midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[fresh parrot]

@candid creek tryhard

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[candid creek]

Fack you!

[naive dragon]

so why does 1 get red and 1 get blue?

[quiet crane]

wdym

connected to lab and not connected to lab i assume

[naive dragon]

oh but the other 3 got the blue power button on their icon

[quiet crane]

its blue if they are in lab and its red if they arent

[naive dragon]

oh these 2 pictures are different character
so 1 can link everyone and the other can't is what I meant
the link everyone is the DK and the red is the bubo

the 3 that on the right isn't in lab rn

[quiet crane]

they have arctis i assume ?

equipped*

[naive dragon]

I currently have 0 god rn, it is really confusing haha

I check over divinity and I don't think I have it?

[strange prism]

put 9 characters on alter, claim every few hours, click left option till right is 100% chance

[manic zealot]

this one is closer, but no cigar..

[mortal mountain]

Might be ES with double link

[wicked juniper]

how can i craft platinum axe when i cant hold 6.5k tropilogs and 5k chains in my inv?

[naive dragon]

someone informed me that Doot give every active when I hit divinity level 2
that makes sense now :D

[reef moon]

yea thats doot power for ya

[reef moon]

incr carry capacity

stamp and craftable bags

i just realised i got a bunch of storage space that isnt used properly

[wicked juniper]

💔 theres no short way sigh

[limpid bough]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-baby-cat-dancing-gif-17299135450042149903

[sly edge]

been "afk" for well over a year
what teams do I want for this?

[strange prism]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[daring plinth]

Hey, I’m on my AC and hit a crazy hard stop on Soda Cans in World 4, any advise on Crystal placement?

[ashen steppe]

is the 3x coin thing from gemshop anygood

[candid creek]

If you want coins yes, personally I wouldn't get it

[hexed cairn]

It's nice

[ashen steppe]

hm

u can only use it on one character right

[candid creek]

If you have the gems for it get draconic, if you have draconic then get something from the other parts of the gem shop or save the gems for world 6

[ashen steppe]

but u can choose which character

[candid creek]

Yes, it's like a sword

[ashen steppe]

k

[candid creek]

Yes, it's an item I believe, meaning you can move it character to character

[ashen steppe]

i got draconic

[candid creek]

It says it's a pendant at least, I lift be wrong

[ashen steppe]

i think ill try and get the other contruction slots and maybe the cogs then

[dense fable]

shall I buy this because it gives big bonus to whole sailing I think?

[balmy crystal]

buy every ender captain

[ashen steppe]

how many clouds are there in total

[ashen steppe]

what level do u have to be to unlock them

[dense fable]

it was this unlock at W6

[dense fable]

this is the whole map

[ashen steppe]

o

[hexed cairn]

Hungry

[ashen steppe]

k thx im like 2 away from the last

[dense fable]

are these coming only from alchemy shop ?

[reef moon]

only 99584 more to go

[near lava]

Weird way to say 10m

[reef moon]

not going for green stack going for the beanstalk

[ashen steppe]

oh word i should rlly try and craft ts

[reef moon]

you need a bazilion hotdogs

[zenith hare]

eh thats the easy part

its the whole crafting them thats hard

[reef moon]

na just the craft button and it goes brrrrrrrrrrrrr

[zenith hare]

you can max beanstack em relatively early on

[zenith hare]

you need to craft 1b peanuts for 10m gpeanuts

[reef moon]

isnt 100K max on beanstalk

[zenith hare]

which needs you to have the carry cap for that, unless you want to let go and waste 30 mins of build up

[zenith hare]

yeah and thats the easy part, still takes ages

[reef moon]

only amining for beanstalk with em anyway might make a pause after 10K spend a few days to go for 100K while others spend afk time getting kills in w6 portals

[zenith hare]

You'll want an extra 10k for prints

[remote tangle]

i have a question i have the "Anvil Production Pipeline" in the "Automation Arm" dose it collect for all charters after i claim afk on the or do i have to claim on all charters?

[candid creek]

The one you claim afk on

[reef moon]

its once a day on reset time

[candid creek]

It puts it in the chest for everyone but doesn't give them xp I don't believe

[zenith hare]

No it's on all

It doesn't account for Ur afk claim time

So it just insta refills on everyone

[reef moon]

so before reset you should log on all char so anvil updates

[candid creek]

Really?

[zenith hare]

Yups

[candid creek]

I thought it claimed all of them on the character you're on which is why only the claimer got the xp

Or does everyone get xp now, did lava fix it

[zenith hare]

But everyone gets the xp??

[remote tangle]

so i only have to claim on one charter to cliam for all?

[zenith hare]

Everyone always has got the xp?

[candid creek]

Must be Griffybit

[zenith hare]

They all will claim before you claim the afk gains per character

[candid creek]

Misinformation as usually

Pretty sure I got that info from him anyway

[silver talon]

Yeah, move speed and either skill levels or luck, depending on who you're using for it

[ashen steppe]

🫩

[mortal mountain]

I was gonna ask if you had doot as well lol

[woeful karma]

why do i somtimes get a 1h time candy when using a 24h one?

[white lintel]

talent/star sign

[strong linden]

I need to turn off autoloot for this tails on platforms right?

[woeful karma]

ah yeah i forgot about this

[acoustic ice]

i just got to w4 and my storage is very full. leaving w4 for what it is now since i want to get the journeyman now. what stuff should i keep in my storage and what should i get rid of?

[woeful karma]

its this im p sure

didnt know it worked when using candies

[dry ermine]

U need a bigger stash, but u can drop a lot of the upgrade stones, just keep mystery ones for stamps

[mossy anvil]

Keychains and seasame seed 2nd pic,maybe weapons too

[dry ermine]

And u dont need to keep the world progress stones u get from killing a boss

[mossy anvil]

Iirc 3rd pic thst w4 items are useless after u unlocked stuff with them

[crude latch]

Just buy more chests e z pee z

[mossy anvil]

I would keep world stones as future thing maybe

[fair hare]

I went through IE/Wiki and tracked down every storage unit I could build or quest for.

[acoustic ice]

get rid of them? some of my characters dont have a keychain yet. should put those on them and the gold weapon was for my squire (keep forgetting to take it from the storage) and the carrot one was for a recipe i need to make eventually

[fair hare]

What does your storage tab look like?

[acoustic ice]

or should i hunt for it when i need it?

[acoustic ice]

i have bought all that i could get from shops

[fair hare]

(You have two meat pie piles, or whatever those are called. :)

[mossy anvil]

Then equip them, u need storage space

Also u have 2 gold stacks

[acoustic ice]

tyty, thought it stacked on each other after i did sort all

[acoustic ice]

butter bar (wait nvm, i see it now. im dumb)

[fair hare]

There are a bunch of Quest based chests, I think

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Storage#Storage_Chests

[mossy anvil]

check on storage info what u are missing

[acoustic ice]

tyty, useful list. i have all from 1-21 and the frog one. i might have to grab another storage upgrade from gemshop then

[fair hare]

TV one is 8 slots, biggole worm one is 9 slots. (lol, I don't think I have either of those.)

