#midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ
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okay new potential with these 5
get this to 330
thennnn use the other 4 on just getting 40 more forge levels
cause 67 is doable right now
it was 110 before hydrogen
69 is the only doable number
Jake you won't believe this, I finally completed one of the 7 figure followers
LETS GOOOOOO
If only it could be gstacked
10 more levels down
Jake do you support the idea of filtering money to not cause lag to f2p players when farming things like obols or 7 figure
and thats without the mining foods on so thatll cover the rest of the stamps i think
i forgot that its holding the items for stamps which puts a spanner in the works
i guess i need to seperately stack this 5b sadge
there we go
Lava doesn't like the idea of '' f2p ''
Are there any rings that give accuracy?
I know
Frisby ring, Aka best ring in the game
Ok ty
Every ring could give acc tbh
F2p is getting whales to have mercy on you, bc the dev aint got empathy
Don't take that seriously is not the best but the best early on is probably frisby and technically all rings give acc if you upgrade them with acc stat
is that the only way to get forging cap up? And does having multiple of the same shiny in breeding give 2 days instead of 1 at a time
yeah
Forge cap stamp isnt great with caverns
isnt greatttt but we take what we can
Never exalt it, tho
And yes, extra breeding gives time, dunno if its 1:2 tho
Thx, Very useful except for caverns that guy is such a low level
how many ladles per day were yall getting when going for 100,000 ladle equinox?
uhhh, prob like 20k maybe? idek anymore
yea I think 20k is reasonable bc doesnt it only give food lust which is mediocre at best
ok, i gotta do chows then
anyone know how to fix game freeze when enter pet arena in w4?
!guide pet section
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
Tnx
hello
gm domeb
interesting
What is the most optimal map for farming crystals in w3 ?
ram i believe
hi
gm Ash
or neptuneye if you want them black lenses too
Hi Collin
gm tusk
where's my morning
Collin I have more achievements
huge gains
2 opals from one bravery AND my first damage upgrade from bravery
gm
Got all hole bucket things unlocked, AND got mastery 1 unlocked
this looks like a forced gm
Although I will stay on mastery 0 cause I hardly have any rosary beads
mhm
Yo cat 
It is
yo i got dk what do i do now
For armor set smithy, do I need to equip whole set on 1 character to unlock bonus or how does it work?
one time
threats 
I would kill you if you say it's a threat again
Now that's a threat
retreat
March forward
i have class u ๐
I am in library u
always
Never
I will alive you
Ok sorry
Who is teaching right now
the prof
Which sub
c++
Ok is prof he or she
why are u asking 
what sane woman would teach cpp
i mean cs people are crazy so whats the point of asking that tbh
are u calling me a crazy
yes
anyway
cs people are crazy
what else :๐
lul
I have 100k ladles for equinox, which meal should I use it on?
yumi
gfood, and cooking speed
1 plate per
dont have yumi unlocked rn
aint it says to use it all in one go? so I dump 100k on cherry for example?
if you're not far from yumi you can wait a bit
I'm at leek
hmmm
You are indirectly saying almost everyone here is crazy
am i wrong tho...?
I am one of those ppl as well so yes you are wrong
almost might be the wrong word
me when i cant take a joke
We are all crazy
Everyone, everything
No matter what you are you are crazy
I got nothing better to do, after this is done I'll start dark lanterns
best map for SB killing for flags?
citringe
the demented are better prob
for skilling zero stopwatches
Serrated is worse then regular opals :p
But yeah as Elle said, 2 zero stopwatches is best for skilling. Sadly you can only get a total of 5 of em (for now)
As 2 stop watches is needed per one (the one from the W1 quest)
NOT silver or gold watches
I will just keep my Opals for now
(imo there should be a recipe to craft base watch using those two tho)
Tbh I only have one zero point watch still. Emp opals are really good
does the bonus afk breeding time effect spices or just eggs
i did 4
2 on db 2 on sb
I only did one. Im too lazy to do the quests xd
is there a pic for "best active XP card set" ?
ty
From Omni? It's both
"I'm done with this server" :p
Im in the bus waiting to get home and im bored
Lol
...funnnnn
play a game called silksong
Yus
In the bus?
Or beat abs rad in PoH
Mobile HK when
P5 done yet
No
i still have 4 hour shift
Noob
Cringe

Earn more money for lava
shermaballs
Quite literally
Whaat?
Saw a lot of ppl saying its a girl lol
Yup! He's referred to as "he" in a quest tool tip, and a few other areas
cause people are stupid
Tbf if you don't read you wouldn't know
Reading be like
yeah, it pretty much tells you from the start
I just saw a tow truck being towed (however you spell)
I want to farm with a SB some flags, he is with the orange chips, shall I put him something from the right side?
