#midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ
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okay i buy
now gstack
waste of energy
im still mad cuz i got 2 jackpots but no backpack 
i got 1 jack of pot
its expensive I doubt hes got that high enough to get a meaningful amount
just gstack
do you get 4 silver bags? 
prisma
u mean exalt?
uhh
p sure its 3
Nah that stamp garbo
if u exalt it u get a extra biggie hour per day
then its gotta be lvl 170 to reach 66,7% 
Wow I cannot afford the upgrade I didnt realize it got so expensive compared to daily tape I can get lmao
wait for daily
which ones have you done?
how abt refinery mastp
That squiggle still looks innapropriate
Is there a card spreadsheet around anywhere, that has all of the cards/values/etc? I think most of the info is in the Wiki, but it's not in a form that it can be sorted, or you can mark what you have, etc.
I'm trying to find a use for the card preset slots that I have since a bunch of stuff is cleared by skill mastery, and I've been adding new cards like crazy because I jumped to both W5 and W6, and am clearing stuff there.
it --> tools --> cards?
!insight
https://idleoninsight.com/ - 3rd party site made by Corbeno
Search every bonus in Idleon!

dice, multitool, mason jar, crystal, gfood and refinery
time for liquid regen
quest stamp b4 regen
how abt carry cap for mining and chopping
Close, but not really what I'm looking for. I want to be able to show the cards that I have, choose a few types and then sort them by value, rather than having them all grouped by World. Maybe I'll just throw one together.
y would I need those exalted? sell it to me
lol, I use the heck out of that, but also not quite what I'm looking for. :)
by value? you mean type?
these are the only cards that matter besides drop rate
Type is important, but so is the percentage of bonus (or whatever kind of bonus it is), so you can choose the BEST ones in your particular set, without having to constantly roll over the IT ones and make notes or something. lol.
The rest are passive so you just farm and forget
Eh, I paid for the slots, I'll find something to use them for. Plus I don't have some of those yet. I need to work with the ones that I have. :)
ye, I use a dr set, a xp set, a dungeon set, a mana/hp snapshot set and an afk gains/efficiency set
Those are the ones that matter that arent passive by the rift
a multikill set with fight afk cards
that can help for people that still need to get main drops from mobs yes
Exactly. But, for example, I only have 4 W6 cards at this point, and one of them has an star. Missing 4 for W5, and a few of them have one star. So sometimes for like bonuses, an earlier card might be better. I love suggestion lists like the one that you showed, but I gotta work with what I have.
Eh, I may toss something together in Google Sheets. It wouldn't take very long.
Though I'd need to find a list of what the stars add per level per card. (The other stuff I can copy/clean up out of the Wiki.)
Sounds like a good way to practice excel
Only reason ive used excel in the last 10 years is to make my own stuff for video games
I had a dream about w7 last night what is happening ๐ญ
YAYY IDLEON ADDICTION BACK
lol, I LOVE Excel. I play with it for fun. I almost always have it open. I write VBA, so I can do some kinda fun stuff, if I want to spend the time. (I was a Web Dev/IT Manager for a long time.)
no im not back lava just infected my dreams...
I havent touched code since I was in high school
Thats where I learned theres no way I was going to do that for work
I guess high school wasnt that long ago for most of the chat regulars but that was a while ago for me lmao
7 years ago? 
7 years ago was 2000 right?
Wellllll...I'm retired. So high school was quite some time ago. The only computer in the high school that I went to was a terminal tied to a college or something, that had a career interest questionnaire on it - that's all it did - on a monochrome monitor. :P
Is there a guide for pet territory battles. I'm stuck on smokey lake
how many pet slots you have open?
6
Thanks
I'm a kebab
But thats just a theory 
dragokebab
Bakakanobubu 
I am old enough to know it but not old enough for that to be the norm for me
ive always read it as mr crabs
I see my mistake now
I don't suppose there's any way to farm doot other than the obvious?
as in the pet?
Hey, I'll get copyrighted by @mrcrabs
-# the guy left prolly
long time ago
as in farming the boss because I still haven't had pants drop and I'm at like 20th try or something now, doing 1 per day
was there a mr crabs?
o just gotta get the dootaphone and buy daily eyes
Yeah that's what I've been doing. Was hoping there was a faster way I didn't realize.
