midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[radiant bison]

ah

[arctic yarrow]

i was confused, then i read the next talent

[radiant bison]

I was still confused even reading the next talent

the next talent reads like its, its own thing

why isnt the math thingy on the next talent then???

wait till you learn about WW pre 150 talents

honestly wasnt that bad

I still need to reach db afk

Im at like 15% or so last I checked

why do the crystal mobs randomly become immortal for like 30-40 seconds?

[river spade]

unlocked cheese just in time for the next chocolate chip rotation

[radiant bison]

nice

[honest cradle]

if you play one active it always shows the active one with way less

[radiant bison]

first staff!

Imma get to that tenteycle thing in "no time" at this rate

not too bad/hr for my horrible kph

my poison actually gets kills now w/ the staff

yea thisll take a while to get it setup but its better than literally none

yea even at 8% its like 2x faster than my prev kph

Im happy I can drop these at all tbh

Id like to keep my gstack so larrry doesnt get that many upgrades atm

so far I need this more than other upgrades so i focused it a bit and its nearly 50% my normal cooldown rate from it!

bubo really does suck w/o tenteyecle huh

at lvl 14-15 I should finally be able to nearly have full uptime on more full maps atleast

yea ~3 less kills needed on adv for perma uptime per level

[opaque mural]

• doesnt work?

[somber depot]

Huh?

[arctic yarrow]

wdym doesnt work?

[somber depot]

That's what I'm wondering mate

[opaque mural]

as in the cap boost doesnt actually get drained

[somber depot]

Also hallo

[arctic yarrow]

no lol. it just means excess liquied generated is invested into the upgrades

[sleek stone]

hallo

[arctic yarrow]

hallo poetic cheese

[sleek stone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[somber depot]

The cap gets increased and the production becomes slower for the second upgrade, the first one as it says makes it so that the two cauldron upgrades (capacity and speed) passively gain water whenever you have excess amounts being produced

[somber depot]

How are ya guys?

[arctic yarrow]

so so. been cluster farming

[opaque mural]

yea but it still doesnt seem to work together

[sleek stone]

bad

[somber depot]

Oof

[opaque mural]

that was the initial question

[sleek stone]

havent do the daily and its almost reset

[somber depot]

They do in most situations unless there's an issue on your end

[arctic yarrow]

it does. but ur gen rate is slower and cap is higher. so liquidvestment becomes slower

[somber depot]

WHY

[arctic yarrow]

liquidvestment is affected by liquid gen speed

[somber depot]

Lemme see ya progress

[sleek stone]

been busy

[arctic yarrow]

155% double cluster

[opaque mural]

ok lets do a test. here is what's in it now. lets see in 1 hour.

[arctic yarrow]

[somber depot]

Uh, Bubo?

[sleek stone]

and master class merit is gonna gone in few days while busy

[arctic yarrow]

bro waiting for natural gen

[somber depot]

I'm genuinely crine

[somber depot]

I'm so sad that I can't afford the singed tome upgrade

[arctic yarrow]

its prolly gonna increase by 2-3 for either one

45% is very little when ur in single digit/hr

[somber depot]

Oh yeah I started working on my DR multi in rams with AC

Lemme show ya the progress

[sleek stone]

im almost 600x on ram farm

[arctic yarrow]

[sleek stone]

not gonna ask for fazer dr in ram

[somber depot]

From 1.068 to this

[arctic yarrow]

wow. more than me

[sleek stone]

ooohh almost look like mine

[somber depot]

1.5x is gonna take like a full week

[arctic yarrow]

1.081x is whats mine at

[somber depot]

Lemme see

[somber depot]

You have 800+ DR don't you

[sleek stone]

rn on daily cluster and its 1frame/3 second

later when i can screenshot

[arctic yarrow]

901.16x

im still missing ice guardian obols/hyper obols

only on dice and magma obols

[somber depot]

I have two ice guardian obols

And two hyper DR obols

[sleek stone]

i got none hyper dr

luck is cruel

[arctic yarrow]

i have 1 hyper

hyper MK

[sleek stone]

lamp

[opaque mural]

i dont even have enough salts to upgrade to next weapon, let alone worry about my liquid regen

[arctic yarrow]

then u shouldnt worry about the liquidvestment yet. its max upgrade is 99%

[somber depot]

[arctic yarrow]

im surprise u put that on personal

[somber depot]

It's just luck

[arctic yarrow]

and not family slots

[arctic yarrow]

[somber depot]

I'm maxing out afk gains and damage for getting to the last map and DK was cluster farming

[arctic yarrow]

i see. make sense yeah. im just waiting on everyone to break into last map too. everyone gonna hit lvl1k soon

[somber depot]

What's your xp multi?

[arctic yarrow]

those juicy legend points are gonna be so good

[somber depot]

Your second DK isn't 1k?

[arctic yarrow]

its very wonky lol. since im at ram and i have ww medallion

[arctic yarrow]

i dont active on that. he is my printer talent boy

[somber depot]

Weirdo

[somber depot]

No like without multi's

[arctic yarrow]

what i mean is with the super talent

he is the one with super talent on utility stuff

[somber depot]

Be like me

[arctic yarrow]

my orb just refreshed gimme like 4 mins

[somber depot]

Bet

[arctic yarrow]

i couldnt care about making them around the same levels when everyone is gaining lvls at different rates cus of different kph

i only did that when everyone afking skills

easier to make them stay the same

[arctic yarrow]

btw before i even started pushing crabs. my other dk was at 900 while the one im active with already broke 1k

those are just passive levelling

not even daily crystals

i let crystals hit on ram and get those clusters

[mystic vigil]

love turning my damage numbers on and immediately hearing my fans spin over all these numbers

[signal root]

Cc

[somber depot]

I'm not at guardians yet

[somber depot]

This is true abuse

[arctic yarrow]

i have 2 locks left

[arctic yarrow]

at town

[somber depot]

You know how much more expensive PC parts are because NVIDIA and Micron decided to be lil bitches and sell into AI

[arctic yarrow]

at rams lol

[somber depot]

I have 3 but it's really only 1 because DK is outta there in two days max, same with DB but SB is gonna take a while

[arctic yarrow]

oh those are without the exp robe. but i am using the exp wings cus its also the dr wing

[hollow cave]

oh yea in regards to exp is there another threshold where it changes suffix or is it just however much mx you have

[true hamlet]

not far enough to know

highest atm is like 2.5Mm

[hollow cave]

ah I see

[true hamlet]

guess we'll see when someone hits 10Mm

[hollow cave]

yea

only at 1029Mx myself so no where close (well at that with medallion, notably lower without)

[somber depot]

Bro someone gimmie the new pets plus the snake ( I was upcountry)

[opal needle]

the snake is obtained only with the blue candle on 25 and 26

[hollow cave]

a tradeable christmas snake is extremely rare to come across

I think only a small amount were given out by lava on a whim in general chat (and possibly some other times)

[bleak stirrup]

How do you do a coin flip for the troll in W4?

[opaque mural]

its a skill from journey man

[bleak stirrup]

oh, so I can't complete it's task since I'm not on the journeyman.

[opaque mural]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

[pseudo storm]

Is there a link to a construction priority list? so far i've been doing library > multi kill > salt

[silent grove]

how much line width is too much line width?