Mob respawn and attack speed stuff is all that matters
so put on him all 3 mob respawn chips?
ye, these are all the chips I got ( for fighting )
it's just AGI and All stats keychains
I checked the gem rotations but why tf are some of the gem so fucked
I heard it was bad but I had no idea it was this bad ๐ญ
Which one?
forgot these even exist
it feels like I am levelling breeding exceptionally slow, is there a specific something I should be doing? I'd really like to hit 40
Idk which ones in particular but I saw some of them are gonna take like a year ๐ญโ๏ธ
is that all? specific pets dont give more xp blah blah?
oh right sorry, I meant more like within the skill do certain actions give more xp?
meals give huge exp for breeding
as well as the vault upgrade, which exponentially increases the exp gained for higher tier eggs
i don't think so
though is it worth waiting than spamming lower tier eggs?
I've sort of just been going for unlocks rather than waiting longer
to a degree yea
although I'm not sure of the calcs
Yeah I've got that one maxed, I don't know if I've gotten the exp meal yet though
oh wait its like the 6th one lol, only lvl 20 on it so far. Hard for me to push much higher with current cooking speeds
using ribbons goob
at the very least it seems I'm not missing something crucial
@mighty rose
Yeah I've been putting some in there too
if only
there is also this that gives insane breeding xp
wait does the meal effect get bigger per level later on?
are you asking if levels give more and more bonus per?
yes
increase is linear, though there is some stuff that multiplies the total effect
like ribbons
summoning, jewel, shinies
hmm yeah ok I'll put a t4 ribbon on it for now and keep it going in the background
oh yes thank god I looked at achievements, managed to just get barley lost
now I just need 5k of these in the next 13hrs ๐ซ
Does anyone do these things?
some crazy ones do
for SB flag is Vman talent bad ? ( not for Rift, just farming flags )
Is there a "formula" for refining? Idk what else to call it but basically what I want to know is when to and when not to rank up my salts
check pins
Okay no wonder im struggling lmao
you need to try to have a 2x difference between their numbers
So I guess I either pause them or refine early for the 2nd and 3rd so my first can catch up?
just turn on autorefine
ye, put orange and blue on Autorfine ON
yes, but that is complicted for early game
they are far away stuff for you usually
easiest is Sailing as starting
and W3 merit + W3 Salt lick
Ah okay, thanks!
these are good starting for you
Sailing gives in total of 100 max talent book, so check it often
I guess its one of those random artefact drops?
At least I think thats what they're called
yes
you keep upgrading boats, explore new islands and you will find it, the artifact which gives talent books
That people is me
achivement push seems reasonable
but merit quests if shop is already maxed
is a Philosophical question 
mid 150 bosses
The cost to produce hogher tier salts make you lose salt every cycle like that
Ok I finally crafted anvil tab 6

you can only claim spice 100 times a day??
big sad. I didn't remember seeing that anywhere, so I just wasted all 100 trying to quickly get the claim spices 10,000 times.
edit: I should have read the name of the achievement better.
can use the talent to claim spice after u claimed 100 times a day
so I'm not cooked? I'll see myself out...
try 1h candy
is it possible to get 10k spices in 2 weeks
whats ur speed rn
like 14m
with all the optimisation and stuffs
thx for the ino but i already maxed all food
show the top bottom and the territory
Time to disable that alert
@fossil kayak sorry for the ping, is this the general team u use for arena right?
did u use the bottom 6 or swapping any with the badumdum
Oops what a derp to forget such an important stamp
i got a gilded axe stamp, but it doesnt get added to my stamp collection when i bring it to the guy
That means you already have it
ive looked at all my stamps and unless im going crazy its not there
You're talking to the banker pig thing in W1 town right?
yah
On the char with the stamp? Some people swap chars and not realising it
That or you deposited it to storage chest
yeah ive got it in the inventory
Weird
ive tried closing the interface and opening it again but still no
just the regular bring it to mr pigibank to add to collection
cloudsave then try again
Can you cloud save really quick and try again
eh so i tried putting it back into storage, then bring it back out then go back to the guy
that worked for some reason
Yeah, cloud save us basically the turn it off and turn it on button
Spaghetti code go brrrr
at least i got it working ahah ty for the help
My divinity progressed so much without me doing anything that when I went back to it yesterday I was able to unlock god 7 8 and 9 all in 1 day and I will get 10 in a couple hours
The neglect is crazy
My dmg basically doubled from 1 day
should i do it? 
I doubt you need the rewards for upping sneak levels
You just get small amount of gems and divinity orbs
more bravery dmg 
what scales that
total skill lvl
Is there an good all in one spice lineup that i can use till i try to unlock all pets in w4?
sneaking slows down a lot at levels and mastery numbers
For example I dont think I get very many levels at all sitting in m3 atm
And I get 0 in m4 seeing as I got 0% survival on all floors above 1
u probably get more xp in m4f1 than m3f12
You can buy those?
in the limited shop right now
ye I would save my gems to see what we get for w7
Those balls are not cheap
i will just buy 5 in case we get something good in the next rotation
any pet guide?
