midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[woeful karma]

when he is not in CC he is in lab

[hexed cairn]

well you probably want to unlock all gods before getting them out anyways

[woeful karma]

so oncei get div lv 40 i am set until i want to raise div level more or hole jail?

[radiant bison]

worst part of roo

[hexed cairn]

then if that's the case, everyone is stuck until all gods are unlocked

[woeful karma]

question
can i throw BB in jail until lv 2 and then just candy to NA kruk and kill it?

or is it more complicated then that

[hexed cairn]

you can do that

[woeful karma]

uge

[hexed cairn]

hole is just a timegate thing

can't really do anything about it.

[woeful karma]

yeah ill swing back to hole tho

i would have honestly though div jail would be long lasting or something

[radiant bison]

its literally just rng to be able to progress

[limpid bough]

idleon should explode actually

[hexed cairn]

div is only long lasting if you just enter w5 for the first time without doing any other thing

[radiant bison]

and it takes like 10secs per try

[hexed cairn]

but if you have other resource of stuff before entering, it becomes relatively easy

[radiant bison]

and you just sit there till blue fucking shows up

[stone dawn]

It's probably the only entertaining thing about roo probably imo

[woeful karma]

well everyone makes it so big
its one of the three great jails of idleon and all

[radiant bison]

my goal w/ roo is leave them on idle mode for days on end

[woeful karma]

and it sounds like div jail will last a fraction that Lab jail took

[hexed cairn]

because people dont have what you have when they first enter w5

[woeful karma]

(i am still in lab jail now )

(6 players forced in lab unless i wa nt to lose bonuses)

[stone dawn]

I will agree that I would like to never touch a clicker again

[radiant bison]

I like orion

roo not as much

[woeful karma]

to be fair
that didnt stop be from being stuck in lab jail

[hexed cairn]

lab jail is different

[woeful karma]

i unlocked full lab jail faster but i am still in it as we speak

[stone dawn]

yeah, orion progresses much faster which I like

[hexed cairn]

you have no access to lab exp

[hexed cairn]

when you first enter w4. but when you enter w5, if you have the meals unlocked, div isn't bad

[radiant bison]

given that im already effective max for orion for the base value for dr shows that

[woeful karma]

glad to hear

[radiant bison]

(the mult is still low af but thatll be fixed relatively fast)

[woeful karma]

ngl the biggest part of lab jail is no arctis

[hexed cairn]

that too

[woeful karma]

if i had arctis i would have 9 free players

[radiant bison]

it took 6 minutes to make roo idleable again

jeesus christ

[hexed cairn]

matybe its time to graduate w4

[woeful karma]

dw lava will be making the clickers easier to do whilst doing other parts othe game

[vernal hinge]

he still has a bit more to do

[radiant bison]

true

[woeful karma]

Qwaser will no longer have to leave her clammie grind to check roo or owl

[radiant bison]

oh peak

[woeful karma]

[hexed cairn]

i don't even grind clammies

i just sprinkle them with some candies

[woeful karma]

well whatever you grind youll be able to get it from easy access

[radiant bison]

soon™ I assume this last one is like the other one at the end of w2 stuff in this menu

[hexed cairn]

i don't even check roo or owl anymore

[stone dawn]

how long have you been on this reset?

[fair hare]

I do once in a while, lol.

[woeful karma]

yep

speaking of which i am almost to 50:pray

[radiant bison]

those prices are scary

[woeful karma]

i am in pain

[hollow cave]

it gets so much worse

[hexed cairn]

[hollow cave]

the good ol E29 max tier coins

[woeful karma]

t least ill be in a lot better spot once i finish this

[radiant bison]

I hope we get another soruce of this thingy

[woeful karma]

doesnt hole have one or somethin?

or was that owl?

[hollow cave]

if you mean clicker bonus, there is

[hexed cairn]

yeah but it's like... cavern 13

[hollow cave]

C14, gambit

[radiant bison]

thatll be a while

[hexed cairn]

14

[woeful karma]

thats liek what
3 days?
4 days?

[fair hare]

A while, don't remember exactly. I play it a weird way - I start with half my points on tar stuff and half on all upgrades (one each on the rest). Then I cycle through all of them the same way, e.g. shinies, blue fish, reduction, etc. But this next reset, I'm getting 107 fisharoo points, 29 tarfish points, plus all the regulars. It adds up. :P

[hexed cairn]

7 months

[woeful karma]

ok wbut what about for me

[radiant bison]

I spend more time waiting this in roo

[hexed cairn]

6 months.

[radiant bison]

than bluefish at this point

[woeful karma]

:(

[hexed cairn]

you can't escape hole grind

villager xp only obtainable through those means

[woeful karma]

i didnt think i would but i asusmed id be able to progress decently well

[fair hare]

Once I got all of the fish initially, I start every round with everything on Tarfish.

[woeful karma]

OH HO HO
YOU THINK BUT I HAVE SOME SOURCES ALREADY :D

[hexed cairn]

you do but

[radiant bison]

does this mult the perma bonuses from them or no?

[hexed cairn]

most of it comes from all the monumnet

[woeful karma]

sadly yea

[hollow cave]

no, as the description on the left states, it's the gains of the resource for the clicker

[radiant bison]

NaN

man has inf xp mult

[woeful karma]

OOO TRIM SLOT AND PARTICLE UPGRADES

[fair hare]

Hey, how/when do we get to the point where we can open the second set of PO crates?

[hollow cave]

NaN isn't necessarily infinite, it's just NaN (Not A Number) the value is failing to resolve

[woeful karma]

all the exp in the world but none to spend it on

[woeful karma]

which second set?
the W4 ones?

arena

[radiant bison]

oh yea the 0 NaN's also exist

[fair hare]

They show up but they are chained shut?

[woeful karma]

then the next set is via sailing iirc?

[hexed cairn]

but yeah to get to....cavern 14

it's a very long road.

[woeful karma]

some of those are from W4 whatchamacallit

[fair hare]

Oh, ack. Between Arena (which I suck at) and Sailing (which I'm ignoring) guess it'll be a while. I don't have any of 'em open.