Also, have you built all the ones from construction?

[daring plinth]

When they are all at 20k afk hours lol but always multi

[fair hare]

There are the free ones from construction (not chests, just slots). And did you get the storage slots from the upgrade vault?

[acoustic ice]

not all fro vualt yet, ty for the reminder. and yeah im not that far with con yet. waiting to get my red salt 1 more power up then i can do more with the orange salt

tyty for the help all

[fair hare]

np :)

[mossy anvil]

where could i check how many w7 bubbles im missing

[fair hare]

Maybe idleon efficiency, lemme see.

[acoustic ice]

do you mean idleontoolbox?

[mossy anvil]

i didnt see it in toolbox

[fair hare]

I'm assuming it shows all bubbles, and IdleonEfficiency shows me everything I am missing.

[fair hare]

Toolbox is here: https://idleontoolbox.com/account/world-2/bubbles

[mossy anvil]

yes it shows up to w6 bubbles, but i want to see w7

those are last w6 bubbles

and that black circle are w7 bubbles

[fair hare]

Lemme try auto review. lol.

[mossy anvil]

i want to see how many unlocks im missing

[fair hare]

(I have a tab group with all the Idleon sites that I load every morning. Sheesh.)

[mossy anvil]

got it, thanks

[west pilot]

Isn't It down rn

Not loading for me

[fair hare]

You have to load it with your profile.

like just...https://idleontoolbox.com first.

[west pilot]

I mean Page not even loading

Since like this morning

[fair hare]

Loading fine for me?

[mossy anvil]

toolbox loading fine for me aswell

[fair hare]

Updating and everything. Maybe close it, remove your cookie, and relog in?

[west pilot]

Got banned from toolbox, too powerful mb

Just wanted to check Dr leaderboard

[fair hare]

Ahh, I don't use that. :)

[west pilot]

Reached new max today

[fair hare]

lmao - because I KNOW my DR sucks and don't need to be reminded. 🤣

Very nice! I think mine is 7.5. lol.

[west pilot]

🔥

[mossy anvil]

do people already max pearl vial or is it not possible yet/too much time

[white lintel]

no

[west pilot]

Not possible

[mossy anvil]

ty

[reef moon]

share some with the rest of us

[remote echo]

how do you get the final 2 atom collider elements? magnesium and aluminium?

[white lintel]

wuh wuh

[remote echo]

mine doesnt have the last 2?

[white lintel]

ww

compass

bm master class'

[remote echo]

ahhhh tysm

[white lintel]

[west pilot]

Nuh uh

Gotta reach 300

[reef moon]

im strugling also to reach 23

[acoustic ice]

i can get rid of those?

[silver talon]

Most likely, if you have better alternatives

It's always worth checking wiki though in case something is used for a recipe

[white lintel]

yes

[hexed cairn]

[fair hare]

I did dump a bunch of some of those and it turned out they were needed for a recipe or maybe a quest? But IIRC, didn't look like it'd be difficult to restock.

[fair hare]

I'd look 'em up. e.g. the Efaunt Helmet uses two armor upgrade stones. (They're the sucky low ones that take up slots whether they work or not, though, and I think you get them from fighting Efaunt, lol.) eta - Doot/Mush/Slush/Biggie Hours. You're probably safe.

[hexed cairn]

[acoustic ice]

when im using the refinery ability from squire, should i get all the red salt out so i can get the ability on explosive salt as well? believe the red salt is like 400/800 now

idk if that makes sense, still new and starting w3 a whole lot comes at you at once kinda

[fair hare]

I only take red salt out when it's done?

[supple scarab]

You’re safe to get rid of those. There is one that is dropped by Efaunt for crafting its gear. Look at your cards (or use the wiki) to see which one it is.

[hexed cairn]

never collect unless you are desperate. always uprank red salt

[reef moon]

never take salt out before upgrade

[supple scarab]

Correct. You should only refine your red salt once it’s full.

[acoustic ice]

yeah i use wiki to prep for some future craft i want to do

[fair hare]

I checked W1-W4, and yeah, that was the only one.

[acoustic ice]

gotcha,

[reef moon]

i fucked up when i began and im still trying to fix my refinery ranks

[fair hare]

I reallllly slowed myself down doing that at first.

[supple scarab]

If you look up refinery in the tips and tricks section, there should be recommend refinery rank ratios.

[fair hare]

Also, make sure you keep them at balanced levels. You need the most of red, less of orange, even less of green, etc. There is a graphic around here somewhere.

[fair hare]

Yep, I finally got mine all balanced. :)

[reef moon]

oh dam never had that many chests and i got no idea what i did

[fair hare]

(That comment about taking 'em out was to Memet, should have used a reply :) )

[pulsar basin]

There's no really balanced/best ration. Best thing is just keep leveling up Red Salt, always.

[plain heath]

how many hours?

[reef moon]

750

[tender pine]

do you get more trapping cards if you set the traps to a longer duration or is it the same each time (meaning 20 min claims is most efficient)

[acoustic ice]

yeah i saw a video saying red salt and another one i havent unlocked yet, i should upgrade those first before the other salts go too quick for those

[acoustic ice]

i think with some characters i pushed certain things to fast because of which im lacking other things on those characters

[plain heath]

the rng blessed you that run

[fair hare]

Mine are all screwy but getting better. lol.

[fair hare]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

That's the ranking list for refinery.

[white lintel]

!refinery use this image instead

[candid scarab]

The refinery will produce salts on a cycle as long as you have the required materials in your chest when the timer hits 0. In order to increase the rank of a salt in the refinery, you have to let your power bar for the salt completely fill before refining.

To stay salt positive, follow this process. Make sure to grab the merit shop upgrades and always rank up Red and Green salts.

[fair hare]

I use that, but in the beginning, when everything wasn't open yet, I found it easier to use the chart, especially because I'd already screwed up the balance.

[acoustic ice]

tyty, saved it

[daring crypt]

how high should my alchemy be? im in world 3 rn

[gilded flame]

does this affect alchemy progress when im farming on bubo

[dense fable]

Crafting time for the family

[dense fable]

don't bother that for a while, just push to W6

[dense fable]

Class XP = Character level, so it does not affect Alchemy ( as I know )

only this gets xp

[daring crypt]

why not?

[dense fable]

it will be easier to think about alchemy if you reached W6

[gilded flame]

its slow af

in w3

[dense fable]

this is the meta ( I did this too ) :
Start playing the game, push to W6 , then go back to play every town mechanic in chill

once you unlocked every town mechanic, they can progress together, so everything boosts everything

when I was a beginner, I barely opened alchemy
I mean, I didn't spend time to collect the materials to upgrade bubbles

[daring crypt]

why is pushing w6 so good? dont i need alchemy to boost accuracy and dmg

[dense fable]

in W6 there are town skills which are "going by time"
so once you unlock it, you can check every 10 hours that skill as example

so if you push it fast, while you try to figure out every mechanic in the towns, that W6 is progressing itself

the accuracy and dmg concerc is correct, you can focus on those, but not too much
example :

[daring crypt]

but getting to w6 is a msssive challenge no? the damage and accuracy how do i keep up?

i didnt let you finish typing my bad

[dense fable]

this one is important

for accuracy

[daring crypt]

yeah and fmj i know

when do i farm materials for better gear then?

