midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[woeful karma]

you can get like 100x better results then kruk with candy clicking and the only limit is time in a day :(

still
it being passive is the only salvation we get for the agi stat nerf

[limpid bough]

finally getting kruk set

[woeful karma]

also unrelated but did lava fix autoloot yet?
i saw that idleon updated again when i closed and went toreopen it

[limpid bough]

whar

[woeful karma]

tldr you have ot full manual daily boss kills atm

and also some stuff doesn't want to be picked up sometimes it feels like

[thorny zinc]

gg

[woeful karma]

nope... he didnt

[limpid bough]

time to never upgrade my db weapon again bc skull lance is so fire

[silent tide]

Hello question, how do i get the bill brr's vote ?

I did all the quests tho

[hollow cave]

is autoloot only hitting on screen or something?

[limpid bough]

his vote is an item

see if you can reclaim it from quest menu

[silent tide]

oh i forgot about that i could reclaim items

Thanks !

[limpid bough]

np <3

[thorny zinc]

lmaoooo this game is so easy now

[hollow cave]

is that a new color bonus thing?

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[hollow cave]

damn, that's a crazy amount

I only just beat the 4th spelunking boss though so I imagine it'll be a bit before I reach that

[woeful karma]

it does it for W1 W3 and W4 bosses

and as you know for amarok it cant drop off screan

[hollow cave]

how hard are the fights stat-wise, can you blow through all of em or only a couple

[hollow cave]

oh, that's bizarre

[woeful karma]

this actually was an issue in the past funnily enough

but lava fixed it many months ago
no clue why its back but it wasnt like this before W7 drop

[thorny zinc]

everything its pretty easy till you reach 9/10. this is 10/11 and for now its probably impossible

[hollow cave]

DK orb also got broken pretty horribly so not sure what's up with things

[hollow cave]

lmao wow that's abusrd

[woeful karma]

oh? what happened?

[hollow cave]

the duration of the buff for orb (what lets you count up and what prevents auto from re-casting) is capped at hte CD of orb

[bitter venture]

best w4 crystal farm mob?

[thorny zinc]

its not that absurd when u actually see what teal gives XD

[minor scroll]

clammies

[woeful karma]

thats kinda stupid

like very stupid

[hollow cave]

so if you leave it on auto you start placing orbs like halfway through orbs duration, which resets its timer, and then the orb that's already there also resets when it dies

[woeful karma]

that makes orb a lot shittier

[wraith timber]

which cave do u get teal from

[hollow cave]

5th I think

[woeful karma]

is wormhole also like that?

[thorny zinc]

these are my base stats now 💀

[hollow cave]

wormhole I presume is fine

[thorny zinc]

yeah 5th

[hollow cave]

damn

I'll hopefully be able to get strong enough within a couple days to get there

how much spelunkingn power did you need to kill the boss?

[woeful karma]

also lava spent so much time on delays n stuff for W7 update and it somehow managed to break quite a few things lol
hopfully he fixes this shit a lot quicker then he did for pristines n stuff

(esp seeing as autoloot is suposed to
yknow, pick shit up automatically)

[hollow cave]

I think I'm only in the low billions currently which is like the bare minimum for entry to it I think

[thorny zinc]

there are also some really wierd changes like the mat for agi bubble

[woeful karma]

i did mention that earlier

[thorny zinc]

aparently the hotdogs dont drop anymore from crystals

[woeful karma]

however that is clearly intentional
god knows why

[thorny zinc]

so its only from shop now

[hollow cave]

Hotdogs don't drop anymore. Not just from crystals I think

[woeful karma]

why not make it like flies or something
yeah its a W2 mat
but sand is fuckin W2 aswell

[thorny zinc]

yeah mb thats what i meant

[hollow cave]

you used to be able to get them from a range of middle of W1 enemies AND the crystals and it's gone from all

[woeful karma]

so that kills golden peanuts right?

[hollow cave]

which is very weird

[woeful karma]

which is needed for beanstalk right?

[thorny zinc]

i had them prepared before the update

[woeful karma]

in a large quanity, yea?

[thorny zinc]

but yeah pretty much

really wierd changes

[hollow cave]

yea you onlny get like 1000-2000 hot dogs per day which is a whopping like 10 golden peanuts per day

[woeful karma]

i never farmed them intentionally
just been buying out all shop shit on a daily basis unless its the food from W4 shop as those are over Gstacked by now

[hollow cave]

so I guess you needa spend like..... 274 years getting hot dogs from the store for the 1M?

[thorny zinc]

easy

[hollow cave]

light work I'll get crackin on that right now

[thorny zinc]

yeah that is so dumb lmao

[woeful karma]

thats about as reasonable as me getting BJP to lv 13 lmao

like hell
ima fuckin stop at lv 4 just for shaman methinks

[hollow cave]

oh that actually reminds me it occurs to me I got 0 BJPs in the 14k balls I had

[woeful karma]

buying out all shops takes a few mins

[woeful karma]

i got one
i would willing trade for purg stalker shatter skull fragment dust things

specifically 17 of them

[hollow cave]

I just want to get a jackpot so I can have the tome score

[woeful karma]

7*
not 17 my b

[hollow cave]

I don't even care about the jackpot rewards I just want the tome to stop haunting me

[red relic]

this just happens when a lot of loot drops at once and autoloot triggers mid drop. been a thing for ages esp with the one vman talent that makes things dorp more loot or w/e

[woeful karma]

same but we need 2 for max score yea?

[red relic]

suffering from success or something

[woeful karma]

something had ot have changed tho

my DR didnt increase that much with the update and i am on DK

[hollow cave]

I mean there's probably no technical hard cap to the score, but the first few will be the bulk of it, I can calculate it real quick actually

[woeful karma]

i went from 25x DR to 30x DR (probably less of a jump but still)

the funny thing though is

with my DK ive done Troll kill runs with 50x DR and it didnt have this problem

lava had to have changed something that caused this to start happening i feel like

[woeful karma]

all i remember is most of it was the fist

and the last like 20-30% of it was from the 2nd or something

[hollow cave]

so 1 gives 45 second is 55 third is 59 and it should keep increasing for a decnet bit

[woeful karma]

my biggest question is
why hasnt lava done anything about it?
especially seeing as it costs money to get
(buying the pig also costs money even if gifted)

its like if i bought the new pack and the robe didnt actually give any stats lol

thats honestly just the biggest question i have rn lol

[viscid pasture]

is there any point in doing pet arena after reaching stage 200?