Did you get the achievement that gets you 2 eyes per day?
i think like a year ago he left
-# before my arrival, so idk much
?????????
are you bs'ing me
Nah, walk behind the mole shop in w5
pants just dropped I am now OK
and level you shop quantity stamp
Behind mole? Ill go check it out. What's the cut-off for making it 2 per day? 51%?
theres also bribe but probably already have it
You should still buy daily eyes and bags
Bags?
oh right FUCK I FORGOT
the bribes were done in the first month I was playing I totally forgot what they are and do
just some minor bonuses ๐คท
I sitll need the armor upgrade thing from doot though. 1 more ๐ I thought I finished
behind mole..... behind mole where
Are those used for something?
you can get from other minibosses
faunt helmet
w5 shop
OH yeah but I meant behind how
Oh it just took a while for it to pop lol
yeah it takes a bit to register
For divinity xp clearly ๐
whats the best team i can use for this
probably carrot, crab, slime, chest. was so long ago i don't remember
ok
That's a good chart you can follow
does placement not matter
in order i typed
wait
o is that new? havent seen that infographic
Placement matters, yes (I think, sometimes at leaast)
Unlock 5/6 slots?
I used 5slot comp to kill with lower power pets, bit slow with mono but gets the job done
it's from #1084911530417606656, "Pet Arena Setup"
i cant unlock
O
im trash
its not twilight desert
Would try with 4slot comp and just time mono/refiller accordingly
it 4slot
The 5slot in that guide for arena got me to 6 slots in like 6 attempts so bit of rng but u get loads of daily attempts with two of the hunter trapping class
start withou auto, manually click 6 (shield) time blocks (few), then auto
That ^^ looks good
it is
coran team probably correct one
O hit a new crop
Should I spam the 0% chance for that 196 chat?
yea this chest not doing shit
without auto they do only normal attacks. 3456 keys are pets
also start pre-charged. stars few times and exit till you enter 100% charged
no chance bro
then higher level pets
DUDE WHAT THE FUCK DOES THE SHEEP DO
wow so good
"replace sheep with chest if you have it unlocked"
ok im tired of clicking crops
thats Ram 
One more is still nice
I got 250k golden grilled cheese, what size stacks shall I give to people?
whats 250k / 6
I havent found a new on in ages
Been slacking been at 207b for like 2months
get more and give everyone 100k
grilled cheese is p easy to get with candies too
Me whenever the idle game requires me to idle
This is an idle afk game?
No
45m till HH 
if someone needs a body you can @ me
I asked a week or so ago but I forgot what people said. Just unlocked another character slot, which class should I go?
You doint want my kidney
ah, i dont mind a few stones
hey so i just started w4 any tips?
I suggest one more BB
Lab jail and 1 char push
what?
reason for lab jail
And second one maybe shrines in town count for all maps that world
oh
Can the doubler chip double heroic spirit trophy?
I think this counts as serious neglect ๐
looks normal to me
i know a guy who hasnt reprinted since may 2024
holy
With those amounts no
I went from 100 M/hr to 100B/br
Yea according to idle main dude I gotta get my copper ore print to 10 billion idk how tf imma push it that big
when 10T 
Iโm still in leek lock and I wanna get to w7 before it comes out
Bravery
I might be cooked for that
Yea thatโs gonna take forever
Anyone
if its a trophy and a trophy chip, its a double trophy 
it wont double prisma % though
is there a nametag/wing chip doubler 
@keen parcel btw, it seems i wont be able to do dungeon, maybe another day 
Its in 20min
Lava is absolutely gonna add it then
He really want to give me that 500x dr
1000x when
When he finish w7 tbh
Nah I'm already hitting 450x at clammies
Maybe when all the MC comes out
Sb absolutely will have Dr multi in it's master talents
Ill be on dice server 13 in about 10min
did anyone want to run a w1 thingy? Or am I running solo
create party button doesnt work?
wheres my multi at 
i ate it
thats alot of mining effi
what are some ways to increase mining efficiency? I'm only in world 3 but my dementia mining chance is 0%
just push worlds and it will increase
forget crafting
why does gratefulbringer HATE ME SO
why does he need to craft in W3
Amarok set is good
for the same reason you'd craft otherwise?
ye its very good for 1000 kph
k
I pushed with amarok to W6 in 3 weeks ( it was slow cause I had to learn the game, and never ACTIVE , only AFK pushing )
the point is, struggling to get gear early slows you down from pushing
better just forget it
the game has enough overloading information for a beginner
the guy asked for mining eff
xddd
Amarok doesnt make any sense this convo is silly
yes, and mining eff comes with new worlds
oh ye bro crafting is such info overload
crafting gear comes with new worlds too i bet !
so your solution is pushing and ignoring mechanica...so the info overload is even bigger..?
me when i dont want to have w3 weapons by the time i reach w6 is crazy
ye they need to learn everything in w6
he said he needs Dementia while in W3
that is hard to get when you are just in W3
how is dementia hard exactly?