[dense fable]

pushing W6 is easy, because of upgrade vault

Damage will be okay, Accuracy will be a problem

here is a pic, save it for accuracy infos :

[daring crypt]

any to fovus on in particular?

[dense fable]

nah, you just upgrade all of them when you get money, they will reach a maximum level as you see in my book

spend in every upgrade money when you can

[dense fable]

you just need W1 boss armor ( Amarok armor) and you can reach W6

[daring crypt]

okay ty ill do this then

[dense fable]

you craft this set, and you are good to go

[daring crypt]

i have 0 keys left how do i get more?

[daring crypt]

i was told not to craft helmet on multiple guides though?

[dense fable]

you can get daily keys by that npc standing at the Boss entrance

[dense fable]

ah ye, that is correct, because it's difficult to craft it

[daring crypt]

he just gives me a quest

[sleek pollen]

Before it was not worth because of the rare material, now is worth because of armor set bonus for the acc and def

[dense fable]

ah yeee, that is correct

[daring crypt]

do i need to recraft it every world?

[thick tendon]

set bonus is good because of the accuracy which youll need for w4/w5

[dense fable]

you should craft every armor set for bonuses

[sleek pollen]

Sure for the new upgrade stone

[thick tendon]

its not worth earlier

[thick tendon]

40% is big

[daring crypt]

how do i get kets the npc only gives me a quest

[fair hare]

Craft one full set of every armor. (Some sets include tools and stuff.)

[thick tendon]

u get em daily

[dense fable]

ah ye about that
you should do the first quest on that npc with EVERY character

[sleek pollen]

First quest when completed gives daily keys, do it in all char, last quest and first gives keys

[daring crypt]

yeah i didnt and i used all the slabs for armour so i cant do his quest

[dense fable]

in that way, that npc gives that many keys/day for each character

example : if you done it with 7 character ( I assume you have 6 or 7 now )
you can 7 keys/day

[daring crypt]

do i need to go up with each character manually or is it all in 1?

[dense fable]

the stone for the quest is different from the Boss stone, it drops from mobs

[sleek pollen]

To collect the daily keys? Can collect all in one char

[dense fable]

the claiming keys is only 1 character going there and claiming it

[daring crypt]

okay ty ill try do the merit quest to unlock the head armour ty

[dense fable]

also, they can stack up for 3 days in total

example : you did the quest with 7 character --> you wait 3 days --> go with your main to the npc, it drops 21 keys

[daring crypt]

okay tysmm

is it worth doing the higher diffculties?

[dense fable]

not for now

[daring crypt]

such as chatoic

[dense fable]

when you select the next difficulty, it will show some red warning if you are not prepared

if you don't have warning, you are good to go ( it drops cards which is really coool )

[daring crypt]

i have enough accuracy for chaotic but it costs 3 keys, is it worth?

[dense fable]

this is the Chaotic W1 boss, very cool card

yes, do it

[daring crypt]

stacked account

whale

[dense fable]

true, I spent 100$ 🐳

[hexed cairn]

15% is nice

[dense fable]

but you can reach this in F2P too what you see on my pic

[daring crypt]

dang im f2p this whole time. maybe thats why im in world 3 for over 3 days

[dense fable]

nah it's fine, there are some endgamers F2P too

[daring crypt]

need to spend 100 bucks rq

[strange prism]

max t3 kruk, ew

[hexed cairn]

[strange prism]

[hexed cairn]

go gem farming

[strange prism]

[hexed cairn]

[strange prism]

[daring crypt]

what should my other characers be doing while i push with barb?

[hexed cairn]

get their sub class

[daring crypt]

to w4

[daring crypt]

in w3 rn

[dense fable]

everybody can push some W3 for XP in AFK

I pushed all my chars W1, W2, W3, to unlock the Boss key npc's

so I could get daily keys, it really helped

[daring crypt]

okay and what equipnent should they realistically have?

[reef moon]

or you can leave them to increase their skills in mining fishing catching and choping

[hexed cairn]

amarok all the way to w6

[daring crypt]

yeah okay ill do this then

[dense fable]

a piece of paper XDD
I think I pushed full naked some guys

[daring crypt]

okay ty, journeyman 7th char yes?

[dense fable]

randomly put him afk a mob and next day he opens portal XD
I mean, if you wanna just chill, that's how I played as beginner

[hexed cairn]

i won't bother with boss NPC for w2/w3 even w1. i can only claim like 6 still

[dense fable]

W2 is easy, but ye W3 is tricky quest

[strange prism]

2130 cards and I get 20 a go

[hexed cairn]

100 time s ez

[dense fable]

yes, he should do some killing for XP first ( AFK )
then he should do some works

he will be the main workers guy, he spends years in skills

[hexed cairn]

you mean eating candies?

[strange prism]

need ruby to end up in shop again

[dense fable]

that is an option too 🍭

[daring crypt]

when i get into w4 what subclass do u push with?

[hexed cairn]

DK allthe way

[dense fable]

Squire --> DK will be your main

[daring crypt]

okay thankyou 🙂

[dense fable]

Barbarian will be Blood Berserker, he is the best AFK killer guy

Squire --> DK is the best ACTIVE killer guy

[hexed cairn]

bard the canedy eater too

[reef moon]

gibb candy in w6!!!!

[daring crypt]

how do i active?

[dense fable]

when you reach W4, you should get these classes first :
Squire --> DK
Shaman --> Bubonic
Hunter --> Beast master

there are the most important ones first ( they help in W4 )

[daring crypt]

okay i definitely will. how do i actice what does that mean

[dense fable]

Active = you let the game running on phone/pc while you do other stuff ( idk, play other games, watch movie, work, leave house XD)

[daring crypt]

and whys this better?

[dense fable]

as example today I played 15 hours Idleon on steam
( PC running and killing monsters XD) while I was doing other stuff all day

[strange prism]

[dense fable]

in Active everything is faster and more OP

[daring crypt]

im on mac xd im using the apple store version

cant even use wasd to move

[dense fable]

more xp, faster killing, faster portal unlocking, aaand in the mid-late game there are things you can only do in Active

[reef moon]

im runing idleon for 21 days straith

[daring crypt]

thats crazy work

[reef moon]

na i just never turn off my PC

so its just runingt in background

[daring crypt]

will my game not lag out with all the drops on the floor?

[dense fable]

uf, here comes the fun part, you need Autoloot ( 5$ pack ) to do that

[daring crypt]

then my f2p title goes away 🙁

[supple scarab]

This is known as the cost to play the game. It's totally worth it.