[woeful karma]

im also hoping this gets fixed by the time i get to W5 bc it isnt an issue for me as of rn lol

[woeful karma]

higher number more dopamine i suppose?

nothing tangible tho

[broken belfry]

whoa the channel names changed

[woeful karma]

oh shit your right i just noticed that

and W5 n 6 got combind

[red relic]

It works it just works too soon which is the problem. he could probably add code for bosses specifically to wait until all loot is dropped but idk seems like a risky play for us to have him do that

[woeful karma]

i would likej to also bring this up

these coins havent been picked up either

even if i walk over them

[red relic]

i have noticed that if you get an afk claim (through like tabbing out or something) it just leaves stuff on the ground that was there before the afk triggered

happens to me when i swap apps on my phone for long enough

[woeful karma]

weird

on the bright side at least im about to have rank 16 orange salt

[mint rivet]

Greetings everyone

👋🏿

some changes here i see

[thorny zinc]

yep

we are midgame now

[mint rivet]

i was midgame before so no change

damn that coral is tough

[thorny zinc]

yeah..

im alr getting tired

[mint rivet]

i gotta unlock the new upgrades, where exactly do you do that?

[thorny zinc]

spelunky 5th cave

oh so 2 of the bonuses here are amber gain and pow

[mint rivet]

can i connect to this?

[thorny zinc]

nah you alr have the bonus

no need to connect to it

[limpid bough]

what the hell is even that

[thorny zinc]

the goat

[limpid bough]

the humble goharut:

[thorny zinc]

wrong

[strong linden]

yesnt

[thorny zinc]

its balzahar

[limpid bough]

where do you get ts

[thorny zinc]

you have doot marion?

[limpid bough]

uhhh no

[thorny zinc]

then forget about it

[limpid bough]

https://tenor.com/view/gulp-cat-gif-27257259

accepting doot donations

[thorny zinc]

balzahar is for doot owners only. but if you reach that map you will have another pocket div link

[mint rivet]

what is balzahar

[thorny zinc]

that yellow god

also dont forget to spend your coins to this mf

[mint rivet]

doot is a lot better than before then

[mint rivet]

oh i never triggered him

[limpid bough]

ok how much stuff did I miss what the hell is that

[mint rivet]

animation scared me

[limpid bough]

why does he look like that

[thorny zinc]

i cant say here

[mint rivet]

yeah its bad, why not make em do it more often

[strong linden]

its world 7 everything is new

[mint rivet]

is this a multi?

[limpid bough]

I wish I could disable the crystal spawns

its impossible to active afk because of the fucking crystals

[thorny zinc]

probably not

[iron isle]

In refinery, I thought we could do 10% and etc. stuff
What about those, I don't see the option anymore.

[thorny zinc]

it got removed

[mint rivet]

oh what w7 thing triggered the crystal spawn rate insanity?

[limpid bough]

removed, its just yes/no now

[radiant bison]

probably addative w/ that one talent in tab 1 based on the wording

this(this is a skilling build so its lvl 0)

[thorny zinc]

i think it alr got fixed

[iron isle]

Turning it on means it won't rank up
Understood

[limpid bough]

mhm

[mint rivet]

that's why i said using past

[thorny zinc]

the problem is it got fixed and now they spawn less than usual

from what i heard it was the legend tree thing with daily crystals

but a lot of endgamers told me its not from there

i dont really know exactly if that was the reason or not

[mint rivet]

haven't seen this in a while

[limpid bough]

crystal spawn toggle in the first update PLEASE LAVA

[thorny zinc]

did you heard about the hotdogs change?

[mint rivet]

no

[thorny zinc]

they dont drop anymore at all

[mint rivet]

are you serious right neow

[thorny zinc]

sadly yes

[limpid bough]

WAHAT

[mint rivet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1253058628898783272/1263055395488927765/bee.gif

[thorny zinc]

good luck buying hot dogs for 200+ years to finish the 1m beanstack

[mint rivet]

both over 1k now, this shi is too expensive

[limpid bough]

https://tenor.com/view/piss-on-you-gif-7520234244466258814

[thorny zinc]

fuck i need to claim trash from now on for the stupid nametag

[mint rivet]

oh yeah

nametag, that is what i will focus on

looks more diverse now

[thorny zinc]

big fish

[mint rivet]

did you reach 60k nothing hrs yet? i am curious to see if w7 bonus is actually there

or if its like gambit

[thorny zinc]

nope sadly

havent used candies yet

[radiant bison]

1-2 more ranks b4 I feel like I can use red salt mindlessly

[thorny zinc]

where is my auto rank feature

[mint rivet]

why did these just randomly appear in my chest

[thorny zinc]

they drop from the mobs and u need them to unlock +100 levels for shrines

[radiant bison]

much better dmg for pushing w4

[thorny zinc]

thanks

[mint rivet]

the 2nd ones i guess?

[radiant bison]

such a great stat name

[thorny zinc]

both of them

[white lintel]

...back in my day... we pushed w4 with like 250k dmg

[mint rivet]

how do i give corals? dropping doesn't work

[radiant bison]

when w4 first released wasnt my damage like end game during w3 era?

[mint rivet]

oh that thing. nvm

[thorny zinc]

i dont know where is the next one. havent reached it yet

[white lintel]

im old but not that old

[thorny zinc]

i fucking love this update XD

[radiant bison]

oh, I actually have an idleon acc from that era, and one from day 1 launch that I quit ~w3 launch, I just reset at some point

[white lintel]

oh new sig figs in gaming

[thorny zinc]

from that era 😭

[chilly wyvern]

how to get sigils?

[mint rivet]

i don't have this one

[thorny zinc]

ohh

[white lintel]

anyone else having issues with chem not growing stuff?

[radiant bison]

fiddled w/ some talent points bc I forgot to use library for em

[rustic slate]

What is the best map to farm statues with dk in w4?