Look at the clickers and tool upgrades
easier to catch up, then trying to craft gear when you unlock it
by having 0% chance to mine it? as he said
thats why he asked for efficiency :o
im taking about info overload not how hard something is to craft
"guys how do i mine dementia" no dont mine dementia, u can mine dementia in w6 !
me and 2 other players who I helped to progress did not need Dementia until W6
great !
so why not tell him to not focus Dementia
anyway to actually answer that guys question
he asked how to mine dementia ! :D its not your job to determine if he needs it or not
his game not urs
yes
unlocking new world = getting eff
leveling up gives u eff but whatever u say
check out your orange bubbles in alchemy and your warrior (barb/squire) tallents and use your librarby to up the max lvl for them that could help mining
I jsut saw a post on the internet trying to tell me someone I've never seen before was more influential than mj in music
mining stamps may help as well
just unlock hole and bravery in w5 and get infinite efficincy
ye i dont think hes quite right there tbh :v
na bruh justice is a scam HOW MUCH FKN POP DO YOU NEED
my point was same as blue said its more benefical for him to continue pushing worlds then waste hours on geting mining eff up and geting dementia armor stat upgr beetween those early sets its almost neglectable
more than 352 obviously 
i swear lava needs to add spirit locks to every world
meh
fuck no skysoggies were bed enough
meh
ty, somebody got it how is my info productive
broke 50 ig
game would only benefit from it imo
Dont put this thought out in the universe thanks
pointless time waste is the worst mechanic
meta being "rush to w6 and ignore every single mechanic" is quite a nice way to cause burnout
more spirit locks? I think the discord would benefit from it best
ur info didnt answer his question though
people late w6 asking how w3 skills work, no bueno 
starting breeding by the time u get to w6 is lovely i bet
having people engage with the mechanics of the game isnt pointless
You make mechanics better that you want them to look at and learn, you dont make the whole game worse
how though
if he pushes world ( progressing the game ), eff will randomly spawn in
That is basic game and writing rules
thats straight up not possible with how the game currently works 
"im w3 right now, how do i get accuracy?" oh just go to w6 and u'll have accuracy
spirit locks wouldnt make the game worse
like bro that shit is not helpful
simply getin to w4 or even w5 and unlocking lab/divinity is gonna give him alot more benefits then dementia armor
are we literally deadass right now
How is that impossible
Dementia does not help pushing, it's irrelevant info
Accuracy is an important part
Dementia is useless at that point
he wants dementia to make pushing easier i assume, which is a crazy assumption i know
Other than the fact that he seems to be just slow he could always update anything he wants
w6 and 5 are purely timegated skilld that provide massive account wide buffs, you are heavily incentivized to rush to these worlds
crafting dementia tools dont help pushing at all i bet
and u defo wont need them later either
If anything the vault just needs to be removed from the game
dementia tools at best give you a 2% increase
It makes all the other mechanics in game useless ear;y
anyone know where i can find full chip rotations?
that would be a start
but if you just literally KILL THOSE MOBS
you will push
if you stop to level up skills/check guides/check stuff and stuff You are literally not pushing in those moments
hard to believe I know
nerf vault and clickers, add spirit locks, finally youre thinking some
Spirit locks are not needed
sounds insane, it almost sounds like playing the game ?
Why would you slow the game for no reason. THis is the same terrible idea that kills games all the time
Its just a nerf because you cant figure out how to make the mechanics better/more enticing
ye, it's inane how me and 2 more players didn't need gear to push in 1-2-3 weeks to W6
and giving this info to help a beginner is a good stuff, instead of telling him to focus on skills right now in W3
they most certainly are, the multi characters gimick is the whole point of the game, the game making you actually play arround it and all the other mechanics would make the game actually feel playable instead of rush to w6 and spend months and months just to actually have half decent stats
i dont see how that is relevant to a guy asking for easy ways to get mining eff :D
maybe he thinks he needs mining eff
but telling him a better way to make his life easier is cool from an experienced player 
i assume you heavily rushed to w6?
it's like telling a young kid to do this work and get rich ,instead of going to 5-10 years college wasting time
yes, and doing well
u definitely sound like uve got to w6 in 6 months at most
i dont recall talking to you
How do you describe rushing it
a time line, the day I joined discord was day one more or less and then I beat the last spirit lock in may
I got to W6 in 3-4 weeks because I had not enough info and was pushing AFK
then I guided my brother with lots of cool info and he pushed in 1 week
i mean its not very hard if u can candy every step of the way
Do I send it chat?
no ๐
go for it
I was thinking this way myself
its a bit risky
god forbid helping beginners, shit ahh chat, whatever
well got some stuff
u defo arent sub 15 - (joking)
Need more hours on this stupid thing
how manyx
? how many what?
just neglecting most mechanics to get to w6 faster cause or the inflated stats provided from it, sorry just got off my shift
multi
o at the start? like 2.5
Nah I didnt even push w6 until I was told to do it
it took me like a month and a half?