[dense fable]

OR
you can filter out the basic mob drop ( = it will never drop )
and only the rare stuff will be on ground, but you gotta collect them every 30 minutes I think

[daring crypt]

damn im stuck behind a paywall

[dense fable]

so, in late game if you wanna do content , you gotta check every 30 mins the pc/phone for drops

[daring crypt]

thats so bad bruh

[hexed cairn]

GLplaying without autoloot for masterclasses

[dense fable]

it's not impossible, just not that comfortable, than letting it farm for 15 hours XD

[daring crypt]

i guess ll need it

[reef moon]

easy just filter out all loot

[dense fable]

buy it only when you reach W6 IMO

if you really like the game till you reach that, it's worth it, cause you will spend lots of fun time

[daring crypt]

okay ty. im excited to play now xd

[dense fable]

I bought Autoloot maybe in W4

cause I was confirmed that I'm gonna play this game a lot

and i like comfortable playstyle, that's why I spent 100$ XD

[strange prism]

holy crystals

[hexed cairn]

honestly playing without auto loot to farm DK

[true hamlet]

[dense fable]

lots of "boring" part skipped with that/ made my gameplay more fun/comfortable

[hexed cairn]

Jiof suffering without autolot

for our sake

[true hamlet]

If you only have to check every 30 minutes, you're still in the tutorial

[daring crypt]

fair enough all the packs are such good QOL investments

[dense fable]

idk how does F2P works I just assumed

[true hamlet]

Just don't play the game hehe, then no loot on the ground

[hexed cairn]

jiof is playing the candy game

since he just rift 99% of the time

[daring crypt]

amorok pendant needed?

[hexed cairn]

yes

if you enjoy drop rate.

[daring crypt]

i love it

[dense fable]

this is how loot drops in late game, that's why Autoloot is cool stuff

[reef moon]

and dmg

[hexed cairn]

n0ot fitlering dice obol is wild.

[dense fable]

I am here for that

[daring crypt]

holyyyy

[true hamlet]

Lab since mid sept

[dense fable]

gonna make a full DR for everyone

[hexed cairn]

[dense fable]

yes, especially pets
things like : in Alchemy all big bubbles are always active
you can acces storage from anywhere in the world
All the Gods ( W5 stuff ) are always active and you don't have to switch them every time you do other stuff with a char

instead of micro managing everything very precisely, everything works fine by itself I love it

[hexed cairn]

early game players have the most fun

[dense fable]

In my opinion in this game money spent really gives worth, QOL, fun progress \ compared to other games

[reef moon]

4k salt to go

[dense fable]

Early game is really fun
mid game was boring ahh for me, I even skipped 1 month of playing

Now I stepped into late game ( just at the start of it ) and it seems really fun

[hexed cairn]

endgame is a chore

and then super endgame is just addicts minmaxing

[dense fable]

ye, on AutoReview I am W6 late, so I consider myself beginning of late game XD

[hexed cairn]

accoprding to AR

im early w7, but we all know its a lie

[sleek pollen]

No more Monarch of DR

[dense fable]

I mean, probably you and me too will push and progress easily in W7
so it's ture

[hexed cairn]

i don';t think 9.2k statue and 1.1m bubble makes me early w7

[gray frigate]

Ive been trying the frost worship totem and im not getting any rewards? what level do i need to start earning rewards? and are there any tips on how to get there because its tough as hell

[reef moon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#gid=2076921261

[hexed cairn]

i just don't do achievementy tabs.

dad! 3 rocks gave me 1k cake

[gray frigate]

thx

[hexed cairn]

i can definetely push w7 in probably a week @dense fable maybe even faster .

if it releases

[dense fable]

ye, same
so the endgamer I see, seems a bit overreactions XD

[hexed cairn]

well yeah. if you can get to emperor, you're endgame according to lava

[dense fable]

like the dmg going that far

[hexed cairn]

that's my damage

[dense fable]

[dense fable]

ye, I think that is ready for W8 XD

[clear token]

why you dont level bottom skills? its really strange

[hexed cairn]

but to us, your dmg is probably just early game

then again, as long as you hit end w6, you're endgame

since endgame is just doing the tedious shit that we all don't like to do

[dense fable]

ye, I am pretty sure I will blast W7, so I am Late game
( endgame = preparing for WW3 IMO )

I mean, if I play more I will get there too, I am playing for 6 months

[hexed cairn]

1 year

[dense fable]

yeah with 2x my time, I will surely get there

[hexed cairn]

eventually

just hope you are doing your crops

and hole since that's just basically it

[dense fable]

let me hop on him

ye, Holy is kinda maxed, just pushing the limits now

[hexed cairn]

100k bravery?

should do that if you haven't

[dense fable]

I mean, not that far XDD
but working on it

[hexed cairn]

as long as you can hit bravery multi, that's the key

[dense fable]

ye, this is bravery for me yet ( they are working on afk )

[hexed cairn]

should throw everyone into bravery then

[dense fable]

and farming ( 140 crops unlocked )

[hexed cairn]

damn your crop is messy

[dense fable]

I haven't reached 24k with Justice and Wisdom, shall I push Bravery first?

[hexed cairn]

24k justice > 24k bravery > 10k wisdom fk wisdom tbh. > 100k bravery > 1m bravery

[dense fable]

oh okay, I will stop Wisom then and put in Justice to max

[hexed cairn]

right now your priority is basically trying to minmax

the shortest amount of time for maximium gain

like for crops, getting to 200 is really easy now with DB

WW to mastery 4 sneaking too

[dense fable]

oh this gives 45QQ wow

[hexed cairn]

and endless 200+

[dense fable]

I guess I should spam Magic beans trading?

[hexed cairn]

yes\

[hexed cairn]

super gmo max first.

[dense fable]

okay, let's see how much I trade

[hexed cairn]

then do a split between evo/speed/og with 4/1/1

remember to do this

[dense fable]

XDDDD

yes as you can see I am not endgamer mentality, i am just vibing XD

[strange prism]

you can check without trading it

big trade tho

[dense fable]

2 million for my 300 cost upgrades, lestgo

and now, I should plant all of the seeds types ones, to get all plants some ?

[hexed cairn]

you should do this before reset

6/5/4
1(lock)/2/3

rinse and repeat for each seed

[dense fable]

got it
but what about the upgrades ? this is not working now cause I got no plants, shall I spam the basic seed fast to get some plants?