[white lintel]

clams

[rustic slate]

Thanks

[radiant bison]

lets go just barely hit 3x multikill on cans

[thorny zinc]

nope

[white lintel]

if i use a chem on an empty board it only does first evo

[radiant bison]

I cant wait to double this 🤤

nvm just got it

[thorny zinc]

I think that its due to low speed on color mode?

[radiant bison]

what a lab, ill defo have more characters in this once I unlock divinity and put all in div jail

[white lintel]

ig, doesnt happen withlog tho which is weird, and if it grows from a field of 1 evos then they jump to like evo 5-6

[thorny zinc]

Yeah it happens to me too

[white lintel]

should be fixed come isntant gaming return bc there will always be a field so ig its not the worst

[radiant bison]

this 2x kills is why lab is really really good to go for right?

I only like like .5m dmg for removing the barn lmao

first 1k+ mob print!

this is on mman

50k kills/hr should make 12m kills a cakewalk(did the math its 240 hrs so not that fast but its not horrible)

[ember fiber]

Is there a new pinned message for pet battles meta perhaps?

[candid creek]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[stable basin]

Yeah, i can't remember what the inital setup you want is..

[candid creek]

Just click the first link and go to the "Pets" tab

There's stuff there

[somber depot]

Who's liking the new card limit?

I think it's pretty nice considering we needed an upgrade

[candid creek]

Getting normal on any world 7 card is gonna be absolute hell

The new card is never gonna be gotten for world 7

[somber depot]

Shhhhhhh that's not the point

[mint rivet]

the what

[somber depot]

6 star cards

[mint rivet]

oh, yeah they are nice, no clue how to get tho

[somber depot]

Lore boss 3

[mint rivet]

ty

[thorny zinc]

Sorry i aint reading any lore

[somber depot]

Truly the peak of idleon players

[thorny zinc]

[somber depot]

My amber gain is so buns

[thorny zinc]

Gitgud

[somber depot]

1430 💔

[thorny zinc]

I was expecting you to be pro

[somber depot]

I'm barely playing this world twin

Besides I only had 1k gems

Boosted it up to 1813

[thorny zinc]

Oof

I had like 4500 saved

• the new pack and 10k bawlls

[somber depot]

Yeah

[mint rivet]

🐳

[somber depot]

Send me pets or something

Yo dark you have lvl 30 snail right?

[woeful karma]

:D

[honest cradle]

o how bad are the new meals?

Should I be getting cooking speed again?

[woeful karma]

i assume yea

[thorny zinc]

um

its worse than you think

i cant max any meal

[woeful karma]

oh shit we got new meal levels?

i thought we just got 4 new meals

[honest cradle]

I assume from omnipotent

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[true hamlet]

And spelunk

30 from spelunk, 10 from omnipotent causticolumn

[misty shale]

Guys what do I do for breeding

Like what pet loadout for fighting

[woeful karma]

qeustion
what is the difference between 110 and 112?
cost wise i mean

[misty shale]

I have 5 pet slots

[candid creek]

You do !guide in the #bot-commands channel, press the first link, and go to the "Pets" tab

[woeful karma]

thats a preatty large jump :/

[thorny zinc]

we need cooking speed...

[candid creek]

And then choose the best thing there is in the guide that you can do

[thorny zinc]

w1 and w2 done (ignore bob)

[woeful karma]

super talent Vman bone marrow maybe?

idk how big that will be

[thorny zinc]

you cant

[woeful karma]

wait whayt?
why not?

is there restrictions on that feature that i am unaware of?

[woeful karma]

oh that is so ass

[thorny zinc]

you cant any of the low row talents

[woeful karma]

how many talents are "not allowed"

[candid creek]

World 7 mobs are gonna be impossible

[woeful karma]

for all classes or?

[candid creek]

[thorny zinc]

only vman

[woeful karma]

ah

stiull thats pretty ass

[thorny zinc]

mom i want gems
we have gems at home
gems at home:

[woeful karma]

thise are like
the best Vman tallents lmao

[woeful karma]

[somber depot]

HOLY SHIT WE CAN CRAFT CANDIES

[woeful karma]

yeah lmao

we can upgrade then rather

[thorny zinc]

yeah i think its a bait tho

[woeful karma]

2 1h to 1 2h

[woeful karma]

for?

[thorny zinc]

i just dont see any reason to upgrade them

[woeful karma]

less finger strain

[somber depot]

As long as you don't craft all your low levels to high leveled candies it's calm

[woeful karma]

also when using boost food mining

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[woeful karma]

id rather spend 1 mining pearl per 12 hours then 12 per 12 hours lol

[thorny zinc]

fair point xd

[woeful karma]

like i have way too many 1h and 2h

id rather if doing larger projects spend better candy for less irl time clicking it

ill ofc keep a decent amount of 1h and 2h but its still nice when doing mass candying

[somber depot]

Yeah cuz like I could craft let's say half of each lower ranked candy to the tier above it and I'll still be chilling

[woeful karma]

also
makes wasting dumping time candies into fractal easier without draining your best candies

[thorny zinc]

true true

w3 done too (not doing colo yet)

[woeful karma]

which i might consider doing that

[somber depot]

So what if I've used 800 1hr candies to make 400 2hr candies? It's still alright cuz I have spares

[woeful karma]

uhhh

you good IT? XD

[thorny zinc]

lmao

[woeful karma]

[somber depot]

So I use DB or DK to grind out afk cards?

[honest cradle]

New multi is popping off

[somber depot]

[woeful karma]

actually its still broken even after refrsh that isnt good

[honest cradle]

That was almost all my cooking speed in one run lmao

[thorny zinc]

uge

[somber depot]

I love the fact that we can buy 25 slimes in a week now

[limpid bough]

NEW CARD TIER HELLO????????????????

[thorny zinc]

yep

[somber depot]

Yup

[limpid bough]

DUDE

[candid creek]

What?!

[limpid bough]

lemme see it in action hows it look...

[somber depot]

So DK or DB?