hmhm ic
still fairly fast but fair enuf
i just generally dont see the frustration on spirit locks
i dont think theyre perfect but id say theyre better than nothing
It stems from the bad dev idea of 'just nerf it'
I have seen a lot of games go down hill with such thinking
But if I am being completely honest with you I dont think I care
It was a fun convo though
quite frankly the way the game currently is if you want to even be optinal in slightest aint any better
as it is the giant w6 wall just leads to massive burnout imo
I think the game was enjoyable as a place in between the 'rush rush rush' and the zui method
I think he takes it too far but its good to do at least some things as you go
whatever, will not help again beginners with working methods, cause I get attacked
poor u
allo sire
The thing to make it better imo would be a bigger defense/accuracy/damage buff needed or remove vault
maybe new goals for the world portals theres a thought
boss gem+certain goals with the skill of the world
Vault is ridic how much faster game gets
either it be a level threshold or anything else such as x ammount of bubble levels
see, the whole incentivizing the players not nerf something mentality
also true
lmao yea
what happens if it says you won the minigame but the boss isn't attackable?
=/
unlucky
I mean, I suggest rushing W6 for the fact there are 100 things you need to do from W4 to W6.
Beginning sailing, gaming, farming, summoning, sneaking, caverns early gives pretty good boosts
or just stay W3 and farm dementia - as domebence was fighting me harder than on court
god its over like a 10% unattackble bug rate -.-
6 in trying to get 20 minigames done for the task
When the flip will w7 come
in a month
soon
It was scheduled for Sept, which is why many said Oct or Nov earliest.
Someone lied to me and said the 8/10 and I was so excited
yall have all the w7 bubbles? 
I think I have some w8 bubbles too
Except for luck, still not yet bothered with it's w7 bubbles

I'm not a bubo sweat
Never know, maybe the first 50% will have full bubble page, and the second page isnt w8 it is w7 at 100% release
i mean making bubbles is prolly like the easiest of it all tbh
he just gotta give stats to u
drawing them might be harder than coding that tbh
I could see W7 being last world. Mainly bc the MC is the last of planned classes, and does full "reset."
rebirth to empty account and 100x damage and xp ๐
How much dmg or I guess multikill% should I have before I should start cranium cooking
mk? dmg is until you can one shot with poison
CC doesnโt use MK
Oh really?
So then the only thing to do it level the talents and alchemy bubble?
Pure kills is what fuels it
So you want crystal build
And yea talents help and bubble too
The PO boxes for reduced CD and CC duration
Arcane mobs are also cool
my dumbass havent even thought of that yet
Smh forgetting ab giants
And a grand total of +5 dr 
yuhuuz
Soo for the 1 million sample for equinox, im guessing i have to spam chopping and raise sample rates + bubbles and food buff? Or is there a better way to do it
Logs or copper ore is the best bet for an early 1m sample. Having 90% sample rate helps a lot. I think DK can do it the earliest with copper ore
I am halfway through world four but do not understand wtf i should have my people do
Oh well, still a long way to go for me then
Everyone should be in lab except your pusher
DK/Es if active, BB if afk pushing
are royal traps the best ones?
can i use other towers for the soda poisoning achievement or ONLY 3 poison towers?
can use others
ah, so how is it a challange then?
idk, i think its bugged
why do you think that?
i used 5 and it gave me the achievement
i mean it didn't put a limit in the text, maybe its at least 3?
idk man, you can test it out yourself 
I'm trying to beat wave 50 on the W3 tower defense, and the big guys seem like they're healing?
Get to one quadrillion like a real chad
So when you open codex and go to tips n tricks or tutorials you'll see a segment for td and you'll know more about what each colour means. Also just place nully to remove all special effects from enemies
yknow, i don't think i've ever hit that tab
says they're gonna heal as long as they're under 50% hp... and they arent gonna get past my 2 kraken towers... so we're at an impasse
Yup you just gotta take the L and get void tower and then go do it another time
Unless you placed some lightning towers a while back
I think the mutation was BBA for 2-3
You can hit level 15 on lighting towers right?
Most people haven't
just saw this, its not really difficult at all so i didn't test anything un fortunately
Depends on what you ask
Hey Zoo Manmal 
ZOO MAN
wuyt
Is best for critter I reckon, not for shiny, not for exp, and not bets in the sense of the last one as godshard exists
yeah what is godshard is that a different trap
Last tier of tools you can craft
I do well this 2 am morning
Talking to a pretty girl ๐
I didn't mean you but you're vvery pretty too
You doing you, am in hell uni 
Uni is fun in your imagination until you get into it from what I hear
Especially with my siblings giving me horror stories



Honestly nah it's alright
The hardest part is the new way you study
Other then that it feels extremely similar
Sir Bean you broke the chain 
Canโt study shit because Iโm an idiot
Like...ever
That means you're doing it in an incompatible way for you
Personally I prefer to listen and put stuff into practice. Rewriting stuff or cards don't work at all for me
I suppose the /shrug doesnโt count
Took me ages to learn that cause a lot of early school is just common sense, and later school is just memorising
It's text not an emote :3
Wanted confirmation
What stats/skills should I take on page one for Skilling? I've got all the skill related stuff, maxed main stat, and extra talent points. What do I get after that?