[true hamlet]

clearly not enough

[sleek elm]

Hi, do these have a max level?

[primal mountain]

is account wide skill like shared belief active if we put it on inactive/2nd preset?

[opal needle]

no, so keep going until it takes 7 trillion years, bye

[compact pagoda]

u aint leaving

[opal needle]

yes, im not

[arctic yarrow]

lvl20

[arctic yarrow]

gotta be the active preset when u switch out

[pseudo storm]

Is there a prio list for constructions lvl ups?

[arctic yarrow]

not really. just upgrade what u can that takes a reasonable amount of time

other than the cost cruncher i guess? u want that max out. then everything else

[pseudo storm]

got it, thank you

[glad apex]

How does this work? Do i kill the mon 115 times?

[sleek elm]

You need to use a splicer in world 1, you can buy one at the w4 town shop, equip it, and when you afk for X-amount, on your afk info there's that green splice icon, if you click on it: You lose all drops, You gain green DNA to upgrade

Tip: Go to frog map w1 and do a 1hr candy with your splicer equipped, splice the stuff and see

[stable mantle]

Heyo
Anyone got a balloonfish pet they would trade for the new Santas little helper pet?

[glad apex]

Ok

[lucid flame]

erm. is this new

or did i just accidentaly find it

[arctic yarrow]

very old. but u cant complete its quest cus we have the dig for christmas event

hold off doing it until after event ends

[glad apex]

I did, i used 4 candys and its still at 14 for the frogs

[sleek elm]

Did you also see that green splice thing in your AFK-menu? (And did you click it)

[arctic yarrow]

did u press the dna icon nex to the afk window?

[glad apex]

Wow

[somber depot]

Holy neglect , this new sample is base form vman

[forest rain]

Merit from W1 related to bag applied. How does it work in case if bag №# already applied on first character, but not the rest? Just use on any and it would affect every character because #1 char have it already?

[arctic yarrow]

if bag is applied to 1st char. everyoen gets it. but only for what the merit stated. other bags afterwards needs to be manually added for everyone

[glad apex]

Thats crazy it blended in so well

Lol now where did it go? I did the thing and it still 0

[arctic yarrow]

it should be added. go back to the pet u want to upgrade

[forest rain]

How people/content creators says it's not important then. Like I really need to re-stock everyday for one single bug from w1. -.-

[forest rain]

but only for what the merit stated.
Does 'BCEHF' in that case means?.. The names on packs?

[arctic yarrow]

even after u got the bag on everyone. the bag at w1 shop next to the boss is gonna be a frequent shop u visit

[forest rain]

So many packs still need to be crafted/used manually?

[glad apex]

I didnt pick them up xD

[forest rain]

@arctic yarrow eww :(
thanks.

[arctic yarrow]

also yes

[forest rain]

Damn, i threw away so many packs

[arctic yarrow]

those are still cheap. u prolly have way more coins that what is needed to rebuy them

[lucid flame]

dig for the chrismas event?

[arctic yarrow]

im in w7 and i have such low coin multi that i can maybe buy 1 w7 bag per day

[forest rain]

I think i completed this one 🤔 during this event. Or at least one stage (i don't remember how it's given)

[arctic yarrow]

there is a daily dig that gives u alot of giftmas boxes

[arctic yarrow]

one of the questline requires u to dig. it cant be done cus christmas dig is active rn

[lucid flame]

isnt that normal?

[forest rain]

Yep, checked, did only #1 quest from the guy

[arctic yarrow]

no

[lucid flame]

i thought that exists everyday

[arctic yarrow]

[lucid flame]

how do i get this card

is it from the tree guy or smth

[arctic yarrow]

check ur beans map

oh wait lemme check

i haven't check w1 card in so long lol

[lucid flame]

k

[arctic yarrow]

yeah no. i was right. check ur beans

[lucid flame]

the other portal?

[arctic yarrow]

yes

[mossy anvil]

[lucid flame]

kk

[sonic sage]

not true

[rocky roost]

What’s the best way to farm w3 boss keys?

[sonic sage]

you can type DIG

[arctic yarrow]

bloque map. snowpile on top right platform. drop a bucket of slush(u can craft it) it will summon w3 miniboss that drops the keys

[arctic yarrow]

go on

[sonic sage]

nothing to go on about, you just spread misinformation. dig is for event; DIG is for treasure hunt, which makes it a completable quest

[arctic yarrow]

sure. prove it

[rocky roost]

Yeah but that’s x times a week. That’s never enough keys for me to farm for cards

Collosuem would probably also work but then I have the issue of needing to farm collesuem tickets

[arctic yarrow]

no choice but to just do it that way

[somber helm]

Then don't farm those cards yet. You'll be able to get thousands of keys wach week from the snowpile later on, as well as much higher card drops.

[arctic yarrow]

u do get more keys with more dr. so thats the only other way to get more keys

[rocky roost]

Yeah that’s fair, my dk with 20dr just isn’t cutting it yet. Need to increase it

(no idea how however)

[arctic yarrow]

just keep playing

[rocky roost]

True, I genuinely think when I get w7 (soon ish) the gallery will up my dr massively with all the name tags

[arctic yarrow]

w5,6 and 7 is where most dr is coming from

some in w4 from shiny pets

[somber helm]

Just keep playing, there are many sources of DR. Like, you can buy 4x +500% in W7 for legendary points. And keep lighting the glimmerwick candle, the nametag is a 1.2x multiplier.

[true hamlet]

W3 has secret set which feeds into gfood effect hehe

[arctic yarrow]

ah true. the secret set

[rocky roost]

Where from w5 and 6? I’m there already

[arctic yarrow]

which definitely doesnt require a w6 glove

[arctic yarrow]

summoning, hole

emperor wins bonus

[rocky roost]

I gotta start looking into shiny pets tbh. I’ve been abandoning breeding the whole time

[arctic yarrow]

also minichief card and emperor card

[rocky roost]

I could technically craft the whole secret set I think my gfood just isn’t the best yet. But soon I get chocy and then I can comfortably farm them

[arctic yarrow]

w5 ancient golem card, honestly hole has alot of dr sources

if i remember right how much gloomie colony destroyed and sanctum lvl both affect dr? measurer has dr calc based on how many golem killed

monument rewards

mainly justice for dr

[rocky roost]

I should do some more hole stuff also, I’ve just been slowly doing it

[arctic yarrow]

it ramps up when u have the gloomy mushroom cavern unlock. get those villager statue by afking everyone there

then dragon statue is a huge boost

[true hamlet]

Grotto 17 Sanctum 46 is the golden standard fr

[arctic yarrow]

im stuck at sanctum 24

[true hamlet]

Gotta go click moree

[pseudo storm]

Should I push to unlock MC, focus on secret class, or do what exactly? Just unlocked the 3rd divine

[lucid folio]

Whaaaat thats nowhere to get stuck dude keep pushing

Its easy until 30

From 30-35 its a fking grind and 36+ i wouldnt even bother

[arctic yarrow]

after i finish unlocking guardian

[lucid folio]

Thats not golden standard 💀😂 i mean maybe for ultra endgame but not for normal players

[opal needle]

what infinite summoning are you at, i need a high number of summoning bonuses to motivate me to do summoning

[lucid folio]

Im at 316 go push

[true hamlet]

ew 316, is this newplayer chat?