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
how much dr would u guys recommend before unlocking onyx statues
15x
Mostly from vman cooking talent
need like 900-1000 ish total meal level for it to start to snowball
e24 multi 
vman huh, i'll check it later
for the 100,000 laddles equinox, which meal should i level up using it?
yumi
hi Ashley 
hi
Yumi best meal 
nasty meal, who eats sour candy for dinner... 
they eat sawdust
in w4 im having more afk dust at flying worm then biggole wurm even thoght biggole have higher base dust then flying worm, is it because of the mob location or because i lack dmg?
ive just seen thisss time to watchhhhh
(many praises)
HOOLY
What do I put my ribbons on?
can be a bit of both. mob density will affect your rate, same as map layout. and if you need more hit on the wurm to kill them then it will be slower too
2.6 and 2.4x
save both of those for later meals
im very happy hearing what manes said in the first 3 minutes
I figured. Thanks
someone accused him of cheating in the comments
hmmmm idk what to put my last 2 doublers into
what is this, I forgot
wait reallyyyy?
fuck these guys
its a compliment to how committed jiof is, but fuck them for doubting him aswell
im guessing they are not at w6 yet
Beeg red boots
there he issssss
im listening to mane praise you like he should
and its making me happy to hear

Mmm nice 
fuhh i gotta do my dungeons for equinox
@keen parcel umm i know ur cracked at dungeons could u carry me if ur free ๐
What exactly?
happy hour
alr tyy
Howlong is hh for still?
just started
i need help with a rift level. Is there a tool that tells me the best stuff I can put on my character? Like what robe and stuff is best
I wanna be good at dungeons
Your fine
Ill try make 10man party on dice server 13
Ill first let you guys come before ill put out another message for it
alr gimme a sec im getting some water
I use DB AC can be nice too
alr ๐
is a slot still open?
7/10
ig not
whats the max level for meals? 120?
110 atm
ty lucky
Getting pings from multiple servers only saw yours just now
hi i have a question, is there any recommendation which checkout books to get first from library ?
depends on if you need help with fighting or skilling
Guys how do i lvl alchemy fast on journeyman?
!review can show you top priorities
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
likely to drop
Just kill as many as psosible with high droprate
Generally dk / es are quick with it
one giant boop, damn.
No need to be sorry, I believe that is the team I used to push past Arena 200 for the leaderboard. Took me the better part of 2 days to get to round 333.
would u recommend to general arena pushing
if lava ever expand the wave reward
Is there a reason to go past 200??
Is it in tome?
That team probably, you're invincible if everything goes right, just a matter of time
no
got it
btw u didnt use badumdum right
Just the leaderboard, but even that isn't worth it now. You can get to wave like 3k if you go on mobile. Enemy HP overflows.

Technically exploiting 
Rare mobile game W
I did use the whale, but didn't have it on auto like the rest. I just manually spammed it until about 2/3k so I didn't lag out completely.
what did u swap for it
nuke right? cuz not darken like others
Nothing, I used the whale. That image was mid my round 333 run iirc. Don't remember if I had the order swapped around though. It's important that looter is infront of the defender though if you want to be invincible.
ah ty
well dang
game is literaly on the verge of colapsing
its official game froze on round 143
Best four man team for arena level 115?
Is there anything I need to do with that doc to view it?
click it
bottom left youl see pages for different parts of the guide
I appreciate the help I'm just having issues opening the file but I'm on mobile so that's probably why
Same thing I think
iPhone or Android?
Android
Gimme a minute.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.docs.editors.sheets&hl=en_US (This is Google's own Android google sheets app.)
(I've never tried it with the Google Sheet in question, but it's definitely worth a shot. Used to use it for work.)
oh noes a wild tusk has apeared
aight thx
Noes?!
I need help peoples
I want the best way to get to 200 in arena

I have peapod indeed
sup
Morning domebence
howdy
Greetings Nejo dadoums and dome
Stretched plink
gm
wow no greetings for me huh
i needs this aswell i used combo but game froze at wave 144
Yeah that's why I specifically didn't wanna use that I want at least a slightly better one
Cause I feel like
With what I have I can get to 200
Is it worth it to self guild? I get random invites all the time. I've been through the lists here, but just guessing at one of those - assuming they'd take me - seems pretty random as well. I thought if I just solo'd one, I could get at least some tiny benefits, and stop getting random invites. :P (Guilds here strike me as a bit of an afterthought, i.e. not like guild-based games that I've played previously.)
self guilds are not worth it 
Bummer.
but i still did it anyways 
Hahaha!