[hollow cave]

yea what a program does with NaN I imagine just varies by program but it's just for [some] reason failing to resolve as a number

[radiant bison]

5 more till multikill per tier is unlocked good riddance

[woeful karma]

you just need decent breeding

[fair hare]

I hate you, as usual. 🤣

[woeful karma]

does it make you feel any better if i said i finished round 200 months ago? :p

[hexed cairn]

@woeful karma this are the xp required

UNLESS you bought out the gemshop for explorer multi xp,

[woeful karma]

uhh
what is thius for again?

[radiant bison]

hole

[woeful karma]

ahh

[hexed cairn]

hole

[woeful karma]

uh
maybe
idk

[fair hare]

That's weird. I actually have the 5th spot, but I don't remember seeing a crate before that. I must be blind.

[woeful karma]

i remember talking with K10 about what my gemshop gooals should be

but i dont remember the hole stuff

[hexed cairn]

plinko balls

[woeful karma]

lmao i wish

[hexed cairn]

true gamble mindset

[woeful karma]

i donthave that many gems

ill have to hard gemgrind before i go to W5

i do have a shit ton of doot eyes and baggie religesc

[hexed cairn]

should save them

untiul you get picklekun

[radiant bison]

barb stats is this decent for w3?

[hexed cairn]

so...another 5 months?

[radiant bison]

(hes stuck at frogs lmao)

[woeful karma]

idc ill burn that bridge when i get to ti later
thats a W6 thingy and i will need the gems for W5

[hexed cairn]

gems?

[woeful karma]

i mean
if your offering to chip in a dime im sure we could start up a nice collective buy gems for zuiq W5 gem shop upgrades fund :D

[hexed cairn]

ok time to take all your cakes

[woeful karma]

if everyone ofered a but a single dime to said fund id be able to buy out all W5 gemshop i assume

[hollow cave]

it's enough damage to oneshot (350k hp) the final W3 enemy although accuracy wouldn't not be high enough to have a good hit rate

[woeful karma]

ill bump it down to a nickle if you only take half
sound fair?

[hollow cave]

so if starting W3 should be more than enough, you'll need to make sure to shore up the acc before the end though

[hexed cairn]

i'll think about it in my dreams

[woeful karma]

lol aight fair enough

[fair hare]

lmao - I think I just didn't unerstand how they work. It looks like it'll let me add to them. I'll check it tomorrow. If that's the case I'm going to slam my head into a wall, 'cause I needed those stats. Sheesh.

[woeful karma]

sleep well and have a great rest of your night then

[fair hare]

Later. :)

[woeful karma]

you too

bai~

urnealted but i like how it just looks like someone stole the whole gate

[fleet crater]

whats the best way to farm pearls for wedding cake?

[woeful karma]

if we are talking activly i assume DK?

[fleet crater]

would elemental sorcerer not be better?

[woeful karma]

ah wait

my b
yeah i always forget that it is a secondary main drop not a rare drop

i think ES then yea?

unsure
you just missed the perfect person to ask lol

[hexed cairn]

[fleet crater]

lol, ye Kaidi litterally has the clam in his name

[hollow cave]

oh yea for sake of it if you're curious on all the rewards

[woeful karma]

tho DR is important

of which DK gets heavily loaded due to orb

[hexed cairn]

btw zui. if you unlock gambit before w6

[woeful karma]

i really like the ribon one

[hollow cave]

the super notable ones being Doublers, Upgrade stone, Ribbon Combine and Wizard tower max levels I'd say personally but the rest are still very nice

[fleet crater]

wish stuff like lost battery and all that were printable 🙁

[woeful karma]

sadly its either candy or active

[hexed cairn]

it's not even active

[woeful karma]

it gets easier later

[hexed cairn]

it's just candy

[woeful karma]

true

[vernal hinge]

zuiq are you moving to w5? i just came back but i see you talking a lot about w5

[fleet crater]

a 12 hour candy only gets me 288 🙁

[woeful karma]

i just remembered activing DK/ES

[hexed cairn]

then you're too early for it

[woeful karma]

the time is close but not too close

[fleet crater]

got 80 dr

[hexed cairn]

what about your afk %

mob respawn %?

[fleet crater]

448

dont know how to check that

[woeful karma]

i am starting to reach out my tendrils to seak word of W5 knowledge

[vernal hinge]

will definitely be before w7 unless lava is telling the truth

[woeful karma]

unsure

probs after?

[hollow cave]

W7 is in less than a month, I can't imagine Zui will get through all the things doable in W4 in such time

[hexed cairn]

are you trying to get 10k golden cakes for beanstalk?

[woeful karma]

i still have more things id like to do

it is WW time
wish me 2k kills luck

[fleet crater]

I've been at samurai for like 3 months and only just recently got to breeding level 80

[woeful karma]

thats 4 more levels then me!

[vernal hinge]

2k kills? wow

[woeful karma]

wait no 5 my b

[fleet crater]

to be fair I could have tried more

[hexed cairn]

i probably get this to 12 before w7 comes out

[hollow cave]

I hope we have some faster way to consume eggs at some point

[woeful karma]

i need 2k pelase i need the luck XD

[fleet crater]

and ye

[hollow cave]

I have 12k and I really don't want to even try to burn through all of those

[hexed cairn]

then i guess it's ok then.

[fleet crater]

bro

[woeful karma]

im neglecting :(

[fleet crater]

i'd be surprised if anybody has done that...

[hexed cairn]

i get 2k pearls per hour so

nah no one is clinically insane for get 1b pearls yet

[fleet crater]

so what thats 500000 hours

[hexed cairn]

urgh 100m is like 100k hours of candy for me

[true hamlet]

Tried shattershelling all for maximum gains?

