]

i hear its best to have another toon upgrade a toon's gear because they get different stats or something

[pseudo flicker]

That’s if you need accuracy

[wild bane]

oh thats only for acc?

[fair hare]

You'll eventually get an interface where you can collect in the Codex. But It's not like you get tickets for each person.

[pseudo flicker]

For example, wisdom gives accuracy to warriors, so you want to upgrade a set of gear on your mage to put wisdom on the gear

Which you then equip on your warrior for a small boost to accuracy

[sinful gale]

so one each coluseum?

[fair hare]

Sec.

(Been a long time, checking something.)

[fair hare]

Make sure you do the Upgrade Vault item for that. But a lot of my guys have done various colosseums, and the tickets seem to be on a per col, not per char, basis. You don't get tickets for W4-6, and they take more.

I think I get 6 a day (when I remember to collect 🤣 ) but can't swear to that.

[sinful gale]

coz so far i get one from world 1 as far as i remember

i can also collect world 3 in codex

[fair hare]

If you do the quests for W2/W3, you'll get tickets from those, as well.

[hollow bane]

yea hahah

should i try to sandcastle farm my fisher so i can get gooder bloaches

[pseudo flicker]

Try to get a better fishing rod, equip Rex rings (from the party dungeon shop), get higher talent levels, get a higher score in the fishing mini game

[fair hare]

But, for example, W4 col takes 6 tickets, W5 col takes 10, and W6 takes 30, and they don't have a guy giving you tickets. So you'll have to manage as you advance. (I basically only do W6 for a quest. :P)

[strange hollow]

how come the starsign interface isnt showing in my codex?

[fair hare]

He took it out to make room for other stuff. Gotta go there. :/

[strange hollow]

damn

[mystic vigil]

lava really needs to rework quickref

as he keeps adding things to the game I don't think replacing shit randomly is sustainable

[fair hare]

Question - do you find the Gingerbread name tag to be worth blowing gems on? I'm trying to decide if I want to spend 1200 gems to get the gingerbread name tag, get the package that includes free turns, or just skip it. (I've only bought a few packages, mostly with gear/acct-wide boosts rather than pets, and I'm not sure 3x Owl/Poppy is really worth the price of that package.)

[mystic vigil]

nahhh not worth it

well MAYBE if it's your guaranteed

but anything after that not worth it

[fair hare]

I get it to a certain extent, because once you get infinite star signs you're swapping a lot less. But I have so many of those still locked, and if you're working on those not having it in Quick Ref is annoying. I wish there was like...a check list of stuff, and you could choose the ones that you want to show.

[fair hare]

If I buy 5, that's the guarantee one.

[cyan stream]

whats a good 4 pet arena team for the equinox unlock

[fair hare]

Though...maybe I need 6. Does it end just as the Day switches to Dec 31st, or do we have all day December 31st?

[fair hare]

Seach for 4 pet equinox; there's a graphic.

[mystic vigil]

only lava knows 🤷‍♂️ maybe after your daily reset

[fair hare]

I'd hate to spend the 1200, and miss it by 1. lol. It says "Jackpot Guaranteed in 5 tries!", soooo....lol.

[fair hare]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[strange hollow]

https://idleontoolbox.com/tools/builds?b=7&c=squire which build should i be using on the squire to push to elite?

[fair hare]

I think I just followed the guide/spreadsheet initially, then customized from there.

Some of the ones on IT assume you have higher talents. The normal Idleon guide just kinda tells you which talents to focus on, in what order.

[sinful gale]

wth is this cabbage recipe

[fair hare]

A very happy happy recipe once you get it. lol, (Some of mine say millions of days. lol.) Do you have Berserker/overflowing ladle?

[sinful gale]

i have but its barely levelled

[fair hare]

You'll want to level with that, plus boost it with the library. Also, the Wiki has some recipes that might save you time.

[sinful gale]

i didnt even consider that used 22 ladles xD

i really shouldnt be rushing coz this is my 4th day but i really wanna see what there is in world 5

[fair hare]

I...kinda can't help. lol. Everything that I would tell you would assume you'd started upgrading kitchens and stuff. If you're only on day 4, you need to keep some people in the lab for a while.

Part of what W5 does is divinity, which is a lot like Lab in that people need to just...sit there, to advance lol.

How many people do you have in the lab right now/how many things lit up?

[sinful gale]

i can reach the 2x kill with 6 chars

thats how far i have

so this is 6

[fair hare]

Someone posted a W1-6 in a week guide a little earlier today. Or someone else can probably help you with this? 'Cause lab is a PIA, and to add divinity too that when lab isn't advanced...I don't know how people do the straight to W6 stuff. lol.

[sinful gale]

im having more of a candy problem

so far this is my stats

[fair hare]

Check out the portal requirements, and remember that besides the numbers going up, the monsters are a LOT stronger. https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Portal_Requirements

I did candy through a bunch of 5 (because I'd been playing for a while and had the candy).

[sinful gale]

god the portal requirements are atrocious

[fair hare]

W6 feels insane, lol. I'm still not too the end of it. Some of them multiple people have to complete to get through.

[sinful gale]

i really dont want to do crystal island with my trash bb

i heard i can catch up my levels in world 5 i think

[fair hare]

Once you have DK especially (and his fishing is high enough) it's good for Candy :)

[pseudo flicker]

#1416496957865721997 message it be this guide

[fair hare]

Yep, and I think you posted it before. :)

[sinful gale]

i used my dk for mining and blood barb for fishing

[fair hare]

But DK has better drop rates than BB, and DK can't get to crystal island unless he can reach the boat.

[sinful gale]

i see

still i need candy to push through portal req xD

[fair hare]

Eventually, everyone is kinda gonna know all the skills, lol.

[sinful gale]

yeah if only i had a decent pet like a sheepie it wont be annoying micro managing alchemy bubbles

[pseudo flicker]

Check #trade-discussion regularly, people give sheepies away all the time (and other pets)

[sinful gale]

oh fr?

[fair hare]

A few days ago, they were having problems finding people to give sheepies TO 🤣

[sinful gale]

this community is amazing i got one immediately

[autumn pulsar]

any tips?

[tardy path]

any tips on how to do the kill all mobs before they respawn rift challenge?? they almost respawn instantly after i kill them lol

[pseudo flicker]

On which character?

[honest cradle]

Man does palette get any more useless

[molten sundial]

guys so my daily reset time is around 3:40 am and I want it to come to 2 am or early how do I use the silver watches, right side or left side I don't wanna mess this up

[tardy path]

i need to do it on 3 chars i've tried db and windwalker yet

[sinful gale]

just do no bubble left behind

[pseudo flicker]

Make sure to turn off their respawn mechanic, and don’t do auto combat

Just wait until the skill times out

[molten sundial]

just go to any dungeon then go back to rift and kill them manually without activating the auto respawn ability

[molten sundial]

you can jus go to any dungeon map and go back

[tardy path]

i already did that but when i kill but they respawn so fast lol

[pseudo flicker]

That works too

[tardy path]

literally 3 seconds after i kill them

[pseudo flicker]

And you’re sure you don’t have any respawn abilities working?

[molten sundial]

then do something else and increase damage first?

[tardy path]

theyre all oneshot

its just that theyre too many

[molten sundial]

alr hear me out start from the bottom floor then proceed upwards

[wind hatch]

big tip just dont use the respawn ability

[molten sundial]

which rift ya on?

[fair hare]

Go to the Bot Channel and type !merit4

[tardy path]

yeah i hope so, maybe i dont know about some abilities secretly decreasing respawn lol

[tardy path]

14

[molten sundial]

just do it on your bubo or ac then on dk then es

[fair hare]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/596275211872108544 Then type !merit4

[tardy path]

alr i'll try thanks

[wind hatch]

just disable the respawn ability and its easy

[tardy path]

Ahh i did it, with the mage classes it was easy

[sinful gale]

sheepie is such a game changer

thank god whales are kind

[fair hare]

The biggest one for me so far has been Doot. I don't spend a lot, but I do a little? Doot literally completely changed my game. Fingers crossed that you get lucky during the weekly free pet. I got mine a few days before Lava took Fallen Spirits off the pet list, too, so I traded it for Jocund, giving me a complete set of those pets.