[lucid folio]

🙃😭

[arctic yarrow]

i uhh. ill just leave

[lucid folio]

no you stay here and PUSH

[arctic yarrow]

I AM PUSHING. IM PUSHING CRABS

[lucid folio]

PUSH P

[arctic yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hampter-gif-9138029819265344336

[opal needle]

endless summoning ey

wait do i dump all essence into more essence gain, or damage?

[lucid folio]

Crabs? Oh w7? Im doing that sht afk im not standing there for weeks looking at those stupid crabs 😭😂

[arctic yarrow]

im also doing it afk lol. 2 locks left

[lucid folio]

I got 6 left

[arctic yarrow]

im just doing active cluster in the meanwhile

[lucid folio]

[true hamlet]

I got uhh.. nevermind

[lucid folio]

Ye ye u got all of them in the cave

[true hamlet]

vman is a free pass

[lucid folio]

Oh truee bcs of his skill

Hmmm maybe i will push him active

[arctic yarrow]

my ac will be done in uhhh

5 and a half hours

[lucid folio]

Oh damn nice

How many kills are you getting on ur afk info?

[arctic yarrow]

14m

yes. i have been here for a few days after i use the mc candies

got both ac and ww to w6

[true hamlet]

14m

[lucid folio]

i get 1.3m

[true hamlet]

[lucid folio]

stoooop boolying

[true hamlet]

let's see...

||no worries I pushed to crabs with just 19m kph||

[lucid folio]

are you getting multikill?

[round pulsar]

this game sucks

[lucid folio]

does anyone have the tachyon image of where to farm which tachy?

[opal needle]

my pufferblob kph is 600k

[alpine scarab]

hi

[arctic yarrow]

not sure

[arctic yarrow]

no multikill. not enough dmg.

[lucid folio]

How the heck are you getting that many kills per hour then.. whats ur afk rate?

[arctic yarrow]

before u say its because of ac robe. i would have 7m still

afk gains rate

[lucid folio]

I will compare it in a minute

[lucid folio]

Def higher than mine

[arctic yarrow]

@true hamlet show afk gains rate

[true hamlet]

whyyy

[arctic yarrow]

i could push it maybe. if i get the blue icecream pendant & the clock wings from my db

[true hamlet]

woah big

[arctic yarrow]

this is funny. my crabs has more hp cus of my prayers

and somehow i still have more kph

[true hamlet]

hmm

[lucid folio]

ye i will look into prayers and then i will send an updated screenshot

[true hamlet]

all of you making me feel naked

[arctic yarrow]

im not even using the more kills prayer for less dmg

[true hamlet]

why the wings and robes

[lucid folio]

why dont you have fibers of absence equipped tho?

[arctic yarrow]

what does that do again?

[lucid folio]

+177% progress for opening portals

[arctic yarrow]

and the negative?

[lucid folio]

-89% dmg

but you can still one shot

[arctic yarrow]

yeah thats prolly why

[lucid folio]

i have the same dmg as you and i can one shot them after equpping it

now i got this

[opal needle]

is it possible to open rams portal in AC with only 10% hit chance?

[arctic yarrow]

ur just making me unlock faster

[lucid folio]

ur welcome

[lucid folio]

Yes it is but i would suggest trying for atleast 15-20%

[arctic yarrow]

eh. ill change it later for when i switch robe to someone else. i have other games to play

[arctic yarrow]

no storage

too many wings

wings and robe rack when?

[true hamlet]

:v naked as ever

[arctic yarrow]

only 3 of my chars is not naked. eventho i have 2 more robe

[opal needle]

k thx

[loud forge]

Which map is the best to farm for Crystal Custard/w4 crystal mob? want to get the cards for lab

[bleak stirrup]

Tips to tower placements the first ~20+ waves of Frosty Firefight (W3 Worship)?
I'm having issues with stuns

[cold kindle]

I got 2 tags from Christmas I'm very happy 😊

[arctic yarrow]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[bleak stirrup]

thanks!

[faint crystal]

hello jollof

[mint rivet]

Greetings everyone

👋🏿

finally 38%

[strange hollow]

is signed contract just super rare???

[mint rivet]

its a quest reward

[strange hollow]

yeah it says im supposed to get 4 drops from penguin but ive been here 2 hrs and havent got 1

[mint rivet]

new hat

[mint rivet]

wait what are you talking about?

[mint rivet]

its a 1/120 drop, they only drop from penguins you kill actively, not while you're gone

[strange hollow]

yeah

i havent afkd it cause the quest said not to

guess im just giga unlucky

can i boost the drop rate with cards?

[mint rivet]

if you are at 0/4 progress, you can try forfeiting and reclaiming the quest

[strange hollow]

That did the trick

[strange hollow]

thanks 🙂

[mint rivet]

np

[median jungle]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[woeful karma]

ello other bean

[sleek stone]

Yo what happen to meme_bean?

Didnt see this bean in a while

[woeful karma]

he exists still but isn't very active iirc?
at least not I here

memebean fembean redhead

[faint crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/meowscarada-sniffing-floragato-pokemon-cute-gif-2107339067610317337

[tight coyote]

Is this "unique" mind games? Or does this just mean beat him 20 times?

[woeful karma]

ah yes enclose all the horny people in the same place
sounds smart

[woeful karma]

beat troll a other 20 times

ello funkii

then don't send one.

[faint crystal]

?

[woeful karma]

they are just being an idiot I assume

[faint crystal]

probably yeah

[faint crystal]

hiiiiiiiii

[woeful karma]

how goes the grind?

[faint crystal]

its.... weird

idk what to do other than grind clusters so im doing plunderous mobs

[woeful karma]

hell yeah someone else to share ethe suffering!

I took a break onnplunderous mobs tho
currently pushing breeding
once I get done with that I'll probs go back to plunderous mobs

how close to 1m are you?

[faint crystal]

😭

[woeful karma]

oh...

well we all start somewhere!

I was there for a point in time myself

[faint crystal]

i did 12k in 2 days, like 15 hours in total

[woeful karma]

fwiw

I'm only at like 297k/1000k

it's a long grind

[faint crystal]

yeah....

[woeful karma]

I wonder if drams is better the choccie fornme
or if undesath in w4 town makes it better/worse

[faint crystal]

just get to world 7 🙏

[woeful karma]

oh lmak

I thought you were doing it whilst grinding crystal clusters you said

[faint crystal]

nono, i said instead

[faint crystal]

what else

[woeful karma]

ohhhhh

my bad

[faint crystal]

although i could get a good amount of statues

[woeful karma]

I thought you were doing both at the same time

[faint crystal]

but very low

[woeful karma]

also btw why mace crabs ?

[faint crystal]

3 platforms, each platform has the density of rams

[woeful karma]

wouldn't choccie or dram have better density n whatnot or line of sight?

[woeful karma]

oh damn

[faint crystal]

theres like 50 mobs at the same time

[woeful karma]

sounds hella

[faint crystal]

its huge

[woeful karma]

you know some idleon players can't read

[faint crystal]

highest density map ever

[woeful karma]

ill get there eventually

[faint crystal]

ehh i thought it looked denser

[woeful karma]

still quote a few mobs

ah Rip I must away

I will be back eventually

(no clue when, maybe after work)

but until then
best of luck with the grind 🦾

[faint crystal]

hope your shift goes fast and smooth, take care

[honest cradle]

getting sneaking slots to level 3 is ridiculous

[topaz vector]

Hello peeps, I’ve just been looking in tips and tricks for a spice setup but unfortunately can’t find one, anyone able to help a spice addict out ?