[hollow cave]

at 2k per hour, yea that would be 500k hours

[hexed cairn]

so... 1m hours

[fleet crater]

so 1k per hour

[hexed cairn]

[fleet crater]

that sounds fun

[hollow cave]

I considered the idea, and I'd go insane

[hexed cairn]

nah you know

[fleet crater]

I'm already cringing at the idea of 60000 for the nothing island

[hexed cairn]

with that many candies i might actually reach shrine 40

provided it waws shrine xp ballot day

[fleet crater]

😮

I got like shrine 23 *

[true hamlet]

Mine only 28 I think

[hexed cairn]

jiof when are you logging on for w7

[hollow cave]

like even if I could consume eggs one by one for shattershell without leaving the breeding menu AND it autotrashed it would still be multiple tens of thousands of clicks to use them all

[true hamlet]

When w7 drops I'm candying the hell lot of dumplings

[woeful karma]

itk is a struggle

[indigo stratus]

What I did... was use couple hundred at time, til eggs leveled to plat to void

[true hamlet]

To be fair, I've done a lot of things that requires tens of thousands of clicks

[woeful karma]

i dont think ima make it chat

[hollow cave]

yea I mean I could I just really don't want to

[fleet crater]

but if you use math to caculate it, if each egg has a 60% to make 2 more, thats on average 2.2 eggs per egg, and thats forgetting the fact that each egg after the fact can still make another

so you'd be more than decently doubling your eggs and maybe almost tripling

[true hamlet]

I think each PO is 3 clicks to do an order, since I did 28k in a day, that' 84k clicks lol

[woeful karma]

:(

[white path]

Trying to get 2000 for equinox?

[deft gale]

for spices, did the needing power from combat pets get changed at some point?

[white lintel]

yes

[robust marsh]

Hello fellow animal

[robust marsh]

Also hello to you fellow animal

Then hello to zuiq and jio

[robust marsh]

You dont need combat pets for spice anymore i think that how it is

For gathering spice

[deft gale]

yeah i guess that part of the guide is out of date

[hollow cave]

yea in the same idea of crystals you can consider teh chance to consume instead of the chance to get a spare (40%) which itself would multiple gains by 2.5x, due to getting 1 extra per activation that lacks this chance you would need to consider the approximate proc rate (which I think can just act as doubling the bonus so increasing to 4x)

Considering a real scenario you could say you use 100 eggs, 60 of those would proc into 2 more eggs, of those 60 procs 36 of them would proc again, then 21.6 then 12.96 then 7.776 then 4.6656 then 2.79936 then 1.679616 then 1.0077696 giving you ~ 100+(148.4883456*2) = 396.9766912, which realistically is presumably approaching a 4x multiplier given infinite as the expected above

so tldr maxed shattershell is basically quadrupling eggs if used one by one

variance will come into play more the lower sample you use of course

[woeful karma]

the power of one Pmush

[hollow cave]

the crystal reference to clarify is that because choco chip is a 75% to replicate you can instead consider it that you have a 25% chance to wholly kill a given crystal so you effectively on average get 4 crystals per crystal

instead of needing to see the limit that 0.75 approaches when triggering repeatedly

[robust marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[reef moon]

finaly unlocked time for some jail then first atempt

[hollow cave]

wisdom is pretty chill, you can also don't really need its 24k bonus

in the sense that it's useful but you can pretty easily get 12-14 with only 10k hours which is already notably past the threshold for getting the highest reward type (wisdom bonus multi which requires wave 9+)

[woeful karma]

i have good news yash btw

15 mins in and ive already reached flombs without cnady :D
also lv 350 already lmao

[reef moon]

i just wana unlock and finish as much shit as possible till w7 tbh

[solid steppe]

what elite classes should i go for first?

(i just got DK)

[hollow cave]

makes sense, yea it's good to get time into it

C14 and C15 are both quite significant for stuff so getting them when reasonable timewise is good

[vernal hinge]

everytime you send a pic im more and more shocked

[woeful karma]

dw its slowing down

[vernal hinge]

like even just the amount of money like i get that xp from like 10 of my highest mob

[woeful karma]

if you want money btw youll have to look at my fully kitted out DK or ES with money pendent lol

but i wont do that rn bc i am powerleveling this beast

i would assume that id hit 1000Q at the least with that setup

this is with my 10th player rn

[vernal hinge]

i don't even hit 10M lmao

[woeful karma]

on my BB rn

[minor scroll]

aw

[woeful karma]

ello scylthe~

[minor scroll]

hai

[woeful karma]

did you hear the good news!

[minor scroll]

I didnt

[minor scroll]

so u finally activate the lv 1 wizard

[woeful karma]

tahtj was 1pmush 30 mins ago

[normal portal]

cn anyone give me some tips to minmax breeding? I js saw chocolate chip is coming into shop soon and i need the mountain salt to be able to unlock cheese

[minor scroll]

dam

[woeful karma]

its state rn

[minor scroll]

already better than me

[woeful karma]

ngl ts wierd seeing skullless

by the time i check DN ive already gotten bare min of all skulls at that world lmao

[minor scroll]

im noobie

just do that for the achievement

[woeful karma]

lol

man its hard to believe that going from 390>401 took like 10+ days of active Dram killing on my Mman and it took my ES 40minutes to go from 0 to 402

[honest cradle]

vman on mustaches

[robust marsh]

Dragon warrior onyx done

[honest cradle]

What a rough killroy

[woeful karma]

damn

[honest cradle]

These things take a while to add up

[robust marsh]

Ye it's only Been 4 days since I unlocked sanctum

[woeful karma]

man i cant wait to unlock dragon statues and hopfully onyx em within a reasonable amount of time

(hopefully)

[robust marsh]

I get like 500 every 10 somthing hours

On 1 ch

[true hamlet]

Should be reasonably easy to onyx

[robust marsh]

Others from200 to 300

[woeful karma]

so ill probably be looking at around 100/h/player

[minor scroll]

prob 1 week

[hollow blade]

Anyone have max talent book sources table?

[minor scroll]

!maxtalents

[candid scarab]

Struggling to find out how to raise the level of your talent points to hit that next threshold? Trickzbunny and jiof made this fancy sheet that will let you know what you're missing and how to get it!

[true hamlet]

Wowie

[vernal hinge]

wth ashley even i have better skulls

[hollow blade]

Love you ashley @minor scroll

[robust marsh]

Onyxing dargon statues buffed my other statues quite good

[true hamlet]

No love to me gonna revoke everyone's access to that document

[woeful karma]

darn i was a step late

[robust marsh]

Yes but they have ss

[true hamlet]

Fair

[woeful karma]

wait question is mine outdated?

yes i think it is?