[ashen steppe]

No bubble left behind and egg capacity ig. Also 1 point into the spice thingy

[earnest geode]

I got a question I've been wondering about for some time, but haven't really seen in any guide. Probably because it's not worth the effort, but nevertheless...

I'm trying to get my upgrades in breeding, and I've noticed I'm not getting a lot of grey DNA stuff when I destroy an egg.. Is there some way I may have overlooked to get this up? Or will it always be slow as hell..

I think I was getting like roughly 800 DNA a minute when I was testing it earlier, but considering some upgrades will take 10-20m grey DNA... yeah......

[fair hare]

That'll help a tiny bit?

[earnest geode]

I completely forgot about that lol, but considering I have my gavel at QQ level, this won't be a huge impact for me haha 😛

gravel even*

[fair hare]

lmao - nope.

[pseudo flicker]

Eventually you get an upgrade in breeding that boosts the amount of eggs you get, so you can constantly trash over and over to get more grey genes

[obtuse thistle]

do you see which bubbles No Bubble Left Behind upgrades?

[earnest geode]

Yeah that's pretty much what I've been doing, I got like 50k eggs or so lying aroundthat I could turn into omelets, but its such a tedious task @pseudo flicker haha

I guess I just either have to suck it up or completely ignore... It doesnt really give game shattering upgrades anyway, I was merely asking for completionist sake haha

[pseudo flicker]

Yea it’s kinda just slow

[earnest geode]

Well.. If im not mistaken Lava said something about W6 having bits and pieces of all the worlds, and so far he hasnt really touched up on breeding really, besides the new territory, but that was more for cooking. So my guess is/I'm hoping he might add new shinies etc, and that would/could make it a decent investment to do

but then again... tedious lol

[sinful gale]

Damn idk how im gonna do it but im gonna catch up even with my f2p ass hahaha

[mossy anvil]

new dig

[woeful karma]

this is massive lmao
it goes from like 1-4 dead dna to like 1-12 or something lmao
and only gets better the more gravel you have

[woeful karma]

no
but IT will tell you which ones should be next
it levels the lowest bubbles up to 1500

however unlike lithium NBLB it only covers the first 3 sets of bubbles iirc

[fair hare]

He said he's already up to QQ in gravel, though, so not a big impact.

[woeful karma]

that is a massive impact compared to the base default 1-4 lol

[fair hare]

Yeppers :)

[woeful karma]

i know this very well
:D
please help me i am suffer

[fair hare]

If it's up to 1500, at the rate I'm going, I have a couple of YEARS of NBLB coming up. I think I'm getting six altogether or something. lol.

[woeful karma]

tbf
this is very optionalit serves no purpose really past the first few levels

breeding exp is expensive but not really needed because its is such a small source
it does help tho ig

paint bucket is kinda shit anyways too like overwhealmed golden egg
it surves no purpose past the firest few levels

this afaik is more so lack of meal then lack of gray/dead dna

[fair hare]

I have 1 point on that (and the ones after aren't open), but I have almost no points on anything, soooo...lol.

[woeful karma]

the only two really useful sinks of dead dna that would be an annoying grind would be these two

the rest give no benefit afaik due to being able to easily finish breeding without leveling them much

(i can say this because aside from shiny levels and breedability levels ive finished breeding. all thats left is higher pet power for better foraging, and W6 and W7 spices areas once i reach W6 and W7 respectively but that is a couple of years away)

[woeful karma]

but yeah thgeese two are kinda annoying in terms of sinks for breeding

[fair hare]

You can tell how easy I find breeding. I need to stop ignoring it, lol.

[woeful karma]

for shame.

oh my god i just saw this too

[fair hare]

Space for shiny pets. At least it is a cheap one. :)

[woeful karma]

even worse that you have yet to max it

[honest cradle]

fun game much gamba

[woeful karma]

also good for raising overall breedability levels too (WW crint%)

[fair hare]

Some day. lol.

[woeful karma]

sadly you cant get more then 1

[honest cradle]

zui cheater

[fair hare]

I tried WW, couldn't get anywhere, so am skipping it right now. Swoldier suggested I start with DB, I think.

[woeful karma]

i wanted to get 5 in advance so i can use them in like 3 years kek

[woeful karma]

D:

[woeful karma]

DB is easier to get into and overall better afaik

[fair hare]

Makes you wonder why he gives you so many of them, then, since you get a free one after 90 tries.

[woeful karma]

its just i have no access to AC or DB

[woeful karma]

because you get 1 drop a day

[fair hare]

I know! It's always fun seeing your stats!

[steel blaze]

are towers in this range as long as ANY part of the tower is inside?

[woeful karma]

just like the candles

the aniversery christmass ones thingys

[honest cradle]

hitboxes are fucky in this game who knows

[fair hare]

I know, but I have many more than 90, and they won't work after 90, so what is the point? 🤣

[woeful karma]

hitboxes for towers are jank as fuck
i would not trust them unless they are fully insidfe.

[woeful karma]

Gstacking :D

[steel blaze]

euuugh not another good place for a party ;w;

[fair hare]

One try, definitely not one drop.

[woeful karma]

but you get 1/d but its effected by DR

if you dont have the candel in your inv

or something like that

[hollow light]

how do i boost my windwalker dmg to a good amount i do 38 k and the boss i have to fight has 19 bilion the normal dmg upgrades do literally nothing

[honest cradle]

look at IT

[mossy anvil]

get better wp on bow

[honest cradle]

It has a calculator for all the master classes

[fair hare]

I have 795 in my chest right now, and I think most of my characters have some as well. So it's not keeping track of what you actually need, gotta say. :P

[woeful karma]

this is from last event

[woeful karma]

you can drop em from samurai guardians now

[honest cradle]

thats atually a normal drop now in w6

[hollow light]

i use idleon toolbox it keeps telling me to upgrade dmg I

[hollow light]

maybe i should grind some medalions i have only 2 and they give a lot dmg%

[honest cradle]

then I would do that, but if your weapon or your rings are bad you can also work on that like dead said

[hollow light]

i use attack speed rings both with the best upgrade stone

[woeful karma]

ik

[woeful karma]

smeaking heantm :prayuem:

[honest cradle]

Are you prob still early in ww but definitely there are better rings

[molten sundial]

what should I buy?

[woeful karma]

why?

[hollow light]

i think i read on reddit they are good

im still not on boomboxes so i cant get

[woeful karma]

i dont use those anymore lol

you should use elemental ring plus dust ring

[hollow light]

dust %

[honest cradle]

You only use attack speed until you can get the weapon power ones

[woeful karma]

or duel tenacity or tenacity and elemental ring for bosses

[honest cradle]

idr what they are called

[woeful karma]

tenacity i think
W4 pmush iirc is first source

[winter meteor]

if u dont have summoning doublers definetly get those

[woeful karma]

leef ring my beloved

[hollow light]

ok what bow should i use? curently i use the dust one from boards

[woeful karma]

dust one whenever
elemental bows for bosses

[honest cradle]

wrekt

[woeful karma]

D:<

mr 1% base highjer then my ring lol

[honest cradle]

wrekt again

[woeful karma]

oh yeah idc about that one

mine is low i know that
it was mroe of a good enough for solar dust not gonna grind some more

[honest cradle]

I spent a lot of time grinding out some nice rings

[woeful karma]

lol
ill farm better bows and rings in W5

esp bows

[honest cradle]

I settled on my weapons

But those get better the further you get into worlds

Rings are static

[grave badger]

can someone help me with the ok now its peak gaming quest? I need an S and P

[woeful karma]

yeah tahts why i am going to nto bother with bows until i treach W5

[honest cradle]

