#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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sailing has dmg
Did you know there's a lab node that gives 2x kills for portals and deathnote? There's also a divinity for that, meaning that's 4x for those two things with both
yeah, i have both of those
and hole has option to pick 2 extra gods to alwys be active
like
the divinity
and the lab node is always active cause of the polar bear man
You grinded all characters in lab when pushing w4 and all in div in w5 when pushing yo w6 right?
Yeah, earlier you'll have only 1 tho
yes 👍
i think fairly early you can get 2
Not really
I mean, I have it and I'm early in hole, but it took me weeks to get the second one
i actually just got that
which guy should i select there
If you have one link... depends on goals and if you play active or afk
Arctis
Then you can select either Nobisect or someone else depending on which character for actual div
And you use the second one there to have omnipahu
also
one more thing
is it worth taking my characters off divinity for like 3 days so i can get vman
or do i just get vman later
If you have about 6-700 total meals then yes if not then nah
If it only takes 3 days to get it wouldn't be bad
But I might not even do it until you can easily candy every 1-3 mob for it
I've been confused about egg capacity in breeding
It says the more capacity you have, the longer it takes to get a new one, so doesnt that make it literally just worse, if you want to get rare eggs and then actually use them
since it'd take that much longer to reach your max and get rare eggs again
It should be the longer it takes to reach max eggs not to get a new egg
This
It doesn't take longer like the library
"The more eggs you currently hold, the rarer it is to get a new one."
its just a lie?
Then that's just written weirdly
Until you have all eggs at max capacity, it's 100% chance with the same time
Where is the quote from
If it’s about upgrading them then in a roundabout way it’s true
the generic egg capacity upgrade in the breeding upgrade list
Send a pic
Lava for you
Is it worth it ?
Because I don't see any important upgrades with the pets,cooking or laboratory
Is what worth it?
Putting characters in the laboratory
I mean I don't see the utility of the new skills we unlock at w4
Oh, yeah, lab levels allow your guys to connect from farther away, unlocking more nodes
Breeding and cooking are very slow to start
Yes but they need to be uploaded in the lab to get the upgrades,it seems very not worthy for me
Maybe later the characters can be uploaded and played on ?
In w5, there's a way to get bonuses without physically being in lab
try to reach this thing
Should I push for w5 like I do with my first character ?
Nowadays people can push w6 in a week. So I don't see the harm.
I just played the game for the first time in two years I think, so I don't know if my characters are too high leveled or not for the place they are
gods
ah to be young and not to see the benefits at first glance
You unlock a chance at finally having a proper meal, what do you mean.
Your character has been eating raw bean slices so far.
whats the cahnces of red frisbee sample?
You always get a frisbee sample. Just got to get enough of one to be able to hit at least 1/h.

clammy
😭 wtf thats kinda awesome
Yummy cakes
im a few maps into W3 but my main char is starting to take the dps from the mobs, I don't have much money to raise def in vault anymore, should I try to shoot for better equips? IS there any recommendations on what to go for? HEs a barb
Make this a gif
What gear you have?
but gif dont make sound 
Got couple off options alchemy, stamps, dungeon fluerbos, gear
Ok bet
Can skip helmet for now kinda expencive early game requires like 5 rare drops
1h candy
but sure ill make a different one that doesnt look weird without sound
Early game you might not get 1
trasher build
can you send me a pic or something for the proper build?
Bones + looter + monolith + refiller + defender + refiller
@keen parcel go find pls old man, I'm lazy
Defender manual trigger while the others auto trigger
this guy is working overtime
Ohh i should get refiller
yea i dont think hes winning
get the green roots
yea lowk that might be my issue
Already people giving options
I believe w5 td is meant to be done as hunter.
all of them not only w5

chat ts was a joke 😭
i sold everything and placed a single fireball tower
WHA-
ig i shouldve let the kraken eyes expire
That's not allowed.
Illegal
is what i used bit of rng tho
go kick the mob towards the totem
Bone man at the back.
I Dont think so this power of pets gonna help me but thanks
It does
i literaly beat it with those exact pets
oh for fuck sake it fucking does
Great balancing
i just have to use some eggs to get them
thanks matt
it might take few atempts tho for the abilities to be cast at the right time
true td players dont use hunter talents
okay
exacly just get enough tower upgrades to brute force it with pure dmg
.3
i thought that was ":3"
im fried
:3