[foggy dagger]

Im confused about the 3d printer.
I got the sampling skill > use it while afk at green mushrooms and it says "30 spore caps sampled" > i check 3d printer and its still empty and i have no option to add anything?

what am i doing wrong

[outer socket]

What is a lvl of ur 3d printer ?

[foggy dagger]

lvl 1/10, just started building it

[outer socket]

U can take print with 1st character that will be shown in 3d printer

[somber helm]

Sample with your first char until you've upgraded your printer in construction to support more chars

[outer socket]

All slots are serial wise

With ur character

[foggy dagger]

oooh i see now im on the wrong character yea!

thank you~

[honest cradle]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[honest cradle]

go to pets section on bottom

[topaz vector]

Thank you!

[honest cradle]

world pins are usually the place to look

[topaz vector]

Appreciate this, still finding my way around here

[wary crag]

what's a strat for the roots TD

that'll get me to waves 100+

[lucid flame]

does anyone know if the action frenzy book is good or not

[small glacier]

pretty much every map that has 1 platform above another long platform has the strat of getting a void somewhere at the start to get rid of specials, then fill the long platform with kraken-kraken-kraken-frozone-kraken... repeat for as long as reasonable with your point income, and put 3-4 poisonic elders on the other platform in a way that reaches the start of the long one for dps+1stormcaller for crit chance

[small glacier]

yes

[lucid flame]

for a fighting only preset?

[deep oyster]

Does sesame seed only drop from "in-dungeon" mymics?

[small glacier]

for fighting only? no, but it's a special talent, getting the book unlocks it for all characters on all presets

[woeful karma]

now thays just a downright dogshit idea

[small glacier]

no

[woeful karma]

you too

[lucid flame]

what about for a SKILLING only preset as in like only chopping and no fighitng

[small glacier]

max it out for that

[lucid flame]

and by fighting i meant like including the abillites ofc

[small glacier]

action frenzy only affects skilling speed, not talent cooldown

[lucid flame]

ahh

aight thx alot

[mossy anvil]

ehh, it jumped to t19, was hoping it will stay at 18 so i can put my other t18 ribbon and then jump into 20

[zealous fractal]

what pets do i get for foraging in breeding

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[low parcel]

yo just got my doot yesterday, was wondering how it works with the kattlekruk thing as i only have the first 2 gods unlocked

tyty

yess

🫡

much appreciated

[mossy anvil]

link kattlekruk too to 1 char coz it was bugged and probably still is

thats what u get for fixing stuff

[manic moat]

how to get 20k power statues for this?

[mossy anvil]

Bean crystal farm dk with choco chip

[rare geode]

your gonna have a brain aneurysm when you see w7 statue quest

[mossy anvil]

[manic moat]

yeah i saw zenith requires millions LOL

[rare geode]

yeah

[manic moat]

im not there yet

[rare geode]

I dont try to get it yet but still got like 500k ish

[manic moat]

is there a way to check my crystal spawn chance?
i have chip on my dk.
ill also put some cards

[rare geode]

what is ur layout

[rare geode]

Im not sure if there is proper way to check but think of it like %1 and multply it with your droprate

[fair hare]

IT shows it

[rocky roost]

Okay I need some advice on how to get my first 1m sample. I’m mid w6 but I’m nowhere near a 1m sample I feel like

[rare geode]

and thats how you get bad math

[rocky roost]

Idleon efficiency

[rare geode]

do either wood or bronze

those 2 are easiest

if ur at w6 its pretty realistic for you to get atleast 1m bronze/Bronz/poop color ore

[fair hare]

Copper/Oak

[rare geode]

fk it was copper not bronze I forgor bronze was alloy

[fair hare]

On my screen I can barely tell the difference between the copper and the gold. lol.

[manic moat]

1 in 441
i assume thats low to get 20k power statues

[fair hare]

Yeah, that's pretty low.

There are two groups of cards you can get, poops and..is it genies?

[rare geode]

bronze is basically tin + copper

[fair hare]

Do you have Choco Chip?

[manic moat]

i tried with this deck
i dont really understand how to upgrade cards still
and yes i have chip

my poop and genies need upgrades

[fair hare]

That's about what I run with, only with more stars. You need more cards for more stars. If you look at the cards, they tell you how many for the next star.

[rare geode]

can someone help me

howtf I got 1 in 56 crystal while all other is 1 in 144

[fair hare]

Different card sets?

[arctic yarrow]

po box, card set, star talent

[fair hare]

Mine isn't very high (for this room, lol), 65 or something, and I did manage to get it. Fazer's right, PO Box, plus there is a star talent.

[rocky roost]

So I setup with max gear I can, skilling armor, cards and the just sample? or any other steps?

[arctic yarrow]

im not sure but i think respawn rate also factors into it? so do ur starsigns

[fair hare]

Talking two different things here, the sample and the power statues.

[arctic yarrow]

prayer if u dont have 90% sampling rate

[fair hare]

You need crystal chance for the power statues, but the 1M sample is something else.

[rocky roost]

my sample talent is maxed out so should be fine

[rocky roost]

Huh?

[arctic yarrow]

u can check ur construction in skill tab. it says how much ur sampling rate is

[manic moat]

ok and to get cards just afk on the mob? im at x10 drop rate

[rocky roost]

Yeah, also pop and dice obols (farming those might also be easier when you have chocy)

[arctic yarrow]

pop no. dice maybe. pop doesnt drop from crystalm only gigafrogs

[rocky roost]

Yeah true, I did dice without chocy but when I did dice my crystal rate already was 1/67

Even that was slightly inefficient tho

[fair hare]

I just got up, coffee isn't done and trying to hold two conversations. Not a good idea. lol.

[rocky roost]

You’re good, I figured already just had to reread 😭

[sage mulch]

where does one aquire the "green salts" is it later as you skill in construction?

[arctic yarrow]

refinery

u can see on top left of the refinary ui a 2nd tab

[sage mulch]

it will unlock later i am guessing i have only 3 optios rn red, orange and blue

[rocky roost]

refinery 3rd tier

4th*

[sage mulch]

i dont have a second tab yet.....

[arctic yarrow]

keep upgrading refinery in construction

[sage mulch]

I found it LUL

thanx, it was smaller tab than expected

[arctic yarrow]

[fair hare]

@rocky roost To get the 1M sample, I got every bit of efficiency I could, down to mining tools, mining foods, all the mining special armor, the best pick axe (and upgraded every time I could and he'd use it).

Also, when you run the sample, DO run the mining "attack".

[sage mulch]

100%

[polar geyser]

You know whats really fun, im away for 2 weeks so was planning to log in and do dailies on my phone, only for each time I try to log into a character my game instantly crashes, cant even click the send to storage before its gone

Cleared cache, reinstalled the game on phone, but no luck

Cant wait to lose 2 weeks of dailies

[mossy anvil]

Dont forget to support the game with buying another pack jake

[polar geyser]

[mossy anvil]

its nothing personal, i just hate how nothing works in this game

[fair hare]

Don't mine with the foods, hit once, then use them to take the sample. Also, hit your alchemy bubbles that improve mining/tools. Plus then all the other stuff that was discussed earlier, lol.