[thorny zinc]

thats for my dk

[somber depot]

Yup 25 familiars can be bought from summoning now

[thorny zinc]

tho i think i will do 2 sets of armor

we are losing a lot of dr with the new set

[candid creek]

Damn... Is that something to do with the teal stone?

[somber depot]

I mean for grinding out cards

[thorny zinc]

ohh

[somber depot]

No?

[thorny zinc]

i used dk but both are good

[woeful karma]

holy shit

[somber depot]

Oh yeah new colour coming soon

[candid creek]

Explain then.

[woeful karma]

why is lava giving so many class exp multis
i am genuinely starting to get worried

[thorny zinc]

teal stone is actually insane

[somber depot]

I don't know either :/

[woeful karma]

why is he doing this

[candid creek]

For this world 7 thing

[woeful karma]

ok but it still feels like a lot

[candid creek]

I believe it's every 100 levels on each char starting from 500 or 400?

[somber depot]

Shrine????

[woeful karma]

we went from normal amounts of exp to shit wayyy over this

[candid creek]

Yeah it is, because we need lots of legend talent points

[thorny zinc]

for reaching 9999 per character XD

[woeful karma]

500 iirc

[candid creek]

Fuck yeah

[candid creek]

Nah

[somber depot]

That's so useless

[candid creek]

Cause I got 500 on everyone but my DK which is 600

[woeful karma]

so i have 2 legend points on my players if it starts from 400

[candid creek]

The comments you're making on it are incredibly useless, especially since I can't undo it

[woeful karma]

maybe soon you can :prau

[candid creek]

I think it might just be 500, but you start with a few

[somber depot]

True, honestly he should add a reset button for it next upd

[candid creek]

Nah I'm alright with it mostly

[woeful karma]

also question
brain tired and IT broken for this
do i stop ranking up orange or did i need to rank it up once more?

[somber depot]

How much candy do you think imma use to get w1-4 to card 6

[candid creek]

!refinery

[candid scarab]

The refinery will produce salts on a cycle as long as you have the required materials in your chest when the timer hits 0. In order to increase the rank of a salt in the refinery, you have to let your power bar for the salt completely fill before refining.

To stay salt positive, follow this process. Make sure to grab the merit shop upgrades and always rank up Red and Green salts.

[thorny zinc]

i only used 1 12h per card

[candid creek]

A lot

[thorny zinc]

and even that is def overkill

[somber depot]

So 4 hour is roughly enough

[thorny zinc]

probably yeah

depending on your dr

[somber depot]

My setup is pretty decent

[woeful karma]

ah right so i need to stop orange for now

ty

hmmm
to upgrade or not to upgrade
that is the question

[somber depot]

C emp and n emp in both corners, camarok, ntroll, nchiz, sprouts, ghost guy and bamboo spirit

[candid creek]

Non

[somber depot]

It's pretty useless now that the legend one is available

[woeful karma]

im in W4

also what legend one

[somber depot]

Oh

That's starting to make a whole lot more sense

[woeful karma]

my biggest orange salt expense rn

[somber depot]

W7 whale guy

[woeful karma]

next to blue

yes i gathered that
which upgrade thingy tho lol

[thorny zinc]

crazy how easy this boss is now

[woeful karma]

what makes you say that lmao

[somber depot]

Your refinery, I thought you were a W7 and I was wondering why it was so low but now it makes sense

[woeful karma]

lmao nah
my name says lateW4
then again some ppl have hteir name as a joke

[somber depot]

Yeahhh

[woeful karma]

i am your run of the mill average genuine simple W4er

[thorny zinc]

when w5 zui

[woeful karma]

Stier NSLB proc

[somber depot]

Honestly 1hr TC is overkill

[woeful karma]

sometime after the suposed very weirdly newly teased and made fall event?

lava made 3 fall related puns

which is wierd seeing as it is winter and all now

2 puns but same difference

[woeful karma]

tho honestly idk how true "some time after next event" will be any more

W7 brought a lot of stuff with it

including yummi

[thorny zinc]

yep

[woeful karma]

and as you know
yumi means pepper
and pepper means this

evey 12 normal eggs only gives me like 3% exp
thats a lot compared to before but is still quite low ngl

[candid creek]

So smol so bebe

You still have more breeding levels than my best I think tho

[somber depot]

Who genuinely levels breeding 😨

[woeful karma]

me becasue my shiny leveling speed is fucking ass

[candid creek]

The person who spends ages before going to the next world that's two

[woeful karma]

uhh
thats not right either

is IT dying?

[honest cradle]

Has lava said anything about the chip rotation?

[woeful karma]

i should have jewel bonus

[woeful karma]

i stopped at lv 75 due to no dead dna W5 upgrade plus too hard to raise plus far gap from lv 100 for skill mastery in rift

my breeding exp is doing slightly better now tho

[somber depot]

I assure you that none of this is exactly necessary twin

Just go to W5 you've long surpassed the beginning stage

[woeful karma]

nah i still have foundation left to be built

i would like to enter W5 as a dragon and not a carp XD

[somber depot]

You're a dragon twin

[thorny zinc]

lmao the class xp is wild

every piece of this set has class exp MULTI

[candid creek]

Is there a set bonus for it yet?

[somber depot]

The damage is wilder

[thorny zinc]

yes

[woeful karma]

btw does Gham not effect this?

[candid creek]

Goodness me, that'll be amazing

[somber depot]

I don't think it does

[woeful karma]

not really all skills is it then

back to my bubo and Vman it goes ig

[somber depot]

Where do you get the new souls?

[thorny zinc]

here

[somber depot]

Aight

[candid creek]

On the first map with spirit lock

The 5 characters one, does the spirit lock portal go right on the world map?

Or does it go further towards the boss

[somber depot]

The right

[candid creek]

Phew

I ain't locked behind 5 chars to progress that way

[somber depot]

I mean the portal kinda is placed on the right of the map but I understand

[thorny zinc]

gg we are getting out of the ui again

[radiant bison]

already?

[thorny zinc]

xdd

[radiant bison]

dayumn

[thorny zinc]

the new summoning colour gives you x18 damage from 1 single win

and x11 build rate

[reef moon]

what new summoning collor

[copper holly]

Where is that? I'd looked in the podiums and didn't see one

[thorny zinc]

teal colour unlocked in spelunky 5th cave

[candid creek]

TANGJIIIII

Hi :3

[reef moon]

@candid creek TUSK!!!!!!!!