I'm playing with a card spreadsheet.
There are 230 cards.
- 37 of them are automatically passive.
- 4 of them (card drop rate) can be passive with an upgrade vault item.
- With Skill Mastery, if you reach 300 cumulative levels in some skills, cards are made passive. This includes Mining (9), Chopping (12), Fishing (11), Catching (11), Trapping (8) and Worship (6) cards, depending on each skill.
Is there any other game mechanic that turns cards passive?
what do we vote
question
is there an optimal time candy exp card set out there?
I know of active ones and kill based ones but I don't know if there is a widely used good one
preferably bottom two
I would like to keep my extra dmg
Poop card and demon genie card increase crystal spawn chance...then maybe the drop rate cards?
you mean like this?
that says monster mats tho
wouldn't that be kill oriented instead of exp oriented (but afk)
ah ye, you are right
Another week another shitty ballot
(Iโll go captain because uhhhh)
my plan for XP was to put every good stuff on the char and go to Samurai to active farm for a while
Donโt think Iโve ever seen one
Tho there do be the class exp setup for like active farming
But candy? Not sure
I think it was half a day for me ( left him there killing ) to get lvl 650 +
gonna do that with every char
do you have any suggestions?
thinking about doing just dmg and afk gains ig or somethin like that
yea I have that but I realized it does nothing for afk bc it's active wxp and crystal chance lmao
Yeah might try to change those for like afk gains or kill or whatever 
I suggest you to do some active XP farming
and keep the candy for later grind
as you see, I am that desperate on Clammies to put my chars there fight 
cause need 1 million Golden cakes
lmao
yeah that's fair enough
Looks like there are a couple of star signs that might give AFK candy, but it'd only be like a piece, and I'm not sure how far you'd have to me in the star mep. lol.
thankfully I won't have to worry about that stuff for a longgg while
I got some candies, but waiting for W7 release to farm Dark Lanterns
because need 100k Dark lantern for Vman hands
I said candying afk exp gains lol
there are some very grindy late game stuff, which needs 5000+ hr candies
yea ik
Ohhh, you wanna USE 'em, not get 'em.
yeah I have thousands of candies
what is your character levels now?
it's moreso me trying to figure out what is the most optimal cards cardset to use
Ahh - I jumped from W4, to W6 in a couple of days, and in two days my DK went from 215 to 380, no effort at all. :P
500ish except my bb at 453
but my question itself is only based upon this
and not many other factors
ye, I suggest to push around 500-520 with Candy at Wurms for XP
that was my plan too
lv 1 wizard?
yes and that too
but after that, xp is so low, that better to active Samurai
OK but my dude
I am trying to ask about what card set is most optimal for this task not what map lol
I have everything locked down except for card set of which I'm trying to figure out what would be best
active or candy
also wait
mk doesn't effect exp right?
I should drop the cards
candy
I want to burn 100 or so 2h time candies
I have like 1100
At wurms? Zui?
they don't know who I am lol
is that not good xp spot? which one is better?
I don't have w5 yet lol
About that uhhh
fight afk, exp from monsters, biggie hour
aaaaaaaaaah okay XD
biggie would be a waste because of afk claims cap (I'm at 70%/75%)
then again I am unsure what else could be better seeing that Mk and dmg cards mean nothing in the face of exp
dr then
is Dr better then monster exp cards?
no clue
I know Dr effects exp but I thought straight exp% was better
15% Dr vs 16% exp
so exp is a lot better but dr can fill any gaps ig
Could you boost the stuff that doubles the chance of AFK gains, and use one hour candies? (A lot of clicking, but...lol.)
i can only douyble the bottom right one but this seems to be the best option i think atm
yeah i could do 1h candies
its a very small bump up (750,000ish to 850,000ish) but its still something at least
What is this one?
exp from monster
+16% monster exp
Lampar 
Oh, I found it. I thought you were still in W4. lol.
862b/1h candy isn't too bad ig
I am lol
He is but card pack
events n idle skilling go brr
Ohhhhh
first prisma
ugeeeee
now 9 more D:
Which bubble will be first for you
lmao fair
What level are your meals?
11 or lower

do yall think +12% exp or +5% double afk exp claim chance is better?
Donโt do dchef prismas are too valuable to be spent on something with such limited gains
my cooking speed is horrible without prisma dchef
however it's listed as a source for double exp claims
I guess exp in included in the afk claim 
I guess you could test in short increments?