[hexed cairn]

put 1 poinmt first

max Super gmo.

then speed first, then evo gmo,

you want to hit the sub 1sec timer for all your crop

[dense fable]

[hexed cairn]

also production boostr only works until it hit that 100k threshold, otherwise its waste points

eventually you want to hit all of these sub 1sec. the more the beter for OG chance

[dense fable]

got it, will work on that, ty

you seem kind compared to other big PP endgamers here

they just tell me I'm smol

[hexed cairn]

idk about other endgamers.

i only know that

even if they have played a long time

they have the advantage of alot of fomo stuff + lots of proc on NSLB and other things that are time gated, such as refinery.

which I can't do anything about it since i only been playing a year

also. if they are truly endgamers, they would have max capacity golden cakes.

imo

[dense fable]

ye, I mean
even if I am not candy clicking, but just daily ribbons+Stamps+Alchemy atoms+nblb

even a toddler can have big PP in 2-3 years of playing like this

[hexed cairn]

but what do i now,. i know many endgamers neglect certain aspect of the game

like shiny pets

and their shrines

[dense fable]

I like those, I am pushing them to lvl 13-14 now ( shiny pets )

[hexed cairn]

i max out all 20

[dense fable]

[hexed cairn]

well at least the important ones. im just doing the others slowly

maybe like 12 pet left

[heady bane]

With the Capital P quest to kill moving enemies. Do yall think it's better to gamble that I naturally get 10k with spamming kills on ES or actively trying to hit moving ones

from my experience trying the latter, they'd just stop moving mid attack animation and it was so inconsistent anyways

[hexed cairn]

capital p?

cattleprod?

[heady bane]

w4 piggy

[hexed cairn]

oooooh

[heady bane]

"party game" quests

[hexed cairn]

nah, just manually normal att with your fist

and click. makes it easier.

[heady bane]

[hexed cairn]

[heady bane]

I'll gamble with ES till I get the points to 5-6k then just swap to my skilling loadout and punch them

[near lava]

What's your evo at

[dusk prairie]

Why no work? I have multiple over 100m

[near lava]

Every 10m over

[dusk prairie]

So I have it set to 100m, and have a couple items with over 200m

[hexed cairn]

set to 1b

[near lava]

When you reload the map it'll convert to atoms

[dusk prairie]

Works. Thanks

[near lava]

I have a weeeee bit more than you I hope I can get atleast 225 before w7

[hexed cairn]

eventually i have to brute force\

[near lava]

I brute forced my last one at 3e42

I wait till ~0.4% on the crop second to last where I'm at

[strange prism]

its something like E150 even at brutal force

[rapid agate]

To unlock Journeyman, do I need to farm all the items on the beginner or can I just pull from my stash?

[rich hearth]

How do people get thousands of refinery red salt rank? I can only go up about 1 rank every day or other day.

[reef moon]

it gets kinda easyer later on in the game when you get all refinery speed ups

[rich hearth]

I'm almost at endgame at 29k tome all players are around 650 lvl so I guess I need to make a list of all the refinery boost

[true dew]

Say I’m a casual and I check my Idleon daily how should I setup my traps for the best overall gains between exp shinys and critters for refining and crafting

[rich hearth]

Which tool is this so I can find mine

[reef moon]

idleon toolbox

[fast ridge]

It takes me 3 hours for a rank. And I am very behind. If it's taking 2 days at your point in the game. Something's wrong, lab disconnected?

[reef moon]

what rank are you gray?

for redsalt that is

[fast ridge]

500 ish

[rich hearth]

So this is mine

[strange prism]

not bad

[fast ridge]

I lied. Rank 405

[reef moon]

i do love me that elephtant god

[strange prism]

lucky, mine hits refinery once a week

[reef moon]

mine just hit on 3 char for 1h each :d out of 10

[rich hearth]

I am at rank 63

[fast ridge]

It's probably just a matter of putting time into clicking

[rich hearth]

Okay so the only big difference between us is time and stamp which is only additive so shouldn't make a huge difference

[fast ridge]

They wouldn't be negligible, what's your cycle time?

[rich hearth]

30s

I do 120 cycles per hour currently

[fast ridge]

I made it to this point with about that, I brought it down from 28 to 24 just recently. So nothing wrong with your cycle time

[rich hearth]

Every cycle produces 213 so for an hour 25.6k

[strange prism]

CON MASTERY, MORE CONSTRUCTION

[rich hearth]

Slowly but surely I'll get there hopefully by my year mark

Appreciate everyone for helping me compare

[fresh parrot]

wow....

[minor scroll]

hi @fresh parrot

[fresh parrot]

@minor scroll hiii

[fallen ingot]

can the library not go past book max 299?

[minor scroll]

!maxtalents

[candid scarab]

Struggling to find out how to raise the level of your talent points to hit that next threshold? Trickzbunny and jiof made this fancy sheet that will let you know what you're missing and how to get it!

[fallen ingot]

weird, i just got the max 10 atoms from ||gaming|| and upgraded and the max did not change

[minor scroll]

check gshard set

[fallen ingot]

set bounus increases winner bonus

[robust marsh]

Come here cat I am done with my work now

[compact pagoda]

are u catcalling me rn

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-dumb-cat-blank-stare-what-gif-14061962810839750521

[compact pagoda]

nuh uh nit like this bear

[white lintel]

holy peak

[high turret]

How do i unlock the boss part of multikill thing? Like the page BEFORE w1 kills

[eternal tapir]

kill boss

[minor scroll]

from jade empo

[sharp elbow]

what lvl should I get to before starting to use royal sampler?

[ember wing]

You should put royal sampler on all your characters the moment you unlock it

[hollow blade]

is it worth it to get guys?

[ember wing]

If you arent super in need of gems atm yea go for it

the first superbit you unlock in gaming gives you 1.03x bit gain per achievement completed so atleast you get something out of it

[reef moon]

i completly forgot about that prayer just maxed it cant wait to see how much higher my prints will be on copper especialy as i gain a decent ammount of mining eff aswell

[ember wing]

[reef moon]

without afk gain items and my main armor set this is the current incr

[west pilot]

When 1Q

[reef moon]

a slight increase

[ember wing]

huge

[daring kiln]

I just got soda is it worth it to put a ribbon on it

[reef moon]

oh wait nvm i fucked up i forgot my stat % food

[west pilot]

Meh

You can put a really low one if you want

[daring kiln]

Ok so a tier 3 at best than. Got it

[west pilot]

Yeah i mean, ribbon prio just falls into gfood effect

The other ones are kinda all around the place depending on what you going for

[reef moon]

not a bad vallue

[west pilot]

I should resample but w7 close

[reef moon]

i mostly resampled to get as much atoms as i can for upgrades

[west pilot]

Yeah but with this rates i'm lazy to do it

[reef moon]

now to do same for wood

[west pilot]

With flies

[reef moon]

hmmmm for mob drop samples afk gains or pure droprate items?

[tranquil rover]

what do shiny pets do exactly?

[surreal whale]

I'm dancing for the Space Party Achievement on Pizza server 1 if anyone can help me?

[ember wing]

Give specific bonuses they are all listed here https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Breeding#Unlockable_Pets

[ember wing]

afk gain + multikill cards iirc

[reef moon]

a naked classles beginer is dancing with ya

[surreal whale]

Do we have to party up? Or does it give credit without being in one?

[reef moon]

ok thx gotta set that up aswell to get some thingy

[reef moon]

no party needed

[surreal whale]

Thank you!