your nblb reaches the max level of my nslb
so 21
12 dumdum
helps a lot 
oh nah I'm focusing on nslb here 😔
21 surely, u pro
bubble is whatever it'll be useless eventually
am i cooked? i still didn't pick a class for my 9th and 10th slot
give more accuracy
early w5 finally
what is better for golden cheese, dk bloodbone or neptune
Both viable, could farm either for their other loot like equinox mirror or black lenses
ty bro
its rams 
kebab return holy

guys is there a faster way to get grey dna?
is there a difference when collecting traps if done from the trapper drone vs eagle eye? plz & ty in advanced
i dont think so
spam eggs that you get from mutated mush
grey dna 
drone = eagle eye
fantastic ty kindly
based on eagle eye, but will gain some bonus too so always better collecting with drone
What can I do to boost this ? I need 5k more in starfield
surround it with whales with one leaf on top
and instead of a leaf replace with flashy
Gobo will not let me go onward despite cooking a ton of the first recipe at this point?
what do I do? he still wants me to use ladles to finish the first recipe but..? I already did when he first told me to and so I let them cook for like 3 hours and I come back and still can't progress? I have like 50 something and even bought extra kitchens to speed it up and Gobo will not give
you need to also afk in kitchen for 15 mins
isnt that quest where you gotta afk for 15 min at the kitchen?
@balmy crystal like this ?
yeah
we know idleon players dont read 😄
my quest manager was full so i was just going off the words on the text block
well at this point you can replace the the converters from above and below with whales as well since you are not getting that much speed
I see 2 other spot where a whale can be 
-# ohhh right 3
yeah
Holy crap

pretty good 
Thank you guys so basically I can do this for whatever spice is needed for lab jewels
other black jewel is the shores of eternity's spice
Crazy to think that this morning my highest foraging was 200k 
Anyone know if the +50% Equinox Bar Fill Rate from the Gem Pack is multiplicative?
think is additive