[rocky roost]

Okay very close

[fair hare]

Yayyy! Do you have that Sample Prayer?

[rocky roost]

I might need to get it no?

Worth it to upgrade?

[rare geode]

something like this allowed me to get 73m copper

I used skilled dimwit too

[fair hare]

Let me see what mine is at (I don't have the prayer equipped)

[rocky roost]

Finally

[rare geode]

well its not most optimized but for half assed it works pretty good

[fair hare]

Congrats!

[rare geode]

btw I didnt use skilling cards and prob didnt used card pack too

[arctic yarrow]

[rocky roost]

I mainly did it quick and dirty for equinox

[fair hare]

Once I got that (a couple of weeks ago), it started jumping up. I think I'm up to 10 now, and with the output boosts, I am making a bunch of atoms, finally.

[arctic yarrow]

good enough for now. ur gonna hit 1050m in storage before u gonna do another resample

and thats gonna hit atoms/hr

[rocky roost]

I have it locked at 100m for atoms rn but gonna increase it soon enough.

I'm thinking if its worth it to enable the prayer on all characters for more printing even if it tackles exp a bit

[fair hare]

All of my mining/chopping/etc. cards are passives because of the rift.

[rare geode]

tbh you dont need that

[rare geode]

I did rift too some niche ones arent passive tho

[arctic yarrow]

the exp loss isnt multi. its additive. ur gaining it back even more later

[rare geode]

lemme send it 1sec

[rocky roost]

Yeah, it might hit a bit now but im up to 10k+ and some 20k+ class exp on most characters anyways

[rocky roost]

so itll increase sooner than later

[rare geode]

this set is good for skilling

[arctic yarrow]

u can equip prayer and see how much u lose. its very minor lol

[rocky roost]

Only thing it might slightly suck on is that I'm in lab/divnity with some characters currently, although that shouldnt cripple me a lot because I have purmmep

[night oracle]

Wow, another

[rare geode]

I got scammed

[fair hare]

TBH, I got Doot a little while back and that 100% changed my game.

[rare geode]

cant get 78th star

[rocky roost]

I got doot also just am farming lab/dibinity until I get kruk and 70/40

[rare geode]

you can neglect it till some time

until you get some good chunk of xp boost

[arctic yarrow]

fill up 1st 4 slot with copper. turn of auto deposit ore arm. and do some 2-5 min claims on ur beastmaster and easy forge cards

[fair hare]

If you have Doot, I'd set your Atom thingy to 1050.

[rare geode]

oh fuck thanks I forgot about that

[rocky roost]

really?

[rare geode]

its 3862 cards so I didnt want that

[rare geode]

just close it

it auto changes into atom after 1050m

[thorny lake]

Guys u just got my vman now any guide on how to use his speedrun and what the benefit from it i feel it is like minigame

[rare geode]

max "one step ahead"

then give all points into 1-2-5 th skills

nvm not 5th

[fair hare]

@rocky roost My sample is around 14.5m, like I said, but with output boosts, I get 225M. WIth Doot (and free 3D printer progress), it makes lots and lots. Right now I have both of one character set to Copper, and am making 11B per day for atoms.

[rare geode]

first 3 unless Im wrong you can give just 1 point to 3rd one

[rare geode]

wait we get output boost ????

[fair hare]

There are quite a few things that boost output.

[rare geode]

I thought these were sample boost not output

[rare geode]

that explains how I get that many atoms

[rare geode]

where is this

1sec

[fair hare]

In IT.

[sinful gale]

why is it that when i moved to the next map multi kill isnt working anymore?

[fair hare]

Hover over the resource.

[fair hare]

Multikill is per world in the Deathnote. :)

[rare geode]

good question

I have no clue

nvm found it

[fair hare]

That's the bigole mole, which is no longer available.

[rare geode]

I love neglecting my prints

[sinful gale]

I moved from jelly cube bridge to cocoa tunnel and my multikill wasnt there anymore im so confused

[fair hare]

Is your accuracy high enough?

[arctic yarrow]

[sinful gale]

yeah

also the kills/hr is atrocious

[arctic yarrow]

u need more dmg

[fair hare]

Post the other one, and check the accuracy there.

(Definitely need more damage.)

[sinful gale]

here is the previous map

[arctic yarrow]

to get multikill, u need to be doing 2x the dmg of the mob hp if u have enough accuracy

[sinful gale]

i see since i was doing 6m dmg i was doing multikill but now that i need 8m i dont have multikill

[rare geode]

show off smh

[arctic yarrow]

yeah 6.6m dmg. mob has 4m base hp. u need 8m dmg to start seeing multikill

[sinful gale]

damn is that bad or is it just gonna tank my rates?

[fair hare]

See, your accurace on that mob gets you half way through the next multikill bracket. But chocos are harder, so getting less.

[arctic yarrow]

just ur kph suffers

[sinful gale]

now the mission to find sources for dmg xD

[arctic yarrow]

im tiny compared to people with 10k afk gains.

[verbal copper]

Whats the best way to get this done??

[arctic yarrow]

alchemy

[fair hare]

If you search Discord, there's a recommended team for that.

[rare geode]

so can I get 2.45M orb ?

[verbal copper]

Where can i find that lol

[sinful gale]

should i rmeove the curse that gives me accuracy but makes me do 5% less dmg

[arctic yarrow]

if u can still hit the accuracy for it. yes

[sinful gale]

since im overcaping on acc

[rare geode]

if u cant get accuracy use it otherwise its useless

[fair hare]

lol, you are IN the Discord. Let me see if I can find it. :D

[rare geode]

atleast for my current state

[verbal copper]

I play idleon i cant read

[arctic yarrow]

check pins

[sinful gale]

i still dont have enough dmg i cant believe this is my first time needing to find sources of dmg xD

[fair hare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1454445109759184937/image.png?ex=69551190&is=6953c010&hm=d84f2285a99fb3d71efb22f0dae59257c4d948c2ba17654dd5a712cf750a6e4c&

[rare geode]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084967526955499600

[verbal copper]

Thanks!

[rare geode]

dude its literally 4th

[night oracle]

Chat, what are we thinking

[arctic yarrow]

clickers. meals, cards, alchemy

[rare geode]

that might be tier 17 ribbon and I wouldnt know

[sinful gale]

how do i remove that i mistakenly placed that on my first slot and now its stuck on chickens

[arctic yarrow]

u cant

[rare geode]

thats the neat part

[sinful gale]

damn

[arctic yarrow]

u can only upgrade it further

[night oracle]

2x t19

[sinful gale]

grinding this idle skilling is more painful that idleon xD

[fair hare]

I think you can add another one, though, and bring it up to the next step? That's the way the Wiki reads, I think.

[rare geode]

Im trying to get mine to t16

[arctic yarrow]

kaidi

[rare geode]

I got 1 t15 1 t14 1 t13

[rare geode]

then closest should be 9

[arctic yarrow]

u need more coffee kaidi

[rare geode]

smh not even max

[arctic yarrow]

oh sweet summer child.

[night oracle]

Brother...