O wowo how did I never notice the S&P

I am oldge and never even put 2 and 2 together

nejo over here dunking on me like he noticed the connection the whole time

[woeful karma]

my rings atm

ive mostly settled on leaf

50% or 45% was max iirc

[mossy anvil]

whats with s and p

[woeful karma]

samaches and penutbututuer

[honest cradle]

investment things

I guess im not the only one

[mossy anvil]

ah index

[honest cradle]

that is a really sneaky reference not gonna lie

[mossy anvil]

i believe zuiq tho

[fair hare]

There is someone else looking in #party-finder-👪 right now. :)

[honest cradle]

I would love to help but im lazy

[woeful karma]

i would love to help but all i got is Ten G's

[mossy anvil]

im glad i dont have s and p

[honest cradle]

s and p dont work anyway

it has to be S and P

[woeful karma]

how goes the WW grind yet btw

[woeful karma]

wait really?
it has to be uppercase?
lameee

[honest cradle]

Havent touched it since I beat the last aboms

[woeful karma]

[honest cradle]

im sure I posted in chat so if you wanna know im sure search works

[woeful karma]

so youve maxed all the atoms and hole related stuff?

[honest cradle]

No idea, I am bad at game. W1 hardstuck as you can see

[woeful karma]

[woeful karma]

ah aight

[woeful karma]

ah i see that right
my b

[honest cradle]

I mean if you wanna know I can just send IT looking for stuff in master classes is a pain

[woeful karma]

is all good nw

was just curious, nothing more lol

[honest cradle]

Just have expectations in the basement (below the floor) and y ou will know my progress

[woeful karma]

so what i am hearing is that i might have better stats then you in specific limited areas got it

[honest cradle]

Assumed in everywhere

[woeful karma]

well youve beat the W6 aboms n stuff

so you must have better dmg n whatnot then me at least

[honest cradle]

Did you buy the new pack?

[woeful karma]

which one?

[honest cradle]

The santa one?

[woeful karma]

ah
yeah i might have folded and gotten that one 😅

[honest cradle]

kekw, makes your stuff much cheaper than mine

[woeful karma]

it will make this easier to max in W4

[honest cradle]

So you gonna get there much faster

[woeful karma]

you have W7 tho which also has reductions

which in reality for me the biggest issues i face is the more expensive stuff

[fair hare]

Do tickets work from event to event, the way the points do? Because I wasn't interested in the pet, but I might be interested in that boost.

[woeful karma]

tickets?

[honest cradle]

for x amount of upgrades a day

The scratch tickets?

[fair hare]

That pack comes with event tickets.

[woeful karma]

ohhh right

[honest cradle]

They are lost at end

[woeful karma]

suposedly lava made it so those are kept?
unsure tho
or maybe he made it so they convert if bought out of season?

[fair hare]

Ahh, NM then. I'd rather just spend 1200 gems. lol.

[woeful karma]

ah they are?

i thought lava made a change where they sustain through events or get converted

i should probably spend all my tickets nwo then so i dont lose them i assume?

[honest cradle]

If you had a scratch ticket and you dont use it p sure its gone when event ends

idk about buying a pack after its over

Havent done that

[woeful karma]

ah so only when bought out of season it gets converted got it

[fair hare]

It does make sense, since it's not an item in your inventory that you "apply" or anything. 1200 gems it is. :/

[honest cradle]

y do you want more scratches

Got that gamba itch

[woeful karma]

the pet i assume or something?

[fair hare]

5 more gets me the 100% the gingerbread guy. I don't have many decent name tags.

[woeful karma]

AW FUCK ME NOT AGAINNNN

[honest cradle]

lava making more gamba addicts like a mobile gatcha

[fair hare]

(I don't spend money on gamba stuff, but 5 more tickets is a sure thing. :) )

[woeful karma]

my biggest regtret is not ing more on the buried treasure event and the 4th ani event
got 4 and 3 nametages rspectivlly

[honest cradle]

gatcha games must have made more gamba addicts than las vegas by now

[woeful karma]

if only i made that 5 and 5

[woeful karma]

probs yeah ngl lmao

[fair hare]

Missed 4th Anni. Was here for summer (close to when I started) but had no idea what I was doing until the event was half over.

[woeful karma]

o7

the name tags were realllyyyyy good

[fair hare]

I absolutely hate gatcha stuff.

[woeful karma]

+44% exp MULTI
and +25% DR MULTI

[honest cradle]

ye I did not see gallery coming so it didnt makes sense once I got one of each you know

[fair hare]

Ohhhh, wow.

[honest cradle]

My gallery is p nooby

I dont do quests anough

[woeful karma]

oh shit my bad
144% multi*

it was +44% afk gainz

[honest cradle]

144% just means a gain of 44%

[fair hare]

I got some extra name tags in the last event, I think. One of them is useful for me, and I got two of those. (I think there is another that has mining, that I swap out.)

[woeful karma]

where

[fair hare]

Unless you have multiple multipliers, and I think there are some other class exp multipliers, aren't there?

[woeful karma]

does it?
lava is wierd about it

becasue i have rings that give me +7% exp multiu

[honest cradle]

that name tag is crazy expensive

[woeful karma]

this tho

[fair hare]

In other games, they're usually sort of...grouped? It kinda depends. Like Mallay is its own multiplier. You can see which DR things are multiplying by looking at IT.

[woeful karma]

yeah.

[woeful karma]

yeah ik
some are additive multies and soem are multi multies

[honest cradle]

You will notice the 10 purchese of more trash % lol

[fair hare]

Exactly.

[honest cradle]

Nothing about his use of percentages is consistent and makes sense

[woeful karma]

even fucking wording too

we have Drop rarity (addtive) and Drop rarity (multiplicitive)

neither nor are labeded what kind
they just share the same wording

[honest cradle]

I dont even think that is conssitent

[woeful karma]

no i mean like

[honest cradle]

He has said rarity and rate is the same

[woeful karma]

archer talent something something %Drop rarity
new robe
something % Drop rarity

[fair hare]

Well, those are two different things. That's why I count on IT, which unfortunately is currently giving me incorrect numbers. 🤣

[woeful karma]

one is a addtive
The other is a multi

[woeful karma]

it doesnt say adttive or multi tho
they share the same exact name a spelling but are differently internally

[clever blade]

Wtf is drop rate tho 😭

[woeful karma]

DR

DR = DR

[honest cradle]

p sure that was sarcastic

To insinuate that he doesnt have much and is sadge

[woeful karma]

honestly i just wish lava made it consistent

[clever blade]

Lava…. Consistent? Hahahahahaha!

[fair hare]

lol, there's also Drop Chance, isn't there?

[woeful karma]

you have Drop rate multi and drop rate
not drop rate multi (multi) drop rate (addtive) drop rate (multi) drop rarity (additive) drop rarity (multi) drop chance (additive)

[clever blade]

This is what i meant by my drop rate message but forgot the right word

[woeful karma]

i at least wish it was clarified what is a multi and what isnt

[fair hare]

Drop Rate, Drop Rarity, Drop Chance

[woeful karma]

like the crosier gaming jacket piratism robe

[honest cradle]

whallamus says additive

But I got a lot of dr from that "additive" whallamus talent

[clever blade]

atleast in idle skilling there’s some calculations you can see

[woeful karma]

becasue of your other DR multi sources

[honest cradle]

tbh everything always gives a % and there are so many things that give a % I have no idea what the base number even is

[fair hare]

oooh, IT updated again. Now I'm even more confused:

[woeful karma]

these are all multi
the rest is addtive
this makes slighrtly more sense at least ig

[honest cradle]

classic zui SS with about 15 pixels

[radiant bison]

Finally getting good green essence gains(pre ac class it was ~40/hr)

[fair hare]

It still doesn't match what the game is telling me. Game says 32.48. lol.