[candid creek]

It's easier to get regalis for the quest and achievement now

Also, did you know Luckiest Lad exists now tangji?

[reef moon]

isnt luckiest lad just you?

[candid creek]

totally is

Someone's already gotten it

[reef moon]

where is it from tho

[thorny zinc]

lmaooo

[candid creek]

World 7 crystal

1/100 for the rare bag 1/200 for the mega rare bag, 1/5mil for the trophy

[hollow cave]

oh I should try and get that

[candid creek]

0.01 x 0.005 x 0.0000002 I think?

[hollow cave]

didn't realize it was skill exp

and yea it's 1/100B I think

[candid creek]

Idk the maths, it's either 1/100bil or 1/1T

[reef moon]

i swear i killed a crap load of w7 crystals yet i didnt see any of those recipes

[candid creek]

Drop chance for anything in world 7 is insanity

[reef moon]

btw i had wings drop yet i still dont have obol

[hollow cave]

are the souls needed for this set's skulls from the 25m path after litterbug or the multi-lock

[thorny zinc]

after litterbug

next portal

[hollow cave]

oh I thought the other portal was a lock for some reason, the easier or harder of the two?

since there's a 25M and 250M one I think

not sure if those are the starting values but some large ratio

[thorny zinc]

easier i think

[hollow cave]

cool

hopefully can get the set tomorrow

though the prehistoria bars might be a bit annoying due to hte sheer quantity of ore needed

[thorny zinc]

you wont get the set

[hollow cave]

oh is there something hard that I missed

[thorny zinc]

the boots are...

[hollow cave]

oh no, that's the only recipe I didn'tn have

[thorny zinc]

same

[hollow cave]

I just kind of assumed I missed it on the way

what's up with the boots, if you know their recipe

[thorny zinc]

im not here yet but look at this

[hollow cave]

or is it getting the recipe itself that's a problem

oh god that HP

[thorny zinc]

xdd

[hollow cave]

I think I'm only in like the single digit million crystal damage

[thorny zinc]

also the xp you get there is insane

[hollow cave]

yea given the litterfish jump from prior I can imagine

[thorny zinc]

follkey went from 700 to 900 instantly

[hollow cave]

even without the 10x or 2x exp companion all my characters have easily reached 700, and active can push at least my DK pretty easily to 800

[thorny zinc]

yeah the amount of class xp we get is wild

this takes so much time

[hollow cave]

I will probably push it once I get teal, but I'm not looking forward to it

[thorny zinc]

the only problem is when u get no lane stacking

[reef moon]

dam i love the masterclass gain companion got my AC out of w2 into w3 so fast lmao

[thorny zinc]

that shit takes too much time

[thorny zinc]

i actually cant wait to see my gains now with everything

[hollow cave]

no lane stacking single lane was the most miserable endless

[obsidian cave]

What to prioritize here?

[thorny zinc]

prisma bonus

def try to max it as fast as possible

[hollow cave]

oh yea actually speaking of gains, does your exotic exchange have windwalker dust? curious if it's the same for everyone

[thorny zinc]

wait no

you dont have gold ball gain maxed so i would go for that first

[thorny zinc]

yes

from what i saw its the same for everyone

bakanobu has the same shop

[hollow cave]

ah ok, haven't done any of the turn-ins yet but definitely considering getting that one of the options

[thorny zinc]

i got crop evo before seeing how easy is to complete farming 💀

gotta wait for next week

[hollow cave]

yea I luckily completed it before getting any so I realized I don't needa get it for now at least

I'm curious how much the DR one even is

I wanna get it cause DR is DR but I'm curious how valuable it'll be

[thorny zinc]

its really bad i can show you in 2 minutes

im in an emperor fight rn

[hollow cave]

oh, is it not worth getting? and yea no rush

[hollow cave]

Villager EXP and Windwalker were the main two I was considering getting immediately

oh god I was expecting like 1% per level that's terrible

[ember wing]

yep.

[thorny zinc]

oh thanks collin

[hollow cave]

will probably skip if it's that bad good to know ahead of time

[reef moon]

soon

[thorny zinc]

no more tickets. rip

[reef moon]

oh ye on arcanist weps should i prio dmg or tycion gain?

[dry frost]

is this still meta?

[thorny zinc]

yeah. but if you wanna have more per hour place some whales above

[thorny zinc]

tach bain is always good

but if you dont want shot mobs you will need damage

[high sentinel]

yo anyone cool mans can you send me strategy for ez open all spices in game?

[reef moon]

im still in w3 map unlocking so 1 shoting mobs isnt really there yet

[thorny zinc]

yeah focus damage then

[dry frost]

i use this slow but works

[high sentinel]

thanks bro is it could work with 20-30k of power?

[dry frost]

should yeh

[thorny zinc]

oof that crit chance is rough

def do more lab with it. will help you a lot

[reef moon]

ye only 800 upgrades in the tesseract

[candid creek]

hi tangji

I have hardly anything unlocked in masterclasses tbh

[reef moon]

dw with the 4x gains on masterclasses its so easy

[wet mesa]

any1 knows what the recipes are for the new meals?

[hollow cave]

yea even from the perspective of without the early worlds are pretty chill, so with 4x you should breeze through early worlds relatively

[reef moon]

last 4 spice

[hollow cave]

especially if you get some extra multipliers from W7

[candid creek]

yeah it's amazing of a pet

[wet mesa]

oh cool ty

[quiet crane]

gm

[candid creek]

there's only one new spice, it does them all if you have the prev ones

[reef moon]

for refrence yesterday i was at start of world 2 on my AC

[candid creek]

goddamn....

[reef moon]

now i just need to do some farms to get my dmg up and accuracy

[compact pagoda]

cool

[thorny zinc]

22 stamps now gg

[hollow cave]

Shadow do you have RIP Tide by chance?

and if so do you (or anyone else) know if the AFK gains granted by it are additive for certain?