😭

[mossy anvil]

[rare geode]

get back to cooking

[night oracle]

You haven't a clue...

[arctic yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/people-who-don't-know-vs-people-who-know-those-who-don't-know-vs-those-who-know-gif-18075947697117816471

[arctic yarrow]

scroll back up and see what i said

[rare geode]

ye Im at max 90 yet

accidently boosted my cooking shitton 1-2 week ago

[mossy anvil]

u cant remove ribbon that is already placed on meal

[fair hare]

What I'm talking about is not adding a HIGHER ribbon. You can add the same level ribbon. :)

[rare geode]

like I was barely at 60 then got to 90 except w7 ones

[arctic yarrow]

thats what i replied to. he ask if it can be remove. i said it cant

[rare geode]

let us add multiple t20 ribbons on food

[arctic yarrow]

[rare geode]

we need to get that 100k gold food boost

what bonus does t20 give

[fair hare]

lmao. My highest ribbon is 13, so...not an issue.

[fair hare]

I was responding to your post that just said "you can't". :P

[rare geode]

if you only use daily ones it would take 13 years or something to get t20 (all daily ones being t1)

I forgot someone did the math

[fair hare]

I get extras every day, but still would take a lonnnnnng time. lol.

[rare geode]

outrageous long time basically

[lyric perch]

can someone help me with boosting accuracy im having alot of trouble with progressing thorught the game

[sinful gale]

should i time candy this and rush to world 5 or should i just ride this out

[rare geode]

yes rush

you wont regret it like me

[lyric perch]

can anyone help;/?

[small glacier]

yeah, unlocking the town skills is going to be useful

[fair hare]

Might want to work on your attack/KPH first?

[rare geode]

just ask we might be able to

[sinful gale]

i have enough now xD

[lyric perch]

i did

[sinful gale]

i dont know how but i did it

[lyric perch]

i asked if anyone can help me boost accuracy

[rare geode]

oh what statue ur in

[lyric perch]

gold

[pliant aspen]

the troll has stolen 5 keys just by glitching

[rare geode]

wth I meant status not statue

well its on me

[lyric perch]

can i have more detail when you mean status

[rare geode]

your stats what world/map ur in etc.

[small glacier]

shaquracy bubble, amarok armor set, bullseye statue, vault

[rare geode]

mainly those tho

[fair hare]

!accuracy

[lyric perch]

im in world 4

[rare geode]

yes I agree lava lad definetly " "

[lyric perch]

my stats are js for pushing

[pine meadow]

whats the best character to use to farm chizoar scarf

[rare geode]

realistically vman

he got highest luck stat + even skill for rare drops

[arctic yarrow]

same. need more higher tiers daily

[lyric perch]

so telchine got any ways to boost accuracy?

[arctic yarrow]

holy slow internet. i shouldnt update my gacha game in the background

[fair hare]

ooh, what's the one in the lower right.

[pliant aspen]

stamps

[small glacier]

pretty much every boss is recommended with Vman as long as it has enough dmg to do it

[arctic yarrow]

t14 iirc

[lyric perch]

im not trying to farm that more cereal man

[rare geode]

I would suggest stamp/skill lvls too

I neglected most basics but had no issue with accuracy

[lyric perch]

damn

[fair hare]

#bot-commands message

[rare geode]

oh u can use "main stat" ones too

[sinful gale]

woah i got these chef rings are these good for my bb

[lyric perch]

im at genies and i have 3k accuracy

[pliant aspen]

what...

[lyric perch]

yup

2 days for donuts man

[rare geode]

if ur using warrior to push you can use upgrade stone on mage

[rare geode]

Im pretty sure you got some underlying issue tho

it feels too low

[arctic yarrow]

!accuracy

[arctic yarrow]

check what ur missing here

[small glacier]

they are good for any char you leave afk cooking

[manic moat]

can i just drop from my storage for this quest

[rare geode]

oh yeah @lyric perch use accuracy cards those might help

[lyric perch]

i do

[rare geode]

nope

[lyric perch]

i think its js my farming abilities

[manic moat]

so i need to wait until there are 81 items on the ground

[lyric perch]

yup

[rare geode]

brb

[lyric perch]

is journeyman/vman good for farming cards?

[glad apex]

I unlocked the fishing spot in equinox valley, but no fish
Does it need to be lvl one foe the fish to spawn

[sinful gale]

man world 4 is like a prison for pushing maps

the kill amount just gets worse and worse

[fair hare]

Is that the quest based on the length of your name? I never did finish that quest, and the guy I was doing it only had 4 characters in his name.

[arctic yarrow]

click the waterfall

[glad apex]

It did no working

[arctic yarrow]

[fair hare]

Did you check your AFK screen? May need more efficiency?

Or maybe leave Equinox and come back or something?

[manic moat]

yeah
i have 9 letters so 9x9=81

[arctic yarrow]

ah shit true. might not have enough efficiency

i just assume people are blind sometimes

[glad apex]

Idk, ill try lvling it up as well rq

[arctic yarrow]

oh that quest. u can drop from storage but individually. not 81 at once.

so u need to drop 1 item 81 times

[pliant aspen]

efficiency shouldn't matter for equinox fishing

[fair hare]

I should go back and try it again, but it was so annoying that I gave up. 🤣 I was so careful dropping stuff, but I just couldn't seem to get there.

[manic moat]

yeah fuck that, im doing it like this
i keep also dropping the presents from the event which kinda mess up my count as well lol

[night oracle]

Where skilled dimwit prayer

[fair hare]

I kept trying dropping without killing anything.

[arctic yarrow]

i thought it was another quest about dropping item

[fair hare]

He's not farming.

[arctic yarrow]

too many quest like that early worlds

[night oracle]

It should just always be on smh

[pliant aspen]

should just be able to spam ctrl and level up

[fair hare]

I've been working on levels for him, so I'll take every extra point I can get.

[night oracle]

The reduction from the prayer isn't noticeable

[arctic yarrow]

u get so much skill exp gains, the reduction from prayer is prolly -0.01x of the total

[fair hare]

I did that with my 8th char because someone suggested it, and it worked great I tried it with 9 and 10, and I swear the amount required changed or something, because they made no progress until I got some levels on them.

[pliant aspen]

hmm thats hella weird

[fair hare]

lmao. It was...annoying.

[arctic yarrow]

oh. my gacha finish downloading. im gonna dip

[fair hare]

One of the many things I've whined about in this game. He keeps making it harder in some ways the newer you are, I swear.

[slender jacinth]

Is there a way to get shiny quickly in trapping? I need to craft new traps but I'm really short on shiny. >_<

[small glacier]

beastmaster talent for getting shiny chance for trapping levels+shiny boost food+20min traps

(have to do it on your beastmaster for the talent to work)

[lyric perch]

ok its got to a point where i cant progress any more my elemental sorcerer has a 7% survival rate at genies someone PLZ help me

[pliant aspen]

farm^

[slender jacinth]

Is it only when you set traps at Beastmaster that you automatically harvest trapping?

[pliant aspen]

or be a chud and use candies

[lyric perch]

i barely have any gng

[pliant aspen]

how much play time do you have?