[woeful karma]

i just screen sniped from their SS lol

[radiant bison]

also my white essence literally went from 1.2k -> 8.35k/hr in a single day bc of this

(which further boosted green gains a bit)

[woeful karma]

blame lava.
thats all i can say
you have to figure out what 1.20x is worth +20% or +120%

[honest cradle]

red and cyan are monsters when it comes to pushing gains when newly unlocked

sparkies are insane

[woeful karma]

oh yeah got sidetracked but ye
dis mine lol

[radiant bison]

Monsters as in good, or as in painful?

[honest cradle]

ver y good

[pseudo flicker]

Good

[radiant bison]

Dope

Im about to get yellow soonish

[woeful karma]

i love how even the trask cans are getting festive

[pseudo flicker]

Red will definitely take a few days to reach but it’s great

[radiant bison]

question

how tough is the first 250k hp boss at shaman?

[woeful karma]

enough ppl in this server did it which forced me to change my name to make it more fitting too lmao

[radiant bison]

what color should I start trying it

[honest cradle]

only 4 more trash bonus? figured it would be way higher seeing as you have like 2-3 years on me

[fair hare]

I have 505, but mostly quit buying once I got the stamps and bribes. :P

[radiant bison]

but nametag

[woeful karma]

i ddidnt have W2 for a while remember

[pseudo flicker]

I haven’t changed this pfp all year haha, laziness supreme

[fair hare]

Saving up.

[radiant bison]

Still getting the 20% garbage will make getting multiple alot faster

[woeful karma]

ik but i wanted that +1 slab
ill wait fore the other 4 until +%garbage matches or is greater then nametag

[radiant bison]

fair

[honest cradle]

this year? I made this the picture on day one and never changed

[hexed lagoon]

can someone tell me why i dont got access to the Omega Motherboard that is on rotation? or is it random which side you get ?

[woeful karma]

i ahvent changed my username in years let alone my pfp :D

[honest cradle]

lava broke game and never fixed

[woeful karma]

your suposed to have it if you have hte W6 jade shop thing

however

[pseudo flicker]

I mean I’ve had the trash can picture since day 1, but someone photoshopped a Santa hat on it last Christmas season and that’s the only time I’ve ever changed it

[woeful karma]

lava broke the game with AC and has yet to fuckin fixi t despite it being a very large issue lol

[hexed lagoon]

yeah got the sneeking upgrade for lab

ok thanks @woeful karma

[honest cradle]

My account is p oldge

[woeful karma]

same lmao

[honest cradle]

got tired of skype being so shit so the jump to discord bc all the other ones cost money

[woeful karma]

my account is old enough to drink

(not legally but it would be capable of opening a bottle on its own and downing it)

[honest cradle]

you drink at 8 there? wild

[radiant bison]

lmao

[woeful karma]

an 8yo can most certainly open a wine bottle much less other stuff im sure

[pseudo flicker]

Many 30+ year olds can’t open a wine bottle

[honest cradle]

that sounds like brain damage

[woeful karma]

esp if they have unrestricted access to the internet

[honest cradle]

drinking hgabit by age 8

[woeful karma]

thats why bottle openers exist

[pine pilot]

A 2 years old could, you'd just get shard glass too

[radiant bison]

🤤 SOON

[woeful karma]

what can i say
the world is so shit that they start earrleir and earlier now

[woeful karma]

nice their already working on their stamps

[radiant bison]

I cant open one w/ a bottle opener

[honest cradle]

Wine isnt good so it will be ok

[radiant bison]

Im old enough to drink my arms are just shit

[merry rover]

is there a way to get amber while afk?

[woeful karma]

i just kinda unhinge my jaw like a snake and injest the entire bottle whole :pray

[radiant bison]

I mean yea I could do that

but I like to keep my teeth functional long term

[pine pilot]

Ho, if that isn't a P2W strat

[woeful karma]

https://tenor.com/view/google-stadia-google-stadia-yum-gif-18431274

kinda like this

[honest cradle]

there is an upgrade to get amber based on your biggest hauls across the caves

[woeful karma]

but with a beer bottle or wine bottle

[radiant bison]

you have to unhinge your jaw to eat something like that?

I could do that w/o it(my jaw is sorta loose)

[woeful karma]

well the wine bottle islarger tho
its round not ovular

what is the proper wording for that

circular
ovalure?

[radiant bison]

yea itd defo involve some glass shards

[woeful karma]

ovlure?

[radiant bison]

but I guess I could do that

[honest cradle]

I can beleive this was an asian advert if BK made it to asia

[radiant bison]

Oh damn

[woeful karma]

[radiant bison]

unexplainable daily gains :P

[woeful karma]

well that ruins the wine unless your a vampire

the goal is it have it reach your stomach and then melt the cork

[radiant bison]

I mean im sorta a vampire

I like the taste of blood and am pale as fuck

[honest cradle]

oblong btw zui

Is the correct word

[pine pilot]

Pale as dead and never out during day ?

[woeful karma]

afaik
vamps dont really drink their own blood do they?

[radiant bison]

Im allergic to the outside world :(

Not the sun though

[radiant bison]

pollen allergies so bad I get them during the winter from the grass

[woeful karma]

i remember when my brother once went outside and took a nap on accident for liek and hour or two o na semi sunny day and almost got 3rd degree burns from it lmfao

he is built different

[radiant bison]

interestingly my body doesnt burn from sun like at all

to be fair im like half dead from a single molecule of pollen before it gets to that point

[woeful karma]

yeah unlike him despite not liking the sun i dont burn like a vampire lmao

[radiant bison]

So what your saying is that to become immortal I need to gain a sun allergy?

[woeful karma]

i prefer darkness overlight but i dont burn too easily lol

[merry rover]

is this from spelunking itself or a bonus from somewhere else

[honest cradle]

spelunking

[merry rover]

ok

[radiant bison]

Mood

[honest cradle]

Uh zui you know what a 3rd degree burn is yes?

[woeful karma]

just remember
importality does not mean invulnerability

[honest cradle]

I doubt he got it from sleeping and direct sunlight exposure

[radiant bison]

Ik, thats good that means I can end it intentionally or not when things get boring in a few thousand years

[honest cradle]

I dont think importality means anything

[radiant bison]

true immortality + invulnerability is boring

bc then your just stuck till the heatdeath of the universe

[honest cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/gotword-deeznuts-gottem-deez-nuts-gif-4394929

[woeful karma]

immortality

[radiant bison]

https://tenor.com/view/global-trading-global-trading-gif-22201850

nah he clearly meant importality

[honest cradle]

I had a feeling but you typed importality

[woeful karma]

until you mentally collapse and become a forever existence that doesnt even retain a shell of your former self

[radiant bison]

hes gonna add a stock market and global trade into idleon

[honest cradle]

idk maybe that means he cant play portal

[woeful karma]

my fingers are a bit fucked atm

[pine pilot]

If you are immortal, you suffer indefinitely,
If you are invulnerzble you can pass on painlessly,
If you are both, good luck

[honest cradle]

now now

[woeful karma]

better then impotentality

[honest cradle]

That depends on the fiction you're using

[woeful karma]

unless your a girl

[amber nexus]

How do you get sesame seed for bob?

[woeful karma]

i dont think that really
effects girls

i could be wrong tho

[radiant bison]

I gtg, gonna go fly into the sun repeatedly in outer wilds w/ a friend

[woeful karma]

the mimics in the area above

[amber nexus]

K

[honest cradle]

mimic

The one that always eat frieren you know

Good show until the last arc

[woeful karma]

nah go to the ash twin, to that place
and vibe until the end of the universe listening to the amazing vibes

[amber nexus]

Y

[honest cradle]

Why what

[amber nexus]

It won’t let me spend money because of a glitch I am sad

[woeful karma]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-mimic-dinner-gif-8047412766669083340

[honest cradle]

there might have been a scroll

[woeful karma]

:(

MSM
some girl
fnaf
and something esle
but no idleon

[faint crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/idle-natural-idk-rare-monster-my-singing-monsters-gif-12677709344292936370

[woeful karma]

rare mimic my beloved

[amber nexus]

Any tips for fish paste quest I have 97 trillion eff

[woeful karma]

https://tenor.com/view/mimic-msm-mimic-is-so-peak-gif-5321461447444765301

[woeful karma]

is that the can can can one?