[thorny zinc]

i do have it yes but i dont know if its additive

how can i even check that

[hollow cave]

hmm, what's your AFK gains for spelunking if you check a node, and what's your vial at

I might be able to calc it in theory

1.3 and +30 should be distinct enough so long as I know roughly what it should be

[thorny zinc]

one sec im in a spelunky run rn

[hollow cave]

no rush, I'll also need to know your afk gains multiplier if any, as it DOES seem to apply (I removed my W6 trophy from pedestal and it dropped my afk gains in spelunking)

[thorny zinc]

aparently there's another 30 meals level in spelunky

how tf do we level up the meals💀

[hollow cave]

lmao wtf

even with prisma that sounds out of reach completely

given how comically 111->112 spikes

[hollow cave]

oh that's higher than I was expecting, what's the Vial and AFK gains multi? I think the only afk gains multis would be I think a pair of robes, the W6 trophy and the 0.1% tome nametag for whichever ones you have

[thorny zinc]

no afk multi robe

[quiet crane]

whats ur wave on it shadough

[candid creek]

goodness me, is that the new TD?! how are you so far already!

[hollow cave]

after you reach the TD I imagine it's pretty reasonable to get the souls needed for the vial

[quiet crane]

[quiet crane]

damn

[hollow cave]

I should have the map unlocked tomorrow and I expect I'll be some >100 value but we'll see when I get to it

[thorny zinc]

1 character claim

[hollow cave]

makes sense, soul counts post-100 get kind of silly

especially if you have soulble gum

[thorny zinc]

yeah i did used soulble gum

[hollow cave]

also the 0.1% is 20% afk gains multi right? and your W6 trophy I imagine is in a Grade 3 or 4 slot?

actually since you have riptide does it even say what the grade 4 slot does compared to grade 3

if not that should be even easier to test

[thorny zinc]

w4 done

[hollow cave]

hmm interesting it may be multiplicative, I'll try and keep an eye out for someone who acquires one that is weird if it is though, but matha-wise assuming the trophy and nametag are additive your afk gain is
(50+28.1)*1.3*(1+0.2775+0.222) = 152.244235

additive instead would be too high at (50+28.1+30)*1.4995 = 162.09595

actually I remember seeing someone who won on lavas stream, lemme go check if they have it yet, if not I might be able to ask them about their before and after

[thorny zinc]

okay

[hollow cave]

sent em a message but they're offline so don't expect response for now, they were also just a winner from the stream I think so might've already gotten it

but in case lava is being slow about giving them out it's possible there could be a small benefit to such

[night oracle]

I can't play anymore

Wtfrick

[quiet crane]

am i cooked

[night oracle]

I guess I will delete and reinstall 😭

[thorny zinc]

you reached endgame XD

[night oracle]

More like game end

[fresh parrot]

wallpaper cute, your situation not

also holy gambler

[night oracle]

WDYMMM

I don't gamble

[thorny zinc]

w5 done

[mint rivet]

what's ur dr?

[mint rivet]

damn

[quiet crane]

these people bro 💔

[hollow cave]

what do the golems say they need for the next rank

I'm morbidly curious how stupid the number is

[thorny zinc]

you dont want to see that XD

[true hamlet]

145m or something

[hollow cave]

do you know how many cards you had before? was it just enough for ruby?

[true hamlet]

he likely rubified it

it's really hard to get to diamond, let alone ruby lol

[thorny zinc]

yeah i did rubified

[hollow cave]

if you rubify does it force the card count to that point?

[true hamlet]

yes

[thorny zinc]

also hi jiof

[true hamlet]

hi

[hollow cave]

good to know

1/3/5/16/459/14500 may be the multipliers then

will need to check other cards to be sure

I'll try and keep an eye on any I pass the threshold to ruby on

[true hamlet]

villager xp kinda wonky now

[compact pagoda]

time for resampling

[true hamlet]

haven't even put legend talents into it

[quiet crane]

leveling this

[compact pagoda]

oh i got 10 blue dmg now cool

no more funky numbers

[ember wing]

pro

[quiet crane]

lol

[true hamlet]

[quiet crane]

same 🥀

[ember wing]

im addicted to this palette gaming someone please save me

[true hamlet]

how far are you into palette lol

[compact pagoda]

not funny man

[quiet crane]

what..

[true hamlet]

ok I'll send help

[quiet crane]

maxed snail?

[ember wing]

no lol

[true hamlet]

I spent 3h clicking and didn't get a new colour 1 in 1400 isn't real

[quiet crane]

[reef moon]

lmao talk about a "GREAT" run

[quiet crane]

what does the squirrel 3rd upgrade do

[true hamlet]

what does the squirrel even do

[hollow cave]

Palette Luck

[true hamlet]

hmm

[ember wing]

whoops dna in the way

[quiet crane]

thats pretty cool

[true hamlet]

76%

[quiet crane]

🔥

[ember wing]

its low

[true hamlet]

oh 78

[quiet crane]

78.8* 🤓

[candid creek]

Goodness me, I wanna see what they all do!

[quiet crane]

is this coralcave?

[candid creek]

Holy waves

[quiet crane]

i got to like 130, shadow has 1700

170*

[reef moon]

well atleast i managed to get 3 chests

[quiet crane]

1700 would be a bit much

[candid creek]

Holy

[quiet crane]

was this always this wide?

[compact pagoda]

time to grind prisma

[compact pagoda]

was

[quiet crane]

was

[ember wing]

just spelunk for prisma

[true hamlet]

lol I stopped at 120, 1 char was enough to max the vial

my spelunking still bad

[quiet crane]

i didnt get the vial bro, its so unlucky

[compact pagoda]

i have 2 bubbles in total man

[ember wing]

oh..