IT says it is however it does have an asterisk next to its source so idk if it is
arcade one is multi?
, a shame i couldnt max it when i could
Excuse me, could you tell me the best way to get spices?
use the recommend lineups
get higher power pets
also claim more often
esp using the star talent
I would like to know which are the best pets to generate spices.
iirc this is an optimal setup
btw i dont have the W6 areas unlocked yet so the final area i have unlocked has a glitter talent or whatever its called
pets dont matter but the talent does
this is still optimal i think?
ah right here is the chart
Is getting cooking to 100 on everyone easy? seems slow once i hit 80. I probably need to work on some bonuses more before i continue?
it slows down to a certain point where it feels like hitting a brick wall with balloons yea
getting that exp multi up higher would help
you know... i was doing it to get 100k ladles quickly so i had everyone in there, and decided to go for 100, didnt even consider baloons
that is much faster for xp
so yah 100 shouldnt be a problem
afk BB with maxed cvooking PO box i supose
also you dont need cooking lv 100 to get 100k ladels
yah i had already gotten the 100k like a week ago, everyones just been sitting there still
only used them on cooking, takes like 2mins of clicking to 100 lvl
yeah personally i planned to level up everyone to 100 at some point via baloons on cooking
they seem kinda useless on most skills ive tried them on so i never consider them
im sure thats wrong though
ok cuz i had tried it on fishing and i was like if i wanna sit here for a day holding down my mouse button i might get a level
is there any way to unlcok the last slot
nope
not yet
maybe soon with w7
oh okay thank yall
if only those worked for div and lab
absolutely [jemp,oma;
esp when it comes to unfucking alch levels
or above 30/50
phenomenal*
any reason to get past 1k cooking levels?
They’re good for getting Vman up
Cooking does nothing in a Vacuum
But it does help things that are total levels based
Those balloons no good for trapping too?
nature traps
Just used 1k for not even a percent of a level
im thinking cooking must be the only good use for them other then low level stuff
Mainly for skill levels that boost certain things like measure in cavern.
There is star talent for extra coins every 10 cooking levels, but that it isn't huge
Do they make more food or do they speed up new recipes?
Both
And bb has talent that makes em worth more time
most of the ladles i used went into new recipes, outside of that hardly touched them. and im maxed dishes right now
With prisma dchef?
yah
like ladles can be helpful but its all about cooking speed. you dont got enough of that ladles wont do you much good
No meal left behind does lot of the heavy lifting towards end, at least for me. Didn't prisma though
Im at lantern spirits rn and i got 1mil accuracy how far does that get me?
well it gets you to 1M accuracy
3 mobs after need less than 1m acc for 100%
ceramics need 975K
so that leaves you safe for mama trolls leaks and ceramics
dogos are 1.2M eggs 1.5m spirits 2.25m
« Spirits » as if more than half w6 mobs aren’t spirits or have that in their names
Just print for your shaq bubble and click it hourly, good to go
Also golem (last mob at C15 in da hole) need 1.5B acc
Yeah
so im good to go?
Yeah
17billion thats fine
Can you get plunder kills while afk?
No plunder, no giants, no crystals
Can you get wormhole kills while afk tho?
Nope, but you can get tachs afk. Trust me, bro
can you leave your toons afk in equinox to do some skilling?
But surely you can get orb kills afk right?
Does NBLB have to be activated all the time or just once per day in lab?
has to be active once your daily reset happens
anyone got tips for me ive basically neglected all skills from w3+ and now needa catch up on it all what do i focus on (ive mainly been trying to focus on cooking/sailing rn)
Push caverns, get pocket divinity, profit from having Omni active
whats omni and pocket divinity?
Pocket divinity is doot lite. Let's you choose 1 (2 if upgraded) divinities that all your char are linked to
i got doot early so do i not need to worry abt that or does it still give bonuses ontop of doot
Just % stats iirc
If youre w6 get your 10k hamster beanstalk done. Should take care of sailing pretty quick