[small glacier]

you have to collect the traps with beastmaster(should work with traps of other characters through trap drone), also forgot to say it first, but you also want the shiny prayer that makes you get a bunch of shinies at once in exchange for lower shiny chance

[lyric perch]

@pliant aspen i have 139 play time hours

[pliant aspen]

i have double that and im barely licking w6

whilst also whaling

you legit just need to farm

[lyric perch]

kk

[sinful gale]

how do i get the sukka foo stamp?

[wind hatch]

sesame seed worth greenstacking?

[fair hare]

Once you have the Trapper Drone you can set them/delete them/collect them with anyone, but best results collecting with BM. The Automation Arm will only collect automatically once a day or something, so I don't rely on it, but it'll harvest all traps whether set manually or set through BM or set through the drone.

[fair hare]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Sukka_Foo Level-up gift bubble

[crimson prawn]

Hi guys! Just passing by to thank you all for the support and for leaving upvotes on the suggestion about improving the game’s performance. The suggestion reached 120+ upvotes, which is fantastic!

For those who didn’t have the opportunity to check it out, I’ll leave the link here as well. It’s a bit technical, but for non-technical folks, the main idea is to prioritize fixing overall performance issues (lag, FPS drops, and cluster drops) over releasing new content.

Here’s the link to the suggestion:
#player-suggestions message

See you, and again, thank you so much!

[mossy anvil]

already did

@faint crystal i claimed 60h on bloonfish and no luckiest lad, u scammed me

[faint crystal]

i took your luckiest lad 😎

[mossy anvil]

[manic moat]

how do i do capital p's quest? i dont understand it

[fair hare]

The first one?

[fair hare]

Or...some info here: https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Capital_P

[manic moat]

ok got it now, thanks

[hallow arrow]

is it worth it to time candy cards for sampling?

a lot of my % all stat cards are 1 or 0 star lol

[fair hare]

Which cards are you talking about?

(For cards, it feels like I always get tons more active than AFK/Candy.)

[hallow arrow]

like mama troll or bamboo spirit

[fair hare]

Like I said, I feel like you get a lot more farming actively. If you check the AFK popup it'll show you how many cards in what amount of time, and it's pretty dismal, considering the number of cards that you need to level. Maybe try an hour AFK, check the cards, then active for a little bit and compare?

[hallow arrow]

yea thats a good idea ill try that

[fair hare]

This is my River Spirit AFK. Pretty sure I could do better with ES actively, or whatever. I DID have luck, when I was farming droprate (Mr. Brightside) cards AFKing with several people for, say, 15 minutes and then checking them regularly, if that makes sense. Was grindy, but helped. lol.

[hallow arrow]

yea i checked my river spirit i get like 280 per 1 hr candy and now im checking my active afk

but my active afk is on my dk so im not sure if that's the best class to afk with?

[fair hare]

Wow, if you are getting 280 cards per 1 hour candy, you are way way way ahead of me, lol. So probably disregard most of what I said and do your tests. :P

[hallow arrow]

haha im not that far ahead - like mama trolls i only get 94 or something

not really worth a candy for me

[rocky roost]

A big issue with idleon is the “engine” it’s made in. Stencyl gives a lot of limitations. (This is also coming from a software dev I also looked into this)

[fair hare]

All of mine are like...1 card in 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, whatever AFK. I think a few are even worse.

[rocky roost]

Talk to the npc again

[fair hare]

Change maps for a sec, maybe? Or cloudsave?

Yay!

[fair hare]

My Mama Troll 🤣

lol

[hallow arrow]

haha ive just been grinding like every other mech after rushing w6 and i finally am at a point where i have good drop and multikill for w6 so im going back to get cards

i just got into w7 but im really behind on equips and sampling so im trying to get some items to help with that

[fair hare]

Well, lol, you may be better off AFK. You can see why active works better for me. Let me know how the test works out. :)

[mystic vigil]

i'd probably get to 4* and stop if you're getting 280 per hour honestly

5*+ takes way too long

yo

[fair hare]

He's got a bunch of 0s and 1s, apparently :)

[mystic vigil]

awesome i'm doing w4 td

this shit is so boring

put it on gallery for more drop rate

[faint crystal]

g stacks fully done

[rocky roost]

Wait did you already have the cape or did you just drop it

[hollow cave]

it occurs to me, what did you do for the max health ones I completely forgot to do them

[strange hollow]

am i missing something next to construction here?

[hollow cave]

gaming, W5

[strange hollow]

ahhh ok

im still in w3

[hollow cave]

below Bubba is sneaking (W6) and below Arcade is Spelunking (W7)

[crimson axle]

how do this? if this respawn soo fast

[faint crystal]

i genuinely cant remember, was probably world 5 or world 6 collo

[mystic vigil]

frost omnipotent is big

[hollow cave]

are you using speed potions

both kill count things (like orb) and all mob kills people early on struggle with speed not realizing how notable it can be for clearing

it doesn't matter for damage but if someone is having an issue killing things they may just not be reaching them

[manic moat]

can anyone send me the worship tower defense guide? cant find it

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[mystic vigil]

nice I should reprint my stuff lol

[manic moat]

awesome thanks

[mystic vigil]

I went downstairs to eat I'll show later

gngn

[fair hare]

I don't think I understand drops in this game. Why are pearler shells so hard to get? It says 1:50k (and that's not counting DR), and I don't get anywhere NEAR that. I've gotten 1 in like...the last 15-20 minutes active. (If I do a one hour candy, I kill 2m and it gives me 4.)

I feel like I'm missing something critical and obvious. lol.

[hollow cave]

your listed afk kills are not relevant to drops, your afk real kills are, which are kind of annoying to figure

[fair hare]

Ahhhh, let me see what multiple he's getting.

[hollow cave]

Multikill, Kill Per Kill and Kill multipliers all increase your listed killcount but have no impact on drop odds, though multikill will increase the drops of the first item a mob drops

[fair hare]

Does droprate count on something that is not in a bag?

(Not that I have great droprate, but...lol.)

This is my DK, and right now he's at 15x.

[hollow cave]

DR should work normally for all items in or outside as far as I know

[fair hare]

His droprate is 32.48x. His multikill is 15x.

[hollow cave]

there are rare exceptions where DR either doesn't work or just works weirdly (gems from minibosses are unaffected, candy drops from minibosses are either wholly unaffected or modified)

[fair hare]

I should manually kill 6k clammies (as in 6k clicks, so multikill wouldn't come into it) and see if I get 4 pearls on average doing that. Sounds like a PIA. lol.

(That would tell me if it was ignoring DR or something.)

[hollow cave]

for sake of example of the non-linear relationship between kills and shells (the killcount is WAY inflated by kill per kill and multipliers)

DR should be relevant for them as far as I know, 1/50k is just quite rare

[fair hare]

1 per 391 k kills.

(Including multipliers.)

[hollow cave]

yea, in reality mine is significantly higher a ratio than that due to my DR (976.85 in this example)

[wild bane]

lol most of yall should be in endgame chat

[fair hare]

Well, with my sucky droprate, if it is one in 50k, that means every 1500-1600 kills (of a mob on screen, so clicks) I should get a shell, on average.

[fair hare]

W3-W4 is just like that, and we're discussing droprate and multikill, which affects all worlds?

[wild bane]

im in W4 and im lucky if i get 10-12k kills in an hour...and thats with elemental+lab 2x

[hollow cave]

yea in the vein of that, which is pretty slow but that's how paerler shells are

[fair hare]

Questions still get answered.