[true hamlet]

To some extent

[minor scroll]

there isnt a gshard set

[honest cradle]

https://imgur.com/V2cMexg

[woeful karma]

ty for formating and ty j/trickz for its existence

[hollow blade]

Thanks guys

[woeful karma]

i shall use this later to check to see roughly what a better guestimate of what talent max lv ill be lookin at in W5

[honest cradle]

someone made it so may as well use it

[minor scroll]

like ~350 I hope

[woeful karma]

thats what i was thinkin

400 will be out of reach unless i mega grind and lava gives me more

[true hamlet]

Should give more

[woeful karma]

more that i can actually get/use*

[true hamlet]

Expanding every* mech means more salt lick surely

[minor scroll]

3rd page salt lick

[hollow cave]

it was a most more than "all" given saying "the amount of things not updated would be faster to list" or whatever was said specifically implies there are things left
That being said I would expect page 3 to be added given it's just kind of sitting there with nothing on it

[true hamlet]

Ye

[woeful karma]

OH BOY AM I HEARING NEW FORGE UPGRADES

[true hamlet]

[violet elm]

Forge upgrade?

I thought this day would never come

[solid steppe]

how should i upgrade ES?

[violet elm]

Depends were you are in the game

[solid steppe]

w4

[minor scroll]

!talents

[candid scarab]

Having issues understanding how to best use your talents? This guide should be able to break things down. Use the tabs at the top to navigate to whichever class you're currently struggling with and it should become much less overwhelming.

[violet elm]

You're probably starting to struggle on damage and accuracy use amarok gear it's gonna help you a lot and you can check accuracy guides for ways to increase it

[true hamlet]

Waiting for w8

[solid steppe]

actually its defence and accuracy, but accuracy isn't that big of a problem rn, mostly defence

[minor scroll]

@woeful karma my tuttle is done

[honest cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-moinyin-gif-17650219494522746380

[minor scroll]

before

after

[indigo stratus]

Nearly 120 🎉

[honest cradle]

Speaking of I am getting close

[true hamlet]

Wowie, 3-5 more days

[jovial shard]

Do yall know why my game keeps crashing with this pet build? I get to around ~80 and then Boom, frozen. Highest I got was 148 and then froze, what should i do about it?

[white lintel]

do you have flashy unlocked?

or alchemic rather

[woeful karma]

uge

[minor scroll]

u should follow !guide if u want to get to 200

[robust marsh]

Hey zuiq w5 when

[woeful karma]

ello yash

uh
good question
soonishTM
like a month or so I assume?

[robust marsh]

Soonishtm?

[woeful karma]

current goal is EQ dreams

going wellisu

wellish*

final player at 420 rn
almost to 70B/100B gmush kills

[robust marsh]

You not doing every dream are you

[woeful karma]

still far from 2k killroy kills sadly

unsure if that will be w4

[robust marsh]

I am myself on those dreams myself

[indigo stratus]

100b in w4? You know equinox wasnt out in w4, right?

[woeful karma]

as many as I reasonably can

[woeful karma]

yep

well
no but I knew it came in later post w3

[robust marsh]

2k killoroy will take time

[robust marsh]

Whats your highest

[woeful karma]

im at 1500ish on WW

need to work more on respawn next i think

[robust marsh]

Same but on ac

[robust marsh]

I would recommend doing more time for now

Then about 20-25 respawn

[woeful karma]

i was going to push time to 50 then respawn to 25

tempted to airhorn ngl
there is no Vman run this week

[robust marsh]

Are you doing daily 150 bosses?

[woeful karma]

unfortunately no

im missing out on 100 daily gems i know
or whatever it was?

hopfully ill start doing them soon

[robust marsh]

Yes you should start as soon as you can

[woeful karma]

it takes a decent chunk of time

but yeah
atleast i hyave troll now

[robust marsh]

About 10-20 min

[woeful karma]

unlike before where i only had keylocked bosses

[robust marsh]

Yes farm those keys

[heavy spear]

Hello, for DK i usually dont level it up thinking I can just max it when taking samples and then take it back to 0, but am i doing it right? or does it need to be max all the time for the oitput to be greater?

[robust marsh]

That enough to do daily boss for montsd

[woeful karma]

does dashtell me amount of daily boss kills?

[woeful karma]

its print output

[robust marsh]

IT YES

[woeful karma]

not sample size

print output is always

[heavy spear]

so it needs to be levelled ip at all time?

[woeful karma]

sample size is only when the sample is made (caps at 90%)

yep.

dw youll get more talent points

[robust marsh]

It needs points in the telent to work

Also if you can get a good telent lvl for that telent

[woeful karma]

easeist way to tell is that this would go to 0x or vanish when no points are invested
idk which

[robust marsh]

Also zuiq how many orb kills u got

[heavy spear]

also for this in tab 3, i can just put it back to 0 after maxing my str on tab 1 right?

[heavy spear]

where is this?

[robust marsh]

Printer

[woeful karma]

printer tab

[woeful karma]

yep
same with Vman's version

[robust marsh]

Never tried

[robust marsh]

Good kills

But I was asking zuiq

[heavy spear]

this?

does it work for this character's output only?

or all samples taken

[woeful karma]

everyone iirc

[robust marsh]

That telent only works on 1 ch

[stray snow]

what is the ???? one

[heavy spear]

hmmm

[woeful karma]

its DK's output exclusive?

[heavy spear]

oh sorry

[robust marsh]

No I mean the telent

[woeful karma]

or you mean it only coutns 1 player's worth

yeah thats what i was thinking

[robust marsh]

Yes

[heavy spear]

I am confused

[robust marsh]

2 dk only 1dk counts

[woeful karma]

tldr
if you max the talent on your first DK you dont need to max it on the second dk

it counds the account wide orb kills

and it will pull the bonus from whichever player has higher talent level

[heavy spear]

ok so, if i have 2 dk, only 1 needs to max it out, csz the second one wont count. and when i max it, ALL(all my character's samples) get output increase yes?

[woeful karma]

yes i think?

[heavy spear]

dam

[stray snow]

what is name of boss im missing does anyone know?

[heavy spear]

I thought i can just max it when taking samples and then delete it, i was wrong

[woeful karma]

IT tells me that at least

[woeful karma]

your htinking of sample size

[heavy spear]

what is this now

[woeful karma]

troll?

[woeful karma]

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[heavy spear]

yeah, but i read today its output, and was like, i need to ask

[stray snow]

where do I find it?

[woeful karma]

final map

stilted seekers
slightly hard to miss

[woeful karma]

where btw

[heavy spear]

also, lets say i max this output thing on section 2 of my talesnts, then switch to secon 1, will it still work, or i need to level there too?