yeah ive been using my dk at citringe for that i think im upto like 3-4k
when you have doot pocket divnity gives 30% stats
For cooking, vman with bone marrow. You can prisma dchef bubble, too, if youre pretty low
if i afk on cooking with vman and db will it still use vmans multiplier?
If the talent is leveled it uses it no matter what vman is doing, afk cooking is just for ladles (and exp, but its easier to balloon it)
should i be using my ladles to get new recipes quicker so i can increase vmans multiplier then
You can, or use them on meals that only take 1-10 ladles or whatever. Should be upgrading kitchen via spices, too
Not sure if what i did was efficient, but i set other meals I wanted to level up on other kitchens, and the new recipe on the highest luck one, then used ladles on db/bb for best gains

yeah ive been working on getting spice generation up too but havent got far for breeding
yeah thats what ive been doing and it seems to work pretty well
the last yondergreen quest is about to kill me
i've done it 4 times and the game has decided "no you haven't" 4 times
anyone wanna dance in world 4 town on pizza 3?
Is there a guide to worship? I can't even kill wave 1 of the first totem haha!
How can I get that yellow salt? How can I speed this system pls? I've 3 D prjnt both items.
Welcome to salt pain
Really confusing
Not really
It just takes a ton of time
U will prolly need 50 redox or so to unlock the orange salt
@half hull Mainly, 3d print things to keep it going 24/7. Red you wanna level as much as possible
More statue levels
Or when w7 drops, likely couple statues to onyx for better deposit
ill gstack it then turn it in
theres 2 w3 gfoods and both are useful 
anyone have issues with the massive troll boss fight? i keep winning his mini games but i cant target him afterwards. this is the 6th time hes broken and ive had to leave the arena. playing on pc
He can bug out and cant dmg him
would ES or DK be better for money grinding hypothetically?
DK
it goes red orange blue
i asusmethey have to manully refine once before the pop up goes away
or rank up once
also i assume running jawbreaker with ES will kinda kill it due to ES being the one class that actually cares about dmg when it comes to mob hp
aight ty
The max. book level checkout seems to be 300. I can't find the problem why I only have the max. at 290.
Most of the missing one comes from %winner bonuses
Merit bonus is unlocked, salt lick also unlocked, achivements are done, oxygen also, artifact is fury and the summoning winner bonus is done as well.
you have +31 from summ?
you know what... let me check that real quick, thanks Haha
well well well.. its only +19 from summoning.
do u have sovereign winz lantern
yes, but not sovereign form, yet
at least I now know what to do haha. I almost went crazy...
Thank you very much!
Can get to 301
It's 300.998
You need pristine charm iirc for summoning bonus
sneaky
thats insane. Only got 2 or 3 so far. they never drop
That is bc they were "buffed" (hard nerf) back in July and if you've found over 120 charms you have 0% chanve now
time to farm gems for charms 😋
thats a bummer.
I feel like not playing anymore after hearing that, haha.
All that time grinding for.... nothing, welp
They would need around 20k gems, spending on nothing but that
well better than nothing 😭
Supposed to be patched w7 release
no
Hopefully gem shop has free pristine or 3 in it, too
i wish 
donate me 3 gems man 
i can buy 2 pristine charms right now with my hard earned gems.
If the comb is not in it - I'm not touching the game again until W7
its not very likely so better to just save
haha its all on preferences
I mean, they've been broken for 150 days. New players should have gotten at least 5-10+ pristine in that time, even with possible duplicates.
either wait or gamble like me
can confirm
Wouldnt waste gems on pristines rn. World 7 gem shop rotation could have something like equinox penguins that never come back
time to pray with my 5 gems 😋
What would be the best character to push through world 4
active or afk ?
Afk
blood beserker
W4 is mainly lab, minus one pusher. Would keep shaman out til he gets elite, too. Then push each for elite
Because of the double count?
I started playing in april 2021. Always casual. But now with the winning%..... It broke my back. I'm done.