[amber nexus]

Yes

[woeful karma]

maximize whatever colour is the second one (for cans) and fish in the more likely to be cans spot
watch the number and hope for a triple can

[amber nexus]

K

[woeful karma]

once you see that hit 3/3 stop fishing immediately otherwise it will go back down to 0/3

4/3 amd 5/3 also work

but once it hooks something other then a can even if yur at 3/3 it goes back down to 0/3 iirc

you just gotta kinda baby it whuilst it afks

if you dont know the exact fishing spot i can tell you

[amber nexus]

Which?

[woeful karma]

oops wrong thing

[amber nexus]

Ty

[woeful karma]

(clicked on the wrong clipbord thing and sent it)

[woeful karma]

this is actually the same one for fishing prints too btw

[amber nexus]

K

How do you get the yellow rings?

[woeful karma]

quest iirc

[fair hare]

Omar

[balmy crystal]

[honest cradle]

You got a tide for a jocund?

[fair hare]

Wow, and I thought trading Doot for Jocund was bad. lol.

[honest cradle]

I should have saved one of those lmao

I gave like 2 of those away

[woeful karma]

noiceee

one day i too will own a RIPtide

[honest cradle]

lol it wasnt me

[balmy crystal]

im saving a ballonfish once it goes out of rotation which is in a year or smth

[woeful karma]

i meant to reply the to the one above lol

[honest cradle]

I gave my baloonfish to dead

I think?

[balmy crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1236455214668583067/1417911651507638393/noted.gif

[fair hare]

Next package I get that has pet gems, that's what I'm going for, Balloon Fish. Unless I can find someone desperately in need of a Leek to complete their Fallen set. :P

[honest cradle]

Maybe that was to someone else I dont remember

[woeful karma]

i gave my puffer for balloon

[balmy crystal]

i gave away like 4 exclusives for free

[woeful karma]

damn lol

[fair hare]

I got Mallay for Crystal Capybara (and a bunch of the lower level new pets that I didn't have yet).

[faint crystal]

i sold my samurai to roll for whale

[honest cradle]

isnt whale an exlusive

[woeful karma]

other whale

[faint crystal]

whallamus i meant

[woeful karma]

whjalemus whale

[honest cradle]

whallamus?

[fair hare]

And I got Golem for Samurai, which I thought was weird at the time because I hadn't reached W5 yet.

[faint crystal]

yeah launch day pressure really gets to you and you do stupid decisions

[honest cradle]

sammy was high prio back when I started

I didnt even think about jocund back then lol

[balmy crystal]

tru

[fair hare]

Everyone tried to tell me how good it was, but since it was useless to me at the time...lol. And I only traded Doot for Jocund because I heard the set was being pulled, Jocund was all I was missing, and shockingly got Doot. (Said 22nd try or something, so pretty early.)

[honest cradle]

I traded a jocund for a doot, was that you? lmao

[fair hare]

Haha, dunno :D Don't remember.

Whoever it was, was pretty happy. I'd actually planned to gift Doot to a friend here if I got it, but like...the day the Fallen pets leaving was announced, the next day I won Doot.

And I figured that Jocund was going to be scarce pretty quickly, since many people were asking even before the set was pulled.

[honest cradle]

o that was way before talking about new pet rotation

[fair hare]

I forget specifically when it was announced, but quite a ways ahead of W7, I think? eta: can't find the announcement, but it was October 26 when he said in Gen chat that it wasn't coming back as a full rotation.

[hollow light]

where can i get more leef rings before world 4 i had some but i forgot where from

[honest cradle]

Found it

[honest cradle]

look in tips and tricks and search "WW" and look into that forum

[fair hare]

Not me, then - just another Jocund-starved player. lol.

[honest cradle]

8 months ago damn

[fair hare]

lmao! That is actually my start date. :)

(I think.)

[honest cradle]

you can click on your name and see when you joined disc

[fair hare]

Didn't join this server immediately, unfortunately. I know it's in IT somewhere.

IT says 4/30, though don't know if that is when I signed up for IT, or when I actually started. Pretty sure it's when I started.

[final fable]

What does garlic bread's buff actually do? (+x% library VIP Membership)

[fair hare]

There are extra books you can get, that are more expensive than regular books, in a separate list at the bottom.

[dreamy solar]

But they cost regular books

[final fable]

so then what does the buff change? every 100% is another book?

[proven saddle]

What's the meta class set up from 1 to 9?

[dreamy solar]

That’s great that it exists but the buff sounds like it doesn’t do anything

[fair hare]

NOt sure, lol. They show on mine. 🤷 But it says you have to get a certain percentage to unlock. Not sure if there is one at a time, or what. (I looked at them but I'm still working on my regular library, so ignored.)

[fair hare]

Well, if you want those books, it does something. If not, then not. :)

[proven saddle]

my 7th is a mastro, the next is DK what's the next one I should add, I do have the others set up exacly how it is accidently lol

[dreamy solar]

No lol? It’s all the same books. Normal library and vip library, vip just uses multiple. There is no vip membership speed

[fair hare]

They didn't show up on my list until I got some percentages so...don't know what to tell you. But YMMV. Those are star talents, aren't they? I haven't seen the elsewhere, though I suppose they might be. If I was going to use multiple books on something (currently, at least) I would do the 20 books to get max level.

[fair hare]

According to wiki, you have to reach a certain percentage to unlock the books in the first place, so like I said - don't know what to tell you. :)

[forest rain]

What to get from Giftmas shop? There is some golden square, weird Equinox valley thing, inventory and Ballots(?)

Is pouch shared between all chars? Im struggling with space xd

[fair hare]

I went Trimmed Square, Equinox, Pouch (which does go to all chars). I don't have enough left for the last one. :P

[forest rain]

What the square do?

Its thos boxes in construct on bottom?

[fair hare]

Triples construction speed for one of your slots.

[balmy crystal]

nah, pouch -> equinox -> square -> ballot

[forest rain]

Sharable pouch is big indeed. thanks

[balmy crystal]

we have 5 of those squares

[fair hare]

It was my first one, so been very helpful. :) Now I have another one from...somewhere. lol.

[forest rain]

I'm so confused with what I'm doing. There is so many things to do and I'm trying one and while I doing it I forgot what I'm doing cuz looking at some other thing already

[fair hare]

You just described my entire Idleon life. 🤣

[honest cradle]

I would say pouch, vote, equi then square

[forest rain]

Once I start clicking random buttons with 0 thoughts in mind I'm just closing the game cuz I no idea what I wanted to do

[fair hare]

I forget to vote about 2 out of 3 times anyway. :) I forget lots of things in this game. I don't think I've done my two monuments in like...a week now. Though I guess Christmas and all.

[forest rain]

Vote is w2 blob thing?

[honest cradle]

If your reasoning for square holds true then you should be saying the same thing

[fair hare]

?

[honest cradle]

Coral gives me 3x more speed than that event buff

[fair hare]

I won't be in W7 for probably 6 months, though. I'm slow. lol.

(I am the person who has been playing 8 months, played a half dozen Summoning games, won 4, and never touched it again. Next week for sure!!)

I'm not sure I could get to W7 even using all of my candy. Maybe, though?

Haven't added it up. lol.

[honest cradle]

I was told w6 portals were nerfed

[balmy crystal]

skydoggies now have a 3 people spirit lock instead of 9

[mossy anvil]

why

[balmy crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1236455214668583067/1416533306253639771/monkey-thinking-monkey.gif

[fair hare]

Yeah, not nearly as hard and you can candy them, too. But as I said, I'm not sure I have that much candy. And if I do, I don't know that I want to use it all just to get to W7. lol.