[woeful karma]

youll need it on preset 2 if your using preset 2

[robust marsh]

I show you just a sec

[woeful karma]

it doesnt take stuff from preset 1 in mose cases

[woeful karma]

ah aight ty

[deft gale]

isn't it hte slush in world 3

[woeful karma]

ah i found it

[heavy spear]

ok thank you

[woeful karma]

that is the dilapitdated slush miniboss from w3's refrogeration station
aka the bloques map iirc?
or wast it hte mamooths?

[pine fiber]

bloques

[robust marsh]

Blue icecream

[stray snow]

I see blue ice cream snow in top right of map

[woeful karma]

one of these two maps iirc

[pine fiber]

stop screaming

[stray snow]

how do you spawn it

[robust marsh]

Yes

[woeful karma]

drop the crafted snow bucket onto it

[robust marsh]

Snow bucket

[stray snow]

W thank you so much

[pine fiber]

you, sir, a master crafter of fine cutlery

[woeful karma]

will higher DR on the boss kills help the gem drops or not really

[woeful karma]

ty ty

[robust marsh]

Nope i dont think dr matters here

[woeful karma]

cool ill just run it on my shoddy es then

[robust marsh]

Chances are somthing 60-70% per kill idk

[robust marsh]

Once u kill troll a lot of time he will just let u kill him

[stray snow]

Do you know how many times the snow monster boss slush thing spawns

[woeful karma]

i hit that on day 1 i think

[woeful karma]

it depends on how many you have stored

just drop like 10 or so buckets and youll be fine

[pine fiber]

1 is enough

[woeful karma]

its like 1 every 2 or so days but can stack but as it stacks more it gets slower iirv

[pine fiber]

for every miniboss spawn

[woeful karma]

oh shit really?

[pine fiber]

yes

[woeful karma]

didnt know that part

[stray snow]

1 worked I mean how long until I can fight again

[woeful karma]

2-3 days iirc?

mayeb 4?

[stray snow]

thanks

[woeful karma]

ah my b

[pine fiber]

just check toolbox/ie if they have access

[woeful karma]

4 it was

[woeful karma]

it tells you on the dash and they didnt even know what it was so i assumed they didnt use it
but yeah IT dash board will tell you

[stray snow]

I skipped so many quests and bosses and stuff so its good coming back now and easier to do 🙂

[deft gale]

so how do you get more infinite star signs?

[woeful karma]

shiny pet levels

wiki or IT will tell you

and on that note
time to do daily boss kills
I will be back

[hollow blade]

guys how fast your combustion rate? its refinery salt on the first page, i get 1 minute 48 second, can i go faster?

[deft gale]

oh i thought there was something i was missing on the rift page about infinites -.-
blah not at shiny pets yet

[near lava]

God damn bro go kill those

[woeful karma]

it's a damn 30m uphill battle

but for the sake of gems or something idk

[heavy spear]

Hello, how to know whats the rate of my salt production?

[near lava]

You can't onetap slush?

[woeful karma]

slush?

[woeful karma]

look at it the second after it hits 1/0 seconds left on the timer

or just use IT

[near lava]

When I said "God damn bro go kill those" I was referring to this

[woeful karma]

ohh my b

[heavy spear]

no i mean, my combustion cycle is 2 min 30 second. and i am on 12l/14l for my next refine

[woeful karma]

yeah I'll do that after I finish my daily Voss kills

[woeful karma]

L?

[heavy spear]

K*

[woeful karma]

ah

[heavy spear]

my keyboard is bit mess, sorry

[woeful karma]

all good

your rate of sale production should be the "power" number that is shown when you click the view ranks Vuitton

button*

or use IT
it displays it more comprehensibly

[heavy spear]

i dont understand what I am seeing

[woeful karma]

power per cycle is 10

so 10 red salt per cycle

power cap is 280

[minor scroll]

each cycle cost 14x the number of rank 1, the cap is 280x of rank 1, 10x the salt or cycle of rank 1

[heavy spear]

wait

so they will take 140 * 14 every 2 min 30 second (1 cycle)?

[minor scroll]

they will take 140 per cycle

[deft gale]

is there any tricks for the skull point rifts?
they seem to be very slow

[minor scroll]

use bubo

[deft gale]

over sb?

[heavy spear]

oh 14 times of rank 1, and rank 1 was 10, so 14 * 10 = 140?

[minor scroll]

yep

[minor scroll]

yep

rank 1 cap is 50 so in rank 6 cap is 50*280

[deft gale]

okay i'll give that a shot

[heavy spear]

so like, if 2m30s is my cycle, and each cycle i need 140, then i need 140*24 = 3360 caps per hour? (because 24 cycles in an hour)

[deft gale]

blah looks like sb is faster

[radiant bison]

why I want multikill per tier so badly

[honest cradle]

w3 statues suck btw

[compact pagoda]

candy that shi out

[minor scroll]

candy

[radiant bison]

also closing in on the final of these

[robust marsh]

That thing is hurting somthing inside me so please get it better

[radiant bison]

wanna see the stats that created this horror?

[compact pagoda]

what are u implying

[robust marsh]

Noo

[compact pagoda]

i did that shi with 30/ per candy

[robust marsh]

Avg W1 stats

[compact pagoda]

w2

[radiant bison]

Id say its w2

[robust marsh]

W1

[radiant bison]

they havnt changed much since w2

[honest cradle]

that isnt enough to make candying make sense

[robust marsh]

Alchemy

[radiant bison]

fun fact this used to be end of w3 stats

[radiant bison]

yea I did alot of alch in w2

[robust marsh]

Not a lot......

[radiant bison]

for w1-2 standards I did

[compact pagoda]

can confirm

[radiant bison]

this shit was so expensive

[minor scroll]

active es then

[robust marsh]

Wait a min w2 players should ask questions in w2 chat

[honest cradle]

o shucks, thnx

[radiant bison]

Im a w3 player

[robust marsh]

....