was a nice time and thanks a lot for the help ❤️
Dk/ES if you auto is much faster, definitely bb for afk tho
not everyone can active 
This
I wish I could tho
I played up to end w4 without active, I knoe
How much activ are we talking about
truly a knoe monent 
Cant say, for sure. Depends on acct. Just DK and ES have respawn skills. If you have MK, even better
/번역
The beginner's guide says to switch to ES on world 4 for easier gameplay
My AC/ES have gotten around 430k kills today, have about 8hrs til reset. Thats not counting multikill
/transfer en ko
BB is still best for afk push, that is for active. ES is decent, as is DK
anyone who starts with letter S to say "'1 star, game sucks!" in pizza 1?
And bubo is, if you can 1 shot with poison
Ok got it
/autotransfet
If you dont have auto loot it begins to lag overnight tho
Might need to filter drops, too
is troll just incredibly buggy or does he troll by just deciding to not play games anymore sometimes...
bug
happens sometimes 🙁
well at least the farm for more is easy
anyway hows progrress
trying to get cheese so trying to eek out every bit of kitchen speed I can, thought oh grabbing 1 more troll card won't be hard. hah.
Is it worth it to release everyone from lab jail to get the 1m kills for voidwalker? Or do I aim for 75 lab first Vman later?
I skipped lab altogether until w5 and the 5th divine
don't see a point in leveling it if I don't have resources for chips
with the 5th divine i'd be getting 2 skills in one from the lab jail, so figured it would be better
Killers Brightside
That's the one
It isn't worth it until you have the third divinity in world 5, and you can candy the W1-3 kills. If you have to bring everyone out of what they're doing, it won't be worth it
And do killer brightside kills count for that or no? I'm guessing no?
What does the quest say...
Deathnote 1M kills
Exactly
OK good
I didn't want to have to track two different sets of numbers
IDK how I'd even track that
The world 5 third divinity gives 2x again for deathnote and portals
Well, 2x more, so it'll be 4x either way
I'm still pushing W4 so it's moot rn
Sounds like I might leave everyone in Lab for now until W5
Yeah hell no
On average it isn't worth trying to get Vman before world 5
Perfect
Yeah, then all into divinity 
That's what I needed to know!
Gotta do it some time, may as well do it now early enough for the rewards to be good
Man I wish steam played nice with mobile
The second divinity lets you have everyone in lab without them being afk there
They just don't gain lab xp for it
Exactly
Better earlier than later
i just realized new world means more greenstack potential
What pets to use to get far in arena?
can i confirm that this has no "use" button and thus is always applied, so i have to carefully chose what i upgrade?
!guide pet tab 🤷♂️
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
Easy equinox dream done without trying
I needed like 17 more for 200 but i haven't been trying to get more w7 might just tip it over the edge
Jaaaaaaake hi
Hiiiii
Look what I got :3
well this didnt take many kills
anotha one
I've never heard of an "Emperor Kabuto". Do the emperors all have different names, and will Nintendo sue?
It's a traditional headweae
That's the name of the boss armour
Ah. That's a shame.
kabuto is prolly the helmet
lets goooooo thats a massive one to get
morninggggg
It gave insane stuff
Insane skill eff
hi jiof. ready for shrine ballot?
yessirrr its one of the best to upgrade
wait is sigil ballot already over? 
yeah i think its catching ballot now
noooooo
Ya catching rn
i only got these done
:3 I got it to 110
yeah
I could probably get it to 120
Not gonna candy at all
oh
omg shrine is winning
lets hope so
Most beneficial to me atm is stat ngl
hell nah
last time i got no bravery multi 🙁
iv enever gotten multi im hoping this time might be the one, i got the the stage where i could get it on roll for like 2 fights
so we praying this time
also almost there and then i can reset my bell
Extra 2 lab xp per hour
i havent reset it since it was like level 8
just buy the lab gem upgrades (def worth it)
same
boutta like double all of these stats potentially
ur lacking ringing rate
i think the biggest issue for that is the money aspect ngl
whats your levels like?
How did I not think of that
you are not smart like me (refund button when)
red time to see, do i potentially waste like 700 hours on insta ranking up my other refineries