Thank you so much that worked!
Great!
Awww
I have one with irl friends but they all inactive but one
And even then I promised to make it and keep it
hi
I played Forge of Empires off and on - mostly on - for maybe 8 years, almost all with the same guild/group of people...and while I never met any of those people IRL, they were still real friends. I bop back rarely to say hi (and try not to get sucked back in, lol)
I made my own guild years ago. Many of the bonus maxed... then again, I have over 100k GP, as do couple of my other guildies.
One of the main benefits is to get 100% w6 upgrade stones chance.
I might try it. It's not like I couldn't hang it up if I wanted to join something else. Alas, the name I always use to self-guild is taken - of course it is, this game running as long as it has - so now I have to figure out some variation.
Grainy ah pic but what two pets are these?
You can join my guild, if you want, too. No one really talks, its like not being in a guild but get the benefits. 
Alchemic, converter
Ty
Looks like Converter is BopBox and Panda, and Alchemic is Bloque. All W3. (Could have missed some in the list.)
lol. I'll probably take you up on that. I wanna look at the full interface first.
do guilds even give any usefull benefits?
A bunch of them, according to the Wiki.
(At least, they'd be good for me. :P)
You guys got any tips on how to get more xp in breading cuz I wanna unlock the shiny pets
It's all in hatching eggs. Colored eggs give more XP.
Any other way to gain xp?
Not that I've ever heard of (but I'm no expert). I asked the same thing.
I really need to farm some inf star signs
There's an experience multi but I don't know how to raise that, lol.
There is a spreadsheet in tips and tricks that lets you put in the number of pets you've unlocked and your experience multi, and it'll tell you how much each color of egg is worth. Like for me (6.01 multi, and 29 pets), a regular egg is worth 1848. But a platinum egg is worth 21642.
Alr thanks
Hi guys, couldn'ty find any explanation on how to unlock more infinite star signs
Shiny pets in breeding
shiny pets
any guidance? all i can find is that they unlock in a specific order
Yeah, guilds give decent bonuses. They are time gated, though. You get 5 daily "tasks" worth 10 points each. And 5 weekly, worth 20(?) Each
Shiny pets is the big one
Also, if you don't click on any bonus/don't have any selected in the breeding upgrades section, you can upgrade XP using trashed dna
Schizofrenia:
Fair warning, that upgrade scales horribly
Yeah thats what I was doing but is still slow in my opinion
Anything better than nothing if you can do it
got room in ya guild for an antisocial pleb?
Sure, send your IGN and ill invite
its tangj
Yeah that's so far away for me unfortunately
Should have sent
ye got it thx
Anyway, for reference, the no upgrade costs me 4k for an extra 1% exp currently. And its not even level 40
now it seems il actualy have a reason to do the daily and weekly tasks for the guild
Kaidi36 - That's my first character, if that's what you need. (It covers all my guys, yes?)
Kaidi is my Bubo, mainly sits in the lab. My DK is my current fave, but I hate her name. Probably go for ES. (All my people are named after dead pets. lol.)
Got it, at least I hope that is you. lol.
Yep, it is. Weirdly, it put my lowly little Journeyman as the main, I guess 'cause that's who I'm on in the lab right now.
If you wanna change it just swap to that character. Go to bonuses, then that little blue button
god this is taking an eternity
why not go back and fix stuff 
im fixin stuff slowly as i go but not many quick fix things to raise the dmg
the humble alchemy
im upgrading what i can in alch but not many things can be farmed fast to speed up the process

hole, farming
maybe ruby some cards 
dmg per greenstack
done what i could in hole for today
as far as farming goes im debating over continuing to upgrade things or go for new crop discovery from 2nd and 3rd seed type
is this leaks?
skydoggies
i think like 4 or 5 if im not wrong cant remember
doggies need 70M kills on 9 chars ๐
Gonna need to get that unlocked, W7 gonna release one of these weeks
when w7 releases il just candy my way trough the remaning kills if needed
w7 in december guys
If were lucky 
W7 after the Christmas event, which will have 5 new companions at $20 each, and raffle for limited time companion
I've calculated
I'll be done with the final spirit lock in under 9 days
And I have everyone at the map
lucky 2 of my guys are still on leaks and 2 on ceramics
is it worth just like not pushing w6 until w7 comes out
then candy as soon as it releases
depends on the person
and depends on your stockpile of candy
id just manually push w6 anyways bc it costs like 10x candy than what you need bc you need to get like 9 people up to the top
the portal for the next world is always in the town
oh okay


welcome to jail 
lets say somone did worldos quest, got dungeon pack and immediatly opened them, so they didnt register for slab, totally didnt happen me, but can you get one another way
The main reason I would push w6 is for the boss. Its not like w5 where you can farm keys
Cards are insanely good, and his rare drop is needed for last gear set
if you cant comfortably push w6 now, I dont think candying it will be fun either 
Indeed, and like arctis mentioned... candying on multiple characters gonna burn thru candies
Any idea how to fix this? I'm on the web version. Ive tried doing the mini game and using an Exp balloon. Ive tried cloud saving too
I don think so. it was like this yesterday too
I also dont quite understand how Vman trapping works either. The drone says i'm supposed to get 700M / trap, yet I only get 239M / trap
can you show the difference somehow like where does it say each value in game
web shouldnt have integer overflow right
no telling anymore
Does the XP slowly build or something?