[reef moon]

now im afk for 20 min nature calls

[reef moon]

did ya get it?

[surreal whale]

Yes I did! Thank you and everyone else! Really appreciate y'all ❤️

[reef moon]

back to the lab jail i go

dam my bubbo only has 500K kills/h on ceramic on afk

[candid creek]

Yes

[robust marsh]

Yes

[honest cradle]

well almost got penguins map to max dr I can hit atm

Then I get back to statue grind

[west pilot]

how much

[wintry lily]

Are build speed Obols worth keeping?

[manic zealot]

Because I'm dumb, can someone confirm this is what it means?

[west pilot]

bubo on far right

everything on his left get's exp boost

(mainframe ofc)

[manic zealot]

I figured it was that straight forward. Thanks 🤣

[humble robin]

In IT is it possible to see which character hasn't reached the star constellation?

[zenith hare]

Wdym by that? As in for if they've killed enough mobs to even get there?

Or is it for who has and who hasn't done the challenge

If it's the latter, yes afaia. In the star signs menu bit

The former I've no idea

[manic zealot]

When you have a set now as passive with smithy, you can't stack it, right? Like if I have copper set with smithy and equip copper set, do I then get even more mining/choppin efficiency?

[zenith hare]

Correct

All it does is keep the bonus perma active

[manic zealot]

Wait, correct to which statement, does or doesn't stack?

[zenith hare]

:3

(the first one)

[manic zealot]

Ah, nice. Thanks 🙂

[spring smelt]

need help :p

[quiet crane]

#party-finder-👪 or try alone, thats what i did

[spring smelt]

can beat first and second boss only, the third one thick asf

[quiet crane]

i might help when i get home but im not yet

like 1.5ish hours

@mossy anvil help a fella out

[mossy anvil]

[minor scroll]

good afternoon nejo

[quiet crane]

cmon dud

mornin w6er

[minor scroll]

hi domeb

[quiet crane]

sup dud

[mossy anvil]

Hemlo fren

[quiet crane]

help that fella out broski

@minor scroll show arm stickman

[mossy anvil]

why

[spring smelt]

T-T

[minor scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/tumbs-down-big-arm-rick-and-morty-arm-ripped-arm-gif-16749600

[quiet crane]

):

[quiet crane]

no arms nub

[minor scroll]

give riptide

[quiet crane]

ion have it

give samurai..

[minor scroll]

I saw free riptide yesterday

[quiet crane]

give me sam

[fresh parrot]

so you hate me got it

[minor scroll]

o.o

[fresh parrot]

hiiii asheleyyy

[minor scroll]

hii

storm so online school today

[fresh parrot]

woaaa

there's rain here, very mild

[minor scroll]

search matmo

[fresh parrot]

I like it, last night had heavy rain which helped the pollution settle down alot

[fresh parrot]

huh, why are u doxxing urself

[minor scroll]

its the storm

[fresh parrot]

ogey

dannng

[fresh parrot]

goodbluck ashley

[mossy anvil]

riders on the storm

[minor scroll]

[spice karma]

Pushing W4 / w \

[minor scroll]

go on top of rope there is a surprise

[spice karma]

Oh dayum, I just noticed it now that you mentioned it

Hmmmm

[quiet crane]

whales

[minor scroll]

holy whale

🐳

[quiet crane]

cute

[mossy anvil]

[minor scroll]

I need mincecrat

[mossy anvil]

type stuck w6

[quiet crane]

minecraft

[brisk sage]

Hey , any suggestion to replace the frog or maybe all of them using my current pet unlock rn?

Stuck wave 68-70

[mossy anvil]

get sand giant in w2

and unlock bloque in w3

[zenith hare]

Use carrot and wode board instead of boar and frog

Other then that to get 6th slot unlock you'll need up to snelbie and also sir stache in w3

[zenith hare]

Dead chat

[mossy anvil]

[buoyant oriole]

Do I have to have talent passives selected all the time for construction on squire to benefit from them on cog board?

[compact pagoda]

what do u need

why msg at 1 am

let me sleep man

[robust marsh]

i didnt know you were sleeping

[compact pagoda]

u didn't ask

[robust marsh]

you didnt reply back

[compact pagoda]

i was sleeping man

how would i reply

[robust marsh]

ok

[cosmic cairn]

maybe you left your notifications turned on 🤷‍♂️

[compact pagoda]

well i opened disc just now so

[cosmic cairn]

all good then! 👍

[compact pagoda]

aren't u a w6 lurker

why here

[cosmic cairn]

not aware of the gatekeeping rules, enlighten me

[compact pagoda]

pay tax

[cosmic cairn]

also, please post your bedtimes

[compact pagoda]

cats don't have bedtimes

they slepp when eepy

[zenith hare]

They do

It's called 24/7

[robust marsh]

i agree with that my cat( @compact pagoda ) is always busy sleeping

[rotund sun]

sm know what accuracy i need to be for all W4 to be 100%

[pine pond]

Is Diamond Chef multiplicative with itself or additive [i.e. if I have two is it 1.1² or 2(1.1)]

[mossy anvil]

last mob is 16.5k

[minor scroll]

1.1^N

[pine pond]

I'll stop neglecting that then

[robust marsh]

@compact pagoda

[compact pagoda]

what next

[compact pagoda]

how many onyx

[robust marsh]

everything i can

[robust marsh]

7

[compact pagoda]

go start onyx farm

[near lagoon]

i have question, why i cant use a candy or book, it said hold down but it doesnt

[compact pagoda]

help him

[robust marsh]

ok

[compact pagoda]

tell him why
im traveling rn

[robust marsh]

show me where you are trying to use candy and which book you are trying to use'

[minor scroll]

congrats

now lv 300 and ender

[robust marsh]

thanks

[robust marsh]

i aint doing it soon

and ender is just luck

[compact pagoda]

he meant as in next In sailing

[minor scroll]

why not

[compact pagoda]

farm ur big p bubble

[robust marsh]

bored of sailing

[compact pagoda]

[robust marsh]

ok

[near lagoon]

afk candy, it said hold down to use, but nothing happened

[robust marsh]

where are you at right now

it wont work in a town

or doungen

[near lagoon]

I'm next to the shop

[compact pagoda]

looks like a town

[robust marsh]

in a town you say

[compact pagoda]

he doesn't know smh

[robust marsh]

candy only work at enemy map or skilling places like tree or ore

not in town

[near lagoon]

ahhhhh it work tysm

[hot goblet]

im getting close to my 8th character, but beyond 2 of each main class plus a journeyman, what’s recommended for remaining chars?

[compact pagoda]

for 8th u can go for a 2nd dk

helps a lot on construction

[hot goblet]

dk is pretty good for farming too right?

[compact pagoda]

seems about right

jus need a lil setup and u good

[hot goblet]

alright thank youuu

[near lagoon]

Is there any other way to use it besides holding it?

[robust marsh]

nope need to hold it each time for every time you wanna use it

and it only use 1 per hold

[dusky token]

Is journeyman rlly needed of a class?