or do i just leave them off auto regular afterwards
nevah
cause it would probably take like less than a day per rankup for these atm
im only about 20 behind in everything except the mithril which isnt too bad ngllll
yet ur rate is not 10b even
maybe bravery is the issue then
divinity screen cooked
just buy it
thats why we pushing it now, only 36k hours might break 50k today
are you gr 6 or 7?
idk
:oooo
is that gr 7?
crazy
ill catch you one day
done
Rude.
my bad
Oi. Bezos ring in shop, go get it.
2500 gems for some gold on my chat box. no thanks
just get meteor ring, free
fair
when i get the trap box vacuum ffrom the rift, should i change all my traps to 24hrs instead of 60min?
The real deal
it was a daily thing untill acc questions
this is kinda weird, don't think it's supposed to be like that
up to comfort
why weird
do you not send to storage each time u rank up
It’s time to get this place back to cool gamer status
hahA
then I gotta click one extra time every time I come to refinery
lmao
yeah, .2 seconds isn't much
all that work 🙁
adds up over time
when does it automatically redo the traps?
its neglijable
it doesn't redo, it just claims those that are ready
Cool kids don’t deposit
jeez, I'm gonna start losing my salt gstacks
On lame kings stache
i dont waanna comment or i start a new war 
oh so i still have to go to the drone and start the traps again? then ill stick to the 1hr ones
they auto start if claimed by vacuum
back to bone farm goodbye chat 
oh yeha thats what i meant, but guessing getting them done hourly-ish is still getting me more critters
ngl i haven't touched trapping in like 3 months
Sadge
Sadge
my green didnt even rankup once either
Sadge
Madge cause sadge
whats your red rank jiof
oh okay
I log on once every 1-2 days, so I get very few ranks
mine is 512 but i havent claimed that much
i will start claiming again as i want to reach 1k before w7
I could do 2h claims but I think I'll leave the sweatiness for w7 when there's many timegated things to do together like the minigames
Then I'm not doing Shrine Week too cos I think it's a waste of candies atm
TinTim agreed 
TinTim the goat
shady man, not goat
What's the point of spamming shrine hours now when I can wait for more potential bonuses in w7 and maximise my candies more
also more things like food effect potentially for more cheese power
Cheese
I was going to make a calculator for anvil point distribution, until I saw the formula 
I've got 5.7M out of 6.4M hours for the next sword shrine level, and god do I not want to do that.
my shrines are low, but I think I need a billion hours for the next level
man im not skipping this one, we might never see a shrine ballot ever again
Kind of painful as well, three years of having everyone AFK in w4, and it's only level 23.
mine are 28 rn with this ballot might reach 30 tbh
I feel like I might not even hit 29 even if I spammed candy
Yeah... Going to need some serious upgrades before this starts moving again.
only 22k hours with terrible cheese stacks
Goodness
As it is my shrines are static and I can freely move them regardless of hours.
Cheese
You have the jade emp thing and the lab thing and the artifact thing?
i also farm cheese for entire week so i can get more hours. i have 2m+ cheese now
No, yes, and possibly.
2n+1
Where n is 1,000,000
Just not going to worry about it for now. I can use these shrines for cleanup, and I will.
yeah that's fine, I just think that the amount of shrine xp % we get in w7 from the random bonuses accumulating together will exceed the 2.XX times from ballot, so by skipping, I save candy and pain of candying lol
As it is I'm not prepared for a shrine vote.
not to mention the increased number of resources I can get with new bonuses
fair point xd
why is anvilpoint in same group as stamp smh
Cause w1
what's your div level shadow
um one sec
i just went from have a total of 250 up to now this, EASYYYYY
190-209
nice
Annoyed my AC keeps losing afk time randomly
damn
but I've been in div for too long so 
rn im farming rupies as this is really really painful
oh yeah is 57.4k skill levels good or nah
probably good. i have 52k rn without the second Ac
yeah these are getting ridiculously expensive lmaoo
lol
I don't even know what jars are
Remind me, do mman claws work on w4/w5/w6? Do I need to stifle non-vman skill levels for higher eff?
no
No
Stuff like sailing you share levels anyway so it wouldn't matter regardless
scammed