traps dont scale in rewards when your stats go up, you have to re set them to get the higer values
so if you set now you get 709m but when you originally set these the displayed number was 293m
I deleted all traps. set them with Vman. that's the 709 value. 20 hrs later they collected at 293
well, 24, but close enough
not sure then, im not sure deep into the mechanics of how trapping xp works, but thats pretty strange, maybe ace knows more but idk
I thought maybe is was an issue with drone. If i set with Vman, and manually collect with my others, are they supposed to get the same xp
and just to confirm. If I have 8 traps, that 709 value is supposed to be per trap
gotcha. i appreciate the help. i'll tinker more when i have time
Im looking at my guys and im experiencing some weirdness as well, I have a gap in levels from most of mine to my sb.
current theories are that active players recieve less xp when daily reset pops and the auto claim happens, or that a similar desync to summoning happens where (I believe) when the game updates you lose stored xp
I will nod in approval and slowly back away, pretending like i know what any of that means

When the daily reset happened, I think my VMan got 15B trapping XP. Im not quite sure how many traps I actually have placed, but that number seems a little low
but I know Vman has 8 traps. at 709M each, that's not 15B. So that has to be the collection for everyone. And then divvied out accordingly
I cant help you. My characters havent been getting trapping exp either
the plot thickens
Mobile? I don't have full comtext, but overflow gave me trapping exp issues
web
Basically, probba;y overflow
because I collected on Mobile
but still not getting the XP i think I should
you said you used web earlier
I sometimes have to do a little of both. currently on web though
mobile has issues with trapping xp so yes you lose out on that if on mobile
so tomorrow I will wait until home from work to claim. see if that changes anything
what is better to buy in the limited time in the gem shop ?
if you set your traps on mobile their xp value prob wasnt set to 709m and overflowed down on claim but the saved xp value was overflowed down os even on web it gives the mobile value
like there are some good thing to buy now ?
I am fairly positive I set it up on web, but I can always try again
now to figure out how to fix this though
Wait. Wrong one
Blue balls, hats and cauldron
Oh. I thought you wanted the entire tier list
Is there a way to tell the atom to not use an object in storage? Iโm working on bubbles n want to use it but not lose my progress
It always works
set your limit to 1050. otherwise you can just turn the atom thingy off
Turning it off is the same as having it at 1050m
Yea itโs off but I need atoms. Donโt want to lose 600 copper bars
left hand side of the atom collider in W3. change limit to 1050
It will only eat them if there are 1050m of them. 600 bars are safe?
but even then, i think the min is 10M, so you will be fine
100m
Maybe 50... nvm
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Im not beating the allegations of being able to read anytime soon

unfortunately only results are results
dumb question, but how do you refine only 10%? I only have the option of on or off
cant anymore, take 10% to mean turn on autorefine and 0% to be turn off autorefine
They changed that, unfortunately. I think it was kinda buggy. Now it's just on or off.
no bugs, just more confusing for newbies
damn, I could've really used it
theres no functional difference
auto refine on means you gain salt but dont store it so no rank ups, auto refine off means the opposite, which is the same circumstance that 10% autorefine put you in, auto refine on is essentially setting it to .01% instead of 10
What is the strategy for beating the level 3 boss in the world 3 dungeon? I am trying to knock that equinox out
have better dungeon rank basically
Rank 43 probably too low?
Is there a party up method for world 3?
I have enough trouble for world one happy hour
any party with someone that knows wha theyre doing will be free
just do a w1 dungeon on happy hour and do the other one with non-happy hour
Any suggestions for finding someone? Sorry for all the questions
ask luckykid if u see him in w1 chat or really any of the regular question answerers
Thank you
I can carry you thru w3 dungeon, for price...
Hmu tmrw and ill give it go
Ty
I hit a cap with skilling (like level 30 ish where i just cannot get more efficiency)
any tips, leveling past that gets weird
Better gear. Higher stats. Account bonuses (Hole/Poppy for mining/cutting/fishing eff), alchemy
make sure you socket all your mage armor on your archer
Shaquracy bubble in alchemy + Using gear that boosts agi.