I'm not at Sky Doggies yet. One of the maps required 2 people, and another required 3.

[mossy anvil]

if u struggling with kills in w6, u wont be able to progress much in w7

[fair hare]

Not struggling, exactly, but I'm not speedy. (Should have lead with my Bubo/AC, I think; now she's behind.) But mostly it's because my guys are running around doing other things that should have been done in the first couple of months that I played the game.

Having two unclassed beginners hasn't been very helpful either, lol.

This is my best (though she's never done any AC stuff yet).

[mossy anvil]

when does mc week end

[fair hare]

MC week?

[balmy crystal]

look it yourself

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1236455214668583067/1418689531174977557/deadge.gif

[mossy anvil]

please tell me, im saving my tp points

[honest cradle]

home tele potions

[balmy crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343435665513254975/1449893375120638147/image0.gif

[balmy crystal]

busy

[mossy anvil]

forfeit the run

[balmy crystal]

cant

[wispy summit]

hi guys do yall know which give the best efficiency for critters>

not shiny ones

[balmy crystal]

i think the its the meal

[fair hare]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=critters

[true hamlet]

I think it's Call me Ash

[balmy crystal]

oh yeah the bubble, i forgor

[mossy anvil]

what was the thing that lets u reroll afk claims

[woeful karma]

jman talent toi

too*

[radiant bison]

But, funny

also he hasnt found that place yet

[woeful karma]

but they scale now
but true tho
high enough level cma will be best overall single total source

[woeful karma]

damn
it is such a good fuckin song tho

[radiant bison]

mhm

[mossy anvil]

ty

[radiant bison]

He did however reach the location you bring that from that place lmao

[balmy crystal]

zuiq, did you play the dlc?

[woeful karma]

I listen to it on loop

[mossy anvil]

how much will meritocracy eat

[woeful karma]

yesnt
I'm halfway through it rn
got stuck on the dark section tho
will take another Crack at it soon enough

[woeful karma]

40k more pray

[mossy anvil]

got it ty

[woeful karma]

fun fact
I crossed "the bridge" on accident due to exoring before it even told me where it was and how I was supposed to make it over to the place kek

gotta love when exploring reveals stuff you arnt supposed to find yet

funnily enough actually

[radiant bison]

I had to use a mod to get passed certain parts bc of my low tollerance for jumpscares n dark places

(its a mircale bramble doesnt terrify me)

[woeful karma]

I found the not as warm place as one would think
and the "bridge" without it telling me what to do or before I even got to that point)

[woeful karma]

fun fact
I read it
but brain didn't brain right
and thought it was trex logic

[radiant bison]

lmao yea they have ||worm logic||

[woeful karma]

it was not.
I figured that out after dying like 6 times
and the aced it once I realized by brain fucked me over by thinking the wrong thing

[honest cradle]

so close will I make it chat

[woeful karma]

yeah thats why I deid so many times
I flipped the two lmao

but yeah
I just need to brute force the dark area and then just cut out the failed attempts (I was recording a series on it)
(blind)

[woeful karma]

ah Rip I mist go
work calls
will be back I 30-50 minutes tho

[honest cradle]

well I made it

But I dont think I can kill it

[balmy crystal]

stats?

[honest cradle]

one hit poggers

damn

[radiant bison]

killroy!

prepping for killroy prime ig

[balmy crystal]

uff

[honest cradle]

need more pow

[balmy crystal]

i think it might be easier to hit the jackpot in arcade

[radiant bison]

by the time I get killroy prime itll be a boon for dmg ig

[honest cradle]

was hoping my 5x pow potion stacked

In fact it does not

[radiant bison]

Question so when u prestige to get beans I assume these reset to thier minimal values?

[balmy crystal]

no crops = 0

[mossy anvil]

no

[radiant bison]

so basically the bonus growth speed goes back to garbo when u prestige

[mossy anvil]

your bean upgrade stays, u just need to get 200 again on each crop

[radiant bison]

that second part was what I was asking

[mossy anvil]

i cherry pick what i read

[honest cradle]

Train your crops before a reset

[balmy crystal]

thats why we prep the last crops unlocked before bean trade

[radiant bison]

yea I will, focused on upgrades rn though

[honest cradle]

Like you are playing cod zombies back on the 360

[radiant bison]

Never played cod zomb

[balmy crystal]

same

[honest cradle]

babies

Too young

[balmy crystal]

was playing csgo and borderlands

[radiant bison]

No, I just dont play games like cod

[honest cradle]

when I first played it on world at war I was blown away

[radiant bison]

tf2 is the most violent game I play thats multiplayer

[honest cradle]

Felt kind of like playing halo 2 couch co op for the first time

[mossy anvil]

i remember first call of duty or maybe 2nd one where u had to throw potatoes in tutorial

[bleak stirrup]

Is this a one-time only thing, or can it be repeated to add new bonuses?

[honest cradle]

ofc you played cod instead of the good games back then

Medal of honor

[fair hare]

One time. :)

[bleak stirrup]

ty

[mossy anvil]

i said i remember it coz u were talking about cod zombies, i was more cs 1.6 player than cod or bf

[honest cradle]

I was mostly playing ratchet and clank and spyro/crash

[mossy anvil]

but that was not on pc

[honest cradle]

I was poor and had a playstation

[mossy anvil]

i had ps too before

we talked about it last time

[bleak stirrup]

Does shrines take effect at the second you place it out, or does it need to level up first?
I noticed that my max HP doesn't change when placing the Isaccian Shrine out.

[woeful karma]

hp wierd
change maps and then go back to that map

same with hp potions and mining eff
you need to for some reason if swapping them in and out for eff need to change maps and then do it
it's wierd

[woeful karma]

[bleak stirrup]

it didn't work. mmh. I'll try to restart the client

[woeful karma]

[ruby pasture]

Can somebody send the sheet that has all the meals

[woeful karma]

fwiw I don't really do well with horror either
I got 10% of the way into alien and got up until the final chapter of Blair witch
those two are thr biggest horror game I've played
me and horror used to go together about as well as puppies and fire ants

tho thankfully due to MBH I've gained a better horror tolerance
still suboptimal but better then nothing

[woeful karma]

!wiki

[candid scarab]

Here is the link to the Legends of Idleon wiki. It contains incredibly valuable info that will help you progress faster and more efficiently! https://idleon.wiki/

[woeful karma]

or do you mean ribbon tier list

[ruby pasture]

The wiki doesn't have the w7 meals yet. I looked at the spreadsheet before and it did i think

[woeful karma]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1412271921369710725
there is also this
unfortunately the bastard fucker hasn't updated it for w7 meals yet

that lazy ass should do it soon

[ruby pasture]

Exactly loll

Theres a spreadsheet with every skill

[sterile spindle]

The 2x refinery salts from the panda companion seems really good right now, as salts are my current bottleneck. If I planned to buy one more pack, would the Blizzard Bliss pack be a sensible buy?

[balmy crystal]

w7 its just the last 4 spices and thats it

[woeful karma]

smh man
such a stupid procrastinator should really get on it sooner rather then later

[woeful karma]

it gives you twice the room for over ranking then what you had befire

[ruby pasture]

Is that the best for all 4 meals?

Ty

[woeful karma]

it's all spelunking meal related tho sadly

[ruby pasture]

2000 days tho so tbd 😭

[woeful karma]

unrelated
chat
how hard do yall think it would be for me to get lv 11 meals for the final 4 meals?

[balmy crystal]

be better cook

[woeful karma]

gain some stable foundations

[ruby pasture]

The difficulty is probably just unlocking them.

[pine mural]

Is there a way to check what account bonuses you have?

[ruby pasture]

Bro the cat meal was unlocked in like a single minute 😭

[woeful karma]

the humble 250x4 gem shop purchase

[ruby pasture]

Aw hell naw

[woeful karma]

for what specifically?