Yeah, was more thinking stuff like cooking, or potentially sneaking.
i quit this

let me just check the anvil speed formula again
if it's too much cancer I won't make a calculator
i blackscreen too much 
good 150 bosses
Nah
yeah it's cancer
cant be that bad

btw name i guess was a good bubble to candyclick right? its 10k now i was thinking to go for 30k-50k
gambling fractal wheen
isn't name I guess dogsheet
i dont know tbh
can you compare the bonus you're getting from it compared to QS
I'm pretty sure QS will give you a lot more
killroy time
yeah but thats something you dont really candy click
if the difference is too high, nameIGuess is just going to be for inflating bubble numbers
idk what else to candy that will actually help me. call me ash and hammer hammer are useless
everything is screaming in my face huh
you can just do 100k hammer hammer and candy click the random anvil mats 
yeah i rather just wait for w7 then xd
does anyone still do emperor?
i stopped at 79. too lazy to change the gear
I think I've already let 200+ passes overflow lol
real
i wonder if w7 boss will have the same passes system
Hopefully not
i wonder if w7 will have a boss
If we look at a new player standpoint, 1.5 passes a day will take them forever to get anywhere with emp
yeah..its pretty annoying
I think daily quests from random w7 npcs to get tickets (more than 1.5 please) is better, also gives them a use after the mainquest
i also hope he will remove the statue cap. its horrible
Or just a ton of minibosses for more variation 
Pretty sure that's the entire point
Indeed
we have too much dr now for only 1m statue cap
Wait there's a statue cap?
Carry cap
Ohh
carry cap yeah
Nothing too worrying
That's a non issue as we have 100 inv slots
Nobody does DK these days anyways
does he know?
Dk master will change that extremely likely
By spamming a boomerang with every hit 
crashing every boomerang
Screw those high dr players
show all
i hate that its annoying to look at
hell naaaah
dont be shy
So much 
Yeah you fricking endgamer
pro
What a pro 
Can w7 crafts require billions of items, make exalting carry cap stamps necessary
xdd
Time for some hats ong
Best upgrade
True
Literally shaking hands
wakey wakey time for abuse
I'm never getting the later ones
Like fuck you mean 1/300,000,00+
I'll take my premium honker hat and be done with it
Whats the best for mid game ender captain option?
killroy best activity in idleon
I got speed bot and rare chest
i'd say loot value
take any ender captain you see, even if its dual cloud discovery rate
hey my atom collider is not triggering
I just turned it on and set the cap low
do I need to restart or something?
try changing the map
not working
then you don't have enough materials
killroy has been abused
5 digits!
How is your killroy upgrades looking?
around 120 time, 80 skulls, 10 respawn
Damn thats good
i won't be satisfied until 200 time is hit
I have 10k balls too saved but still no w7
imagine gball event won't even come with w7
ill cry
I fired all my arcade balls 2 weeks ago
30k
Damnn
Can anyone tell me where is the penguin
Don't suppose there's a way to fix alch and construction without completely negating the benefits mman being r1 would bring?
Current situation.
sir stache map
Is there even a benefit to getting them to R1, besides the exp bonus? Alch and Con both don't have a concept of efficiency
Efficiency = liquid gen, no?
Not afaik, that's just based on level
Ah, okay, so that doesn't matter then. Good to know.
Basically only matters for chopping mining catching fishing trapping and worship
The XP bonus would be the only thing in that case, which I'm pretty sure it does still benefit from.
But it's probably too much of a faff to micromanage to the point where it's irrelevant.
Very likely
guys is there a way to make it so every time you bread a pet it auto trashs it
Is there any actual text describing what the TSAR pet ability does in battle? it has seemed useless to me but now that i did a run for round 200 i saw that it does insane damage above ~13Q health and then doesn't do much below that
it does insane damage cause it has a very high base % of damage and that combines with alchemic VERY well
its the entire basis of the nuke pet team
alchemic stacks up to just murderate everything via tsars that has been duplicated via flashy
i dont have flashy or alchemic unlocked
spent like 2 hours doing 200 rounds, guess it's faster with those abilities
yeah i actually avoided unlocking them for fear of bricking some cookie cutter combo the sheet suggested
i'll unlock them now and forget about my 2 hours
nahhh having both of them is just better
the only problem is when you only have one unlocked
flashy crashes your game if alchemic cant trigger (who wouldve guessed if you keep multiplying by 2 you get very large amounts of projectiles)
i am currently getting vman for more cooking stuff
but ive also just realised that choco chip is going to be coming in stock in 8 days
so what should i do
should i panic and spend all of my ladles to unlock cheese and get 100 of it
or should i just get the pinion spurs and salts and just get the cheese after i get vman
i have 300 ladles in my chest btw
are you w4?
end of w5
getting vman will take me like 5 days - a week tops
also choco chip will come back next month so if its not a prio for you, you can take your time for that
vman is kinda a get asap maybe? 🤷♂️
tbh cheese is really easy to get as long as you upgrade dia chef bubble
cooking/breeding is full afk is the main thing
spice 
doesnt matter what ur chars are doing, only bm can help
it sounds like they alr have it?
yeah i have the spices
then yeah hard focus on getting level 11 plates
yeah but like after a while it cost more than you can produce
and upgrading the dia chef bubble
and in the mean time get vman unlocked on ur other chars
could 'manipulate' your bubbles so your NBLB always level up dchef too if you really want it
oh 🥀
thats really expensive though
cause my breeding is buns
doesnt vman have one talent that makes cooking much faster
well breeding gets better as soon as ur cooking gets better which is as soon as you do dia chef
alsoooooooooooo vman does jack shit to cooking for ages
also in case you don't do them, killing the summonable miniboss (w3+) with DK gives more loot, so if you kill mush (w4 miniboss) you can get some ladle
you need ab 800 total plate levels for blood marrow to do much
it starts really bad but gets really good the further you are
but that also takes forever
cause my cooking is buns
which gets better by upgrading dia chef
dia chef is the start of the cooking explosion and there is no way around it
ignore it and ur cooking will be bad for basically forever
yes but that many fish salts would take me days to get
for just 1 level
thats how much of a bonus i get to both fire speed and cooking speed from it alone
afaia that makes up like 95% of my fire speed
which is the main stat you want to unlock new meals
prisma'd?
yeah ofc, aint no way thats getting 2.8x otherwise
thoughhh why is it at 2.8?
wasnt it 2.6?
yes it wont be as large for you rn but it is a must. back when i just got it and started to get level 11 plates was when it was still like 1.1x per plate, and even that is insane till late cooking
IT and IE seems to show different bonus 
back when i was in w4
weird
extremely weird
Unrelated, but what's the star sign symbol for? 
its just when it reaches x% efficency
so 2701 would mean the bubble is 98% efficent
yes but
is 1.06x really gonna do that much
considering i can only get like 5 diamond plates in a reasonable amount of time
100% is the hard cap to all bubbles basically. minus linear ones anyways