Shaquacy? Idk if I have that ill check tho
It's a green bubble
I haven't been investing in alchemy yet lol should i?
Green #8
100%
Alchemy is the #1 fix to 99% of progression problems
Low def? Alchemy. Low accuracy? Alchemy. Low damage? Alchemy. Low skilling efficiency? Alchemy. Low alchemy bubble lvls? Alchemy.
I meant this
there's a meme chart somewhere I just saw today that all problems lead to alchemy
Lol
Ok ill get to it
Thanks!
Ok so I trie
But I only had 50 liquid and my cap is 100
Should I get a higher accuracy?
I meant cap
Ill take that as a yes!

maybe more regen and then spend it more often
I upgraded absolutely everything I could
returning player after a long-ish break. I was wondering if the class meta changed in anyway way after more master classes got released. or is it still the same as pre master classes
build speed is so irrelevant when youre constantly out of salts lol
still double DK, 9th and 10th are the weird spot, as some wait for w7 master class or get 2 master class like 2 WW or 2 DB (one DB plenty enough to finish the grimoire currently), or 2 AC for when afk tach is there.
is the
part
when do I get the ninja upgrade thing in rift? It says meet me in rift what level?
I want to say 56
let's say the last rift bonus
if we go by the though that rift 51 is the second last bonus with killroy prime, then 56 would be sneaking mastery 
how do i level up a shiny pet?
put shiny pet in yard, wait ||or play actively on BM/WW with vman's enhancement||
so you actually have to play?
to have the shiny bonus max level? yeah
to have it somewhere between 1 and 9? can just leave as is in the yard
Shinies take forever if you do not play with BM/WW
-# with vman's enhancement
when w7 colo
When w7
when
wh
bro sum hand things with eyes circled me, said they where gonna kill me, realised i wasnt my characters name with a 2 at the end and then left
yeah proly lava doing things, is what peeps are saying
i dont remember exactly, but they said sum like your time has come we will make sure to make it painless, then they said, wait your not (my chars name with a 2 at the end) and then left
psure they where called null nightmares, sum with null at the start
yee gen chat talking about those
best team for speedrun pet arena tome?
Arena Wave 100 for Tome from @araragi
found in #1277368276095336558
Oh welp meant link the msg
Question: if I have put shiny pets in the fenceyard and leveled up the shiny to say, level 14, what happens if I remove the shiny pet from the fenceyard and delete it? Do I lose my shiny levels?
not bad
Deleting a shiny pet does nothing to the level, you wonโt lose nothing
Thanks!
And worms defeated
just took some manual movement
can now farm dr on clammies kekw
lava should make it so I can operate idleon with my thoughts
no more logging in ๐ฅ
with breeding: do all damage with the same pet is the same or does it do more damage with the high number?
is this really hard or my skill issue?
lazy ass
kinda hard early on
okk 
just need done 1 more quest for the talent equinox
but hard asf
I wann play but dont wanna spend 2 hours daily doing shit...
aw sorry
what does tot mean? this is rift bonus
like any other skill in rift bonus the more you level construction you get bonus
total
if u have 800 total con lv through all buildings u get 80% ref speed
thats how it works
What is 'cog clicking'?
do I put my DKs in the cog construction and they build extremely fast?
making cogs until u get better cogs
does my build rate/hr have an effect on cog build speed?
no
one down
what next 
Its been a while since the last i've played idleon much, im back from my break, and i have forgotten alot๐ need to remember what i was doing before
lets gooooo i broke 10mil min dmg on a bravery runnnnn
24k on justice and wisdom, already at 22k for each atm so only 2k more to go
I see
and with 1000% monument thats only 200 hours per one to go, so like 4 days before theyre all at 24k hours
then 100k bravery grind
is the reason that the defense requirement for no hit is skyrocketing in world 4 because it counts crystal mobs or is there another reason? going from 2k to 7k in a single world seems like a big jump
leaving this here, will come back and compare after i cog
finally working on upgrading my traps past steel, should I just set all of my characters to 20min silkskin on dung beat and spam claims, and if so, with or without the shiny snitch prayer?
an alrightish wisdom for 4x
you got thissss 
10k playerxp bonus easily
depends on what youre going for
right now I specifically need 10x10 jade scarabs
are you only needing the materials for the traps?
then yeahhh shiny traps
if youre actively clicking them then 20 minutes is the best, but honestly just chucking them on 20 hours with autoclaim from trapper drone can be nice to passively do it
Best map to farm crystal kills on dk
mainly I'm wondering if I should or shouldn't use the shiny snitch prayer, one lucky proc would make it so I instantly get the stage done
holy
*w4
but also I don't know how low the odds would go ๐
shiny snitch is good to use
clammies
world 4 best for crystals specifically pretty much any of them since its on a crystal chance, but most beneficial is clammies since youll need a lot of pearlers
clankies
wow racist jake
im just repeating what you put so you cant escape yourself
Hi everyone!