[woeful karma]

hey
kts an option

[ruby pasture]

I mean theres idleon toolbox and idleon efficiency

[woeful karma]

but in reality

[pine mural]

Just to see which packs I have

[woeful karma]

go grind ac
prismatic Dchef.

[woeful karma]

I think IT has that in the gem shop section?

undure

[fair hare]

Does the Atom Collider Oxygen Library Booker ever add more max levels than the initial 10 if you level it? Or does it just adjust the refresh speed and or minimum?

[balmy crystal]

just speed

[woeful karma]

higher level just mean faster checkout speed afaik

[fair hare]

Thanks! I'll ignore it for now, then. :) (The +10 was all I really wanted. :D)

[woeful karma]

10 is cap +base talent level book max

[signal thorn]

is it reccomneded to use midas prayer on ES or no?

[woeful karma]

is that the coin one?

for hp?

[signal thorn]

drop rate increase and max hp of mobs increase

[woeful karma]

if you can hit max portal cou t I assume yes

other wise I assume not?

[balmy crystal]

^^

[woeful karma]

ES is like the one class that never has enough damage imo

even for me

with my stable foundations

[fair hare]

Only have two more atoms that I can level, that are showing right now, and I don't care about the last one. Where do the last two (not yet showing) come from?

[woeful karma]

M y E S C r a v e s M o a r D a m a g e

[woeful karma]

ww

one is ||critter|| related
and one is ||exhalt bonus|| related

[fair hare]

Ahhh, won't be seeing those for a while then. So yay, I can put my printer back to what it's supposed to be. Thanks!

[woeful karma]

former is kinda like the ||gold printer relic from sailing
the +%/d until replace||

[woeful karma]

aluminum is earlier on ijrc
but magnesium
that's like min w5 ww fue to needing cooldust

I've had ww aluminum since w3

[balmy crystal]

wtf

aluminum is exalt

[woeful karma]

oh shit my bad

I flipped the two

[signal thorn]

148 wormhole kills without midas and 131 with it, for flomebieges going for twines, what would yall say is better

[fair hare]

Eh, as I was saying earlier, WW is apparently one of the many things I suck at in this game. Swoldier suggested I start with DB, so hopefully start that soon. :)

[woeful karma]

aluminum is end game ww
magnesium is early/mid ww

[balmy crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1236455214668583067/1395950199712514270/bugcat-nods-edit.gif

[woeful karma]

all good
your not missing oht on much

well
you missing oht on some stuff but not as easy as db to work on iirc

as long as you are letting your ww gain ather moons jt should be fine?

ww is a source of class exp multi
exhaltef stamps
and some more

[fair hare]

Um...lol. I put him in Tempest mode one day, just died and died, wasn't fun, and now I basically just use him as BM.

[woeful karma]

some bonuses to critter gain
hole stuff
and sneaking

[woeful karma]

you didn't have enough sefence I am assuming

[fair hare]

(Except with like...the Uwu Rawrr bonus and things like that. :) )

[woeful karma]

you probs kept trying to kill stuff without enough defence

[woeful karma]

some commandments My beloved

[fair hare]

My defense is almost like a newbies. It's better than it was a couple of months ago JUST barely. lol. Another one of those many things I need to work on. This is why I don't expect to see W7 for several months. :P

[woeful karma]

to make you aware

tempest has it sown stata

separate from ww stats

[fair hare]

Well, it would be hard to raise those, if that's the case, if all you can do is die. lol.

[woeful karma]

you need to gain some stardust to upgrade the ww compass defence syst

[fair hare]

Eh, DB->AC->WW. Will get there eventually. :)

[woeful karma]

it's called don't stand right on top of the gmush abom until you have like 20ndefence bro 💀

I honestly do not know whatbyou were doing wrong ina be real eith you chief
I built up some stats within the first 30 minutes of its release
and then I let ot afk at gmush when I left for a job for like 2 hours

Mayne you didn't have any hp food or points into hemoglobin?
that's two of my biggest guesses as to why you were dying
also defence

[fair hare]

I don't even remember at this point. I was active, not AFK, and def always have food/hemo.

[woeful karma]

hp food as in healing food
not hp boost food

[woeful karma]

active afk

my b

I mean like I left it on auto for 2 hours because I had to leave for work

and left it on my pc

[fair hare]

It likes you better. I mean...I may have gotten through one battle and don't remember? It just wasn't a fun experience.

[woeful karma]

one battle?

or one abomination?

[woeful karma]

if I remember tomorrow I might be able to send you some recordings of me early WW
I recorded it all from getting it via Easter egg plus the first 30 or so minutes and then for a bit after I came back from work

for you to get an idea what to do and not to do whenever you get into doing ww stuff

[fair hare]

Honestly, I don't remember. I just remember it wasn't fun. lol. My comment at the time was basically if I wanted to start completely over, I'd start a new account, lol. So I went back to shoring up alchemy, printer, construction, etc. and definitely making some progress there. I think once I get some of the stuff I skipped or lightly glossed over done, I'll be in a bit better position. :)

[woeful karma]

ah
fair enough
I personally didn't find it unfun
but the again
no db or ac

all inwill ask is
roughly what level was your ww?
like ballpark
100
200
300
etc?

also afaik
there wernt too many outside of ww bonuses tonww when ingot it or had it
things will he easier for you once you get to it again in the fut

[fair hare]

Looks like I do have some dust (looking at the compass). WW is 430

[balmy crystal]

having 2kx dr made it super easy

[woeful karma]

oh OK you were Ina better state talent wise then I was

[fair hare]

lmao. I hate you. :D

[honest cradle]

ewh gross I was in pizza one

[woeful karma]

not for them
not until you start getting levels in the Dr bonus in elemental

[woeful karma]

fwiw
I didn't have any db or ac bonuses when I started
don't think I had the helmet either
unsure tho

[honest cradle]

dr made wut easy tats quite the block of text above

[fair hare]

Maybe I should get the helmet, if that's still available. I did get the pack for WW, but my DK is using it. lol.

[woeful karma]

Dr effects item drops like rings and bows and medallions
unsure about actual dust tho

[woeful karma]

hat rack bonus

[fair hare]

Yep, it's still in the shop.

[woeful karma]

[balmy crystal]

we got enough dust multi i think

[woeful karma]

I just have a bit more knowledge on we progession then the avg idkeoner and its Mt only masterclass so...

[woeful karma]

yeah new pets and meritocracy and bubble plus others

[fair hare]

When you jumping to W5?

[woeful karma]

super talents too

[woeful karma]

a few months or less

[fair hare]

That'll be fun to see :)

[woeful karma]

need to finish up my breeding goals (shiny to lv 7 or 8, breedabilty across the board to 5)

[balmy crystal]

the reason i neglected ww until a couple days ago was because of 5/5 bows and rings

but now i have enough stones for 100 guaranteed 5/5 bows

[honest cradle]

Breedability is so useless

[balmy crystal]

tome score and achievement

[woeful karma]

aw hell yeah

The air is getting warmer around you

[woeful karma]

ww crit% tho...

[balmy crystal]

very little amount

[honest cradle]

I got to like 105% with about 10 total breedabilty levels

[woeful karma]

I have like 20k or 200k of the 10pct bow and ring stones

[woeful karma]

5% megacrit chance

aside from that yeah breedabilty is fucking God awful I can't wait to be done with it for now

currently
2.5/4

[honest cradle]

the argument is against doing any breedability

[woeful karma]

I can't stop when I'm over halfway to breedabilty 5 on every pet

[honest cradle]

well you can

It will just bug you for a few days

[woeful karma]

I'm done with w1 and w2
working on w3 rn and then need to finish w4

[woeful karma]

I'm grinding ww too for compass reasons too

so it works out

finished 20/20 atom upgrade
working 20/25 on opal and then on 20/xxxx monument and finally for 66/xxxx atom reduction I want to get to 99/xxxx

[honest cradle]

You arent even supposed to have ww

that isnt a w4- thing

[woeful karma]

or actually just 100/xxxx
why stop at 99% when I can go for 100%!