[radiant bison]

ive been grinding out the first stuff of w3

[robust marsh]

Pls start working on your charectors

[minor scroll]

charectors

[radiant bison]

my main goals atm

that and the 2 clickers

fucking finally

atleast its an instant jump up

my barb grinding out kills/hr will make this go up mor

[compact pagoda]

i should evade

[radiant bison]

I dont think yash understands how dogshit early multikill is anymore

most I can do is slowly grind up multikill per tier %

best I got is this on my wizard

and its still pretty weak

[rain dome]

can anyone help with XxX_Cattleprod_XxX quest?

[radiant bison]

I can do S 6 fold

whats the saying I need to do again?

[rain dome]

someone helps me already but thanks

[radiant bison]

ah ok

[compact pagoda]

hahaha

[radiant bison]

best I scrounged up was 41/hr

base was like 16/hr

[compact pagoda]

dw u get better soon

[quiet crane]

oh mein gott @minor scroll @mossy anvil :o

[compact pagoda]

haha pro

[radiant bison]

meanwhile me w/ literally just jman having traps

[minor scroll]

thats nice

is this time for 301?

[quiet crane]

now i just need mittens

[radiant bison]

this is hell

yea thatd explain it

gonna have to do 25k kills all first huh

[quiet crane]

no prayers to help w anything?

[radiant bison]

I just entered w3 yesterday or the day b4 time has been a bit fast for me as ive been a bit busy besides today

so no

[quiet crane]

oh ok

dont worry about death note too much yet

if u dont need w1 stuff dont do w1 rn

just for the sake of death note

[radiant bison]

I need w1 stuff

salts

I wanna atleast get red salt off the ground

I have 1 char doing 100% of w1 deathnote stuff rn

poor lad stuck at frogs, jman is getting mats for gold gear real quick while the others kinda just level(and money for the vault) grind trying to ensure they dont out level jman

My clickers have progressed decently but for roo its just a slog bc going too fast loses progress later 🙁

[quiet crane]

jman 4th

[radiant bison]

dont worry bout it

I got 6th char same hour

[quiet crane]

bro u dont have an archer

wym dont worry about it

[radiant bison]

7th slot

[quiet crane]

ye

[radiant bison]

this is easy to do I just havnt

Im not trying to rush the game anyways

[quiet crane]

jman is usually 7th cuz its quite useless early on

[minor scroll]

let them play the game

[quiet crane]

shut up sam

it took me like 2 years to get to w5 so dw

but i didnt push in amarok at least

[radiant bison]

amarok?

[quiet crane]

ye

[radiant bison]

what is this gear you speak of?

[quiet crane]

amarok armor?

[radiant bison]

I was being sarcastic

[minor scroll]

this

[quiet crane]

oh ok

[radiant bison]

I just havnt crafted gear at all besides the weapons

[quiet crane]

spear is unironically quite cool tbh

[radiant bison]

Give up on life pants my beloved

[quiet crane]

hell no

[radiant bison]

(I have 312313 of them please help)

my dr is over 2

[quiet crane]

i have 312313^312313

[radiant bison]

this was inevitable

[quiet crane]

use filter bro

[radiant bison]

do I have that already?

[quiet crane]

ye ofc

[radiant bison]

this is my entire gear for my strongest dude

[quiet crane]

i think u already have it in w1

[quiet crane]

yo Ash how are u gang

💔

[quiet crane]

sheesh

[radiant bison]

is this enough hp?

[quiet crane]

maybe

[radiant bison]

I somehow got 1 tapped

[quiet crane]

💔

[radiant bison]

with this hp when my def was like 10

[quiet crane]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-polar-bear-walking-lila-and-bee-gif-12970824461453137689

@minor scroll get mittens noob

[radiant bison]

I have like none of these pets besides this one someone gifted me, a frog and a quenchie

but I feel like im doing decent

only pain is no sheepie

[quiet crane]

u started 2 weeks ago or sum?

[minor scroll]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1416496957865721997

[quiet crane]

let them play how they want

fookin nerd

[radiant bison]

Ill prob stay in w3-4 for a while

ysee my owl isnt at beyond 60%(at 30% w/ like 0 fractal) dr yet therefore no reason to progress

[quiet crane]

wym no reason, owl is just a little extra help, its not ur priority

[radiant bison]

drop rate 🤤

[quiet crane]

u get more droprate with gear, stats and stuff

[radiant bison]

Im mostly getting it up for the +all stat in reality thats my acc source rn

while I wait for roo to fucking exist

I just got deathnote today

and I wanna get my mkt to like 20% in w1 atleast b4 moving on to w2 to do the same

[radiant bison]

but gear requires making 6 copies

thats a bit annoying compared to do clicker once maybe if you feel like it today

only gear im making rn is gold armor for maestro

[quiet crane]

u can make it later too cuz the gear u gotta craft starts at w4 tbh

im done

[radiant bison]

this was a good use

of 100% of my gems right?

the dual slot thingy

[compact pagoda]

hmmm

[radiant bison]

Im assuming this is for whales/really really old accs?

for the most part

[compact pagoda]

just bad character selection"
nothing else

[radiant bison]

btw

only one of my classes has skilled at all

[compact pagoda]

speak up

[radiant bison]

this guy besides printing click once n print has done 100% of all skill mat collecting

I should be doing that right?

so he doesnt get out leveled in skills

I have decent baby's first prints for these 2 anyways

[candid creek]

Well it doesn't matter right now

That's a journeyman right?

[willow edge]

Yeah it doesn’t hurt

||And you need skill levels for maestro ||

[dense pine]

the complete class redo? dont know about that, got one myself as a safety net for when the rest of the master classes come out

everything else on that page, even whales wouldnt touch it

[candid creek]

No just with masterclasses coming out the meta changes and people might want diff classes

Also, I wouldn't use it

A lot of the time, using that, breaks that character. So whenever you try and use it again, your game crashes

[sharp nova]

What is a good speed comp for arena 100 for tome score? I have the snail meta for pushing but that is of course slow as hell

[sharp nova]

Have not seen that before. Thank you

[karmic tartan]

any tips for this?

[random wyvern]

use mimic, rattler, 2 refiller

mimic front row, then refiller 1, refiller 2 ratller last. should be able to clean all stages with this comp

oh yeah i forgot the burger, use burger on 1st slot

mimic 2nd

[karmic tartan]

should i use goblin or stick as refiller?