What way are there to increase the accuracy?
I'm on w4 and having a difficult time increasing my accuracy.
I've used the upgrade stones with the relevant class (agility for my mage to used archer for the upgrades), increased the corresponding skill to the max, vault shop
Are there any more ways?
you meaning the odds on the max prayer?
yeah, with the like 88x lower chances
Anyone know a decent set up for TD? I just wanna get anything more than 40 waves ๐
no ss no proof
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
or check out nocturnegaming on youtube he has setups for everything on wave 200
ohhh you just meant how often it would procc not the actual odds, cause i would have gone to screenshot the prayer if you wanted
Thanks!!
Bro my void tower is like lvl 1 ... Poison is 5
i mean give it a go and see, spam a few 20m silky traps with the prayer on, if no luck switch it off, but im pretty sure its better with prayer on
then the guide sheet above is best bet
Most guide just assume i have busted maxed out towers ๐
my eyes are natural screenshots
i definitely dont have aphantasia so i wouldnt be able to picture it properly if i tried
wawawawawa
guess whos nearly onto mastery 4 @fresh parrot
ooooo they added a command for it now lets gooooo
and look at youuuu being the one to make it
is a decent way to get some accuracy if you can print some bloaches with your BB also if you have 2nd bubble and cheaper upgr bubble its good to use archer based char to do upgrades as they will be slightly cheaper
only reason i didnt hit it a couple days ago is cause i went back to fix some of my items
all my lotus's were +600s basically, and my beads were like +700s ish
and did a little bit of gem grinding
ill need to go back and do more soon but mastery 4 will be juicy
woooo pro jake
Me when lenses
level 173 151 and 120 on those too so closing in slowly on them
You have those(?
yeahhhh slightly rough, but ill need to farm up statues to 300 at some point hey
my big progress
youre so closeeeeee
Lmao
100k to gooooo, then sigils doneee til world 7 and he brings out a new tier
ts is taking FOREVER
thats gonna be like 100mil to max the last one
gm
good morning domeee
do i still get orb kills afk?
no
1 more day fr
howd you manage to get this one done so quickly with only like 2x the dmg
but you finished it before it was even half way
or did you only justttt beat it and take the screenshot after they made it a little further
@polar geyser did you use spikes?
yeahhhhhh i always use spikes out of just habit now
when i was still trying to push the lower level stuff i basically only got by on spikes cause i was so far below in atk
and just relied on the spikes to kill enough on spam that the other units could push everything back to kill
Should be enough with doubled yellow spikes and spam on him
i ran out of things to put doublers on so just threw the last one on endless hp
how does this work when I use trapping drone to place for all characters? Does it snapshot the character I'm dropping traps on, or do I need to get every character's trap eff/exp/shiny chance maxed before dropping them all in 1 shot?
oh lmfao
the boss was literally at my hp line(?)
ohhhhh
like literally I did not think I'd kill cuz it was so close
yeah on the screenshot they were like all half way up so i was like how tf do you have 2x the dmg and killed it half way up
snapshot the one placing
that was why i went to go and try kill it cause i thought if you got it half way up i might just be able to finish it at the line
sadgee
its okayyyy i dont push summoning much so its not like the life lost means anything
guess what i just gotttttt
w4 crystal medallion is now downnnnnn
time to try w5 real quick with this days totm
not badddd odds either
still good giant chances right now too
i need the rune but i dont wanna feed colo tickets into it atm ngl
okay totm over, no luck sadly, but i did get like 20 crystal kills so we take that
and got a giant as i typed that cause i forgot to stop autoing and got another 10 crystals from that chain
jeeee
but sadly 20/213 didnt get lucky enough
oh well theres always next week
maybe i could afford a couple totm's on dungeons for tries on medallions tbf
im just holding off on pushing ww and db until world 7 ngl for 2 reasons
cause the tome increase that can give increases
but also i realised that the ac gems also give like 80% dust and bones so i need to work on those
have you moved onto bullying me now sclythe
my fuckin game froze bro
welcome back
Dont let her 
show ur abuse
im reaping what ive sown
u reap nothing
start when
right when i unlocked it?
what should i get on my 8th character? its gonna be my first dupe
2nd dk preferably
welp to the right chat
when onyxing a statue, does it apply the bonuses retroactively? Eg, if I invest 10k statues, then onyx it, is that equal to onyxing first and then investing 10k statues?
each onyx statue increases the statues deposited by 10% so
that doesn't mean onyxing wouldn't do that retroactively. It entirely depends on how it's coded
no, since you have a bonus for each onyx
so better have all onyx done and then deposit
- bubble and snake vial
that's what I've been doing thank goodness
actually, apparently it's gone way too long. had these in the bank, un-onyxed
not that I really need them anymore except for talent points from the skills, both skills are maxed and done.
i have 78 wp bow (3/5) and just about to open all portals in w4, will it be enough for me or do i need to farm a better bow?