[woeful karma]

[woeful karma]

https://tenor.com/view/hyehehe-my-singing-monsters-msm-hyehehe-my-singing-monsters-hyehehe-msm-gif-16276270319131493177

[woeful karma]

(me btw not you)

but yeah
doesn't stop me from working on it
plus it gives me tangible benefits so why not

gives me exhalted stamps
class exp multi
hole stuff for when I get to w5 (soon 🙏)
and more!

[honest cradle]

lol, you do you zui

[woeful karma]

the epitome of Path of Zuiq

[faint galleon]

does this only work if another character is in the tube?

[woeful karma]

it should work on all players

iirc it procs on my 4 players out of lab

(eternal 6/10 labbed players due to no arctis)

[fair hare]

But it's the lowest lab level.

[faint galleon]

does my character have to not be lv1 for it to work then?

[woeful karma]

yeah
those ones tend to have lower lab level the the ones in lab

[honest cradle]

I think you need a minimum level idr

[woeful karma]

it goes for whatever level with the lowest (xx.xx%/100%) level progression

[woeful karma]

idr
should be low if there is one afaik
ca t be higher then 10

[honest cradle]

I would assume like level 2

[woeful karma]

yeah

or even lv 1 (1.00%/100%)

[faint galleon]

i have 3 at lv1 and non of them have gotten the xp since i took him off of praying to do lab for that

[fair hare]

Bubo is in the lab?

[faint galleon]

ill yeet them into the vat for a night and see if it starts functioning

[faint galleon]

yeah he got a bunch of xp this morning and they were all still lv1 when i checked

[fair hare]

Did you log into the other character? (I'm searching Discord for things that could cause that, and apparently that's one of them, not loading the other character.)

[faint galleon]

yeah i did

i assume they have to lv2 since all 3 of them were lv1 0% xp

[fair hare]

Are you using the experience converter talent? Because apparently that can make it bug (according to bug reports)

[red relic]

We did it. T20 on yummi peachring

[fair hare]

Also, apparently sometimes it goes to the wrong (not lowest) person.

[faint galleon]

yes do i need to turn it off?

[fair hare]

Congrats!

[fair hare]

Might try it, since someone said it could bug it?

[normal creek]

How ca i get more dmg im early w5 and deal 100M with dk

[lyric perch]

does anyone know a good stat build for an active journeyman?

[hollow cave]

There's not supposed to be a way to afk the Equinox Ram right?

[fair hare]

Not that I'm aware of. I think the character select screen shows them fighting Rams, but then when you go there, you don't get anything?

[hollow cave]

hmm I see, I'll see if I can investigate how this happened then, cause I have not actived it but somehow have this on it

[fair hare]

(I mean if I leave them there. I also think sometimes they just got moved to the previous sector, but I may be imagining that. lol.)

[faint crystal]

hi noobs

[hollow cave]

I remember having issues trying to afk there, so I must've done something weird at some time, but not sure what, if it seems unintended probably somethin to report as a bug

[fair hare]

But Wam Wonderland has the same rams.

[hollow cave]

same rams, different Zow/Chow/Wow

I already did the one on the actual rams map

[fair hare]

Oh, interesting!

[hollow cave]

similarly the nutto at the roots (the leftmost in the image) is a separate nutto

that one I did actually active a bit, but as you can see I didn't do much, the Sand Giant is the doot map enemy I believe aswell

[fair hare]

I wonder if it's just an IT thing? Like IT can see it, because the data is in the game, but the game doesn't actually do anything with it?

[hollow cave]

hmm, good question

I could try with the sand giant one, as getting to a Zow should be pretty easy and I can check my in-game talent to check if it's applying

[fair hare]

(Ignoring data from a map might be programatically easier in whatever system he's using than trying to not store it for particular maps.)

(Retired Web Dev/DBA/etc.)

[fair hare]

I'd be really curious to see!

[hollow cave]

I'll give it a check after doing some tests around equinox to see if I can figure out what I did and report if it seems something broken

[faint galleon]

ok they just had to be lv2

[fair hare]

Now I'll know if I see someone ask again. :)

[hollow cave]

oh actually the equinox thing worked, needa test more to be certain what the cause is but it does seem to count, for clarity the top one seems to have updated the number but NOT multiplier, and after a cloudsave it fixed to the bottom value (1.1^88 is ~4391 so rounded to 4.4k while 1.1^89 is ~4830.2 rounded up to 4.84k)

but seems like it does count and work

[ebon mango]

Does anyone know what the problem is? I've been playing the game the whole time, and I just had a coin multiplier of 17,000x (I know, I'm a noob), but all of a sudden, I only have 718x.

[fair hare]

On the same character?

[ebon mango]

on every character

[glacial osprey]

Can i keep my point in Giftmas Shop for next event?

[fair hare]

Eh, mine are all different, so not sure what to tell you. lol. I have some who have their coins boosted and some not so much. If I change the talent sets, it might go up or down.

[fair hare]

They stay for the next event.

[ebon mango]

Yeah, I know, but at the moment, something is broken for me, I think. All my characters are around 710-720x.

[fair hare]

The one thing I'm wondering, I think I said (or maybe did not) that sometimes when I leave someone in Equinox and go off to other characters (or maybe cloud save? not sure) I think they end up in Blood Bones. Though that wouldn't make sense, because IT shows a count of Rams in Equinox. Did you check the IT changes for this?

[fair hare]

Sec, checking something.

Nope, that wasn't it. (I was checking to see if there was a shrine that affected that multiplier, 'cause I've really never paid much attention to what the shrines do, just level 'em up.)

[ebon mango]

I don't even know what a shrine is

[fair hare]

Ahh. Shrines are part of W3 Construction.

[ebon mango]

ah ok

[fair hare]

Where are you seeing this? (I've kinda never paid attention to that kind of in game thing, I just check IT.)

[ebon mango]

I sent you a DM I can't send photos here.

[fair hare]

Yeah, you have to talk for a little while to be able to post screenies :)

[ebon mango]

Yeah, I only started playing the game three days ago, so I haven't done a lot of talking.

[woeful karma]

it is not.

my apocalypse has higher then jt should have done

still need tonwork on Gmush cap dropping sand giants (doot)
Dram eq
and Roots nutto

[woeful karma]

yep

[woeful karma]

it sends you to blood bones because you arnt supposed to be able to afk in eq
so it bumps you from eq drams to map before eq blood bones

afk mob type doesn't necessarily equal map your afking in

[woeful karma]

the eq dram spawns off map and you need axe toss n stuff to hit it

[opal needle]

oh no 🙂

[woeful karma]

same thing with doot arena and booting youbto sand giants

[woeful karma]

ohbive been there before!

[opal needle]

send help.

oh thank god, they finally died

[mystic vigil]

just 20 booked blood marrow without knowing I was already at the cap

[woeful karma]

o7

[opal needle]

1 crystal dmg is 1,000,000T purple dmg right?

[mystic vigil]

yea

[opal needle]

im halfway there....

[shut hull]

cog 4 hh dungeon carry by jiof we need more people

[wooden wave]

should i replace the 1st cog with the 2nd cog since 2nd cog has a higher player construct exp? or does bonus construct exp and player construct exp add up?

[mystic vigil]

just replace the cogs and check how much xp per hour you're getting on your players

[tight yarrow]

new to w4 and i'm obsessed with this hollow purple pig

[final fable]

How does the anvil production pipeline work? I assumed that items would go to my storage automatically without me clicking a button but that doesnt seem to be the case. Does it just move the items to storage for all of my characters when I hit it on one?

[opal needle]

what.

[sinful gale]

Damn i didnt know this daily dig thing exists i wouldve gotten so much more presents

[quick plank]

what and where are these pants