I think it's just lava wording and it means exp
Just came back to the game after a year and the refinery has changed? Do I leave auto-refine off or on now?
wowie
leave it on unless your trying to rank up stuff
like ref and green
just 6 more, wont take that long hopefully
huge
how many prismas do most people tend to get from ACalone?
Ive found 40 and mid w5
Thats w/ 1 talent point in the prisma find talent
Eventually, there is an upgrade that % of your DR helps w/ prisma find.
ah so it's sorta like ww in terms of dr n stuff
so I'd assume 80 wouldn't be too bad later down the line of AC
That upgrade is pretty far in, 5700 upgrades
My prisma odds are 1 in 22m at 42 found. With more talent points, maxing the prisma talent and that upgrade, 80 might be possible.
the most Ive seen is 49
I've seen 50+ but I think 4 prisma's is currently the most reasonable you could do w5
is there a sharp difference between w4 and w5 card drop rate compared to w1 w2, w2 w3, and w3 w4?
I assume lava might do a hot fix after or when w7 drops
hopfully that will make it better
ah
got it
is this abt my msg
no
no it is not
its about the hot mess that AC is lol
well hot mess might be a bit far
but its pretty rough at theleast
as to your question
i do not know
however W4 cards felt a lot more difficult then W3 cards imo
maybe its bc elite classes and ruby cards
or something else idk
but i assume yeah there wouldbe a difference
oh lmao
yea its a mess
prob the least intuitive MC and yet the most grindy
W5 has been pretty good for me so far for cards. I've only been there a couple of days, haven't run everyone on it, haven't quite done all the maps, only missing spots for 4 cards. Of the 12 I have, 6 are one star and one is 2 star, and I was working on W6 and W4 at the same time.
W5 takes quite a few more cards for stars than W4 does.
youve been on W5 cards for a couple days? dam
15/45/75/240/6885 - First map of W4
25/75/125/400/11475 - First map of W5
(Those are the card breakpoints.)
what are the uses with fleeter in this guide? i cant understand it, borger seems a lot better?
mm
how does w3 and w4 compare?
have you... looked at the end goal setup?
i have not goten a converter yet so idk
use alchemic instead
Sec
5/15/25/80/2295
10/30/50/160/4590
First one is mushrooms, second is sandy pots.
so theyre always around twicce the last world
This makes it easier to see - here are the first 5 altogether:
5/15/25/80/2295
10/30/50/160/4590
11/33/55/176/5049
15/45/75/240/6885
25/75/125/400/11475
nvm, ig its just w1 -> w2 and w4 -> w5
yea this makes sense why i should just do w1-w4 rubies then skill mats
(LMAO - I'm working on a card spreadsheet so it's a timely question, have all the data right here.)
2 and 3 are very close.
thats cool
dyk the relative difficulty for skill mats?
I don't. I could probably figure it out, but this is basically me trying to put together card sets when the best sets are changing daily, lol. So I figured what the heck, throw it into a spreadsheet, maybe someone else will find it useful.
Ugh, yeah. lol. I haven't worked much on skills, kinda only when required. Mine will be a nightmare.
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I haven't really checked out the break points on skill materials. Maybe they won't be as bad? (Though I feel like I see fewer cards with those.)
lmao
i think theres another w5 w6 breakpoint where it goes insane
First map in W6: 50/150/250/800/22950
this was from getting all my chars to mining 100+ and same with these other node based skills
basically the gshard tool lvl
2500/7500/12500/40000/1147500
5000/15000/25000/80000/2295000
Samurai and Crystal Candlewhatever
lmao
And this is the worst: The Golem, in the Hole: 10000/30000/50000/160000/4590000
How would anyone even get ONE star on that? lol.
by packings
...I got to 4* without card packs
I'm in awe, lol.
yummy dragon statues
and now just keeping a stock for when statues get buffed and so my depos worth more in future
Im only 153 
Does having 1m in my storage compensate for a bit? 
yes 
My dragon statue is only at 200

Well weโre practically half retired atp
My second AC at golems, 90-100 days afk. Might get few dragon statues
Yeah second ACโฆ second AC made for afk.. the second AC made to stack afk hours for when it drops. That second AC.
Hey, what does second ES bring to the table?! 
Me either. 2 DB, 2 AC, 2 SB.
2 DB seemed like the play for double fish prints back when w4 was last world. Boy was I wrong.
I managed to up my dmg some from the other day but still really lacking to push the rest of W4 into W5 and not sure how to keep boosting it.
Swap that helm for chizo, the w3 boss helm
Has better base stats, 3 additional upgrade slots, weapon power, and % dmg
Need to do more W3 tasks for that and a fair amount of them at that
Still might be worth doing at that DR. Its prob best helm til w4 boss, and that requires 3 rare drops
Tbh, though, if youre active on your ES shouldn't matter
The afk info is for afk kills, not active
I alternate between it and my DK farming Gene slices to get my pets up for now
how to farm gene slices?