[random wyvern]

both

[karmic tartan]

ok

[random wyvern]

also, wait for the first attack of the boss to time it with the mimic shield

then u can auto

[karmic tartan]

so when the attack comes towards me, i click the mimic ability?

[random wyvern]

more like, when the attack hits your pet, the shield must be passing throug him

[karmic tartan]

ok

[random wyvern]

for ratller u can use sand giant

[karmic tartan]

this good?

[random wyvern]

yup

[karmic tartan]

ok

[random wyvern]

time the first attacks and then u can afk

[karmic tartan]

it attacks too fast

my mimic cant keep up

[random wyvern]

wait

start the battle, fill the bar

then restart

[karmic tartan]

for fucks sake

i cant do anything

[random wyvern]

if ur not able to

change 1 refiller with monolith

put goblin first

then mono

[karmic tartan]

i cant win

this fuckass worm attacks too often and my pets are shit

[candid creek]

For territory? Hell no

Borgir pet is only for arena

In territory they can just one hit, and borgir is only used for it's health in the arena

[karmic tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-why-you-little-gif-17376912

[random wyvern]

lols i cleared with this comp till last one. borger is just to avoid 1st att

[candid creek]

I never used that

!guide maybe try these

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[random wyvern]

literraly

[candid creek]

This is what the guide says, this is what I used (it was a while ago)

[random wyvern]

borger on 4 slots wut

[candid creek]

And this is what will work

[candid creek]

It's alright if the first dude dies

[candid creek]

To be fair, that's pretty stupid cause of how slow it is

But it will still work

[random wyvern]

after 5 slots yeah

[candid creek]

Always

[candid creek]

@karmic tartan

[karmic tartan]

wat

[candid creek]

Use that for territories

Until you get all 6 slots

Use these when you have 6 slots

[twin knot]

how exactly do i do this also have i unlocked the abilty to drop staues to get onyx style?

[candid creek]

The one on the left is better, but you might not have peapod pet (the dog, it's in world 4 pets), so use the one on the right in that case

And the dead one on the right is just the wooden stick, it's a refiller, it's fine if it dies same with the one on the left

[twin knot]

wait veto the second part i just saw the hammer in my inv

[karmic tartan]

WOW TIMESTOP SO FAST

my first refiller died

holy shit no way

[random wyvern]

dw, it would eventually.

[karmic tartan]

ambatubeatit

[random wyvern]

the point is getting to perma stopping time

[karmic tartan]

i beat it

ok now which pets do i get for the territory

@candid creek i beat it

[candid creek]

Well done!

[candid creek]

Use the guide

[karmic tartan]

i cant read

[candid creek]

Use the first link, go to the Pets tab

And it has different things based on your progression

[karmic tartan]

what do i click

[candid creek]

Pets

I'm not helping more than that it's a guide

And it's really annoying since I'm on mobile rn

[karmic tartan]

yes king

[minor scroll]

candy gshard, yes

the quest before that gives u the onyx tool so u can drop on the golden statue

[waxen grove]

What armor should i use on world 4

[candid creek]

Amarok

You should use amarok from world 2-6

[waxen grove]

So I'm gonna use the amarok for the of the game

[candid creek]

No

Use amarok until you permanently unlock set bonuses

Which can be done by playing the game everyday for a month (not in order)

[dense fable]

I am pushing to lvl 120 trapping, a turtle trap ( 20 hours ) gives only 1 Billion XP ( 8 Billion /day in total )

is that normal or am I lacking somewhere in trapping ?

cause that means I need some weeks to get to 120

[main kestrel]

Well mine is still bugged and can’t figure out how to fix it. I’m having overflow issues even while on pc. So it will take 10x longer than it should to hit 120

[true hamlet]

You're definitely missing base critter sources somewhere

[candid summit]

OOH does "find party" no longer warp you to the w1 dungeon??

[candid creek]

??? You can only press find party IN the dungeon

[dense fable]

I found only these , I pushed them as high as I can

[candid creek]

It warps you to... I think the most full dungeon of what dungeon you're in

[candid summit]

i thought pressing it in the w2 and w3 dungeons still took you to w1

so i never used it in them

[candid creek]

Don't think that ever happened

[candid summit]

maybe it was an old bug

[minor scroll]

in ww too I think

[candid summit]

it happened to me i mean

[candid creek]

But if you want help with those dungeons, use #party-finder-👪 to find help

[true hamlet]

WW has something too, get the WW critter upgrade to 50+ and 200+ crops, should be straightforward to push xp higher

[dense fable]

ooo right ty, lets check that

[ashen steppe]

wait isnt the weekly boss rotation meant to be the eyeball thingy

[candid creek]

Oh nvm idk

[candid creek]

Or find help in like, gen chat or these questions channels

[main kestrel]

Isn’t there a WW unlock that helps with base critters?

Nevermind. I was lagging

[dense fable]

ye, got this
and got 192 crops found

[true hamlet]

ah you could get that higher

[candid creek]

More

[true hamlet]

50 was kind of a conservative estimate

[candid creek]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[dense fable]

[true hamlet]

I think 70-75 is a good stopping point

[candid creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314689954546188401/1339337183232004117/3x-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[true hamlet]

then 210-220 crops

and a load of gfood effect and hams

[mossy anvil]

Noice

[candid creek]

Nejooooo I got massive godbreakerrrr

I'm so happy :3

[mossy anvil]

Noice

[candid creek]

Teehee

[true hamlet]

nice ring

[candid creek]

Thank you

[reef moon]

3 more done

[polar geyser]

bigggg

[polar geyser]

you have more trophies than i do :o

[polar geyser]

jioooo i got 2 masterclasses to 650 now

3rd ones on the way

[jaunty rose]

When chips come in rotation are you only allowed to get one of them? choco chip is 10 days away so im wondering how much i gotta prep 😅

[polar geyser]

yeah you can only get one of each

[reef moon]

yup

[jaunty rose]

[polar geyser]

i wish we could get more, id be basically done with chips if we could get more

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1236455214668583067/1416879786814476399/giggle-foxy.gif

id only be missing like 3 chips

[jaunty rose]

well at least i managed to get cheese so i can get it when it comes, was a bit afraid i wouldnt unlock cheese by that time

[polar geyser]

biggg 1 is very huge early on

the rest of the 9 are just QoL after that

[jaunty rose]

yeaah im not really ready for crystal farming yet tho 😅 but good to have for when i am

[candid creek]

Lmao

I don't have enough lucky lads for luckier lad tho

[reef moon]

well aperantly im still missing next jewel that will come in rotation and after that gotta wait for 04/12

[reef moon]

want some

[candid creek]

I have those trophies, gladiator equipped on that DK, and lucky lad on pretty much everyone else

[candid creek]

Hi Tangji!!!