And tome
and im at 29 medals right now, is this the point in WW where i need to slow down and farm medallion daily till i ramp up the dmg? got 70 of the afk items so wasnt sure if i wana save them and chill till i farm more medallions or if i do have something i can do with them
defo farm some medallions on the way
for sake of this while Lava could in theory make it retroactive, via storing your total statue count and using that against the formula for each levels cost it almost certainly is not how it's handled, the method presumably used is just the much simpler "This is an EXP bar increase it by Statue*DepositBonus" which also allows the addition of things like Startue Experience (the bubble) from being easier to mathematically manage (as it would require a full recalculation of all your statue levels every time the bubble was increased at all if retroactive statues levels were a thing)
The absolute easiest way to code it is just to have the statue object return
bonus = statue_amount * (formula) * (onyx ? x : 1);
Where x is whatever increase onyx gives.
And it would give zero shits about wether you onyxed it first or not.
The level would be displayed the same way.
Lava is digging blood out of his own nose coding it like he does, but who am I to judge, I'm just a software architect.
If you mean the bonus value, onnyx is "retoractive" but that's because onyx just multiplies the bonus
the aspect mentioned was the quantity of statues deposited which is not retroactive
yeah, thanks. It's fine ๐
I don't know the requirement for levels but as a very simple example of how Onyxing works functionally is
Lets assume for example every statue level takes 10 statues not scaling and each lvl gave 1% effect
if you deposit 1000 statues in this context you'd get 100 levels and get 100% effect
If you onyx that statue after you'll now have 200% effect, if you instead onyxed before you'd get 220% effect, because you'd deposit 1000*1.1 statues and get to lvl 110, which would then be doubled by onyx
the difference of course won't nearly be as extreme in game since the cost to upgrade each level scales so later level take more and more each
Indeed, but architecturally, keeping track of the level or bonus is redundant since you already know how many statues you have. The level is just a function of the amount of statues you deposited, factored by onyx. Saving the level value and calculating the bonus from that instead is just extra redundant work. You only need to cache the bonus in the client so you don't have to do the calculation all the time.
but you need to do that anyway
main thing I was thinking was weird was Startue though I guess in theory it could just reduce each levels EXP needed by a given amount instead of the way it currently works, so it would be definitely feasible, I imagine this was just the simple solution so it was used
do I still get cards if I splice?
no
Species Epoch only works when the combined level of Worship & Trapping is above 100 for Vman right?
larger than 100
i kinda dont understand plunder ye deceased talent, does it give me autoloot? even if i havent bought it
autoloot the specific coins from mobs
the skull coins
you spend them on the flag automatically to force respawn mobs
if you have vman enhance, when you get over 100 coins at once you spend 25 to force spawn a plunder mob
any tips for this quest?
just do it?
i guess just afk farm on all my characters on w1 right
1m kills on 40 different mobs.
just so you know youl need to visit the deathnote to update that quest just do you dont get confused why its not updating
somebody bless me with farming knowledge
do I upgrade those equally or I need to focus one?
pretty sure farming is not w3/4

that's basically what I do and was told to do - bump up multikill as possible and camp every character I got for 5-8 hours on a single area. w1 and w2 will not be enough for 40 mind you
OR if you want to take your time with it you can have only your blood barb do that. He's getting bonuses from 100k kills and..I think later it was for 1m kills? or more?
also be prepared the next stage will be camping only the maestro for like 12m kills on green mush
1m, 100m and 1b
a b c of bb
its all of the mobs from w1-3 including side routes
Wonder if it would count w4 mobs if I skipped some routes on earlier ones
dont think so

welp, my multikill would hurt if I skipped any w1 anyway...ergh, wood mushrooms..ergh
ask w6
I asked
never got response
edit: I got it 
ye, just here are vibing usually some big guys who help with anything
holy moly thnaks for sharing
is level up gift bubble worth using for the amount of gems it gives
get sheepie and all big bubbles equipped
dont got the gems to buy pets
and the game is starting to freeze
The fact that you went out of your way to disable badumdum but not borger makes me unreasonably angry
just did a run to see if it would freez if i didnt go over 1500 stacks on badum as last night it was full auto and froze around 1600 stacks
Gl, make sure you don't have anything open on that device but idleon
oh i got chrome open with about 40 tabs
That's really stupid, I hope it freezes
but ye i had to close the game it completly froze
There you go
i mean i was looking at resources used by the game
Doesn't matter just don't have anything else open
nothing was using anything more then usual