[hollow cave]

I think I would get evaporated if I went there, the values they have are absurd compared to mine

[wild bane]

fair enough

[hollow cave]

I think some have like quadruple or quintuple my DR even

[fair hare]

And I'm not even halfway through W6 yet, and like have...one finished vial in alchemy, lol. My total W6 summoning battle wins is...wait for it...4. :P

[wild bane]

i think i found out about this game like 4 years too late lol

[pseudo flicker]

Summoning will scale up fast, and the winner bonuses are all fantastic

[wild bane]

i actually downloaded this thinking my favorite mobile idle clicker was finally on steam, but it was a different game

[dry kayak]

Was orb CD tweaked? I have lvl 321 and it times out before I get the ability refresh

[fair hare]

I NEED TO DO THAT! But there is so. much. stuff to do in this game. lol.

[pseudo flicker]

Oh for sure

[pseudo flicker]

This is on steam

[wild bane]

im just trying to push to W5 but these last few stages with 150k+ clears are brutal

[hollow cave]

Orb was adjusted so that its cooldown at minimum is a bit longer than orb by ~12 seconds or so to avoid any overlap cancelling

[wild bane]

no i meant the game i thought this was

[pseudo flicker]

Ahh gotcha

[wild bane]

but i just ended up playing this anyway haha

[fair hare]

lol

[wild bane]

why waste a download

[hollow cave]

not having 100% uptime feels kind of weird but it does help, as prior the orb would come off CD, place itself which reset your orb, then when the first orb expired your orb would reset value again

[dry kayak]

Sad

[wild bane]

i just opened the midgame guide spreadhseet for the first time and almost got vertigo hahah

[pine meadow]

Which boss drops should I be getting? I know chizoar scarf and Kruk obol are 2 but I don't know the rest

[wild bane]

probably shouldnt show it to my GF who just started this and thinks its complicated already

[fair hare]

I am a slow, slow player at this game. There's a bunch of stuff in W1&2 I am way behind on, particularly alchemy. (Finally heading TOWARD progress on that, though.) I don't think I've ever played a game with this many different mechanics/facets.

[wild bane]

yeah it's crazy.. i mean, it's cool...but very daunting as a lowbie

[pseudo flicker]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1416496957865721997 this guide might help point you in the right direction for some skills and stuff

[wild bane]

im sure it feels cool to finally get everything locked in and start seeing your toons blast off exponentially

[wild bane]

hey thanks!

[fair hare]

I'll let you know if I ever get there. 🤣

[pseudo flicker]

Obviously you don’t need to rush W1-W6 in a week, but it’s a helpful guide

[wild bane]

haha i just got all the T4 classes finally unlocked

im still like pre-scrub lightweight

[pseudo flicker]

That’s when the game really starts to open up

[wild bane]

yeah the T4 classes are nice, they feel a lot stronger and elemental is nutso

[fair hare]

I wanted a refinery stamp that was in W5, so I jumped from W4 through W5 into W6, and then have ignored a bunch of the W5/W6 mechanics/bonuses. I don't recommend the ignoring part. lol.

[wild bane]

i like the cannonball guy too

siege master or w/e its callled

[hollow bane]

!fishing

!fishchart

[candid scarab]

Created by TrazCS#7476

[pseudo flicker]

Siege breaker is fun yeah

[wild bane]

breaker, ty

i havent broken the news to my GF that she is going to need more than 1 character to play this yet

took me all night just to walk her through getting her first class

[pseudo flicker]

Oh haha yeah..

I mean the vault helps a LOT with getting through the early phases

[wild bane]

true

i think slamming feathers asap helps too

i spent like 2 days on just that haha

[fair hare]

But just let her know that they will all be DOING stuff without her having to work at that part.

[pseudo flicker]

Yes the clickers are very very nice to have

[wild bane]

yeah i tried to stress that this game actually rewards you for not playing it. she seemed to like the concept

lol

[pseudo flicker]

Fair warning, there is a lot you have to do actively as well especially later on

[wild bane]

oh im well aware

[fair hare]

I lost 80% of my first month in this game actively playing the clickers, lol. I despise Bubba, and am leaving him alone for now. lol.

[wild bane]

it's a balance for sure

[pseudo flicker]

Yeah I’ve given up on bubba for the most part haha

[wild bane]

what is up with bubba...mine is broken af

stuck hard

[hollow bane]

which character should i push thru world 3 with cause ive been doing it with my hunter

[wild bane]

Squire

[pseudo flicker]

I’d do barbarian or squire

[wild bane]

then in W4 switch to elemental

mage

[fair hare]

Bubba is really new, but there's a guide for the beginning of it in Tips and Tricks.

[hollow bane]

im already on the 2nd to last one is it worth to just do barbarian

[pseudo flicker]

Oh if you’re already about to finish world 3 just stay on your hunter

[wild bane]

yeah if you have one built up, just stick with that til W4

[faint crystal]

im happy with this

[hollow bane]

yea my accuracy is the biggest problem though, the number i need to get is 100k kills and im getting 600 an hour 😆

[wild bane]

archer is great for colliseum

[faint crystal]

warrior is best

[wild bane]

that arrow attack is banger for that

[faint crystal]

warriors main attack has aoe

[pseudo flicker]

Buy accuracy in the vault, and also upgrade the shaquracy bubble in alchemy

[wild bane]

archer can wipe the entire platform in one attack

and it has fast CD

[hollow bane]

yea bloaches goin rough ngl im barely getting any

[pseudo flicker]

Technically divine knight is the best for the early colosseums, since orb stacks off kills and the chests benefit from that increased drop rate

[tulip lava]

With 7th char as Maestro, which will be my 8th char?

[pseudo flicker]

Second squire/DK

[fair hare]

You'll mostly be printing them. :)

[hollow bane]

YOU CAN DO THAT?

[pseudo flicker]

Yes

[wild bane]

i havent messed with divine that much yet

[pseudo flicker]

You can print all the resources

[wild bane]

but i will now

[faint crystal]

divine knight is the best for colo

[pine meadow]

You can print em all

[fair hare]

But not the critters, and not the rare drops, and not the worship guys.

[pseudo flicker]

It’s another fantastic active pusher, its respawn mechanic has 100% uptime with only 1 skill point

[pseudo flicker]

True

[wild bane]

im using elemental for my pushing right now, trying to get cards

[pine meadow]

You can print the red frisbee right?

[fair hare]

I realllllly wish you could print the spirit thiingies and the critters.

[pseudo flicker]

It might take a few tries to get the bloach print

[fair hare]

Yep, it's the first drop.

[wild bane]

how are people getting like 100m printing?

[hollow bane]

it says 0 bloaches an hour 🥲

[wild bane]

mine are like 300 if im lucky haha

[pine meadow]

Early game bloaches is such a drought

[pine meadow]

Oh yeah I guess technically it is but it definitely feels like a rare drop

[pseudo flicker]

Yeah..

[wild bane]

its a real sonova bloach

[fair hare]

It's the main drop for that mob, and those are the ones you can't print. But 100% feels like "rare". lol.

[wild bane]

is that the same with the golden glob or whateverr?

or ghosts

[pseudo flicker]

Those are the rare drops that you can’t print

[wild bane]

ok