Put on splicer, afk
how to get ribbons? (cooking)
i think its master class r8
Was an event, and think pack that gave em, otherwise, blood berserker master class
i need to open all portals in all worlds?
or only all portals -to the npc who gives me the master class quest
for what? db's quest? no you need to kill 92 unique mob
does this mean i dont collect the eggs when incubator is full, and wait till they change colour/rarity?
Yes
so i have 1 lv13 medal (i accidentally merged hte 2 12s i got -.-)
should i just throw it on cabbage?
Prob not, it was great, isn't as much now
as a complete noob with no resources and nearly f2p can I realistically get from 1k fire to 70k for cheese in 2 weeks? I'm mid world 5 now
Yes
do I just need to park everyone in cooking for 2 weeks?

Higher talent levels, maybe max levels
Thru leveling
Plus, if youre going for choco chip, got one week from when it unlocks til its out of rotation
yeah that's the goal all the media I've been viewing says its essential
if you can wait another month there's 2 choco chip, back to back end november and start december
its every few whenever whoever does it feels like it
Nah, but you can get it this next rotation
(makes no sense but whatever)
whole lot of choco chip in a few month
it'll be generous the moment omega chips are in the fucking rotation and not in 20 bazillion millennial
yeah but having it asap is nice to you can start crystal farming too
Yeah, and for CC
yeah I'm doing pop obols overnight tonight on my es. running into damage issues pushing through w5 efficiently so taking minor detour to progress other things/catchup/get nobi
With choco each crystal worth bout 3-4 spawn. Even with trash rate its huge
guide says ~30m for kruk on es I'm at 14m with pretyt much everything except es talents maxed need books etc
so fire is like
bigger pet-> more spices->more fire?
Negative

Its about the combo of pets, too
better pet setup->more spices->more fire
so this?
just trying to make sure I understand the things I can change there doesn't seem to be a lot of active engaging with cooking other than clicking ladles and spices
Early its mainly pet powr, later its power and setup. But majority of cooking isnt from spice upgrades
where do i see this? i dont see any difference in W3 home town, nor at the TD statues ๐ค
top of the refinery ain't it
go build the arm
Both love and hate your name
that's not me
thats a ss from a video
its a video from griffybit
you just got through telling this poor noob how to cook I'm not at the automation arm point yet 
I prob missed bunch, very tired
gm
evening
night
What armor should i use on world 3?
heyo, does anyone know how to get burned marshmallow and nyanborgir unlocked for cooking ?
Wiki has the best rates for unlocking em
amarok
Is it worth it to level primordial shrine? Level 11 at 2% gains
all shrines are worth levelling, i mean...
they dont even give you any downsides
When you throw a pet with a breedability gene in the fenceyard, it increases the chance that that pet type, when bred, will produce the next pet in the line
So increases the chance for the next pet to unlock
Yes
Gm
gm
u get buffs for each x rifts u reach
pretty game breaking buffs
30 days of logins
Hello everyone, I have a question. I am now in world 3 (few maps to unlock the boss to world 4). Itยดs a few month account but I have managed to upgrade all my basic stats A LOT due to inactivity of 2 months and a lot of money gain (all my character starts with 100k attack without gear). I have now 6 character following the suggestions and common sense. But I have a question, when you are farming materials, do you keep them in their "farming" talant points, stationary or do you let them do things? For istance with the shaman boosting the bubbles production
should I be putting wisdom stones on my skull for vman?
"when you are farming materials, do you keep them in their "farming" talant points, stationary or do you let them do things? For istance with the shaman boosting the bubbles production"
can you be more specific? From what Ive read yes, you keep them in the skilling talents when youre skilling. You can have the bonus from shaman when chopping and them being in a cauldron
Yes this is the answer, so you do not let them progress through the maps (I am pushing to world 4 with the barbarian)
When I will need them to unlock the second sub class then I will have to push through world with them too
you can let your classes progress through the maps if youd like, or you can have characters farm materials while you have a designated pushing character. There is no wrong way to play

How can I improve my coarse mountain spice production? I want to try to get the current jewel
yo gang how do I ramp up damage on my bubo?
idk just keep spamming claim button
which critter box is the best for shinies? (using 24h drone)
what boxes can you use
up to this one
ye, that is the best, Royale 40 hours
OR 10 hours if you check every 10 hours
or ofc 20 mins if you go wild XD
alright thx :p
I put my Vman yesterday to do XP traps ( green ones ) 20 hours
put 8 turtle
he makes 1 B xp/trap
so 8B xp/20 hours
I guess he will push lvl 120
the trap must be placed down by Vman ( at Drone )
and I used every min-max I could

You need to be friends with shadow again 
mistakes 
is this u
be exact
Hi kebab
what flavour
Maybe

hmmmmmm
no signal
Why
travelling
Greenstack them ๐๐
Any cauldron levels I should aim for before unlocking bubbles?
logged on today only to realise i'd been on the wrong talent preset so none of my lab nodes were active 
classic
coffee and rice
close to 10m now
I don't even have 1m 
hiii
y'all playing a bit too much...