yes as its multiplicative
Ahh gotcha.
do 1.06^5
and now imagine you upgrading dia chef even just 1 or 2 levels to make it 1.1x
even with dia chef at level 1 its amazing
Multiplicative bonuses are wild.
When 7w? 
2+ weeks
Finally something worth bringing me bak
In antimatter dimensions (great game btw), practically everything is multiplicative, and at the end of the game you're at exponents that need their own scientific notation to fit on the screen.
thats only 1.4x though 😭
for only 5 plates, now imagine getting more
you can easily get the first 3 rows done before unlocking cheese
that is 15 plates, which comes to closer to 3x
with dia chef at level 1
Uge 
now imagine an upgraded dia chef to even level 10
iirc its ab 1.13x at that stage
which then you can do 1.13^15
and you start to see it scale out of control very fast
i left my thing on cabbage for like a week
thats how long it took me to get cabbage 9
yeah and cabbage isnt the only meal speed meal
its also a bad meal if you dont upgrade ur kitchens
well if cabbage can get to 9, previous meal can get to 9+ 
this stat here
the green red and blue
thats what scales cabbage up
cabbage is overall pretty bad early on, cause you have a low income of spices
yes its nice but dia chef is vastly stronger for spice investment
Rush to w6, get DB, ribbon up 
also ac, to get the prisma bubble for dia chef
Ah yeah, true. If you can get it when you've rushed to w6.
Stuff takes a hot minute if you don't have the talent levels.
:(
so
i should spam my like 300 ladles on getting diamond plates
Just level up meal speed stuff first
Then everything else would he faster
Don't neglect your breeding either.
yeah so about that
Spill the beans, how bad is it. Spices are a major basis for cooking speed, especially early on. You don't want to miss that.
highest unlocked pet species are glublin and mimic
on the salts i just have 4 squirrels
on all of them
and my last unlocked salt is twilight desert
I'd probably advise focusing on that first. 
how does one do that
!guide check the pet tab, there are teams for arena, for spice territories and for spice production
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
DNA splicing, there's also a star sign, there's a jewel or two, etc.
tbh I find the pet tab so confusing
Like why are there multiple rows in the spices?
If it's a pressing thing, mind you. I wouldn't say "use the breedability star sign" if it wasn't literally for next week.
Hello mista dad of all
Alternating setups because of complicated genetics.
Sometimes the setup is a very specific one, which will be shown in notes.
so this is like the row above the spice I wanna focus on, the row of the spice, and the row below?
Think in many cases it's just blanket paste that pattern across the whole board.
And then switch which row is where based on what you need.
wat
Thanks mista dad of all
where can i unlock this
cant lol
This for example.
ah 
Alternating rows.
How can I defeat that stage, it one's hots everything except for borger, which takes 3 hits 😢
scroll on the right and you'll see the case where they apply 
It's been a few years since I had to look at this, but I believe the whale copies from the row above, as an example.
by not using those pets
Thx, dont have Shelby yet
use this one
@viral oxide
Also don't get hung up on the exact pets shown, any pet with that gene works.
well still dont use those, moonman potato and slime is all really bad
i dont have any monolith oet
you can try one of these two too (the teams to get 6th slot)
make sure to read the notes
alright will do, thx
How can I stop using badumdum at round 50 tho🤔
I can't disable badumdum auto when in battle
where do I get the fries lol
W2 secret, iirc?
is that a future upddate thing? or really hard asf to get 
look like a ww compass thing
If you are getting 2T/hr, with 3 WW
wtf
ts pmo 
why so slow 
what's taking bro so long 
Idk ask lava
bro should bath in dust at this point
i cant even get T of dust even use all my moon rn 
It's like
Extreme endgame status
I can only reach 1.1T at skydoggies
Some people are pushing 3T
We are just waiting for more resource
fun bug
Kinda impossible to push db and WW ATM
like 2hrs wasted, and my character cant comprehend the other platforms existance 

my db stuck at w5 cz acc and ww stuck at w4 cz the abom hp thick asf 
hoping future update will make it easier

of first day DB 
I might be blind but what bug are u talking about
ohh
Hi ash
Nah
i see
Seen the original long ago 
He didn't say ashy
fk u

Is this correct? I don't remember refinery costs scaling up that high for a single rank up.
Or wait, that's how much it requires to get to the point where you CAN rank up?
Can I check somewhere if that's something I should be doing, with the resources I'm currently printing?
Nvm my question, found everything I needed by reading.
Idleon players have evolved?
some things are better to be not said
bro almost made me bleed out
new guy
can't say
"new"