[true hamlet]

I spammed stopwatches

[quiet crane]

ah fair enough

[compact pagoda]

dont make me slack more

[quiet crane]

this is gonna be cool

[true hamlet]

what spelunk level do people go for

my afk seems devastatingly low

[compact pagoda]

how to play ac

[ember wing]

how the fk

oh wait I have prayer on

im dumb

[true hamlet]

huh how is your afk so high

[quiet crane]

i just realized this is a thing now :)

[compact pagoda]

time to reach w2 goodbye chat

[ember wing]

I got everyone to 10 in spelunking and just started sending tries at the bosses

probably not ideal

[quiet crane]

gl

[thorny zinc]

new statue levels

[true hamlet]

I'm at spelunking 20 and I can't kill mushroom man

[ember wing]

[true hamlet]

I need the flail perchance

[ember wing]

mallet should be good enough

[hollow cave]

what's your power at

[true hamlet]

700m

[hollow cave]

I did it without flail at lvl 22-ish

I think I had somewhere in the range of 1-2B power though

[quiet crane]

last time i wanted to check how much my red salt would produce if i left it on auto refine but somehow it produced less than normally

[compact pagoda]

funny thing is my pc died*

[true hamlet]

reminds me, I should buy instagrow

[compact pagoda]

u jinx 🙁

[true hamlet]

just a lot of upgrades then? hmm I might be missing an external multi somewhere

[hollow cave]

from what I understand the closer your power is to the "required" amount for an object the closer to 100% hit rate you get so the lower power the more likely your hits are to be resisted

in the gemshop the auto upgrade gives you 2x power per

[true hamlet]

ohh

[hollow cave]

I think I had 1 of those

[ember wing]

palette has pow aswell

[true hamlet]

yarr

[quasi dagger]

what are gigao enemies in wave defense

[true hamlet]

ok I have 1.4b pow now, I'll go... cry and palette

[true hamlet]

biggest guys

[hollow cave]

at my power it still took me a couple (3-ish I think) characters full stamina bars to kill the boss

so it's still potentially rough

[quasi dagger]

whats the use difference between pulse mage and fireball lobber

[hollow cave]

just depends how the resist RNG is

[true hamlet]

what's the rough stamina each person had

[hollow cave]

82 I think

[true hamlet]

okey

[mint rivet]

now with w7 we can actually gstack boss drops, like chizoar spikes

(only if p2w)

[true hamlet]

we could before..

[mint rivet]

i did 15k chizoars and got half a mil spikes before

[quasi dagger]

whats the use difference between pulse mage and fireball lobber in wave defense

[true hamlet]

but you didn't have an endgamer's dr

[true hamlet]

I think fireball is AoE

[sleek stone]

does worship regen with candy tho?

[true hamlet]

yes

[sleek stone]

alright thanks

[true hamlet]

uhhh I need to print the coral vial thing

how low can it get

mama mia, that's low

[ember wing]

20?

[true hamlet]

550

[ember wing]

low wtf

[true hamlet]

[ember wing]

good comms though now I go print them

[sleek stone]

damn CC be wildin with ssuper talent

[sleek stone]

been 7-9 minute and still not done yet

[true hamlet]

Green tail thing too ig

[ember wing]

oh right

[true hamlet]

Anyways, I don't need my DK to print anything else, and he has all the mobrespawn gear

So he'll prob do both drops

[thorny zinc]

done lol

[mint rivet]

not ONE escape rope

how do i know what resistance lore boss has?

[thorny zinc]

huh

[ashen steppe]

if you use the escape rope do you avoid the tax

[mint rivet]

i got to depth 11, clicked lore boss, it just said resist resist resist

[thorny zinc]

oh..i actually dont know how can u check that

[hollow cave]

we don't know, I imagine the wiki will have it when the emargo drops

[fresh parrot]

resist is simply not having enough power afaik

[hollow cave]

the value seems to be a good bit above the nearby obstacles

[fresh parrot]

not a resistance to specific weapon

[mint rivet]

well where do i see required power?

[hollow cave]

we can't yet

[mint rivet]

before entering it just shows me pwr required for coral

[sleek stone]

ok wtf almost 700k time cc

[fresh parrot]

if it's not on wiki, you can't

[mint rivet]

lets go!!

80% of my hits were resist, others did lil dmg, i was lucky i had stamina

[ember wing]

good work

[quasi forge]

I was wondering why divine knight is best for statues farm, is it because he has the skill that kill every monster and respawns them?

[mint rivet]

exit rope clutch too

[frank sonnet]

Best way for doing skull points rift challenge?

[hollow cave]

its revive is good but not the best, the real notable portion is that Orb gives a significant boost to enemy drops

[thorny zinc]

done those too

[hollow cave]

you have a good revive ability combined with a major boost to drop rate

[mint rivet]

what does this take to finish?

[ashen steppe]

how have u done so many already 😭

[hollow cave]

have you seen the unholy purple forge requirements

[thorny zinc]

no?

[mint rivet]

huge

[thorny zinc]

damnn

[ashen steppe]

why is w7 chat called endgame chat btw 😭

[mint rivet]

are you fucking serious right neow

[thorny zinc]

w7 is last world so endgame

[hollow cave]

lemme see if I can find an image it was comical

[mint rivet]

what w7 buff increases snail lvl up chance?

[frank sonnet]

Best way for doing skull points rift challenge?

[ashen steppe]

make sense 😁

[ember wing]

just encourage once so you have fail safe and try for +1

[hollow cave]

ah here it is Shadow

[ember wing]

if it fails encourage again rinse repeat

[frank sonnet]

Anyone?

[mint rivet]

just use a good mob clearing class

[mint rivet]

this is exactly what i needed

[sleek stone]

is there an image for ac farm spot?

[quasi forge]

Got it, thanks
I have the quest to get 20k power statues.
Probably will do that after reaching w5

[hollow cave]

a cool 146k forge clicks for purple card (image above in my prior message reply)

[mint rivet]

how do i get that

[ember wing]

terrible news if your snail isnt level 25

it doesnt work for anything under 25

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/hoppy-pepe-the-frog-driving-hoppy-the-frog-carry-minati-gif-11823957163445095231

[ember wing]

once you buy the duperbit upgrade it changes encourage automatically to that

[mint rivet]

what w7 buffs are there to increase snail lvl up chance?

[frank sonnet]

Like bulbo?

[ember wing]

havent encountered any myself only more chance at mail

from spelunk and palette color

[ashen steppe]

i just got level 10 snail

[mint rivet]

should i always have 4 equipped?