Im tryna make him my 5th char

[robust marsh]

its secret class and its good in many ways especially its elite class vman

also get all other classes before journeyman

jman is not preffered early

[dusky token]

Well im a w5 player almost going to w6

So it aint a big problem ig

[robust marsh]

only 5 charecters yet

[dusky token]

It aint 5 im js dumb

Its 7

7th is going to be my jman

[robust marsh]

ok go for it

vman has very good account wide bonuses

[rotund sun]

can sm help im in W4 and like wanna push it with my dk and dont know where to put my pts on talents like the best

[dusky token]

Yea he is crazy

[buoyant oriole]

How does Squire work for construction? Do i have to have that cons bonus talent set selected all the time to get bonuses or can u "snap shot" it for the board?

[robust marsh]

would preffer the boomarang and the knight telents

[robust marsh]

he has a telent that increses cons build rate

[buoyant oriole]

Yeah i know but do i have to have that talent page activated all the time to benefit from it or i can use my other talent page to farm?

[robust marsh]

?

[buoyant oriole]

Presets

[robust marsh]

you need it in the preset to make it work

[hot goblet]

didn’t samgazer tell you in general where to put the points

[dusky token]

How do we get recipe for gold peanut

[honest cradle]

1.122

[minor scroll]

journeyman questline

[west pilot]

Isn't Max without upgrade like 1.2?

[whole niche]

How to get those sailing trasure pls ?

[minor scroll]

?wiki Sailing

[cursive walrus]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Sailing

[obsidian coyote]

What's the optimal charcter creation 3 mage 3 Archer 3 Warrior and 1 void walker ? If yes what classes should i get on all of them ?

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[obsidian coyote]

ok got it

[hollow light]

@professionalbaghaternebby i have 1 first tab fighting 2 tab skilling

[real yarrow]

i need help i cant unlock the next slot in the combustion becuase the tutorial is block it how can i hide the tutorial?

[fair hare]

I just searched for that, and someone said "Get enough of the first salt to trade for the 2nd salt"

[real yarrow]

the slot is blocked by the tutorial

[fair hare]

You can't make the first salt?

[real yarrow]

i can make the first one

but the tutorial is blocking the second one

[fair hare]

Did you make enough red salt?

[real yarrow]

i have 131

[fair hare]

Ohhh, do you have enough supplies? (I'm looking at the Wiki now.)

"At rank 1, the refinery uses 10 Spore Caps and 5 Copper Ore every 15 minutes. You need at least 960 Spore Caps and 480 Copper Ore in your storage chest."

[real yarrow]

i wish i could send a picture because the slot is just covered up

[fair hare]

Do you have enough supplies?

[candid creek]

Of course

[fair hare]

You'll be able to send a picture after talking for a bit here. :)

[fresh parrot]

block me then

[real yarrow]

i have 30k copper ore and 1.4k spore caps

[candid creek]

No

[zenith hare]

!image

[candid scarab]

Why can't I send images?

For moderation purposes, images are not able to be sent until you reach the Copper Bar - Lv.1 (Lv.3 for #1073780959087964210 ). To level up in the discord, just hang out and talk for a bit. Every minute, you will get xp as long as you sent a message. Spamming will not level you up faster, so please don't do it. Try !rank in #bot-commands to see what level you are.

[zenith hare]

*per hour. the 960/480 should be the goal in printer

[real yarrow]

what does that mean?

[zenith hare]

you spend 960 caps and 480 copper ore every hour on red salts

[fair hare]

I'm just copying what it says in the Wiki. lol.

[rotund sun]

sm know why my active char doesnt use his abilitys

[zenith hare]

which means you need to get 960 caps and 480 copper in the printer to be net neutral in terms of materials

[zenith hare]

do you have the auto use attacks on in settings?

[real yarrow]

i only get 22 spore caps per hour

[zenith hare]

otherwise its cause of the basic attack talents (ones that you gain an extra thing for ur basic attack)

they halt all ability usage until its used

[rotund sun]

oh yeah it went off idk why thanks

[fair hare]

What does the Tutorial thing that is blocking you say?

[real yarrow]

it shows how the combustionsystem works

[rotund sun]

what armor should i use to push W4

for dk

[fair hare]

You do have the printer unlocked, though? So you're through that part Hoggendaz's quest (or whatever his name is)?

[real yarrow]

yes i have the printer

[fair hare]

Haha, now I wish you could send pictures. Shouldn't be long at this point. :)

[real yarrow]

yeah its so simple to show but difficult to explain

[fair hare]

Haha, yeah. I know I have seen this mentioned before, just trying to search the right way to find it.

[real yarrow]

i was told to let the power max out before collecting it since i always had it on autorefine

[fair hare]

You want autorefine OFF.

Then wait until it fills up, then push the button to level it.

[real yarrow]

im gonna try that next

since i didnt know you had to wait to fill it up

[rotund sun]

?

[fair hare]

Yep yep. Just let it get full. That opens the second salt.

[real yarrow]

ok thank you very much

[fair hare]

np

Should I be moving my shrines around? I just stuck 'em in W4 town after I got that lab node, so they've been there for six weeks or something. lol. I was thinking they might do better in W2 for gene farming? (I didn't want to lose the leveling stuff, but in retrospect, I think I've made a mistake.)

[minor scroll]

no

[fair hare]

So just leave 'em in W4? Thanks!

[minor scroll]

when u get the jade empo bonus just put in the world they are afk on

moving shrines cost u alot of afk hours

[fair hare]

Ahh. I'm in W4, though my guys (except for the beginners I built for the lab) have already been through those maps. (I spend most of my time in W1/2 gene farming. :/) Do the shrines work on rift?

[minor scroll]

in every mpa of that world yea

gene farming is not worth mmoving shrines

[fair hare]

OK, guess it's worth it keeping them in W4, then. (I'm not leaving W4 until I get to monolith in pets, among other things, hence gene farming.)

[fair hare]

My idleontoolbox page is using refinery cycle times without the lab boost. I tried doing a cloud save, I updated my profile, I refreshed, nothing seems to help. (Used to work. lol.) Is there a better way to "reset" it?

[compact pagoda]

psst

[fossil kayak]

Adust your characters position in the lab, IT sometimes bugs out if you're right on the edge of the nodes range.

[compact pagoda]

minichef good enough for lvl farming or more to sammys

[fair hare]

The game itself is using the correct numbers. I'll try to jiggle 'em, though. lol.

[dense fable]

now that I am farming full DR set for everyone
it really shocked me, that Dice obols come super easy compared to pop obols

[minor scroll]

because choco chip

[fair hare]

Eh, no luck. I even added an unnecessary player there, so there was absolutely no question. Guess I'll go back to calculating in manually, and hope it fixes itself eventually. lol.