Was there any bonus to connection range added since W5 release that would allow me to have less than 5 characters in the lab?
At least one
9
just get doot
Looks like i was right
ur always right
Unless when im spreading missinformation
quick spread it miore
jawbreaker prayer is useless
its only 236% money compared to the +1180% mob hp 
yeah
it's not like it give multiplicative money
it doesn't?

wow mean
I think it does
It just runs in the background. Idk wut u mean. I look at at not much tbh.
pc abuser
as punishment you gotta live with 3fps gameplay for an hour
I wasnt even on top of dailies during my last thing I was going for
i cant
has the pong lag always been this bad? like holy shit I would be so embarassed if my game ran like this
look
use
ofc
why larry so high lvl
neglecting alchemy is correct move
got my print going
im making the wrong move then 
slow down ashley or printer gonna overheat
dang how you got your prints so high?
no skill issue
Doing void walker quest currently doing skulls, Iโve done all of w1 and 3 of w2, but on the species slayer quest it only shows 5 done , bug or something Iโm missing?
you have to click on the deathnote to update iirc
^
soon time to move to the spirit map then to finaly meet with the emperor
how u progressed so quick wtf ๐
swipe
woudnt say this is quick
a lot quicker than me ๐
i got like 200k -> 300k kills on the ceramics
next map for you will give you plenty of time to go back and catch up with all the stuff you missed that will boost ya progress
as skydoggies need 70M kills on 9 chars
bro thats so longgggg
summoning has a decent dmg buff on it if you did all the normal collor wins that was a good chunk of what spend it up for me
doot doesnt really speed up progress as you can have 2 divinites from hole and 1 normaly so you can have most usefull stuff active
u can connect to snake tho as well when pushing
doot is just qol at this point
unless lava actually remembered the last 2 gods and added crazy buffs for them
snake and nobisect from what i can see no other god helps progress directly
i got arctis and omni from hole and nobi as the main link
bro ditched omniphau IKANT
i said progress directly (kills/h)
also goharut can better than snehebatu if ur div is strong enough
well ok thats for killing progress...
omniphau saves your refinery, i see it as a bigger progress however
whats goharts passive
afk gains for all chars
o
well its the minor link bonus
yh thats what i meant
arent passives active all time even if not connect
thats blessings
ah mistook those 2
yh that was mb
ye cant check minor links on the IT
trust imma get slug or doot next ๐
my divinity probably isnt high enough
my chars in average have lv140 on div i think
and lv900+ on big P bubble also adds up
come to pizza server 5 and equip a non tradable pet i have a slug
wait are u sure??
yuge
aight im there bro ๐
i already own slug so Yeah
you the guy with crystal?
yh
check dogo
back to grinding
just say you dont have rift jocund
true
equinox gatekept me :(
i dont have rift jocund ๐ฅ
Just, max equinox
flurbos ikant
i so wana trade doot for the 2 premiums im missing but idk if lava will add any nice pets with w7
He's adding a new set
would be nice tho
interesting
i dont even have 10 droprate ๐
i wanna hit 40x on db
what rn
I'm not sure what that means. Could you elaborate?
40x balljoes
lies
no im correct
sarcasm
Ah.
u wanna just main link 9 people with arctis anyways for all lab active
we still don't have an estimate for w7 release apart from that ingame announcement that it's coming in a month right?
dr isn't spelled as baljoes 
no it is
or rather, it's Dball Rjoes
Isn't that really wasteful for the other divinity bonuses you can get if you don't link arctis?
solves all those issues
show proof
thats why there is pocket div
source: i made it up
okay swiper
swipe for us 
just get doot smh
I don't know what pocket divinity is.
dont swipe over me dont swipe over me
world 5 hole alows you to link 2 more gods to be active on all your chars
swipes u instead 
Aha, okay. Good to know. Wait, I thought that was world 4.
Ah no, I just got confused with the purple hue.
world 4 has lab cooking breeding and rift
tf is this monstrosity
look at the mirror my guy
Yeah, pardon me, I returned yesterday from a 3 year hiatus and I'm extremely overwhelmed.
vault is op just remember tat
I've got most of that upgrade vault maxed already since yesterday.
buy me im homeless
It does seem pretty ridiculously strong.
push to w6 if u havent
same
lies
Just did, yeah. Figured that would be important.