[candid creek]

Yes please I need 75

Look what I got Tangji :3

[reef moon]

godbreaker or the scarf?

[mossy anvil]

rex ring

[candid creek]

Godbreaker ofc

Insanity

[candid creek]

Oh yeah sorry I meant the rex ring mb

[polar geyser]

i dont own a single world trophy though

[reef moon]

almost failed

[reef moon]

nice nice

[wraith timber]

not even w1 trophy? jesus

[ashen steppe]

yes pls

[candid creek]

Why?!

Its free skill afk gains, boss damage, or damage (although gladiator is better)

[ashen steppe]

quests are long as hell

[candid creek]

Nah not 1-3

[polar geyser]

i got 1 single gladiator trophy

[ashen steppe]

idk some quests are js boring to do

[polar geyser]

yeahhhh i just never got round to it lmao

[ashen steppe]

how u get galdiator trophy

is it from the w2 guy

[reef moon]

w2 arena questchain

[candid creek]

Same

[ashen steppe]

shii ig i need to do that then

[candid creek]

Yeah you have to basically beat all the way up to the final col

[ashen steppe]

whats the bonuses

[wraith timber]

just 10% dmg multi

[candid creek]

+10% damage multi

[ashen steppe]

hmm might need to cop that

[wraith timber]

just meh, doesnt even contribute to skilling at all

[candid creek]

Pretty good trophy

I honestly will just have to

Put my yum-yum desert trophy into storage

I don't need it

[ashen steppe]

i just need to complete yondergreen for the w3 trophy but it seems longgg

[candid creek]

Gladiator is just better

[candid creek]

It's really not that bad, but that trophy is only like +8% total damage

[ashen steppe]

oh so gladiator is js better

need it for slab anyhow tho

also might need to try and do my minigames for the baller trophy and megladon

[minor scroll]

getting ice prince is easier than those

[reef moon]

what was the 4 sec breakpoint for 250 or 300 talent?

[hollow cave]

400 is 4 seconds

[reef moon]

oh i was way off

[minor scroll]

600 is 5 seconds

[hollow cave]

yea it's 2 seconds +1 second every 200 levels

[ashen steppe]

fuhh 400 🥲

[reef moon]

no point in wasting books on it then

[ashen steppe]

do u need the equinox thing for it

[minor scroll]

imagine 1200

[zealous swan]

Anyone wanna do world 2 dungeon? For equinox

[hollow cave]

it's part of why talents are so notable for AC, 400 is both breakpoints for the 50 level talents but also is a step up for tenteye

[minor scroll]

u can get 400 without it but its harder

[ashen steppe]

my max talent rn is like 257 i believe

like from library

[hollow cave]

without equinox symbols at all it's pretty unreasonable albeit technically posssible

and you would need Rift Slug

[ashen steppe]

my goat tangji gave me slug

[hollow cave]

ah, tough but doable with such

[ashen steppe]

wait i know im missing 25 from sailing but are the last 17 from summoning?

[hollow cave]

but you can get equinox symbols and you should have a pretty easy time then

[true hamlet]

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[true hamlet]

if you aren't missing anything, 450 should be relatively easy, I'd say it takes less effort to go from 100 to 450 than from 450 to 452/453 and higher

[hollow cave]

it'll be nice to get slug from weekly at some point, will get me to the 450 threshold

[minor scroll]

dang

[hollow cave]

some day I will get them, the rng can't escape me forever (except it definitely could)

[minor scroll]

next week u gonna get slug

[hollow cave]

I hope, the last 4 weeks in a row I've gotten a sheepie

[minor scroll]

shepherd

[reef moon]

sheep are good

[hollow cave]

I'm just keeping them all for now until I get another companion to see how long the chain goes

[hollow cave]

and it is good, but more than one doesn't help

[minor scroll]

sheepie stacks the big bubble

hopefully

[reef moon]

but only if they tradable

[hollow cave]

if I could at least give them to be people I wouldn't mind getting it since it's a very useful companion for others to have but being untradeable it's just kind of there

[reef moon]

i think when these 2 fill il finaly be able to make yumi

[hollow cave]

I was thinking for a second you might need Dharma but I think that's only for Nyanborgir

yea should be able to get it once lullaby finishes

actually I think you can get Yumi before lullaby even

[hollow cave]

do you have a bamboo forest spice already

[hollow cave]

or did you get those two unlocked at the same time

[reef moon]

got up to 21

[hollow cave]

Molten Bay, Wurm Catacomb, Spirit Field and Bamboo Forest can give Yumi I think

so if you have those 4 Ithink you can get it

[hollow cave]

ah I see don't have it then

[reef moon]

iv preatty much goten all recipes that current spices offer

[hollow cave]

worth checking this recipe alongside the listed one in that image, I'm not sure which one will require less fire

but whichever does have less fire they are both 1% Ithink

actually I guess I can check

[reef moon]

as long as this gets me enough fire im good

[ashen steppe]

what about the last 2 spices 🥀

[reef moon]

il get em at some point for now its not important

[hollow cave]

oh both recipes are the same it seems at 1.6Q

[ashen steppe]

the lullaby one gives a meal which increases cooking speed by quite a decent amount which can be good

[reef moon]

wont be an issue then

last meal that gives speed is

[hollow cave]

yea a single ladle with your DB should be enough to pop it

[reef moon]

and il have the 23rd spice

[hollow cave]

I didn't realize how hard it would be to get a screenshot of the meal at 0 fire with my speed though

I didn't think that through before checking

I should've just removed blood marrow to have it much lower

or actually I can't remember if blood marrow affects fire speed

[ashen steppe]

even with blood marrow i doubt ur fire would be 0

[hollow cave]

ok no it doesn't that wouldn'tve mattered

and yea was more just I wanted more than 1 frame where the fire was at first level

[ashen steppe]

i just managed to get level 80 meals earlier today actually

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