[dense fable]

ah ye

[prisma plover]

Hi a question, do we have a TD guide in this discord (Worshipping)

[reef moon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#gid=2076921261

[prisma plover]

thx tangji

[strange prism]

do this when youre at the wave 120-200 range

[balmy crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1236455214668583067/1395950199712514270/bugcat-nods-edit.gif

[wet ravine]

at the same wave and cost what tower defense gives more xp?

[balmy crystal]

w4

[fresh parrot]

is that a days ribbons

[strange prism]

yea

[fresh parrot]

whales man..

[wet ravine]

thx :3

[strange prism]

its 1 pack

the big help is grimoire + talent for higher ribbon potential, DBs getting the WW treatment (sitting in skilling FOREVER)

[mint rivet]

Greetings everyone

👋🏿

[mint rivet]

the big help is pack

[strange prism]

pack just gives + ribbons, if you dont buff the tier potential its just t1-3s

[mint rivet]

oh and i think an event purchase too

[balmy crystal]

''ribbon connoisseur''

[strange prism]

indeedo

cant remember if pack gave 4 or 5

[balmy crystal]

something i missed in the 4th anniversary by one event point

i have the name engraved in my brain cuz of how painful it was missing it

[strange prism]

looks like 5

[mint rivet]

you forgot the capitals

[mint rivet]

whaled so much you forgot

[minor scroll]

!talents

[candid scarab]

Having issues understanding how to best use your talents? This guide should be able to break things down. Use the tabs at the top to navigate to whichever class you're currently struggling with and it should become much less overwhelming.

[strange prism]

there isnt really one tbh

[dense fable]

🏗️

[strange prism]

[mint rivet]

why forward slash

[minor scroll]

why hand after warrior skills tho

[strange prism]

cause its not a constantly used skill

[uneven obsidian]

i would still have put that as the frist skill to make sure its always on

[strange prism]

it is always on

[mint rivet]

you should make sure

[hollow scaffold]

how does the skull score in the rift work? what makes the enemies get skulls

[minor scroll]

killing other enemies

[strange prism]

wdym I should make sure, I set it up that way cause it works

[mint rivet]

it can always work better

[low arrow]

Put hand on the 3 page last slot

[minor scroll]

hi nejo the chat stalker

[clear token]

its actually works great and it wont work better

[reef moon]

when you kill an enemy with a skull it upgrades and transfers to an enemy thats close by if there isnt 1 it gets reset

[mint rivet]

i wasn't talking about the one smasheddookie talked about

another W NSLB

[minor scroll]

pinch

[strange prism]

idk what mine hit

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-gif-17291530843075000352

[ashen steppe]

shiii i got badurr

[mint rivet]

and W 150 bosses

[ashen steppe]

with a 1%

[mint rivet]

i should keep the W chain going by getting a bravery multi

[balmy crystal]

yes

[minor scroll]

WWWL

[balmy crystal]

fight 51 shall be the one

[mint rivet]

what will the L be for

ig wisdom since am doin that after

[strange prism]

why stop at 51

[minor scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/l-lawliet-death-note-gif-12909004162955472383

[balmy crystal]

an overwhelming greed will bring misfortune
be pleased with what you already have

[minor scroll]

-# more. more is good.

[reef moon]

still so low

[mint rivet]

i can skip all the way to round 47 (where bravery multi gains the possibility to appear onwards). That's good

[strange prism]

but up to 57 is easy : (

[balmy crystal]

i can only do until 54 , 55 too much for me

and yeah

[mint rivet]

i am not feeling risky this time

[reef moon]

is it worth waiting for bravery multi to from 1x to 2x if highest you can reach is like 16

[mint rivet]

opal wise, no

bonus wise, yes

[reef moon]

im after bonuses mostly

[mint rivet]

dw u will hate bravery soon enough anyways

[reef moon]

i already hate it

but its still better then justice

[strange prism]

Need to see 2x by tonight

[mint rivet]

stopping here lads, no multi but at least juicy mining

[balmy crystal]

already did bravery moments ago

[strange prism]

730m at least, just need 400m between the 8 swords

[mint rivet]

what?

[strange prism]

guess you gotta spend some wishes

[mint rivet]

what will that do

[strange prism]

you min damage is 730m with 8 swords, you only need 400m more between the 8 swords to clear that wave

[prisma plover]

omg i found this? is this any good?

i never saw it before

[mint rivet]

yeah , i just wasn't playing risky

[mint rivet]

doesn't this just add onto the total amount (for example 100k) instead of counting towards minigame cooldown

[strange prism]

needs more damage to get more chances at bravery multi

[balmy crystal]

pretty sure thats the worst thing to spend wishes on

[strange prism]

surely not, its bravery damage

[minor scroll]

i saw 5400 wishes getting 34k hour only

not worth

[mint rivet]

is this the item from the picnic quest

[white lintel]

tea

[minor scroll]

twa

[uneven obsidian]

i'll take w4-w6 resources bonus over wishing for monument time

[strange prism]

"only" greatly underestimate how much damage comes from hours

[mint rivet]

theank you

[minor scroll]

tru im hole neglector

[strange prism]

from 100 wishes

[strange prism]

whoops 104

[uneven obsidian]

seem really small gain

[balmy crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/blahaj-shonk-attack-camera-dive-shark-gif-14344361424253681658

[mint rivet]

this stacks so much slower its annoying me

[strange prism]

yes/no, if I spent 100 on any of my other wishes the gains would be

[white lintel]

hmmmmmmmmm

[mortal mountain]

24K hours easy

[mint rivet]

how many a day?

[balmy crystal]

save for w7 wishes aod

[white lintel]

50

[uneven obsidian]

maybe if it was affected by monument afk gain, but i still rather get the bonus to other skill specially with w7 around hte corner

[mint rivet]

damn i am only at 35 a day

[white lintel]

I could be higher ngl

[strange prism]

I always find this logic funny "Save for something that might not even be good"

its not like w7 will drop and I can never gain wishes again

[uneven obsidian]

and w7 wish will proably only come after lava does the next cavern expansion

[strange prism]

I still need things in w1-6 so id rather just spend as needed vs wait and hope the buffs helpful somehow

[mint rivet]

with full setup i can get a monument hour in under 25 seconds ( counting all chars)- 12hrs are less than 5 mins, and i think

2 wishes are more valuable than 5mins of offline

[strange prism]

depends on how many wishes you get a day

[white lintel]

w5 things is prob what ill mainly dump inot

[strange prism]

yea its pretty big for div

[white lintel]

loot value is the sleeper pick

[minor scroll]

is there a w6 things

[strange prism]

yes

[white lintel]

w6 majigers

[minor scroll]

crop evo?

[mint rivet]

even with 50-that would turn out to 250min worth (prob less if ur at that stage)

[strange prism]

its ~okay~

[white lintel]

yea but its not that good

[uneven obsidian]

that crop evo is additive iirc isnt it

[mint rivet]

idk but big number is good

[strange prism]

land ranks is under multi but doesnt work so who knows how these actually work

[white lintel]

should be and even then the scaling on crop evo chance means that its not that helpful compared to just doing daily trades