[ember wing]

ye

well if you are hunting for a specific color/tile to unlock no

[polar bane]

Dude my snail just reset from 24 to 20

💀

[ember wing]

[mint rivet]

chat do i do it

[ember wing]

yea good luck

[mint rivet]

any buff i should get before?

[ember wing]

maybe a couple pillows just incase it fails

[mint rivet]

huh

[ember wing]

so you can take your anger out on them

[mint rivet]

oh, time to try

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

if i have my atom leveled up i can never fall bellow 25, right?

[ember wing]

ye

you are safe

[mint rivet]

what did i just do

ig 25-30 is easy

[ember wing]

the protection is just op really

[mint rivet]

now i can never fall bellow 30

[thorny zinc]

done with those too

[mint rivet]

ggs 10x'd my bits compared to 4 mins ago

[true hamlet]

oh... wait a minute I see how I'm supposed to do palette now

I just need to get a few blue bits

[thorny zinc]

yep

[true hamlet]

my snail kinda sucky though

[mint rivet]

what's ur snail at?

[true hamlet]

31/50

[thorny zinc]

mine is 33

[mint rivet]

not bad, how do i unlock more snail levels?

[ember wing]

duperbits

[true hamlet]

pooperbits

[thorny zinc]

xdd

i dont like how many stars i see at all

[true hamlet]

how hard is the teal summoning cave compared to the medal crop one

[ember wing]

very

[thorny zinc]

yeah you need like almost 1T damage

[true hamlet]

so probably need the 3rd cave huh

[mint rivet]

what are yall sitting at?

i feel like am struggling too much

[true hamlet]

165k, I fucked up my justice run

[mint rivet]

isn't justice softcapped at lvl 500

for arti chance

a lot of multies damn

[thorny zinc]

and im done with cards

[true hamlet]

as if I'm close to 500 at all

[mint rivet]

did yall invest in this btw?

[true hamlet]

yes

[mint rivet]

its time

[true hamlet]

I didn't have a lot of wishes so I could only get it to 250%

[mint rivet]

while this lasts

[ember wing]

maybe you get lucky like me and get a wave 75 run

[mint rivet]

i don't want that kind of luck

[true hamlet]

I crashed should've reloaded before run

woah is this insta gaming again

[mint rivet]

stuff going good so far

[mint rivet]

can you insta game with pallette on?

[true hamlet]

not yet lol

my bad, got excited

[ashen steppe]

yes

[ember wing]

yikes

not reading hurts me once again

[true hamlet]

what's your pow lol

[ember wing]

5T apparently that starter rock need 600T

[true hamlet]

horrifying

[unborn sluice]

are these achieves cooked with the trophy changes?

[thorny zinc]

ugh someone use candy irl so i can finish them faster

[thorny zinc]

no you can still get the trophies

using the w7 shop item

[unborn sluice]

thats what ive tried but its not given me the achieve

[thorny zinc]

hmm

[thorny zinc]

wierd

[mint rivet]

3 gratefuls in a row

wth is going on

[ember wing]

they will hear you

[mint rivet]

and another

[reef moon]

any 1 have optimal action bar for AC farming?

[ashen steppe]

anyone interested in carrying me in the w2 dungeon? 😁

[night oracle]

Btw, it's not gambling if you know you'll get it after 100 pulls

[true hamlet]

hmm ok

[night oracle]

How much pow?

[true hamlet]

2b

[mint rivet]

what the bonus?

[true hamlet]

I think it's the medal one

[night oracle]

Huh?

[true hamlet]

then teal is next

[night oracle]

Medal crops yea

[ember wing]

Greg dead

[true hamlet]

is the 3rd elixr good?

[night oracle]

Were you real about the 2b? 😭

[true hamlet]

or rather where should I go next

[true hamlet]

2b was kinda over kill, maybe 1b enough

[fresh parrot]

lose the 50/50 gg

[fresh parrot]

third weapon ig

[night oracle]

Blue archive has no 50/50s :)

[fresh parrot]

or unlock the second potion tier, for 2 pots

[fresh parrot]

lucky

alright 7hr afk hopefully enough for splunk20 time to idleon

[mint rivet]

DAMN

6 grateful bringers in a row since then

make that 7 in a row

make that 8 in a row

[thorny zinc]

1/10

[quasi dagger]

do i still keep pig pet bonus after i trade it?

[thorny zinc]

yes

[quasi dagger]

k

[thorny zinc]

the pet only becomes untradable

[night oracle]

Barely made it for 1 hit....

[spark granite]

where can i find worship setups for tower defense

[true hamlet]

how did you go from a few b of spelunk pow to T lol

or whatever it is

[thorny zinc]

only have 2T

[true hamlet]

search "from:pancakex.: guide"

[true hamlet]

yeah but how to get there, what upgrades to do

[thorny zinc]

but endless summoning gives pow, gaming, meals

all those

• go back to early caves and redo them

[true hamlet]

my amber gain seems to have stagnated a bit

do you have the overstim?

[quasi dagger]

all pets become untradable after being traded once?

[thorny zinc]

whats that again?

[true hamlet]

the bar on the bottom right

[thorny zinc]

those are my stats

[true hamlet]

ever filled it?

[thorny zinc]

nope

[true hamlet]

okok

[dense fable]

hey, where do yall increase Artifact change for the new ones ?

shall I buy in gem shop upgrade for sailing?

[thorny zinc]

this is literally insane

[thorny zinc]

nah you dont need that

[dense fable]

hmm do I spam Justice monument ---> Artifact % ?

what are some big sources like that ?

[thorny zinc]

gaming has a pallete

[dense fable]

oo okay, will push that

[thorny zinc]

this one

also the one under it that has 1 in 476 is pow multi for spelunky @true hamlet

[dense fable]

when I claim my plants, that is when Palettes get XP ?

[true hamlet]

yeah ik

[hexed shoal]

W3-w4 became midgame now confirmed by lava

[quiet crane]

is there a point pushing this

[hexed shoal]

Ngl I'll push until I can get w7 tasks then give up

[quiet crane]

ehm...

[thorny zinc]

no tasks yet

[dense fable]

new palettes unlock by itself or do I have to stay active on an "edge" to unlock that side?